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and so delighted to have Hal Lindsey as my guest

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again today. I tell you very frankly, I could

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sit for hours talking with this man. I just love

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it. We have so much in common. I'd rather talk

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about the things of God. than to do anything

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else in the whole world. I'm delighted to have

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you as my guest. You're most interesting. We

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have so much in common. The greatest thing in

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the world, God's Word. And you're so scriptural.

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You know, sometimes I feel that I've stood alone

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so long, so many years on some of these things.

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And then when I find somebody like you, to whom

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God has given this wonderful interpretation,

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I think, my word, how does he know the same things

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that I know, you know? One thing is sure, Al,

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I'm going to stay with it and see this thing

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through to the end. And we're so near the end,

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we're going to see it through, believe me. We've

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been talking about the Book of the Bible prophecy

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and... Nations being lined up and the things

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that are happening. But God has also given a

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warning over and over again whenever the Word

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of God speaks of this hour in which we are living.

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The closing moments of this dispensation. This,

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the time of the end of the Gentiles. He warns

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us of this great deception. You know, this is

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why I've... written another book. I'm almost

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finished with it. What are you going to call

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it? Another crazy title. Satan is alive and well

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on planet Earth. And don't underestimate the

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power of Satan. Well, after starting to write

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this a year and a half ago, I certainly don't

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underestimate it anymore. I found out he really

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was alive and well. But you know, I have seen

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for some time a peculiar phenomenon taking place

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on the college campus. I've been speaking on

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campuses in Canada, the United States, and Mexico

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for the last 12 years. And up until about 1968,

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the academic community and the world at large

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was what you might call rationalistic. They didn't

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accept the possibility of extrasensory things,

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perception in this area. And then along around

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1968, there was a tremendous turnaround, almost

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without explanation. the students began to dabble

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in witchcraft and the occult. Even professors

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began to experiment with ESP, and the respectable

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name nowadays is parapsychology. And I understand

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that the inventor of the Xerox copier, Chester

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Carlson, donated millions of dollars to the parapsychology

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department at Duke University because, according

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to an account I read in a newspaper, Some time

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ago, he got his idea for the Xerox copier from

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a spirit that spoke to him while he was in his

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laboratory. And from the description, I don't

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believe it was the spirit of God. But we find

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today as we go around and we see the activity

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going on in the youth culture, a tremendous turning

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toward experimentation and the occult and witchcraft.

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And we find a tremendous explosion. of people

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turning to Satan worship. And this is just not

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the lunatic fringe. We find that there are people

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who are experimenting with how to know the future.

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A tremendous increase in astrology. A number

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of people who claim to be modern -day prophets.

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And indeed, they have predicted some things that

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have come true. And it's going to be a very popular

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theme. Oh, indeed. And few people are speaking

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out against it. That's right. Because few people

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understand. Well, I believe that this is all

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just another part of this whole prophetic picture.

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Because Jesus warned us in the 24th chapter of

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Matthew as he talked about a progression of general

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signs. And he said these would be like birth

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pangs. They would become more frequent and more

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intense, just as birth pangs. And he said there

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would be such things as wars and rumors of wars.

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Well, we've always had war. But the idea of the

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birth pang makes it understandable. They would

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become more frequent and more severe. He said

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there would be great earthquakes. I just read

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a scientific treatise on this which showed that

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earthquakes in the last decade have increased

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so phenomenally over all records of the past

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that it's without scientific explanation. Well,

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Jesus said this would just be one of the many

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signs. And then he said that there would be great

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famines. Now, you know, I've read so many articles

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about the population explosion and the danger

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of the air pollution and all of this. But I have

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read accounts where scientists say it's a mathematical

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certainty that the greatest famines in the history

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of the world will begin somewhere around 1975.

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In fact, they call it the age of famines. Well,

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all of these things are a buildup toward the

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end, toward the climactic events that will lead

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to the greatest event of all, of course, and

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that's the snatching out of all of those who

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believe in Jesus before the great tribulation

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of the seven years, and then Christ comes back

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to the earth to recycle the earth, as I like

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to say. He's given us all of these warnings.

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Really, any thinking man, any thinking woman,

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any human being with an open mind. Can't miss

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it. It's there. But you know, I have been increasingly

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apprehensive in my spirit for those who know

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Jesus Christ. Because Jesus warned in the 24th

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verse of the 24th chapter of Matthew. He said,

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For false messiahs and false prophets will arise

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and will show great signs and wonders so as to

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mislead, if possible, even the elect. Now, I

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believe that we're seeing real miracles happening

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today in the power of Satan. I believe that Bishop

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Pike, for instance, really made contact with

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a real spiritual being when he talks about contacting

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Paul Tillich and his son in seances. And Reverend

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Arthur Ford, who is now dead, he and Bishop Pike

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on a... nationwide television program actually

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made contact in a seance with spirits from beyond.

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There are many incidences among the youth culture

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with which I'm familiar, which can only be explained

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as the working of spiritual powers. I've seen

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among the Jesus people, those who seem to have

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gifts that the Holy Spirit gives, which I believe

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he gives today. They have had experiences which

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they thought was speaking in tongues. I believe

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there is a genuine, but I believe there's also

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a counterfeit. Always, wherever there is a genuine,

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I don't care what it is, wherever there's a genuine,

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there's always a counterfeit. Even when the great

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world leader comes, who in reality... will be

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Satan incarnate, a counterfeit of Jesus Christ.

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We must always remember that. I think that's

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the reason that the Bible warns us of great deception.

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And let's talk about these young people for just

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a second, Hal, because you deal with them. I

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deal with them. Just love them. I think they

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all know how crazy I am about them. I just think

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they're wonderful. And we recognize the fact

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that this is the last youth's generation before

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the rapture of the church. And God is pouring

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out of His Spirit upon them. Not only a few.

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Nobody's going to stop it because this is something

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of God. This is the movement of the Holy Spirit.

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This is God's mercy upon them. But they do not

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realize that there is also a counterfeit in the

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movement. Anything that denies the deity and

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divinity of Jesus Christ, anything that leaves

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out the blood of the Son of the Living God, because

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it's the blood that maketh an atonement for the

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soul, anything that disregards the supernatural

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resurrection of Jesus Christ is not Christian.

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That's true. It's just the opposite. It's the

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wrong spirit. If only we could teach these young

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people. Well, you know, I spoke to one of the

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leading psychics of our day. And this person

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has a phenomenal record of predictions. But the

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one thing that troubled me is that in the books

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that this person has written, the atonement is

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left out. That is, she has not clearly made...

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the issue that we must believe in the fact that

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Christ died for our sins to be saved in this

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book, and this made it suspect to me. But this

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person has made a number of remarkable predictions,

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but she's also missed on a number. And according

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to the Bible, if a prophet is a prophet of God,

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he cannot miss. In Deuteronomy chapter 18, Moses,

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who was the first great writing prophet, laid

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down the test of a true prophet of God. He said,

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when a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord,

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if the thing comes to pass, this is the word

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which the Lord has spoken. But if it does not

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come to pass, then in Israel they stone them

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to death. Well, there are many prophets today

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who make astounding predictions, but they are

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not 100 % accurate. And I've heard them say,

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well, some of the plans have been. And some are

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the revelations of God, but no prophet of God

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could ever hedge his bet like that. The Holy

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Spirit is always right. Always right. Always.

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The thing that I feel so strongly about today

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is that we're warned that in the last days, Satan

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would be permitted to come in with miracles.

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In the book of Thessalonians, it says that there

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would be a great period where Satan would be

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allowed to work signs and wonders. and uh all

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of this in the power of satan so every miracle

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that we see is not necessarily of god we have

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to come back to the book we have to carefully

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examine and i believe the acid test is what you

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said whether they believe in the deity of christ

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and whether they believe in the truth of the

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gospel and not just that christ died for our

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sins but it's faith in that alone Let's say.

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And in his supernatural resurrection. There's

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your final poop. Let's get back to Satan. Not

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that I enjoy talking about him because I never

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talk. I seldom, let's say it like that. I seldom

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speak of Satan because I guess I just dislike

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him so much. I don't want to give him that much

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glory. But we must face the fact that there is

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a Satan. There is a devil. And never underestimate

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his power. And there is only one power that is

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greater than Satan's power, and that's the power

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of God. When you realize the knowledge that he

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has, he knows Jesus, the Son of God, better than

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either one of us. He knows the Bible better than

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us. He knows the Bible. Hell, Lindsay, that is

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one thing that people must understand. Satan

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knows the Word of God. He knows the Bible. He

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can quote the Word of God. He can quote it better

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than either one of us. That's why I feel so very

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definitely that especially the young people,

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and those no matter what age, but they're young

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in Christ, need to be warned not to open themselves

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up to the spiritual world and turn off their

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minds, because we're warned to try the spirits

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to see if they be of God. And I believe that

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Satan, through his army of demons, can counterfeit

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our experiences with the Spirit. But we must

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test these by the Scripture. Is this experience

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leading me to Christ and a devotion to Him? Is

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it leading me to take the whole Word of God,

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or am I leaving some out? And I just believe

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this is the warning that we need today. I'm so

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glad you're writing this new book. I think it's

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so needed. What are you going to call it? Satan

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is alive and well on planet Earth. We both know

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he's very much alive. How do we get through?

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How do we get across to not only the young people,

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but older folk alike? Well, you know, I find

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that most of the young people today really believe

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that Satan's alive. I've talked to young people

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who were on LSD and had been on heroin, and they

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all testified that they had seen the devil on

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trips. And many of them had been so frightened

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that that's what started them to look for Christ,

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because they saw the reality of the devil. It's

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a strange phenomena. But the thing that I'm teaching

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now, and I have a school with some other men

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called the Jesus Christ Light and Power Company

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next to UCLA, and we're teaching them in depth

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in the scripture. But we're seeking to teach

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above all that though Satan is real and he's

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powerful, that Jesus Christ has all power in

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heaven and earth, and that every person who has

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believed in him is in union with him, and we

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share his authority. And in the name of Jesus,

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Satan has to bow. We can command that authority

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today. We can speak with authority, and we can

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conquer in that name. Genuine and the counterfeit

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sometimes are so close. There's such a thin line

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between the two. Satan will even acknowledge

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the deity of Jesus when he stood face to face

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with Jesus. He even acknowledged that he was

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the Son of God. Yes, he did. But it's another

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thing to accept him in the forgiveness of our

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sins and having the indwelling Christ within

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us. This warning needs to be gotten out. The

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Bible said, be not deceived, be not deceived.

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This great deception. and is creeping into our

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churches, not only in our youth movements, in

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our churches. It's really amazing how much deception

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there is abroad in the church today because in

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the old line churches, they deny the existence

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of Satan, and he loves that disguise. When people

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don't believe he exists, he can have a field

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day. I believe that we're entering a period when

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people have to admit and wake up. I was reading

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an article in the L .A. Times just last week

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where it says that the Church of England is now

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conducting courses in exorcism. And I'd like

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to quote. It says, The need for the restoration

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of the practice of exorcism to its proper place

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is becoming steadily more urgent and more evident,

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wrote the Most Reverend Robert Mortimer. In his

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report of a 10 -year unofficial study, the church

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knows little about the occult today, even though

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more Britons are turning toward black magic as

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their interest in traditional religion declines.

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And I thought that that was a very unusual departure

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for the Church of England because traditionally

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they, of late, just left Satan completely out

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of their thinking. Yes, I mean. I'm going to

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stick with the Word. And so am I. I'm going to

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stick. If it isn't in the Word, if it isn't in

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the Bible, I'm just not going to accept it. If

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ever there was a time when you needed to get

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back to the Word, the Bible, you'll never be

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led astray. I promise you. We promise you today.

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You'll never be led astray if you stay with the

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Word. This comes from the highest authority in

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heaven and earth. If it isn't in the Word, don't

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accept it. Don't add to. Don't take from. I'm

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staking my very life. I'm staking everything

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I have on the Word. His Word. These are exciting

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days. These are important days. These are trying

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days. These are days of sifting. Be sure, my

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friend, that you know Him, the very Son of the

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Living God. Be sure. very sure that his spirit

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bears witness with your spirit. He will never

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lead you astray.
