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I want to share a letter with you. I shall not

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give the minister's name. Neither will I tell

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you in what city he is the minister of the church.

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Because I'm sure that he would not mind. But

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these are the things that I feel is only fair

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to keeping... confidence. But I do want to share

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with you the contents of his letter. He holds

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the degree of DD, PSD, MSD. He's the minister

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of First Church of Divine Science. Dear Miss

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Kuhlman, today, September the 21st, marks just

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one week since Gladys and I were touched by the

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Holy Spirit when you gave the altar call for

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those who wished to be born again. No one can

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describe the ecstasy of God's power that came

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over us as we arose and listened to your sincere

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thanks to God for our complete surrender and

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dedication to Him for His tender mercies in forgiving

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us of our sins. thus bringing salvation to our

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souls. From that moment on, we both have continued

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to praise and thank Jesus over and over again

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for bringing us to a new spiritual understanding

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of his merciful love for all mankind, irrespective

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of race, color, or creed. For the first time

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in our lives, Our souls are now really and truly

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experiencing such a tremendous spiritual zeal

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and uplift. It actually vibrates our whole being

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from the topmost part of our heads to the very

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tips of our toes. Praise God, and like you always

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say, thanks a million to Jesus, our Lord. Today

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I'm writing a letter. to Dr. Erwin Gregg, the

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president and minister of the Divine Science

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Church and College in Denver. I do not want to

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upset him unnecessarily by discussing a subject

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that, from his standpoint, would be controversial.

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Therefore, because of his enduring love for us

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and because of his many kindnesses to both of

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us, I have simply decided to tell him the truth

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to prevent further controversy. I am telling

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him that we have been attending the Catherine

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Kuhlman services and that we have had the glorious

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experience of being born again and have felt

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the reality of the Holy Spirit and His tremendous

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power as it has touched our lives. This experience

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has changed our whole spiritual outlook and understanding.

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Therefore, we feel we can do a far greater service

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to God through Jesus Christ by concentrating

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our whole effort henceforth to the salvation

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of souls. In all fairness to divine science teachings,

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we feel we must sever Our connections with Divine

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Science Church were enclosing a photostat copy

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of the letter we sent to Dr. Gregg. Our future,

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of course, poses many questions as to how and

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where our efforts in the salvation of souls shall

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be. Only God has the answer. However, if and

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when you wish to discuss our future efforts in

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this venture, we shall be only... Too happy to

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have a heart -to -heart talk with you or anyone

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else who might direct. Letters of this nature

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are so very unsatisfactory and ponderous. We

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pray every day that you and your workers may

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be strengthened, renewed, prospered, kept in

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health in the name and through the power of Jesus

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Christ. We... Do give Jesus all the praise and

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thanks for these blessings. We have six more

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people who want to attend your miracle service,

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and perhaps there may be many more. We shall

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all be coming by plane, and we're all so eager

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we can hardly wait. And this minister of a church,

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of divine science. Science is full name. I have

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his full address. Ye must be born again. How

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often you've heard me say, not just once, but

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over and over again, that the healing of the

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physical is marvelous. Oh, Beloved, I too thrill

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when I see people receiving their physical healing.

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That's glorious. We thrill when we see legs that

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are loosened. When we get the verification of

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somebody who's been healed of cancer. Or the

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little baby who receives sight. Sure, that's

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thrilling. But we also know that even those who

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were healed through the ministry of Jesus had

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to die sometime. Every one of them. Sure, we

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thrilled to those miracles during the ministry

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of Jesus here on earth. But there had to come

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a time when they too had to face death. When

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the old heart took its last beat, regardless

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of how wonderful their physical healing might

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have been, we face the same thing today. Someone

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can be wonderfully healed of cancer, and yet,

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even as we're rejoicing with the healing of that

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sick body, we also face facts. that one will

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die a physical death. Perhaps never of cancer,

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but something else, because it is appointed unto

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every man to die. There is a miracle that's far

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greater than the healing of the physical. The

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greatest miracle in the world is that glorious

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spiritual miracle. That spiritual healing. There

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is no greater miracle than when a man's life

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is completely transformed by the power of God.

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When literally that one becomes a new creature

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in Christ Jesus. The things he once loved, he

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now despises. He hates the things of sin. The

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things that were related to the old nature. And

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the things he once hated. The things of God.

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Spiritual things. The word of God. that he once

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hated, now he loves and his entire being yearns

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and craves and desires the spiritual. Why? Because

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he has been born again. Here's a minister. A

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minister of the First Church of Divine Science.

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And he's pouring out his heart and saying, my

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wife and I have had this wonderful experience

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the last time when you were in the Shrine Auditorium

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in Los Angeles. Everything looks different to

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us. This experience has changed our whole spiritual

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outlook and understanding. But what does the

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scripture mean about being Born again. Let me

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read you that portion of the Word of God as found

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in the third chapter of John. And before I read

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it, let me remind you that it makes no difference

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whether you're Catholic or Protestant, whether

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you are a Jew, a Gentile, your race, your color,

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Your nationality has nothing to do. You are no

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exception. God knows no such thing as nationality

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or race or color. God is bigger than all of these

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things. If you are a part of humanity, if you

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have been born the first time, and that's one

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thing that we all have in common. Regardless

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of who we are. Regardless of our race. Regardless

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of our nationality. Regardless of our color.

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The one thing that we all have in common is that

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first birth. And we all come into the world the

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same way. Naked. But with... A nature that is

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contrary to the nature of God. Now I want to

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talk to you about that new birth experience.

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There was a man. He was a wealthy man. He was

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not just an ordinary man. In fact, he was a ruler

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of the Jews. And he became very curious regarding

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this experience. His name was Nicodemus. And

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he came to Jesus by night and said unto him,

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Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from

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God. For no man can do these miracles that...

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thou doest, except God be with him. Keep it perfectly

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honest. And that's the starting point. Every

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man has to begin at this point. Understand something.

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Jesus knows you better than you know yourself.

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He knows me better than... I know myself. And

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we must be dead honest when we come to him. You

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cannot hide one thing from him. And he laid his

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cards on the table. He said, Rabbi, we know that

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thou art a teacher come from God. For no man

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can do these miracles that thou doest except

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God be with him. His reasoning was logical. And

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sometimes I wonder how many days he spent reasoning

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with himself. And Jesus answered and said unto

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him, Verily, verily I say unto thee, except a

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man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom

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of God. Now that... The little word again has

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great meaning. It means immediately that there

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has been a first birth, a former birth, that

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birth that we all have in common, our first birth

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from our mother's womb. But Jesus said, except

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a man be born again, The second birth. He cannot

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see the kingdom of God. He makes no exception.

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He makes a very definite statement. He cannot

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see the kingdom of God. Regardless of influence,

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prestige, nationality, Influence? Color? Except

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a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom

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of God. And Nicodemus saith unto him, and here

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comes a very reasonable question, a sincere question.

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How can a man be born when he is... Can he enter

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the second time into his mother's womb and be

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born? Jesus answered, Verily, verily I say unto

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thee, except a man be born of water and of the

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Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

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That which is born of the flesh is flesh. all

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been born of the flesh. And that which is born

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of the spirit is spirit. That's that spiritual

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birth that I'm talking to you about. That's that

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spiritual birth. That which is born of the spirit

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is spirit. That is that new birth experience

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that this minister of divine science received

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the other Sunday in the shrine auditorium. Why

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all of this glorious ecstasy in this man's letter?

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Why? As he said, this has changed and revolutionized

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my whole life. This experience has changed our

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whole spiritual outlook and understanding. Why?

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Because up until this hour, he has had the mental

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knowledge of all these things. But in spite...

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of all of his degrees, he has never, up until

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the other day, had this glorious experience of

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having been born of the spirit. There it is.

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Marvel not that I said unto thee, ye must be

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born again. Oh, but somebody says how. The best

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I can tell you is to do just as this minister

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has done. Come sincerely and say, Dear Jesus,

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I want that experience more than anything else

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in the whole world. Come into my heart. It's

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not a mental experience. It's something in the

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heart. It's the most wonderful experience that

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can come into a man's life. More than that, the

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most important experience to any man.