Today, some more of those questions. Some of
you may feel that they're better than the heart
-to -heart talk. Well, I would say that there
were an awful lot of heart -to -heart talks all
wrapped up in every one of these questions. Oh,
I've just loved answering them. And I just hope
and pray that you will have learned much and
received much from the... answer that has been
given to these questions. 42 of them. This is
question number 30. What is your comment to Christians
who come to your meetings and go away without
having been healed? I have no comment whatsoever.
Because whether that one was healed or not, was
in the hands of God. At no time is it my responsibility.
I am not perfect wisdom. I am not perfect knowledge.
I have no healing virtue. I have never healed
anyone. I have no power to heal. The whole responsibility
rests in the hands of God and the individual.
And it's just like that. But of course I'm human,
and you'll never know how I hurt on the inside
of me when the service is over with. And I see
those who've come in wheelchairs being pushed
into the street again in the same wheelchairs
in which they came. You'll never know the ache
on the inside of me, the suffering that I feel,
but the answer I must leave with God. And one
of these days when I get home to glory, I'm going
to ask Him to give me the answer from His own
lips as to why everyone is not healed. But something
happened when I was in Kansas City. Uh... The
Kansas City Star sent a very marvelous reporter,
one of their best, to the services. I became
acquainted with her. A lovely reporter. She'd
been trained in New York City. And everyone knows
the strength of the Kansas City Star. But the
last night that I was... in the great services
in Kansas City. She came back in my dressing
room. She found me crying. And I just started
baring my soul to her, forgetting she was a reporter.
And I said, you know, people would think that
after a great miracle service like this, with
scores and scores having been healed, that I
would be the happiest person in the whole world
at a moment like this. I am grateful, as I have
seen the manifestation of God's power. But I
hurt and am grieved for those who were not healed.
And I wonder if perhaps I had known how better
to have cooperated with the Holy Spirit that
more might have been accomplished for God. She
saw me as a human being. She saw me weak. It
was about three weeks later when I received a
letter from this reporter, and she said, Catherine
Kuhlman, I'm not writing as a reporter working
for the Kansas City Star, but as someone who
had a friend in that last service. He was an
attorney dying of cancer. They brought him on
a stretcher. and about a week after you left
Kansas City, I went to his home, was greeted
at the front door by his wife, and she said,
you know, calling him by name, Tom died. But
she said I was so amazed when she asked me to
come in, and her face was so radiant. She said,
you know, that service in the auditorium that
night, was the greatest thing that happened to
Tom. It was the most wonderful thing that happened
to him. He was not healed. We took him back home
on the same stretcher on which he was carried.
But it was during that service that Tom prepared
for death. It was lying on that stretcher, when
the power of God was falling, that my husband
Tom accepted Christ in the forgiveness of his
sins. And when he died, death was so easy. It
was glorious to hear him thanking Jesus for the
forgiveness of his sins. And the reporter said
to me, you know, Catherine Kuhlman, remember,
don't weep after a service anymore. When you
think there should have been greater results
than the healing of sick bodies, always remember
our friend Tom. The greatest miracle that could
have happened to him was the salvation of his
soul. No, I do not understand why everyone is
not healed physically. But all can be healed
spiritually. And that's the greatest miracle
that any human being can know. Question number
31. Do you think that there is any correlation
between your ministry of healing and such phenomena
as ESP? I'll be very frank with you. I know absolutely
nothing about ESP. Perhaps I'm the most ignorant
person in the world today, especially in public
life, when it comes to the subject of ESP. I've
never read a book on ESP. I have never studied
it. I've always felt that I have had enough to
do to study the Bible, and I just lean completely
on the supernatural power of the Holy Spirit.
Question number 32. Is there healing in the atonement?
Did Christ die to relieve us of... Are physical
as well as spiritual infirmities? Do you keep
tabs on the ratio of physical and spiritual healings?
Can or should a believer have one without the
other? Now that, my friend, is a loaded question.
Because in this question, we have about six questions
all wrapped up in one. First of all, let me make
it very clear. that Jesus died for the whole
man, body, soul, and spirit. And man is a trinity,
even as God is a trinity. The Father, the Son,
the Holy Ghost. Man is a trinity, body, soul,
and spirit. And he would be an unjust God if
he permitted his Son to come and die for just
a part of man. When Jesus cried on the cross,
it is finished, the price was paid through the
atonement for the whole man, every part of man,
for the physical, for the spiritual, for the
soul, the whole thing paid in full. Get back
to the first part of that question. Is there
healing in the atonement? Did Christ die to relieve
us of our physical as well as spiritual infirmities?
Let's go back to the first Passover as recorded
in the 12th chapter of Exodus. Begin with the
third verse. Speak ye unto all the congregation
of Israel, saying, In the tenth day of this month,
They shall take to them every man a lamb according
to the house of their fathers, a lamb for an
house. And if the household paid too little for
the lamb, let him and his neighbor next unto
his house take it according to the number of
the souls. Every man according to his eating
shall make your count for the lamb. Your lamb
shall be without blemish a male of the first
year. Ye shall take it out from the sheep or
from the goats. And ye shall keep it up until
the fourteenth day of the same month. And the
whole assembly of the congregation of Israel
shall kill it in the evening. Now watch this,
the seventh verse. And they shall take of the
blood, strike it on the two side posts and on
the upper door posts of the houses, wherein they
shall eat it. And they shall eat the flesh. In
that night, roast with fire and unleavened bread,
and with bitter herbs they shall eat it. That
was the first Passover. The blood to be sprinkled
on the length of the doorpost of the house, but
the flesh of the lamb shall be eaten. We forget.
the true meaning of the flesh of the Lamb. There
are literally thousands and thousands of Christians
who partake of the Lord's Supper, the Communion.
All know regarding the wine. As you partake of
the wine, as you hold the little cup in your
hand, or as you drink the wine at the altar,
a symbol of the shed blood of Jesus Christ. It
is the blood that maketh an atonement for the
soul. But what about the bread? The partaking
of the bread every time the bread is served.
It should mean a beautiful miracle service. The
healing for the body, partaking of the bread
has nothing to do with the soul, the forgiveness
of sins. The whole man was included in the atonement.
That's the reason Isaiah in the 53rd chapter
cried, wounded for our transgressions. bruised
for our iniquities, and by His stripes we are
healed. Yes, there is healing in the atonement.
And Christ did die to give us healing not only
for the spiritual, but also for the physical
infirmities as well. Do you keep tabs on the
ratio of physical and spiritual healings? May
I answer this question by saying that over and
over again, those who are healed physically will
invariably say, Spiritual healing was even greater
than my physical healing. Regardless of how great
the physical healing may have been, invariably,
they will say, but what happened to me spiritually,
I have never been the same since. I do not believe
that anyone can receive a physical healing without
also receiving a spiritual healing. The two go
hand in hand. There is never a miracle service.
Never. But what sometimes right in the middle
of that miracle service, all bodies are being
healed, you'll find those who need salvation,
sinners, come walking down the aisle. weeping
and saying, I want to be born again, and yet
nothing has been said about salvation or repentance
or what we call an altar call. It's the moving
of the Holy Ghost. And wherever you find the
great moving and the great outpouring of the
Holy Spirit, you'll find the two going hand in
hand. The spiritual healing. which is the greatest
of all healings, the greatest of all miracles.
And then there'll also be the healing of the
physical. What is your concept of illness? That's
question number 33. Now let me see. How best
can I answer that? Well, maybe by telling you
of a little boy who had eaten too many green
apples. And little boys just love green apples.
There's so many little boys and green apples.
And this little boy just ate too many. And he
came to his mother just deathly sick. Oh, he
said, Mom. I'm so sick. And the mother said,
oh, honey, it's all in your mind. You just think
you're sick. And the kid looked up and he said,
but mama, I have inside information. I'm sick.
And when a little boy goes vomiting all over
the place, having eaten too many green apples,
I'm telling you something, it isn't just his
imagination. It isn't just a mental attitude.
That kid is sick. I know why the question was
asked. Because so very often, there are those
who like to say that healings are psychosomatic.
That is all in the mind. The healing of cancer
could not be psychosomatic. The lengthening of
a limb could not be psychosomatic. The giving
of sight to an eye could not possibly be psychosomatic.
Let's just stop trying to... Close our eyes to
the reality of the power of God. Let's accept
God for what He really is. Let's stop trying
to play games with God. Let's accept God and
His Word at face value. You may not need a miracle
today. But there may come a time when you will
need that miracle. Accept God's promises at face
value. Well, here comes question number 34. To
what extent is individual health related to social
or cosmic health? Does our social mindset have
much to do with the physical health of individuals?
Well, that too is a most important question.
All of these questions are vitally important
and they're right down to where we live. May
I say that the greatest enemy that a human being
can take into his life is fear? It's just like
that. If you are able to conquer that enemy of
fear, you have gone a long way to bringing health
to a physical body. Life is not built for negative
achievement. It's... built for positive contribution,
for outgoing love. And it's just like that. You
can never get rid of your own troubles unless
you take upon yourself the troubles of others.
When you find yourself oppressed by melancholy,
the best way is to go out and find something
kind to do to somebody else. For when you dig
a man out of trouble, the hole which is left
is the grave where you bury your own troubles,
your own sorrows. Go out each day and do something
that nobody but a Christian would do. And it
isn't long before you'll forget about your own
troubles. You'll forget about your own aches.
You'll forget about your own pains. where the
mind enters into it. I really believe that one
can talk themselves into being sick. A little
pain, you continue dwelling on the fact that
you're suffering. It's amazing how that pain
will increase. I can always remember Papa saying,
Something. It wasn't scientific. You won't find
it in the doctor's manual. But I'll tell you,
it's just good common sense. He used to say,
oh, just go out and work it off. And the best
medicine in the world is hard work. Instead of
running off and getting a prescription, we've
got pills for everything. We got pills for every
part of the body. Oh, we're pill to death these
days. We're capsule to death these days. Sometimes
I wish I could put faith in the capsule and send
it out to millions of people. I'll tell you what
to do. Instead of going and taking a pill for
this, a pep pill and a nerve pill and a tranquilizer
and another aspirin and another Anacin, why don't
you just start working it off? It's the best
medicine I know anything about. The right mental
attitude is glorious. Remember something. Don't
wait for some miracle to be performed on you
from without. Lifting you above your fears and
your doubts and your self -centeredness. You
help God from within by turning in outgoing love
to others. And miraculously, your fears, your
doubts, your self -centeredness will vanish.
The miracle starts from within. Not. from without.
Throw your will on the side of outgoing love
and all the healing resources of the universe
will be behind you. Try it. It's the best medicine
I know anything about.