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You and I are going to have one of the most practical

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heart -to -heart talks that we've had for a long

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time. Oh, somebody said good. We're going to

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have a heart -to -heart talk today. That's right.

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And I'm going to talk about something that I

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feel is vitally important to you because I tell

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you very frankly that there is never a week but

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when somebody asks me one question, That's what

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I'm going to talk about today. And you may be

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wondering about the answer to that same question.

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You may have thought, now sometime I'm going

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to ask Catherine Kuhlman this question. But the

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only reason that you haven't asked it is because

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you haven't gotten around to it. So I might just

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as well include... All of you, once and for all.

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Like a lady wrote recently, and she said, I want

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you to answer for me. Then I'll be satisfied

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once and for all. I hope you feel that way about

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it. All right, this is it. Now, no one in the

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whole world is more sold, and I say that very

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reverently, on the Holy Spirit than I am. No

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one believes more in the baptism with the Holy

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Spirit than I do. And I believe in the baptism

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of the Holy Spirit as a very definite experience.

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You've heard me say over and over again that

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one's conversion, the new birth experience, being

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born again is a definite experience. Definite.

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Just as... definite as your first birth. Just

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as definite as when you were born in the flesh.

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Your spiritual birth is just that definite. Now,

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when we come to that wonderful experience of

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being filled with the Spirit, the baptism of

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the Holy Spirit, it too is just as definite.

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It isn't a matter of growth. It is definite.

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And this is the question that I'm asked so often.

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Is it necessary to have the baptism of the Holy

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Spirit for the power to be raised in the rapture?

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In other words, you and I know that the next

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great world event will be the rapture of the

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church, the great catching up, when this glorious

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body of Christ will be taken up. Is it necessary

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to be filled with the Spirit, to have the baptism

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with the Holy Spirit, to be taken? Let me rephrase

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it. Only those who have been filled with the

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Holy Spirit, only those who have received the

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baptism of the Holy Spirit, be taken up at the

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time of the rapture. I see somebody just taking

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her hands out of the dishwater right now and

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saying, I want to hear that. First of all, let's

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see what the Word of God says regarding the Holy

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Spirit. I like what Jesus says. Oh, it's something

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that's so personal. It's just right from his

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own lips. And he's talking in the 16th chapter

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of John. And he's telling them about the Holy

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Spirit, the work of the Holy Spirit. And he says,

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nevertheless, I tell you the truth. Don't you

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like that? In other words, I'll never lie to

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you. I tell you the truth. It is expedient for

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you that I go away. For if I go not the way,

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the Comforter, who is the Holy Spirit, will not

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come unto you. But if I depart, I will send him

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unto you. And when he is come, now he begins

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talking about the ministry, the work of the Holy

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Spirit. When he has come, he will reprove the

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world of sin and of righteousness and of judgment.

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Of sin because they believe not on me. Of righteousness

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because I go to my father and he see me no more.

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Of judgment because the prince of this world

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is judged. In other words, the Holy Spirit is

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the mighty convicting power in the world today.

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And he continues, I had yet many things to say

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unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit

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when he, the Spirit of Truth, is come, he will

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guide you into all truth. For he shall not speak

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of himself, but whatsoever he shall hear, that

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shall he speak, and he will show you things to

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come. He will glorify me. Always remember, the

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Holy Spirit will never glorify an individual.

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He'll never glorify any man, any woman. Always

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know that. The Holy Spirit will never glorify

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Catherine Kuhlman. The Holy Spirit will never

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glorify Dr. Jarman. The Holy Spirit will never

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glorify any preacher, any personal worker. Never.

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The Holy Spirit will only glorify one, and that's

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Jesus Christ. He shall glorify me, Jesus says.

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Never, as long as you live, forget those words.

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Now then, let's go a little deeper. I'm taking

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the words of Jesus regarding the Holy Spirit.

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Those last words before he went away. Just before

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he left, he is talking about the same person.

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And he's talking about this wonderful experience.

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Being filled with the same person, the Holy Spirit.

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the same person that he said would convict, the

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great revealer, the one who would glorify Jesus.

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And the last words before Jesus went away were

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concerning this same person. But ye shall receive

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power after that the Holy Ghost is come upon

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you. In other words, You're going to receive

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power after you've been filled with this wonderful

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person. But don't stop there. Don't stop there.

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Keep right on going. Because Jesus very distinctly

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tells why one is filled. the purpose for this

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experience. And ye shall be witnesses unto me

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both in Jerusalem and in all Judea and in Samaria

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and unto the uttermost part of the earth. He

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makes it very clear that this wonderful experience

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of being filled with the Spirit, this glorious

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experience of the baptism of the Holy Spirit,

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is given for one purpose. To witness its power

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for service. Never forget some of these things

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that I'm giving you in the spirit today. I think

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that we need more good old -fashioned teaching

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regarding the Word of God. truth about some of

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these things. I do not believe that there's any

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ignorance worse than spiritual ignorance. Zeal

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is wonderful, but be sure that you use your zeal

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in the right channel. You see, this wonderful

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experience is so new to so many. So many are

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receiving the light regarding this wonderful

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experience and this wonderful person of the Holy

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Spirit that it's almost like a child who has

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received a wonderful present. And they're so

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overwhelmed with it all, they don't know what

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to do with it. They're so overcome with it all.

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the thrill of it all, the excitement of it all.

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What we need to do is to hold steady, come back

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to the Word of God, and stay with His Word. There'll

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always be those who'll carry a thing a little

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too far beyond the real truth of the matter.

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Stay with the word. That's the reason this ministry

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has held low these many years without any fanaticism,

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without any sensationalism. It's had a good foundation.

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Lo, these 20 years. Sure. This ministry is open

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to anyone who wishes to investigate it. Sure.

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It hasn't been a fly -by -night thing because

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it wasn't built on sensationalism. It has had

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as its foundation the very word of God. We've

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stayed with the word. And when you stay with

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the word, not adding to it, not taking from it,

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go right down the middle of the road, you'll

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get results. Mm -hmm. The converts will stick.

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If it's just built on sensationalism. You go

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back six months later and say, where were the

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converts? Where were those who were born again?

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Where were those who came to the altar? But when

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it's built on the word of God and you stay with

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the word, you can go back 60 years later and

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you'll still find those converts, Dethi. continuing

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to grow in the Word. And that's the reason that

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I'm talking to you about this truth that is so

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vitally important. This wonderful experience

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of the baptism with the Holy Spirit is given

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the believer for power. Power. for service. Power

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to witness. And every believer should experience

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the baptism with the Holy Spirit. Because if

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ever there was a time when Christians needed

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this power for service, it's now. If ever there

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was a time when Christians needed this power

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to witness, it's now. This very hour. And you

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are not claiming your full inheritance in Christ

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Jesus if you have not yet been filled with the

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Holy Spirit. But let's come back now to the original

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question. Is this experience of being filled

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with the Holy Spirit, the baptism of the Holy

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Spirit, necessary to be taken up in the rapture?

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When we have this great catching up, those who

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have received the baptism of the Holy Spirit

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be taken up. Oh, it's gotten quiet even at your

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house. Let's take the word. Just take the word,

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my friend. All right. You've heard me read it

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over and over again. You've read it so often.

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You know it. without even turning to the word.

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But had you really read it? Fourth chapter, 1

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Thessalonians. He's talking about this great

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hour when the dead in Christ shall be raised

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first, then we which are alive. But let me read

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it to you. For the Lord himself. shall descend

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from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the

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archangel, and with the trump of God, and the

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dead in Christ shall rise first. Just one requisite.

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Those who died in the Lord. When the trumpet

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of the Lord shall sound, If right now, that moment

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would take place when God turns to the holy angels,

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when the Father turns to the Son, when he gives

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the Holy Spirit the nod, and he says, this is

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it. And watch. And with the... Trump of God,

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the dead in Christ shall rise first. Those who

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died in the Lord, and there are literally thousands

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and tens of thousands who died in the Lord, who

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had no light whatsoever regarding the Holy Spirit.

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They had no light whatsoever. ever regarding

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the baptism with the Holy Spirit. Saints of God,

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born again, their sins covered with the blood.

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It doesn't say those who died in the Lord and

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were filled with the Spirit. It doesn't say that

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at all. Sometimes I think that we're so prone

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to put words in God's mouth. Sometimes I think

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we're so apt to put words in the mouth of Jesus.

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Things that he never said at all. We're so prone

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to add to the Word of God. Be careful. You and

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I are on dangerous ground when we start adding

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to the Word of God. That's very dangerous. And

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there are those today who are adding to the Word

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of God. And you can't just take a phrase or a

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portion of the Word of God, take it out of its

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context, out of its setting. You've got to see

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everything that relates to the same subject.

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You could almost make a new doctrine out of any

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portion of the Word of God. by taking it out

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of its setting. No, ma 'am. There is nothing

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more or less said about those when the trump

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of the Lord shall sound and the dead in Christ

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shall rise first. precious saint of God, every

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man, every woman, who's been born again. And

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their bodies are out there in that cemetery,

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wherever they are. Whether they were a Christian

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for 50 years or five hours, if they were born

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again and died in the Lord, will be caught up.

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That's the first resurrection. Tomorrow, I will

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continue to talk about those of us who are left

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at that time. God bless you.