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You know, hell, Lindsay, before we begin our

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discussion today and when we get started, you

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know, there's no way we could go on for hours

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and hours and hours. But I want to tell you something

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personally. I might as well tell it before the

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whole world because it means so much to me. And

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that is the fact that you have never once gone

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off on the deep end. Never. You know, it's so

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very easy to go off into fanaticism. It's so

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easy. It's easy after one has become very successful

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to deviate from the Word of God and try to add

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to it or, you know. I know. But you've stuck

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with the Word. Hell, this is the Word. And you've

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stuck with the Word. And as long as you and I

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stay with the Word of God, the devil will never

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be able to make a nut out of this. You know it?

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It's staying with the Word. And I feel that God

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has given you a special ministry in the closing

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hours of this dispensation. It's a ministry of

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revealing the word of prophecy. It's something

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that God has given to you. It's something that's

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special. It's something that's marvelous. And

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I'm so glad I can sit down and talk with you

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about these things like no other person because

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it's the Holy Spirit who gives us the revelation.

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And you and I have never had to apologize once,

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have we? No. For the interpretation that God

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has given us. We have given to the people that

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God has given unto us and say, please, we were

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wrong. Everything that you have given regarding

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the fulfillment of the prophecy, God has lived

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up to the word. Take Israel. Go ahead. Start

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on that. Oh, that's great. Well, you know, I

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just wish that people could... hear the longer

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conversations that we have off the stage i know

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something on this prophecy we get going and we

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can't stop i know that we need hours we do i

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wish we had ours literally but uh you know uh

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the more i see the uh world events fitting into

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this pattern of prophecy that uh well many are

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talking about i'm sure but i had the privilege

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of writing about it in the late great planet

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earth and And now again, in the latest book,

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there's a new world coming. The more this pattern

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fits together, the more two things happen. Number

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one, the more I'm humbled to see the role I'm

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being pushed into. And in the second place, the

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more I see that people... who never would have

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considered listening to something about the Bible

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or something about Christianity, are open to

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consider today. And the more intelligent they

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are, the more they realize that something is

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about to happen. That's right. It seems that

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it's the ones who academically are highly trained

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that are really listening today. And, you know,

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just take this latest Middle East crisis to begin

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with. Yeah, just take it. It was exciting. It

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was. Every moment of it. Yes, it was. It was

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exciting to us who know the Word of God. Yeah,

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He's keeping His Word to Abraham and the seed

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of Abraham. Right. You know, I hope that the

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people, the descendants, the physical descendants

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of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob that we commonly

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call today the Jews, I hope they realize that

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their greatest supporter in these United States

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today are evangelical Christians. I want them

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to know that so much. I really want them to know

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that too. It's not that we think that they have

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to believe what we believe. It's that the evangelical

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Christian has the record of the Word of God,

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that God has chosen them as a physical race.

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He intends to ultimately bring them into a blessing

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He promised Abraham. And he promised he would

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bless those who blessed them and he would curse

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those who cursed them. And an evangelical Christian

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believes that, you know. Sure. But, you know,

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I read something that I'd like to share with

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you today. This was in the New York Jewish Press,

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May 22nd, 1970. And Menachem Israel was the correspondent.

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And he quoted a saying of Rabbi Chaim Voloshner.

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Now, I believe he was a rabbi in the latter part

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of the 19th century. He spoke of the fact that

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one day the Jews would come back to the land

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of Israel and would get their home back and they

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would become a nation again. And he spoke of

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the fact that when this happened, the Russians

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would eventually attack them. And he said, and

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I quote, when the Russians cross the Dardanelles

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to enter the Middle East, put on your Sabbath

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garments and be prepared to welcome the Messiah,

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end of quote. Now he was speaking. right out

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of Ezekiel chapter 38, a prophet that wrote 2650

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years ago, but said that the people would be

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scattered for a long period. The land of Israel

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would become a shambles and a desolate waste.

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And the people would be returned from the nations

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all over the world. They would make the land

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flourish again. They would become prosperous.

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And when that happened, both the Arabs and the

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Russians would unite against them. You know,

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this latest Middle East, I call it the Middle

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East crisis phase four, because it's the fourth

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one, what I believe will be a long line of them.

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But in this latest Middle East crisis, I believe

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we saw a pre -run of the way things will develop

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in that future time. Don't you? A preview of

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it. We really did. Because the Russians almost

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got into this last war. Now, I knew that they

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wouldn't. I knew they wouldn't come in with a

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great army. But there's coming a day when they

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will. Yes. I just knew there were certain things

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that hadn't happened yet. So it was exciting

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to watch it. Were you? Oh. Every hour of it,

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every day of it was very exciting, doing the

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Word of God and watching. Right. It was. But

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it was not their time yet. Yes, but there will

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come a time when they will cross the Dardanelles

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and they will move in the Middle East. And then

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they will sweep right through Israel and they

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will move into Egypt and to the Arab countries

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and take them over. You know, I used to wonder

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why they would do that. I used to wonder why

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the prophetic pattern was very clear. that for

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some reason the Russian Confederacy would double

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-cross the Arabs. You know, I believe it's becoming

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very clear why they will, because of the oil.

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Absolutely. You know, I've always said it, 25

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years ago, if you wanted a real scoop on the

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future... A real scoop. Start reading the Word

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of God. And in the 38th chapter of Ezekiel, it's

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said that they'll go down after a spoil. And

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the spoil is the oil. It certainly would be,

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because what else would they have in that area

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that would be of any great use to the Russians

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or to their block of power? But now we can see

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how that Western civilization... literally oil

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freaks. We can't survive without oil. And the

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Russians are as desperate for oil to feed their

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industry and their economy as we are. And I believe

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there's going to become a growing controversy

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between the communist bloc and the free world

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for the oil spoils of the Arabs. And this throws

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the ingredient into this area because now As

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the Bible predicted, the Middle East is the focal

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point of the world. We can see the whole world,

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the eyes of the world, turning there. Isn't that

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amazing when you realize that Israel as a nation

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is only 25 years old? Think of that. That they

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would be a determining factor. The amazing thing.

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It really is. For 39 centuries, the seed of Abraham

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scattered people. 39 centuries. Think of it.

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And then they become a nation. And such a young

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nation, only 25 years old. And yet the eyes of

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the world are focused upon the Middle East, upon

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Israel. You know, I was reading recently in Ezekiel

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chapter 36. It really struck me because, you

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know, I've been to Israel many times, and the

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people are people that I dearly love. Yeah. But,

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you know, I don't believe that they are, at this

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point, the majority of the people are ready to

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believe in the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

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Many of them are agnostics. But the interesting

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thing to me is that God predicted about the latter

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days when the nation of Israel would be brought

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back and all of this controversy would start

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between the Arabs and the Russians and so on

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over Israel. God said this, Therefore say to

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the house of Israel in Ezekiel 36, 22, Thus says

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the Lord God, It is not for your sake, O house

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of Israel, that I am about to act, but for my

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holy name. which you have profaned among the

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nations where you went. I will vindicate the

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holiness of my great name, which has been profaned

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among the nations, which you have profaned in

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their midst. Then the nations will know that

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I am the Lord, declares the Lord God, when I

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prove myself holy among you in their sight. In

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other words, God is saying that it's not because

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they have come to a faith in their ancient God

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or that they're looking for the Messiah, that

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he's protecting them. It is because of his holy

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name and by the very miraculous acts of providence

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that he has wrought and he will work in the future

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in preserving Israel. He says he is going to

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vindicate his name, that the nations are going

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to begin to know that there is a God that's acting

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in history. You know, I'm just thrilled to death

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to see what's happening now. You take this latest

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Middle East crisis. I can understand the frustrations

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of the Arabs. I'm not anti -Arab. That's right.

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But at the same time, I believe that Israel has

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a right to live. And when they were attacked,

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they were caught by surprise. It's a miracle

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that they could recover. And especially that

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they could come back and take the initiative

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and pull off a perfect double envelopment. And

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if they'd have gone a couple more days, they

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would have surrounded the Second Army as well

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as the Third Army. I just don't believe that

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they have human wisdom enough to do this. I think

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that it's the providence of God that's acting

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behind it. I believe every word of that. I just

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believe it. And I believe that the situation

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is such now that one of these days, a great number

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of Israelis are going to begin to recognize that

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it's their ancient God. From the word of God.

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And that is the very word of God. Israel will

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not go down in defeat, no matter what happens.

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And all of these things that are happening now,

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they're not small things. but they're leading

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up to a very great thing. Yes, they are. A war

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that will end all wars. And all of these lesser

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fightings, just previews, and yet in between

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each one, there is a time of mercy. God's mercy

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is so marvelous. And now we're seeing a few accepting

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the Christ, the true Messiah. But there's coming

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an hour when all of Israel. That's right. Well,

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isn't it exciting? It's exciting. We'll bow the

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head and accept him as a true Messiah. All right.

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What's going to happen in the oil crisis? Well,

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I believe that the oil crisis has brought. world

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involvement to the Middle East. It's intensified

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a situation that was already there. I believe

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that what is going to happen is that there's

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going to become a greater and greater squeeze

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on the West with this oil, that there's going

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to come about such a tremendous pressure upon

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Western nations to turn against Israel, that

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eventually there's going to have to be another

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miracle brought about. to preserve Israel from

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being destroyed. I don't know exactly what that'll

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be. I just know it's going to happen. Somehow,

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Israel is going to be preserved as a nation.

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God said that twice they would be destroyed and

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twice they would be driven among the nations,

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twice they would come back, and at the end of

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that second dispersion, when they would come

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back for the second time and resettle the nation,

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they would never be driven away again. And so

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I know that somehow in this whole controversy,

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they have to survive. Daniel tells us that eventually

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Europe and the revived form of Rome, which I

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believe is going to be the European common market,

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that they will sign a pact with the leader of

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Israel guaranteeing their survival. It's going

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to be interesting to see how that shapes up.

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Aren't you thrilled to know that we're living

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in one of the greatest times and hour when we're

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seeing more prophecy being fulfilled in the shortest

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length of time since the first coming of the

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Lord Jesus Christ? This is the greatest thing

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to me. You know, many people fail to seize the

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significance of the moment that never before

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have all of these prophecies come together simultaneously.

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And that's why I've emphasized the sayings of

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Jesus when he said in Matthew 24, learn the parable

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of the fig tree. The fig tree puts forth its

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leaves, you know that summer is near. Then he

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said, even so, when you see all these things,

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the prophetic signs coming together, he said,

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no, I'm at the door ready to return. That generation

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will not pass away. See, this is the first time

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I'm thrilled. to see the first copy of There's

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a New World Coming. And it's just been off the

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press for a couple of weeks, and I got one of

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the first copies, right? I sure did. This is

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great. There's a new world coming. Yes. The scripture.

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This is, I wanted to emphasize that there is

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a hope in the midst of what we know is coming.

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We know that the world is coming to a point where

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it will be near extinction. And then Christ is

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going to come back with those who have believed

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in him. There'll never be an end to the world.

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People are talking about the end of the world.

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Not that. It's not the end of the world. But

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there is a new world coming. Right. Isn't the

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Bible thrilling? It is. It is up to date as tomorrow's

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newspaper. And so already there's, how many copies

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have been sold in only a couple of weeks? Well,

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I believe the latest counts 350 ,000, which is

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without precedent. No one can figure such a thing.

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It's just that people are so hungry to know what

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is happening. This book is on the book of Revelation.

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And personally, it's the most exciting book I've

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ever worked on. And I sought to make the book

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of Revelation understandable to the average man.

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And your first book has sold the great late planet

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Earth. How many copies of this have been sold?

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Well, including the Bantam edition, I understand

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that in the American edition, it's at almost

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5 million. And it's all scriptural. I hope so.

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Again, I want to say to you, Hal Lindsey, I appreciate

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the fact that you've stayed with the Word. You

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can take the books that you have written in one

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hand and the Word of God in the other. I cannot

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find one thing that you have written that's contrary

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to the Scripture. Well, that is my greatest prayer.

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I appreciate it. If you and I will stay with

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the Word, and it's in the Word, and this is the

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very Word of God. I believe it. We do not have

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to defend the word. It needs no defense. This

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is. And God will keep his word. No man will change

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it. He'll keep this word to the crossing of every

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key, the dotting of every I. If you really want

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to know what the future holds. If you really.

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If you are a part of the news media. If you really.

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I say this to politicians. I say this to world

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leaders. Newspaper men. Those of you who are

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hungry for real information. And you want to

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know what the future holds. And I'm not talking

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about centuries away. I'm talking about tomorrow.

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I'm talking about next week. The word of God

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is more up to date than tomorrow morning's newspaper.

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You can stake your very life on God's word. Prophecy

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is being fulfilled so quickly. Read his word.
