WEBVTT 00:00:00.010 --> 00:00:03.089 You knew it would be a heart -to -heart talk 00:00:03.089 --> 00:00:10.250 today. At least you were hoping. All right. Oh, 00:00:10.289 --> 00:00:13.509 I tell you, there's nothing in the world like 00:00:13.509 --> 00:00:18.510 the Word of God. It is alive. It is practical. 00:00:20.190 --> 00:00:23.750 I mean exactly that. So is this thing of living 00:00:23.750 --> 00:00:28.690 a Christian life. It isn't just an experience. 00:00:28.859 --> 00:00:35.000 that took place for 5 minutes, 15 minutes. It's 00:00:35.000 --> 00:00:39.840 a life. Literally. Now, when it comes to salvation, 00:00:40.119 --> 00:00:45.340 salvation is instantaneous. Remember what the 00:00:45.340 --> 00:00:51.159 word says. Working out your own salvation. But 00:00:51.159 --> 00:00:52.479 you've got to have something there before you 00:00:52.479 --> 00:00:55.399 can work it out. You can't work out something 00:00:55.399 --> 00:00:58.200 that you've never had. When there's nothing there 00:00:58.200 --> 00:00:59.899 to work out, when are you going to work out? 00:01:00.280 --> 00:01:03.259 And there are a lot of folks that are killing 00:01:03.259 --> 00:01:06.480 themselves working at it, making themselves so 00:01:06.480 --> 00:01:09.900 miserable trying to work at something when they 00:01:09.900 --> 00:01:12.560 haven't had anything in the first place to work 00:01:12.560 --> 00:01:19.879 out. Work out your own salvation. But before 00:01:19.879 --> 00:01:23.840 you can work it out, you've got to have the new 00:01:23.840 --> 00:01:28.760 birth experience. This spiritual experience, 00:01:29.239 --> 00:01:34.780 which is as definite as your birth in the flesh. 00:01:36.680 --> 00:01:42.560 And it's like that. You can't be putting clothes 00:01:42.560 --> 00:01:47.599 on little babies before they're born. You can't 00:01:47.599 --> 00:01:54.939 be dressing up the dear little titan bee. Putting 00:01:54.939 --> 00:01:58.400 him in his crib and feeding him his milk and 00:01:58.400 --> 00:02:04.219 taking care of him until after he's born. But 00:02:04.219 --> 00:02:05.920 there are a lot of people who are so inconsistent 00:02:05.920 --> 00:02:12.259 when it comes to spiritual things. They are getting 00:02:12.259 --> 00:02:14.620 themselves all dressed up and working out something 00:02:14.620 --> 00:02:19.780 and they've never been born. They've never had 00:02:19.780 --> 00:02:24.259 that spiritual birth. You can't dress up a baby 00:02:24.259 --> 00:02:27.000 until after there has been the physical birth. 00:02:27.259 --> 00:02:33.919 After the baby is born, then you feed it, then 00:02:33.919 --> 00:02:39.520 you clothe it, then you train it, then you work 00:02:39.520 --> 00:02:44.139 on its future. But it's got to be born first. 00:02:44.759 --> 00:02:47.780 In exactly the same way when it comes to the 00:02:47.780 --> 00:02:52.389 spiritual birth. There are a lot of people working 00:02:52.389 --> 00:02:57.590 at something that they had never had. You've 00:02:57.590 --> 00:03:00.509 got to be born again. You've got to have the 00:03:00.509 --> 00:03:04.789 spiritual birth first before you can work out 00:03:04.789 --> 00:03:11.770 your salvation. And your spiritual birth is something 00:03:11.770 --> 00:03:16.069 that's instantaneous. It's a definite experience. 00:03:17.639 --> 00:03:21.199 A definite time, a definite place in exactly 00:03:21.199 --> 00:03:23.699 the same way that there is a definite time and 00:03:23.699 --> 00:03:27.699 a definite place for the physical birth. Now 00:03:27.699 --> 00:03:29.879 we got that settled. All right. And you want 00:03:29.879 --> 00:03:34.840 to know something? There are thousands of people 00:03:34.840 --> 00:03:42.360 who are so sincere in believing that they are 00:03:42.360 --> 00:03:45.780 Christians. I really don't believe that they 00:03:45.780 --> 00:03:48.159 recognize the fact that they have never had this 00:03:48.159 --> 00:03:51.900 spiritual birth. They go to church every Sunday? 00:03:53.699 --> 00:03:59.319 For one solid hour? I'll tell you, they're right 00:03:59.319 --> 00:04:07.060 there. There are those who run to Mass. They're 00:04:07.060 --> 00:04:10.159 there. They wouldn't miss Mass for anything. 00:04:10.919 --> 00:04:14.080 There are those who take communion. They wouldn't 00:04:14.080 --> 00:04:19.139 miss it for anything in the world. They're working 00:04:19.139 --> 00:04:24.259 on something that they've never had. They've 00:04:24.259 --> 00:04:28.959 never been born again. Now, that is the reason 00:04:28.959 --> 00:04:31.639 that this portion of the Word of God that we 00:04:31.639 --> 00:04:34.439 started in our last heart -to -heart talk is 00:04:34.439 --> 00:04:38.779 so important and so grossly misunderstood. I 00:04:38.779 --> 00:04:44.879 should take it very seriously Slowly. I shall 00:04:44.879 --> 00:04:51.500 speak so. That the little mama who has such a 00:04:51.500 --> 00:04:55.560 hard time and keeps writing to me and she says, 00:04:55.720 --> 00:05:01.939 Dear Miss Cooman, you forget. I'm 86 years old 00:05:01.939 --> 00:05:06.560 and sometimes you talk so fast. My poor little 00:05:06.560 --> 00:05:13.860 worn out ears. Can't hear it all so fast. All 00:05:13.860 --> 00:05:15.699 right, honey, Miss Kuma talked a little more 00:05:15.699 --> 00:05:20.459 slowly today. Yes, for you. Now, let's read it. 00:05:21.500 --> 00:05:24.360 Let's begin with the fourth verse of the sixth 00:05:24.360 --> 00:05:31.019 chapter of Hebrews. For it is impossible. What's 00:05:31.019 --> 00:05:34.519 that word, impossible? And then the two words 00:05:34.519 --> 00:05:39.529 that follow. For those. Now we know immediately 00:05:39.529 --> 00:05:44.149 that Paul is not speaking to the folk who are 00:05:44.149 --> 00:05:47.829 in his presence right there. It is impossible 00:05:47.829 --> 00:05:52.870 for those who were once enlightened and have 00:05:52.870 --> 00:05:56.589 tasted of the heavenly gift and were made partakers 00:05:56.589 --> 00:06:01.250 of the Holy Spirit and have tasted the good word 00:06:01.250 --> 00:06:04.829 of God and the powers of the world to come. If 00:06:04.829 --> 00:06:10.230 they shall fall away, to renew them again unto 00:06:10.230 --> 00:06:14.490 repentance seeing they crucify to themselves 00:06:14.490 --> 00:06:20.310 the son of god afresh and put him to an open 00:06:20.310 --> 00:06:25.569 shame for the earth which drinketh in the rain 00:06:25.569 --> 00:06:28.430 that cometh oft upon it and bringeth forth herbs 00:06:28.430 --> 00:06:32.389 meeteth for them by whom it is dressed receiveth 00:06:32.389 --> 00:06:36.879 blessings from god but that which beareth Thorns 00:06:36.879 --> 00:06:40.360 and briars is rejected and is nigh unto cursing, 00:06:40.399 --> 00:06:49.920 whose end is to be burned. But, beloved, we are 00:06:49.920 --> 00:06:56.899 persuaded better things of you and things that 00:06:56.899 --> 00:07:02.600 accompany salvation. He's talking to two different 00:07:02.600 --> 00:07:06.069 classes of people. I'm going to say something 00:07:06.069 --> 00:07:09.730 that will probably shock some of you, and all 00:07:09.730 --> 00:07:11.850 I ask of you is to sit there with an open mind 00:07:11.850 --> 00:07:14.990 and open heart. Let the Holy Spirit be your teacher. 00:07:15.569 --> 00:07:18.529 These things are only spiritually revealed. I 00:07:18.529 --> 00:07:21.189 don't care what you've been taught. Please just 00:07:21.189 --> 00:07:23.610 now do not have any preconceived ideas in your 00:07:23.610 --> 00:07:25.689 mind. Just sit there with an open mind. Let the 00:07:25.689 --> 00:07:28.970 Holy Spirit be your teacher. Because I know that 00:07:28.970 --> 00:07:32.930 there are many, many... many different interpretations 00:07:32.930 --> 00:07:36.730 to this portion of the Word of God. Some feel 00:07:36.730 --> 00:07:42.089 as though it is the unpardonable sin. It is not. 00:07:43.990 --> 00:07:49.629 Watch. And before I give the interpretation of 00:07:49.629 --> 00:07:54.329 this, as the Holy Spirit has given it unto me, 00:07:54.470 --> 00:07:58.670 I want to just remind you of something. And that 00:07:58.670 --> 00:08:03.709 is the fact that There are an awful lot of phonies 00:08:03.709 --> 00:08:09.610 in the world. Oh, the world is loaded with phonies. 00:08:10.709 --> 00:08:14.750 You've got them in your office. You'll agree 00:08:14.750 --> 00:08:20.410 with me that wherever you work, wherever you 00:08:20.410 --> 00:08:24.470 are employed, you've got some phonies hanging 00:08:24.470 --> 00:08:30.629 around. And you folk who are employers. You'll 00:08:30.629 --> 00:08:35.190 have to be honest and admit you've got some phonies 00:08:35.190 --> 00:08:43.389 in the organization. And your neighborhood. Oh, 00:08:43.590 --> 00:08:53.110 sure. They aren't kidding you one bit. I know. 00:08:53.710 --> 00:08:56.950 She gets all dressed up like the f***. first 00:08:56.950 --> 00:09:01.250 horse in the parade, and you know the whole thing 00:09:01.250 --> 00:09:04.549 is charged, and it hasn't been paid for yet. 00:09:04.690 --> 00:09:12.690 You know that. Oh, I hear them talk. You hear 00:09:12.690 --> 00:09:20.230 them talk. We don't say anything, but we know 00:09:20.230 --> 00:09:25.600 they're phonies. And then, you know, An awful 00:09:25.600 --> 00:09:27.879 lot of people doing an awful lot of bluffing. 00:09:28.500 --> 00:09:34.860 Oh, my goodness, a life. An awful lot of bluffing 00:09:34.860 --> 00:09:39.440 goes on. And when it comes right down to producing, 00:09:39.740 --> 00:09:42.740 they can't do it. Oh, they've gotten by a long 00:09:42.740 --> 00:09:46.440 time. Sometimes they get by six months. Sometimes 00:09:46.440 --> 00:09:49.940 they get by a year. Sometimes they get by five 00:09:49.940 --> 00:09:54.289 years. But sooner or later, When the crisis comes, 00:09:54.490 --> 00:09:59.350 sooner or later, when they're brought face to 00:09:59.350 --> 00:10:02.409 face with something, it's proven that they're 00:10:02.409 --> 00:10:06.309 nothing more or less than a big bluff. Just a 00:10:06.309 --> 00:10:15.230 bluff. I hate to admit it, but we've got an awful 00:10:15.230 --> 00:10:19.990 lot of bluffs and we've got an awful lot of phonies. 00:10:20.720 --> 00:10:25.480 When it comes to this thing of religion, we're 00:10:25.480 --> 00:10:30.200 loaded, my friend, we're loaded. And these are 00:10:30.200 --> 00:10:33.980 the people that have brought such a reproach 00:10:33.980 --> 00:10:37.539 on the things of the gospel. They have brought 00:10:37.539 --> 00:10:44.240 such reproach on the things of God. They have 00:10:44.240 --> 00:10:53.460 literally put Jesus to... open shame. And it's 00:10:53.460 --> 00:11:01.860 just like that. Every time that I bring a heart 00:11:01.860 --> 00:11:06.679 -to -heart talk on the power of the Holy Spirit, 00:11:06.940 --> 00:11:13.539 every time I say anything about speaking in an 00:11:13.539 --> 00:11:18.039 unknown tongue, I get letters from people who 00:11:18.039 --> 00:11:22.000 will say, Oh, Ms. Kuhlman, we believe what you 00:11:22.000 --> 00:11:27.279 say. We know it's in the Bible. This speaking 00:11:27.279 --> 00:11:30.299 in an unknown tongue is there. It's in the Bible. 00:11:30.360 --> 00:11:34.059 But we know somebody who can turn it off and 00:11:34.059 --> 00:11:42.090 turn it on, and they don't live the life. all 00:11:42.090 --> 00:11:44.570 the things that bring a reproach on something 00:11:44.570 --> 00:11:48.389 that's very wonderful. Every time I speak on 00:11:48.389 --> 00:11:54.090 the baptism of the Holy Spirit, I'll get letters 00:11:54.090 --> 00:11:57.450 from those who say, Miss Gorman, we know it's 00:11:57.450 --> 00:12:01.950 in the Word. It's there. We have followed you 00:12:01.950 --> 00:12:07.389 in the Scripture. And yet, there is somebody 00:12:07.389 --> 00:12:12.789 in our church who professes to be filled with 00:12:12.789 --> 00:12:17.570 the Holy Spirit. And if the life that they live 00:12:17.570 --> 00:12:22.370 is a Spirit -filled life, we want nothing to 00:12:22.370 --> 00:12:29.269 do with it. Even when it comes to this thing 00:12:29.269 --> 00:12:38.769 of being a Christian. You know somebody who makes 00:12:38.769 --> 00:12:42.960 a Big pretense of this thing of being a Christian. 00:12:43.360 --> 00:12:47.539 Even the very attitude of being holier than thou. 00:12:48.379 --> 00:12:53.399 And these are folk who'll sit on the little throne 00:12:53.399 --> 00:13:02.059 of judgment and judge. Oh, they'd love to judge 00:13:02.059 --> 00:13:05.379 their neighbors. They'd love to judge their in 00:13:05.379 --> 00:13:12.960 -laws. Holy horror. Who we. So self -righteous. 00:13:13.919 --> 00:13:17.419 But they only do it. It's the only means they 00:13:17.419 --> 00:13:23.320 have of covering up their own sins. It's a matter 00:13:23.320 --> 00:13:31.600 of defense. They are really on the defense. Because 00:13:31.600 --> 00:13:33.700 they know their own hearts and they know their 00:13:33.700 --> 00:13:40.409 own dirty lives. And it's like that. Mm -hmm. 00:13:41.429 --> 00:13:45.509 Sometimes they'll get themselves all dressed 00:13:45.509 --> 00:13:49.909 up in long sleeves and long skirts and long hair 00:13:49.909 --> 00:13:54.830 and long faces just to cover up what isn't on 00:13:54.830 --> 00:14:06.649 the inside. Phonies. Ducks. After all, my friend 00:14:06.649 --> 00:14:12.429 is that which is in the... that's important. 00:14:15.049 --> 00:14:19.570 You know what the Master said? I want to read 00:14:19.570 --> 00:14:25.370 just a couple of verses in 1 John, the second 00:14:25.370 --> 00:14:32.809 chapter, the fourth verse. He that saith, I know 00:14:32.809 --> 00:14:40.190 him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar. 00:14:40.730 --> 00:14:42.690 And you can't be a liar and be a Christian, too. 00:14:43.929 --> 00:14:52.070 He's a liar. And the truth is not in him. But 00:14:52.070 --> 00:14:56.269 whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the 00:14:56.269 --> 00:15:00.590 love of God perfected. Hereby know we that we 00:15:00.590 --> 00:15:06.970 are in him. If you've been born again. You'll 00:15:06.970 --> 00:15:14.190 keep his commandments. You'll live like it. You'll 00:15:14.190 --> 00:15:18.389 walk like it. You'll talk like it. There will 00:15:18.389 --> 00:15:23.889 automatically be the fruit of the Spirit. That's 00:15:23.889 --> 00:15:26.370 exactly what Paul meant here when he said, but 00:15:26.370 --> 00:15:30.210 beloved, we are persuaded better things of you 00:15:30.210 --> 00:15:35.600 and things that accompany salvation. There are 00:15:35.600 --> 00:15:39.840 certain things that accompany salvation. And 00:15:39.840 --> 00:15:41.019 you don't have to go around and tell everybody 00:15:41.019 --> 00:15:45.159 you're a Christian. You don't have to. Your life 00:15:45.159 --> 00:15:47.700 will prove it. The way you live, the things you 00:15:47.700 --> 00:15:53.120 do, the way you talk. Your very speech will betray 00:15:53.120 --> 00:16:00.740 you. These things accompany salvation. And in 00:16:00.740 --> 00:16:05.399 the final analysis, you aren't fooling. Anybody 00:16:05.399 --> 00:16:10.440 but yourself. Now let's go back to the first 00:16:10.440 --> 00:16:15.980 part of the sixth chapter of Hebrews. It is impossible 00:16:15.980 --> 00:16:20.639 for those who were once enlightened, have tasted 00:16:20.639 --> 00:16:24.000 of the heavenly gift, were made partakers of 00:16:24.000 --> 00:16:26.860 the Holy Spirit, have tasted the good word of 00:16:26.860 --> 00:16:31.019 God and the powers of the world to come, if they 00:16:31.019 --> 00:16:36.230 shall fall away to renew them again. On to repentance. 00:16:37.629 --> 00:16:40.009 Seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of 00:16:40.009 --> 00:16:43.590 God afresh and put him to an open shame, they 00:16:43.590 --> 00:16:52.169 have never been born again. I'm going to be still 00:16:52.169 --> 00:16:56.190 just a minute until this penetrates a little 00:16:56.190 --> 00:17:00.370 bit. Because perhaps you've never seen this. 00:17:02.859 --> 00:17:05.500 Perhaps there has never been this revelation. 00:17:07.660 --> 00:17:14.220 And it seems so fantastic to even consider the 00:17:14.220 --> 00:17:18.339 fact that there are those who've been enlightened, 00:17:18.619 --> 00:17:21.460 who've tasted of the heavenly gift, who were 00:17:21.460 --> 00:17:25.079 made partakers of the Holy Spirit, have tasted 00:17:25.079 --> 00:17:29.160 the good word of God and the powers of the world 00:17:29.160 --> 00:17:34.180 to come. Do you know that right? Right now, you 00:17:34.180 --> 00:17:39.400 are tasting of the good word of God. That's exactly 00:17:39.400 --> 00:17:42.140 what I'm bringing to you. The good word of God. 00:17:43.000 --> 00:17:47.619 Right now, you are being enlightened. If you've 00:17:47.619 --> 00:17:50.119 been listening to me for the past 20 minutes, 00:17:50.259 --> 00:17:55.160 you know the way of salvation. I've made it so 00:17:55.160 --> 00:18:03.180 plain. You know how to be saved. liked just listening 00:18:03.180 --> 00:18:07.480 to me in the past 20 minutes to know that you 00:18:07.480 --> 00:18:13.480 need to be born again. Once enlightened, have 00:18:13.480 --> 00:18:18.660 tasted of the heavenly gift, were made partakers 00:18:18.660 --> 00:18:22.319 of the Holy Ghost. How often I think in some 00:18:22.319 --> 00:18:26.539 of these wonderful miracle services. In some 00:18:26.539 --> 00:18:29.359 of these wonderful services in the Shrine of 00:18:29.359 --> 00:18:33.500 the Torium. When the power of the Holy Spirit 00:18:33.500 --> 00:18:36.680 is falling, and I tell you the truth, there is 00:18:36.680 --> 00:18:42.799 so much of the power of the Holy Spirit that 00:18:42.799 --> 00:18:48.119 not only those who have come to attend the service, 00:18:48.319 --> 00:18:53.519 but even those who are employees, perhaps as 00:18:53.519 --> 00:19:00.869 union men, who are stagehands, or who have helped 00:19:00.869 --> 00:19:06.150 to put up the chairs cannot but help feel the 00:19:06.150 --> 00:19:09.750 presence of the Holy Spirit because the place 00:19:09.750 --> 00:19:12.549 is literally saturated with the power of the 00:19:12.549 --> 00:19:19.049 Holy Spirit. Those who stand in the wings, those 00:19:19.049 --> 00:19:24.230 who stand in the open doorway, if they only realized 00:19:24.230 --> 00:19:30.519 it, are partakers of the Holy Spirit. And they 00:19:30.519 --> 00:19:34.140 will acknowledge readily that they have felt 00:19:34.140 --> 00:19:37.200 something wonderful. There was something strangely 00:19:37.200 --> 00:19:41.940 different. I'll go even further than that. There 00:19:41.940 --> 00:19:44.940 are those who have been in great caring meetings. 00:19:45.420 --> 00:19:48.519 There are those who've been in the presence of 00:19:48.519 --> 00:19:50.779 others who had received the baptism of the Holy 00:19:50.779 --> 00:19:58.690 Spirit. Partakers of the Holy Spirit. They've 00:19:58.690 --> 00:20:01.470 been those who literally have felt the resurrection 00:20:01.470 --> 00:20:04.670 power of God going through their bodies. Partakers 00:20:04.670 --> 00:20:10.289 of the Holy Spirit. They have tasted of the heavenly 00:20:10.289 --> 00:20:12.390 gift. Sure, when it comes to being born again, 00:20:12.529 --> 00:20:18.809 they have tasted of the heavenly gift. They've 00:20:18.809 --> 00:20:22.450 tasted the good word of God and the powers of 00:20:22.450 --> 00:20:28.700 the world to come. Totally they know what it's 00:20:28.700 --> 00:20:34.079 all about. But lo, they are running a bluff. 00:20:36.359 --> 00:20:46.660 They have never really been born again. Never. 00:20:47.259 --> 00:20:51.160 There are those in our pulpits. There are those 00:20:51.160 --> 00:20:53.230 who are serving as... deacons. There are those 00:20:53.230 --> 00:20:55.829 who are serving as elders. There are those who 00:20:55.829 --> 00:20:59.950 sing in the choir every Sunday. There are those 00:20:59.950 --> 00:21:06.670 who hold high positions in our churches, both 00:21:06.670 --> 00:21:12.329 Catholic and Protestant, who have never been 00:21:12.329 --> 00:21:21.000 born again. And then, by their actions, not living 00:21:21.000 --> 00:21:24.299 the life because they can't live the life. They 00:21:24.299 --> 00:21:26.039 can't work out their own salvation because they've 00:21:26.039 --> 00:21:31.640 never been converted. Then by the life that they 00:21:31.640 --> 00:21:36.900 live, they put Jesus Christ to an open shame. 00:21:37.440 --> 00:21:40.720 And they bring a reproach on the gospel of the 00:21:40.720 --> 00:21:43.359 Lord Jesus Christ. And the neighbor says, if 00:21:43.359 --> 00:21:45.839 that's being a Christian, I don't want it. And 00:21:45.839 --> 00:21:48.579 the relatives say, if that's being a Christian, 00:21:48.910 --> 00:21:55.109 I don't want it. Mm -hmm. I don't care how often 00:21:55.109 --> 00:21:57.170 you've spoken in tongues. You can turn it on 00:21:57.170 --> 00:21:59.609 and turn it off. If you don't live the life, 00:21:59.710 --> 00:22:05.450 it's best you do not speak in tongues. I said 00:22:05.450 --> 00:22:09.309 a mouthful. It's much more important that you 00:22:09.309 --> 00:22:15.089 live the life. Why does the word say, after once 00:22:15.089 --> 00:22:18.309 enlightened, if they shall fall away, to renew 00:22:18.309 --> 00:22:22.490 them again unto repentance. Because, my friend, 00:22:22.630 --> 00:22:29.089 there is nothing more. If you will not listen 00:22:29.089 --> 00:22:33.250 to the Holy Spirit, if you will not accept the 00:22:33.250 --> 00:22:39.670 Christ, even after the Holy Spirit has convicted 00:22:39.670 --> 00:22:44.069 you, and you have all of this light, there is 00:22:44.069 --> 00:22:48.059 no further peace. help for you because there's 00:22:48.059 --> 00:22:51.460 nothing more God can do. There's nothing more 00:22:51.460 --> 00:22:59.240 left. That is it. If you're looking for something 00:22:59.240 --> 00:23:05.579 more, there is nothing more to get you to repent. 00:23:06.759 --> 00:23:11.720 You've had the works. You've refused it. And 00:23:11.720 --> 00:23:19.599 in refusing it, you're lost. If you don't live 00:23:19.599 --> 00:23:22.200 it, then don't profess it.