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Today you and I are going to have some old -fashioned

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Missouri cornbread. And it's going to be very

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old -fashioned. It's going to be just the kind

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that Mama made. And it's going to be good for

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you. It's going to be so good for you. Oh, you

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may not enjoy it. You may not appreciate it at

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first. But would you please just sit there with

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an open heart and an open mind and I'll tell

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you how this little heart -to -heart talk all

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started. The engineer and myself were discussing

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something in the studio and... We were discussing

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a person. And in the middle of our discussion,

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he turned and said, why don't you talk about

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this over the air? It may help somebody listening.

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Do you realize that all these things are unrehearsed?

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I wonder sometimes if you really do. Do you realize

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that when I come into your home and you and I

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have these heart -to -heart talks, that I don't

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work with the script? I just sit here and talk

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to you just as though I was in your own home

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and just as though I'd walked into your kitchen.

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The door was unlocked and I come in and say,

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have you been waiting for me? I was born noisy.

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You know, it's the most natural thing in the

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world for me to say, hi. Sure, I can stand on

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the streetcar and see somebody a block away and

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think nothing of just opening my mouth when it

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comes out and I say, hi there, you know. Mama

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always did say I was the noisiest kid that was

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ever born. Ask anybody in Concordia, Missouri,

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and they'll tell you the noisiest. Kid that ever

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lived in Concordia, Missouri was Joe Kuman's

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girl. And it's just like that. Mm -hmm. I remember

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when I was very young and Mama was always afraid

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that I was going to do something to disgrace

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the family. Always. And I remember that Papa

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said to her one day, Now, Emma. You won't have

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to worry about Catherine. It's these quiet girls

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that you have to worry about. These girls that

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are so good and so quiet. You have to watch them.

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But you'll never have to worry about Catherine

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because she's so loud. She's so noisy that everybody

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knows every minute where she is and what she's

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doing. And it's kind of like that, you know?

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Sure. Well, sir, I'll tell you how this little

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heart -to -heart talk was born. The engineer

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and myself were discussing a person who is very

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irritable. Everything. The slightest little thing.

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gets on his nerves. Just, you know, some people

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will fight at the drop of the hat, but he's one

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that you don't have to drop the hat. He's ready

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to fight, even though he doesn't even see a hat.

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And he takes everything to himself. He's sure

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that you are meaning him. when you weren't even

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thinking about him. Just constantly. Until one

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day I actually said, I believe that's the meanest

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person in the world. I just think he is. Then

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we got to analyzing him and I said, well, how

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could he be anything else but irritable? Because

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we were both trying to understand him. How could

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he be sweet and wonderful? How could he really

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be happy? How could he really be a cheerful person?

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How could he really be a big person when he's

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not being true to himself? His life, his personal

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life is very questionable. Inside of him, there

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couldn't possibly be peace. You know, it is impossible

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for a man or a woman to be living in adultery

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and have peace of mind and peace of soul. That

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thing constantly is nagging you like a cancer.

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in the physical body. It's there. It's inescapable.

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There's just something about it. You may not

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be aware of it, but it's there. It's a constant

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pain. It's a constant knowing. You may not be

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conscious of it, but if this very moment you

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are living a double life, You are living in adultery.

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Nobody in God's heaven may know it but you and

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the person with whom you are committing adultery.

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Just the two of you, you feel. Know anything

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about it. It is done with such secrecy. And yet,

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that thing is knowing at you. It's knowing. It's

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dragging you down mentally, physically. It isn't

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long before you are wondering what's happened

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to your nerves. You're wondering what's happened

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to you. You cut people off. And the strangest

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thing is that you put the blame on everybody

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else but yourself. Mm -hmm. You'll blame your

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wife. You'll blame your husband. You'll blame

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your employer. You'll blame the neighbors. When

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really, if you just stop and look yourself directly

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in the face, you'll find that the trouble lies

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within yourself. You cannot be a thief. Oh, you

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may say I haven't robbed the First National Bank.

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Ah, I haven't. It isn't a matter of the thousands

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that I am taking. It's just that, well, mentally

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you have sold yourself on the fact that you have

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a right to those things. Mm -hmm. If you were

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caught at it, you'd have a good argument. You'd

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say, well... It's rightfully mine. It's amazing

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how we can sell ourselves a bill of goods. We

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can just sell ourselves right down the river.

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You cannot have peace of mind and peace of soul.

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You cannot be a happy, you cannot be a free person.

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You cannot be a big person. You cannot be a happy

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person if you're doing anything underhanded.

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You cannot. If you are living a double life,

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I don't care what it is, if you're not living

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a life that's above board, it is impossible for

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you to be a happy, a contented, a free person.

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It does show. It shows. Somebody said, is that

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the way your mother made Missouri cornbread?

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That's exactly the way she made it. I'm going

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to read you a portion of the Word of God. Oh,

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the Bible is great. Oh, it's so practical. And

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this thing of living the Christian life? Life

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is a life. It's not just something that you enjoy

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on Sundays or the hour that you sit in the place

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of worship on Sunday. You don't hang it up in

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the closet like you do your Sunday clothes. No,

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it's a life. Seven days a week, 24 hours a day.

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365 days a year, 60 seconds of every minute of

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your life. It is not only an experience, it is

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literally a life. And it affects every part of

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your living, your life, and your being. Let me

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read from the seventh chapter of Matthew. ye

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shall know them by their fruits do men gather

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grapes of thorns or figs of thistles he asks

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a question even so every good tree bringeth forth

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good fruit but a corrupt tree bringeth forth

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evil fruit evil fruit neither can a corrupt tree

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bring forth good fruit and it's just like that

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wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them

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the only way that i can know a person is by their

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fruits by their outward action, their deeds,

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their conversation. I cannot look deep into the

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recesses of their hearts. I cannot look into

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their minds. The only way I know you is through

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your conversation, by the life that you live,

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the fruits of that life. But those fruits are

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a result of what you are on the inside of you.

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That's what Jesus is saying here. And it's just

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like that. You can tell a great deal about a

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person from just studying his attitude. People

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are mean and suspicious and vindictive outwardly.

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Only when they are mean and suspicious inwardly.

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If you see somebody who is mean, who is suspicious,

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somebody who'll snap at you, then there's no

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reason for it at all. You know that inwardly,

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there's a very disturbed person. Inwardly, at

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the very root of that person, inside. Inwardly,

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they're mean. They're vindictive. They're suspicious.

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And when a person on the inside is clean and

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good, when they've been born again, they know.

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know that God is their Heavenly Father. They

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are confident. There's assurance. There's a cleanness

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there that you just can't describe. There are

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no words in the human vocabulary to describe

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it. They go to bed at night. Peace of mind and

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peace of soul. They awake in the morning. They're

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positive. There's assurance. Mm -hmm. Then the

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fruit that comes from such a life is good fruit.

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They're happy people. They're contented people.

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And the more confident a person is of his own

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value as a person, the better his attitude toward

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others and the world in general. He just adds

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up like two and two make four. It's just like

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that. And big people, and I call these people

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big people. Now, when I speak of big people,

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I'm not talking about their materialistic value.

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You know, we put such value, we've gotten so

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materialistic in our thinking that we've gotten

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so that we've got a dollar and cent sign on everything.

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I'm not talking about a moneyed man or a moneyed

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woman. Forget it. The cheapest thing in the world

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is money. I'm talking about things that money

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can't buy. And when I talk about... big people.

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I'm talking about people who know how to love.

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I'm talking about people who know how to forgive.

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I'm talking about people who can smile. I'm talking

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about people who hold no grudges. I'm talking

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about people who aren't always carrying a chip

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on their shoulders. I'm talking about people

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who are self -assured. When I say big people,

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that's what I'm talking about. You can be a big

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person and not have a copper cent. You can be

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a big person and not own a stick of furniture.

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That's right. And a big person knows how to give.

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And a big person knows how to love. And big people

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just naturally treat you well. They're smiley.

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They're courteous. They're confident. Being happy

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on the inside, they reflect it. And they have

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nothing to fear. You see, fear is one of the

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very worst things in the world that you can take

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into your body. Fear is the worst enemy in the

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world that you can take into your mind. Fear

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is an awful thing. And the man, the woman who's

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living in adultery, constantly lives under the

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shadow of fear. Fear of being caught. No man

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can be happy, no woman can be happy if they are

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living under the shadow of fear. You can't do

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it. You cannot be happy. Big people are just

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happy because they're happy within. And they

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reflect it in everything they do. You meet them

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on the street, they're perfect strangers. But...

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They'll smile when they pass you. You've never

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seen them before. They've never seen you before.

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But when you glance up in their face, there's

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an automatic smile there. They have nothing to

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fear. They can look the whole world in the face.

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They're clean on the inside. It's only little

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people who'll treat you badly. And these are

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the people who have never really grown up. never

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mature. Something stunted that inner growth.

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They have no confidence in themselves. Not really.

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How can a person have confidence in himself when

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he knows that he's wrong in his living and wrong

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in his life? And since they're not happy within

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themselves, not confident in their own ability

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and worth as an individual, They can only see

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the world in their own reflection. As a result,

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their treatment of you is a kind of punishment

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of themselves. Do you want to know something?

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We can only love others to the extent that we

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love ourselves. Mm -hmm. By carefully observing

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how others treat you, especially strangers such

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as store clerks and salesmen and elevator operators,

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the men at the gasoline station, or the fellows

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in the garage, or the bellboys, employees of

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all kind. If you observe how they treat you,

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you can make a pretty good evaluation of what

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these people think of you, and you'll know pretty

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well what you really are like. Oh, God forbid!

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that anybody in the whole world, when they see

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me coming, would say, oh, quick, quick, quick,

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quick, run, run, run, run. Here comes Catherine

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Coleman. Oh, dear God, I would feel like I was

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the biggest failure in the whole world. If anybody,

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whether it's the little newsboy on the street,

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or whether it's the fellows in the garage who

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see me coming in, or whether it's the bellboy

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in whatever hotel I'm checking in. I tell you,

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it's the nicest feeling in the world. I feel

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like the richest person in the whole world. When

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I can get in a taxi cab, no matter whether it's

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in Los Angeles or in Pittsburgh or in New York

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or wherever it is, and the cab driver will say,

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why, that's you, Miss Kuhlman. You've just made

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my day. You know something? I could just... Honestly,

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I feel like the richest person in the world.

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When I walk across the street and the policeman

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on the corner, right in the middle of the traffic

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will walk over and say, Catherine Coleman, just

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seeing you makes me feel so good. The smile on

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your face just... I feel like it's a wonderful

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world just... seeing you, you know. When somebody,

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maybe just a newsboy, a half a block away will

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say, Hi, Catherine! And I'm just as loud and

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high back at him. Uh -huh. Or when the garbage

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collector will just rattle those old garbage

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cans a little louder. Oh, sure, I can see them

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out of the window. I've seen him empty the garbage

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cans and put the lid on and wait a little bit

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and I didn't come out. So he just takes the top

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of that garbage can and he just rambles it real

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hard. Just cause he wants me to come out and

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say, hi, how are ya? Oh, sure. Kinda makes the

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garbage smell a little sweeter, you know? It's

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like that. God forbid that anybody in the whole

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world, when they see Catherine Cooman coming,

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want to run. Mm -hmm. Sure. Oh, you can't give

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love to anyone else unless you have it on the

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inside of you. Mm -hmm. Sure, you know. People

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frequently make the mistake that when they meet

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a successful and a happy person, they're so quick

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to say, well, I'd be happy too if I had what

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he's got. You know, it's a natural tendency to

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think that his attitude is the result of his

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success. It's not like that at all. That's not

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the case. It's just the reverse. Oh, I've heard

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it. You've heard it. You may have been guilty

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of having said it. Oh, sure. If I was in their

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position, I could smile, too. Sure, if I had

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what they had, I could be happy, too. I could

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smile. Mm -hmm. But it isn't like that. When

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you see a successful person, when you see somebody

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who's happy, it isn't the money they have that

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makes them happy. No. It's the peace on the inside

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of them. Knowing you're clean, knowing you're

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right with God. having that wonderful relationship

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with him sure by their fruits jesus said ye shall

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know what's on the inside