WEBVTT 00:00:00.460 --> 00:00:03.640 Catherine Kuhlman often stated, I believe in 00:00:03.640 --> 00:00:06.440 miracles. In this informative discussion at a 00:00:06.440 --> 00:00:08.679 Melodyland conference, Miss Kuhlman shared the 00:00:08.679 --> 00:00:10.699 deepest insights of her heart on the ministry 00:00:10.699 --> 00:00:13.640 of healing. This is part one of that series. 00:00:16.820 --> 00:00:24.160 Pastor Wilkerson has probably told you that so 00:00:24.160 --> 00:00:29.429 many, many questions have come in regarding Divine 00:00:29.429 --> 00:00:32.609 Healing, the Ministry of Healing, and of course, 00:00:32.649 --> 00:00:40.170 this is a clinic. And many of you have written 00:00:40.170 --> 00:00:45.070 out your questions. Pastor Wilkerson has many 00:00:45.070 --> 00:00:48.030 of the questions now. And I want you to know 00:00:48.030 --> 00:00:53.929 something, and that is that I cannot answer all 00:00:53.929 --> 00:00:56.750 of your questions. Please know that. I make no 00:00:56.750 --> 00:01:00.149 pretense of having all the answers. Do you understand 00:01:00.149 --> 00:01:04.370 that? Before we begin, put up a hand. Now, in 00:01:04.370 --> 00:01:08.989 this clinic, you've had those who have answered 00:01:08.989 --> 00:01:12.569 questions regarding the Holy Spirit and every 00:01:12.569 --> 00:01:18.890 phase of the doctrines. But remember, I just 00:01:18.890 --> 00:01:22.450 understood this noon that you've had no open 00:01:22.450 --> 00:01:26.500 forum regarding divine healing, right? This is 00:01:26.500 --> 00:01:28.540 why we're here in this charismatic clinic, Christian 00:01:28.540 --> 00:01:31.400 Center in Anaheim. And I want to start off by 00:01:31.400 --> 00:01:33.560 just saying that a lady here declared that she 00:01:33.560 --> 00:01:36.879 said, you had no opportunity to pray and lay 00:01:36.879 --> 00:01:39.420 hands on me in Jesus' name in the service, but 00:01:39.420 --> 00:01:42.319 he knows my heart and Jesus blessed me anyway. 00:01:43.280 --> 00:01:45.739 Isn't that beautiful? Sure, because you don't 00:01:45.739 --> 00:01:50.599 need me. You don't need me to lay hands on you. 00:01:51.040 --> 00:01:54.019 That's the reason there are so many people who 00:01:54.019 --> 00:01:58.700 are healed. In their own homes. You're healed 00:01:58.700 --> 00:02:03.260 maybe doing a radio broadcast. Even now while 00:02:03.260 --> 00:02:06.400 we're answering questions. While we're discussing 00:02:06.400 --> 00:02:12.000 the word of God. Somebody listening over the 00:02:12.000 --> 00:02:15.139 radio. Who found it impossible to come to the 00:02:15.139 --> 00:02:18.550 clinic. In the first place, they knew they couldn't 00:02:18.550 --> 00:02:20.349 get in because they were packed and jammed. Are 00:02:20.349 --> 00:02:24.330 you sure you people left this place at 12 o 'clock? 00:02:25.250 --> 00:02:27.789 Some have been here since 6 this morning, Miss 00:02:27.789 --> 00:02:29.330 Gooman. Do you mean that, Ralph? I don't think 00:02:29.330 --> 00:02:30.990 someone went home last night. I think they stayed 00:02:30.990 --> 00:02:33.590 all night. And they didn't bring their sack lunch 00:02:33.590 --> 00:02:35.210 like they did yesterday. I want to check on this. 00:02:35.289 --> 00:02:37.610 Let's see. It is now a little after 2 o 'clock. 00:02:37.669 --> 00:02:40.969 All right. How many have been here since 10 o 00:02:40.969 --> 00:02:43.650 'clock this morning? Put up a hand. Well, all 00:02:43.650 --> 00:02:46.860 of you. How many have been here since 9 o 'clock 00:02:46.860 --> 00:02:51.780 for the band? Did you hear what I said? How many 00:02:51.780 --> 00:02:56.139 have been here since 8 o 'clock this month? Everybody. 00:02:57.060 --> 00:02:59.419 Creatures, let me see your hands. My goodness. 00:03:00.219 --> 00:03:03.419 That's a miracle when you can get creatures here. 00:03:05.780 --> 00:03:10.639 8 o 'clock. How many have been here since 7 .30? 00:03:10.740 --> 00:03:13.569 Let me see your hands. It's a shame this isn't 00:03:13.569 --> 00:03:15.370 on television if you would see all these hands. 00:03:16.110 --> 00:03:19.150 Are you hearing? Are you sure your microphones 00:03:19.150 --> 00:03:21.969 are working, Ralph? How many been here since 00:03:21.969 --> 00:03:24.729 7 o 'clock this morning? Put up your hands. Look 00:03:24.729 --> 00:03:29.009 at these hands since 7. How many were here at 00:03:29.009 --> 00:03:32.810 6 .30 this morning? Are you sure you're hearing 00:03:32.810 --> 00:03:36.189 me correctly? Look at those hands since 6 .30. 00:03:36.270 --> 00:03:37.710 Better ask whether they went home or not last 00:03:37.710 --> 00:03:40.629 night. Yeah. How many have been here since 6 00:03:40.629 --> 00:03:44.300 o 'clock? There are still hands going up. What 00:03:44.300 --> 00:03:47.219 time did you come? How many slept here all night? 00:03:47.240 --> 00:03:56.599 Put it in. Greg, look there. Did you honestly 00:03:56.599 --> 00:04:00.659 sleep here in this place last night? You had 00:04:00.659 --> 00:04:07.379 a camper. All of you folk who have no place to 00:04:07.379 --> 00:04:10.020 sleep tonight, sleep in their camper. It'll be 00:04:10.020 --> 00:04:17.639 all right. Ralph, when people will bring their 00:04:17.639 --> 00:04:22.019 campers and stay all night, when people will 00:04:22.019 --> 00:04:24.459 gather as early as 6 o 'clock in the morning, 00:04:24.560 --> 00:04:27.600 5 .30 in the morning, that's got to be God. They're 00:04:27.600 --> 00:04:30.160 hungry, Ms. Kuhlman. They're hungry. Excuse me 00:04:30.160 --> 00:04:37.920 before you interrupted me. Go on, Ralph. Did 00:04:37.920 --> 00:04:40.459 you ask for the ministry of healing? And when 00:04:40.459 --> 00:04:43.040 did this miraculous miracle of healing ministry 00:04:43.040 --> 00:04:47.250 start in your life? I did not ask for the miracle 00:04:47.250 --> 00:04:56.209 of healing. And there have been times you really 00:04:56.209 --> 00:05:02.649 want the answer. And there have been times that 00:05:02.649 --> 00:05:10.029 the responsibility of it has been so great that 00:05:16.459 --> 00:05:24.620 I looked up and wished that I had not received 00:05:24.620 --> 00:05:29.899 this miracle and this ministry of healing. I 00:05:29.899 --> 00:05:35.420 don't think anybody except that somebody to whom 00:05:35.420 --> 00:05:38.839 the Lord has given this terrific responsibility 00:05:38.839 --> 00:05:43.019 knows what it's like. That's what I'm trying 00:05:43.019 --> 00:05:45.870 to tell you. Now, I'll tell you how it began. 00:05:48.990 --> 00:05:52.310 You see, when I first started out, years and 00:05:52.310 --> 00:05:57.069 years and years ago, all I knew was just the 00:05:57.069 --> 00:06:02.009 new birth experience. I was so stupid. I was 00:06:02.009 --> 00:06:06.769 so stupid. I knew nothing except that I was born 00:06:06.769 --> 00:06:12.790 again and I had a wonderful conversion. My conversion... 00:06:13.959 --> 00:06:18.480 was when I was 14 years of age. It was instantaneous 00:06:18.480 --> 00:06:21.339 in this little Methodist church in Concordia, 00:06:21.339 --> 00:06:25.720 Missouri. Whether anyone was saved prior to that 00:06:25.720 --> 00:06:27.540 Sunday morning or whether there's been anyone 00:06:27.540 --> 00:06:32.379 saved since, I don't know. I have the slightest 00:06:32.379 --> 00:06:36.759 idea. It's the little tiny Methodist church. 00:06:37.379 --> 00:06:41.079 It doesn't hold any more than maybe 100 people. 00:06:42.189 --> 00:06:45.490 Grandpa was responsible in building it, and Grandpa 00:06:45.490 --> 00:06:48.730 was a Methodist. Of course, as you've heard me 00:06:48.730 --> 00:06:51.170 tell you, Grandpa thought that only Methodists 00:06:51.170 --> 00:06:53.949 would get to heaven. I'm not quite sure if Grandpa 00:06:53.949 --> 00:06:59.370 made it. I know if he did, if he found a Baptist 00:06:59.370 --> 00:07:00.850 there, I don't know whether he wanted to stay 00:07:00.850 --> 00:07:06.810 in heaven. And it was just like that. And all 00:07:06.810 --> 00:07:11.300 I knew was the new birth experience. And you 00:07:11.300 --> 00:07:18.100 know something? That Sunday morning, holding 00:07:18.100 --> 00:07:20.699 the Methodist hymnal in my hand, a 14 -year -old 00:07:20.699 --> 00:07:26.459 girl, and they were singing the last song. I 00:07:26.459 --> 00:07:28.279 cannot tell you who the preacher was. I had no 00:07:28.279 --> 00:07:32.699 idea. I knew nothing about the new birth experience. 00:07:33.600 --> 00:07:36.480 And they were singing the last hymn, and this 00:07:36.480 --> 00:07:39.160 was my first experience with the Holy Spirit, 00:07:39.180 --> 00:07:44.410 but I didn't know it. I began... See, I didn't 00:07:44.410 --> 00:07:47.689 recognize it then until years later. I began 00:07:47.689 --> 00:07:52.829 to shake with the power of God. With the hymnal 00:07:52.829 --> 00:07:59.750 in my hand, I began to shake. I'd never seen 00:07:59.750 --> 00:08:02.730 the manifestation of God's power. I could not 00:08:02.730 --> 00:08:05.610 hold that Methodist hymnal in my hand. I couldn't 00:08:05.610 --> 00:08:11.860 hold it. I shook from head to foot. I laid the 00:08:11.860 --> 00:08:14.079 Methodist hymnal down in that little Methodist 00:08:14.079 --> 00:08:17.540 church, and I did the only thing that I knew 00:08:17.540 --> 00:08:20.879 what to do. I'd seen them take in members. I 00:08:20.879 --> 00:08:23.600 laid it down because I shook so I couldn't hold 00:08:23.600 --> 00:08:26.459 it, and I walked to the front pew and sat down. 00:08:27.480 --> 00:08:32.100 And in that moment, that experience, that wonderful 00:08:32.100 --> 00:08:38.240 experience, and I began to cry. I began to sob. 00:08:39.269 --> 00:08:42.250 The tears ran, and my nose ran, and they've both 00:08:42.250 --> 00:08:46.350 been running ever since. And then that moment, 00:08:46.429 --> 00:08:48.730 one of the old Methodist sisters came around, 00:08:48.830 --> 00:08:51.029 and she didn't know what was going on. And she 00:08:51.029 --> 00:08:53.210 came and sat arm beside me. She put her arm around 00:08:53.210 --> 00:08:55.730 me, and she said, Oh, Catherine, you've been 00:08:55.730 --> 00:08:58.669 such a good girl. And we both knew she was lying. 00:08:59.110 --> 00:09:02.570 We both knew. Because if anything happened in 00:09:02.570 --> 00:09:04.549 Concordia, I made it happen. It was just like 00:09:04.549 --> 00:09:09.629 that, you know. And when I began preaching, all 00:09:09.629 --> 00:09:11.809 I could preach was the new birth experience. 00:09:12.809 --> 00:09:15.330 Because no one can give to anyone else any more 00:09:15.330 --> 00:09:17.389 than they have experienced themselves. You know 00:09:17.389 --> 00:09:21.129 that. Don't try it. You cannot give to anyone 00:09:21.129 --> 00:09:23.470 else any more than you have experienced yourself. 00:09:23.669 --> 00:09:31.090 You can't do it. Then came the day. Came the 00:09:31.090 --> 00:09:36.169 time when I knew. divine healing was in the Bible. 00:09:36.269 --> 00:09:45.190 I knew it. I knew it. This was an experience. 00:09:45.870 --> 00:09:53.809 It is very real to me. I went to a tent meeting. 00:09:54.929 --> 00:09:57.129 You really want me to take the lid off of my 00:09:57.129 --> 00:10:10.080 heart? And I sat back and I watched. I may not 00:10:10.080 --> 00:10:12.480 have much of an education, but I'm not stupid. 00:10:15.179 --> 00:10:20.620 And there's some things that I knew. I knew I 00:10:20.620 --> 00:10:28.299 could see why. I could not believe that that 00:10:28.299 --> 00:10:33.220 was my wonderful Jesus. And I walked out, and 00:10:33.220 --> 00:10:41.419 I cried. I cried. That whole night, I cried the 00:10:41.419 --> 00:10:48.179 next day. I just cried. And all I could say was 00:10:48.179 --> 00:10:50.539 they've taken away my Lord and I know not where 00:10:50.539 --> 00:10:53.980 they've laid him. I don't know why I kept saying 00:10:53.980 --> 00:10:56.639 it and saying it. I knew it was in the Bible. 00:10:58.139 --> 00:11:03.360 And yet I could not feel the witness of my Lord. 00:11:07.179 --> 00:11:16.279 It was about two weeks later when I was preaching 00:11:16.279 --> 00:11:22.120 one Monday night and somebody stood up and said, 00:11:22.220 --> 00:11:25.580 Miss Cooman, may I say something? And I said, 00:11:25.600 --> 00:11:29.539 yes. And the woman said, and this is the very 00:11:29.539 --> 00:11:34.960 first, and the woman said, you know, while you 00:11:34.960 --> 00:11:41.730 were preaching, Last night, I was healed. I stopped 00:11:41.730 --> 00:11:45.889 and I said, would you repeat that? She said, 00:11:45.970 --> 00:11:51.029 while you were preaching last night, I was healed. 00:11:53.070 --> 00:11:55.149 I said, where were you? And she told me exactly 00:11:55.149 --> 00:11:57.570 where she was sitting. And from where I am standing 00:11:57.570 --> 00:12:01.669 now, she was sitting over here in this part of 00:12:01.669 --> 00:12:05.389 the auditorium. It was an old Billy Sunday tabernacle. 00:12:06.379 --> 00:12:10.440 And she was sitting in there. And I was so amazed 00:12:10.440 --> 00:12:13.059 and I said, now remember, I was not praying for 00:12:13.059 --> 00:12:20.059 the sick. I was not praying for the sick. Only 00:12:20.059 --> 00:12:25.220 this terrific hunger within me. I was seeking 00:12:25.220 --> 00:12:33.879 myself. She said, I was so sure that I was healed. 00:12:34.759 --> 00:12:37.240 that I went to my doctor today and it was a tumor. 00:12:37.899 --> 00:12:42.299 I was so sure I was healed that I went to my 00:12:42.299 --> 00:12:47.159 doctor today and she said he examined me and 00:12:47.159 --> 00:12:52.240 there's no tumor there whatsoever. That was the 00:12:52.240 --> 00:13:02.120 first healing after God anointed me with the 00:13:02.120 --> 00:13:04.429 Holy Spirit. for the healing of sick bodies. 00:13:06.710 --> 00:13:11.990 Does that answer the question? Here's a good 00:13:11.990 --> 00:13:15.610 one. They want to know why some people fall under 00:13:15.610 --> 00:13:17.649 the power, why some don't, and what's the scripture 00:13:17.649 --> 00:13:21.169 validity for this? That's a good one. You've 00:13:21.169 --> 00:13:24.950 been asked that before? A thousand times. Yes, 00:13:24.950 --> 00:13:34.179 I imagine. You know, uh... When it comes to the 00:13:34.179 --> 00:13:38.740 power of God, why do people, and this is always 00:13:38.740 --> 00:13:41.399 so amusing. Somebody coming in for the very first 00:13:41.399 --> 00:13:43.820 time, they said, my word, everybody in the place 00:13:43.820 --> 00:13:50.039 fainted. And somebody says she hypnotizes them. 00:13:52.000 --> 00:13:55.620 Why is it that folk go under the power, even 00:13:55.620 --> 00:13:59.419 doing a radio broadcast or doing a telecast? 00:14:00.639 --> 00:14:05.139 I'm not near them. They're all alone. How can 00:14:05.139 --> 00:14:08.940 it be that when there's 7 ,000 people packed 00:14:08.940 --> 00:14:13.019 in a great auditorium as the shrine, and folk 00:14:13.019 --> 00:14:15.940 way up there in that top row in the balcony, 00:14:16.320 --> 00:14:19.179 and, you know, it's pretty high up there when 00:14:19.179 --> 00:14:21.399 people had to bring their binoculars, you know, 00:14:21.419 --> 00:14:27.159 and look down, and they can scarcely see me up 00:14:27.159 --> 00:14:31.220 there, and yet... You'll find them going under 00:14:31.220 --> 00:14:34.740 the power up there. You'll find them being filled 00:14:34.740 --> 00:14:39.279 with the Holy Spirit up there. Remember, this 00:14:39.279 --> 00:14:44.539 is a supernatural power. If I had the answer, 00:14:44.799 --> 00:14:48.720 I would tell you. I can only tell you it's supernatural. 00:14:49.600 --> 00:14:52.700 But you remember it's scriptural. And remember 00:14:52.700 --> 00:14:57.899 something. If I say one thing. and the Bible 00:14:57.899 --> 00:15:01.860 says another, the Bible is right. Always remember 00:15:01.860 --> 00:15:06.340 that. If your preacher preaches one thing and 00:15:06.340 --> 00:15:09.940 the Bible says another, the Bible is right. If 00:15:09.940 --> 00:15:12.919 your preacher tells you one thing, if your priest 00:15:12.919 --> 00:15:15.600 tells you one thing, if the rabbi tells you one 00:15:15.600 --> 00:15:19.120 thing and the Bible says another, the Bible is 00:15:19.120 --> 00:15:30.230 right. Always know that. Always know that. never 00:15:30.230 --> 00:15:35.549 go beyond the word of God. Don't add to God's 00:15:35.549 --> 00:15:41.470 word. It's very easy to add to the word of God. 00:15:41.529 --> 00:15:43.710 We talk about these people who are taking away 00:15:43.710 --> 00:15:51.370 from the word of God. Cold formalism. We talk 00:15:51.370 --> 00:15:53.950 about those who deny the deity and divinity of 00:15:53.950 --> 00:15:57.610 Jesus Christ. They take away. They take the penknife. 00:15:57.960 --> 00:16:02.940 and and take out but remember something it can 00:16:02.940 --> 00:16:07.460 be just a disastrous to add to the word of god 00:16:07.460 --> 00:16:12.840 and go beyond that which is scripture so be careful 00:16:12.840 --> 00:16:18.840 don't add to whatever you do it's easy oh isn't 00:16:18.840 --> 00:16:21.720 this glorious isn't this wonderful let's add 00:16:21.720 --> 00:16:29.110 a little more Here is the scripture. This is 00:16:29.110 --> 00:16:33.049 not something new. When you come to these services 00:16:33.049 --> 00:16:36.049 and you see people falling under the power, this 00:16:36.049 --> 00:16:39.970 isn't something new. You know who could stand 00:16:39.970 --> 00:16:47.350 here today and tell us all about it? Oh, I wish 00:16:47.350 --> 00:16:52.840 I could bring Paul and say, Paul. Somebody's 00:16:52.840 --> 00:16:55.419 asked the question, they want to know, what about 00:16:55.419 --> 00:16:58.240 this falling under the power? Oh, he said, I'll 00:16:58.240 --> 00:17:00.100 never forget the first time I went under the 00:17:00.100 --> 00:17:06.900 power. I'll never forget the first time I went 00:17:06.900 --> 00:17:08.859 under the power. How many can say the same thing? 00:17:08.940 --> 00:17:10.819 Put up a hand. Yeah, some of you went under the 00:17:10.819 --> 00:17:14.880 power for the first time today, too. Oh, he said 00:17:14.880 --> 00:17:17.519 it was glorious. Well, Paul, when did it happen? 00:17:18.480 --> 00:17:20.609 Well... I'll tell you what happened. It happened 00:17:20.609 --> 00:17:24.089 on the road to Damascus. I'll tell you exactly. 00:17:24.650 --> 00:17:29.369 Well, did somebody hypnotize you? No. Nobody 00:17:29.369 --> 00:17:33.730 touched me. How do you explain it? He said, I 00:17:33.730 --> 00:17:36.109 don't know. But he said, I'll give you the account 00:17:36.109 --> 00:17:39.970 of it. Oh, he said, let me read it. Let me read 00:17:39.970 --> 00:17:45.680 it. That ninth chapter of Acts and Saul. Yet 00:17:45.680 --> 00:17:48.799 breathing out threatenings and slaughter against 00:17:48.799 --> 00:17:51.180 the disciples of the Lord, went in the high priest 00:17:51.180 --> 00:17:54.940 and desired of him letters to Damascus, to the 00:17:54.940 --> 00:18:00.180 synagogues, that if he found any of this way, 00:18:00.259 --> 00:18:04.740 whether they were men or women, he might bring 00:18:04.740 --> 00:18:10.819 them bound unto Jerusalem. Watch. And as he journeyed, 00:18:10.819 --> 00:18:15.950 he came near Damascus, and suddenly... There 00:18:15.950 --> 00:18:19.190 shined round about him a light from heaven. And 00:18:19.190 --> 00:18:23.210 you know what happened? And he fell to the earth. 00:18:23.269 --> 00:18:27.930 He went on the power. Just like that, he went 00:18:27.930 --> 00:18:31.630 on the power. This going on the power isn't something 00:18:31.630 --> 00:18:35.789 new. Oh, you talk about Ms. Cooman's ministry 00:18:35.789 --> 00:18:41.130 and they all go on the power. Why, believe me, 00:18:41.309 --> 00:18:46.539 I don't have a corner. On the slaying power of 00:18:46.539 --> 00:18:49.019 God? I don't have that corner on the slaying 00:18:49.019 --> 00:18:53.420 power of the Holy Spirit. It happened way back 00:18:53.420 --> 00:19:00.019 there. And Paul went under the power. And I tell 00:19:00.019 --> 00:19:02.799 you, there wasn't anybody there to pick him up 00:19:02.799 --> 00:19:07.440 either. Mr. Bennett wasn't there. Red Dolan wasn't 00:19:07.440 --> 00:19:09.000 there. There wasn't anybody there to catch him, 00:19:09.019 --> 00:19:11.680 you know. And that was a lawful. He was sitting 00:19:11.680 --> 00:19:18.119 on top of a horse probably. And the amazing thing 00:19:18.119 --> 00:19:19.900 is when the power of God, nobody ever gets hurt. 00:19:21.680 --> 00:19:27.799 And watch, he fell to the earth and heard a voice 00:19:27.799 --> 00:19:33.819 saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest 00:19:33.819 --> 00:19:37.799 thou me? And he said, who art thou, Lord? And 00:19:37.799 --> 00:19:42.099 the amazing thing, he knew it was the Lord. That 00:19:42.099 --> 00:19:45.339 was the amazing thing. He called him by name. 00:19:46.730 --> 00:19:50.569 Who art he knew? It was supernatural. He knew 00:19:50.569 --> 00:19:53.210 it was the power of the Lord. He knew who it 00:19:53.210 --> 00:20:01.750 was. I'll tell you. Yeah. And he said, watch. 00:20:02.670 --> 00:20:08.069 The Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest. 00:20:08.930 --> 00:20:13.849 It is hard for thee to kick against the pricks. 00:20:15.179 --> 00:20:19.339 And he trembly. Oh, that's wonderful. He's still 00:20:19.339 --> 00:20:23.119 on the power. And he trembling. Shake him, good 00:20:23.119 --> 00:20:25.259 Lord. Shake him good. You got him now. Shake 00:20:25.259 --> 00:20:32.779 him. And he trembling and astonished. He was 00:20:32.779 --> 00:20:35.640 astonished. Haven't you seen some of these people 00:20:35.640 --> 00:20:38.900 get up from under the power? So astonished, what 00:20:38.900 --> 00:20:44.890 happened to me? And astonished said. Lord, what 00:20:44.890 --> 00:20:48.289 wilt thou have me to do? He got the whole thing 00:20:48.289 --> 00:20:52.509 in a hurry, you know it? He sure did. And the 00:20:52.509 --> 00:20:58.329 Lord said, Watch. Arise. Get up. He didn't have 00:20:58.329 --> 00:21:00.109 Red to pick him up. He didn't have Mr. Bennett 00:21:00.109 --> 00:21:03.109 to pick him up. He didn't. Get up. He's still 00:21:03.109 --> 00:21:09.890 out on the power. Get up. Come on. Arise. And 00:21:09.890 --> 00:21:12.940 go in the city. and it shall be told thee what 00:21:12.940 --> 00:21:19.900 thou must do. And remember, when the soldiers 00:21:19.900 --> 00:21:25.859 came to take Jesus, what happened? They all fell 00:21:25.859 --> 00:21:33.519 under the power. Understand something. I still 00:21:33.519 --> 00:21:38.079 believe, now this is my part of the answer. I'll 00:21:38.079 --> 00:21:40.730 give you the scripture. How many see that it's 00:21:40.730 --> 00:21:42.349 scriptural, going under power? Put it behind. 00:21:43.269 --> 00:21:47.369 It's scriptural. It's there. Uh -huh. If you 00:21:47.369 --> 00:21:50.789 don't believe it, you call Paul down. He'll verify 00:21:50.789 --> 00:21:56.769 it. And if you still don't believe it, as soon 00:21:56.769 --> 00:21:58.529 as you get home to glory, look him up and ask 00:21:58.529 --> 00:22:03.750 him about it. You'll be convinced. But this is 00:22:03.750 --> 00:22:07.859 the way I feel about the power of God. These 00:22:07.859 --> 00:22:10.380 old bodies of ours, do you know that this is 00:22:10.380 --> 00:22:16.279 still corruption? These bodies. Our redemption 00:22:16.279 --> 00:22:20.779 will not be perfected until we stand in his glorious 00:22:20.779 --> 00:22:23.259 presence. We're redeemed now. Do you understand 00:22:23.259 --> 00:22:27.259 that? We're redeemed now, beloved. Have we passed 00:22:27.259 --> 00:22:29.920 from death and life? Now are we the sons of God. 00:22:30.000 --> 00:22:33.420 Now we're his heirs and joint heirs with Christ 00:22:33.420 --> 00:22:39.400 Jesus. But our redemption is not perfected until 00:22:39.400 --> 00:22:42.539 we stand in his glorious presence and this which 00:22:42.539 --> 00:22:46.420 is mortal will have put on immortality. These 00:22:46.420 --> 00:22:49.200 bodies are still corruption. They go back to 00:22:49.200 --> 00:22:53.680 the earth from whence they came. And that which 00:22:53.680 --> 00:22:58.799 is still corruption is not geared for so much 00:22:58.799 --> 00:23:04.319 power. It's not geared for glory. That's the 00:23:04.319 --> 00:23:06.039 reason with all this glory I talk to you about 00:23:06.039 --> 00:23:09.539 being filled with the Holy Spirit. And yet, there 00:23:09.539 --> 00:23:13.359 is so much of the power of God that my own body, 00:23:13.619 --> 00:23:18.059 this which is flesh, can only stand just so much 00:23:18.059 --> 00:23:22.559 of the power. And then, beloved, it can't take 00:23:22.559 --> 00:23:27.519 anymore. And down it goes. How many understand 00:23:27.519 --> 00:23:32.730 that? Put up a hand. You cannot. When you see 00:23:32.730 --> 00:23:37.289 a big 200 -pound man, when you see a man 225 00:23:37.289 --> 00:23:44.130 pounds hit the floor with a crash, with a bang, 00:23:44.269 --> 00:23:50.849 and you know that that man is doing everything. 00:23:52.349 --> 00:23:57.650 Oh, but the nicest thing is to see some little 00:23:57.650 --> 00:24:14.049 prissy woman. You know, I still say that God 00:24:14.049 --> 00:24:17.309 has a sense of humor. I believe that. I've watched 00:24:17.309 --> 00:24:22.390 it. I still, you'll never make me believe that 00:24:22.390 --> 00:24:26.289 God doesn't have a sense of humor. And I've seen 00:24:26.289 --> 00:24:33.210 them. There. Every. Well, I'll tell you the funniest 00:24:33.210 --> 00:24:34.970 thing I ever saw was a woman's wig just fall 00:24:34.970 --> 00:24:45.650 right off of her head. That's one thing they 00:24:45.650 --> 00:24:47.329 didn't have in the early church that we've got. 00:24:52.450 --> 00:24:58.250 And sometimes the most unlikely people. The most... 00:24:58.250 --> 00:25:02.849 And I just kind of think the angels are smiling, 00:25:02.869 --> 00:25:07.349 you know. And the most wonderful thing is, I'll 00:25:07.349 --> 00:25:11.269 tell you a secret. After you have felt the power 00:25:11.269 --> 00:25:15.329 of God, After you've gone under power, you're 00:25:15.329 --> 00:25:21.589 never quite the same again. Never. Ralph, there's 00:25:21.589 --> 00:25:26.990 something about it. I can tell you. You are never 00:25:26.990 --> 00:25:35.410 quite the same again. You see, I mean, this is 00:25:35.410 --> 00:25:39.450 the way I feel about it. You become so personal 00:25:39.450 --> 00:25:43.119 to him. It isn't that you have to go down in 00:25:43.119 --> 00:25:49.720 the power to feel personal to him. But it's when 00:25:49.720 --> 00:25:58.019 the power of God strikes you. Along with it, 00:25:58.019 --> 00:26:06.180 there's love. It's just like he folds you close 00:26:06.180 --> 00:26:14.099 to his heart. And you're never quite the same 00:26:14.099 --> 00:26:21.000 again. I cannot give you the full answer. There 00:26:21.000 --> 00:26:24.880 may be much more than I'm telling you. But I'm 00:26:24.880 --> 00:26:28.299 only telling you what I know. How many understand? 00:26:28.519 --> 00:26:35.200 Put up a hand. Uh -huh. That's why they go under 00:26:35.200 --> 00:26:39.900 power. You don't need me to touch you. You don't 00:26:39.900 --> 00:26:45.940 need me to lay hands on you. But it's as real 00:26:45.940 --> 00:26:51.240 as the air that you breathe. Thank you, Miss 00:26:51.240 --> 00:26:52.660 Cooman. I'm going to tell them the first time 00:26:52.660 --> 00:26:55.440 I visited you in Pittsburgh, I was in the audience 00:26:55.440 --> 00:26:58.799 as a stranger. And a lady fell over on me three 00:26:58.799 --> 00:27:06.190 times. You didn't touch her. I finally kept propping 00:27:06.190 --> 00:27:07.789 her up, and I was a little bit embarrassed. I 00:27:07.789 --> 00:27:09.369 turned to my wife. I said, honey, she can't help 00:27:09.369 --> 00:27:19.769 it. I want to ask something just now. On this 00:27:19.769 --> 00:27:22.009 platform, this is filled with ministers. How 00:27:22.009 --> 00:27:25.670 many for the very first time went under the power 00:27:25.670 --> 00:27:29.970 of God today? Let me see your hand. Stand up. 00:27:30.750 --> 00:27:34.420 Stand up. Stand up. Stand up for the very first 00:27:34.420 --> 00:27:38.299 time. Will you do something? Will you do something 00:27:38.299 --> 00:27:42.059 in just one sentence? Pass this microphone over 00:27:42.059 --> 00:27:45.200 here and tell what the sensation was like with 00:27:45.200 --> 00:27:47.880 your mind in just one sentence. Come on. Come 00:27:47.880 --> 00:27:50.819 on. These ministers, all right? It's awfully 00:27:50.819 --> 00:27:53.660 hard to find the words. It's just that just flood 00:27:53.660 --> 00:27:55.160 your heart with love. I think that's the best 00:27:55.160 --> 00:28:08.000 expression. I just felt enveloped by the love 00:28:08.000 --> 00:28:12.079 of Jesus. That's right. Enveloped by the love 00:28:12.079 --> 00:28:16.299 of Jesus. That's it. Come on. I felt that God 00:28:16.299 --> 00:28:18.720 was more personal when he'd ever had been before. 00:28:19.059 --> 00:28:23.220 I believe that. That's right. Come on. I just 00:28:23.220 --> 00:28:28.799 felt released in him. Released in him. Now, hear 00:28:28.799 --> 00:28:36.210 this. This is a wonderful thing. A full release. 00:28:37.230 --> 00:28:41.769 I know. I know it's the power of the Holy Spirit 00:28:41.769 --> 00:28:44.450 that goes through. Oh, I know. Let him go with 00:28:44.450 --> 00:28:53.569 it, Pharaoh. This is something you can't explain, 00:28:53.650 --> 00:28:56.190 but it's marvelous. There was a melting of the 00:28:56.190 --> 00:29:03.750 coldness that kept me from Jesus. I know. I know. 00:29:05.289 --> 00:29:12.250 and that fresh baptism of the love of God. I'm 00:29:12.250 --> 00:29:20.329 a Pentecostal minister, but this is the first 00:29:20.329 --> 00:29:23.369 time I've fallen under the power, and I just 00:29:23.369 --> 00:29:25.910 felt so totally involved that I couldn't stand 00:29:25.910 --> 00:29:30.769 up. I didn't lose consciousness, but I felt so 00:29:30.769 --> 00:29:33.269 involved in everything that was happening that 00:29:33.269 --> 00:29:39.980 I couldn't stand up. And Father, what he is expressing, 00:29:40.160 --> 00:29:45.819 I pray that every minister behind that sacred 00:29:45.819 --> 00:29:53.759 desk shall know. I just felt closer to Jesus 00:29:53.759 --> 00:29:56.079 than I'd ever felt before in my life. That's 00:29:56.079 --> 00:29:59.500 right. Closer to him, it makes him more personal. 00:29:59.740 --> 00:30:03.299 And it's something you can't explain. Yes. Come 00:30:03.299 --> 00:30:13.019 on, God bless you. Something happened, and I 00:30:13.019 --> 00:30:15.980 know it was for real. Something happened, and 00:30:15.980 --> 00:30:18.339 I know it was for real. Give him a great big 00:30:18.339 --> 00:30:29.180 God bless you. Well, you had prayed for me once 00:30:29.180 --> 00:30:31.220 before, and I felt this tremendous charge on 00:30:31.220 --> 00:30:34.619 me today. After she prayed, I was kneeling there, 00:30:34.779 --> 00:30:36.799 and these fellows were right there, and when 00:30:36.799 --> 00:30:39.160 they put their hands on me too, The tremendous 00:30:39.160 --> 00:30:42.000 presence of the Lord really came on me, and I 00:30:42.000 --> 00:30:44.339 just praise him for it. Thank you, Jesus. And 00:30:44.339 --> 00:30:47.579 you can't describe it? No, no. It's just, well, 00:30:47.640 --> 00:30:49.240 it's kind of like an electrical charge. You're 00:30:49.240 --> 00:30:52.759 aware. I'll say it's a charge, all right. I'll 00:30:52.759 --> 00:30:57.339 tell you. Dear Jesus, I thank you for the power 00:30:57.339 --> 00:31:03.140 of the Holy Spirit. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks. Come 00:31:03.140 --> 00:31:08.990 on. I praise God today. It was an opportunity 00:31:08.990 --> 00:31:13.109 for me to empty myself. It is not I, but it is 00:31:13.109 --> 00:31:32.210 Christ in me. Hallelujah. Hey. All I know is 00:31:32.210 --> 00:31:35.490 that... Through this clinic and through the meeting 00:31:35.490 --> 00:31:37.750 today with Jesus Christ and through this encounter 00:31:37.750 --> 00:31:41.009 Mrs. Kuhlman that the Lord just I'm just beginning 00:31:41.009 --> 00:31:43.849 to realize that I can't limit the Lord he can 00:31:43.849 --> 00:31:45.589 do anything he wants to do with me and I'm ready 00:31:45.589 --> 00:31:51.490 and Yeah, yeah, and I just praise him for his 00:31:51.490 --> 00:31:55.190 touch in my life today. We're ready We're ready 00:32:03.339 --> 00:32:05.839 Take this one, take this one, take this one, 00:32:05.859 --> 00:32:08.579 take this one. Ooh, I know who it is right now, 00:32:08.619 --> 00:32:10.480 the power of God going through his body. The 00:32:10.480 --> 00:32:29.599 power of... Shh. Shh. We're going through the 00:32:29.599 --> 00:32:33.789 clinic. I thought we were going into another 00:32:33.789 --> 00:32:38.369 miracle service at the shrine, Ms. Kuhlman. Dear 00:32:38.369 --> 00:32:43.309 Lord, taste it like they use it. God bless thee 00:32:43.309 --> 00:32:47.349 shall be a falling. This shall be the beginning 00:32:47.349 --> 00:32:51.930 of one of the greatest miracles. Use it for your 00:32:51.930 --> 00:32:57.970 glory. Glory? Oui. This is glory, you know it? 00:32:59.089 --> 00:33:02.309 All right, come on with questions. Why is it 00:33:02.309 --> 00:33:08.450 that a sinner gets his healing and a saint sometimes 00:33:08.450 --> 00:33:13.230 doesn't? Well, sometimes I think we think some 00:33:13.230 --> 00:33:20.130 folks are saints who aren't. You know something? 00:33:20.670 --> 00:33:23.730 I've learned this a long time ago. There are 00:33:23.730 --> 00:33:27.930 an awful lot of people who put on an awful good 00:33:27.930 --> 00:33:36.180 front. when they go out of the house. But when 00:33:36.180 --> 00:33:39.740 the doors are closed and the blinds are drawn, 00:33:39.980 --> 00:33:47.200 they're devils. Yes, ma 'am. It's just like that. 00:33:48.980 --> 00:33:56.319 You ask the question why so many good people's 00:33:56.319 --> 00:34:06.019 children turn out bad. You know, Ralph, you have 00:34:06.019 --> 00:34:08.719 to really, if you're a man, have to live with 00:34:08.719 --> 00:34:15.780 a woman to know her. Amen. And you know, Mrs. 00:34:15.880 --> 00:34:19.280 Wilkerson, you really have to live with a man 00:34:19.280 --> 00:34:25.320 to know him, right? Uh -huh. And it's like that. 00:34:27.420 --> 00:34:31.579 And it's just like that. All right, there's number 00:34:31.579 --> 00:34:40.219 one. You see, you would be amazed how much spiritual 00:34:40.219 --> 00:34:46.579 pride there is in the heart of many a professing 00:34:46.579 --> 00:34:50.300 Christian. I shall never forget. I'll never. 00:34:51.260 --> 00:34:57.820 In a little town in Idaho, and this is one of 00:34:57.820 --> 00:35:00.340 my very first experiences. When I first began 00:35:00.340 --> 00:35:03.460 preaching the gospel, it was in a Methodist church 00:35:03.460 --> 00:35:08.980 in Idaho. And they asked me to preach the morning 00:35:08.980 --> 00:35:14.079 sermon. And there was an old codger in that town 00:35:14.079 --> 00:35:16.679 who was really a reprobate. Now, I'm telling 00:35:16.679 --> 00:35:18.559 you, because they told me when I first came to 00:35:18.559 --> 00:35:21.619 town. And I wasn't any more than 16 years of 00:35:21.619 --> 00:35:26.820 age. And they had gotten him to come to that 00:35:26.820 --> 00:35:33.570 morning service. I gave an altar call. When I 00:35:33.570 --> 00:35:37.389 gave that altar call, here came the old cotcher. 00:35:38.289 --> 00:35:41.650 He came down to the altar. Because my personal 00:35:41.650 --> 00:35:47.849 work in those days, if I thought there was a 00:35:47.849 --> 00:35:49.849 sinner in the place, I'd lock the doors and let 00:35:49.849 --> 00:35:56.599 him out until he got converted. And so... When 00:35:56.599 --> 00:35:59.019 we got him down the altar and God really saved 00:35:59.019 --> 00:36:02.400 him, it was glorious. When I look back on it 00:36:02.400 --> 00:36:07.340 now, I'm wondering whether he was saved and filled 00:36:07.340 --> 00:36:08.980 with the Spirit at the same time because he really 00:36:08.980 --> 00:36:10.420 got a double dose of something. I didn't even 00:36:10.420 --> 00:36:11.840 know enough about the baptism of the Holy Spirit 00:36:11.840 --> 00:36:15.159 to know. And his hands were up and he was crying 00:36:15.159 --> 00:36:20.880 and he was rejoicing. Oh, it was a glorious experience 00:36:20.880 --> 00:36:27.230 that he got. And his wife. came to the front 00:36:27.230 --> 00:36:32.090 of the church and she looked up and she said, 00:36:32.130 --> 00:36:35.809 it isn't fair. It isn't fair. It isn't fair. 00:36:37.010 --> 00:36:39.949 I've been the president of Ladies Aid for 26 00:36:39.949 --> 00:36:43.190 years and you've never done this for me. And 00:36:43.190 --> 00:36:46.010 here comes my old husband and look what you do 00:36:46.010 --> 00:36:54.539 for him. And you left me out. You see. We don't 00:36:54.539 --> 00:36:57.619 know the heart. It's still a matter of what's 00:36:57.619 --> 00:37:03.039 on the inside here. It's still inside here. Not 00:37:03.039 --> 00:37:07.159 here. That's the reason I say to you, you know, 00:37:07.300 --> 00:37:09.380 it makes no difference whether you're Catholic, 00:37:09.500 --> 00:37:10.980 whether you're Protestant, whether you're Jew, 00:37:11.079 --> 00:37:15.440 whether you're Gentile, whoever you are. It isn't 00:37:15.440 --> 00:37:17.780 your church membership. It isn't what you profess. 00:37:19.099 --> 00:37:22.099 It's still a matter of what you have on the inside 00:37:22.099 --> 00:37:27.070 of you, right in here. Here comes somebody into 00:37:27.070 --> 00:37:31.590 a service who probably hasn't been to church 00:37:31.590 --> 00:37:36.289 for 25 years. Somebody who doesn't have a lot 00:37:36.289 --> 00:37:40.269 of preconceived ideas up here. I'd give anything, 00:37:40.369 --> 00:37:46.409 so help me. I'd give anything in the world if 00:37:46.409 --> 00:37:53.969 I had the ability to take the ministers. in our 00:37:53.969 --> 00:37:59.690 nation today, take them, turn them upside down, 00:37:59.849 --> 00:38:03.929 and just shake them real good. And shake them 00:38:03.929 --> 00:38:09.130 so hard until I had all of the algae shaken out 00:38:09.130 --> 00:38:13.110 of their heads. Just shake out all. I'll tell 00:38:13.110 --> 00:38:16.530 you something about your preachers up here. I 00:38:16.530 --> 00:38:18.670 can't work on them, but I can sure work on you 00:38:18.670 --> 00:38:22.989 because you're here. And if I could just teach 00:38:22.989 --> 00:38:25.630 you. You see, you've been through seminary, and 00:38:25.630 --> 00:38:27.670 don't you think for one minute that I'm decrying 00:38:27.670 --> 00:38:32.590 education. Don't you. I'm only sorry. God bless 00:38:32.590 --> 00:38:37.190 you. I'm only sorry that I don't have a better 00:38:37.190 --> 00:38:42.010 education. For years, I suffered with that complex. 00:38:43.809 --> 00:38:48.199 For years, I've suffered with it. But sometimes 00:38:48.199 --> 00:38:51.179 I think it was a good idea he called an ignorant 00:38:51.179 --> 00:38:53.940 person. Because, you see, I don't have to hurdle 00:38:53.940 --> 00:38:55.699 all these things the two men have to hurdle. 00:38:55.780 --> 00:38:59.320 You who've been to seminaries. You see, you've 00:38:59.320 --> 00:39:03.980 been educated low these years. And you've got 00:39:03.980 --> 00:39:09.159 so much up here in your mind. So much up here. 00:39:09.780 --> 00:39:12.619 That now, and you've been so brainwashed with 00:39:12.619 --> 00:39:15.880 a lot of this stuff. that you've got to get it 00:39:15.880 --> 00:39:20.059 all out of your mind so that you can come again 00:39:20.059 --> 00:39:23.599 as a little child and come back. If I could only 00:39:23.599 --> 00:39:27.480 take it. You see, that was the reason. Sit down, 00:39:27.500 --> 00:39:33.139 Ralph. You see, that is the reason, beloved. 00:39:34.219 --> 00:39:42.960 Uh, why? Uh, the Lord said he had to put new 00:39:42.960 --> 00:39:50.150 wine. in new bottles because he couldn't take 00:39:50.150 --> 00:39:54.889 these old skin bags and fill them with the new 00:39:54.889 --> 00:39:58.250 wine. Do you understand that? Hear the scribes 00:39:58.250 --> 00:40:01.690 and the Pharisees. They knew the law. They knew 00:40:01.690 --> 00:40:06.530 the letter. They knew it well. Oh, they knew 00:40:06.530 --> 00:40:10.400 it well. They too were educated. We're not the 00:40:10.400 --> 00:40:12.539 only folks educated beyond our intelligence. 00:40:12.739 --> 00:40:15.820 They were educated. You'll talk about, they were 00:40:15.820 --> 00:40:19.280 educated. They knew the law. They knew every 00:40:19.280 --> 00:40:23.019 letter of the law. There isn't a person living 00:40:23.019 --> 00:40:26.019 today who knew the law better than they knew 00:40:26.019 --> 00:40:29.900 the law. And yet when it came to this wonderful, 00:40:29.900 --> 00:40:33.579 I pray in the Holy Spirit, when Jesus came and 00:40:33.579 --> 00:40:39.219 left the church's wonderful gift of the Holy 00:40:39.219 --> 00:40:44.699 Spirit. You see, they were so steeped in the 00:40:44.699 --> 00:40:52.119 law, mentally, they were so formed that this 00:40:52.119 --> 00:40:56.500 hardening process had so taken place that they 00:40:56.500 --> 00:41:03.420 were no longer applicable. This. And if you put 00:41:03.420 --> 00:41:11.530 this new line, you can't do it. into a bag that 00:41:11.530 --> 00:41:15.949 is hardened almost to the consistency of stone, 00:41:16.289 --> 00:41:21.690 it would burst the faith. That is the reason 00:41:21.690 --> 00:41:27.670 he knew that they were so formed in their ideas 00:41:27.670 --> 00:41:34.510 and their thinking. That's why today, back there, 00:41:34.550 --> 00:41:39.869 who did he choose? Did he choose the priests? 00:41:40.090 --> 00:41:47.349 No. He chose the most unlikely. He took the fishermen. 00:41:48.369 --> 00:41:52.429 They set the dirty hands. He's not looking on 00:41:52.429 --> 00:42:00.090 that. He was looking for pliable, yielded material. 00:42:01.389 --> 00:42:08.460 Uh -huh. Pliable, yielded material. Couldn't 00:42:08.460 --> 00:42:17.239 use the old skin bags. But he wanted yieldedness 00:42:17.239 --> 00:42:25.539 into which he could pour the new wine. And I'm 00:42:25.539 --> 00:42:36.789 frank to tell you, here's a secret. My mind is 00:42:36.789 --> 00:42:43.289 closed to everything else but what's in this 00:42:43.289 --> 00:42:52.489 word. I'm not a liberal thinker. I may look modern. 00:42:58.469 --> 00:43:09.650 You'd be surprised. Oh, don't tell me you're 00:43:09.650 --> 00:43:17.449 Catherine Cooper. A preacher. But watch. My mind 00:43:17.449 --> 00:43:25.010 is closed to everything except this word. You 00:43:25.010 --> 00:43:31.510 couldn't pay me. If somebody came and offered 00:43:31.510 --> 00:43:42.030 me $50, $50 ,000 cash to study false religions. 00:43:43.929 --> 00:43:54.809 Offer me $50 ,000 cash to take a course in psychology. 00:43:55.170 --> 00:44:01.869 I'd say you keep your money. I'm not going to 00:44:01.869 --> 00:44:06.150 endanger that which I have. You couldn't do it, 00:44:06.190 --> 00:44:12.090 you couldn't do it, you couldn't do it. I don't 00:44:12.090 --> 00:44:17.230 read everything that comes my way. I don't read 00:44:17.230 --> 00:44:21.750 everything that comes in my mailbox. You load 00:44:21.750 --> 00:44:25.369 me with books, I might just as well tell you 00:44:25.369 --> 00:44:29.309 I don't read them. I've got enough right here 00:44:29.309 --> 00:44:34.860 to do me. I've got enough right here to do me. 00:44:35.039 --> 00:44:43.039 Let me give you an example. Watch. When you take 00:44:43.039 --> 00:44:48.940 your marriage vows and you stand there and take 00:44:48.940 --> 00:44:52.980 your marriage vow and you promise to be a faithful, 00:44:53.099 --> 00:44:57.820 a loving husband to that wife of yours, that 00:44:57.820 --> 00:45:03.150 one... who's going to be your wife, brother, 00:45:03.309 --> 00:45:13.750 you close your mind to all other women. You're 00:45:13.750 --> 00:45:18.349 on dangerous ground as quickly as you open your 00:45:18.349 --> 00:45:31.730 mind. Little lady, watch something. When you 00:45:31.730 --> 00:45:34.630 take your marriage vows, marriage is a sacred 00:45:34.630 --> 00:45:40.289 thing, and when you take your marriage vows and 00:45:40.289 --> 00:45:45.110 promise to be a faithful wife to that husband, 00:45:45.369 --> 00:45:49.849 that's the reason. It's like somebody, now, well, 00:45:50.170 --> 00:45:53.550 I'll tell you, she's a nice girl. I'll marry 00:45:53.550 --> 00:45:57.070 her now, but I'll still keep looking around and 00:45:57.070 --> 00:46:02.590 playing the field. It'll never work. It'll never 00:46:02.590 --> 00:46:11.010 work. And when it comes, we are members of the 00:46:11.010 --> 00:46:16.150 Bride of Christ. He is our coming bridegroom. 00:46:18.849 --> 00:46:27.030 I stopped looking. I'm not going to get all tangled 00:46:27.030 --> 00:46:32.550 up with something that's not the Spirit. I don't 00:46:32.550 --> 00:46:35.750 have to take all kinds of things in my mind. 00:46:37.489 --> 00:46:41.289 I'm not going to look upon things that might 00:46:41.289 --> 00:46:44.570 rob me of a deeper experience with the Lord. 00:46:46.489 --> 00:46:52.010 And you'll find out, beloved, when your mind 00:46:52.010 --> 00:46:56.130 is so completely saturated with the things of 00:46:56.130 --> 00:47:02.960 God, it's a... You think it, you live it, you 00:47:02.960 --> 00:47:06.280 eat it. It's a life. This thing of being a Christian 00:47:06.280 --> 00:47:10.559 isn't something that you take off and hang it 00:47:10.559 --> 00:47:12.460 in the closet until you want it again and then 00:47:12.460 --> 00:47:18.380 put it on. It isn't like that at all. It's a 00:47:18.380 --> 00:47:25.659 day -by -day proposition. Don't you misconstrue 00:47:25.659 --> 00:47:29.530 anything that I've said today. If you do, you 00:47:29.530 --> 00:47:31.650 might go off and be a religious fanatic. I'm 00:47:31.650 --> 00:47:34.449 not talking about that. I'm not talking about 00:47:34.449 --> 00:47:40.170 that. But if there's something that is contrary 00:47:40.170 --> 00:47:50.849 to the holy word of God, burn it. Don't go out 00:47:50.849 --> 00:48:03.190 exploring. is contrary to his word. We forget 00:48:03.190 --> 00:48:08.510 this is the very word of God. He speaks to us. 00:48:08.769 --> 00:48:13.329 Do you want God to speak to you? He's speaking 00:48:13.329 --> 00:48:18.309 today through his word. This is what you need. 00:48:19.250 --> 00:48:23.190 If there's something that comes into your hands, 00:48:23.329 --> 00:48:28.019 if there's something that you know, is contrary 00:48:28.019 --> 00:48:43.260 to his word. Burn it! The mind is a delicate 00:48:43.260 --> 00:48:48.539 machinery. Be careful how you treat it. Be careful 00:48:48.539 --> 00:48:51.579 how you use it. Be careful what you do with it. 00:48:53.320 --> 00:48:58.599 A thought makes a deed. A deed makes the life, 00:48:58.780 --> 00:49:02.739 and the life brings the destiny. But it all goes 00:49:02.739 --> 00:49:08.119 back to the mind. How many understand? Put up 00:49:08.119 --> 00:49:14.800 a hand. Well. It's not too personal, Ms. Kuhlman. 00:49:15.840 --> 00:49:18.920 Could you possibly show us how you met your death? 00:49:19.380 --> 00:49:21.000 Earlier in the service, you talked about how 00:49:21.000 --> 00:49:23.760 you died. Before you answer it, may I just tell 00:49:23.760 --> 00:49:25.380 the radio audience that we're listening to Charismatic 00:49:25.380 --> 00:49:34.340 Clinic. And this is radio station KHOF 99 .5. 00:49:35.039 --> 00:49:37.039 All right, Miss Koo, we'll come back in now because 00:49:37.039 --> 00:49:38.960 I know a lot of our issues. I'll lead you around 00:49:38.960 --> 00:49:47.480 here today. Oh, my goodness. Imagine, Ralph, 00:49:47.579 --> 00:49:49.639 somebody just tuned in, you know, and they think, 00:49:49.699 --> 00:49:51.780 what in the world are we listening to, you know? 00:49:52.760 --> 00:49:57.929 Right. But isn't it great? If they're enjoying 00:49:57.929 --> 00:50:01.309 it at home or in their car, go around the freeway. 00:50:01.929 --> 00:50:04.250 If they're having a wreck on the freeway, you 00:50:04.250 --> 00:50:06.530 know what it was? They got so involved with listening 00:50:06.530 --> 00:50:12.570 to what's going around here. All right. I'll 00:50:12.570 --> 00:50:15.570 tell you how it first happened when I talked 00:50:15.570 --> 00:50:21.550 about how I can tell you where it happened. And 00:50:21.550 --> 00:50:27.889 it's something very personal. Extremely personal. 00:50:30.750 --> 00:50:43.090 It came through a great disappointment. A great 00:50:43.090 --> 00:50:50.710 disappointment. And I felt like my whole world 00:50:50.710 --> 00:50:59.960 had come to an end. You know, it's not what you 00:50:59.960 --> 00:51:03.360 do with something that happens. It's not what 00:51:03.360 --> 00:51:05.659 happens to you. It's what you do with that thing 00:51:05.659 --> 00:51:11.599 after it happens. And it goes back again to the 00:51:11.599 --> 00:51:21.179 will of the Lord. At that time, I felt that that 00:51:21.179 --> 00:51:30.760 which had happened to me, was the greatest tragedy 00:51:30.760 --> 00:51:35.719 of my life. I thought I could never rise again. 00:51:38.480 --> 00:51:48.019 Never. Never. No one will ever know. No one will 00:51:48.019 --> 00:51:52.340 ever know. If you've never died, you know what 00:51:52.340 --> 00:52:00.860 I'm talking about. I can go to the place. It 00:52:00.860 --> 00:52:04.699 was a dead end street. It was four o 'clock on 00:52:04.699 --> 00:52:11.460 a Saturday afternoon. I know the time. A dead 00:52:11.460 --> 00:52:18.900 end street. I felt I had come to a dead end in 00:52:18.900 --> 00:52:29.300 my life. You know, sometimes it's a thousand. 00:52:30.760 --> 00:52:35.380 Times easier to die physically than to keep on 00:52:35.380 --> 00:52:50.500 living. A thousand times easier. To in that moment, 00:52:50.840 --> 00:52:58.500 have your old heart take its last speech. You 00:52:58.500 --> 00:53:02.300 know - born again, you know you belong to him. 00:53:06.219 --> 00:53:11.679 It would be the easiest thing in the world if 00:53:11.679 --> 00:53:15.599 he would just lay a hand on the old heart and 00:53:15.599 --> 00:53:24.539 not let it beat again. It would be so wonderful 00:53:24.539 --> 00:53:27.719 in that moment if he would just have the angel 00:53:27.719 --> 00:53:32.179 stick. He would just pick you up because you 00:53:32.179 --> 00:53:39.320 know you belong to him you know you're his child 00:53:39.320 --> 00:53:43.519 and you know that the old heart would take his 00:53:43.519 --> 00:53:47.380 last beat and you know that the angels came to 00:53:47.380 --> 00:53:50.780 taste that you'd be in his presence there's no 00:53:50.780 --> 00:53:54.739 uncertainty about that and it'd be so easy it'd 00:53:54.739 --> 00:54:01.449 be so wonderful There'd be no more criticism. 00:54:02.469 --> 00:54:06.769 There'd be no more misunderstanding. You see, 00:54:06.929 --> 00:54:14.030 the Lord forgives, but people don't. We stay 00:54:14.030 --> 00:54:20.989 about little children. Children can be so unkind 00:54:20.989 --> 00:54:24.349 and so thoughtful on the playground, you know. 00:54:26.309 --> 00:54:32.530 But I'll tell you, it's a... else it would be 00:54:32.530 --> 00:54:37.829 much better if you just take a gun pull the trigger 00:54:37.829 --> 00:54:45.769 and kill that one rather than to take the sword 00:54:45.769 --> 00:54:49.989 of the spirit and this is what christians will 00:54:49.989 --> 00:54:55.170 do they use it not for healing they use it not 00:54:55.170 --> 00:54:59.760 in mercy they use it not with compassion but 00:54:59.760 --> 00:55:03.500 they take it and they use it as a sword and they'll 00:55:03.500 --> 00:55:07.199 drive it in and they'll drive it in and they'll 00:55:07.199 --> 00:55:12.360 drive it in and they'll drive it in and they'll 00:55:12.360 --> 00:55:16.460 drive it in and they'll pierce your heart and 00:55:16.460 --> 00:55:26.940 they'll pierce it clear through it's much easier 00:55:26.940 --> 00:55:38.309 to Guy and Delia. The end of that Aryan street 00:55:38.309 --> 00:55:46.570 is when I died four o 'clock on a Saturday afternoon. 00:55:53.170 --> 00:56:04.780 Today, I feel it was a part of God's perfect 00:56:04.780 --> 00:56:06.079 will for my life.