is not the same manifestation of the Spirit needed
in our denominational churches today, and you
say it is, but how can we get it into these churches,
and how can this happen? Now remember, of this
ministry, of praying for the sick, there's a
plan in God's Word for the church. Call for the
elders of the church. Anointing them with oil.
And the prayer of faith shall save the sick.
I wouldn't have a man on my board. I wouldn't
have a deacon. I wouldn't have an elder. Now
we get into some deep things. I could talk like
this because I don't have a church. It was never
in the plan of God. Never. I'd be completely
out of the will of the Lord if I were to build
a church. That's not my calling. That is not
my ministry. Very definitely it is not. Understand
that. If I would go off and build a church, Reverend
Mr. Wilkerson is a pastor. He's a pastor. Now,
back home in Pittsburgh, there are literally
hundreds of people who call me a pastor. But
I don't have a church. You understand? I have
never. And I'll tell you why. I, Carnegie Rector
on our side, is a city -owned building. The Carnegie
Music Hall, we rent that. The Stambaugh Auditorium,
we rent that. Wherever I go, I take civic auditoriums.
Because that is my ministry. And in ready these
auditoriums, then I get everybody, I get people
who do not feel free to attend a church. People
who haven't been in church in years and years
will come to a public auditorium. And then I
go fishing. Do you understand that? Yeah. And
so, even though some may call me a pastor, instead
of building a church here in the United States,
this ministry has built... 21 mission stations
on foreign fields. I built all my churches on
foreign fields. How many think that's a good
idea? And it's just like that. But would it be
something if everybody built their churches on
foreign fields? That's the reason we thank God
for Pastor Wilkerson. And we thank our God for
the pastors here. That is a part of God's great
plan. But I was never called to be a pastor.
Never. Never. God has certain work for certain
individuals. Certain colleagues. I've been asked
over and over again, why, Ms. Coleman, why do
you think that Billy Graham doesn't pray for
the sick? Is it a lack of spirituality? A thousand
times no. Don't you ever question his spirituality
because he doesn't pray for the sick. That is
his ministry. Don't you ever. There are those
who'd be quick to say if he were more spiritual.
Don't you dare. I cannot feel his shoes and neither
can he feel my shoes. His ministry is a ministry
of salvation. How many understand that? Put up
a hand. His calling is one thing. My calling
is another. God has given me this ministry. Whatever
it is, I wonder myself, what is it? Whatever
it is, Rel, but for every pastor in the country
to try to either imitate Billy Graham or to imitate
me, you may be out of the will of God in doing
so. How many understand that? Put it by hand.
And it's like that. You dare not get anyone on
your board. unless that one is in perfect harmony
and unity with you. If I had a church, if I was
a pastor, I would not have a man serving on the
board who was not in one accord with me. I'd
get rid of that man so fast you wouldn't see
him. I don't care what influence he has. That
is one of the secrets, if I could tell you, if
I could only tell you. How can I say? There is
a secret in oneness in the spirit. There has
got to be a oneness in the spirit. There has
got to be. It's got to be. It's got to be. It's
just got to be. It's just got to be. One man
can throw a monkey wrench in the whole thing.
One man can read the Holy Spirit. Rap as long
as you have men on your board. As long as you
have men working with you. For in oneness of
the Spirit with you, there's no limit to what
God will do for you. What's the very second you
get somebody in who'll throw a monkey wrench
in the thing? Because, you see, the Holy Spirit
is easily grieved. I don't think any of you know
how sensitive the Holy Spirit is. When in the
Bible, he's likened unto a dove. The gentlest
of all birds. I wish I could tell you. That's
the reason you may feel that I'm very strict
in this service. Because I don't allow certain
things. It isn't me. Whispering. When people
are talking. Two people are talking. It can breathe
the Holy Spirit just like that. I can tell you.
I can tell you like that. When I walk on the
platform and the power of God begins falling,
if there's anybody sitting behind me who is not
with me in the spirit, I can tell you. I can
tell you. I can tell you. Many a time I could
stop and point. to someone sitting on the preacher's
row and point my finger right at them and rebuke
that critical spirit. In the upper room, they
were all with one accord. The Holy Spirit did
not descend upon them until they were all with
one accord. Oh, the early church was glorious.
They had all things in common. Oh, it was marvelous.
It was glorious. As long as they all had that
wonderful love of Jesus and there was perfect
unity there, it was glorious. But, beloved, just
as soon as one of them started to pour, And another.
And another. That's when any church will begin
losing out spiritually. When they are no longer
in one accord. How many of you preachers understand?
Put up a hand. I don't care how much your geekity
gets. I don't care how much that elder gives.
He's not with you and there's not the oneness
in the spirit. Call him aside. and say, brother,
there must be perfect harmony, even as the Father,
the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Remember, separate
persons, separate personalities, but the Holy
Spirit never works apart from the Father. He
never works apart from Jesus. Jesus never worked
apart from the Holy Spirit nor the Father. Three
persons, but the three in one. One in unity and
harmony.