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is not the same manifestation of the Spirit needed

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in our denominational churches today, and you

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say it is, but how can we get it into these churches,

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and how can this happen? Now remember, of this

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ministry, of praying for the sick, there's a

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plan in God's Word for the church. Call for the

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elders of the church. Anointing them with oil.

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And the prayer of faith shall save the sick.

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I wouldn't have a man on my board. I wouldn't

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have a deacon. I wouldn't have an elder. Now

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we get into some deep things. I could talk like

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this because I don't have a church. It was never

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in the plan of God. Never. I'd be completely

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out of the will of the Lord if I were to build

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a church. That's not my calling. That is not

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my ministry. Very definitely it is not. Understand

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that. If I would go off and build a church, Reverend

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Mr. Wilkerson is a pastor. He's a pastor. Now,

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back home in Pittsburgh, there are literally

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hundreds of people who call me a pastor. But

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I don't have a church. You understand? I have

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never. And I'll tell you why. I, Carnegie Rector

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on our side, is a city -owned building. The Carnegie

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Music Hall, we rent that. The Stambaugh Auditorium,

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we rent that. Wherever I go, I take civic auditoriums.

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Because that is my ministry. And in ready these

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auditoriums, then I get everybody, I get people

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who do not feel free to attend a church. People

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who haven't been in church in years and years

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will come to a public auditorium. And then I

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go fishing. Do you understand that? Yeah. And

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so, even though some may call me a pastor, instead

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of building a church here in the United States,

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this ministry has built... 21 mission stations

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on foreign fields. I built all my churches on

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foreign fields. How many think that's a good

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idea? And it's just like that. But would it be

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something if everybody built their churches on

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foreign fields? That's the reason we thank God

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for Pastor Wilkerson. And we thank our God for

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the pastors here. That is a part of God's great

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plan. But I was never called to be a pastor.

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Never. Never. God has certain work for certain

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individuals. Certain colleagues. I've been asked

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over and over again, why, Ms. Coleman, why do

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you think that Billy Graham doesn't pray for

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the sick? Is it a lack of spirituality? A thousand

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times no. Don't you ever question his spirituality

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because he doesn't pray for the sick. That is

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his ministry. Don't you ever. There are those

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who'd be quick to say if he were more spiritual.

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Don't you dare. I cannot feel his shoes and neither

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can he feel my shoes. His ministry is a ministry

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of salvation. How many understand that? Put up

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a hand. His calling is one thing. My calling

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is another. God has given me this ministry. Whatever

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it is, I wonder myself, what is it? Whatever

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it is, Rel, but for every pastor in the country

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to try to either imitate Billy Graham or to imitate

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me, you may be out of the will of God in doing

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so. How many understand that? Put it by hand.

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And it's like that. You dare not get anyone on

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your board. unless that one is in perfect harmony

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and unity with you. If I had a church, if I was

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a pastor, I would not have a man serving on the

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board who was not in one accord with me. I'd

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get rid of that man so fast you wouldn't see

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him. I don't care what influence he has. That

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is one of the secrets, if I could tell you, if

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I could only tell you. How can I say? There is

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a secret in oneness in the spirit. There has

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got to be a oneness in the spirit. There has

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got to be. It's got to be. It's got to be. It's

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just got to be. It's just got to be. One man

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can throw a monkey wrench in the whole thing.

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One man can read the Holy Spirit. Rap as long

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as you have men on your board. As long as you

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have men working with you. For in oneness of

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the Spirit with you, there's no limit to what

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God will do for you. What's the very second you

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get somebody in who'll throw a monkey wrench

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in the thing? Because, you see, the Holy Spirit

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is easily grieved. I don't think any of you know

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how sensitive the Holy Spirit is. When in the

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Bible, he's likened unto a dove. The gentlest

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of all birds. I wish I could tell you. That's

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the reason you may feel that I'm very strict

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in this service. Because I don't allow certain

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things. It isn't me. Whispering. When people

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are talking. Two people are talking. It can breathe

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the Holy Spirit just like that. I can tell you.

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I can tell you like that. When I walk on the

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platform and the power of God begins falling,

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if there's anybody sitting behind me who is not

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with me in the spirit, I can tell you. I can

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tell you. I can tell you. Many a time I could

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stop and point. to someone sitting on the preacher's

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row and point my finger right at them and rebuke

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that critical spirit. In the upper room, they

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were all with one accord. The Holy Spirit did

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not descend upon them until they were all with

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one accord. Oh, the early church was glorious.

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They had all things in common. Oh, it was marvelous.

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It was glorious. As long as they all had that

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wonderful love of Jesus and there was perfect

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unity there, it was glorious. But, beloved, just

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as soon as one of them started to pour, And another.

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And another. That's when any church will begin

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losing out spiritually. When they are no longer

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in one accord. How many of you preachers understand?

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Put up a hand. I don't care how much your geekity

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gets. I don't care how much that elder gives.

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He's not with you and there's not the oneness

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in the spirit. Call him aside. and say, brother,

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there must be perfect harmony, even as the Father,

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the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Remember, separate

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persons, separate personalities, but the Holy

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Spirit never works apart from the Father. He

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never works apart from Jesus. Jesus never worked

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apart from the Holy Spirit nor the Father. Three

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persons, but the three in one. One in unity and

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harmony.