Do you know the Holy Spirit is a colorful personality?
Oh, the Holy Spirit is so colorful. I've learned
that a long time ago. I'm having the time of
my life. I'm working like a dog, but I'm going
to tell you, I enjoy every minute of it. Oh,
he's so colorful. He has a sense of humor. I
know that he does. And there's joy. It's glorious.
It's just wonderful. And it's so exciting. There's
never a dull moment. Never. I didn't know this
morning that I was going to speak on the baptism
of the Holy Spirit. Someone came up with the
questions about speaking in an unknown tongue.
And I said, well, I'll tell you what I'll do.
In this seminar, before I leave, I'll speak on
the baptism of the Holy Spirit. Then I'll answer
that question. He said, when? And so, we're answering
the question this morning. And I want to say
to you, please, homiletics has nothing to do,
you ministers. Ah, remember, I'm really not a
preacher, not really. Not really. That's the
reason when you say you don't believe in women
preachers, I don't either. I don't either. A
woman preacher. And I don't think anyone ever
considers me a preacher. When you think about
Kathryn Kuhlman, I don't believe anyone ever
thinks of me as a woman preacher. Not really.
I never think of myself as a woman preacher.
Never. Nobody refers to me as Reverend Kuhlman.
Oh, that's the funniest thing. You never think
of me in that light, do you? Never. And I don't
think of myself in that light as a woman preacher.
And I don't think I am because I can't preach.
All that I know that I'm somebody who loves the
Lord with all my heart. I just love the Lord.
It's so wonderful. And so again today, if you've
come here expecting to hear a sermon, forget
all about homiletics. I don't even know what
it means. I'm just here talking to you about
the Lord and my own personal experiences. And
as I talk to you about my own personal experiences
and the Word of God, All that I ask of you to
do is to sit there with an open heart and open
mind. No matter what your preconceived ideas
have been, all that I ask of you for the next
hour is to sit there with an open heart and open
mind. Your theology may be changed. And the biggest
person in the world is that somebody who will
say, I was wrong. I was wrong. Maybe you're like
the Jewish gentleman, a very influential, perhaps
one of the most influential Jewish gentlemen
in the city of Portland, Oregon. A Mr. Stern,
Jerome Stern. Began watching our telecast. Very
influential. He was influential in raising all
the money for the new, beautiful synagogue in
Portland, Oregon. Everybody knows Jerome Stern.
began watching our telecast. And then he flew
to Pittsburgh. He and his wife were on their
way to New York. He was in the service. After
the service, he spent hours talking to me about
the Messiah. And then he came to the Shrine of
the Trinity in Los Angeles. And this is something
that he said. After that, the Holy Spirit had
revealed to him that Jesus... is the true Messiah.
This is one of the most pitiful things. He has
three children. The oldest child is his son.
A son 17, 18 years of age. And he said to me,
Ms. Goldman, I see it. I see it all now. I know
that Jesus is the true Messiah. But the hardest
thing for me to do right now is to call my children
in, is to look into the face of my oldest son,
for remember, they're taught to believe, to respect
the word of their parent. And in accepting this
wonderful experience, I'm going to have to say
to my son, son, your father was wrong all these
years. Your father was wrong all of these years.
I taught you that when Jesus came in the flesh,
he was not the true Messiah. I have to tell you
now that I was wrong. He was the very son of
the living God. Sit there with an open heart.
I pray, wonderful Jesus, please, somehow take
every person in this place, every minister in
this place, every church leader in this place,
and just kind of turn them upside down for one
hour. until we shake all of our preconceived
ideas out and then turn us right side up again
and let the Holy Spirit speak to our hearts,
I pray. As little children, we come willing to
be taught. For Jesus' sake, we ask this. Amen.
The wonderful Holy Spirit. is a person. Remember,
he has all the attributes of personality. You
must consider this before you'll understand the
work of the Holy Spirit. Before I begin on the
work of the Holy Spirit, remember something.
Never forget it. It is the blood that maketh
an atonement for the soul. The blood of Jesus
Christ, God's Son, you and I may differ on all
the doctrinal truths. You may not see eye to
eye with me when it comes to the baptism of the
Holy Spirit. You may not see eye to eye with
me when it comes to divine healing. You may not
see eye to eye with me when it comes to the great
catching up, the rapture of the church, the second
coming of the Lord Jesus Christ. But if you've
had that new birth experience, if you've been
born again, and you've been born into this body
of Christ, then you're my brother and my sister.
Please, you must understand that. Please understand
it. There are literally millions of God's precious
children who lived and died Who were not baptized
with the Holy Spirit. But they're in heaven today.
We have the word and we must stay with the word.
How many understand? Put a hand. And don't let
anyone tell you. That you have to be filled with
the Holy Spirit. This wonderful experience. The
baptism of the Holy Spirit. One of the most.
beautiful, the greatest thing that can come into
your life after you've been born again. It follows,
this experience follows one's salvation, one's
conversion. Know that. Therefore I must make
it very clear to you. The baptism with the Holy
Spirit has nothing to do whatsoever with your
salvation. If you've been born again, I repeat
it to make it very clear. That new birth experience
where literally old things have passed away and
you have become a new creature in Christ Jesus.
That's the most important experience of any individual's
life. And the baptism of the Holy Spirit has
nothing to do with your salvation. All right?
The Holy Spirit is a person, and you must recognize
this, for he has intellect, emotion, will, all
of the attributes that characterize personality.
Oh, you don't know what you're missing. Whenever
you think of the Holy Spirit as just an influence,
oh, please, when you think of the Holy Spirit
as just a mystery, you don't know. What you're
missing, you don't know. There's something about
him when you get acquainted with him. When you
get acquainted with him, he becomes a very living
part of you, a vital part of you. You've just
started to live. Just started. And the Holy Spirit
is not a new personality just having come upon
the scene. Sometimes I think, The last days when
thousands of Roman Catholics are just becoming
acquainted with the Holy Spirit. When literally
thousands of our denomination church people,
hundreds of our ministers are just coming into
the light of the Holy Spirit, being filled with
the Holy Spirit. We get the idea that the Holy
Spirit is just a new personality having come
on the scene. He's not a new personality. He's
not. He was there at the time of creation. All
three persons were there. And the Spirit of God
moved upon the waters. And whenever a word speaks
of the Spirit of God, it's the Holy Spirit. The
Old Testament saints knew. with the power of
the Holy Spirit. Oh, Moses knew the power of
the Holy Ghost. Read it there in Numbers. Read
it. And when the 70 were chosen, it's in the
11th chapter of Numbers, when the 70 were chosen
to help Moses. In the sovereignty of God, God
not only filled Moses with the Holy Spirit, but
he also came upon the seventh day to work with
him. In the building of the tabernacle, God in
his sovereignty came upon those who helped to
build the tabernacle. Gideon knew the Holy Spirit.
How do you think when you read the Old Testament
and the power that was on some of these Old Testament
saints? What was it? The secret was the power
of the Holy Ghost. But in the Old Testament,
it was the sovereignty of God. Not all of the
Old Testament saints were filled with the Holy
Ghost. Remember that. Whenever they were filled
with the Holy Spirit, it was the sovereignty
of God. Joseph was filled with the Holy Spirit.
And Pharaoh recognized the power of the Holy
Spirit upon Joseph. He was no stranger to the
Old Testament saints. Read your Bible again in
the light of this. It will be most revealing.
And that's what I said yesterday. There's such
a difference between religion and Christianity.
Christianity is revealing and the Holy Spirit
is the great revealer. The Old Testament prophets
knew the power of the Holy Ghost. If we were
to call the Old Testament prophets here in this
auditorium this morning, they could bear witness
to the very power of the one of whom I am speaking.
But always it was the sovereignty of God. Know
that. David knew. How well David knew of the
person of the Holy Spirit. David had received
this wonderful experience. I would like to know
what they called it then. I don't think they
called it the baptism of the Holy Spirit. I don't
think they did. They only knew it was the Holy
Spirit. That's the reason David, the saddest
cry we have in the Word of God is this cry of
David. When he cried, take not thy Holy Spirit.
Take not thy Holy Spirit from me. The same Holy
Spirit that you know. The same Holy Spirit whose
presence is here this very hour. I pray to that
prayer 10 ,000 times. Take not thy Holy Spirit.
from him. Samson knew that's the reason, the
word. He wished not that the Spirit had departed
from him. He wished not that the Holy Spirit
had departed from him. It was the power of the
Holy Ghost, the power of the Holy Spirit, and
the life of Samson. But the Holy Spirit departed,
and he tried to get up and shake himself this
other time. And I've seen it over and over and
over again, and you've seen it. And that's the
tragedy. You can say the same words. You can
go through the same action. But when the Holy
Spirit is no longer there, when the Holy Spirit
no longer does the shaking, we have fanaticism
and we have manifestations of the flesh. That,
my friend, is what brings reproach on the Holy
Spirit. You see, I love him so much. I couldn't
do without him. I couldn't do without the Holy
Spirit. I couldn't. I'm the most ordinary person
in the world. Is that a woman living today who's
more ordinary than the one who's standing before
you now? I know from whence I have come. I know.
I know from whence I have come. A little crossroads
of a town in Concordia, Missouri. And the most
unlikely The only person in the whole world that
God would use. I know. I know. I know the secret,
the power in this ministry. I know better than
anyone else. I know that I have nothing to do
with the power of the Holy Spirit. This wonderful
power in person comes upon men and women and
they're slain. I know that I have nothing to
do with it. When men and women are so wonderfully
healed by the power of God, I know better than
anyone else living that I have nothing to do
with it. I'm absolutely dependent on the power
of the Holy Spirit. That's the reason I can hear
the cry. Of David when he said, take not of thy
Holy Spirit from me. David knew the secret of
his power. And I do not want anyone to bring
a reproach on this person who means everything
in the world to me. He's precious. He's holy.
I can... never put into audible words. There
are no words in the human vocabulary. Because
it is a heavenly language. You can't tell it.
You can't tell it. What this wonderful Holy Spirit
means to me, this fellowship that I have with
Him, this communion that I have with Him. And
I almost have a sense of protectiveness. And
I don't want anyone to bring a reproach on this
one who means so much to me. Don't bring a reproach
on the Holy Spirit, please. I beg of you. I beg
of you, please. So much reproach has been brought
on the Holy Spirit. Fanaticism is resolved. of
either ignorance and spiritual ignorance as such.
A disastrous thing. Never, never, never act contrary
to the Word of God. Never. If your actions are
contrary to the Word of God, If you cannot back
up your action with the Word of God, then there's
something wrong someplace with your experience.
In other cases, the thing that brings such reproach
on this wonderful person, the Trinity, the Holy
Spirit, is the same thing of Samson. He whisked
not that the Spirit had departed. And then they
try to shake themselves and the flesh enters
into it. And there's nothing more revolting or
disgusting than the shaking and the manifestations
of the flesh. After that, the Holy Spirit has
departed. I don't care what you experienced 25
years ago. I don't care what you experienced
15 years ago. Oh, you say 15 years ago I was
wonderfully filled with the Holy Spirit. It was
glorious. And then you relate the experience
to your hands. It was so new to you. And you
walked in the light. And this experience. The
Holy Spirit came in. It was glory. But my friend,
let me ask you, what do you have today? Today,
today, today. Now, some of you who were filled
with the Holy Spirit 20 years ago, 10 years ago,
8 years ago, Today you're as dried up as last
year's corn shocks. And yet you're still trying
to go through the same motions. You're still
trying to go through the same demonstrations.
The same thing. But you say, I was baptized with
the Holy Spirit back there. Remember something.
I too received the baptism of the Holy Spirit.
But there is never a time when I'm in a great
miracle service. But what I receive, a fresh
baptism of the Holy Spirit. A fresh baptism.
A fresh baptism. A fresh baptism. Now, when it
comes to your conversion, remember, when it comes
to your conversion, that, my friend, is a definite
experience. It's a definite transaction. That
is it. You're born again. There's that wonderful
new birth experience when you become a new creature
in Christ Jesus. an heir of God and a joint heir
with Christ Jesus. And the mighty creator becomes
your heavenly father. And you're born into the
body of Christ. That's a definite transaction.
I belong. He's my heavenly father. I am His by
adoption. And I know to whom I belong. But when
it comes to the Holy Spirit, it's something that's
constant, this fellowship. This fellowship, this
constant communion. And if you're trying... to
measure up to some experience that you received
away back there and you say, I got it, I got
it. I got it. No. It's a daily communion with
him. Daily. Daily. Under the anointing of the
Holy Spirit. Oh, you ministers in this place.
Have you stood before your people with an anointing?
Until you feel that anointing from the top of
your head to the soles of your feet. You're so
under the anointing, my brother. that literally
your ears hear what he is speaking through your
mouth. Under the anointing of the Holy Spirit,
I stood there. And he's taught me as he has spoken
through my lips and my ears have heard. And I
knew it wasn't Catherine Kuhlman. I knew. I knew
it wasn't Catherine Kuhlman. If you only knew
me a little better, you would understand why
I'm so sold on the Holy Spirit. I'm so sold on
the Holy Spirit, I do not know how better to
say it to you. I'm so sold on the Holy Ghost.
It just becomes worse and worse. The choice of
words that you speak. My brother, so far as the
intellect is concerned, was a masterpiece. But
how many were saved? What was the result? Was
there a supernatural manifestation? Wherever
you find the Holy Ghost, wherever you find the
presence of the Holy Spirit, there will always
be the supernatural. Always. Know that. And the
supernatural does not come through a great organization.
Sometimes I think we've organized ourselves to
death. Sometimes I think we're so organized that
the Holy Spirit can't get in. He can't work.
It'll be the greatest day that the church has
ever known when the church gets to the place
where it no longer is completely dependent on
organization. Yeah. The Holy Spirit must have
freedom. The Holy Spirit must have liberty. And
wherever you find the Holy Spirit, you know,
I'm going to say something and I hope that I'm
not misconstrued. I hope I'm not. What I'm about
to say, I've never seen more holy laughter. I'll
get it out in a few minutes, but I want to throw
this in. I have never... I've never in all of
these years have seen more holy laughter. And
there is such a thing as holy laughter. And in
miracle services, holy laughter. That's the reason
I tell you about this student. He's such a colorful
personality. I'm so glad I had sense enough never
to write a book on theology, on doctrine. I'm
so glad I've been pressed and pressed by different
publishers who come from New York City and they've
asked me to write a book on doctrine. Well, I'll
tell you, that's one smart thing I did. Because
you see, Had I written a book on doctrine, about
six months later, I'd have to call them all in
and say, I made a mistake. That's right. Because
as you watch the Holy Spirit work, as you watch
him work, he's so colorful that it isn't always
the same, not really. You can't put him... in
a certain category and then put a fence around
him. And that's exactly what we're trying to
do in some of our little circles. We're trying
to fence him in. We're trying to put a fence
around the Holy Spirit and keep him in this fence
because it's our idea. And we believe it thus
and so. And it isn't long before he jumps a fence
and all that you've got is a fence. And he's
gone. And he's gone. Some of you Pentecostal
people were dead sure that nothing would ever
happen in a First Methodist church such as you
saw last night. Your theology has told you that
if you were not filled with the Holy Spirit in
Assembly of God Church, then you didn't get it.
How many know I'm right? Keep your hands down.
And you say, come to my church. Come on, come
on. You'll get it. You'll get it. You'll get
it. Come on to my church. You'll get it. You'll
get it. Come on. You'll never be filled in the
First Methodist Church. You'll never receive
the baptism of the Holy Spirit in the First Baptist
Church. Never. Never. You'll never see the supernatural
power of the Holy Spirit. Never. In the denominational
churches. The Bible doesn't say that. And there
you are in your own little circle. We have him.
We got him. And we have a corner on him. And
you never this, you'll never get him. Look out,
look out. One these days you may awaken to find
out that you are the one from whom he has departed.
He's bigger than denominational lines. The Holy
Spirit is greater than man's idea. The Holy Ghost
is greater than our own preconceived idea. Know
that. When he's so powerful, Jesus knew. I think
of that over and over again. Who knew the Holy
Spirit better than Jesus? He'd been with him
from the beginning of time. Jesus knew him. Jesus
knew his power. And the Holy Ghost is the power
of the Trinity. knowing the power of the ghost
is Jesus William. Before Jesus ever offered himself
to the Father to be given, he first of all offered
himself through the Holy Spirit to be given.
For he knew his power. I'm not talking about
something that is just mediocre. I'm coming back
again. to this holy laughter is happening. But
you want to know something? I see it so much
among those in Catholicism who are just coming
into the light of the Holy Spirit. We've had
so much of the holy laughter recently. I watched
this. Like I told you, all that I know about
the Holy Spirit is I see him and watch him. And
watch him. And you get to know him. You watch
his personality. You know what pleases him. You
know what grieves him. You just know and you
know instantly. It's as though you're in the
presence of someone that you know so well and
you know when they're grieved. And you know when
they happen, you know when they're pleased. I
follow him that carefully. And sometimes I think
he's allowed this wonderful holy laughter to
come forth from some of these precious folk because
they have been released from the bondage they
were in. This bondage, this bondage, this bondage.
You're no longer under bondage when the Holy
Spirit comes in. This bondage that men and women
are living in. I pray to God you'll come from
out of that bondage. Come out from that bondage.
Some of you are... bound in spiritual darkness
some of you are bound by some organization literally
bound your heart cries everything within you
cries out cries out you're hungry you're hungry
but the bondage that you're in this terrific
bondage You're bound by people. You're bound
by organization. You're bound by those in higher
authority than you are. Many of you in Catholicism,
you've been bound so long. Some of you have been
bound by sin so long. And sometimes I think this
wonderful holy laughter that we see is glorious
if you've never heard it. It's different. It's
different than any laughter. It's different.
It's the laughter of freedom. It's the laughter
of liberty. But everything is in good taste.
When the Holy Spirit does it, and always remember
this, if you never again hear me speak to you,
in a heart -to -heart talk regarding this person,
the Holy Spirit, he is never unseemly in his
actions. Never. Never. If it's revolting, it's
not the Holy Spirit. Know that. Know that. If
it's revolting, it is not the Holy Spirit. If
it's obnoxious, it's not the Holy Spirit. Like
it's the flesh. When it's holy, it's something
that's contagious. It's something that's beautiful.
It's something that's wonderful. for everything
the Holy Spirit does. I have such high regard
for him. I've never known him to ever manifest
himself in a revolting way. It's perfection.
It's perfection. And I know there are things
that happen in the flesh. and labeled as the
Holy Spirit cannot be the Holy Spirit for it's
contrary to his personality and his beauty and
his loveliness. Open our understandings, please.
Flesh and blood hath not revealed this unto thee,
but to my Father which is in heaven. Open our
understandings. Let him that happen here, let
him hear what the Spirit's saying. But remember,
it was the sovereignty of God when the Holy Spirit
came upon the Old Testament saints. But that
was changed after Jesus came. Jesus knew the
secret of his power. Those miracles you read
are the miracles. When you read the miracles
in the New Testament, it was the power of the
Holy Spirit. Jesus knew that being in the flesh,
he could not perform miracles. And yet he knew
there would have to be the manifestation of the
supernatural power of God. That's the reason
in essence one day he said to them, if you won't
believe, Oh, that I say that I am. Then believe
me for the very work's sake. And he knew that
they would have to be the supernatural power
of God or they would never accept him. And that
was the reason he offered himself first to the
Holy Spirit. And he said, if you'll come, if
you'll be with me, if you'll manifest the supernatural
power. of the Father through me. I'll go because
I'll need that manifestation. I'll need it. And
Jesus understood every time there was a miracle.
Jesus understood. He understood perfectly well.
It was the Holy Spirit. And those miracles did
not begin until after Jesus came up out of the
waters of baptism. And God spoke. And in that
hour, the Holy Spirit came upon him as a dove.
Then, before he went away, he told about the
Holy Spirit. He told him he would come, read
it there in John. He'll teach you all things.
He'll guide you. I'd give anything in the world
if I could stay with you longer and take all
of these scriptures. But when you read your scripture
now in the light of that which I've been teaching
you, Light and light will come. He will glorify
me. And always remember that the Holy Spirit
will always glorify Jesus. Always. Jesus said
he would. And the Holy Spirit always magnifies.
That's the reason I say to you... Sometimes we
get so involved with our own ideas. There are
those who run such a hobby on the Holy Spirit
that they have forgotten all about Jesus. They
have forgotten all about Jesus. And Jesus made
it very definite that the Holy Spirit will magnify
and glorify me. It's still Jesus. But just before
he went away, wanting to give his church. Now,
whenever I speak of the church, I'm talking about
this body of believers because there is only
one who can say my church. Only one. When you
say my church, you talk about the denomination
to which you belong. But the one who could really
say my church. with Jesus, this glorious body
of believers. And every person, whether they
be Jew or Gentile, Catholic or Protestant, whoever
that one may be, when they have this wonderful
new birth experience, they are automatically
born into this body of believers. Mine. These
that thou hast given unto me. Jesus said when
he talked to the Father, there is literally this
kinship, this relationship. We are a part of
him and he is the head of this wonderful body
of believers. In this holy sanctuary this morning,
it makes no difference who you are. And I dare
say that we have practically... Every denomination
represented here. It makes no difference where
you have the church membership. If you have had
that new birth experience, then you are my brother
and my sister. And we are a member of this great
body of believers, this body of Christ. But remember,
before he went away. He wanted to give to this
body of believers the greatest gift that he could
possibly give. The Holy Spirit had been so faithful
to him. The Holy Spirit had come through every
time. The Holy Spirit had been so faithful. He
depended on him. We had not let him down. And
so, knowing he was going to go away, he said,
it's expedient for you that I go away. I have
to go away. For I'm soon to take the position
of great high priest, ever living to make intercession
for you. And that's the reason not one of us
needs ever be defeated. Not one. There isn't
one of his children that needs ever go down in
defeat for one second. Not one second. I don't
care what the temptation is. I don't care. Not
one of us need ever go down in defeat. We have
a great high priest. We have one who ever liveth
to make intercession for us. And he'll be right
there to give you the strength to come through
victoriously. So he says, I'll give you the gift.
Now remember, he came upon only a few in the
Old Testament. But now, Now it was different.
Now. And ye shall receive power. And he's talking
to his own. His own. His own. Members of this
great body. You cannot limit it just to the few
in the upper room. You cannot limit it to the
120. For he was not speaking to just the 120.
And he made it known, the Holy Spirit made it
known to whom this glorious power was to come
upon. He made it known to the lips of Peter.
to you, to this generation, to the generation
that follows, and the generation after that,
and the generation after that, even to that hour
in the First Methodist Church in Tulsa, Oklahoma.
This promise is unto you and your children and
your children's children and their children.
And he included me. You dare not limit the Holy
Spirit to just the early church. You dare not
limit to this wonderful experience to just 120.
And ye shall receive power. What power? The same
power that was manifested in his life and ministry.
the same manifestation. After that, the Holy
Ghost is come upon you. And the greatest gift
that Jesus could possibly give to his church
was the gift of the Holy Spirit. It's a part
of your inheritance. It's yours. It's a part
of your inheritance. You don't know what you're
missing. You don't know what you've been missing
all this time. You don't know. You don't know.
It's a glorious experience. It's a marvelous
experience. But you say, Ms. Cooman, how is one
filled with the Holy Spirit? It's so simple.
It's like that about everything when it comes
to the spiritual things. Healing is so simple.
There's some hard thing he'd asked us to do.
It's so simple that most folk miss it. Now we
come to the thing of tongues and the experience.
First of all, let me answer this as simply as
I can. How is one filled with the Holy Spirit?
He is with you, the scripture says, but he shall
be in you. The Holy Spirit is with every Christian.
If you're born again, the Holy Spirit is with
you. He was even with you before you were born
again because it's the Holy Spirit who convicts
the sinner of sin and of judgment. The Holy Spirit
is the mighty convicting power. Know that. If
only you could realize the importance of the
Holy Spirit. He is the convicting power. No man
comes to the Lord of himself. If you're convicted,
that is the Holy Spirit. He is with every Christian.
If you're born again, He is with you. He's with
every child of God. But when it comes to this
experience, but he shall be in you. In. In. In.
That makes a mighty close. In you. Here. But
how? Let me give you a simple illustration that
I possibly can. When we're born again. Let's
say, for instance, our heart has four wounds
in it. You want to know something? I don't think
we could take it all at once. You know it? I
really don't. Do you really want to know how
powerful is the Holy Spirit? Do you really want
to know? That's the reason when it comes to the
slaying power of the Holy Spirit. And there are
those who witness to the fact that it was like
a bowl of electricity. Do you know what you're
dealing with? Something greater than any electricity.
These old physical bodies of ours can just take
so much. They're not geared for all this power.
You understand? That's the reason no man can
look upon the face of God and live. All that
Moses saw was the hinder part. That's the reason
I know that God has a body. He's more than something
ethereal. He's more than spirit. Moses literally
saw. God is more than just spirit. Oh, I'd like
to spend the next hour just on that, but I can't
do it. But remember, the four rooms of our heart
and at the time of salvation, we think we've
given him everything. We think we have. And we
open, as it were, one room of our heart and say,
come in, Lord Jesus. Come in. And he comes in.
We're born again. But there's something about
the next day, you know. It's a light. It's something
that's constant. It's glorious. It's a definite
transaction. That new birth experience is a definite
transaction. The songwriter had it when he wrote
the words in the first stanza, some of self and
some of thee. Then the next verse, less of self
and more of thee. And then... None of self. I
can't put it better. None of self. But all of
thee. None of self. And it's the hardest thing
in the world sometimes, I think, is for men and
women to die. To die. None of self. None of self.
None of self. But all these. But remember. He
comes in as you worship and adore Jesus. For
Jesus said he'd magnify me. And you get exactly
what you seek. And many a person has sought tongues.
Tongues. You cannot show to me from the Word
of God. You cannot. No theologian can show me
and prove to me in the Word of God that you and
I were ever commanded to seek tongues. And I
believe in the speaking in an unknown tongue.
I believe in it with every atom of my being.
Don't you dare go out of here. Don't you dare.
I'll pray conviction on you that you won't sleep.
And no sleeping pill will help you out. Don't
you dare. I believe in the speaking in an unknown
tongue. I've got to believe it. It's here. In
the house of Cornelius, I believe. But they were
at no time commanded to seek them. Never. Read
Paul himself. They were seeking the Holy Spirit.
In the upper room is 120. seeking Him, the Holy
Spirit. And in the final analysis, my friend,
when you talk about the baptism of the Holy Spirit,
it's still just more of Jesus and more and more
and more and more and more and more of Jesus.
And what, my friend, is the speaking in an unknown
tongue if you do not have the power of the Holy
Ghost and the love of Jesus? I'll go back to
that in just a second. If you seek tongues and
you're not scriptural, you're absolutely not
scriptural. If you get down on your knees and
pray for tongues, You're not scripture. You're
not scripture. You seek more of Jesus. And the
Holy Spirit comes in through praise and adoration.
You worship Jesus. He will glorify me. And when
you get to the place where you love Jesus with
all of your heart, it's so easy to die to self
when you have... Jesus. When you love Jesus.
It isn't a matter of struggling. It's so easy
when you love Jesus enough to surrender to him.
And you love him. And you adore him. And the
Holy Spirit comes in. And he will announce his
own incoming. It isn't that you seek any evidence.
Don't seek the evidence. The evidence will come.
And you don't have to seek the evidence. The
evidence will come. How many understand? Put
up a hand. And the greater of the two evidences
is the power that's manifested in your life.
For Jesus himself said, and he shall receive
power. Don't let us put words in the mouth of
Jesus. Don't go contrary to the teaching of the
master. His last words, he knew human nature
so well. And he shall receive power after that
thought goes, has come upon you. And. The greatest
evidence of having been filled with the Holy
Spirit will be the fruit of the Spirit. Yeah?
I'm going to tell you something. When you plant
a peach tree, and if that's a genuine peach tree,
you're not going to get crab apples. And remember
something else. Noise isn't power. Yeah. I had
an old Model T Ford one time. First car I...
Oh, man. I'm going to tell you something. It's
that old Ford. If noise had been power, that
would have been the most powerful thing that
ever was on the road. Back in Idaho, love is
the only thing. I think I got it for $35. It's
all I could afford. But say you drive one of
Tinker Wilkerson's new Imperials. Now watch.
Though... I speak with the tongues of men and
of angels. And have not love, I am become a sounding
brass or a tinkling cymbal. And though I have
the gift of prophecy, understand all the mysteries,
read it, that 13th chapter of 1 Corinthians.
And though I bestow all my goods to feed the
poor, though I gave my body to be burned and
have not love, it profiteth me nothing. Now,
if you want to know whether one has really been
filled with Holy Spirit, there will be the evidence
of the fruit. There will be the evidence. Love
suffereth long. Oh, is patient. And is kind.
Can your experience measure up with this? Endeth
not. Sometimes I think we have more jealousies
in our assemblies and in our churches than...
Anyplace else in the world. The sin of jealousy
is so prevalent. And it's the first sin that
we have any record of whatsoever. That's what
caused an angel to fall and become safe. Bonteth
not itself. Is not puffed up. I've got to stop
right there and say something. You Do not have
the fruits of the Spirit. Watch this. If you
have spiritual pride, you say, I have been filled.
This gets me more than almost anything else.
Somebody comes along and said, Oh, Ms. Gomez,
so nice meeting you. I want you to know that
I've been... filled with the holy spirit after
the baptism the holy spirit i have all the gifts
of the spirit and the more they talk the more
puffed up i feel like taking a pin and just puncture
the balloon and i get away from that one so fast
because beloved The greatest of all Christian
graces is humility. And if you have received
the baptism of the Holy Spirit, remember, one
of the fruits of the Spirit is humility. And
some folks, after they think that they've been
filled with the Holy Spirit, you can't touch
them with a 10 -foot pole. They're so proud.
else is on a lower level because they have received
the baptism of the Holy Spirit. How many understand?
Put up your hands. I'll go a step further when
it comes to, and I'd like to take this whole
thing. I'll go a step further when it comes to
not only the but the gifts of the Spirit. If
you have really received one or more of the gifts
of the Spirit, you're not going to boast of it.
You're not going to talk about it. You're not
going to talk about it. You're not going to talk
about it. Because these things are so sacred.
These things are so sacred. They're so wonderful.
A beautiful jewel. It's precious. It's precious.
You got it so well. No one will ever hear Catherine
Kuhl ever admit that she has been given any gift
of the spirit. I would no more than anything
in the world. I would no more. I would no more
stand before an audience or even speak privately
of any gift that the Spirit, the Holy Spirit
has ever given me. It's a gift. A responsibility
that goes with it. And you guard it so carefully.
You guard it so carefully. And it gives you a
reward. for what the Holy Spirit has done and
has given. I beg of you, if there's one in this
place who's gone around boasting of some gift
of the Spirit, be careful. Be very careful how
you use it. Be very careful. is a sacred trust.
It's something so precious you don't talk about.
Much as I've said this morning may be absolutely
contrary to your theology. I'm not going to speak
on tongues. There shall be no doubt in your mind.
I believe in the speaking in an unknown tongue.
But when the Holy Spirit does the speaking, it's
going to be beautiful. Wonderful. And he speaks
perfectly. He speaks perfectly. Sometimes...
in some of the actions of the fever, you would
almost get the idea that the Holy Spirit was
illiterate. He's not an imbecile. The one through
whom Jesus offered himself to be cured. Perfect
wisdom. Perfect knowledge. Perfect in all things.
And when he speaks, he'll speak beautifully.
I'll tell you my first experience when I was
young. I was so young. Not more than 16 years
of age in Julian, Illinois. And the thing that
I've been talking to you about this morning was
so new to me. I knew nothing about the nothing.
And all that I knew when I first started out
in the ministry was just salvation. I knew nothing
more. Nothing, I knew nothing more. I only knew
that I'd been born again, that's all. And you
do not give to anyone else any more than what
you've experienced. It was an astounding feeling.
One night I'd given an altar call. My personal
work, I wasn't too wise in it. I practically
locked the door, and if there was an unsaved
person there, they didn't get out until I had
them down on their knees. I pounded the devil
right out of them. The Lord didn't do it. I did
it for him. Oh, so unwise. I'd given the altar
call, and then the services ended. There were
still about three or four who were still kneeling.
This was my first experience. I was sitting back
with Isabel Drake's mother. Practically all the
lights were turned out. I was saving electricity.
Isabel Drake, a schoolteacher who would commute
from Joliet, Illinois into Chicago. A very fine
young lady. was kneeling at the altar for salvation,
and I was sitting there quietly talking with
her mother. And suddenly, Isabel Drake put back
her head, and the most beautiful singing, the
most beautiful singing, as clean as a bell. I
never hear an opera singer. I never. When they
hit those seas, I never. It was so deeply moved
and affected. That's been years ago. It was perfect.
I think I know a little bit of what they... Music
is going to be like in heaven. Remember, when
the Holy Spirit does it, it's perfection. There's
never a wrong note. It's never flat. It's never
sharp. When the Holy Spirit does it, it's perfection.
And a mother grabbed my hand. She says, my daughter
can't even carry a tune. That's not my daughter
singing. my daughters and her face shone like
an angel and as she sang oh the perfection of
it she was glorifying and magnifying Jesus and
this continued for about five minutes and that
was it I heard the singing of the Holy Spirit.
My mother had never heard me preach. If you only
knew Mama. If you only knew Mama. Mama has died
since. Mama had never heard me preach. The very
first time was when she came to Denver, Colorado.
I've got to believe in the speaking in a non
-tongue. I've got to believe. But what I'm trying
to say to you when he does it, it'll be perfection.
It'll be perfection. Everything the Holy Spirit
does is perfection. And after I finished preaching,
I said, now there's a prayer room back here.
And I thought, oh, what will Mama think? What
will Mama think? And I'd been preaching on the
power of the Holy Spirit. I don't think Mama
understood one thing that I said. I don't think
she did. Mama knew nothing about the Holy Spirit.
Mama was Methodist. She didn't know too much
about the new birth experience. I had to just
slip back in the prayer room and I'll go back
with you. And so they came. When I walked off
of that platform, Mama was just sitting there.
She didn't come. She didn't know what it was
all about. After about 15 minutes, the door of
the prayer room opened. There must have been
about a hundred more kneeling there praying.
Everyone with their heads down. And I saw Mama
come through that door. She only knew my Mama.
You can't appreciate this. You could not have
convinced my Mama. The spiritual... things. She
was so set in a way. If the Methodists didn't
believe it, then it wasn't so. It wasn't so.
Her father, my grandfather, was so Methodist
that when he died, he would have staked life
that only Methodists will be in heaven. I've
often thought since, think what a surprise that
Grandpa Walkenhurst got. And Mama knelt down.
She hadn't been on her knees very long. I slowly
walked over to her. Everybody was praying. And
I laid my hands on her. She's such a quiet woman.
When I touched her. My mama began to speak in
a heavenly language. Mama never knew there was
such a thing. My mama did not know there was
such a thing as speaking in an unknown tongue.
She didn't know it. She had never read it. She
had never heard it. She had no light on it. She
was not seeking for it. Explain these things.
Who can? Who can? And my mother began speaking
just as softly and brutally. It was glorious.
It was glorious. It stood there. I had to believe
in speaking in an unknown tongue. I have to,
I have to. I have no choice. When she opened
her eyes, she took my hands in hers for the first
time that she had ever approved me being in the
work that I was in. She took both of my hands
in hers and she said, Catherine. Preaching that
others might receive what I have just received.
You want to know something? My mother did not
sleep for three days and two nights. So great
was the joy of the Lord upon her. She couldn't
sleep. She couldn't sleep. There was no sleep
in her. She couldn't. This joy. This joy. This
joy. The next morning, they came to see her.
The joy. The joy. It's something. Who can explain
it? There are no words in the human vocabulary.
You know it. You know it. You know it. My mother
was never the same again. Never. The next day,
there was no sleep. This joy. This joy. I had
a new mama. My mama was a new person. This love
that radiated from her. This love. Nobody had
to prompt her. Nobody had to teach her this joy,
this love, this love. And my mother never, never,
never, never again was the same. My own experience.
When I died and I told you last night, I came
to the place of a dead end street when I gave
him barky soul and spirit. I gave him body, soul,
and spirit. And he came in, and he spoke through
lips of clay. It was not Catherine Kuhlman, but
it was when I gave him myself, all of me. All
of me. All of me. It's so natural. It's so simple.
You do not have to seek the manifestation. You
just surrender to him and he does the rest. You
know not how to pray or what to ask for. It's
the Holy Spirit over here in Romans. this is
precious i wish i had an entire hour on this
likewise the spirit also helpeth our infirmities
for we know not what we should pray for as we
ought but the spirit itself maketh intercession
for us with groanings which cannot be uttered
and he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what
is in the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh
intercession. He maketh intercession for the
saints according to the will of God. You say,
have you ever spoken in tongues since? There
are times when in my ignorance, in my lack of
knowledge, I know not how to pray. and a dear
old brother mcleod when i was so young when he
was in his eighties took my hand in his ears
and said never get out of the will of god girl
and i didn't know what he was talking about i
know now my own nature is to be impulsive but
when it comes to the things of god i'm so slow
to move i'm so afraid of getting out of the will
of god afraid of getting out of His will. I wouldn't
get out of the will of God for anything in the
world. And there are times I don't know. I don't
know how to pray. I don't know. I come and stand
there in that moment of crisis and I don't know.
And I look up. And always remember, when you
get to the place where you have no will of your
own, you cannot miss the will of God. It's not
an easy place to get to. That's the reason why
when you come to those places, you rush over
to your neighbors and you rush over to somebody
else. And you want them to say what you want
to hear. There is a place when you come. And
this is where the speaking in an unknown tongue
comes in my life. I know now. And remember something.
The Holy Spirit is not given for our own pleasure
and our own enjoyment. It is not. The Holy Spirit
is given for service. It is not for our own pleasure.
You're misusing the Holy Spirit. You're misusing
this wonderful person if you're using him for
your own pleasure. A little spiritual picnic
when you get together with some of the saints
of God. You're misappropriating the power of
the Holy Ghost. But there is a time when you
know not how to pray. That there is one who knows
the perfect will of God. And he never works separate
and apart from the Father. He never works separate
and apart from Jesus. He has perfect knowledge
as to the will of God. And when I get to the
place, I have no will of my own. And I throw
myself upon the person who dwells within. and
he comes before the throne and he makes intercession
for me and he speaks for me and i can never miss
la garde for he knows his will and talks of the
father for me