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We have been having a wonderful time together

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in these heart -to -heart talks regarding the

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resurrection. And those of you who have been

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following me in these broadcasts, remember that

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I made a very definite statement that the Word

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of God teaches three kinds of resurrections.

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The first, a national resurrection. which refers

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to Israel. Then the spiritual resurrection. And

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that was the resurrection that we discussed in

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our little heart -to -heart talk the last time

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I was in your home. That resurrection that happens

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every day in somebody's life happens to that

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one who accepts Jesus Christ as his Savior. that

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spiritual resurrection here and now. Oh, that

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resurrection is marvelous. And that was the resurrection

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that is referred to in the fifth chapter of John

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when Jesus himself said, Verily, verily, I say

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unto you, He that heareth my word and believeth

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on him that sent me hath... Everlasting life.

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That means here and now. You don't wait to receive

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your everlasting life after the grave. No. Hath

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now. The very moment that you accept Christ as

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your Savior. Hath everlasting life that instant.

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And shall not. come into condemnation, but is

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passed from death unto life. Oh, isn't that glorious?

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Every person who's been regenerated, every person

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who's had that born -again experience, whether

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they be Jew or Gentile, whether they be Catholic

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or Protestant, whoever that one is, Every born

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-again person has had a spiritual resurrection

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and hath passed from death unto life. Every time

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a soul is born again, there is a passing from

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death unto life, a spiritual resurrection. Now

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then, having finished, the national resurrection

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regarding Israel, having finished the spiritual

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resurrection, which concerns the passing from

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death unto life, we are going now into the material

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resurrection. And I shall begin my next heart

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-to -heart talk And exactly the very place where

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I will have to leave you today. Now, see something.

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When we come to this spiritual resurrection,

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this is regarding the dead body. Now, the spirit

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of man does not die. Do not think for one split

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second that the spirit or the soul of any man

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dies. It does not. At no time does the spirit

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die. When death comes to the body, the spirit

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goes back to God who gave it. If right now, even

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while I'm speaking to you, this split second,

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my whole heart would take its last beat. In that

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split second, As I'm sitting here on this chair

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before this microphone speaking to you, my body

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would topple from the chair and probably fall

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to the floor. But in that split second, quicker

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than you can blink your eye, my soul and my spirit

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would leave the body and would go back to God

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who gave it. In other words, Two -thirds of me

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would go, and only one -third would remain. That's

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all. For man is the trinity, body, soul, and

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spirit. The body goes back to the earth from

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whence it came. For man is a strange combination

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of the temporal and the eternal. The body is

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the temporal, but the soul and the spirit is

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eternal. Forever and forever and forever. And

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death never touches the spirit. It never touches

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the soul of man. You'd be amazed how many letters

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I receive regarding cremation. And I somehow

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have a feeling that when these folk write to

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me and speak of cremation, I often wonder if

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because of their insecurity, because of the fear

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of what may happen after death, they want their

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body to be cremated, to be dead sure, as sure

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as is humanly possible, that they are absolutely

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dead when they die, and that is the end of all

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things. There is no such thing as annihilation

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when it comes to the soul and the spirit of man.

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Your body can be cremated. Your body can return

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to ashes. And a physical body will return to

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the dust of the earth from whence it came. But

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no fire, no water, no power. will ever be able

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to destroy the soul and the spirit. For when

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death comes to the body, the soul and the spirit

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returns to God, goes back to God who gave it.

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Before I go deeper into this discussion regarding

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the resurrection of the body, I must make this

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very clear. And you must have a definite understanding

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as to what happens when death comes. How often

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I have seen folks stand before an open casket

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and weep. Oh, beloved, I have done likewise.

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We're human. Oh, beloved, how often I too have

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stood there with the tears raining down my face.

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But because of that glorious hope that you and

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I have in the Lord, because of my confidence

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in Him, I know that that one whose body is lying

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in the casket is not there. That's only the physical

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body. That's all. That body will go back to the

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earth. That body is only temporal. I'm not really

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looking upon that one who's lying there in that

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casket. Sure, I can recognize those features.

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I recognize the body. But the real person is

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not there. The soul and the person, that which

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gives personality. That which makes you separate

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and apart from everyone else, that which makes

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you, you, is gone. It is not there. I shall never

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forget when that became such a reality to my

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heart. I'll never forget it. Sure, I had preached

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on the resurrection. I had preached many a sermon

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on the resurrection. There was never an Easter.

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of what I had preached on the resurrection of

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the body, but it never became real to me until

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that day in that little Baptist church, Concordia,

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Missouri, when the church was emptied and no

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one was left but just Mama, my brother, my two

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sisters. the mortician, the preacher. Just before

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the lid was closed for the last time, I had an

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experience that I have never had since, and it

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was my first, when I reached over and laid my

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hand on Papa's shoulder, the shoulder on which

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I had laid my head. ever since childhood. And

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that I laid my head on that shoulder I had told

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him all my sorrows and all my troubles, all my

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woes. On that shoulder I felt comfort. No matter

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how terrific my toothache was or my earache,

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no sweet oil in that ear ever did for that earache

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what Papa's shoulder would do. No dentist ever

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gave relief to a child's aching tooth that my

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papa's shoulder would give to mine as I laid

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my face on that shoulder. No one ever received

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comfort from any human being as the comfort that

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I have received by just laying my head on papa's

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shoulder. In that moment, I laid my hand on that

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shoulder. But in that split second, I knew that

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was not Papa. Papa was not there. Sure that was

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his body. Sure, the world said, that's Joe Kuhlman.

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But my Papa. had left that body. My papa, the

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spirit, the soul of my papa, had gone all the

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way from earth to glory. As I stood there, that

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open grave, and saw them partially lower that

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casket in that little cemetery a mile and a quarter

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from town, I knew that was only the shell. No

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grave could hold my papa. No. When I lay those

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wreaths of flowers on that grave, I know that

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my papa is not there. He's very much alive. He's

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living. My papa and my mama are together. Dead?

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No. This isn't death. It's glory. It isn't grief.

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It's having one's last tear wiped away. Oh, beloved,

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it's the end to praying. It's speaking face to

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face with loved ones. It's meeting loved ones

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again. Beloved, it's the end of pleading. It's

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the end of pain. It's the end of sorrow. We'll

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not even have the memory of suffering. Beloved,

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it's even the end of faith. I think of that so

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often. In that moment, There'll no longer be

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such a thing as faith. You and I live by faith

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now. By faith, we must accept these things. By

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faith, we see him. I love him. I've given my

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life for him. But I have never seen him. I have

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talked with him. I have known his glorious presence

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more real to me than any human being that I have

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ever met in my life. And yet, I have never seen

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him. It's a life, it's a walk of faith. But in

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that day when my old heart takes its last beat,

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That day when they say death has come to the

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preacher lady. I will have preached my last sermon

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on faith. I will have taken that last step of

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faith. I will no longer even speak the word faith.

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For that which has been faith all of my life

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will have become death. A reality. Oh, to me,

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that's marvelous. That's real. That's that glorious

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resurrection. That's what it's all about. And

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then in that moment, remember something. My redemption

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will have been perfected. But you see, Miss Kuhlman,

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you're born again. You're a Christian now. I

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know. I know. But my redemption will not be perfected

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until that day when I stand in His glorious presence.

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That day when it is no longer a life, a walk

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of faith. That day. When I see Him face to face,

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in that moment, my redemption will have been

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perfected. Again, I say, I wouldn't exchange

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that glorious hope and that truth for a title

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deed to the whole world. God bless you.
