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We were discussing this thing of the carnal and

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the spiritual. And we've been asking the question,

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what is the difference between the spiritual

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man and the carnal man? One thing we were sure

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of, and that is the fact that both are in the

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body of Christ. Now, at first, I know that's

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very startling. extremely startling to those

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who have felt that anything that had to do with

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the carnals whatsoever could not be a part of

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the body of Christ. And yet, going back to the

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third chapter, 1 Corinthians, the first verse,

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Paul is saying, and I, brethren, and using that

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word brethren, we know that he's addressing those

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who are... in the body of Christ, or they never

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could have been his brethren. And it's just like

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that. And I, brethren, could not speak unto you

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as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as

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unto babes in Christ. I have fed you with milk,

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and not with meat, for hitherto ye were not able

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to bear it, neither yet now are ye able. For

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ye are yet carnal. For whereas there is among

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you in vain and strife and divisions, are ye

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not carnal and walk as men? Read the entire third

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chapter of 1 Corinthians. Then you'll remember

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that during that heart -to -heart talk, I went

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back again to, in my way of thinking, is one

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of the most beautiful portions of God's Word,

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the most wonderful Word that ever came from the

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pen of Paul. It's just one verse of Scripture.

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The 23rd verse of the 5th chapter of 1 Thessalonians.

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And this is where I left you. And the very God

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of peace sanctify you wholly, completely, entirely.

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And I pray God that your whole spirit and soul

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and body be preserved blameless unto the coming

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of our Lord Jesus Christ. Now, what is the difference

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between the spiritual and the carnal? Paul certainly

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knew human nature. Paul certainly understood

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men. And he prayed that their spirit and soul

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and body not just their body, not just the soul,

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not just the spirit, but spirit and soul and

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body be preserved entire without blame at the

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coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. Man is a trinity.

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You are a trinity. I am a trinity. I am not just

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body, neither are you just body. I am not just

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soul, neither are you just soul. You are not

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just spirit, neither am I just spirit. Man is

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the strange combination of body, soul, and spirit.

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If you are a part of humanity, you are a trinity.

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The combination of the spiritual and the temporal.

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But see something. The essential thing in human

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personality is not the body. And sometimes I

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think that we concentrate more on the body than

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any other part of our trinity. We live for the

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body. We work for the body. We concentrate on

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the body. We just cater to the body. Remember,

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God is a spirit and man is made in the divine

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likeness and man must worship in spirit of every

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person, every human being. Whether in the church

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or outside, the supreme fact is the spiritual

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fact. The spiritual factor is more important

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than any other part of man. There's nothing that's

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more important to you than the spiritual factor.

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What's wrong with the world today? There are

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millions who are asking that question. And we

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have just as many. As we have those who are asking

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that question, what is the matter with the world?

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Very simply, I give the answer that God's Word

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gives. It's because we have forgotten the spiritual

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side of man. Just pause for a moment. Consider.

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Millions today. are living who have completely

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forgotten the spiritual side of man. They have

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forgotten that they are a trinity, that they

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are more than body, that they are more than flesh,

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that they are more than the temporal. Every human

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being I don't care who that one is. If he is

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a part of humanity, if his heart beats, if there

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is a pulse, if there is life in that body, that

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man must face the fact that he is a trinity.

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He is more than the temple. He is more than flesh.

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He is the combination of temporal and eternal.

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He is body, soul, and spirit. And he has forgotten

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the spiritual part. What's the matter with the

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world? The world is made up of human beings.

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We talk about the world so loosely, and yet it

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is made up of human beings. We talk about our

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nation, about the United States of America. We

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think of it in terms of a nation, and yet a nation

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is made up of human beings. And no nation, no...

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nation in the world is stronger than its spiritual

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forces. And it's just like that. The United States

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of America. We may boast of our air power. We

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may boast of our navy. We may boast of the fact

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that so great has been our scientific ability

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that we've been the first to the moon. And yet,

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as a nation, We are no stronger than our spiritual

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forces. And no man is stronger than the emphasis

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that he has put on the spiritual part of his

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life and living. That's the most important thing

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in the world to you. I pause so that you might

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have time to consider. What emphasis have you

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put on? The spiritual part of you. There's the

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body. An equally definite factor. But the body

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is there as the instrument of the spirit. It's

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so simple. And through the body, the spirit receives

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and makes contact with others. Through the body,

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it expresses itself to others. In that wonderful

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spiritual experience, and when we talk about

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the new birth experience, remember, it's something

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that's spiritual. It's something that's individual.

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It's a transaction between the individual and

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God. Between the individual. and the Lord Jesus

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Christ. It's spiritual. No one can see that spiritual

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experience. But it's as real as God Himself.

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It's as real as Jesus Christ. And we stand justified

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before God by faith. Yet, that spiritual experience

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is evidenced through that individual and through

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that body by the Spirit. Therefore, we stand

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justified before man by the life that we live

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through the body. We talk about the Holy Spirit,

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but no man has seen the Holy Spirit. You know,

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and I say this reverently, I'm sold on the Holy

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Spirit. I cannot give a heart -to -heart talk.

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I can never stand behind the pulpit without speaking

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of the Holy Spirit. And yet, I have never seen

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the Holy Spirit. Neither have you seen the Holy

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Spirit. But you can see the Holy Spirit through

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my life as He gives... evidence of Himself through

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my body. And there is a place where literally

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we yield our body unto Him, and this body of

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ours becomes the temple of the Holy Spirit. Even

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though I cannot see the Holy Spirit, even though

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you cannot see the person, the visible person

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of the Holy Spirit, In this body of mine, yet

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he gives evidence of himself and his power through

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the body. As I yield the body unto him, and the

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same is true in that one who has surrendered

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his body to the Holy Spirit. Do you understand

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what I am saying? Pastor, it's nice to see you.

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The body is. important, vitally important, even

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though it is temporal. Yet the body is to be

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used as the instrument of the spirit, not only

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the Holy Spirit, but your spirit. For through

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the body, the spirit receives and makes contact

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with others. Through the body, it expresses itself

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to others. The body, An ideal personality in

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the divine economy is secondary. The body is

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so secondary and yet so important to the spirit.

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What's the soul? Oh, that's been discussed so

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much. And yet that too is so important. The soul,

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the consciousness. The mind, the intelligence

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is invested not in the body, but in the spirit.

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Now see something, and this is scriptural. God

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formed man of the dust of the ground. Now that

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is the body, but that is not the man. You look

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at me, you see my body, you pass me on the street,

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or you see me on the platform, or you greet me

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and say, as you look upon my body, that's Catherine

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Kuhlman. You know me by the color of my hair,

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the color of my eyes. Katharine Kuhlman. That's

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the body, but that's not really me. Follow me

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in the scripture. God formed man of the dust

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of the ground, and he breathed into his nostrils

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the breath, the breath of life. That is the spirit.

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And so man became a living, conscious soul. And

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here we have the combination of the temporal,

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that which goes back to the dust of the earth

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from whence it was formed, and we come back again

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to the spiritual, the eternal, that which continues

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forever and ever, the soul and the spirit. And

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so here we have three planes. The spirit. the

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mind, the body. And every man and every woman

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is living either being mastered by the body,

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which is the lower plane, or by the spirit, which

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is the higher plane. And the mind is affected

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by that part of personality to which the mastery

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of the person gives himself over to. If I...

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descend to the level of the material, if I consent

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to that, then all my thinking is fleshly. It's

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carnal. If I give my thinking, if I give my mind,

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if I give myself completely over to the body,

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to that which is temporal, then all my thinking

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is carnal. That's the Word of God. On the other

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hand, If I lift my whole personality to the spiritual,

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then my thinking is spiritual, and I'm mastered

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by the Spirit. Now, I'm not referring to the

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Spirit of God for the moment. Of course, He enters

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into the Christian experience, as I told you

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a moment ago. But remember, the Spirit of God

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comes when I am dead in trespasses and sins,

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and He gives me new life. And it is when the

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life of the indwelling spirit takes possession

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of my spirit that all comes under the domination

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of that spirit. It's so simple. It's just so

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simple that really a child can understand and

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yet I'm talking to thousands who have never caught

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that wonderful vision. of having yielded unto

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him all of you. You have permitted yourself to

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be mastered by the flesh. And you've used your

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body to satisfy the lusts of the flesh. This

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very moment, and that's exactly what's wrong

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with the world today. We have forgotten the spirit.

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And we're permitting the flesh to master our

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lives. The desires of the flesh to master our

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body. But we're more than flesh. We're more than

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body. What I'm talking about, what Paul is talking

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about, is not something that takes place after

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death. How often we like to think of consecration

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after death. No. He has not made us yet. He is

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making us now. Now, beloved, we are to present

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our bodies as a living sacrifice, wholly acceptable

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unto him which is... Our reasonable service,

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the most reasonable thing in the world. What

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Paul is writing about here in 1 Thessalonians,

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the fifth chapter, is here and now, not after

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death. And I come back again to that 23rd verse.

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And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly,

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completely. And I pray, God, that your whole

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spirit and soul and body and he names the spirit

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first. We have put everything first in this day.

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Accept the spirit. The spiritual. Your whole

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spirit and soul and body. Your whole body. Be

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preserved blameless. Not after death. No. Be

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preserved blameless unto the coming of the Lord

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Jesus Christ. That means now, today, this very

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moment. Preserved, kept. Oh, to me this is thrilling.

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This is marvelous. And he will preserve you if

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you are willing to be preserved. He will keep

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you if you're willing to be kept. Blameless.

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The greatest desire of my life is to see Jesus.

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I want to look upon the face of Jesus. And when

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I do, I want to be blameless. when I stand in

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his glorious presence.
