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Hey, everyone. Welcome to the show. Great to

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be diving into this one. Absolutely. Can you

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imagine a regime seemingly rock solid built on

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this? incredible force of personality and let's

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face it, military power. Suddenly just teetering

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right on the edge of collapse the moment its

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leader dies. It's a classic historical pressure

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point, isn't it? Yeah. That moment of transition.

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Exactly. And today we're diving right into that

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kind of historical drama, a moment where the

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unexpected death of a, well, a towering figure

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really unleashed this whirlwind of ambition,

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fear, and just this desperate scramble for order.

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We're talking about the death of Oliver Cromwell,

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of course. Yeah. And the chaotic period that

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followed. Precisely. This deep dive looks at

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that pivotal time in English history, you know,

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post -Civil War, heading towards the Restoration.

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It's a thrilling glimpse into the raw dynamics

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of power. The fragility beneath the surface.

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Totally. So if you're fascinated by those moments

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where history just hangs in the balance, and

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if you want to uncover some surprising insights

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into how societies cope when leadership vanishes.

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Or appears to vanish. Good point. Then be sure

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to like and subscribe for more deep dives like

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this one. We'll be using Henry Reese's book,

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The Fall, as a key guide here. It meticulously

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details the events after Cromwell's death. That's

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right. The Fall. Link is in the description if

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you wanted to check it out on Amazon. Prepare

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yourselves because you're going to see how quickly

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even the strongest authority can dissolve. And

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how unexpected people step up or try to. And

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how that deep, deep desire for just some kind

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of stability ultimately shapes a nation's future.

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It kicks off, fascinatingly, with this almost

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surreal quiet right after Oliver Cromwell dies.

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That's September 3rd, 1658. Okay. His son, Richard,

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is proclaimed protector in London the very next

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morning, September 4th. Very formal, very official.

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So it looks smooth on the surface. Remarkably

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so. The Privy Council manages transition within

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about 18 hours, which is pretty quick. Well,

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there's no clear hereditary succession principle

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here, not like a monarchy. And crucially, there

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wasn't definitive written proof that Oliver had

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actually nominated Richard under the terms of

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the humble petition and advice, the sort of constitution

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of the time. Ah, OK. So the legal basis was maybe

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a bit shaky or at least not explicitly documented

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right then? Potentially, yes. Yet outwardly,

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it's calm. So let's unpack that calm, because

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as you hinted and as Reese points out, underneath

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that quiet surface, there were huge anxieties

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beforehand about what would happen when Oliver

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died. Absolutely massive anxieties. You have

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figures like Thomas Fairfax noting the huge significance

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of the change, but also commenting on the, well,

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the quietness as if nothing had really happened.

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John Tillotson writing from London reported this

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deep sense of peace. People just didn't seem

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to notice any alteration. Which is just bizarre,

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given Cromwell's dominance, right? So what's

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going on? Is this genuine acceptance of Richard

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or is it something else? Relief, maybe? I think

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relief is a big part of it. That initial calm.

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It probably wasn't deep -seated acceptance of

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Richard himself. More like everyone collectively

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holding their breath relieved the immediate chaos

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hadn't erupted. Because the fear of chaos was

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real. Oh, absolutely. Six months before Oliver

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died, someone wrote, urging him to name a successor

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precisely to stop a chaos of confusion. John

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Thurlow, Cromwell's intelligence chief, a key

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insider. Right. He sensed... General consternation

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at the prospect of Oliver's death. He feared

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our own divisions far more than, say, a royalist

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comeback. Interesting. Internal collapse was

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the bigger worry. Exactly. Sir Archibald Johnston

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noted the great apprehensions before Oliver died,

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contrasting sharply with the lack of obvious

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grief or fear immediately after. Richard Baxter

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recalled Richard being quietly settled, even

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though many expected total confusion and discord.

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So the expectation was meltdown. Pretty much.

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George Downing called it a most surprising, astonishing

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mercy that things went so smoothly because many

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thought Oliver's death would open a wide door

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for Trey Stewart, Charles Stewart, the exiled

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king. Okay, so the key insight here is that contrast.

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The expected chaos versus the immediate, almost

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unsettling order. Precisely. It tells you a lot

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about the underlying fragility and fear beneath

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the protectorate's surface. That apparent ease

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reveals how the political nation, the people

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with influence, viewed the regime at that specific

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moment. So was it just relief or was there some

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level of genuine buy -in to the protectorate

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continuing, even under Richard? It's complex.

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There was probably a degree of pragmatic acceptance

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among some. They'd lived through immense upheaval.

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Civil wars, regime change. Exactly. Stability

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was likely the top priority for many. And Richard,

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initially at least, seemed to offer continuation.

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Plus, the government machinery, the Privy Council,

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acted quickly and decisively. That likely shut

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down any immediate challenges. And there wasn't

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a clear alternative ready to step in. Not one

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that commanded universal support, no. That definitely

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helped Richard in those first hours and days.

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Okay, but then it gets even more interesting

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because it wasn't just quiet acceptance. We see

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this flood, almost, of addresses and petitions

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coming in publicly backing Richard. Yes, a very

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public display of endorsement. Many of these

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declarations really hammered home the idea that

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Oliver himself had nominated Richard. Ah, so

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emphasizing legitimacy through Oliver's will.

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Right. They praised Richard's sweet and peaceable

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entrance. Some even used that biblical analogy,

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Richard, as Joshua taking over from Oliver's

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Moses. Powerful imagery. And they constantly

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cited the humble petition and advice as the legal

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basis for his succeeding his father. The address

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from the East Riding of Yorkshire was apparently...

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particularly over the top in its praise. Okay,

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but here's the kicker. Was this genuine popular

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support bubbling up? Yeah. Because Reese points

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out the Army Command was actually circulating

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templates for these addresses. Bingo. That certainly

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suggests, well, orchestration, doesn't it? It

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really does. A bit stage managed. The Army's

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hand is undeniable. The fact that civilian documents

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often use the exact same phrasing as the Army

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templates, that's more than coincidence. But

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it's not just the Army. Provincial elites saw

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an opportunity here, too. They had their own

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reasons to publicly back the new guy. Like what?

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Local interests? Absolutely. Exeter, for example,

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might have wanted to show they were cooperative

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now. Newcastle probably wanted to soothe worries

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about royalist sympathies in their area. York

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put on a big show to emphasize its own regional

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importance. So demonstrating loyalty, managing

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perceptions. And proven they could hold large

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gatherings without things getting out of hand.

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That was important, too. So it's a mix. Some

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genuine support, perhaps. Some calculated self

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-interest. Definitely some military pressure.

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And maybe not always deep enthusiasm, even when

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an address was sent. The example of Great Yarmouth

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is telling, right? Slow to endorse Richard, quick

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to back Charles a second later. Exactly. Allegiances

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were very fluid. It highlights the performative

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nature of much of this support. Right. A calculated

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performance. Now let's talk about Richard himself.

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He wasn't exactly groomed for this, was he? Not

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like his father trained him up. That's a really

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crucial point. Richard was 40 when he took over,

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so not some kid. He was apparently quite personable,

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easy manner, could give a decent speech. Okay,

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some skills. And he had been increasingly involved

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in public life from the mid -1650s. He got onto

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the Privy Council in December 1657. So some exposure.

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Yes, but those persistent rumors about him maybe

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heading the government in Scotland, they never

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happened. It hints maybe Oliver or others were

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hesitant to give him real executive power. Interesting.

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And the historian Henry Hallam made a really

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sharp observation. He contrasted Oliver's apparent

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lack of effort in preparing Richard for the top

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job with a very deliberate way he did prepare

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his other son, Henry, for his role running Ireland.

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So Henry got the real training Richard got? Well,

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he was chancellor of Oxford University. I guess

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so. Prestigious, yes. but hardly an apprenticeship

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for Lord Protector of Three Nations in Turmoil.

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Not quite the same skill set needed. So we have

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this guy, pleasant enough, some public profile,

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but lacking deep political and military experience,

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stepping into his father's massive shoes. And

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stepping into a situation dominated by the army.

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You simply can't talk about this period without

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focusing on the army. Which had been Oliver's

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power base, but also a source of trouble for

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him and clearly remained a potential problem

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for Richard. Absolutely. We know the protectorate

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collapses in April 1659 and the army is key to

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that. So it's easy to look back and see the army

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as Richard's opponent from day one. But it was

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more complex. Oh, yes. Tension between the Lord

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General Cromwell, then Richard, and senior officers

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was baked into the new model army from way back,

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at least 1647. Oliver himself had cashiered plenty

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of senior officers over the years. It wasn't

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some monolithic, obedient tool. It was politicized.

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Highly politicized. Yeah. With its own ideas,

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its own grievances, and one long -held belief

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within the army command was about keeping a really

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large officer corps more than strictly needed.

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Why? What was the logic there? Well, the official

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line was it made the army easier to manage in

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peacetime. And it meant you had experienced guys

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ready to step up if needed. Quick promotion.

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Makes some sense. But Henry Cromwell, Richard's

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brother in Ireland, he called it an expensive

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passion. He basically said it was about preserving

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jobs and patronage for the boys. A mix of military

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logic and self -interest, probably. An expensive

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passion, especially when the state was already

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struggling financially. Precisely. And that situation

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got massively worse because of Oliver's foreign

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policy. Specifically, the war with Spain. Ah,

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yes. Started in 1655. The protectorate probably

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could have afforded its armies without foreign

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wars. But the Spanish War blew spending sky high.

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How so? Huge increase in naval costs, obviously.

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Then there was the cost of garrisoning new territories

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like Jamaica and Dunkirk. The estimates Rees

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cites suggested added maybe 500 ,000 pounds to

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600 ,000 pounds a year to the budget. A colossal

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sum back then. Wow. And that hit hard. By April

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1659, the cost of the Navy in these overseas

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garrisons was actually more than the cost of

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the armies in England, Scotland, and Ireland

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combined. Incredible. So by the time Richard

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takes over, the financial situation, especially

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for the Navy, must have been desperate. Absolutely

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dire. The admiralty commissioners themselves

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reported in September 1658, just as Richard is

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becoming protector, that the Navy was on the

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brink of ruin. Why? What happened? Suppliers

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had lost confidence. They weren't getting paid.

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So they started demanding cash up front, which

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the government didn't have. A classic debt spiral.

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And the big reason for this collapse was successive

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cuts to the monthly assessment tax levied on

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England. That tax was vital. Right, the assessment

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tax. That seems key to the whole financial picture

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of the interregnum. Can you break that down a

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bit? Sure. The government had three main income

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sources. Customs duties, excise taxes, and this

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assessment tax. Customs and excise were fairly

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predictable, but they had natural limits. You

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can only tax trade so much. Exactly. The assessment

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tax, though, was the big variable. It was levied

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monthly on England, and the rate could be changed.

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Any changes had huge implications for how much

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military force the government could afford. So

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Cromwell knew cutting it would hurt. Oh, he understood

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the impact perfectly. But the tax was unpopular,

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politically sensitive. Still, its big attraction

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was efficiency. Low admin costs, people generally

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paid promptly, nonpayment wasn't a massive issue.

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Samuel Pepys later recorded Robert Blackburn,

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a key financial administrator, talking about

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how efficiently it was collected. But it was

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still a heavy burden. A very significant burden,

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especially compared to pre -war taxation levels.

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Reese gives an example from Hithe showing just

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how much it had increased. OK, so Richard inherits

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this situation. Shaky legitimacy, a politicized

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army with its own demands and absolutely dire

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finances worsened by war. Not exactly an easy

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start. Not at all. And then amidst all this,

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you get this really unexpected twist. Significant

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support for Richard coming from the political

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Presbyterians in the 1659 Parliament. To Presbyterians,

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weren't they often opponents of Cromwell? Excluded?

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Purged? Many of them were, yes. That's what's

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so remarkable. Guys who'd been kicked out during

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Pride's Purge in 1648 who'd opposed Cromwell

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in the 1654 Parliament, barred from the 1656

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one. Suddenly, in 1659, they're defending Richard's

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protectorate. Wow. Who are we talking about?

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Figures like Colonel John Birch, John Maynard,

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Samuel Gott. John Swinfen, men with serious political

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weight. And they weren't just passive supporters.

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They actively managed debates for Richard, arguing

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for the humble petition and advice. Why the sudden

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change of heart? What was their motivation? It

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seems overwhelmingly pragmatic. They feared the

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alternatives, total chaos or worse, direct military

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rule by the army radicals. So Richard was the

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lesser evil, a bulwark against the army. Essentially,

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yes. They focused on what Reese calls the negative

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virtues of the Humboldt petition, basically.

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The fact that it hadn't been imposed directly

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by the army. It represented for them a civilian

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constitution, however flawed. A kind of pragmatic

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constitutionalism. Exactly. And their leadership

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was effective, at least initially. They managed

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to bed in this civilian structure and the Republican

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opposition in parliament couldn't win key votes

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against them. So Charles Coote reported things

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becoming more serene with a possible path to

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a stable settlement. Fascinating. A temporary

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alliance of convenience driven by fear of the

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army. But the army wasn't just going to sit quietly,

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were they? They issued this humble representation.

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Right. April 6, 1659. This wasn't humble at all,

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really. It was a very strongly worded reminder

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to Richard and Parliament about the army's grievances.

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Hate and indemnity again. Top of the list. pay

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arrears and legal protection for things they'd

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done during the wars. They said they were breaking

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cover due to imminent dangers and necessities.

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Strong language. And significantly, they gave

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it to Richard on the 6th and had it printed and

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out on the streets the next morning. A very public

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power play. What was their goal? What do they

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want Parliament to do? They wanted Parliament

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to stop debating constitutional niceties and

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focus on their needs, pay, indemnity, national

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security, practical stuff. But Parliament had

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other priorities. And Parliament wasn't exactly

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thrilled by this, I imagine. That anti -military

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feeling. It just exploded. Once you had a full

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House sitting, that resentment found its voice.

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MPs saw the Army acting like a fourth estate,

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basically another branch of government, interfering

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with impudence. The Army meeting separately didn't

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help either. Not at all. That weakened the parliament's

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reputation. Richard did meet senior officers,

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told them their petition was being considered,

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and they should go back to their commands because

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MPs were unhappy and the cavalier threat was

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always there. How did that go down? Apparently,

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there were some pretty bad tempered exchanges.

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The gap between them was widening rapidly. And

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looking back, it seems Richard's handling of

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this whole escalating crisis between parliament

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and the army was, well, clumsy. Clumsy is one

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word. Ineffective, maybe? Hindsight is easy,

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of course. But Reese suggests that earlier, more

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decisive action might have made a difference.

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Letting the Army's general counsel meet while

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also letting the commons behave provocatively

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just infuriated the Army. So he alienated both

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sides. He seemed unable to control either. And

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when he finally did take a drastic stand. dissolving

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parliament on April 18th, Reese argues it was

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based on really misguided advice. Misguided how?

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His advisors seem to have massively overestimated

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how much actual support Richard had within the

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army itself. People like Nehemiah Bourne were

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scornful, saying the protector had no real pull

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with the soldiers. Lady Ranelagh was scathing.

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She said Richard provoked the army based on false

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promises from flatterers. And the core issue

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was Richard himself just didn't command that

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personal loyalty his father had. It seems not.

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There might have been some initial encouraging

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noises. Maybe Richard hinted he backed the army

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against Parliament over his role as Generalissimo.

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But it didn't translate into real support when

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push came to shove. Apparently not. Any chance

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of reconciliation probably evaporated completely

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with that parliamentary debate on April 21st,

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the one about who controls the militia. Ah, yes.

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That must have hit a nerve with the army, control

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of the armed forces. Absolutely fundamental.

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For parliament to even debate taking control

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of the militia away from the protector and the

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existing army structure. It was seen as the ultimate

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provocation, a direct challenge. Betrayal, even.

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That's how the army saw it. A clear sign Parliament

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wanted to supplant them with a new force loyal

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only to Parliament. Reese sees the fact this

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debate even happened as a massive failure of

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political management by Richard's court. And

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the inevitable result of all this escalating

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tension and mistrust. The dissolution of parliament.

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Yeah. Which Edward Montague, a key figure, later

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called a great and fundamental error. Others

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agreed. Hugh Peter lamented the trampling upon

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the authority of what he thought was the best

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parliament and most freely chosen. Even Richard

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reportedly knew it was his ruin and resisted

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it initially. So Parliament's gone. Richard's

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authority is collapsing. Where does he look for

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muscle? His brothers, Monk in Scotland, Henry

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in Ireland, Lockhart in Dunkirk, they commanded

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troops. On paper, yes. They looked like potential

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pillars of support. Monk, especially, owed his

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career to the Cromwells, generally seen as loyal.

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Lockhart wasn't keen on the rum Parliament that

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would soon return. Mountague, commanding the

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fleet, expressed fears and sorrow at the protectorate's

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fall. So why didn't they prop him up? A combination

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of things, it seems. Confusion news traveled

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slowly, events in London were chaotic, communication

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was poor. Then there were their own vulnerabilities,

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their own ambitions, perhaps. And critically,

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Richard's own passivity. He doesn't seem to have

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actively rallied them or given them clear direction.

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He just didn't act decisively. Apparently not.

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So that potential backing just... when untapped.

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It paints a picture of a leader totally out of

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his depth. And while historians might try to

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be more generous now, his contemporaries weren't

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holding back, were they? No, they were often

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brutal. Reese notes that while reappraisal is

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fair, maybe the rehabilitation has gone far enough.

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Contemporaries like Nathaniel Fiennes flat out

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blamed Richard's conduct. Lord Falkenberg scorned

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his lack of courage. Lucy Hutchinson famously

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said the job was too big for him, calling him

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a meek temperate and quiet man. Not the qualities

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needed right then. So Richard's effectively sidelined.

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Parliament is dissolved again. The army is back

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in the driving seat. What are their options now?

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The Council of Officers met on April 23rd. They

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debated three main paths forward. One, try to

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keep governing under the existing humble petition

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and advice somehow. Two, recall the rump parliament,

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the one they'd kicked out years before. Three.

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Try to create some entirely new form of government.

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Radical options on the table. There was even

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talk of the army just raising money itself without

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any parliament. Extraordinary. Recalling the

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rump wasn't the obvious or most popular choice,

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though. Why not? Lady Ranelagh put it well. The

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rump was remembered as much for its failings

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as its merits. But they needed to act fast. Why

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the urgency? Fear of royalist uprisings flaring

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up. The likelihood of peace between France and

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Spain, which could free up foreign powers to

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intervene. And, fundamentally, no money. Army

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and Navy finances were collapsing. So the rum

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seemed the quickest, maybe the only viable path

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to some kind of legitimacy. Seems that's how

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they saw it. And as part of that, they quickly

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agreed to restore commands to officers to a brisk.

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Oliver Cromwell had previously removed Lambert,

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Oakey, Sanders, Packer, a signal of change within

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the Army itself. And recalling the rump must

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have energized the Republican opposition that

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had been simmering away. Absolutely. You could

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see organized opposition brewing from at least

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February 1658 with that Republican petition.

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The one that forced Oliver to dissolve his second

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parliament. That's the one. Talk about the good

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old righteous cause. We don't know exactly who

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wrote it, but it had prominent radical signatories

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like Henry Jesse, Hansard Nollis. And it wasn't

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secret they printed copies, circulated them openly.

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How much support did it have? Josias Berners

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claimed 10 ,000 subscribers, mainly from the

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separated churches, the independent congregations.

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They had surprisingly effective networks. So

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the rump returns. What's the reaction across

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the country? Celebration. Dread. A real mix.

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Many were deeply unhappy. William Lawrence called

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it a dreadful change. Henry Newcomb thought it

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would be a scourge to the nation. James Sharp

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noted pamphlets appearing that basically equated

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Presbyterians and Cavaliers as joint enemies

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of the rump. Robert Bailey feared for the established

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church. So lots of opposition. Yes, but interestingly,

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some royalists were apparently appalled too.

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Why? Wouldn't they welcome more chaos? Because

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they recognized the rump, for all its flaws,

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could govern effectively. They feared it might

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actually succeed and stabilize things, which

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would kill off hopes for a quick restoration

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of the king. Huh. That's ironic. But despite

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the mixed welcome, the rump moved fast to secure

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its power, especially militarily. Very fast.

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Very decisively. Monk, up in Scotland, was watching

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correspondence like a hawk. Across England, they

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clamped down hard. Hundreds of suspected royalists

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or potential troublemakers were arrested. Names

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like Howard, Hollis, Rug Popup. And in London.

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Full -on military occupation, essentially. Army

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guards everywhere, militia patrols ramped up,

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weapon checks, river patrols on the Thames, searches

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for horses to stop insurgents moving quickly.

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They weren't messing around. Not at all. Even

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the inns of court got searched. Gunsmith shops

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had their arms secured. Householders had to account

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for every lodger, every apprentice. Ferry travel

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was restricted, passes needed. Security got so

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tight, royalists just had to go to ground. Colonel

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Barkstead felt confident they had abundantly

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broken any immediate plots. And this wasn't just

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brute force they were coordinating information

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to. Yes, systematically. The Council of State

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sent regular updates to Monk in Scotland, commissioners

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in Ireland, Lockhart in Dunkirk, Downing in the

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Netherlands. Downing got weekly news summaries.

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Keeping everyone on message. And informed. News

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of Lambert defeating Booth's Rising was spread

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quickly. Officers in Scotland relayed news to

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Highland Lairds. The council demanded frequent

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updates for the localities too. Lambert, when

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campaigning, was sending messengers back to London

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multiple times a day. Impressive communication

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for the time. And just like with Richard, we

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see petitions being organized, this time in support

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of the rump. We do. And just like before, royalists

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scoffed, saying they were composed at Westminster.

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Not spontaneous. Same old story. And recent research

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suggests these petitions did share a family likeness

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in their wording, hinting at central coordination

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again. The actual scale of support is hard to

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gauge. You hear figures like many thousands above

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a thousand. The only one that survives with actual

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names from Buckinghamshire has about 800 signatories.

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So some organized support, but maybe not a massive

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popular wave. What about the more radical elements?

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Were they energized by the Rump's return? Hugely.

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You see, impressive recruitment for local militias,

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driven by pure commitment, not pay, a real sense

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of engagement. And those senior army officers

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Oliver had turged. They came flooding back, seeking

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vindication, expecting to get their old commands

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back. A sense of restoration for them, too. And

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a belief among many radicals that God himself

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had restored the rump. People like John Reed

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in Dorset, George Joyce in London, were active

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again, pushing for control of the militias to

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be given only to the faithful. Though there were

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grumbles that some MPs weren't thorough enough

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in purging unreliable figures from command. So

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despite the challenges, the Rump seemed to have

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a pretty firm grip initially. The failure of

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the royalist risings suggests that. It does suggest

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their grip was stronger than perhaps later historians

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assumed. They could mobilize supporters. They

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had administrative competence. They had an imposing

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army, at least initially. And they had constitutional

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authority, however contested. Effective opposition

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needed more than just discontent. It needed coordination

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and legitimacy. But that army unity, it was always

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fragile, wasn't it? And it fractures again. It

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does. After the Army interrupts Parliament again

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in October 1659, the Army leadership tries to

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blame the rump for the chaos that follows. But

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Parliament supporters hit back, pointing out

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that Army officers actually had a majority on

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the committee responsible for Army appointments,

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basically saying, you guys are partly responsible

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for this mess, too. And even within the rump

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itself, key figures started pulling in different

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directions. Hesselridge and Vane. Yes, they'd

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worked together initially. But by September 59,

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clear differences emerged. Loyalty to the Commonwealth

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ideal, religious toleration, the whole constitutional

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setup, they disagreed. Vane seemed to favor consensus,

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tweeting to avoid a complete break with the army,

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which he saw as disastrous. While Hesselridge

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was more confrontational. Appeared to be. Lord

00:25:10.619 --> 00:25:12.660
Warriston recorded trying to talk Vane down,

00:25:12.819 --> 00:25:14.680
telling him not to take too much offense at the

00:25:14.680 --> 00:25:16.700
army. It shows the tightrope Vane was walking.

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And these divisions were reflected within the

00:25:18.660 --> 00:25:21.240
army, too. Officers getting removed who had actually

00:25:21.240 --> 00:25:24.319
supported the rump's return. Exactly. Officers

00:25:24.319 --> 00:25:26.680
like Ashfield and Packer were removed in October,

00:25:26.880 --> 00:25:29.359
even though they'd backed the rump. But they'd

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also promoted petitions criticizing some of Parliament's

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actions. Packer's a good example. A defender

00:25:34.599 --> 00:25:37.160
of Parliament, but alienated by hostility towards

00:25:37.160 --> 00:25:39.759
his fellow officers. He'd opposed Richard Cromwell

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and publicly repented for it earlier. Complex

00:25:42.460 --> 00:25:45.660
loyalties all around. So October 1659, the army

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dissolves the rump again. They set up this committee

00:25:48.160 --> 00:25:51.220
of safety. Did they have a clear plan this time?

00:25:51.779 --> 00:25:54.299
Apparently not. Nedim's description of the army

00:25:54.299 --> 00:25:58.109
in 1653, irresolution and unpreparedness. Reese

00:25:58.109 --> 00:26:01.430
suggests it applied just as well in 1659. They

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issued a declaration justifying themselves, but

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no clear roadmap. Unlike Cromwell in 53, who

00:26:06.750 --> 00:26:09.789
set up councils. Right. Cromwell avoided immediate

00:26:09.789 --> 00:26:12.490
elections, deemed too risky, set up a council

00:26:12.490 --> 00:26:15.029
of state and a council of officers. The parallels

00:26:15.029 --> 00:26:16.809
are limited, though. Monk's presence looms large

00:26:16.809 --> 00:26:19.309
in 59, and the army arguably had fewer options.

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And the leadership within the army, specifically

00:26:21.150 --> 00:26:23.150
Charles Fleetwood, the commander -in -chief,

00:26:23.269 --> 00:26:25.750
he seems quite weak in this critical moment.

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Fleetwood does seem overwhelmed. He relied heavily

00:26:29.089 --> 00:26:32.230
on God and Cromwell's legacy rather than decisive

00:26:32.230 --> 00:26:34.769
action. He'd been a capable number two under

00:26:34.769 --> 00:26:37.549
Oliver, even disagreed with him sometimes, but

00:26:37.549 --> 00:26:39.309
he wasn't a natural leader in his own right.

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Lacked decisiveness. And maybe oversight. There's

00:26:42.619 --> 00:26:44.299
that story about his wife, Bridget, getting involved

00:26:44.299 --> 00:26:46.259
with the Derby petition without him seeming fully

00:26:46.259 --> 00:26:49.579
aware. Clarendon's account paints him as pious

00:26:49.579 --> 00:26:52.539
but paralyzed by indecision as the Committee

00:26:52.539 --> 00:26:55.259
of Safety crumbled. Ultimately, he failed the

00:26:55.259 --> 00:26:57.240
people who looked at him for leadership. While

00:26:57.240 --> 00:26:59.960
Fleetwood flounders in London, what about Hesselridge,

00:27:00.200 --> 00:27:02.859
the staunch rumper? He apparently retreated to

00:27:02.859 --> 00:27:05.420
his estate completely in despair of doing anything.

00:27:05.579 --> 00:27:07.880
He feared raising troops would just help the

00:27:07.880 --> 00:27:12.069
Royalists. He preferred... to close with the

00:27:12.069 --> 00:27:14.329
army in all their exorbitances rather than risk

00:27:14.329 --> 00:27:17.369
more division. Even the rump's own council estate

00:27:17.369 --> 00:27:20.029
hesitated to act decisively, according to Clarges.

00:27:20.190 --> 00:27:22.490
And Monk, still up in Scotland. Still there,

00:27:22.650 --> 00:27:26.190
but in a tricky spot by early December. Lambert's

00:27:26.190 --> 00:27:28.430
army facing him was larger, more experienced.

00:27:28.869 --> 00:27:31.970
Monk's position looked precarious. Yet somehow,

00:27:32.230 --> 00:27:34.930
the rump comes back, and the army's authority

00:27:34.930 --> 00:27:38.799
just evaporates. Why? Largely, it seems, due

00:27:38.799 --> 00:27:40.839
to this paralysis of will in the army leadership

00:27:40.839 --> 00:27:43.599
in London. Monk must have seemed like a threat

00:27:43.599 --> 00:27:47.000
to various groups, though. Oh, definitely. Lambert's

00:27:47.000 --> 00:27:49.039
troops were probably eager to march into Scotland.

00:27:49.380 --> 00:27:52.000
The independent churches were very wary of Monk,

00:27:52.019 --> 00:27:54.440
fearing he'd roll back their freedoms. Royalists,

00:27:54.460 --> 00:27:56.400
meanwhile, got their hopes up based on some of

00:27:56.400 --> 00:27:58.940
his statements. Baptists down in Cornwall were

00:27:58.940 --> 00:28:00.680
complaining about royalists getting too bold.

00:28:00.940 --> 00:28:03.380
That dread of a royalist restoration actually

00:28:03.380 --> 00:28:05.500
pushed Monk's own negotiators towards making

00:28:05.500 --> 00:28:08.400
a deal with the English army. Interesting. But

00:28:08.400 --> 00:28:10.720
Fleetwood and Lambert, instead of confronting

00:28:10.720 --> 00:28:13.500
Monk militarily, tried to accommodate him. It

00:28:13.500 --> 00:28:16.559
seems so. Despite efforts by figures like John

00:28:16.559 --> 00:28:19.420
Owen to sway Monk, they didn't denounce him outright.

00:28:19.660 --> 00:28:22.500
They allowed Clarges, Monk's man, to travel north

00:28:22.500 --> 00:28:24.940
and negotiate. It suggests they recognized their

00:28:24.940 --> 00:28:27.059
own weakness and wanted to avoid an army civil

00:28:27.059 --> 00:28:30.200
war. And then comes the game changer, Portsmouth.

00:28:30.940 --> 00:28:33.960
Hessleridge and two other dismissed rump MPs

00:28:33.960 --> 00:28:37.779
show up there in disguise. December 3rd. 1659.

00:28:38.059 --> 00:28:41.339
A massive moment. The governor, Nathaniel Witham,

00:28:41.420 --> 00:28:44.619
declares for Parliament. Suddenly, the Rumpers

00:28:44.619 --> 00:28:47.660
have control of a major port city. And that tipped

00:28:47.660 --> 00:28:50.599
the balance. Decisively. Within three weeks,

00:28:50.720 --> 00:28:52.640
Hesselridge marches towards London with about

00:28:52.640 --> 00:28:56.119
5 ,000 soldiers. That, plus the Navy defecting

00:28:56.119 --> 00:28:58.500
to Parliament's side, just completely broke the

00:28:58.500 --> 00:29:00.660
Committee of Safety's military government. The

00:29:00.660 --> 00:29:03.200
officers in London lost their nerve. As Maesden

00:29:03.200 --> 00:29:05.859
put it, their wheels fell off. Portsmouth was

00:29:05.859 --> 00:29:07.859
the occasion that brought us hitter back to the

00:29:07.859 --> 00:29:10.579
rump. But did Portsmouth inspire other places

00:29:10.579 --> 00:29:13.460
to rise up for the rump? Not really, no. There

00:29:13.460 --> 00:29:15.680
were some failed attempts in Kent. A few horsemen

00:29:15.680 --> 00:29:17.559
fought their way into Portsmouth, but suckered

00:29:17.559 --> 00:29:19.779
losses. The rump commissioners were effectively

00:29:19.779 --> 00:29:21.960
sealed off there. Claims other towns declared

00:29:21.960 --> 00:29:24.819
for them were mostly false. London's city government

00:29:24.819 --> 00:29:27.660
stayed neutral. London staying neutral is key.

00:29:28.099 --> 00:29:30.960
Hugely. The commissioners even wrote asking for

00:29:30.960 --> 00:29:33.700
a safe place in London for MPs to meet, but got

00:29:33.700 --> 00:29:35.750
silence back. They actually considered moving

00:29:35.750 --> 00:29:38.309
Parliament to Portsmouth. It shows how isolated

00:29:38.309 --> 00:29:40.490
they were initially. And that tension between

00:29:40.490 --> 00:29:43.509
the rump and the city of London? Yeah. It ran

00:29:43.509 --> 00:29:45.829
deep, didn't it? The city leadership was often

00:29:45.829 --> 00:29:49.069
Presbyterian, not keen on the rump's radicalism.

00:29:49.230 --> 00:29:52.309
Exactly. A prickly distance is how Rees describes

00:29:52.309 --> 00:29:54.430
it. They might cooperate on security against

00:29:54.430 --> 00:29:57.329
royalists, but fundamentally there was distrust.

00:29:58.120 --> 00:30:00.299
Flashpoints over the city's rights, customs,

00:30:00.440 --> 00:30:02.799
and especially Parliament, trying to use London's

00:30:02.799 --> 00:30:05.539
militia outside London. Parliament backed down

00:30:05.539 --> 00:30:07.519
on that initially. But then the rump provoked

00:30:07.519 --> 00:30:09.759
them. By trying to force John Ireton to serve

00:30:09.759 --> 00:30:12.319
a second year as Lord Mayor. The city united

00:30:12.319 --> 00:30:14.680
against that, and the rump had to back down again.

00:30:14.799 --> 00:30:17.180
A very strained relationship. But Portsmouth

00:30:17.180 --> 00:30:19.480
ultimately was enough to break the military government

00:30:19.480 --> 00:30:22.700
in London. Yes. The stalemate between Fleetwood

00:30:22.700 --> 00:30:24.480
and Admiral Lawson's fleet became irrelevant.

00:30:25.230 --> 00:30:27.990
The final nail was probably Major John Bremen,

00:30:28.130 --> 00:30:30.349
part of the force besieging Portsmouth for the

00:30:30.349 --> 00:30:32.789
Committee of Safety, defecting on December 20th.

00:30:32.869 --> 00:30:35.809
Another failure of leadership by Fleetwood, allowing

00:30:35.809 --> 00:30:38.009
potentially mutinous officers like Bremen and

00:30:38.009 --> 00:30:40.289
Rich to keep commands. It looks like negligence,

00:30:40.309 --> 00:30:43.170
yes. Bremen had a long radical history going

00:30:43.170 --> 00:30:46.829
back to 1647. His defection just triggered a

00:30:46.829 --> 00:30:49.089
wider collapse of the army's will. So the rump

00:30:49.089 --> 00:30:52.930
returns triumphant and ready for revenge. That

00:30:52.930 --> 00:30:56.710
was the fear. and it seems, the reality. Jono

00:30:56.710 --> 00:30:59.049
and Warnmonk, a restored rump, would seek retribution.

00:30:59.849 --> 00:31:02.970
Weriston sensed a judgmental mood. The main target.

00:31:03.130 --> 00:31:04.970
The army in England that had kicked him out.

00:31:05.049 --> 00:31:07.849
A purge. A big one. Hesselridge, Morley, and

00:31:07.849 --> 00:31:10.509
Watton, the heroes of Portsmouth, ratified Monk's

00:31:10.509 --> 00:31:13.230
purges in his own army and removed officers in

00:31:13.230 --> 00:31:15.890
England deemed politically suspect based on their

00:31:15.890 --> 00:31:18.470
actions. Not just intentions, actions. Harsh.

00:31:19.089 --> 00:31:21.650
Very. Officers pleaded for mercy, some in the

00:31:21.650 --> 00:31:24.170
army argued for forgiveness, but clemency wasn't

00:31:24.170 --> 00:31:26.740
on the rump's agenda, according to Ludlow. Many

00:31:26.740 --> 00:31:28.740
lost commissions just for following orders or

00:31:28.740 --> 00:31:31.220
having the wrong family connections. Officers

00:31:31.220 --> 00:31:33.599
were scrambling for powerful patrons, huge turnover,

00:31:33.779 --> 00:31:35.799
even among those the rump itself had commissioned

00:31:35.799 --> 00:31:38.660
just months before. Soldiers ended up under totally

00:31:38.660 --> 00:31:42.000
unfamiliar officers. A destabilized army. And

00:31:42.000 --> 00:31:44.299
meanwhile, Monk is marching south from Scotland.

00:31:44.559 --> 00:31:47.059
Still unclear what he's really planning. Very

00:31:47.059 --> 00:31:50.519
unclear. On January 3rd, he declares he's moving

00:31:50.519 --> 00:31:52.440
into England because he heard Lambert was marching

00:31:52.440 --> 00:31:54.579
back to London against Parliament. He gets to

00:31:54.579 --> 00:31:58.200
York. Pauses on January 12th. Was he planning

00:31:58.200 --> 00:32:01.920
a restoration yet? Probably not definitively.

00:32:01.980 --> 00:32:04.180
What did he believe in? Parliamentary government,

00:32:04.240 --> 00:32:07.359
it seems. But maybe not this rump. His instincts

00:32:07.359 --> 00:32:10.160
were closer to the MPs secluded back in 48, the

00:32:10.160 --> 00:32:13.140
Presbyterians. He resented attempts to mess with

00:32:13.140 --> 00:32:15.400
his regiments. He wasn't impressed by the support

00:32:15.400 --> 00:32:17.160
he'd got from the old Council of State. So he

00:32:17.160 --> 00:32:20.279
kept his options open. Very much so. His instructions

00:32:20.279 --> 00:32:22.279
for negotiating with the English army included

00:32:22.279 --> 00:32:24.839
provisions for a new parliament. He told his

00:32:24.839 --> 00:32:26.880
own troops he wanted a parliament chosen by the

00:32:26.880 --> 00:32:29.759
people and protected from violence. The Speaker's

00:32:29.759 --> 00:32:32.319
acknowledgement from London was lukewarm. Monk

00:32:32.319 --> 00:32:34.200
clearly doubted the rump could settle the nation.

00:32:34.380 --> 00:32:36.819
He sent his chaplain Gumbel to London to suss

00:32:36.819 --> 00:32:38.539
out the designs and affections of the people

00:32:38.539 --> 00:32:42.059
in power while he continued south, slowly. Taking

00:32:42.059 --> 00:32:45.740
his time. And while he marches, that call for

00:32:45.740 --> 00:32:48.259
a free parliament gets louder and louder. Yes,

00:32:48.400 --> 00:32:51.119
it had emerged during Booth's rising, but now

00:32:51.119 --> 00:32:54.279
gains real momentum. It appealed to lots of people,

00:32:54.339 --> 00:32:56.339
especially in the Northwest, who just wanted

00:32:56.339 --> 00:32:59.380
proper parliamentary rule, not necessarily the

00:32:59.380 --> 00:33:02.259
king back immediately. Who supported it? A coalition.

00:33:03.259 --> 00:33:05.420
Presbyterians, some royalists, united mainly

00:33:05.420 --> 00:33:07.519
by opposition to the rump and its interfering

00:33:07.519 --> 00:33:10.799
army, those secluded Presbyterian MPs saw their

00:33:10.799 --> 00:33:13.200
chance to reverse the purge, get back into parliament,

00:33:13.420 --> 00:33:15.799
and maybe steer things towards a limited monarchy.

00:33:16.059 --> 00:33:18.420
They disliked the rump more than they distrusted

00:33:18.420 --> 00:33:20.819
the royalists. At this point, yes. And the exiled

00:33:20.819 --> 00:33:23.480
royal court saw the opening. They authorized

00:33:23.480 --> 00:33:26.160
talks with Presbyterians, hoping free parliament

00:33:26.160 --> 00:33:27.900
would become a stepping stone to restoration.

00:33:28.319 --> 00:33:30.920
Deal with the details later. But this free parliament

00:33:30.920 --> 00:33:34.039
movement... Rees suggests it wasn't as powerful

00:33:34.039 --> 00:33:36.400
or widespread as sometimes portrayed. Compared

00:33:36.400 --> 00:33:38.839
to the 1648 movement for a treaty with the king,

00:33:39.059 --> 00:33:42.220
it seems weaker. Nearly half of English counties

00:33:42.220 --> 00:33:45.859
produced no declaration for it in 1660. London

00:33:45.859 --> 00:33:48.640
hesitated, didn't lead. Big towns were cautious.

00:33:49.220 --> 00:33:51.240
Magistrates often suppressed demonstrations.

00:33:51.700 --> 00:33:53.819
And some of the evidence for support is dodgy.

00:33:53.920 --> 00:33:56.690
Yes. Some publications claiming support were

00:33:56.690 --> 00:33:59.650
misleading or false. Petitions with iffy numbers

00:33:59.650 --> 00:34:01.950
or origins, like from Leicestershire and London,

00:34:02.130 --> 00:34:04.970
at least four supposed county declarations were

00:34:04.970 --> 00:34:08.010
probably fakes. Propagandists like Roger Lestrange

00:34:08.010 --> 00:34:10.250
and William Prynne were very active, sometimes

00:34:10.250 --> 00:34:12.969
using false names, making it hard to gauge genuine

00:34:12.969 --> 00:34:15.769
feeling. So Mike is approaching London. The free

00:34:15.769 --> 00:34:18.389
parliament call is growing, but maybe patchily.

00:34:18.510 --> 00:34:21.420
How does the rump react to Monk now? After Monk's

00:34:21.420 --> 00:34:24.079
blunt letter of February 11th, they finally realized

00:34:24.079 --> 00:34:26.460
they had to engage seriously. They started talking

00:34:26.460 --> 00:34:28.559
about their serious intentions for a full and

00:34:28.559 --> 00:34:30.639
lasting settlement. The council tried to narrow

00:34:30.639 --> 00:34:32.539
the gap. They wanted Monk to move his troops

00:34:32.539 --> 00:34:35.219
to Whitehall. Better communication, show unity.

00:34:35.539 --> 00:34:38.340
Conciliatory noises. Lots of them. Efforts to

00:34:38.340 --> 00:34:41.239
find money for the London regiments. Warm words

00:34:41.239 --> 00:34:44.300
about restoring the city's rights. Crucially,

00:34:44.420 --> 00:34:46.619
they dropped that oath of abjuration for council

00:34:46.619 --> 00:34:50.000
members. The one renouncing the stewards. A big

00:34:50.000 --> 00:34:54.079
concession. But this reasonableness, it might

00:34:54.079 --> 00:34:56.079
have worried Monk, things moving too fast towards

00:34:56.079 --> 00:34:58.590
a settlement he didn't control. Possibly. He

00:34:58.590 --> 00:35:00.469
needed to keep control of the pace. And then

00:35:00.469 --> 00:35:02.769
the secluded Presbyterian members are readmitted

00:35:02.769 --> 00:35:05.190
to Parliament in late February. What were their

00:35:05.190 --> 00:35:07.769
aims? Were they all on the same page? Impossible

00:35:07.769 --> 00:35:10.670
to know for sure individually. Some probably

00:35:10.670 --> 00:35:13.269
genuinely wanted a new, freely elected Parliament.

00:35:13.690 --> 00:35:15.750
Others might have just told Monk that to get

00:35:15.750 --> 00:35:18.210
back in, planning something else. Each of those

00:35:18.210 --> 00:35:22.250
73 MPs meeting Monk on Feb 21st was likely calculating

00:35:22.250 --> 00:35:25.070
their own best move. And their return just created

00:35:25.070 --> 00:35:27.969
more tension within Parliament. Absolutely. Rumpers

00:35:27.969 --> 00:35:30.630
like Thomas Scott hated it. And by early March,

00:35:30.809 --> 00:35:32.369
some of those secluded members were apparently

00:35:32.369 --> 00:35:34.449
thinking of breaking their deal with Monk and

00:35:34.449 --> 00:35:36.750
not calling a new parliament, trying to hang

00:35:36.750 --> 00:35:38.949
on to power themselves. So the long parliament

00:35:38.949 --> 00:35:42.519
might just keep sitting. That was the fear. Peeps

00:35:42.519 --> 00:35:45.039
heard talk of a doubtful posture. People wanted

00:35:45.039 --> 00:35:48.159
to retain power. Rumors flew Monk seizing power.

00:35:48.440 --> 00:35:51.380
Monk restoring Richard Cromwell. The long parliament

00:35:51.380 --> 00:35:54.119
staying put. The initial welcome for the secluded

00:35:54.119 --> 00:35:56.679
members turned into suspicion they'd just entrenched

00:35:56.679 --> 00:35:59.380
themselves. But Monk wasn't having it. He pushes

00:35:59.380 --> 00:36:02.360
for dissolution. He did. He urged them to dissolve

00:36:02.360 --> 00:36:05.500
and call elections. Pressure mounted. There were

00:36:05.500 --> 00:36:07.780
reports Monk even discussed his opposition to

00:36:07.780 --> 00:36:09.820
the late king with the royalist court, probably

00:36:09.820 --> 00:36:12.480
to reassure Presbyterians. Finally, on March

00:36:12.480 --> 00:36:16.400
16th, 1660, they voted to dissolve. New Parliament

00:36:16.400 --> 00:36:20.179
to meet April 25th. A momentous day. Huge. And

00:36:20.179 --> 00:36:22.480
before the vote, many MPs rushed to declare Charles

00:36:22.480 --> 00:36:25.920
I's execution an execrable act, covering their

00:36:25.920 --> 00:36:28.360
backsides. Robert Reynolds gave a long speech

00:36:28.360 --> 00:36:30.980
justifying himself. Only Thomas Scott stood by

00:36:30.980 --> 00:36:33.179
the regicide. Still some resistance to Monk.

00:36:33.260 --> 00:36:35.019
Displeasure that he opposed restoring the House

00:36:35.019 --> 00:36:37.300
of Lords. They added a clause to the dissolution

00:36:37.300 --> 00:36:39.860
bill preserving the Lords' rights. And then...

00:36:40.199 --> 00:36:42.579
The so -long -lived parliament finally expired.

00:36:42.800 --> 00:36:47.199
And any last gasp of military resistance? Blambered.

00:36:47.280 --> 00:36:49.920
His attempt at an insurrection against Munk failed

00:36:49.920 --> 00:36:53.739
completely. Captured back in the tower by Easter

00:36:53.739 --> 00:36:57.800
Tuesday, April 24th. All almost without a drop

00:36:57.800 --> 00:37:01.420
of blood. The game was up. This whole last year

00:37:01.420 --> 00:37:03.639
of the republic, Reese emphasizes the incredible

00:37:03.639 --> 00:37:07.260
confusion, the... fog of information. It must

00:37:07.260 --> 00:37:09.559
have been impossible to know what was really

00:37:09.559 --> 00:37:11.420
happening. Terribly difficult. Communication

00:37:11.420 --> 00:37:15.519
was slow, unreliable. News was manipulated. A

00:37:15.519 --> 00:37:18.219
contemporary said, never was more said and less

00:37:18.219 --> 00:37:20.760
known. Newspapers complained about the abuse

00:37:20.760 --> 00:37:23.239
of press freedom as much impedance as ignorance.

00:37:23.579 --> 00:37:26.650
Rumors everywhere. Constant wild rumors. Richard

00:37:26.650 --> 00:37:29.489
Cromwell dying. Henry Cromwell lost at sea. Charles

00:37:29.489 --> 00:37:31.789
Stewart landing here, there, everywhere. James

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Naylor made governor of Bristol. Even rumors

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the Rumper commissioners had joined Monk. Each

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side in the army spun its own version of events.

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They couldn't even agree how many towns followed

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Portsmouth's lead. People didn't trust printed

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news. Widespread mistrust. Forgeries, false attributions

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were common. Fleetwood had to publicly deny saying

00:37:49.000 --> 00:37:51.380
things attributed to him. Even genuine letters

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were suspected. Calculated propaganda from Clarges.

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Masked propaganda from the English army. Pamphlets

00:37:57.179 --> 00:37:59.739
with fake authors, Lestrange and Prynne, were

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masters of disguise. And amidst this swirling

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confusion, a massive military presence everywhere.

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Troops were everywhere. Maybe 28 ,000 regulars

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by late 1659. Military actions dotted the country

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over Tennant Hall, the siege of Portsmouth. But

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whose side were they on? Often unfathomable,

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like this situation in Taunton. And restoring

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civilian government didn't mean fewer soldiers.

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Ironically, no. Numbers actually went up to nearly

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39 ,000 by February 1660, which meant heavy billeting,

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troops taking free quarter, civil disorder aggravated,

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apprentice riots in Bristol, clashes between

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civilians and soldiers after Monk's letter, and

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the MP's return. So confusion, misinformation,

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troops everywhere with unclear loyalties. No

00:38:42.389 --> 00:38:45.119
wonder people felt passive, afraid to act. Exactly.

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Civilians were in a fear to act anything. Political

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passivity set in among politicians too. Lentol

00:38:51.739 --> 00:38:54.659
reluctant to take his seat as speaker. MPs developing

00:38:54.659 --> 00:38:57.739
convenient illnesses. Even Lucy Hutchinson wanted

00:38:57.739 --> 00:39:00.360
out of partisan politics. Sir John Bennett just

00:39:00.360 --> 00:39:02.880
pleaded to be left alone to live quietly. And

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public reactions to all this. Peeps famously

00:39:05.260 --> 00:39:07.920
describes London going wild with joy when Monk

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declared for a free parliament. Yes, bonfires

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and bell ringing in London. But outside the capital,

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reactions seem much more mixed, more cautious.

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Manchester was careful about lighting bonfires.

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What were the main priorities for most people,

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especially the property classes? Order, stability,

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and getting rid of the huge financial burden

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of the army. Lester asked Monk to avoid the town

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and refused to back the county petition for a

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free parliament. Many places suppressed disorders

00:39:34.670 --> 00:39:37.469
related to the free parliament calls. Maintaining

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order was paramount, even for some royalists.

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So beneath all the political maneuvering, the

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dominant mood was just this deep desire for settlement.

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Any settlement. That seems to be the core issue.

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The want of a real, settled, and regular government.

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The constant fear of the nation being still upon

00:39:54.940 --> 00:39:58.320
the cast of a die. John Evelyn lamented being

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no closer to settlement after 10 years. People

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complained constantly about the rapid changes,

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the uncertainty. Even army officers hated the

00:40:06.019 --> 00:40:08.420
tottering state. Which leads to this pragmatic

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acceptance of the restoration, even if people

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weren't enthusiastic monarchists. Yes. Many just

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accepted the need to accommodate the likely return

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of the monarchy as the best way to get stability.

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Though, as Reese notes, those who made shameless

00:40:21.199 --> 00:40:24.199
last -minute conversions got scorned. Luke Robinson

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is a prime example. John Lawson, the admiral,

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faced later condemnation for his shifts. Richard

00:40:29.699 --> 00:40:31.960
Inglesby, the regicide, suddenly couldn't remember

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signing the death warrant. Convenient memory

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loss, and we see all these individuals who'd

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been major players trying to navigate this treacherous

00:40:38.440 --> 00:40:41.280
transition, some successfully, some not. Menzel

00:40:41.280 --> 00:40:43.239
and Montague were unusual in approaching the

00:40:43.239 --> 00:40:46.019
royal court relatively early. It's interesting,

00:40:46.099 --> 00:40:48.559
others with known royalist links waited so long.

00:40:49.079 --> 00:40:51.440
Anthony Ashley Cooper, later Shaftesbury, had

00:40:51.440 --> 00:40:54.300
a very complex path before finally opposing the

00:40:54.300 --> 00:40:57.179
Committee of Safety. Lord Brokill, always well

00:40:57.179 --> 00:40:59.000
-connected, eventually backed the restoration.

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George Downing navigated brilliantly, if ruthlessly,

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betraying former colleagues to thrive under Charles

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II. And others weren't so lucky or perhaps so

00:41:08.389 --> 00:41:11.090
adaptable. Colonel John Oakey, whose allegiances

00:41:11.090 --> 00:41:14.289
shifted, ended up executed as a regicide. Colonel

00:41:14.289 --> 00:41:17.130
John Hewson fled into exile despite naive protests

00:41:17.130 --> 00:41:19.949
of loyalty. Sir Archibald Johnston of Worreston,

00:41:20.030 --> 00:41:22.889
the opportunist, met a tragic end. Bolster Road

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Whitelock tried hard, but his comparison of Monk

00:41:25.090 --> 00:41:27.949
to Booth was disastrous. Edmund Ludlow, the staunch

00:41:27.949 --> 00:41:30.269
Republican, saw reconciliation attempts fail

00:41:30.269 --> 00:41:32.690
as his anxiety grew. It really highlights the

00:41:32.690 --> 00:41:35.110
personal dramas within the grand political shifts.

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Looking back, could things have gone differently?

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Could the protectorate or the restored rum have

00:41:39.090 --> 00:41:42.349
survived? We suggest both could potentially have

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survived. The key rupture, the point of no return

00:41:46.050 --> 00:41:48.750
perhaps, was that break between the army and

00:41:48.750 --> 00:41:53.500
parliament in October 1659. That made the republic's

00:41:53.500 --> 00:41:57.179
fall a real possibility. After that, restraint

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and conciliation just became rarer and rarer.

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Even if Hesselridge had been more politically

00:42:02.119 --> 00:42:04.659
astute. A lasting parliamentary alliance was

00:42:04.659 --> 00:42:08.099
always unlikely, Reese argues. But perhaps, just

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perhaps, a more skillful handling of Monk by

00:42:11.019 --> 00:42:13.039
the Republicans might have delayed the republic's

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fall. Though it might also have made the end

00:42:15.019 --> 00:42:17.610
more violent. A sobering thought. Thank you for

00:42:17.610 --> 00:42:20.190
walking us through that incredibly complex and

00:42:20.190 --> 00:42:22.829
dramatic year. It really is a deep dive into

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the mechanics of political collapse and transition.

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It's a period that reveals so much about power,

00:42:27.510 --> 00:42:30.090
fear, and the fundamental human need for order.

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Absolutely. For everyone listening, what stood

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out to you most about this period? Was there

00:42:34.070 --> 00:42:35.809
a particular moment or figure that surprised

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you? Share your thoughts in the comments below.

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We'd love to hear your takeaways. And what questions

00:42:40.010 --> 00:42:42.650
do you still have about Richard Cromwell, Munk's

00:42:42.650 --> 00:42:45.570
motivations, the Rumpf's failures? Keep the conversation

00:42:45.570 --> 00:42:48.690
going. Definitely. And maybe a final thought

00:42:48.690 --> 00:42:51.170
to leave you with. Reflecting on these events

00:42:51.170 --> 00:42:55.210
from over 350 years ago, in our own world, which

00:42:55.210 --> 00:42:58.090
often feels saturated with information and buffeted

00:42:58.090 --> 00:43:00.389
by political shifts, how do we tell the difference

00:43:00.389 --> 00:43:02.949
between genuine stability and just a temporary

00:43:02.949 --> 00:43:05.889
quiet before the next upheaval? That's the enduring

00:43:05.889 --> 00:43:08.750
question, isn't it? The events of 1659 offer

00:43:08.750 --> 00:43:11.110
a compelling historical lens to think about that.

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Thanks for tuning in. Thanks, everyone. See you

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next time.
