1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:19,440 Hello and welcome to Camp Kaiju Monster Movie Reviews. 2 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:25,800 We are your hosts, Vincent Hannum, Matt Levine, and joining us are our guest hosts. 3 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,000 Who are you guys? 4 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:31,040 I'm Mike Swalin and Patrick Kazaki. 5 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:32,680 Right on, right on. 6 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:36,400 And we are talking about all of our favorite monster movies, The Good, The Bad, and The 7 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:40,520 Downright Campy, and asking if they stand the test of time. 8 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:45,440 Traditional Kaiju creature features, space invaders, the supernatural, and everything 9 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:46,660 in between. 10 00:00:46,660 --> 00:00:49,560 All strange beasts are welcome here at Camp Kaiju. 11 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:54,100 And we are sponsored this season once again by Zack Linder and the Zack Pack powered by 12 00:00:54,100 --> 00:00:59,160 Coldwell Banker Realty, your source for real estate, home rehab, fixing and flipping for 13 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:01,760 investor clients and residential buyers. 14 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:06,000 Reach out to the Zack Pack today for real estate services, follow the Zack Pack on social 15 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:10,320 media, and contact the Zack Pack for investment opportunities. 16 00:01:10,320 --> 00:01:28,840 Links in the bio. 17 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:30,160 Feels good to say that. 18 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:31,160 Yeah. 19 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:34,160 We're back, baby. 20 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:38,160 Better than ever. 21 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:43,440 And Matt, what are we talking about this week on Camp Kaiju? 22 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:50,600 This week, we're talking about Godzilla X-Kong, or shall I say Godzilla Kong, the new empire. 23 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:52,080 The X is silent. 24 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,120 India New. 25 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:57,760 I've also heard it shortened to GXK. 26 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,500 So you know, lots of options there. 27 00:02:00,500 --> 00:02:07,440 Does this movie deserve like a fancy abbreviation? 28 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:08,440 It's to be seen, Mike. 29 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:15,760 Yeah, I do want to talk about the title because I think I think the title in and of itself 30 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:20,080 is is a lot to pick apart, honestly. 31 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:21,840 But we're going to we're going to talk about that more. 32 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:26,120 We're going to talk about all things Kaiju, all things Godzilla and Kong. 33 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,360 We want to welcome Mike and Patrick. 34 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,200 Patrick, you're a returning guest. 35 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:34,000 From what podcast do you come from? 36 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:35,920 Weary traveler. 37 00:02:35,920 --> 00:02:37,840 I am returning you. 38 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:39,360 Unfortunately, had me back again. 39 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:44,200 I apparently didn't mess it up enough the first time your podcast, but I'm back to do 40 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:45,200 some more damage. 41 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:54,160 I am hailing from the Gaze Do the D podcast, which is a Disney podcast with an LGBTQIA 42 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:55,840 plus perspective. 43 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:57,480 Yeah, excellent. 44 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:05,200 And Patrick, for those listening, Patrick guested on a previous episodes on Luca, the 45 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:12,160 Pixar movie, and Camp Kaiju guested on Gaze Do the D. We discussed 20000 Leagues Under 46 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,720 the Sea from 1954. 47 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:19,160 So great, great episodes to check out there. 48 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:20,160 Mike, welcome. 49 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:21,520 This is your first time to camp. 50 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:23,560 It is my first time to camp. 51 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,240 Thank you for having me. 52 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:28,160 What is your favorite monster movie? 53 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:30,680 Oh, that's a good question. 54 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:38,840 I would have to say, you know, and this this is just what comes to mind immediately, but 55 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:41,880 Super 8. 56 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:49,960 I just kind of adored that movie and had a very nostalgic feel to it, you know, especially, 57 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:53,420 you know, that 80s sort of feel. 58 00:03:53,420 --> 00:04:01,640 It was also great to see, you know, a lot of the times, you know, it kind of that movie 59 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:08,520 in particular, the vibe kind of feels a little bit like ET, where you have like the, you 60 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:15,360 know, the kind of monster that you're trying to get home and kind of flipped it on its 61 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:19,700 head where this was also it was also a monster trying to get home, but it's just straight 62 00:04:19,700 --> 00:04:21,040 up beating people. 63 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:28,000 It's just wanting to it does want to get home and you kind of feel for it, but it's also 64 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,040 super dangerous. 65 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,360 And I don't know why I think it's my favorite monster. 66 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:37,640 Yeah, that's maybe an underrated film from the past decade or so. 67 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:38,640 Yeah. 68 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:39,640 Nice. 69 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:40,640 Great. 70 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:45,600 Well, folks, we have some new bits that we're premiering a season for. 71 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:47,880 So this first bit is called Nuts and Bolts. 72 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:55,200 And when the episode is released, you'll hear some like Frankenstein lab type type stuff. 73 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:56,440 So nuts and bolts. 74 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:58,320 We got to you know, this is important stuff. 75 00:04:58,320 --> 00:04:59,320 We got to get out of the way. 76 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:02,480 We want to thank you all for listening, for hanging out. 77 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:05,560 Please rate and review Camp Kaiju wherever you do listen. 78 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:09,200 Apple, Spotify, our website even. 79 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,520 You can also share this podcast with a friend. 80 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:12,520 Send us listener comments. 81 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,440 A couple of ways you can do this. 82 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:21,840 CampKaiju at gmail.com, our Facebook page, Instagram, or if you'd like to be a featured 83 00:05:21,840 --> 00:05:24,460 voice on the show, this is new. 84 00:05:24,460 --> 00:05:31,380 You can leave us a voicemail at 612-470-2612. 85 00:05:31,380 --> 00:05:32,380 Just leave me a voicemail. 86 00:05:32,380 --> 00:05:33,380 I'm not going to answer the phone. 87 00:05:33,380 --> 00:05:34,540 I swear. 88 00:05:34,540 --> 00:05:37,440 Just tell us about your favorite monster movies, memories, things like that. 89 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:41,360 We'd love to have your voices on the show as well. 90 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:46,280 And like I said, you can visit our website at CampKaijuMovieReviews.com for more special 91 00:05:46,280 --> 00:05:47,280 content. 92 00:05:47,280 --> 00:05:48,440 And hi, Gary. 93 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:50,200 We're just thanking our patrons. 94 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:51,200 Welcome. 95 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:52,200 Hello. 96 00:05:52,200 --> 00:06:00,920 So thank you to Jason, Chris, Sean, our anonymous patron and Peggy. 97 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,080 And we got to hit the old Gamera Gong. 98 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:04,080 I'll add that in post. 99 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:05,080 Don't worry. 100 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,680 But Sean is new as of this week. 101 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:15,240 So climbing right on board, we're happy to have you. 102 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:21,160 Another fun thing I wanted to maybe add, you know, this week, today in Monster Movie History. 103 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:22,160 And we are recording this. 104 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:23,600 This episode releases in July. 105 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:25,960 We're recording on May 7th. 106 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:31,120 And Matt, you alerted me to a very special anniversary as of today. 107 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:32,520 Yeah, indeed. 108 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:38,440 It's the birthday of Ashiro Honda, the director of the original Godzilla and many Toho Kaiju 109 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:42,960 movies from the Showa era of the Godzilla franchise. 110 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,880 Some might call him the granddaddy of Godzilla himself. 111 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,380 So it's appropriate that we're talking about this movie today. 112 00:06:48,380 --> 00:06:50,200 So happy birthday, Ashiro Honda. 113 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:51,200 Yeah. 114 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:52,200 Is he still alive? 115 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:55,640 No, sadly, in his memory. 116 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:58,820 Matt, do you want to read some of these other monster movies? 117 00:06:58,820 --> 00:07:06,280 These were released in July and there's some big titles celebrating 50th anniversary, 60th 118 00:07:06,280 --> 00:07:08,680 anniversary, 70th. 119 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:12,600 Matt pick and choose a couple of those to to shout out for us. 120 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:13,600 Yeah, for sure. 121 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:19,840 Well, the first one I want to point out is them, the giant ant movie from 1954, which 122 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,480 we talked about on the podcast last year. 123 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:23,960 Can't remember exactly when. 124 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:26,880 Must have been like last spring, maybe last summer or something like that. 125 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:28,520 I was blown away by that movie. 126 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:32,520 One of my favorite, like classical Hollywood monster movies of all time. 127 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:35,040 Definitely part of the giant insect craze of the 50s. 128 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:37,320 So yeah, them. 129 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,600 Check it out if you haven't seen it already. 130 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:40,600 Let's see here. 131 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:48,600 I mean, I have to point out Gremlins from my birth year of 1984, which is clarifying 132 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:49,600 how old I am. 133 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:53,640 But Gremlins one of the best Christmas and horror movies of all time. 134 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:54,640 Gotta love Gremlins. 135 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:55,800 Such a fun movie. 136 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:56,800 Yeah. 137 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:00,160 And you're also celebrating your 40th anniversary this year. 138 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:01,160 Indeed I am. 139 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:02,160 Yes. 140 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:07,960 Hey, oh, you guys have any any any of those titles jump out at you as things you're a 141 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:08,960 fan of? 142 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,000 Oh yeah, I mean, Gremlins. 143 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:14,080 Yeah, but Meg, my partner, had never seen it. 144 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:16,480 We actually I and I had not seen it for years. 145 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:19,760 We watched it around Christmas last year. 146 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,440 And yeah, she had a ton of fun with it. 147 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:24,840 And yeah, it was a blast. 148 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:28,520 I have a distinct memory of my dad showing me Gremlins for the first time when I was 149 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:31,240 a kid and just losing my mind. 150 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:38,880 Yeah, it's one of those movies that appeals to all ages. 151 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:40,520 I forgot and I hadn't seen it for years. 152 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:46,640 I forgot it was a Christmas movie until I rewatched it again recently. 153 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:47,640 And yeah. 154 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:58,000 Finding out why her dad dies is one of the greatest reveals in film history. 155 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:04,400 I have I have Gremlins on my short list of films I want to bring to the podcast. 156 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:05,400 It's about time, right? 157 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:07,520 It's one of those ten pole films. 158 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:09,480 Oh, yeah. 159 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:11,080 We have to give Wolf a shout out, though. 160 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:12,340 Sorry to interrupt everybody. 161 00:09:12,340 --> 00:09:15,920 But Jack Nicholson and Michelle Pfeiffer in a werewolf movie. 162 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:16,920 You can't go wrong. 163 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:18,320 That was a little tongue in cheek. 164 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:19,600 Matt and I talked about that one. 165 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:25,440 It's maybe not the best movie, but no, you know, there's a lot I liked about it. 166 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:26,440 Yeah. 167 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:29,520 But happy 30th anniversary to Wolf. 168 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:34,560 The moon is rising. 169 00:09:34,560 --> 00:09:38,640 The passion is growing. 170 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:42,640 The animal is out. 171 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,640 Nicholson Pfeiffer. 172 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:54,560 Don't look so scared. 173 00:09:54,560 --> 00:09:55,920 Wolf. 174 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,840 Rated R. Billy Pelser has a nice home. 175 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,760 Billy, is that you? 176 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,560 Yeah, Mom, it's me. 177 00:10:04,560 --> 00:10:08,120 A nice job. 178 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:09,120 A nice girl. 179 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:13,720 If you're not doing anything this Thursday night, maybe you'd like to go out on a date 180 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:14,720 with me. 181 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:15,720 I'd love to. 182 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,720 And loving parents who are about to give him. 183 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:19,720 You're gonna like this. 184 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:20,720 No, no, no, don't shake it. 185 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:21,720 We're gonna have to open it now. 186 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:23,480 It won't wait till Christmas. 187 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,880 The most unusual gift he ever got. 188 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:27,880 What is it? 189 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:28,880 It's your new pet. 190 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,400 Come on, Bonnie, be a good dog. 191 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:33,360 My dad gave it to me. 192 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:36,480 But there are a few things to keep in mind. 193 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:40,000 If you expose it to the light, you may hurt it. 194 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:43,160 If you get it wet, it will multiply. 195 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:44,160 All that from water? 196 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:45,160 Yeah, plain water. 197 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:54,560 And most important, no matter how much they beg, never, never let them eat after midnight. 198 00:10:54,560 --> 00:10:58,560 Because when they do, they change. 199 00:10:58,560 --> 00:11:02,560 They become clever, mischievous. 200 00:11:02,560 --> 00:11:08,040 What's going on here? 201 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:11,040 And dangerous. 202 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:18,040 Grandmothers, don't you ever think of that? 203 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:21,040 I don't know. 204 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,040 Maybe thousands. 205 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:26,040 They've been here too. 206 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:27,520 Billy, what are these things? 207 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:28,520 Where do they come from? 208 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:29,520 Look, I know it sounds crazy. 209 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:30,520 I know. 210 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:36,520 But in a few hours, you're gonna have a major disaster on your hands. 211 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:43,080 Grandmothers, directed by Joe Dante. 212 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:53,200 They'll be expecting you. 213 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:59,120 I tell you, gentlemen, science has agreed that unless something is done and done quickly, 214 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:07,800 man as the dominant species of life on earth will be extinct within a year. 215 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:36,120 I 216 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:42,360 told you earlier that penå°‡ers would no offence when laughed at. 217 00:12:36,380 --> 00:12:46,560 of developments from 218 00:12:46,560 --> 00:12:49,720 We are full cooperation with the military authorities. 219 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:54,320 Yes, cities, nations, even civilization itself, 220 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:56,240 threatened with annihilation. 221 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:59,680 Because in one moment of history making violence, 222 00:12:59,680 --> 00:13:03,800 nature, mad, rampant, wrought its most awesome creation. 223 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:07,120 For born in that swirling inferno of radioactive dust, 224 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:12,120 were things so horrible, so terrifying, so hideous. 225 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:17,120 There is no word to describe them. 226 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:25,200 We may be witnesses to a biblical prophecy. 227 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:26,880 Some new upcoming releases. 228 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:30,720 So next month we have Alien Romulus coming out. 229 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:32,360 We're gonna wanna check that out. 230 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:33,600 And then if you haven't yet, 231 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,680 this summer checked out the new Quiet Place 232 00:13:36,680 --> 00:13:38,680 or Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes. 233 00:13:38,680 --> 00:13:40,440 I think those are some big, 234 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:44,760 some big sequels that I am looking forward to seeing. 235 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,880 All right, so coming up next on Camp Kaiju, 236 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:51,920 Matt, what title are we featuring next? 237 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:53,600 Well, again, this is appropriate 238 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:54,840 because we're gonna be talking about 239 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:58,760 King Kong versus Godzilla from 1962. 240 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:03,760 So, you know, if you wanted to give Godzilla X Kong 241 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,080 some credit, you can say that it's an homage 242 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:08,800 to the original King Kong versus Godzilla. 243 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:10,840 So yeah, we'll be talking about that one soon. 244 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,440 Yeah, good little dumb speech today. 245 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:14,720 Sorry to cut you off, I've never seen it. 246 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:15,720 I'm very excited. 247 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:18,520 Yeah, who said that? 248 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:19,600 Me, that was me, sorry. 249 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:20,440 Oh. 250 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:23,240 Who out there? 251 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:25,160 Who said that? 252 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,440 Okay, last thing with our nuts and bolts. 253 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:29,640 Hey everybody, this was brought to you 254 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:33,040 by Threadless, campkaiju.threadless.com. 255 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:34,920 It's our new merch store. 256 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:37,480 Not only can you get all kinds of crazy T-shirts, 257 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:40,520 but guys, Threadless is bonkers. 258 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:44,000 You can get your logo on just about anything 259 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:49,000 and this week's bonkers logo product is a shower curtain. 260 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:54,560 So if you want Camp 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00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:33,960 was like when I was little, 276 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:37,040 was actually the 1970s version. 277 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:39,560 I haven't seen it probably since then, 278 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:41,960 but the one with Jeff Bridges. 279 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:44,040 And then I know I saw the original. 280 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:46,640 And then in high school, you know, 281 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:50,080 a huge Lord of the Rings fan, massive Lord of the Rings fan, 282 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:54,480 so when Peter Jackson's King Kong came out in high school, 283 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:56,440 that was like a lot of fun for me 284 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:58,240 and I still really liked that movie. 285 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:03,240 And then, but I had not seen a lot of the, 286 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:06,960 I've been more introduced recently 287 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:10,280 to some of the more Toho original versions of Godzilla. 288 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:13,800 But overall I've been, like, 289 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:18,160 I've enjoyed this legendary American franchise. 290 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:21,480 And yeah. 291 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:24,360 I think we're all in accordance there. 292 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:27,760 Patrick, why don't you take the floor? 293 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:29,240 Sure, sure, sure. 294 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:30,480 I'll preface this by saying, like, 295 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,800 I am by no stretch of the imagination, 296 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:36,240 like an expert when it comes to Godzilla 297 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:38,000 or King Kong movies or monster movies in general. 298 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:40,280 I would say maybe I'm not an armchair, 299 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:42,120 but like an Ottoman expert maybe, 300 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:45,480 in that I just like to talk about them casually with friends. 301 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:48,480 But I will say I am a big fan of movies like these 302 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:50,120 that sort of push the envelope 303 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:51,720 when it comes to visual effects. 304 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:53,640 And I think the original Godzilla 305 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:56,880 and the original King Kong both handily did that 306 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,520 in their own respective versions 307 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:01,160 of what they're doing visually, 308 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:02,040 just pushing the envelope. 309 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,000 And I think that both of these movies continued that 310 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:05,960 throughout the years and I've been a big fan of that. 311 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:10,280 So that's sort of my love affair with both genres. 312 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:11,600 And now that they're smashed together, 313 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:13,680 it's a good party, I'll tell you what. 314 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:14,920 Yeah, right? 315 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:16,080 Something special about it. 316 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:17,880 Whether or not we like the movie, 317 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:20,680 it's just like, you know, you can't hate what they're doing. 318 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:21,520 Right, yeah. 319 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:26,320 L comes before S. 320 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:28,720 Matt Levine, Mike Swan. 321 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:30,760 Yeah, I mean, like one of the many great things 322 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:33,240 about being on this podcast with you, Vincent, 323 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:35,600 is getting to know all the Godzilla movies. 324 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:37,960 We've explored a lot of them over the last couple of years. 325 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:42,040 So that's kind of given me a great entryway into the series. 326 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:45,720 You know, I have to admit that I prefer the older ones, 327 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:47,640 the Showa era ones especially. 328 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:49,280 I think for me, the original Godzilla 329 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:50,840 is always gonna be the best. 330 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:54,400 I also love Ghidorah, the three-headed monster, 331 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:56,720 many others of the original series. 332 00:17:56,720 --> 00:18:00,320 So yeah, the newer kind of legendary universe ones, 333 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:03,920 you know, not to sound too stubborn, 334 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:06,160 but they're not exactly my cup of tea sometimes. 335 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:07,280 I don't love the CGI. 336 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:08,600 I prefer like the student nation 337 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:11,600 and the model special effects and stuff like that. 338 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:13,000 But they can be a lot of fun. 339 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,480 So it was, yeah, it'll be fun to talk about. 340 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:16,320 Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. 341 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:19,680 Mike, you have Reptar as your background. 342 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:21,760 I do have Reptar as my background. 343 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:24,280 I chose that on purpose if you couldn't see it. 344 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:25,760 I couldn't tell. 345 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,600 Yeah, no, similar to Gary, 346 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:33,600 I don't have a lot of history with Godzilla in particular. 347 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:40,840 Probably my like original exposure to Godzilla 348 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:45,600 was through like things like Reptar 349 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:47,760 or I think of, you know, Calvin and Hobbes 350 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:52,240 and just how much Godzilla for me, it's like the culture. 351 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:54,000 But I do have a distinct memory, 352 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:55,960 especially if we're talking about King Kong 353 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:58,120 of being shown that movie as a kid 354 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:04,240 and how, you know, that movie is at least from my knowledge, 355 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:09,200 like the earliest, one of the earliest examples 356 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:14,200 I can think of, of a monster creature 357 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:20,440 being given a sense of like humanity where the, you know, 358 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:24,840 the audience feels empathy for a creature like this 359 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:26,280 and how that kind of set up. 360 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:28,480 And you do see that especially with King Kong 361 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:31,920 in the more recent movies, you know, Godzilla versus Kong 362 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:36,600 and Godzilla X Kong and all of that. 363 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,880 But yeah, no, that, you know, sort of trope brought you 364 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:44,880 into, you know, kind of set up a lot of great movies 365 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:48,000 moving forward where we get to, you know, connect 366 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:53,000 and feel something human for something so monstrous. 367 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:57,440 Yeah, I love what they, I love what, I love Kong 368 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:00,440 as a character within the monster verse. 369 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,120 I think a lot of people agree that these movies 370 00:20:03,120 --> 00:20:07,120 have been very Kong heavy in terms of sympathizing 371 00:20:07,120 --> 00:20:11,120 with that character's sense of home and place 372 00:20:11,120 --> 00:20:13,920 and like trying to find his place in this world. 373 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:18,920 With that said, Mike, it was 10 years ago 374 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:22,400 that we saw the monster first Godzilla on your birthday. 375 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:24,080 That's right. 376 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:25,560 Yeah, it was my birthday. 377 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,000 So we went to the movie that Gary wanted to see. 378 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:36,920 And I remember like that was before my Kaiju Renaissance 379 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,080 because there's just a few years ago, I got like really back 380 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:42,280 into these movies that I loved as a kid, but you know, 381 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:45,280 you go away from home only to come back to it. 382 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:49,520 And yeah, so I've really enjoyed the monster verse 383 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:54,520 as just like an entry point into the broader Kaiju 384 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:58,000 cinematic traditions. 385 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:01,740 ["The Star-Spangled Banner"] 386 00:21:01,740 --> 00:21:05,240 ["The Star-Spangled Banner"] 387 00:21:11,220 --> 00:21:12,500 We're millionaires, boys. 388 00:21:12,500 --> 00:21:14,220 I'll share it with all of you. 389 00:21:14,220 --> 00:21:16,940 Why in a few months, we'll be up in lights on Broadway. 390 00:21:16,940 --> 00:21:20,420 Kong, the eighth wonder of the world! 391 00:21:20,420 --> 00:21:23,420 ["The Star-Spangled Banner"] 392 00:21:23,420 --> 00:21:24,500 Ah! 393 00:21:24,500 --> 00:21:25,340 Ah! 394 00:21:25,340 --> 00:21:28,180 Ah! 395 00:21:28,180 --> 00:21:29,020 Ah! 396 00:21:29,020 --> 00:21:29,840 Ah! 397 00:21:34,100 --> 00:21:39,100 Wild, weird, wonderful, the stuff for which movies were made. 398 00:21:39,700 --> 00:21:42,420 Adventure to make you wonder if it's true 399 00:21:42,420 --> 00:21:45,420 while your eyes convince you that it is. 400 00:21:45,420 --> 00:21:48,300 Truly the thrill of thrills. 401 00:21:48,300 --> 00:21:55,300 Don't miss it this time. 402 00:22:04,060 --> 00:22:07,860 They ride like their beasts. 403 00:22:07,860 --> 00:22:10,100 They turn milk cream. 404 00:22:10,100 --> 00:22:10,940 Red tar. 405 00:22:11,900 --> 00:22:15,620 Love and style and pour them out. 406 00:22:15,620 --> 00:22:19,460 Reptar cereal unless you want to shout it. 407 00:22:19,460 --> 00:22:20,300 Reptar! 408 00:22:21,420 --> 00:22:22,580 We are Reptar! 409 00:22:28,220 --> 00:22:30,740 Okay, champ, time to go to the supermarket. 410 00:22:30,740 --> 00:22:34,020 Reptar cereal, the cereal with scale. 411 00:22:34,020 --> 00:22:36,620 So the Godzilla X-Kong, 412 00:22:36,620 --> 00:22:37,820 I'm just gonna keep on saying that 413 00:22:37,820 --> 00:22:38,980 even though the X is silent, 414 00:22:38,980 --> 00:22:41,220 I just can't bring myself to omit that, so. 415 00:22:41,220 --> 00:22:43,020 Godzilla Cross Kong. 416 00:22:43,020 --> 00:22:44,980 I think you can call it a million things. 417 00:22:44,980 --> 00:22:46,620 Godzilla by Kong. 418 00:22:46,620 --> 00:22:49,820 I think the title is meant to be Godzilla Kong a new- 419 00:22:49,820 --> 00:22:50,940 Gary, we covered this. 420 00:22:50,940 --> 00:22:51,780 You were late. 421 00:22:54,460 --> 00:22:55,700 Whatever you want to call it, 422 00:22:55,700 --> 00:22:58,140 I'm probably still gonna say Godzilla X-Kong, 423 00:22:58,140 --> 00:22:59,940 but there's a lot of options there. 424 00:23:01,100 --> 00:23:03,580 In any case, the director of the movie is Adam Wingard, 425 00:23:03,580 --> 00:23:06,980 who also directed Godzilla versus Kong from 2021. 426 00:23:08,220 --> 00:23:09,820 One of the movies that did the best, 427 00:23:09,820 --> 00:23:12,180 and that was still kind of in like the, you know, 428 00:23:12,180 --> 00:23:15,140 lingering pandemic kind of social distancing era. 429 00:23:15,140 --> 00:23:17,140 So yeah, Wingard directed that one. 430 00:23:17,140 --> 00:23:19,140 I know him a little bit more from his horror movies, 431 00:23:19,140 --> 00:23:21,100 like You're Next and The Guest. 432 00:23:21,100 --> 00:23:22,860 I like both those movies quite a bit. 433 00:23:22,860 --> 00:23:26,100 They're fun throwbacks, so I recommend those as well. 434 00:23:27,900 --> 00:23:31,780 GXK is also written by a team of screenwriters 435 00:23:31,780 --> 00:23:34,700 that includes Terry Rossio, Simon Barrett, 436 00:23:34,700 --> 00:23:36,500 and Jeremy Slater. 437 00:23:36,500 --> 00:23:40,140 And the cinematography is by Ben Saracen. 438 00:23:40,140 --> 00:23:42,220 You know, with very CGI heavy movies, 439 00:23:42,220 --> 00:23:43,940 I feel like it's kind of hard to know exactly 440 00:23:43,940 --> 00:23:47,420 where the cinematography ends and the CGI begins. 441 00:23:47,420 --> 00:23:49,620 But in any case, this is a pretty good looking movie. 442 00:23:49,620 --> 00:23:51,940 I'll start off by mentioning Rebecca Hall. 443 00:23:51,940 --> 00:23:55,100 She plays Dr. Eileen Andrews. 444 00:23:55,100 --> 00:23:58,940 She is a returning cast member from Godzilla versus Kong. 445 00:23:58,940 --> 00:24:00,140 I like Rebecca Hall a lot. 446 00:24:00,140 --> 00:24:02,580 She's a very interesting actor and director. 447 00:24:02,580 --> 00:24:05,060 She directed the movie Passing from a couple of years ago, 448 00:24:05,060 --> 00:24:06,220 which is very, very good. 449 00:24:07,260 --> 00:24:08,940 So I always kind of admire it when artists 450 00:24:08,940 --> 00:24:11,740 like do their commercial work and get their paycheck 451 00:24:11,740 --> 00:24:14,140 and then kind of do their more personal work on the side. 452 00:24:14,140 --> 00:24:15,460 More power to you. 453 00:24:15,460 --> 00:24:17,300 I always admire that. 454 00:24:18,900 --> 00:24:21,540 The cast also includes Brian Tyree Henry, 455 00:24:21,540 --> 00:24:23,020 who is great in this movie. 456 00:24:23,020 --> 00:24:25,860 He plays conspiracy podcaster Bernie Hayes. 457 00:24:25,860 --> 00:24:30,100 He's also a returning character from Godzilla versus Kong. 458 00:24:31,580 --> 00:24:36,580 Then we have Dan Stevens as a Titan slash Kaiju veterinarian 459 00:24:36,580 --> 00:24:41,580 and devil may care rogue named Trapper. 460 00:24:42,980 --> 00:24:47,020 Dan Stevens is also kind of an Adam Wingard regular. 461 00:24:47,020 --> 00:24:49,860 So there's a little bit of collaboration going on there. 462 00:24:51,220 --> 00:24:53,380 And rounding out the cast, we have. 463 00:24:53,380 --> 00:24:54,340 I love the guest. 464 00:24:55,340 --> 00:24:56,820 What? 465 00:24:56,820 --> 00:24:58,060 I was saying I love the guest. 466 00:24:58,060 --> 00:25:02,780 I love him in the guest and I really like that movie. 467 00:25:02,780 --> 00:25:03,740 Yeah. 468 00:25:03,740 --> 00:25:04,580 Yeah. 469 00:25:04,580 --> 00:25:05,420 Agreed. 470 00:25:05,420 --> 00:25:07,660 Dan Stevens is really good in that movie for sure. 471 00:25:07,660 --> 00:25:08,860 Yeah. 472 00:25:08,860 --> 00:25:10,060 And he's good in this one too. 473 00:25:10,060 --> 00:25:12,980 He's, you know, I mean, devil may care rogue. 474 00:25:12,980 --> 00:25:14,340 Pretty much sums it up. 475 00:25:14,340 --> 00:25:16,460 It's kind of like a stereotype or a cliche, 476 00:25:16,460 --> 00:25:17,860 I guess you could say in this kind of movie, 477 00:25:17,860 --> 00:25:20,020 but he pulls it off pretty well. 478 00:25:20,020 --> 00:25:21,940 And then the last cast member 479 00:25:21,940 --> 00:25:24,860 that we'll mention here is Kaylee Hoddle. 480 00:25:24,860 --> 00:25:27,220 She plays Gia, the deaf, ewe child 481 00:25:27,220 --> 00:25:29,500 who has a special bond with Kong. 482 00:25:29,500 --> 00:25:31,100 So she's also a returning character 483 00:25:31,100 --> 00:25:33,300 from Godzilla versus Kong. 484 00:25:33,300 --> 00:25:37,260 That's kind of the the foremost cast there. 485 00:25:37,260 --> 00:25:38,780 One thing I liked about this movie, 486 00:25:38,780 --> 00:25:40,980 especially compared to Godzilla versus Kong, 487 00:25:40,980 --> 00:25:45,980 is that in Godzilla X Kong, the cast is smaller. 488 00:25:47,060 --> 00:25:49,940 Like the ensemble is smaller. 489 00:25:49,940 --> 00:25:53,180 The production budget was smaller for this movie. 490 00:25:53,180 --> 00:25:57,700 And maybe it's just because they cut all the excess actors, 491 00:25:57,700 --> 00:25:59,980 which I always appreciate. 492 00:25:59,980 --> 00:26:01,380 We keep the story tight. 493 00:26:01,380 --> 00:26:04,020 We stay focused on who we actually care about. 494 00:26:04,020 --> 00:26:07,500 There's no C plot, let alone barely a B plot. 495 00:26:07,500 --> 00:26:09,860 I think it's a strength of this movie. 496 00:26:09,860 --> 00:26:12,340 I like that it's a nice diverse cast as well. 497 00:26:12,340 --> 00:26:14,580 Like coming from my podcast, 498 00:26:14,580 --> 00:26:17,380 we have Brian Tyree Henry, who's an actor of color 499 00:26:17,380 --> 00:26:18,820 and also an openly gay actor. 500 00:26:18,820 --> 00:26:22,020 And then Kaylee Hoddle, who is actually deaf in real life, 501 00:26:22,020 --> 00:26:24,260 playing a deaf character is nice to see 502 00:26:24,260 --> 00:26:28,060 in a movie like Godzilla by Kong, 503 00:26:28,060 --> 00:26:29,340 is what I'm calling it now for now. 504 00:26:29,340 --> 00:26:31,540 Mike, thank you for that. 505 00:26:33,540 --> 00:26:36,220 Yeah, I think that was an issue with Godzilla versus Kong. 506 00:26:36,220 --> 00:26:39,260 I feel like it really shoehorned Millie Brown 507 00:26:39,260 --> 00:26:40,940 from Godzilla King of the Monsters. 508 00:26:40,940 --> 00:26:42,340 And it just wasn't. 509 00:26:42,340 --> 00:26:45,540 And I did not feel that as much with this movie 510 00:26:45,540 --> 00:26:50,540 that they felt the need to take a character 511 00:26:52,220 --> 00:26:54,940 from the last movie and put it in this one. 512 00:26:54,940 --> 00:26:57,940 Yeah, so I'll just briefly summarize 513 00:26:57,940 --> 00:26:59,580 some of the production history. 514 00:26:59,580 --> 00:27:03,140 This movie was immediately more or less put into the works 515 00:27:03,140 --> 00:27:06,860 following the surprise success of Godzilla versus Kong, 516 00:27:06,860 --> 00:27:11,860 which was released streaming in, I believe March of 2021. 517 00:27:12,300 --> 00:27:16,220 And I know Mike, Gary, we all got together 518 00:27:16,220 --> 00:27:18,620 and watched it at Mike's house. 519 00:27:18,620 --> 00:27:22,140 And that put in motion an immediate sequel, 520 00:27:22,140 --> 00:27:23,780 which is great for Kaiju lovers. 521 00:27:23,780 --> 00:27:26,180 We're like, yes, we're gonna get more. 522 00:27:26,180 --> 00:27:29,460 Godzilla and Kong, which is what I'm gonna call it, 523 00:27:29,460 --> 00:27:33,780 filmed in Australia in 2022. 524 00:27:33,780 --> 00:27:36,740 Matt, as you alluded to, I think earlier, 525 00:27:36,740 --> 00:27:38,340 Wingard likes to collaborate. 526 00:27:38,340 --> 00:27:40,660 So he brought on some frequent screenwriters, 527 00:27:40,660 --> 00:27:42,140 Barrett and Slater. 528 00:27:42,140 --> 00:27:45,100 And the main thing I wanna get at is with this movie, 529 00:27:45,100 --> 00:27:48,220 stylistically, Wingard really wanted to lean into 530 00:27:48,220 --> 00:27:52,340 the Showa era vibes of the Godzilla franchise, 531 00:27:52,340 --> 00:27:57,340 which generally speaking means campier, sillier, goofier, 532 00:27:58,020 --> 00:28:01,860 lighter, as opposed to say Godzilla minus one, 533 00:28:01,860 --> 00:28:04,420 which leaned very much into the quote unquote 534 00:28:04,420 --> 00:28:05,620 serious Godzilla. 535 00:28:06,660 --> 00:28:10,340 The monster verse take is the opposite camp. 536 00:28:10,340 --> 00:28:12,220 And no pun intended. 537 00:28:12,220 --> 00:28:15,820 I think that that is a valid interpretation 538 00:28:15,820 --> 00:28:18,740 of Godzilla movies at this point in our culture. 539 00:28:18,740 --> 00:28:22,140 So I'd love to hear your guys' thoughts on that later on. 540 00:28:22,140 --> 00:28:27,140 The movie features a lot of monster verse original kaiju. 541 00:28:27,140 --> 00:28:29,100 So legendary Warner Brothers, 542 00:28:29,100 --> 00:28:33,300 they have to get the licensing rights from Toho in Japan 543 00:28:33,300 --> 00:28:36,020 for characters like Godzilla and Mothra. 544 00:28:36,020 --> 00:28:39,300 But they don't have to pay licensing rights for King Kong 545 00:28:39,300 --> 00:28:43,740 or other originals, which is why we got some characters 546 00:28:43,740 --> 00:28:46,660 like the Scar King as our antagonist, 547 00:28:46,660 --> 00:28:50,740 some originals called Tiamat, Baby Kong, of course, 548 00:28:50,740 --> 00:28:55,580 Shimo, Scylla, and the lovable Doug, 549 00:28:55,580 --> 00:29:00,020 which is a dog-like kaiju that became a fan favorite 550 00:29:00,020 --> 00:29:01,620 in Godzilla versus Kong. 551 00:29:02,580 --> 00:29:06,020 And Doug has a cameo in this movie. 552 00:29:06,020 --> 00:29:08,420 So that was just a little shout out for the fans. 553 00:29:09,860 --> 00:29:13,220 Mixed reviews for Godzilla and Kong, 554 00:29:13,220 --> 00:29:15,100 I'd say mixed to positive. 555 00:29:15,940 --> 00:29:18,740 There's not a lot of like upright hate for this movie, 556 00:29:18,740 --> 00:29:21,260 but for better or for worse, 557 00:29:21,260 --> 00:29:23,860 it is coming in the wake of Godzilla minus one. 558 00:29:23,860 --> 00:29:28,860 So maybe it's unfavorably contrasted with that. 559 00:29:29,620 --> 00:29:31,220 But regardless of reviews, 560 00:29:31,220 --> 00:29:34,740 it is currently the second highest grossing movie 561 00:29:34,740 --> 00:29:36,700 of 2024 already. 562 00:29:36,700 --> 00:29:41,100 I believe there is a season two of the show on Apple though 563 00:29:41,100 --> 00:29:46,100 that's been a greenlit, so the monster versus continuing, 564 00:29:46,500 --> 00:29:48,060 at least in TV form. 565 00:29:48,060 --> 00:29:50,180 Yeah, and you've watched all that, right, Gary? 566 00:29:50,180 --> 00:29:52,020 I did, yeah. 567 00:29:52,020 --> 00:29:54,020 Cool, anyone else seen that? 568 00:29:54,020 --> 00:29:54,900 I have not, it's called 569 00:29:54,900 --> 00:29:57,100 Monarch Legacy of Monsters, is that right? 570 00:29:57,100 --> 00:29:58,500 Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right. 571 00:29:58,500 --> 00:29:59,340 That's the show. 572 00:30:00,380 --> 00:30:02,660 It was escaping my brain for a second. 573 00:30:02,660 --> 00:30:05,700 So I was like, I got the copy of that title. 574 00:30:05,700 --> 00:30:06,980 I was trying to rack my brain 575 00:30:06,980 --> 00:30:09,020 and then I saw it was listed in our episode notes. 576 00:30:09,020 --> 00:30:10,580 Thank you, Vincent. 577 00:30:10,580 --> 00:30:13,300 Yeah, I've never seen that, I really want to. 578 00:30:13,300 --> 00:30:15,380 Yeah, I'm just really bad with TV. 579 00:30:15,380 --> 00:30:17,540 I gotta be honest, I watch a ton of movies, 580 00:30:17,540 --> 00:30:22,540 but TV's almost too much of a time commitment, ironically. 581 00:30:22,860 --> 00:30:23,700 Sam. 582 00:30:23,700 --> 00:30:25,420 And McKeilings on it, I think it's worth watching though 583 00:30:25,420 --> 00:30:26,420 if you're a fan. 584 00:30:26,420 --> 00:30:27,740 Yeah. 585 00:30:27,740 --> 00:30:30,460 All right, now we're gonna get into the fun part. 586 00:30:30,460 --> 00:30:32,180 After a word from our sponsor, 587 00:30:32,180 --> 00:30:34,380 we're going to open up Aminia's mailbox 588 00:30:34,380 --> 00:30:39,140 and then we will hear from Mr. Peter Laurie, 589 00:30:39,140 --> 00:30:40,980 classic film actor. 590 00:30:40,980 --> 00:30:43,940 Mr. Laurie will be joining us on Camp Kaiju 591 00:30:43,940 --> 00:30:48,860 for his first installment of Silent But Deadly, 592 00:30:48,860 --> 00:30:52,980 a completely voluntary assignment 593 00:30:52,980 --> 00:30:56,580 that Mr. Laurie has agreed willingly 594 00:30:56,580 --> 00:31:00,060 and amicably to participate in. 595 00:31:00,060 --> 00:31:01,540 Then after we hear from him, 596 00:31:01,540 --> 00:31:04,660 we're going to get back to Godzilla and Kong. 597 00:31:04,660 --> 00:31:07,220 We're gonna discuss the good, the bad, and the campy 598 00:31:07,220 --> 00:31:11,340 before asking if this movie stands the test of time. 599 00:31:11,340 --> 00:31:15,380 Camp Kaiju Monster Movie Podcast is sponsored by Zach Linder 600 00:31:15,380 --> 00:31:18,340 and the Zach Pack powered by Coldwell Banker Realty, 601 00:31:18,340 --> 00:31:20,380 your source for real estate, home rehab, 602 00:31:20,380 --> 00:31:22,660 fixing and flipping 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00:32:01,820 --> 00:32:06,820 And this one is a longer comment from ArmTube on YouTube 618 00:32:06,820 --> 00:32:11,820 on our YouTube page about our episode on Gorggo, 619 00:32:13,140 --> 00:32:16,940 which was a season two episode. 620 00:32:16,940 --> 00:32:19,300 Those who don't know Gorggo is about, 621 00:32:19,300 --> 00:32:22,460 well, Gorggo is the British Godzilla, 622 00:32:22,460 --> 00:32:27,060 a giant Kaiju what comes ashore from Ireland, 623 00:32:27,060 --> 00:32:31,460 the Irish sea and stomps on London. 624 00:32:31,460 --> 00:32:36,460 With that in mind, ArmTube says Irish co-production? 625 00:32:36,460 --> 00:32:40,180 No Irish company involved, just a bit of location shooting, 626 00:32:40,180 --> 00:32:42,740 which involved renting some local equipment 627 00:32:42,740 --> 00:32:45,740 and hiring a few local technicians to run it, 628 00:32:45,740 --> 00:32:49,500 the absolute minimum required by union rules. 629 00:32:49,500 --> 00:32:52,940 Five days total, the intended nighttime location shots 630 00:32:52,940 --> 00:32:57,340 were filmed in London to avoid paying extra Irish union staff. 631 00:32:57,340 --> 00:33:00,060 Most of the film was shot in 1959. 632 00:33:00,060 --> 00:33:02,980 There was virtually no English Ireland animosity 633 00:33:02,980 --> 00:33:04,820 in the Southern Ireland. 634 00:33:04,820 --> 00:33:08,740 A lot of the British crew were London Irish. 635 00:33:08,740 --> 00:33:11,820 So ArmTube, you're absolutely right. 636 00:33:11,820 --> 00:33:14,020 Historically we're looking at, 637 00:33:14,020 --> 00:33:17,900 Matt and I were commenting on the historical animosity 638 00:33:17,900 --> 00:33:21,820 between Ireland, Southern Ireland in particular, 639 00:33:21,820 --> 00:33:24,740 and the United Kingdom, 640 00:33:24,740 --> 00:33:28,620 and the Irish fight for independence in the 1920s. 641 00:33:28,620 --> 00:33:33,620 So Matt and I were doing a bit of a reading into Gorggo, 642 00:33:33,620 --> 00:33:38,620 the monster being a sort of manifestation of that animosity. 643 00:33:39,940 --> 00:33:44,420 But as ArmTube says, by 1959, 644 00:33:44,420 --> 00:33:47,540 most of that animosity had subsided. 645 00:33:47,540 --> 00:33:50,740 ArmTube goes on to say, cigarettes and films? 646 00:33:50,740 --> 00:33:53,700 In the UK, it was just something to do between lines. 647 00:33:53,700 --> 00:33:56,380 A lot of actors needed a cigarette in their hand 648 00:33:56,380 --> 00:33:58,580 to fiddle with during scenes. 649 00:33:58,580 --> 00:34:01,140 And ArmTube, again, I hear you. 650 00:34:01,140 --> 00:34:04,580 For you listeners now, Matt and I were talking about how 651 00:34:04,580 --> 00:34:07,620 sometimes in films, particularly film noirs 652 00:34:07,620 --> 00:34:12,620 in the United States, a cigarette could represent 653 00:34:14,180 --> 00:34:17,900 a sexual metaphor, the release of sexual inhibitions, 654 00:34:17,900 --> 00:34:21,220 it's phallic, but as Freud said, 655 00:34:21,220 --> 00:34:24,260 sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. 656 00:34:24,260 --> 00:34:28,820 And to ArmTube's point, as an actor myself, 657 00:34:28,820 --> 00:34:32,460 totally cigarettes are just great business 658 00:34:32,460 --> 00:34:33,300 to do with your hands. 659 00:34:33,300 --> 00:34:37,980 I know Dean Martin always, if you see him in live interviews, 660 00:34:37,980 --> 00:34:39,820 for instance, he's always smoking a cigarette 661 00:34:39,820 --> 00:34:42,460 because it's just something to do with his hands. 662 00:34:42,460 --> 00:34:45,660 So that's a legit point. 663 00:34:45,660 --> 00:34:47,940 So thank you ArmTube for bringing those points 664 00:34:47,940 --> 00:34:48,860 to our attention. 665 00:34:48,860 --> 00:34:50,260 Thank you listeners. 666 00:34:50,260 --> 00:34:51,820 We've got more next time, 667 00:34:51,820 --> 00:34:53,620 but please keep sending your thoughts, 668 00:34:53,620 --> 00:34:55,620 questions, and comments to us. 669 00:34:55,620 --> 00:34:59,300 We'll read them and get you featured on the show here. 670 00:34:59,300 --> 00:35:00,140 Fire! 671 00:35:05,860 --> 00:35:08,660 No motion picture of our time has ever unleashed 672 00:35:08,660 --> 00:35:11,780 sharp spectacle of such scope and realism. 673 00:35:11,780 --> 00:35:15,660 As up from the depths of prehistoric mystery rages, Virgo. 674 00:35:19,300 --> 00:35:21,900 The headlines of the world blaze the fabulous story 675 00:35:21,900 --> 00:35:23,980 of this monster from another age. 676 00:35:23,980 --> 00:35:26,820 Can't a pull it from some vast sub-ocean cavern 677 00:35:26,820 --> 00:35:29,540 by unprecedented volcanic action. 678 00:35:29,540 --> 00:35:31,340 And the headlines scream the story 679 00:35:31,340 --> 00:35:34,060 of the reckless skin divers who captured the monster 680 00:35:34,060 --> 00:35:35,500 and put it on exhibition. 681 00:35:36,420 --> 00:35:39,300 Sam, will I drop the net? 682 00:35:39,300 --> 00:35:40,700 What do you think you're doing? 683 00:35:40,700 --> 00:35:42,540 Take it easy, Sam. 684 00:35:42,540 --> 00:35:45,220 I can't let him go back to the sea where he belongs. 685 00:35:45,220 --> 00:35:46,060 Why? 686 00:35:46,060 --> 00:35:48,460 Maybe to save his silly skins for you. 687 00:35:48,460 --> 00:35:50,860 Hurry, hurry, hurry, the sea go go. 688 00:35:50,860 --> 00:35:53,260 But the headlines do not record the story 689 00:35:53,260 --> 00:35:55,820 of a little boy who had a curious sympathy 690 00:35:55,820 --> 00:35:58,820 and understanding for the fantastic creature. 691 00:35:58,820 --> 00:36:01,260 What strange secret does he know 692 00:36:01,260 --> 00:36:03,660 that scientists only suspect? 693 00:36:03,660 --> 00:36:05,100 You're trying to say there may be a fully grown 694 00:36:05,100 --> 00:36:06,740 one of these things around somewhere? 695 00:36:06,740 --> 00:36:08,540 How big would a full grown one be? 696 00:36:08,540 --> 00:36:13,540 On an approximate guess, the infant, the adult. 697 00:36:13,540 --> 00:36:32,540 That'll make him nearly 200 feet tall. 698 00:36:35,420 --> 00:36:38,460 Before Gharloff and Lugosi stocked the screens, 699 00:36:38,460 --> 00:36:41,260 the movies were no less monstrous. 700 00:36:41,260 --> 00:36:45,580 These frightful figures lurked in the expressionistic shadows 701 00:36:45,580 --> 00:36:48,660 and danced in the macabre moonlight. 702 00:36:48,660 --> 00:36:51,180 Oh, they laughed, they cried, 703 00:36:51,180 --> 00:36:54,780 they fooled the sensibilities of honest, decent folk. 704 00:36:55,660 --> 00:36:57,660 In the age of silent pictures, 705 00:36:57,660 --> 00:37:00,820 these gruesome fools nonetheless cried out 706 00:37:00,820 --> 00:37:03,980 for the savage humanity that took the breath from all 707 00:37:03,980 --> 00:37:06,260 who witnessed their devilish delights. 708 00:37:06,260 --> 00:37:13,260 For in the silence, no one can hear you scream. 709 00:37:13,260 --> 00:37:22,260 Indeed, the silent screen was full of silent screams. 710 00:37:22,260 --> 00:37:24,980 I am Peter Laurie. 711 00:37:24,980 --> 00:37:28,460 You may know me from such movies as The Maltese Falcon 712 00:37:28,460 --> 00:37:31,660 and The Beast with Five Fingers. 713 00:37:31,660 --> 00:37:34,860 Matthew and Vincent have disturbed my eternal rest 714 00:37:34,860 --> 00:37:38,260 and given me a microphone to talk about silent movies. 715 00:37:38,260 --> 00:37:40,380 And while I adore these pictures, 716 00:37:40,380 --> 00:37:42,580 I do not take kindly to this abuse. 717 00:37:43,860 --> 00:37:45,900 Well, but what can I do? 718 00:37:45,900 --> 00:37:47,980 They have promised my return to the grave 719 00:37:47,980 --> 00:37:50,580 should I help them celebrate the monster movies 720 00:37:50,580 --> 00:37:52,820 of the 1920s. 721 00:37:52,820 --> 00:37:55,540 Welcome to Silent But Deadly. 722 00:37:58,340 --> 00:38:03,340 This week, we discuss The Phantom of the Opera from 1925. 723 00:38:03,340 --> 00:38:07,020 Produced by Universal Pictures and starring Lon Chaney, 724 00:38:07,020 --> 00:38:11,020 the movie tells of a masked madman living under the Paris Opera House 725 00:38:11,020 --> 00:38:13,900 who is believed by many to be merely a ghost. 726 00:38:13,900 --> 00:38:17,100 However, this phantom is soon all too real 727 00:38:17,100 --> 00:38:19,340 when he falls in love with Christine, 728 00:38:19,340 --> 00:38:22,140 the young ingenue of the company. 729 00:38:22,140 --> 00:38:24,700 The Phantom soon captures Christine, 730 00:38:24,700 --> 00:38:26,780 wantonly destroys a chandelier, 731 00:38:26,780 --> 00:38:29,260 and murders dozens of those who would laugh at him. 732 00:38:29,260 --> 00:38:31,900 Now, bringing the Phantom to life is Lon Chaney, 733 00:38:31,900 --> 00:38:34,780 known as the man of a thousand faces. 734 00:38:34,780 --> 00:38:37,580 Chaney was a star at this point in his career, 735 00:38:37,580 --> 00:38:41,180 renowned for his talents with makeup, physical dexterity, 736 00:38:41,180 --> 00:38:43,420 and the ability to imbue his characters 737 00:38:43,420 --> 00:38:45,980 with a sympathetic humanity. 738 00:38:45,980 --> 00:38:48,780 The Phantom of the Opera is a tremendous example 739 00:38:48,780 --> 00:38:50,620 of Chaney's reputation. 740 00:38:52,380 --> 00:38:54,940 Chaney makes an indelible impression, 741 00:38:54,940 --> 00:38:57,580 but more subconsciously, the movie reflects his own 742 00:38:57,580 --> 00:39:00,780 anxieties of post-war audiences of the 1920s. 743 00:39:00,780 --> 00:39:04,780 This was a time when many veterans of the First World War 744 00:39:04,780 --> 00:39:07,180 were living with ghastly disfigurements, 745 00:39:07,180 --> 00:39:10,380 often wearing masks much like the phantoms. 746 00:39:10,380 --> 00:39:14,060 The movie asks us to reflect on how society treats 747 00:39:14,060 --> 00:39:16,780 the physically disabled among us. 748 00:39:16,780 --> 00:39:20,380 The Phantom of the Opera was a smash for Universal, 749 00:39:20,380 --> 00:39:23,580 helping establish the studio's reputation for horror 750 00:39:23,580 --> 00:39:26,380 and cementing Lon Chaney's story. 751 00:39:26,380 --> 00:39:29,980 And cementing Lon Chaney's status as a legend for the ages. 752 00:39:31,100 --> 00:39:32,940 Next time on Silent But Deadly, 753 00:39:32,940 --> 00:39:36,140 we will feature an underrated movie by Todd Browning 754 00:39:36,140 --> 00:39:37,820 called The Mystic. 755 00:39:37,820 --> 00:39:41,100 And I will be one movie closer to escaping this podcast 756 00:39:41,100 --> 00:39:43,820 and resting my weary bones in the confines 757 00:39:43,820 --> 00:39:45,340 of my beloved grave. 758 00:39:45,340 --> 00:40:02,540 Well, let's get to what we all love about Kam Kaiju. 759 00:40:02,540 --> 00:40:04,700 So we'll talk about our breakdowns, you know, 760 00:40:04,700 --> 00:40:06,540 the good, the bad and the campy. 761 00:40:06,540 --> 00:40:09,500 We'll start with the good, you know, whoever wants to go first. 762 00:40:10,380 --> 00:40:11,900 What did you like about this movie? 763 00:40:11,900 --> 00:40:19,340 Something that I like that kind of carries over from Godzilla versus Kong is 764 00:40:21,020 --> 00:40:25,660 I'm kind of fascinated with the Hollow Earth concept, 765 00:40:26,300 --> 00:40:32,620 you know, just with this whole kind of origin that we get to find of Kong 766 00:40:32,620 --> 00:40:38,460 and where he's from and kind of fleshing out him as a character. 767 00:40:38,460 --> 00:40:43,500 I think that just at its basis as a concept, it's good. 768 00:40:44,620 --> 00:40:49,820 Visually, I find it interesting, kind of rings a little bit like, 769 00:40:50,460 --> 00:40:54,700 you know, Pandora from Avatar in sort of a way. 770 00:40:55,820 --> 00:40:59,820 I thought, I'm not quite sure where I land on how they 771 00:40:59,820 --> 00:41:01,900 quote unquote expanded on that universe. 772 00:41:03,180 --> 00:41:06,940 You know, with this movie, I thought they had set something up really great 773 00:41:06,940 --> 00:41:11,980 in the first movie that I still think was interesting in this movie. 774 00:41:11,980 --> 00:41:16,220 But, you know, they kind of created like and one of Hollow Earth had a hollow, 775 00:41:16,220 --> 00:41:22,060 hollow, you know, where the scar king is, you know, and all of that. 776 00:41:22,060 --> 00:41:26,220 So, I mean, they kind of did something like that. 777 00:41:26,220 --> 00:41:28,700 But overall, I think the concept of Hollow Earth is interesting. 778 00:41:29,660 --> 00:41:34,220 Yeah, I also think it brings it in the fantasy genre a little bit, 779 00:41:34,220 --> 00:41:38,540 which is modeled by the fact like it's not clearly defined, like what the Hollow Earth is. 780 00:41:38,540 --> 00:41:44,940 And then without giving too much away, the TV show, I feel like muddles that a little bit as well. 781 00:41:45,820 --> 00:41:48,940 But I would agree with Mike. I was excited for more Hollow Earth. 782 00:41:48,940 --> 00:41:53,820 I was excited. It's beautiful. It's beautiful to be with that, to be in. 783 00:41:55,340 --> 00:42:00,060 And I liked how, especially the first part of the movie is just calm, like no dialogue. 784 00:42:00,060 --> 00:42:01,500 I love this idea of like a no. 785 00:42:01,500 --> 00:42:07,260 I would love for them to like just have a no dialogue, the monster verse movie. 786 00:42:07,260 --> 00:42:09,180 I would love for them to just like go for it. 787 00:42:09,180 --> 00:42:14,300 Because often that I feel like that's where these movies always really like where they thrive, 788 00:42:15,820 --> 00:42:18,620 especially with this with following King Kong as a character. 789 00:42:18,620 --> 00:42:20,620 And there are scenes without dialogue. 790 00:42:21,820 --> 00:42:24,620 And it's when the humans get involved that things get a little dumb. 791 00:42:27,900 --> 00:42:29,100 I guess I can go next. 792 00:42:29,100 --> 00:42:35,100 I guess to what both of you had said so far, I really enjoyed the camp aspect of this movie 793 00:42:35,100 --> 00:42:37,100 more than I thought I was going to. 794 00:42:37,100 --> 00:42:40,140 It's hard to know what you're going to get from a monster movie in general, 795 00:42:40,140 --> 00:42:42,140 let alone a King Kong and a Godzilla movie. 796 00:42:42,140 --> 00:42:47,340 And it's good to know that you pointed out, Vincent, that they were leaning a little heavier into the camp. 797 00:42:47,340 --> 00:42:50,940 I almost wish I had known that going into the movie before I'd seen it. 798 00:42:50,940 --> 00:42:52,940 But knowing it now, it makes a lot more sense. 799 00:42:52,940 --> 00:42:56,300 You know, there's two kind of camps or there's two camps of camp, I guess. 800 00:42:56,300 --> 00:42:59,740 One unintentional camp and one that's very intentional camp. 801 00:42:59,740 --> 00:43:05,900 I think they made a movie with a mixture of both kind of beautifully where they stumbled onto some camp moments where it's like, 802 00:43:05,900 --> 00:43:09,100 I don't know if you meant for that to be funny, but it is real funny. 803 00:43:09,900 --> 00:43:13,260 And then moments where like Godzilla's curled up in the Coliseum. 804 00:43:13,260 --> 00:43:14,780 It's just cute campy fun. 805 00:43:14,780 --> 00:43:19,500 And I feel like they did a good mix, whether or not that was intentional. 806 00:43:19,500 --> 00:43:20,540 I had a good time with it. 807 00:43:21,500 --> 00:43:22,220 Yeah. 808 00:43:22,220 --> 00:43:22,780 Yeah. 809 00:43:22,780 --> 00:43:29,660 A lot of these movies, it's a vibe more than anything. 810 00:43:29,660 --> 00:43:39,260 You know, it's an experience of, you know, this is not a movie that I would sit by myself in my house and watch. 811 00:43:39,260 --> 00:43:40,700 Not in a second. 812 00:43:40,700 --> 00:43:42,300 And maybe that's just me. 813 00:43:42,300 --> 00:43:49,820 But going to a theater with five of my friends to watch it, where it's like, 814 00:43:49,820 --> 00:43:58,460 halfway through the movie for like 10 minutes and then everyone yells at the screen until they can get it started up again 20 minutes later. 815 00:43:58,460 --> 00:44:05,020 It's just an experience. 816 00:44:05,020 --> 00:44:11,420 It's not surprising to me that it has had a really successful theater run because of that. 817 00:44:11,420 --> 00:44:12,940 And it leans into that idea. 818 00:44:12,940 --> 00:44:13,500 Yeah. 819 00:44:13,500 --> 00:44:15,660 I think we just got to talk about that because I forgot. 820 00:44:15,660 --> 00:44:23,580 For those listening, we all went and saw this together at a theater in St. Louis Park, Minnesota. 821 00:44:23,580 --> 00:44:26,460 And this hasn't happened to me in such a long time. 822 00:44:26,460 --> 00:44:31,660 The movie froze and it was like a good 20 minutes. 823 00:44:31,660 --> 00:44:32,940 The sound went out. 824 00:44:32,940 --> 00:44:35,660 The sound continuously went out. 825 00:44:35,660 --> 00:44:39,660 And the first time it happened, we thought it was part of the movie, but then it kept happening. 826 00:44:39,660 --> 00:44:41,660 We thought it was part of the movie. 827 00:44:41,660 --> 00:44:46,220 Because one of the characters is deaf and we're like, oh, we're hearing what she's hearing. 828 00:44:46,220 --> 00:44:49,020 That was not the case. 829 00:44:49,020 --> 00:44:54,220 No, we thought for a second the movie was making an interesting artistic choice. 830 00:44:54,220 --> 00:44:56,220 Clearly not. 831 00:44:56,220 --> 00:44:57,260 Maybe they should have. 832 00:44:57,260 --> 00:44:57,900 Take note. 833 00:44:57,900 --> 00:44:58,940 Take note, directors. 834 00:44:58,940 --> 00:45:00,620 But it was funny. 835 00:45:00,620 --> 00:45:03,020 And I mean, it was a Sunday matinee. 836 00:45:03,020 --> 00:45:08,220 And so it's not that the theater was, you know, it was a Sunday matinee. 837 00:45:08,220 --> 00:45:14,220 And so it's not that the theater was crowded by any means. 838 00:45:14,220 --> 00:45:22,220 But once that happened, you can hear people just yelling from different parts of the theater. 839 00:45:22,220 --> 00:45:24,220 It was mutinous. 840 00:45:24,220 --> 00:45:25,740 Yeah, it was. 841 00:45:25,740 --> 00:45:31,900 And we got, you know, free tickets afterwards for 20 minutes. 842 00:45:31,900 --> 00:45:35,580 They had to pause the movie for 15 minutes to fix it. 843 00:45:35,580 --> 00:45:39,420 And then they and I never seen they were wound with a bit. 844 00:45:42,300 --> 00:45:48,220 Well, and Gary had, you know, gotten all of our tickets beforehand so we could all sit together. 845 00:45:48,220 --> 00:45:56,780 And and he we paid him for the tickets and then he went and got his refund and didn't think to get refunds for the rest of us. 846 00:45:58,940 --> 00:46:00,060 Yeah, I'm still mad about that. 847 00:46:00,060 --> 00:46:04,220 Yeah, I'm a bad person. 848 00:46:04,220 --> 00:46:06,220 I feel like it's fair. 849 00:46:06,220 --> 00:46:09,740 That's like your payback for like wrangling all the tickets in the first place. 850 00:46:09,740 --> 00:46:11,260 You know, it's like a finder's deal. 851 00:46:11,260 --> 00:46:12,220 No, no, no. 852 00:46:12,220 --> 00:46:15,020 Let's let's not even go through that whole thing again. 853 00:46:15,020 --> 00:46:16,220 I took out the risk. 854 00:46:16,220 --> 00:46:23,180 I took on the responsibility and I didn't I didn't I didn't live up to expectations. 855 00:46:23,180 --> 00:46:29,020 Anyways, Matt, did you want to add to what you liked about this movie? 856 00:46:29,020 --> 00:46:33,420 Um, I think that what I liked most about it is that, like, I think it looks really good. 857 00:46:33,420 --> 00:46:41,100 And, you know, I mean, like, it's not really like a rare thing for CGI to look like, oh, like, they spend a lot of time on it and looks good. 858 00:46:41,100 --> 00:46:43,420 That's like almost any major blockbuster these days. 859 00:46:43,420 --> 00:46:47,820 But I think it looks like creative and beautiful in a way that I didn't really expect. 860 00:46:47,820 --> 00:46:50,540 Like, there are a lot of like bright neon colors. 861 00:46:50,540 --> 00:46:58,460 Like, there's a scene where Godzilla is like he's kind of like rising into the stratosphere and he has like this like bright pink glow. 862 00:46:58,460 --> 00:47:00,780 So that was that was a nice touch. 863 00:47:00,780 --> 00:47:05,420 I think like the special effects, you know, they're not they're not just like well done. 864 00:47:05,420 --> 00:47:06,940 They're also like creatively done. 865 00:47:06,940 --> 00:47:08,780 So I appreciate appreciated that. 866 00:47:08,780 --> 00:47:12,940 And there's like a big climax where there's a lot going on. 867 00:47:12,940 --> 00:47:18,140 Like, there are a lot of different like kaiju's and different characters in the movie like Mothra. 868 00:47:18,140 --> 00:47:21,980 It makes an appearance. We talked about some of the other original monsters in the movie before. 869 00:47:21,980 --> 00:47:28,380 And in that big climax, like there's so much going on, but you kind of always know where you are and what's happening. 870 00:47:28,380 --> 00:47:32,460 And I feel like in like a really chaotic action scene, sometimes that's not the case. 871 00:47:32,460 --> 00:47:35,980 It's just like sensory overload and you have no idea what's going on. 872 00:47:35,980 --> 00:47:42,300 But in this case, it's like, oh, they need to like make it to like that exact portal and like they need to get this thing to do that. 873 00:47:42,300 --> 00:47:46,300 So I thought like the editing and the construction of that scene was really well done. 874 00:47:46,300 --> 00:47:50,780 Overall, I think it's just like a formally pretty impressive movie. 875 00:47:50,780 --> 00:47:53,180 Wow, that's the high. I don't know, Matt. 876 00:47:53,180 --> 00:47:56,380 I mean, that's great. Just I didn't expect you to. 877 00:47:56,380 --> 00:48:03,340 To be such a fan of a CGI heavy movie like this, I'll have a lot of bad stuff to say in the next section as well. 878 00:48:03,340 --> 00:48:06,380 OK, there it is. 879 00:48:07,900 --> 00:48:10,780 I loved what they're going for in the 2014 Godzilla. 880 00:48:10,780 --> 00:48:15,100 It's like a more grounded reality and a more grounded reality. 881 00:48:15,100 --> 00:48:17,260 And a more dramatic tone. 882 00:48:17,260 --> 00:48:22,860 I just don't think they pulled it off as well with the with the character. 883 00:48:22,860 --> 00:48:26,140 Like, I think it was a high bar that they're going for that I really appreciate. 884 00:48:26,140 --> 00:48:27,180 I just don't think they did it. 885 00:48:27,180 --> 00:48:36,300 And I think they've almost been wise to take him to this more colorful or Jewish, happy level that I do think is easier than it. 886 00:48:36,300 --> 00:48:38,300 But they do hit it. So it's a lot of fun. 887 00:48:38,300 --> 00:48:43,660 So it ends up being kind of like, yeah, a fun popcorn movie to go to. 888 00:48:43,660 --> 00:48:54,620 Yeah, I did like the again, I like the smaller ensemble, but I did like the continuing relationship between Gia and Dr. 889 00:48:54,620 --> 00:49:07,100 Andrews, the mom daughter relationship and Gia's journey to from, you know, she like Kong is wayward and lost her family, her tribe. 890 00:49:07,100 --> 00:49:13,900 The we were all wiped out on Skull Island within the monster verse world. 891 00:49:13,900 --> 00:49:20,220 But now Gia has found sort of an outcast group of we in the Hollow Earth. 892 00:49:20,220 --> 00:49:26,220 So it's like, oh, great. Like she is mirroring Kong in this journey. 893 00:49:26,220 --> 00:49:28,060 What does it think we don't like about this movie? 894 00:49:28,060 --> 00:49:30,300 You know, I'll keep it short. 895 00:49:30,300 --> 00:49:42,460 I wasn't 100 percent on board with the with the the aesthetic of the film, which to me felt very Guardians of the Galaxy at times, which I like Guardians of the Galaxy. 896 00:49:42,460 --> 00:49:46,700 That tone wasn't consistent enough in Wingard's movie for me to buy it. 897 00:49:46,700 --> 00:49:52,060 It felt more like lip service, like, oh, look, we're being we're adding modern pop songs. 898 00:49:52,060 --> 00:49:56,060 We have a character who looks like the Chris Pratt character. 899 00:49:56,060 --> 00:50:01,420 Yeah, we're doing this ragtag team of of space adventurers. 900 00:50:01,420 --> 00:50:08,300 Which at times I was like, I don't know, I just feel like you're you're trying to ride a wave here, but that's a taste thing. 901 00:50:08,300 --> 00:50:10,860 What do you guys think? 902 00:50:10,860 --> 00:50:13,500 I yeah, I'm on board with that for you. 903 00:50:13,500 --> 00:50:20,140 I think aesthetically, though they're you know, they took a big swing, I feel like with this movie. 904 00:50:20,140 --> 00:50:23,180 I don't know if they quite hit made contact with the ball. 905 00:50:23,180 --> 00:50:29,100 I'm using a sports reference as a gay man on this monster movie podcast, so I'm feeling very proud of myself right now. 906 00:50:29,100 --> 00:50:32,860 But I don't know that it really paid off. 907 00:50:32,860 --> 00:50:41,180 I kind of agree with you in that I didn't as much as I liked the camp, I didn't love the it had kind of comic book vibes to it. 908 00:50:41,180 --> 00:50:45,100 And I didn't really think it needed that necessarily for a movie like this. 909 00:50:45,100 --> 00:50:48,300 It just felt a little bit haphazard with the writing. 910 00:50:48,300 --> 00:50:52,300 And I think that maybe had something they really fast tracked this movie, as you kind of alluded to. 911 00:50:52,300 --> 00:50:58,860 Like they shot it in six months or something with was when they were done filming the entire movie for a movie like this. 912 00:50:58,860 --> 00:51:00,700 It feels like it needed some more time to bake. 913 00:51:00,700 --> 00:51:08,540 And so I think maybe that was where my hesitation of giving it like a full on great review is that it just it I don't know. 914 00:51:08,540 --> 00:51:12,460 It had some some some muddied perspectives, I think. 915 00:51:12,460 --> 00:51:21,340 Yeah. Well, and I think you're you are hitting on especially the fence, which you said with, you know, the guardians of the galaxy aesthetic. 916 00:51:21,340 --> 00:51:25,100 But we kind of see that throughout the movie of it. 917 00:51:25,100 --> 00:51:30,060 It can't really come. It's having trouble coming up with an original aesthetic of its own. 918 00:51:30,060 --> 00:51:42,940 And it's really kind of latching on to some of the most popular worlds and themes of kind of similar genre movies of the past 20 years. 919 00:51:42,940 --> 00:51:47,340 Not just Guardians of the Galaxy, but I mean, I mentioned it earlier talking about all the world. 920 00:51:47,340 --> 00:52:04,940 I mean, it's it's so similar to Pandora and even the, you know, the the journey of the concept of the tribe is so similar to the Avatar world and the, you know, even the color schemes and all of that. 921 00:52:04,940 --> 00:52:09,420 And so, yeah, it does feel that, you know. 922 00:52:09,420 --> 00:52:16,780 It is trying to hold all these things that have worked for other movies into its own to make it work. 923 00:52:16,780 --> 00:52:20,220 I don't think that's unintentional, you know, for the record. 924 00:52:20,220 --> 00:52:21,980 I mean, let's be honest. 925 00:52:21,980 --> 00:52:29,580 So much of this is a cash grab of a movie, you know, to get people to the theaters to have fun. 926 00:52:29,580 --> 00:52:31,740 And frankly, it worked, you know. 927 00:52:31,740 --> 00:52:38,220 So I guess I can't discredit it too much for that, even though it's annoying. 928 00:52:38,220 --> 00:52:46,060 Right. I have a specific criticism and I agree with everyone's criticism so far as well. 929 00:52:46,060 --> 00:52:48,940 Thank you, Gary. 930 00:52:48,940 --> 00:52:55,340 The the so Brian Tyree Henry plays Bernie Hayes. 931 00:52:55,340 --> 00:53:03,820 I have issues with this character and I love Brian Tyree Henry, a huge fan of his work at Atlanta, Oswe. 932 00:53:03,820 --> 00:53:07,020 And Widows, I think he's a phenomenal actor. 933 00:53:07,020 --> 00:53:18,140 I just I have an issue with, like, especially in today, the parlance of our times as I were just lionizing conspiracy theorists kind of giving him like, 934 00:53:18,140 --> 00:53:26,620 he is kind of this weird and podcasting conspiracy theorist who's kind of upset that people don't take him seriously. 935 00:53:26,620 --> 00:53:28,220 And then and then he's kind of right. 936 00:53:28,220 --> 00:53:33,660 And I don't know, I just I kind of take issue with that a little bit, just my own personal opinion. 937 00:53:33,660 --> 00:53:38,860 And I also find this character a little obnoxious when it doesn't need to be like it doesn't need to be. 938 00:53:38,860 --> 00:53:43,020 And I felt this way in God's Will versus Kong as well, like he doesn't have to be annoying. 939 00:53:43,020 --> 00:53:44,700 He could just be like a dude. 940 00:53:44,700 --> 00:53:48,940 Like, we don't have to have him be like, oh, the joke is that he's obnoxious. 941 00:53:48,940 --> 00:53:51,340 I guess I don't always love that character. 942 00:53:51,340 --> 00:54:01,580 I feel like the character can almost work better if he was just taken seriously as a character and given more to do than just be kind of obnoxious. 943 00:54:01,580 --> 00:54:09,900 He reminds me of Dr. Ian Malcolm, like that could be a version of the character who is obnoxious, but we take him seriously. 944 00:54:09,900 --> 00:54:11,980 He's not there for laughs. 945 00:54:11,980 --> 00:54:14,460 One one review that I read made kind of a good point. 946 00:54:14,460 --> 00:54:20,780 I thought that the Brian Tyree Henry character and the Dan Stevens character are awkwardly similar. 947 00:54:20,780 --> 00:54:25,500 Like they're both kind of like wisecracking, sort of like comic relief, who are good at their jobs. 948 00:54:25,500 --> 00:54:28,860 But again, like, you know, maybe don't take them very seriously. 949 00:54:28,860 --> 00:54:31,740 And it's like they probably don't need to be in this movie. 950 00:54:31,740 --> 00:54:38,780 And the fact that they're both in the movie makes it sort of like a strange buddy comedy at times when that's maybe not the point of the film. 951 00:54:38,780 --> 00:54:40,700 So that is a valid criticism, I think. 952 00:54:40,700 --> 00:54:49,980 But for me, I like the thing that I disliked the most about the movies goes back to what most of you already said, which is that like it feels like it comes off the assembly line. 953 00:54:49,980 --> 00:54:56,620 We watched this a couple of weeks ago, maybe like a month ago at this point, and I'm already struggling to like remember any of it. 954 00:54:56,620 --> 00:54:59,660 I'm like, what actually happened? 955 00:54:59,660 --> 00:55:03,900 I think most of the human stories are like totally forgettable and cliched. 956 00:55:03,900 --> 00:55:14,460 Like, you know, there's the mother surrogate daughter relationship between Rebecca Hall and the character of Gia played by Kaylee. 957 00:55:14,460 --> 00:55:18,220 So, yeah, I mean, like there's that sort of like emotional core, but it just doesn't work at all. 958 00:55:18,220 --> 00:55:21,180 And it kind of makes Rebecca Hall this like bland mother character. 959 00:55:21,180 --> 00:55:22,700 And that's all she does throughout the whole movie. 960 00:55:22,700 --> 00:55:34,140 Basically, I think like the sort of like there's this kind of indigenous community that's in a hollow earth that's revealed to be sort of like endangered by what's going on in the film. 961 00:55:34,140 --> 00:55:38,540 But even that kind of harkens back to like some of the old Toho movies like Mothra. 962 00:55:38,540 --> 00:55:47,420 I think the fact that Gia has this kind of like psychic bond with Godzilla is very similar to Godzilla, Godzilla versus Bialante. 963 00:55:47,420 --> 00:55:51,020 That's like almost literally the exact same story as that movie. 964 00:55:51,020 --> 00:55:58,460 So it's like this I feel like almost all of GXK, that's what I'm going to call it, is kind of ripping from other stuff. 965 00:55:58,460 --> 00:56:06,140 And I mean, like Mike said it best, it's a cash grab and it's a little bit too blatant of a cash grab, in my opinion. 966 00:56:06,140 --> 00:56:12,780 Just when we thought that like this movie, there's that I was waiting unleashes. 967 00:56:12,780 --> 00:56:21,180 Matt, I was thinking a similar thing though, when we're like thinking about doing this podcast, because I was also struggling, man, I don't even remember like what happened. 968 00:56:21,180 --> 00:56:29,180 And it is something I think an issue with these movies, it's like so much money and effort was made for us to kind of forget about it, you know. 969 00:56:29,180 --> 00:56:35,740 And maybe, I mean, yeah, maybe you could do something with like a little less. 970 00:56:35,740 --> 00:56:43,900 And I love the camp, maybe a little less camp, a little bit more heart and it might stick with us like a little bit more. 971 00:56:43,900 --> 00:56:54,860 Yeah, I think that's fair. One campy thing just to because like we I could I could riff on on so much more. 972 00:56:54,860 --> 00:57:02,700 But I want to bring up the we were laughing about this post the post movie over some drinks and we were laughing about how. 973 00:57:02,700 --> 00:57:13,420 There is no regard for the wonders of the world, the Colosseum trash, the pyramids garbage. 974 00:57:13,420 --> 00:57:17,420 Rio de Janeiro, who cares? It's just like. 975 00:57:17,420 --> 00:57:24,620 Yeah, for human life, for that matter, the thousands, if not millions of people die. 976 00:57:24,620 --> 00:57:27,100 There's just nothing left of Earth. 977 00:57:27,100 --> 00:57:38,620 Well, and that's no different from I mean, if you look at the Marvel universe, too, I mean, yes, I know technically there is a whole section of the Marvel universe, the people who need to clean up afterward. 978 00:57:38,620 --> 00:57:43,260 But I mean, it's, you know. Yeah, but there's. Yeah. 979 00:57:43,260 --> 00:57:53,500 Yeah. And I wouldn't be surprised if a third installment of this movie comes out, if the pyramids are back and nothing is said. 980 00:57:53,500 --> 00:57:58,460 Yeah. Yeah. Only to be destroyed again. Oh, man. 981 00:57:58,460 --> 00:58:02,220 For me, I feel like they're on the opposite scale of that of that large scale. 982 00:58:02,220 --> 00:58:10,860 The the conveniences, the many conveniences that are played up in this movie of like, oh, we just happen to have this here because we have to move the story forward. 983 00:58:10,860 --> 00:58:16,740 Yeah. Happened like five too many times, I think, in this movie for me to go, OK, I can't forgive that anymore. 984 00:58:16,740 --> 00:58:18,740 That's just a writer problem. 985 00:58:18,740 --> 00:58:30,220 Like what I'm calling, if you were born in the early 80s or 70s, the power glove moment in this movie, I was just like, all right, guys, this is I know that's it's I think there's some historical context with this glove. 986 00:58:30,220 --> 00:58:36,980 It's the beast glove or whatever it's called. But it just it was a bridge too far for me or a bridge to perfect. 987 00:58:36,980 --> 00:58:39,820 I can't decide yet. No, 100 percent. 988 00:58:39,820 --> 00:58:46,500 Am I remembering this correctly? Because as I said, like Matt, I'm having trouble remembering a lot of this movie. 989 00:58:46,500 --> 00:58:50,460 Some things like, yeah, them fighting over the pyramids, you know, I remember. 990 00:58:50,460 --> 00:58:53,380 But and tell me if I. 991 00:58:53,380 --> 00:58:58,580 I'm making this up, but did Kong do like a high dive off of the rocket Gibraltar? 992 00:58:58,580 --> 00:59:01,260 That was Godzilla. Godzilla did. Yeah. 993 00:59:02,700 --> 00:59:04,820 Yeah, it should be so memorable, right? 994 00:59:04,820 --> 00:59:07,900 But like already a couple of weeks later, we're like, wait a minute, did that happen? 995 00:59:09,460 --> 00:59:12,460 Yeah, so much happens so quickly. 996 00:59:12,460 --> 00:59:17,940 It's yeah, individually great moments, but they blur together, which is unfortunate. 997 00:59:17,940 --> 00:59:23,980 The blocks are needlessly complicated to they could just they could simplify the plot. 998 00:59:23,980 --> 00:59:26,380 I feel like that's why we forget a lot of stuff to this. 999 00:59:26,380 --> 00:59:32,500 It's like during the movie, I was just confused, not because I'm dumb, which I am, but just because that 1000 00:59:33,500 --> 00:59:36,180 but because like the plot is just needlessly 1001 00:59:37,260 --> 00:59:39,740 convoluted it. And what? Yeah. 1002 00:59:39,740 --> 00:59:44,660 When ultimately like the plot is it needs to an end, we're all there to just eventually watch 1003 00:59:45,220 --> 00:59:47,540 like giant monsters fight each other, right? 1004 00:59:48,540 --> 00:59:54,060 And we didn't and we haven't even talked about Scar King, who as an as like the big bad, 1005 00:59:54,620 --> 00:59:59,460 it's unfortunate that we don't even remember that character because it was nothing, nothing memorable. 1006 01:00:00,380 --> 01:00:04,500 Well, it's also weird that Scar King doesn't show up in this movie to like about halfway through. 1007 01:00:04,820 --> 01:00:08,300 So it's like, why? Why do we really care about his motivation? 1008 01:00:08,300 --> 01:00:12,980 And like their antagonism, you know, like, so it feels like too little too late kind of, you know. 1009 01:00:13,500 --> 01:00:18,380 Yeah, because I think, yeah, Godzilla and Kong do have to team up to defeat 1010 01:00:19,100 --> 01:00:25,140 Scar King and I know Mothra is there for no good reason to maybe we can talk about that. 1011 01:00:25,140 --> 01:00:28,980 But I think something that's interesting to see if 1012 01:00:29,980 --> 01:00:35,140 because I know he's expressed interest in doing a more Godzilla focused movie that we really do have an 1013 01:00:35,140 --> 01:00:42,620 understanding of like Kong and what he wants and, you know, sort of the character behind him. 1014 01:00:43,100 --> 01:00:49,620 All we really know of Godzilla is that he is very sleepy and he does not like to be woken up. 1015 01:00:51,700 --> 01:00:53,380 And so he's the king. 1016 01:00:53,380 --> 01:00:58,500 I do kind of enjoy that, like that kind of that because, you know, Kong's a primate. 1017 01:00:59,020 --> 01:01:03,820 We're primates. He has more humanity and Kong is just this or Godzilla is just this like 1018 01:01:03,820 --> 01:01:06,820 a lizard that you do not mess with. 1019 01:01:08,660 --> 01:01:12,820 And so I guess I have a lot because I have less of an issue with that. 1020 01:01:12,820 --> 01:01:17,900 Like, yeah, Godzilla isn't really a character, whereas Kong is. 1021 01:01:17,900 --> 01:01:20,340 But I feel like that's kind of just how it's always been. 1022 01:01:21,100 --> 01:01:27,860 Yeah, but they but it it's like they're trying to have it both ways, though, you know, because you can say that like, 1023 01:01:27,860 --> 01:01:30,140 oh, yeah, because I think that's totally legit. 1024 01:01:30,420 --> 01:01:32,380 Sure. Godzilla just don't wake up. 1025 01:01:32,380 --> 01:01:34,180 He's going to be pissed off. 1026 01:01:34,180 --> 01:01:37,220 And that's, you know, a king of the monsters. 1027 01:01:37,780 --> 01:01:43,620 But they try to have it both ways where, you know, you kind of what they're fighting at the pyramids, where 1028 01:01:44,100 --> 01:01:50,340 Kong is trying to get through to Godzilla that, you know, oh, you need to help me to do this. 1029 01:01:50,340 --> 01:01:51,340 And he does. 1030 01:01:52,060 --> 01:01:54,180 And so they're exactly. 1031 01:01:54,180 --> 01:01:59,100 So is there like some character within there and. 1032 01:01:59,100 --> 01:02:03,180 Right. No, they took the shortcut and said Mothra is here now. 1033 01:02:03,180 --> 01:02:04,900 Mothra will convince Godzilla. 1034 01:02:04,900 --> 01:02:12,740 But like that, that that still doesn't track like we don't there's nothing in Godzilla's character story to buy that. 1035 01:02:12,740 --> 01:02:17,820 I mean, sure, that was established in the previous movie, but it all happened very too quickly. 1036 01:02:17,820 --> 01:02:19,420 Patrick, you said it best like this. 1037 01:02:19,420 --> 01:02:22,060 This has a feeling of being rushed by the end. 1038 01:02:23,260 --> 01:02:25,220 All of a sudden, and then. 1039 01:02:25,220 --> 01:02:29,220 Shorter, I don't know, it feels like a short movie. We go from zero to 60. 1040 01:02:29,220 --> 01:02:33,020 Yeah, they use like the humans to sort of be like, oh, here's what Godzilla is thinking. 1041 01:02:33,020 --> 01:02:34,220 That's why he's going there. 1042 01:02:34,220 --> 01:02:35,820 It's like, how do you know? 1043 01:02:35,820 --> 01:02:38,820 How are you like, did he write a letter to you? 1044 01:02:38,820 --> 01:02:40,420 I don't understand how you know this. 1045 01:02:42,220 --> 01:02:49,220 Yeah, and the whole like, you know, the psychic connection thing with the Gia character is like, it's not convincing. 1046 01:02:49,220 --> 01:02:52,220 It's, you know, like you said, Patrick, it's like, I don't know. 1047 01:02:52,220 --> 01:02:56,220 You're trying to like convince us of the narrative in like this very lazy way, you know. 1048 01:02:58,220 --> 01:02:59,220 Mm hmm. 1049 01:02:59,220 --> 01:03:05,220 Well, guys, on that note, let us bring this conversation to a close. 1050 01:03:05,220 --> 01:03:08,620 Let us give the movie a final rating. 1051 01:03:08,620 --> 01:03:10,220 Does it stand the test of time? 1052 01:03:10,220 --> 01:03:13,620 And Matt, this is your favorite part of the of the show. 1053 01:03:13,620 --> 01:03:17,220 So set us up, tee us up and we'll. 1054 01:03:17,220 --> 01:03:19,220 We'll hit the ball. 1055 01:03:19,220 --> 01:03:22,220 I know the sports metaphor. I love it. It's the same. 1056 01:03:22,220 --> 01:03:24,220 It's the same sports metaphor, but OK. Yeah. 1057 01:03:27,220 --> 01:03:29,220 But you're right. I've missed this. 1058 01:03:29,220 --> 01:03:30,220 It's been too long, Vincent. 1059 01:03:30,220 --> 01:03:34,220 This is my favorite part of the show, so it's an honor to do this again. 1060 01:03:34,220 --> 01:03:40,220 Our four ratings here on Camp Kaiju are it's a timeless classic that stands the test of time. 1061 01:03:40,220 --> 01:03:45,220 The second rating, there may be some antiquated moments, but overall it's great and stands the test of time. 1062 01:03:45,220 --> 01:03:52,220 Number three, it may be historically significant or just fun, but it does not stand the test of time and our lowest rating. 1063 01:03:52,220 --> 01:03:56,220 It is not worth revisiting and definitely does not stand the test of time. 1064 01:03:58,220 --> 01:04:00,220 I can start us off if you'd like. 1065 01:04:00,220 --> 01:04:07,220 I'll keep it short for me. I mean, this is a fun movie, so I'll give it our second lowest rating. 1066 01:04:07,220 --> 01:04:10,220 It's fun, but I don't think it stands the test of time. 1067 01:04:10,220 --> 01:04:14,220 As we already talked about, like a month later, it's already not standing the test of time. 1068 01:04:14,220 --> 01:04:16,220 So, yeah, it's fun. 1069 01:04:16,220 --> 01:04:21,220 It's not a bad way to waste a couple hours, but I don't think it's really going to hold up in the long run. 1070 01:04:21,220 --> 01:04:23,220 I agree. I think it is. 1071 01:04:23,220 --> 01:04:27,220 I don't think it's historically significant, but I do think it is fun. 1072 01:04:27,220 --> 01:04:31,220 And well, I guess, yeah, it does not stand the test of time. 1073 01:04:31,220 --> 01:04:34,220 It will not stand the test of time, but it's fun. 1074 01:04:34,220 --> 01:04:36,220 Agreed. The movie is utterly forgettable. 1075 01:04:36,220 --> 01:04:45,220 But when the third one comes out, if you want to go see it and get some people together to spend a Sunday afternoon, count me in. 1076 01:04:45,220 --> 01:04:47,220 Sounds so enthusiastic. 1077 01:04:47,220 --> 01:04:49,220 Let me say it again. 1078 01:04:49,220 --> 01:04:54,220 If you get a group of people together to go see it, like on a Sunday afternoon, count me in. 1079 01:04:56,220 --> 01:04:57,220 There you go. 1080 01:04:57,220 --> 01:04:59,220 Gary, are you saving your opinion for last? 1081 01:04:59,220 --> 01:05:03,220 Yeah, I think I'll give it like three, maybe three plus. 1082 01:05:03,220 --> 01:05:07,220 It's the same thing. Like it's it's at second most rate. 1083 01:05:07,220 --> 01:05:11,220 It is fun. I don't hate this movie. 1084 01:05:11,220 --> 01:05:13,220 But yeah, it's just kind of forgettable. 1085 01:05:13,220 --> 01:05:16,220 I don't know if I like it. Maybe I'd watch it again on TV. 1086 01:05:16,220 --> 01:05:20,220 I don't even know. I don't have immediate plans to. 1087 01:05:20,220 --> 01:05:22,220 Yeah, it's weird because I feel that. 1088 01:05:22,220 --> 01:05:28,220 But I also feel like I'll watch the next one in this American legendary. 1089 01:05:28,220 --> 01:05:30,220 I'll be I'll be looking forward to the next one. 1090 01:05:30,220 --> 01:05:34,220 They have an idea for in a while. 1091 01:05:34,220 --> 01:05:37,220 Yeah, I think I'm closer to you, Gary. 1092 01:05:37,220 --> 01:05:40,220 I think I'm like the high end of the second lowest rating, 1093 01:05:40,220 --> 01:05:47,220 teetering slightly into the second highest rating to minus maybe even something. 1094 01:05:47,220 --> 01:05:49,220 Yeah, there's something there's something in the middle there. 1095 01:05:49,220 --> 01:05:53,220 I feel like, yes, there's a lot to criticize for this movie. 1096 01:05:53,220 --> 01:05:57,220 But I think you also have to take it for what it is a little bit. 1097 01:05:57,220 --> 01:06:03,220 Too, and realize that they're they're trying to change the game a little bit here with these Kong and Godzilla movies. 1098 01:06:03,220 --> 01:06:09,220 And I think this might be we might find this might be a blueprint for what is to come in this genre. 1099 01:06:09,220 --> 01:06:14,220 And I think is it I read recently that it is now the highest grossing Godzilla film of all time. 1100 01:06:14,220 --> 01:06:19,220 So the dollars are speaking for themselves in this one right now and that people are seeing it. 1101 01:06:19,220 --> 01:06:23,220 But there's they didn't quite hit the nail on the head. 1102 01:06:23,220 --> 01:06:25,220 And it could have been baked a little later. 1103 01:06:25,220 --> 01:06:28,220 Had it been that this could have been a really a really classic movie. 1104 01:06:28,220 --> 01:06:31,220 I love that. That's perfect to end on. 1105 01:06:31,220 --> 01:06:37,220 Thank you, guys. It's really been a treat to we've never had this many guests on the show before. 1106 01:06:37,220 --> 01:06:40,220 Or maybe we have. But this is this is a rare treat. 1107 01:06:40,220 --> 01:06:43,220 So excellent. I think we did a really good job. 1108 01:06:43,220 --> 01:06:47,220 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What season of your podcast are you in now? 1109 01:06:47,220 --> 01:06:52,220 Four. We've been going three years. 1110 01:06:52,220 --> 01:06:55,220 This is the fourth season. 1111 01:06:55,220 --> 01:07:03,220 So, yeah, next time on Camp Kaiju, we'll see you for King Kong versus Godzilla and another new bit that we're doing. 1112 01:07:03,220 --> 01:07:08,220 We're doing some trivia with a friend. Her name is Naomi Osborne. 1113 01:07:08,220 --> 01:07:14,220 She hosts movie trivia on the first Mondays of every month in Minneapolis. 1114 01:07:14,220 --> 01:07:19,220 And I connected with her and was like, Hey, do you want to do something with our show? 1115 01:07:19,220 --> 01:07:27,220 So our first installment of trivia will be on that King Kong versus Godzilla. 1116 01:07:27,220 --> 01:07:30,220 Sweet. Yeah. So stay tuned. 1117 01:07:30,220 --> 01:07:34,220 Thank you all for hanging out. Buy some merch. Leave us a rating and review wherever you listen. 1118 01:07:34,220 --> 01:07:36,220 You can also share this podcast with a friend. 1119 01:07:36,220 --> 01:07:43,220 Send us listener comments at campkaiju.gmail.com, Facebook, Instagram, links all in the bio. 1120 01:07:43,220 --> 01:07:46,220 If you'd like to be a featured voice on the show, leave a voicemail. 1121 01:07:46,220 --> 01:07:50,220 That number is also in the bio telling us about your favorite monster movies. 1122 01:07:50,220 --> 01:07:53,220 What you think about Godzilla and Kong, the new empire. 1123 01:07:53,220 --> 01:07:56,220 Is that the campiest thing about this movie? 1124 01:07:56,220 --> 01:08:00,220 Please check out our website, CampKaijuMovieReviews.com. 1125 01:08:00,220 --> 01:08:07,220 Camp Kaiju is recorded in Minneapolis, St. Paul with theme music by Terrence Jackson, Menia's mailbox by Ben Cook Feltz. 1126 01:08:07,220 --> 01:08:12,220 Camp Kaiju is sponsored by Zach Linder and the Zach Pack powered by Coldwell Banker Realty, 1127 01:08:12,220 --> 01:08:17,220 your source for real estate, home rehab, fixing and flipping for investor clients and residential buyers. 1128 01:08:17,220 --> 01:08:20,220 Reach out to the Zach Pack today for real estate services. 1129 01:08:20,220 --> 01:08:27,220 Follow the Zach Pack on social media and contact the Zach Pack for investment opportunities. 1130 01:08:27,220 --> 01:08:30,220 Links in the bio. 1131 01:08:30,220 --> 01:08:32,220 And we out. 1132 01:08:32,220 --> 01:08:33,220 Nice. 1133 01:08:33,220 --> 01:08:34,220 All right. 1134 01:08:34,220 --> 01:08:37,220 Was the new empire part of the title of this movie too? 1135 01:08:37,220 --> 01:08:38,220 Yeah. 1136 01:08:38,220 --> 01:08:41,220 Completely forgot that. 1137 01:08:41,220 --> 01:08:44,220 I don't know. 1138 01:08:44,220 --> 01:08:46,220 It sounds like such a larger than life title. 1139 01:08:46,220 --> 01:08:51,220 I mean, I guess maybe the scar king is part of like the new one. 1140 01:08:51,220 --> 01:08:53,220 Like, that's the empire. 1141 01:08:53,220 --> 01:08:56,220 Oh, OK. Yeah, I guess. Yeah. 1142 01:08:56,220 --> 01:08:59,220 Sure. 1143 01:08:59,220 --> 01:09:00,220 A world without pyramids. 1144 01:09:00,220 --> 01:09:02,220 Maybe that's the new empire. 1145 01:09:02,220 --> 01:09:04,220 That should have been the subtitle. 1146 01:09:04,220 --> 01:09:08,220 Godzilla. 1147 01:09:08,220 --> 01:09:11,220 I love it. 1148 01:09:11,220 --> 01:09:13,220 Amazing. 1149 01:09:13,220 --> 01:09:15,220 All right. Good stuff, guys. 1150 01:09:15,220 --> 01:09:21,220 This was fun. 1151 01:09:21,220 --> 01:09:25,220 Surprise. Super secret hidden special content coming your way. 1152 01:09:25,220 --> 01:09:29,220 Thanks, everybody, for listening to Godzilla Kong, the new empire. 1153 01:09:29,220 --> 01:09:33,220 We hope you had as much fun listening to it as we did recording it. 1154 01:09:33,220 --> 01:09:38,220 What we're going to share with you now for the last five minutes is some G Fest content. 1155 01:09:38,220 --> 01:09:46,220 So for those of you don't know, G Fest is the largest Godzilla Kaiju festival convention, at least in the United States. 1156 01:09:46,220 --> 01:09:54,220 It happens every July in Chicago, and it is underway this weekend, July 13th and 14th. 1157 01:09:54,220 --> 01:09:57,220 So for those of you there listening, that's awesome. 1158 01:09:57,220 --> 01:09:59,220 I am so jealous. 1159 01:09:59,220 --> 01:10:01,220 I hope you have a blast. 1160 01:10:01,220 --> 01:10:09,220 And while Matt and I can't make it this year, we were there two years ago, and we're going to share some of our experiences with you. 1161 01:10:09,220 --> 01:10:16,220 And that includes a panel that the actress Tomoko Ai sat on. 1162 01:10:16,220 --> 01:10:19,220 She was the lead actress in Terror of Mecha Godzilla. 1163 01:10:19,220 --> 01:10:21,220 She played the cyborg. 1164 01:10:21,220 --> 01:10:25,220 Anyways, she gets to talk about working with Ashiro Honda on that film. 1165 01:10:25,220 --> 01:10:28,220 So it's a real gem, a real treat to hear from her. 1166 01:10:28,220 --> 01:10:33,220 You'll also hear from me just kind of nerding out on the merch floor, running into cosplayers. 1167 01:10:33,220 --> 01:10:35,220 It's a good time. 1168 01:10:35,220 --> 01:10:38,220 If you haven't been to G Fest, I couldn't recommend it more. 1169 01:10:38,220 --> 01:10:42,220 So we'll see you there next year without a doubt. 1170 01:10:42,220 --> 01:10:45,220 Thanks, everybody. Until next time, stay campy. 1171 01:10:48,220 --> 01:10:50,220 Camp Kaiju's here, everybody. 1172 01:10:50,220 --> 01:10:52,220 I just got my registration. 1173 01:10:52,220 --> 01:10:54,220 Trying to find Matt Levine. 1174 01:10:54,220 --> 01:10:56,220 He got here before me. 1175 01:10:56,220 --> 01:10:59,220 How dare he? 1176 01:10:59,220 --> 01:11:04,220 How dare he be enjoying this festival two full hours before me? 1177 01:11:04,220 --> 01:11:06,220 What are you going to do? 1178 01:11:06,220 --> 01:11:09,220 Anyways, I have seen one Ultraman. 1179 01:11:09,220 --> 01:11:11,220 I have seen one Anguirus. 1180 01:11:11,220 --> 01:11:13,220 I have seen one Godzilla. 1181 01:11:13,220 --> 01:11:16,220 And I am sure more to come. 1182 01:11:16,220 --> 01:11:19,220 So, yeah. 1183 01:11:19,220 --> 01:11:47,220 Thanks for hanging out, everybody. 1184 01:11:47,220 --> 01:11:49,220 There he is. 1185 01:11:49,220 --> 01:11:51,220 How's it going, Vincent? 1186 01:11:51,220 --> 01:11:52,220 Good to see you. 1187 01:11:52,220 --> 01:11:53,220 How was the drive? 1188 01:11:53,220 --> 01:11:54,220 Good. Say hi to everybody. 1189 01:11:54,220 --> 01:11:56,220 Hey, it's Matt. We're here at G Fest. 1190 01:11:56,220 --> 01:11:57,220 We found him. 1191 01:11:57,220 --> 01:11:59,220 Indeed. Having a grand old time here. 1192 01:11:59,220 --> 01:12:00,220 Yeah. 1193 01:12:00,220 --> 01:12:03,220 Everybody, Camp Kaiju on the vendor floor at G Fest. 1194 01:12:03,220 --> 01:12:05,220 This is it. 1195 01:12:05,220 --> 01:12:06,220 This is Ground Zero. 1196 01:12:06,220 --> 01:12:09,220 This is amazing for all monster lovers, not just Kaiju. 1197 01:12:09,220 --> 01:12:10,220 Yeah, it's a great place. 1198 01:12:10,220 --> 01:12:12,220 It's a wonderful place to be. 1199 01:12:12,220 --> 01:12:14,220 It's a wonderful place to be. 1200 01:12:14,220 --> 01:12:16,220 I've never been to one. 1201 01:12:16,220 --> 01:12:17,220 It's such a beautiful place. 1202 01:12:17,220 --> 01:12:19,220 I've never been to one. 1203 01:12:19,220 --> 01:12:21,220 You're welcome. 1204 01:12:21,220 --> 01:12:22,220 You're welcome. 1205 01:12:22,220 --> 01:12:23,220 There you go. 1206 01:12:23,220 --> 01:12:25,220 I'm going to go down. 1207 01:12:25,220 --> 01:12:29,220 Amazing for all monster lovers, not just Kaiju. 1208 01:12:29,220 --> 01:12:31,220 Yeah, take a look around. 1209 01:12:31,220 --> 01:12:32,220 Let's see. 1210 01:12:32,220 --> 01:12:34,220 We got some cool toys. 1211 01:12:34,220 --> 01:12:35,220 So, Fubi. 1212 01:12:35,220 --> 01:12:36,220 Book cart. 1213 01:12:36,220 --> 01:12:44,220 A lot of artists, independent artists, independent comic book artists, illustrators, sketch artists. 1214 01:12:44,220 --> 01:12:47,220 A lot of t-shirt vendors. 1215 01:12:47,220 --> 01:12:50,220 Can't get this, you can only get this though at Camp Kaiju. 1216 01:12:50,220 --> 01:12:55,220 But, I'm seeing a lot of rad designs. 1217 01:12:55,220 --> 01:12:58,220 Gorgos, Jet Jaguars, Kamen Rider. 1218 01:12:58,220 --> 01:13:01,220 All sorts of cool stuff like that. 1219 01:13:01,220 --> 01:13:06,220 Lots of vintage movie posters, vintage VHS. 1220 01:13:06,220 --> 01:13:09,220 A lot of stuff like that. 1221 01:13:09,220 --> 01:13:12,220 Which personally is where I'm gravitating to right now. 1222 01:13:12,220 --> 01:13:18,220 Would love to find some sort of vintage memorabilia. 1223 01:13:18,220 --> 01:13:20,220 Antiques. 1224 01:13:20,220 --> 01:13:25,220 Yeah, the whole thing is kind of like a flea market type atmosphere. 1225 01:13:25,220 --> 01:13:26,220 But it's awesome. 1226 01:13:26,220 --> 01:13:27,220 Check this out. 1227 01:13:27,220 --> 01:13:29,220 Blood of Dracula. 1228 01:13:29,220 --> 01:13:31,220 Have that in your bedroom. 1229 01:13:31,220 --> 01:13:33,220 That'd be pretty sick. 1230 01:13:33,220 --> 01:13:36,220 Yeah, I'm just in heaven right now, honestly. 1231 01:13:36,220 --> 01:13:39,220 Kaiju Bliss. 1232 01:13:39,220 --> 01:13:41,220 Alright, thanks everybody. 1233 01:13:41,220 --> 01:13:48,220 Stay campy. 1234 01:14:12,220 --> 01:14:16,220 So normally, you know, she was always smiling. 1235 01:14:16,220 --> 01:14:20,220 But for this fall, she was totally, I literally must not smile. 1236 01:14:20,220 --> 01:14:24,220 She showed no emotion at all. 1237 01:14:24,220 --> 01:14:27,220 Of course, she is like, well it's supposed to be a love story. 1238 01:14:27,220 --> 01:14:31,220 How is it a love story if I never show any emotion at all? 1239 01:14:31,220 --> 01:14:36,220 But you know, she called it the direction she was giving her butt shots. 1240 01:14:36,220 --> 01:14:46,220 Please don't worry, even if you're a cyborg, get sure I still love you. 1241 01:15:06,220 --> 01:15:11,220 Well, it's not related to the shooting at all. 1242 01:15:11,220 --> 01:15:16,220 When I was shooting Ultraman Zero, I was like a group. 1243 01:15:16,220 --> 01:15:21,220 The staff would scold me, scold me, and stuff like that. 1244 01:15:21,220 --> 01:15:26,220 But when I went to the studio, they had a big room. 1245 01:15:26,220 --> 01:15:32,220 And the actress was like, oh, this is the actress? 1246 01:15:32,220 --> 01:15:36,220 And I was like, oh, I didn't know that. 1247 01:15:36,220 --> 01:15:40,220 I was like, is this really okay? 1248 01:15:40,220 --> 01:15:43,220 I had this feeling. 1249 01:15:43,220 --> 01:15:47,220 So first of all, during the filming for Terror, I'll remind you guys a little bit. 1250 01:15:47,220 --> 01:15:51,220 She really didn't interact with much of the other cast members at all. 1251 01:15:51,220 --> 01:15:56,220 Sasaki thought basically never spoke to her when it wasn't necessary. 1252 01:15:56,220 --> 01:15:59,220 So it was a little bit strange maybe. 1253 01:15:59,220 --> 01:16:02,220 The father character, they thought he'd be a son. 1254 01:16:02,220 --> 01:16:07,220 He'd always kind of look out for her and besides to her, so that was great. 1255 01:16:07,220 --> 01:16:11,220 But just kind of going back to the difference between Ultraman Leia and Terror, 1256 01:16:11,220 --> 01:16:15,220 I think that's sort of back during the time of Ultraman Leia, 1257 01:16:15,220 --> 01:16:21,220 they had social groups among the staff, or among the cast, 1258 01:16:21,220 --> 01:16:25,220 and they all kind of get together, get scolded by the staff, various other things. 1259 01:16:25,220 --> 01:16:31,220 But then going to Toho, it was this really big studio, and she was really impressed. 1260 01:16:31,220 --> 01:16:35,220 And that was kind of the first time she felt like she was a real actress. 1261 01:16:35,220 --> 01:17:03,220 Godzilla! Godzilla! Godzilla! Godzilla!