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motherhood where sleep is a rumor and laundry

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is eternal and somehow we're supposed to be raising

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tiny humans through it all we're here to laugh

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at the chaos cry when necessary and remind you

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that none of us actually know what we're doing

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this is no manual a mom cast your mom friend

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group chat but with microphones welcome back

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to no manual mom cast Hi, everyone. Welcome back.

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We are super stoked to be recording again after

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we took the month of July off. This is like the

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first time. We saw each other at church real

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quick. Yeah, really briefly. But this is the

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first time we've actually seen each other. Yeah,

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so we've actually been chatting for the last

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45 minutes, just catching up. And then we're

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like, maybe we should hit record because we could

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talk about all this on the podcast and why not?

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But really like this episode is going to be kind

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of just a summer recap. What have we been up

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to the past month? So that's what we were talking

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about. So we were like, let's record and then

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we can talk about those things. on mic yeah um

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but before we hop in do we want to share our

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mom moments sure i can get i can go first so

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zeta is almost 18 months now that's crazy it's

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crazy and she's experiencing the thing that every

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woman has experienced which is all of her brother's

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clothes have pockets And the majority of her

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clothes do not have pockets. Oh, what a sad thing.

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So you'll like put pants on her and she'll like

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check like pockets. Oh. Pockets. And of course,

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most of them don't. Like she has a couple pairs

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of shorts that have pockets. That's so annoying.

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Why does it not? Why do they not? And then she

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has a few dresses that have pockets. And she

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loves to put things in her pockets when she has

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them. That's so cute. But like we've all been

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there. that's so true girls pants don't have

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pockets or they don't have or they're like the

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teeny tiniest pockets and you're like my phone

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can't even fit like i could put a penny in there

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and that's it yeah but it's just so funny because

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like this is such a universal girl experience

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but she's 18 months old and i was not expecting

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it like oh yeah but yeah just like she's always

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like pockets pockets and checking so jealous

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of lloyd's pockets lloyd of course has pockets

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that he can fit like four cars in you know, his

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pants are bigger, but it's just, that's so cute.

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Oh my gosh. How cute. Okay. Mine. Um, so my mom

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moment is it actually, I was not there for it,

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but it's a funny enough story that I feel like

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I could share cause it was Michael's experience.

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So this actually happened yesterday. And I had

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to go into work early. We had our childcare coming

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like an hour after I left. And so Michael got

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the kids ready for her to come over. And so he

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said he put on a show for the boys while he made

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breakfast. And he was like, Cruz was really quiet.

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And so he's like, why is Cruz so quiet? And he

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like goes back into the living room and Cruz

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is just sitting on the rug in the living room,

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butt naked. just watching whatever show was on

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and his diaper was taken off and just like thrown

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in front of him. Perfect. And I was like, Oh

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no. One of my biggest fears is to have a child

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that takes their diaper off of themselves. Yeah.

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And I'm like, thank God it wasn't poopy. But

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Michael said he just like. Walked in there and

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Cruz is just like the biggest smile on his face.

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So happy. Just watching his show. And yeah. So

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I thought that was funny enough to share. Well,

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yeah, we are super excited to kind of be back

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in a new rhythm of recording again. Took the

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month of July off, which I think was probably

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good for both of us. Yeah. I mean, part of it

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was just like. When we were looking logistically,

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we were like, we literally, we had 4th of July

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and we were both busy for that. And then you

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left almost immediately. And then two days after

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you got home, I had to go out of town. And so

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it's just like logistically. We just didn't know

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when we would record. And then we're like, you

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know, it's probably good to take a little bit

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of a break. Yeah. At least for me, the month

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of July was like a really big family month. But

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yeah, tell me about kind of your last month.

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maybe a month and a half. Like I'm trying to

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think of the last time we recorded, it was probably

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mid June. Yeah. So it's, but you, you know, it's

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been so hot here, which has been really tough

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for like, what are we supposed to do during the,

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the heat of the day? Yeah. Well, and even there

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are nights where it's like, it's still 90 at

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like 9 PM. Yep. So like the kids are already

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in bed and we still can't just like go outside

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and sit outside and enjoy. So it's been really

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hot, which is. really tough and a special kind

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of like misery when you have little kids because

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everyone's cooped up everyone wants to go outside

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but it's too hot to go outside and yeah um and

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so that's been just like a challenge like what

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are we supposed to do yeah um we've been really

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blessed and thankful because my brother -in -law

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and sister -in -law live in the same neighborhood

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as our friends and they all have this so they

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have a neighborhood pool so we have two families

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in the same neighborhood with the same neighborhood

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pool and most weekends one if not both of them

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are like hey we're going to the pool at this

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time if you want to show up just let us know

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yeah we'll like unlock the gate so that's been

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like a huge blessing because we don't have a

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neighborhood pool do you feel comfortable to

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like bring the kids to the pool by yourself no

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yeah so yeah we um at this point it's like both

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of us have to be there. Um, we're hoping we can

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get Lloyd to start learning swimming. Honestly,

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I feel like Zeta is going to learn first partially

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because like, so like this pool that we're, we've

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gone to the most, it has like kind of levels.

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So there's, there's like the six inch step and

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then there's the like one foot step and then

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there's the like three foot step and then it

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goes deeper or whatever. So the like. one footstep,

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she can pretty much walk around, like, her head's

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a little bit above water. But she's fine. But

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she'll just, like, walk into the deep end. And

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we're like, girl, you can't do that to us. She's

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your fearless child. Yes, we're like, we might

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actually have to teach her to swim first. Yeah.

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Because Lloyd isn't quite that adventurous. But,

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yeah, we do want to get them both swimming because,

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yeah, neither of us are, like. super comfortable

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going by ourselves no same i i don't think i

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could do it i mean it's a little bit different

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when we have like other adults around too yes

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but still i'm like i don't want to expect another

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parent to be watching my kids so yeah we're gonna

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like assume that no one else is watching our

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kids and it's just us yeah yeah so that's one

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thing we've been kind of doing a lot i guess

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or most weekends yeah and that's just like kind

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of surviving the heat yeah oh my gosh lloyd turned

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three which was very exciting crazy how how are

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they already that big i don't know and he's like

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speaking full sentences and speaking in first

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person and i feel like his language in particular

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and just a bunch of developmental things just

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like overnight in the past month have taken off

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which is crazy yeah yeah and then well i mean

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we'll get there but i went on a business trip

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so i was away from the whole family for it's

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only like three nights it wasn't super long but

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how was that was that like were you were you

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looking forward to it were you like no not no

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yeah it was annoying so I already didn't want

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to go. And, like, there was a few reasons. One

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is this training that I had to do. I was originally

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supposed to do last summer, and they had it in

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Denver. But I couldn't because Zeta wasn't taking

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a bottle. That's right. I can't be away from

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her for eight hours if she's not taking a bottle.

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Everyone who falls under like this certain umbrella

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within our company has to take this training.

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So they have like these makeup options or like

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also for new employees. So I went to this one,

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which was in Georgia. So instead of being in

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Denver and being able to sleep in my own bed

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at night, I had to like fly to Georgia and get

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a hotel and all of that. And then the other thing

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is like the umbrella in which my team falls under

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is like technically sales, even though we don't

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do sales at all. And so this training is really

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more for like people who are in like sales roles

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or customer retention roles. Okay. Which is not

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what my job is. So it's one of these annoying

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things where I'm like, I understand the value

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of this training. However, it doesn't apply to

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my job at all. So yeah, it didn't feel like you

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really needed to be there. Right. It feels kind

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of useless for me. And like, I have no goals

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of getting into sales or anything like that.

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So, you know. It would be different if I felt

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that way. Do you like know, did you know other

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people there or were you kind of like? I knew

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one other person. Okay. Yeah. So there's one

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person on my team who she also hasn't been able

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to go previously. So we were able to go at the

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same time. Yeah. Which was nice. So you got to

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hang out with her kind of. Yeah. Yeah. And then

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the trip itself, like the first day I literally

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had a breakdown because it was one of those things

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where we're like. All the things that happened,

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if, like, that was the only thing, it would be

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like, wow, that was annoying. Okay. But it was,

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like, all the things, right? So the company,

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like, suggested a couple hotels to book, and

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I had decided on one. They suggested a Hilton,

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so I was like, okay, I can do that. But there

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are two Hiltons on the same road. within a mile

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of each other oh no so i booked the wrong one

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which i did not realize until i was like trying

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to check in and they were like we don't have

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your reservation like do you have your confirmation

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i showed them they're like oh you're actually

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at the one down the street it's like okay dang

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it so i like go of course it's like 8 30 at night

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i've been traveling all day like finally get

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to the my like actual hotel of course it's like

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the less nice one which like it was fine it was

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clean it was whatever but very disappointing

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but still yeah especially to go from like the

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nice like having been in the lobby of the nice

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one yeah so then I like got to my hotel they

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like get checked in whatever go to my room and

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the key card doesn't work and I like try like

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three times Or probably more than that. So I,

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like, go back down to the lobby. Like, hey, my

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card isn't working. So she, like, resets it.

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And then she gives it back to me. And I did what

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every other person who's ever checked into a

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hotel does. Which is I have my phone in my hand.

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And I put the card on the back of my phone. And

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she goes, oh, that demagnetizes it. And I'm like,

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I'm sorry. I've been checking into hotels for

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over a decade with smartphones. I've never had

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my phone demagnetize a card. What is happening

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here? So I was like, okay. So she, like, redoes

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it again. I, like, put. You're like, let me hold

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my phone and my card. Yeah, put something in

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the suitcase so that. And then I finally got

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up to my room. The Wi -Fi wouldn't connect. My

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concealer exploded in my toiletries bag. It was

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just like all these things that like. You're

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like, you know what? I'm packing it up. I'm going

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home. I don't even really care. So yeah, it was

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just like one of those things where it was like,

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if any one of those things happened, you'd just

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be like. whatever like this is super annoying

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and frustrating but like i can get over it but

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then to have like all of those happen within

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like 45 minutes just not having it yeah so the

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start was not great a little rocky and then thankfully

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like yeah the training was really like irrelevant

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to my job but at least like it was fine it wasn't

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as boring as i expected for corporate training

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and then the lady who was running it was also

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very good at like reading the room and being

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like oh people are falling asleep so like it's

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break time and like let's try to like liven things

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up or you have to do like a group project that

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i can give you two minutes for but actually i

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can give you 10 minutes more and like that was

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it like a hundred people there was like maybe

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30 oh okay it was really tiny yeah yeah so then

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that was there was two days of that And then

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the second day we got done early. So I was able

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to just like go back to my hotel room and like

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I read my book and chilled out. Some self -care.

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Yeah. So that was kind of nice to just like.

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Yeah, that is nice. I mean, I kind of would have

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rather. that I knew I would be done that early

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and could have gotten home that night yeah and

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I like even thought about switching my flight

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but then it was one of those things where I was

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like we already have all the logistics planned

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for like someone being with the kids Thursday

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morning so Stuart can pick me up versus like

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trying to figure that out on Thursday night or

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the night before yeah from there like got home

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and then there's just been like this adjustment

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of yeah I was gone so like all the like aftermath

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of like mom being gone is just a thing right

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where it's like the routine like as much as it

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doesn't change it changes but it also did change

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a lot for them which is part of it yeah so yeah

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because since stewart still had to work and he

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has to get to work at like 6 a .m instead of

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trying to get them up early or have someone come

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to our house early Him and the kids just stayed

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with his parents. So that way he could just leave

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for work. They could sleep as late as they needed

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to. And they would just be at G -Mon Op Op's

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house. Yeah. So it was like pretty disrupted.

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Yeah. But yeah, I mean, it was like, this is

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the thing that made the most sense. No matter

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what, just like me being gone, I was like, I

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know that there's going to be. There's going

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to be an adjustment when you get back. This release

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of like, kids have that where it's like. Yeah.

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It's like they have build up for mom and then

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they let it all go when they. Yeah. When you

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get back. So that's so true. So it's been, it's

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been a journey this last week. Cause I was last,

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that was last week. Yeah. I got back a week ago

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yesterday. So yeah, this whole week has just

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been kind of like adjusting back to normal. Yeah.

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And we also have to remember that you're almost

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20 weeks pregnant too. So on top of that, there's

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all just. Yeah. And then also with like Lloyd,

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we did, he, his birthday was, right before i

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left like a couple days before i left and so

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we like stupidly like in retrospect of course

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hindsight's always 2020 but in retrospect i'm

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like we should have waited to make all these

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big changes till after i got back so we're like

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got it we're gonna take the side off his crib

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and give him a big kick to bed we're gonna stop

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doing diapers at night we're gonna take away

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his elephant lovey like we had a bunch of big

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changes and then i left two days later Got it.

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Which was a terrible idea. So we had just planned

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like, oh, we're going to do the like third birthday.

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We're going to make some like kind of, you know,

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changes that we do need to make for him. Yeah.

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And then just like not thinking that this trip

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was the next week. So we like made these changes

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and then it's like, okay, bye. So I think that's

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been really rough too. Yeah. Yeah. That's kind

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of like hard to foresee. But also if you push

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it off, I mean, there's all, it's one of those

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things where it's like. Well, there's never a

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great time to make these changes. Yeah. But you

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have to. You can't be in a crib until he's 20.

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Yeah, right. I'm about to put my toddler back

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in a crib is what I'm deciding. Oh, my gosh.

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Lloyd keeps – he says he wants to sleep in Zeta's

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bed because he wants – he's like, I don't want

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a big kid bed. What did you say to me the other

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day that he said, I don't want to be a big kid

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or something like that? Yeah, he's told me a

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couple times, I don't want to be a big kid. You're

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like, I don't want you to be a big kid either.

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I get it, buddy. Growing up is really hard. Yeah.

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Yeah. That's so cute. We talk about the things

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that make him feel like a little kid. What makes

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you feel like a little kid? That's cute. Mom

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snuggles. Okay. We'll do lots of mom snuggles

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or something like that. You can snuggle mom till

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you're 20. That's fine. That's cute. So yeah,

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we've had like, it's been a weird month because

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it's simultaneously been like nothing and everything,

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you know? Yeah. Yep. No, I feel that our July

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has felt extremely chaotic and not like in a

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bad way or anything like that. I feel like like

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end of June, we were kind of like, really finalizing

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like potty training, which like we still have

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for the most part, like we have really good days.

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Cole is still struggling with pooping on the

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potty. And so like he will just like hold it

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until he like gets a diaper on for napper. Which

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I know is a really common thing. It's a very

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common thing I've been finding out. But then

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he'll have like moments where he's like, I have

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to go potty. And I'm like, oh, do you have to?

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pee or poop and i'll just say poop and i'm like

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all right cool and i try not to make a huge deal

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out of it like i we do make a big deal out of

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it but not like a big deal that i'm like scaring

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him out of it because i've done that before where

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i'm like i'm like oh let's go go let's go let's

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go and he's like i don't want to go i feel like

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that would make it harder though if like sometimes

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he's like got it and other times he's not because

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yes if it was consistently one way then you're

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like okay i know what we need to work on yeah

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so i feel like like he hasn't had a p accident

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in probably two months that's great yeah but

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We're still doing diapers for nap time and night

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time. So he'll wake up like with a wet diaper

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at night for sure. He wakes up with a wet diaper.

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Nap, it's like 50 -50. But pooping is the thing

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that has been hard for us to figure out. And

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I'm like, you know what? I think it's just going

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to come with time. I don't think there's like

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a ton I need to be doing necessarily to like.

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force it because i'm not i don't want to force

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him to like right poop one of it's happening

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happening sometimes too yeah it's like he's getting

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he's he's understanding and again if it was like

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never then there might be like oh something needs

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to change yeah sometimes then i feel like it's

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just gonna come with time yep yep so that was

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kind of like end of june and then fourth of july

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we we usually are in california for fourth of

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july but this time with our trip out there the

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timing didn't work out for us to be out there

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for fourth of july so we were here for fourth

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of july and we went to our community pool which

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we'd never been there before and it was super

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fun we ended up buying like a punch card so we

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could go back nice which i'm like we live in

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a hoa it's kind of annoying we have to pay to

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go to our community pool yeah but it's like four

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bucks or something like that it's not that big

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of a deal but still annoying so we bought a punch

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card because we're like okay we're gonna come

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back we actually have plans to go back this afternoon

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nice and the boys had a lot of fun and then we

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just decided we at fourth of july was on a saturday

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so we had church that night so we had to go to

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work and then we had decided not to do fireworks

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because we were like we didn't want to mess too

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much with bedtime and then also we were like

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I think that Cruz is going to hate fireworks.

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And so I'm like, we're going to get stuck at,

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like, some fireworks show. And, like, there's

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a bajillion cars. He's going to scream his head

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off. Colt's going to be over, like, everyone's

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overtired. Like, fireworks weren't even going

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to be until, like, 930 at night anyways. Yeah.

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And so we ended up, like, going. To bed at a

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decent time. But then the fireworks were so loud

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around our house. Like in Colorado, people just

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like have their own firework shows. Yeah. Like

00:20:01.930 --> 00:20:03.849
even though it's not. It's not legal. It's not

00:20:03.849 --> 00:20:06.990
legal. People do. Like down the street, there

00:20:06.990 --> 00:20:10.220
was like one. house that just was like yeah lighting

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yeah our neighborhood we were really lucky we

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didn't get a lot no i feel like last year was

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bad but this year either i just slept through

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them all yeah or that's great ours sounded it

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sounded like a war zone out there and so colt

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could not fall asleep cruz was like dead to the

00:20:25.779 --> 00:20:28.519
world which is great i'm so glad he slept through

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it all but um yeah colt could not fall asleep

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and was just really restless it was like I mean,

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even with a sound machine up, it was still pretty

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loud. Well, and it's hard too because like it's

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not consistent. Exactly. It's like randomly a

00:20:43.109 --> 00:20:45.809
loud boom. Yeah. And it's like it could be two

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seconds or it could be. 10 minutes before, you

00:20:48.029 --> 00:20:50.349
know, between the next ones, which is part of

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what makes it really hard is sleeping through,

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right? Where it's like, if it was consistently

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loud, then you can kind of fall asleep through

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it. Definitely. And so we ended up just taking

00:21:00.430 --> 00:21:03.410
him out of his bed because we realized from our

00:21:03.410 --> 00:21:06.190
back patio, you could see the Broomfield, like

00:21:06.190 --> 00:21:10.069
one of the firework shows, like perfectly. The

00:21:10.069 --> 00:21:12.049
one we were actually going to drive to, we could

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see from our back patio, which we didn't know

00:21:14.269 --> 00:21:17.650
that. And so we were like, you know what? Let's

00:21:17.650 --> 00:21:19.829
just make some memories here. And then so we

00:21:19.829 --> 00:21:21.789
pulled him out of bed and watched the fireworks

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show. He ended up not going to sleep till like

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11 o 'clock, which was pretty brutal. But, you

00:21:27.769 --> 00:21:30.650
know, it's worth it for those memories. So he

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still talks about it. And then, yeah, we ended

00:21:33.990 --> 00:21:36.789
up leaving for our trip out to California. And

00:21:36.789 --> 00:21:39.769
we were out there for like nine days total. Yeah,

00:21:39.769 --> 00:21:41.569
you were out for a while. Yeah. And so the first.

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Like two days, we stayed with Michael's aunt

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in Sacramento and hung out with like his side

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of the family, tried to see a couple of our friends,

00:21:51.789 --> 00:21:56.730
saw my dad. And then we went on like a, we call

00:21:56.730 --> 00:21:59.269
it a camping trip. It's not really camping. We

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go to this place called Gray Eagle, which is

00:22:01.849 --> 00:22:04.750
like this really small town in kind of the woods,

00:22:04.789 --> 00:22:09.539
like near Lake Tahoe. Like an hour west of Lake

00:22:09.539 --> 00:22:11.579
Tahoe, I think. We stay in like these little

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tiny cabins. It's technically a resort is what

00:22:13.940 --> 00:22:17.140
it's called. Okay. It's not like your normal

00:22:17.140 --> 00:22:19.079
resort, what you're thinking. It's literally

00:22:19.079 --> 00:22:23.099
like little tiny log cabins in the woods. Yeah.

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And there's like 20 of them. I feel like we have

00:22:24.519 --> 00:22:27.180
like a couple of those in the mountains. Yeah.

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They call it a resort and they might have like.

00:22:30.490 --> 00:22:33.509
essential cabin yes where you can like buy supplies

00:22:33.509 --> 00:22:36.410
but that's so like yeah they have like a pool

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and a hot tub like a little snack shack and then

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they have like a their like lobby which is like

00:22:42.869 --> 00:22:47.490
one tv and they have like hotels with tvs but

00:22:47.490 --> 00:22:49.809
we stay in the cabins it doesn't have tv their

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new thing is they have ac in them which is like

00:22:52.329 --> 00:22:56.490
ideal actually sounds a lot like uh the ymca

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of the rockies yes probably like smaller scale

00:22:59.240 --> 00:23:02.660
it's yes much way smaller scale but kind of like

00:23:02.660 --> 00:23:06.759
that vibe so the whole week we're there for like

00:23:06.759 --> 00:23:11.220
we were there for six nights and we um the was

00:23:11.220 --> 00:23:13.140
it just the four of you or did you go with family

00:23:13.140 --> 00:23:16.960
yeah with my family so my mom my stepdad and

00:23:16.960 --> 00:23:19.099
then my three siblings were there with their

00:23:19.099 --> 00:23:21.660
families too so there and then my aunt was there

00:23:21.660 --> 00:23:24.940
oh my uncle was there with his daughter so there's

00:23:24.940 --> 00:23:29.359
probably 28 20 to 25 of us from our family, which

00:23:29.359 --> 00:23:31.220
is super fun. We all have like our own little

00:23:31.220 --> 00:23:33.559
cabins, which is also like we rent the majority

00:23:33.559 --> 00:23:36.980
of the cabins there, which is so great. It's

00:23:36.980 --> 00:23:40.259
very ideal. My stepdad has been going to this

00:23:40.259 --> 00:23:42.619
place since he was a little boy. So that's so

00:23:42.619 --> 00:23:44.839
fun. This was his like, I think he said like

00:23:44.839 --> 00:23:48.859
50 something year, like 51st year going to this

00:23:48.859 --> 00:23:51.359
place. And the only time he's missed a year is

00:23:51.359 --> 00:23:53.289
when he was in the army. I'm like, that's so

00:23:53.289 --> 00:23:56.450
cool. And love that like we are starting that

00:23:56.450 --> 00:24:00.269
tradition with our family. And so to us, it's

00:24:00.269 --> 00:24:02.710
like the best week of the year. And there's really

00:24:02.710 --> 00:24:05.390
no agenda other than just wake up every day.

00:24:05.589 --> 00:24:08.650
We eat lots of food. So breakfast is always a.

00:24:08.859 --> 00:24:11.700
Big breakfast. Usually lunch we're just snacking

00:24:11.700 --> 00:24:13.720
and then dinner. Do they serve breakfast or do

00:24:13.720 --> 00:24:16.480
you all make it so like family gets together?

00:24:16.559 --> 00:24:19.119
Yep. Yep. So breakfast everyone's kind of on

00:24:19.119 --> 00:24:21.619
their own for is what we've decided. And then

00:24:21.619 --> 00:24:24.809
usually my brother and. Brother's family and

00:24:24.809 --> 00:24:26.950
my family will do breakfast together. So we'll

00:24:26.950 --> 00:24:29.529
like trade off making. And he brings his Blackstone.

00:24:29.569 --> 00:24:31.730
Perfect. Which is great. So you just throw it

00:24:31.730 --> 00:24:34.289
all on the Blackstone, make huge breakfast every

00:24:34.289 --> 00:24:37.529
morning. And then for dinner, my stepdad usually,

00:24:37.630 --> 00:24:40.670
so he brings his Traeger, his smoker up. And

00:24:40.670 --> 00:24:43.529
so every night is kind of like a different meat.

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So like we'll do ribs one night, brisket one

00:24:47.710 --> 00:24:50.869
night. We did smash burgers on the Blackstone

00:24:50.869 --> 00:24:54.039
one night. just huge meals and then everyone

00:24:54.039 --> 00:24:57.920
contributes like a side of some sort and so i

00:24:57.920 --> 00:25:00.859
weighed myself after i had gained five pounds

00:25:00.859 --> 00:25:03.380
from this week i mean it sounds like it was all

00:25:03.380 --> 00:25:06.079
worth it was worth absolutely worth it and i

00:25:06.079 --> 00:25:09.000
expect that like i'm not holding back at all

00:25:09.000 --> 00:25:11.480
but yeah our day pretty much consists of like

00:25:11.480 --> 00:25:14.680
eating and swimming and that's kind of like what

00:25:14.680 --> 00:25:17.420
it looks like long naps the exact kind of summer

00:25:17.420 --> 00:25:19.880
day you want exactly i told stewart i have this

00:25:19.880 --> 00:25:22.559
craving for the experience of like You know,

00:25:22.640 --> 00:25:26.079
when you spend like a good chunk of the day,

00:25:26.079 --> 00:25:28.099
like outside at the pool, you get like really

00:25:28.099 --> 00:25:30.359
hot and sweaty, like probably like slightly somber.

00:25:30.599 --> 00:25:33.259
Then you go take a shower and take a nap in like

00:25:33.259 --> 00:25:37.460
an ice cold air conditioned room. That's so nice.

00:25:37.559 --> 00:25:39.339
That experience, I don't know how to explain

00:25:39.339 --> 00:25:43.059
it. I feel like it's just nostalgic. I think

00:25:43.059 --> 00:25:46.230
that's probably part of it. Yeah. I'm like, I.

00:25:46.670 --> 00:25:49.049
You just crave, your body is craving that. Like

00:25:49.049 --> 00:25:52.430
that exact experience. Yes. Yes. That's what

00:25:52.430 --> 00:25:55.089
like, you should just say one day, that's just

00:25:55.089 --> 00:25:57.750
what I want for this pregnancy. I just want to

00:25:57.750 --> 00:26:00.470
go float in a pool somewhere and then I want

00:26:00.470 --> 00:26:03.869
to take a nice shower and then. And cold nap.

00:26:04.049 --> 00:26:07.730
Yes. Oh, that does sound ideal. So I, I did take

00:26:07.730 --> 00:26:10.349
a couple of really good naps on this trip, which

00:26:10.349 --> 00:26:13.990
was just great. And it was usually with like

00:26:13.990 --> 00:26:17.799
one of my kids. which is fine but they both napped

00:26:17.799 --> 00:26:19.640
great there because they're like running around

00:26:19.640 --> 00:26:23.359
like crazy and playing with their cousins and

00:26:23.359 --> 00:26:27.380
they take really hard naps in the nice AC cabin

00:26:27.380 --> 00:26:31.880
so yeah it was a really great week just lots

00:26:31.880 --> 00:26:34.599
of family around and then so then we were there

00:26:34.599 --> 00:26:38.900
from Saturday to Friday went back to Sacramento

00:26:38.900 --> 00:26:41.980
area on Friday and spent one more night with

00:26:41.980 --> 00:26:44.980
Michael's aunt and then flew out on Saturday

00:26:44.980 --> 00:26:49.400
to come back to Colorado. So that was like two

00:26:49.400 --> 00:26:52.400
weeks ago we got back now and just kind of like

00:26:52.400 --> 00:26:56.299
hopped right back into work mode. And so we've

00:26:56.299 --> 00:26:59.700
got summer camp with our church next week. And

00:26:59.700 --> 00:27:03.359
my husband, Michael, he oversees like the largest

00:27:03.359 --> 00:27:06.420
campus of our church, their student team. And

00:27:06.420 --> 00:27:10.140
so he has been working like crazy, like up until

00:27:10.140 --> 00:27:13.160
anywhere from like midnight to 3 a .m. every

00:27:13.160 --> 00:27:17.369
night. working and then leaving yeah then leaving

00:27:17.369 --> 00:27:19.849
to go to work and we're taking like 1100 kids

00:27:19.849 --> 00:27:24.650
and so it's like not a small no not a small job

00:27:24.650 --> 00:27:28.390
and he oversees like 700 of those kids that are

00:27:28.390 --> 00:27:31.289
going so he's making sure everything's in place

00:27:31.289 --> 00:27:33.589
for that and there's just a lot of logistics

00:27:33.589 --> 00:27:36.349
that go into it there are yeah for anyone that's

00:27:36.349 --> 00:27:39.920
in ministry listening like you know The logistic

00:27:39.920 --> 00:27:42.799
side of it is camp week is rough. And so I think

00:27:42.799 --> 00:27:45.859
we're, we feel like the fallout of that, of like,

00:27:45.859 --> 00:27:49.859
he's exhausted working like crazy. I'm exhausted

00:27:49.859 --> 00:27:52.940
from more like. I'm working, but also like taking

00:27:52.940 --> 00:27:56.519
more of the parenting load for the past two weeks.

00:27:56.880 --> 00:27:59.559
And then it's just, and then the adjustment of

00:27:59.559 --> 00:28:01.819
getting back from a vacation and trying to get

00:28:01.819 --> 00:28:04.900
back into like normal sleep routines and just

00:28:04.900 --> 00:28:07.819
a normal routine. And then it's also really freaking

00:28:07.819 --> 00:28:10.880
hot in Colorado. And so like we're feeling cooped

00:28:10.880 --> 00:28:14.079
up and it's just like a huge plethora of things

00:28:14.079 --> 00:28:16.900
that are kind of against us right now and nothing

00:28:16.900 --> 00:28:19.500
to like, I'm so happy we went to California and

00:28:19.500 --> 00:28:22.230
it was a great vacation. But the recovery is

00:28:22.230 --> 00:28:24.329
rough. The recovery is rough, but it's not like

00:28:24.329 --> 00:28:27.769
I'm upset that we went to California. It's just

00:28:27.769 --> 00:28:30.109
the way that it is and the adjustment that you

00:28:30.109 --> 00:28:32.569
have to deal with. But yeah, we're just feeling

00:28:32.569 --> 00:28:36.190
exhausted right now. And so next week is camp.

00:28:36.730 --> 00:28:39.569
And we have some family coming into town actually

00:28:39.569 --> 00:28:42.390
tomorrow to help us with the boys while we –

00:28:42.390 --> 00:28:44.190
because Michael and I both have to go to camp

00:28:44.190 --> 00:28:47.150
and work. So we can't like bring the boys with

00:28:47.150 --> 00:28:49.819
us. Okay. So I know you've taken them before.

00:28:49.859 --> 00:28:52.839
I took them last year for one night and that

00:28:52.839 --> 00:28:56.019
was, it was super hard and I wasn't working or

00:28:56.019 --> 00:28:59.160
anything. And so this year I need to go for work

00:28:59.160 --> 00:29:01.660
sake and it's just, it would be too difficult

00:29:01.660 --> 00:29:04.920
to like be. Are they going to come up at any

00:29:04.920 --> 00:29:06.819
point or anything? Cause it's only like 45 minutes

00:29:06.819 --> 00:29:08.619
away. Yeah. They're trying to figure that out

00:29:08.619 --> 00:29:09.980
and I'm trying to figure out if it's going to

00:29:09.980 --> 00:29:13.599
be more harmful if they do come up. And then

00:29:13.599 --> 00:29:16.299
have to go back without us. For sure. Yeah. And

00:29:16.299 --> 00:29:19.960
if that's going to create a big issue for the

00:29:19.960 --> 00:29:22.500
families that's watching him. Yeah. That like

00:29:22.500 --> 00:29:24.640
obviously not on the same scale. But when I got

00:29:24.640 --> 00:29:27.940
back from this business trip, I landed at like

00:29:27.940 --> 00:29:32.359
11. So then I was getting home. Like when we

00:29:32.359 --> 00:29:34.079
would get home from the airport was like right

00:29:34.079 --> 00:29:36.700
when like the kids could be asleep, but they

00:29:36.700 --> 00:29:38.599
could be awake. Okay. And so we're trying to

00:29:38.599 --> 00:29:40.420
figure out like is it more beneficial for them

00:29:40.420 --> 00:29:43.210
to be awake or not? And then they. did end up

00:29:43.210 --> 00:29:46.150
being awake. And I wish that we had like been,

00:29:46.329 --> 00:29:49.049
because grandmas were staying, both of our moms

00:29:49.049 --> 00:29:51.450
were here staying with them. And I wish that

00:29:51.450 --> 00:29:53.470
we had made the decision like, no, they like

00:29:53.470 --> 00:29:55.869
need to be in their room and asleep. Yeah. Or

00:29:55.869 --> 00:29:58.619
like at least in their room. because then it

00:29:58.619 --> 00:30:01.019
was like i got home and of course they both wanted

00:30:01.019 --> 00:30:03.759
to like be on me and probably so excited so excited

00:30:03.759 --> 00:30:06.039
and then the second i was like okay time for

00:30:06.039 --> 00:30:09.460
bed they both just completely melted down yeah

00:30:09.460 --> 00:30:13.599
and it was a rough go trying to get them down

00:30:13.599 --> 00:30:16.480
for a nap so yes like much smaller scale but

00:30:16.480 --> 00:30:19.380
totally relate of like yes it might just make

00:30:19.380 --> 00:30:21.539
it worse exactly especially because it's like

00:30:21.539 --> 00:30:24.490
probably the best day for them to come up would

00:30:24.490 --> 00:30:27.490
be like Wednesday and I'm not going to come back

00:30:27.490 --> 00:30:31.009
until Friday. Yeah. And so then I'm probably

00:30:31.009 --> 00:30:33.809
going to encourage them not to, which they would

00:30:33.809 --> 00:30:36.750
have a lot of fun, I think, coming to the camp.

00:30:36.869 --> 00:30:39.569
Sure. And like running around. And it's also

00:30:39.569 --> 00:30:42.589
not like if you could go, if they could come

00:30:42.589 --> 00:30:44.690
up either the first or the last day, like from

00:30:44.690 --> 00:30:47.289
their perspective, that would probably be easy.

00:30:47.349 --> 00:30:49.549
Like for taking care of your kids, that would

00:30:49.549 --> 00:30:52.319
probably be easiest because then it's like. they

00:30:52.319 --> 00:30:53.779
can like come up on the first day they're like

00:30:53.779 --> 00:30:55.420
okay bye mom and dad see you in a few days or

00:30:55.420 --> 00:30:57.119
vice versa where it's like come up on the last

00:30:57.119 --> 00:30:59.160
day but then from a camp logistics standpoint

00:30:59.160 --> 00:31:01.660
it's like those are the most chaotic days where

00:31:01.660 --> 00:31:03.500
you're like making sure you have all of your

00:31:03.500 --> 00:31:08.440
people and yes doing roll call on buses and exactly

00:31:08.440 --> 00:31:12.619
exactly so i don't know what we'll do but who

00:31:12.619 --> 00:31:14.900
was i talking to i was talking to it was one

00:31:14.900 --> 00:31:17.119
of my co -workers and i was like you know i'm

00:31:17.119 --> 00:31:20.440
i am looking forward to camp because you know

00:31:20.440 --> 00:31:22.700
that sleep is terrible when i actually think

00:31:22.700 --> 00:31:25.200
i'm gonna going to catch up on sleep at camp

00:31:25.200 --> 00:31:28.539
yeah i was like i actually think i might get

00:31:28.539 --> 00:31:31.980
more sleep at camp than i do on a daily basis

00:31:31.980 --> 00:31:34.490
it will be at least less interrupted probably

00:31:34.490 --> 00:31:37.930
yes yeah that's true like it'll be my myself

00:31:37.930 --> 00:31:41.130
waking myself up and not and you're not going

00:31:41.130 --> 00:31:43.450
as a leader or anything i'm not i'm yeah i'm

00:31:43.450 --> 00:31:46.009
doing like flat irons college stuff so so that

00:31:46.009 --> 00:31:47.910
makes a big difference too you're like not in

00:31:47.910 --> 00:31:51.839
the cabin with students Or having to worry about

00:31:51.839 --> 00:31:53.880
students sneaking out on your watch or anything

00:31:53.880 --> 00:31:56.299
like that. I'm actually not in charge of any

00:31:56.299 --> 00:31:59.259
of the 1 ,100 students. That's the ideal way

00:31:59.259 --> 00:32:01.980
to go to camp. Love that. Yes. Yeah. So I am

00:32:01.980 --> 00:32:03.880
looking forward to it. But these past two weeks

00:32:03.880 --> 00:32:08.779
have been just a lot of hours working for Michael,

00:32:08.900 --> 00:32:11.500
which has turned into a lot of adjustments on

00:32:11.500 --> 00:32:13.880
the kids. And I think Colt is feeling it for

00:32:13.880 --> 00:32:17.400
sure of just like, Daddy's still at work. And

00:32:17.400 --> 00:32:22.460
like, oh, yeah. Hopefully, once we're back from

00:32:22.460 --> 00:32:24.759
camp, it'll be like we can really settle into

00:32:24.759 --> 00:32:29.200
a normal routine. Some logistics things are changing

00:32:29.200 --> 00:32:31.740
at church, so we'll try to settle into kind of

00:32:31.740 --> 00:32:34.859
a new normal routine. Is that changing right

00:32:34.859 --> 00:32:37.359
after camp? It's like a week and a half after.

00:32:37.579 --> 00:32:39.960
Okay. Are you going to have like a normal week?

00:32:40.140 --> 00:32:44.480
No. so the week after camp that will be like

00:32:44.480 --> 00:32:46.880
yeah i guess that'll be like a normal work week

00:32:46.880 --> 00:32:49.559
but no and no wednesday night youth group which

00:32:49.559 --> 00:32:53.039
will be okay that's what i was yeah yeah if you

00:32:53.039 --> 00:32:56.480
just like that's helpful to kind of like have

00:32:56.480 --> 00:32:59.359
that change right after all this chaos yeah versus

00:32:59.359 --> 00:33:03.119
like Just randomly. Yes. Maybe that isn't actually

00:33:03.119 --> 00:33:05.359
helpful just in my brain. Who knows? I know.

00:33:05.480 --> 00:33:08.740
It'll be an adjustment either way. It's just

00:33:08.740 --> 00:33:11.180
for anyone who's listening, we're just changing

00:33:11.180 --> 00:33:13.700
the way youth group is looking. Like usually

00:33:13.700 --> 00:33:16.519
right now Wednesday nights are Michael's gone

00:33:16.519 --> 00:33:19.839
like all of Wednesday and then doesn't get home

00:33:19.839 --> 00:33:22.359
until after the kids are to bed. And now it's

00:33:22.359 --> 00:33:24.640
shifting to Sunday. So Sunday is going to be

00:33:24.640 --> 00:33:27.819
his really long day. And then we'll have. If

00:33:27.819 --> 00:33:31.039
anyone cares as you're listening, there's just

00:33:31.039 --> 00:33:34.660
some adjustments to our schedule. And so, yeah,

00:33:34.700 --> 00:33:38.680
overall, like July has been a really I mean,

00:33:38.700 --> 00:33:40.859
it's been a really good month. Lots of memories

00:33:40.859 --> 00:33:44.039
have been made. I feel like Cole, especially

00:33:44.039 --> 00:33:46.700
like so he'll be three in like a week and a half,

00:33:46.740 --> 00:33:51.420
which is wild. But same has just like. I'm like,

00:33:51.440 --> 00:33:54.599
where did this big kid come from? Yeah. Lloyd

00:33:54.599 --> 00:33:56.420
has been doing, I don't know if Colt's picked

00:33:56.420 --> 00:33:58.599
up on this yet, but Lloyd's doing like. He's

00:33:58.599 --> 00:34:01.079
like saying and doing adult things. Yes. Where

00:34:01.079 --> 00:34:03.319
like one of the funny things he did the other

00:34:03.319 --> 00:34:05.779
day was we were in the car and Zeta had her water

00:34:05.779 --> 00:34:08.440
bottle and she like couldn't get it open. I was

00:34:08.440 --> 00:34:10.340
like, well, sorry, like I'm driving. I can't

00:34:10.340 --> 00:34:13.440
help. Yeah. And Lloyd goes, Zeta, you have to

00:34:13.440 --> 00:34:16.019
try first and then you can ask for help. Which

00:34:16.019 --> 00:34:19.139
is like usually if he's asking for help, especially

00:34:19.139 --> 00:34:20.719
if it's something I know he can do, I'll be like.

00:34:21.260 --> 00:34:23.239
try and if you still need help then like let

00:34:23.239 --> 00:34:25.480
me know so he's like picking up on these things

00:34:25.480 --> 00:34:27.940
that we say to him and he's now saying them to

00:34:27.940 --> 00:34:31.440
zeta that's so cute um like if he's doing something

00:34:31.440 --> 00:34:33.940
he'll be like remember zeta we do and then he

00:34:33.940 --> 00:34:37.500
like fills in the steps which has been so funny

00:34:37.500 --> 00:34:41.260
oh my gosh yeah i feel like colt is like like

00:34:41.260 --> 00:34:43.500
i can have full like you said full -on conversations

00:34:43.500 --> 00:34:46.719
with him and he i feel like he's such an observer

00:34:46.719 --> 00:34:50.079
yeah and like such a lloyd is too he like when

00:34:50.079 --> 00:34:51.920
he's especially when he's playing independently

00:34:51.920 --> 00:34:54.599
if michael and i are having a conversation he's

00:34:54.599 --> 00:34:57.940
always listening and i'm like he'll like ask

00:34:59.039 --> 00:35:01.360
about what we were talking about, like, hours

00:35:01.360 --> 00:35:04.420
later. Yeah. Like, why did you say blah, blah,

00:35:04.460 --> 00:35:06.579
blah, blah, blah? And I'm like, oh. I didn't

00:35:06.579 --> 00:35:09.480
realize you heard that. And the other thing we

00:35:09.480 --> 00:35:11.500
do, like, I don't know if you and Stuart do this,

00:35:11.599 --> 00:35:14.199
but we will spell a lot of things, like, if we

00:35:14.199 --> 00:35:16.420
don't want Colt to pick up on it. We don't do

00:35:16.420 --> 00:35:19.699
a ton. We have a couple of those now. And now

00:35:19.699 --> 00:35:22.760
Colt will try to be like, what does A, B, C,

00:35:22.780 --> 00:35:26.360
D, E, F, G, S, like, what does that mean? And

00:35:26.360 --> 00:35:28.860
I'm like. Oh, you know I'm spelling it because

00:35:28.860 --> 00:35:31.059
I don't want you to know what I'm spelling. So

00:35:31.059 --> 00:35:32.559
you're trying to figure out what this means.

00:35:32.619 --> 00:35:35.579
Yes. Yeah. Like this morning I was like, Michael,

00:35:35.639 --> 00:35:38.179
are you still going to make P -A -N -C -A -K

00:35:38.179 --> 00:35:40.980
-E -S's? Because I'm like, if Colt hears that

00:35:40.980 --> 00:35:43.880
we were going to make pancakes, he's going to

00:35:43.880 --> 00:35:46.599
say yes. Yeah. And he's like, what does P -C

00:35:46.599 --> 00:35:49.579
-K -E -S mean? I feel like we have more code

00:35:49.579 --> 00:35:52.980
words. Yeah. Oh, do you? Okay. Yeah. We have

00:35:52.980 --> 00:35:55.440
like, again, not a ton, but there's a few things

00:35:55.440 --> 00:35:57.190
that we've like, instead of of spelling it will

00:35:57.190 --> 00:35:59.110
have like a code word for that's smart which

00:35:59.110 --> 00:36:01.349
I kind of think helps more because then it's

00:36:01.349 --> 00:36:03.349
just like it feels like something random instead

00:36:03.349 --> 00:36:07.050
of yes yeah that's that's good Michael and I

00:36:07.050 --> 00:36:09.809
will also sign to each other so like that's smart

00:36:09.809 --> 00:36:12.349
yeah so he knows sign language really well but

00:36:12.349 --> 00:36:15.050
I'm like I know how to do the alphabet so I can

00:36:15.050 --> 00:36:17.650
spell things like that but even sometimes I'll

00:36:17.650 --> 00:36:19.489
get it wrong he's like that's not a that's not

00:36:19.489 --> 00:36:21.230
a word you're like but you knew what I was talking

00:36:21.230 --> 00:36:24.050
about yes that's what matters so now Cole like

00:36:24.409 --> 00:36:26.389
Obviously, we don't have a video for today, but

00:36:26.389 --> 00:36:29.909
now if I spell something and I'm like signing

00:36:29.909 --> 00:36:34.110
it at this, he'll go, what is ABCDFG? He'll sign

00:36:34.110 --> 00:36:36.650
it. He'll like pretend to sign it. That's so

00:36:36.650 --> 00:36:39.250
funny. I'm like, you just are such a smarty pants.

00:36:39.309 --> 00:36:42.030
You're figuring out so much. It's crazy. All

00:36:42.030 --> 00:36:44.809
the time. It's crazy. So. Yeah. One of the nice

00:36:44.809 --> 00:36:47.269
things, though, is Lloyd is able to like kind

00:36:47.269 --> 00:36:50.889
of explain things more. Yeah. So like if he's

00:36:50.889 --> 00:36:53.010
sad or scared or something like that, instead

00:36:53.010 --> 00:36:56.320
of like. He doesn't understand what why means

00:36:56.320 --> 00:37:00.119
yet. But if I ask him the right way, so if he'll

00:37:00.119 --> 00:37:03.659
be like, I'm sad. And if I ask why, he'll just

00:37:03.659 --> 00:37:08.639
say yes. Yes. But if I ask him what is making

00:37:08.639 --> 00:37:11.880
you sad, then he can tell me. That's cool. And

00:37:11.880 --> 00:37:15.360
sometimes the same with being scared, which is

00:37:15.360 --> 00:37:18.329
incredibly helpful. Yeah. That is super helpful

00:37:18.329 --> 00:37:20.409
when you can figure out how to help your child.

00:37:20.449 --> 00:37:22.110
Because then it's like, I mean, so one of the

00:37:22.110 --> 00:37:24.010
big things right now, one of his big changes

00:37:24.010 --> 00:37:27.889
is we took away his elephant lovey. Okay. Which

00:37:27.889 --> 00:37:31.650
has been really, really hard. And the main reason

00:37:31.650 --> 00:37:35.530
was he chews on it all night long. So we're like,

00:37:35.610 --> 00:37:37.829
this isn't like, I would have let him have it

00:37:37.829 --> 00:37:40.349
as long as he wanted. Yeah. If it wasn't for

00:37:40.349 --> 00:37:41.849
that. But it's like, okay, but this is going

00:37:41.849 --> 00:37:44.489
to become like a dental issue and an oral health

00:37:44.489 --> 00:37:47.429
issue soon. And it's going to be easier to do

00:37:47.429 --> 00:37:51.449
this now than in two or three years. Yes. So

00:37:51.449 --> 00:37:55.030
we tried to do a switch and like give him a like

00:37:55.030 --> 00:37:58.090
stuffed lightning, Lightning McQueen. Okay. And

00:37:58.090 --> 00:38:01.019
the first two nights. amazing he was so excited

00:38:01.019 --> 00:38:03.980
and now i think it kind of ruined this stuff

00:38:03.980 --> 00:38:06.639
lightning mcqueen for him which makes me very

00:38:06.639 --> 00:38:10.519
sad but yeah so he'll be like i'm sad i'm like

00:38:10.519 --> 00:38:14.820
buddy what's making you sad old bubba because

00:38:14.820 --> 00:38:17.300
that's what he calls his elephant i'm like oh

00:38:17.300 --> 00:38:20.599
buddy like i'm sorry i know you miss him and

00:38:20.599 --> 00:38:24.000
like yeah that's really tough like yeah and it's

00:38:24.000 --> 00:38:26.260
just heartbreaking right like both stewart and

00:38:26.260 --> 00:38:28.460
i like it takes should we just give so much self

00:38:28.460 --> 00:38:30.539
-control not to just be like here you go yes

00:38:30.539 --> 00:38:33.300
um and like we know this is what's best for him

00:38:33.300 --> 00:38:36.519
but like this just like sweet little boy just

00:38:36.519 --> 00:38:41.019
i'm sad like i want my bubba and like i totally

00:38:41.019 --> 00:38:44.769
get it and yeah Oh, gosh. Yeah. And if I could

00:38:44.769 --> 00:38:47.309
explain to you, like, you can't chew on this

00:38:47.309 --> 00:38:49.469
and you would understand. Yeah. Then, like, yeah,

00:38:49.489 --> 00:38:52.110
you could have it back, but he doesn't. Yes.

00:38:52.130 --> 00:38:54.809
Yeah. Dang it. And then same with being scared.

00:38:54.849 --> 00:38:56.590
He'll be like, I'm scared. Like, well, what's

00:38:56.590 --> 00:38:59.590
making you scared? And he's not quite as clear

00:38:59.590 --> 00:39:04.469
about that. Okay. It kind of depends. But then

00:39:04.469 --> 00:39:06.110
we can be like, okay, well, we can pray about

00:39:06.110 --> 00:39:10.530
it or we can. you know monsters like this is

00:39:10.530 --> 00:39:13.750
how we're gonna handle monsters or i know monsters

00:39:13.750 --> 00:39:16.010
has like we were talking about this before but

00:39:16.010 --> 00:39:19.670
monsters has become a new thing we are navigating

00:39:19.670 --> 00:39:22.210
and i'm like where did this even come from like

00:39:22.210 --> 00:39:25.710
i don't think other than monsters inc there's

00:39:25.710 --> 00:39:28.969
not been there has to be exposure i think when

00:39:28.969 --> 00:39:31.570
we were talking earlier I said this but like

00:39:31.570 --> 00:39:33.909
I know this is when imagination like starts to

00:39:33.909 --> 00:39:36.750
come online for kids and their brains so there

00:39:36.750 --> 00:39:39.949
has to be like some inherent thing yeah because

00:39:39.949 --> 00:39:42.489
I feel like every kid goes through some sort

00:39:42.489 --> 00:39:45.170
of phase of monsters like you know it might be

00:39:45.170 --> 00:39:47.809
in like different capacities but for both of

00:39:47.809 --> 00:39:49.929
our boys like at the same time to just like start

00:39:49.929 --> 00:39:54.739
talking about monsters yeah is crazy like yeah

00:39:54.739 --> 00:39:56.800
again it's like i've never brought them up with

00:39:56.800 --> 00:39:59.739
lloyd we've watched monsters inc but like you

00:39:59.739 --> 00:40:02.320
said when you watch monsters inc where it's like

00:40:02.320 --> 00:40:04.739
they're funny and they're like they're so silly

00:40:04.739 --> 00:40:07.380
they're they're friendly like we like mike and

00:40:07.380 --> 00:40:11.079
we like sully like yeah so that fear isn't coming

00:40:11.079 --> 00:40:13.739
from i don't think it's coming from that no yeah

00:40:13.739 --> 00:40:16.539
yeah it is it is super interesting and i like

00:40:16.539 --> 00:40:20.500
of course in my like my mind i'm going into like

00:40:20.500 --> 00:40:23.179
the spiritual aspect of it and i'm like what

00:40:23.179 --> 00:40:25.960
is happening in like what demons are yeah i'm

00:40:25.960 --> 00:40:27.579
like what's happening in my child's room priest

00:40:27.579 --> 00:40:31.860
yes and so like colt will communicate to us that

00:40:31.860 --> 00:40:34.300
he's scared his new thing is that he's scared

00:40:34.300 --> 00:40:37.639
of his bed and that's why he doesn't want to

00:40:37.639 --> 00:40:41.179
sleep on it and so we've come down to that he

00:40:41.179 --> 00:40:43.920
he's scared of it because it's too big is what

00:40:43.920 --> 00:40:46.920
he says but so we're trying to make it feel smaller

00:40:46.920 --> 00:40:51.219
and like him more like compact in it but then

00:40:51.219 --> 00:40:54.099
yeah he'll say like like oh no there's a monster

00:40:54.099 --> 00:40:57.760
or like he's scared of the dark or yeah lloyd

00:40:57.760 --> 00:41:00.199
will say that like if there's a hole in something

00:41:00.199 --> 00:41:02.840
he'll say there are monsters in there or there

00:41:02.840 --> 00:41:05.119
are monsters under trees is the other thing he

00:41:05.119 --> 00:41:08.659
says oh interesting like again have you guys

00:41:08.659 --> 00:41:11.369
read where the wild things are like i guess we

00:41:11.369 --> 00:41:14.269
have but it's been a long time yeah yeah i don't

00:41:14.269 --> 00:41:16.369
think that's that's where that's coming from

00:41:16.369 --> 00:41:19.449
i don't know yeah i'm like is someone talking

00:41:19.449 --> 00:41:22.750
about it at church or yeah i'm like that's the

00:41:22.750 --> 00:41:26.309
only other time with us your grandparents and

00:41:26.309 --> 00:41:29.469
church like that's pretty much it where else

00:41:29.469 --> 00:41:31.489
would you be getting it and yeah then i like

00:41:31.840 --> 00:41:33.340
I didn't ask my in -laws, but I asked my mom

00:41:33.340 --> 00:41:36.360
and she was like, we didn't say it. Like he started

00:41:36.360 --> 00:41:38.980
telling us that like there were monsters in trees.

00:41:39.340 --> 00:41:42.059
And so we're like, okay. Like, and that's a weirdly

00:41:42.059 --> 00:41:45.260
specific thing too. It totally is. So. We're

00:41:45.260 --> 00:41:47.239
like, are there monsters in the trees that I

00:41:47.239 --> 00:41:49.780
can't see? You know? What is it? I don't like

00:41:49.780 --> 00:41:52.539
this. What is happening? Yeah. It's, it's such

00:41:52.539 --> 00:41:54.920
a weird phase to be in. Cause I'm like, I want

00:41:54.920 --> 00:41:57.519
to hear where he's coming from and like help

00:41:57.519 --> 00:42:00.949
him through this fear. And I don't think it's

00:42:00.949 --> 00:42:02.650
gotten to the point where it's like this crazy

00:42:02.650 --> 00:42:06.130
fear yet. It's just he's like talking about it.

00:42:06.190 --> 00:42:08.769
Yeah. But I'm like, I don't want it to get to

00:42:08.769 --> 00:42:11.469
the point where it's like a deep fear or whatever.

00:42:11.690 --> 00:42:13.590
Where it's like crippling. Yeah. If there is

00:42:13.590 --> 00:42:15.489
a legitimate fear there, you also don't want

00:42:15.489 --> 00:42:17.510
to be like, oh, you're fine. Because that's not

00:42:17.510 --> 00:42:20.929
helpful either. Yeah. So who knows? What have

00:42:20.929 --> 00:42:23.989
you guys been doing, if anything, so far? I try

00:42:23.989 --> 00:42:26.610
to point out like, oh, no, like monsters, you

00:42:26.610 --> 00:42:30.150
know, they're not real. They're fake. And I'll

00:42:30.150 --> 00:42:32.230
– yeah, like that's just – it's all imaginary.

00:42:32.989 --> 00:42:36.190
And so he'll say like, oh, no, they're fake.

00:42:36.289 --> 00:42:38.230
Like he'll like kind of repeat what I say. And

00:42:38.230 --> 00:42:41.250
I'm like, they're silly. Like try to just bring

00:42:41.250 --> 00:42:43.829
it back to like the Monsters, Inc. verbiage.

00:42:44.269 --> 00:42:46.789
But what did he say the other day? Oh, we were

00:42:46.789 --> 00:42:48.429
going to go out to the garage to get in the car.

00:42:48.849 --> 00:42:50.550
And I was like, oh, can you open the door, buddy?

00:42:50.769 --> 00:42:53.170
And he's like – he opened it and he's like, there's

00:42:53.170 --> 00:42:55.769
monsters. Like it's dark. There's monsters out

00:42:55.769 --> 00:42:58.050
there. And I was like – oh, buddy, there's no

00:42:58.050 --> 00:43:00.849
monsters out there. Also, monsters are fake.

00:43:00.889 --> 00:43:03.349
They're not real. They're just silly. He's like,

00:43:03.449 --> 00:43:06.610
oh, yeah, monsters are fake, not real. I said,

00:43:06.630 --> 00:43:10.510
yeah, buddy, no worries. Then he kind of dropped

00:43:10.510 --> 00:43:12.889
it. It's just so interesting to me that that's

00:43:12.889 --> 00:43:17.730
become part of it. I guess it is his imagination

00:43:17.730 --> 00:43:21.210
coming online. He is very imaginative with his

00:43:21.210 --> 00:43:27.030
play. He does a lot of he's super into spider

00:43:27.030 --> 00:43:30.030
-man and so he does a lot of like he's spider

00:43:30.030 --> 00:43:33.030
-man or like superhero kind of like yeah he's

00:43:33.030 --> 00:43:36.909
on a mission to like save the world and so i'm

00:43:36.909 --> 00:43:39.489
like maybe it's just his imagination just running

00:43:39.489 --> 00:43:42.849
wild and yeah i love i love that he has this

00:43:42.849 --> 00:43:45.409
imagination but it is a very interesting thing

00:43:45.409 --> 00:43:48.570
to navigate as we're like for sure bringing fear

00:43:48.570 --> 00:43:51.969
fearful things into it right and again you don't

00:43:51.969 --> 00:43:55.139
want to like dismiss a fear No. But then at the

00:43:55.139 --> 00:43:56.780
same time, you don't want to, like, lean into

00:43:56.780 --> 00:43:59.980
it and make it worse. Yeah. Yeah. So I try to,

00:44:00.000 --> 00:44:02.280
like, I try to keep it more lighthearted, I guess,

00:44:02.280 --> 00:44:05.739
of, like, I'm not going to be, like, playing

00:44:05.739 --> 00:44:07.639
into the fear more and be like, oh, yeah, monsters.

00:44:08.019 --> 00:44:10.780
Are there monsters out there? Oh, no. Like. Yeah.

00:44:11.340 --> 00:44:13.739
Yeah. I think Stuart and I have talked about

00:44:13.739 --> 00:44:15.659
this for a second. I wish he could, like, explain

00:44:15.659 --> 00:44:19.219
more. Mm -hmm. What is this monster? You know,

00:44:19.239 --> 00:44:20.760
again, to be like, is this your imagination?

00:44:21.099 --> 00:44:25.000
Again, do we need to hire a priest to exercise

00:44:25.000 --> 00:44:28.539
our house? Do we need some holy water? That's

00:44:28.539 --> 00:44:32.320
probably my fear more than my imagination more

00:44:32.320 --> 00:44:35.719
than. Yeah. And you read all these things of

00:44:35.719 --> 00:44:38.179
like the things like kids can see that we can't

00:44:38.179 --> 00:44:40.900
see. And I'm like. I can't read those things

00:44:40.900 --> 00:44:44.500
at night because then it scares me. Yeah. I hate

00:44:44.500 --> 00:44:46.340
it so much. Yeah. Is there anything you guys

00:44:46.340 --> 00:44:49.260
are doing differently? So we do pray a lot, which

00:44:49.260 --> 00:44:50.679
is funny because that's been one of his like

00:44:50.679 --> 00:44:53.880
new bedtime stalls is I need to pray. Cole does

00:44:53.880 --> 00:44:55.579
that too. I don't want to come to the point where

00:44:55.579 --> 00:44:57.820
I'm like, no, you're not praying. Yeah. But then

00:44:57.820 --> 00:44:59.840
also when it's the 15th time you've asked tonight.

00:45:01.029 --> 00:45:03.869
Um, so we'll pray. And so, and like, I've also

00:45:03.869 --> 00:45:05.469
been trying to teach him like, you can pray by

00:45:05.469 --> 00:45:07.150
yourself. Like if you're scared, you can say,

00:45:07.210 --> 00:45:09.829
dear God, I'm scared. Help me feel brave. Um,

00:45:09.929 --> 00:45:12.210
so we've been trying to do that. And then with

00:45:12.210 --> 00:45:15.510
monsters specifically, I tell him that if he

00:45:15.510 --> 00:45:18.289
sees a monster, he can tell it to go away and

00:45:18.289 --> 00:45:22.050
that his dad can beat the monster up. Yes. Okay.

00:45:22.090 --> 00:45:23.889
That's such a good idea. So again, that like,

00:45:23.949 --> 00:45:27.570
there is the part of me that is like, if it is

00:45:27.570 --> 00:45:29.730
a demon and like, this is going really dark.

00:45:29.909 --> 00:45:32.969
Yeah. I want you to know how to handle it. Which,

00:45:33.050 --> 00:45:35.409
like, is telling a demon to go away going to

00:45:35.409 --> 00:45:37.690
work? Honestly, I don't know. I'm not an expert

00:45:37.690 --> 00:45:41.329
in this. Yeah. But I also, like, again, this

00:45:41.329 --> 00:45:42.789
is way deeper than I think we're planning on

00:45:42.789 --> 00:45:44.530
taking this right now. But spiritual warfare.

00:45:44.530 --> 00:45:46.710
What an interesting summary we've had. Spiritual

00:45:46.710 --> 00:45:49.650
warfare is real. And, like, again, I don't want

00:45:49.650 --> 00:45:51.250
to, like, feed into this fear and, like, tell

00:45:51.250 --> 00:45:52.769
him that, like, oh, demons are real and you need

00:45:52.769 --> 00:45:54.730
to be scared of them. Yes. But eventually he's

00:45:54.730 --> 00:45:56.190
going to find out. And this is something that,

00:45:56.250 --> 00:45:58.889
like, I don't want in 10 years this to be, like.

00:45:59.159 --> 00:46:01.400
Yeah, like I want it to kind of be a conversation

00:46:01.400 --> 00:46:03.500
throughout where it's like, no, like God protects

00:46:03.500 --> 00:46:07.900
you. And we can start small. Yeah, again. With

00:46:07.900 --> 00:46:11.380
the monster that he thinks is in the tree. Exactly.

00:46:11.519 --> 00:46:13.599
So you can tell the monster to go away and you

00:46:13.599 --> 00:46:16.300
can ask God to be with you and help you feel

00:46:16.300 --> 00:46:18.900
brave and to keep you safe. And he'll do that.

00:46:19.210 --> 00:46:22.889
And that's what we do. That's really smart. I

00:46:22.889 --> 00:46:24.610
feel like all of this is I'm like, I don't know

00:46:24.610 --> 00:46:26.030
if I'm doing the right choice, but this is what

00:46:26.030 --> 00:46:28.250
we're doing now. And it's working. I don't think

00:46:28.250 --> 00:46:30.590
there's necessarily a right or wrong choice,

00:46:30.650 --> 00:46:33.449
but I think for the most part, you don't want

00:46:33.449 --> 00:46:36.869
to play into the fear and make them more scared.

00:46:37.869 --> 00:46:40.289
And I don't know for Cole, I don't know if he's

00:46:40.289 --> 00:46:42.710
at the point where he's actually really afraid

00:46:42.710 --> 00:46:46.730
or it might be attention seeking at this point

00:46:46.730 --> 00:46:49.170
because it's usually... at nighttime when he

00:46:49.170 --> 00:46:51.909
doesn't want us to go away and he knows how to

00:46:51.909 --> 00:46:55.250
manipulate us to get us to stay longer. I don't

00:46:55.250 --> 00:46:57.389
want to like dismiss that, but I also don't want

00:46:57.389 --> 00:47:00.769
to play into it more. So parenting is so weird.

00:47:01.150 --> 00:47:03.929
It is. It really is like the biggest challenge

00:47:03.929 --> 00:47:06.489
of my life. Like, yeah, I could get anything

00:47:06.489 --> 00:47:10.510
at work done. That's a challenge. Infant phase.

00:47:11.429 --> 00:47:13.349
Easiest one. Yeah. Oh yeah. I mean, not that

00:47:13.349 --> 00:47:16.849
it's not hard, but like the older the kids get,

00:47:17.289 --> 00:47:20.230
It's just, there's more, it's more complicated.

00:47:20.389 --> 00:47:22.610
It is. It's more like, there's more aspects.

00:47:22.650 --> 00:47:24.630
And I mean, to be fair, the infant face is also

00:47:24.630 --> 00:47:28.630
the most boring one. Yeah. But yeah. Yes. And

00:47:28.630 --> 00:47:31.530
there's just so many like things that come into

00:47:31.530 --> 00:47:34.710
play that could affect whatever you're. Yeah.

00:47:34.849 --> 00:47:37.289
There's independence in there. Yeah. That's one

00:47:37.289 --> 00:47:38.869
thing we've been having a tough time with is

00:47:38.869 --> 00:47:42.349
just like Lloyd is pushing every single boundary.

00:47:42.489 --> 00:47:45.059
Yeah. And we're like, we. don't know what to

00:47:45.059 --> 00:47:47.139
do so like there have been a couple days this

00:47:47.139 --> 00:47:49.159
week where we're like he he won't do anything

00:47:49.159 --> 00:47:52.119
nothing is working we've tried everything we

00:47:52.119 --> 00:47:56.760
can think of yeah and it's not working yes and

00:47:56.760 --> 00:48:00.480
i'm so frustrated uh our new thing is like if

00:48:00.480 --> 00:48:02.440
cole is frustrated with us which he will tell

00:48:02.440 --> 00:48:05.820
us he'll say i'm frustrated and i'm like okay

00:48:05.820 --> 00:48:08.440
i'm glad that you're frustrated he will blatantly

00:48:08.440 --> 00:48:12.150
ignore us Oh, okay. That's a new thing. And you

00:48:12.150 --> 00:48:14.110
can tell he's ignoring us because he looks away

00:48:14.110 --> 00:48:18.409
from us. I'm checking to make sure you know I'm

00:48:18.409 --> 00:48:20.429
ignoring you. Yeah, and he'll look at us and

00:48:20.429 --> 00:48:22.329
then he'll look back down at whatever he's playing

00:48:22.329 --> 00:48:24.210
with. Like when you're upset and you close a

00:48:24.210 --> 00:48:25.909
cabinet a little too hard to be like, you need

00:48:25.909 --> 00:48:28.789
to know I'm upset right now. Yes, yeah. And that's

00:48:28.789 --> 00:48:31.889
a new thing that Michael and I will kind of laugh

00:48:31.889 --> 00:48:35.670
at each other. But I can see his independence

00:48:35.670 --> 00:48:39.300
coming out. Which I'm so grateful for. Yes. But

00:48:39.300 --> 00:48:41.579
also I'm like, you are, you are going to be a

00:48:41.579 --> 00:48:45.500
tough little boy as you get older. It has been

00:48:45.500 --> 00:48:47.960
a rough couple of weeks with that where Lloyd

00:48:47.960 --> 00:48:50.699
doesn't want to listen at all. And I have to

00:48:50.699 --> 00:48:52.619
keep reminding myself like this is appropriate.

00:48:52.760 --> 00:48:56.420
Like this is how he like learns. And also I am

00:48:56.420 --> 00:49:00.340
losing my mind. Yes. Yes. Yep. The only thing

00:49:00.340 --> 00:49:03.869
today. uh that has like kind of worked is he

00:49:03.869 --> 00:49:06.030
got all of his cars taken away before 9 a .m

00:49:06.030 --> 00:49:08.389
but then throughout the day i've been like okay

00:49:08.389 --> 00:49:11.349
you can earn your cars back if you listen and

00:49:11.349 --> 00:49:14.449
obey so if i ask you to do something and you

00:49:14.449 --> 00:49:17.429
do it then you can get your cars back yeah and

00:49:17.429 --> 00:49:20.489
that has been working really well oh nice um

00:49:20.489 --> 00:49:21.789
so i'm like i don't know how this works in the

00:49:21.789 --> 00:49:23.150
future because i don't want him to feel like

00:49:23.150 --> 00:49:25.170
he has to earn his toys and be like every day

00:49:25.170 --> 00:49:27.409
you have to earn all your toys back yeah so i'm

00:49:27.409 --> 00:49:29.800
like okay i guess like positive reinforcement

00:49:29.800 --> 00:49:32.500
seems to be working better but then i don't know

00:49:32.500 --> 00:49:34.380
what that looks like on a day -to -day basis

00:49:34.380 --> 00:49:36.719
yeah because it's like i can't always be bribing

00:49:36.719 --> 00:49:39.039
you to like sometimes you just need to get in

00:49:39.039 --> 00:49:41.619
the freaking car yeah and it doesn't matter like

00:49:41.619 --> 00:49:44.500
you don't get a car or candy or whatever you

00:49:44.500 --> 00:49:47.260
just need to do what i say yeah so it'll kind

00:49:47.260 --> 00:49:51.179
of like weirdly like condition him to yeah oh

00:49:51.769 --> 00:49:54.230
When I'm kind, like it may not be a car reward

00:49:54.230 --> 00:49:57.070
or a toy reward, but the reward is that mom is

00:49:57.070 --> 00:50:03.289
nice. Mom isn't crying. Yeah. Yeah. Gosh. No,

00:50:03.369 --> 00:50:06.449
I feel that for sure as with the testing of the

00:50:06.449 --> 00:50:10.190
boundaries and it feels like it's even escalated

00:50:10.190 --> 00:50:13.710
this summer more. Oh, 100%. Yeah. With the lack

00:50:13.710 --> 00:50:16.849
of routine. I feel like he turned three and it

00:50:16.849 --> 00:50:19.440
was like, oh. I'm scared for a week and a half

00:50:19.440 --> 00:50:22.360
from now then. I mean, maybe you started early.

00:50:22.440 --> 00:50:26.800
Maybe it's just the summer. Maybe once September

00:50:26.800 --> 00:50:28.920
hits, we're just going to have like perfect children.

00:50:29.119 --> 00:50:30.880
I think so, yeah. Yeah, let's pray for that.

00:50:31.239 --> 00:50:32.500
That's definitely what's going to happen. Let's

00:50:32.500 --> 00:50:35.079
end our podcast with a prayer. Yes, that our

00:50:35.079 --> 00:50:38.199
kids are going to be, yeah. Yeah. Well, I feel

00:50:38.199 --> 00:50:41.389
like we've kind of really gotten off the... the

00:50:41.389 --> 00:50:44.409
summer talk, but yeah, it's just kind of a catch

00:50:44.409 --> 00:50:46.670
up episode. Yeah. I feel like it's been a really

00:50:46.670 --> 00:50:49.630
good summer for the most part. I'm like ready

00:50:49.630 --> 00:50:53.289
to get back into a normal routine and ready maybe

00:50:53.289 --> 00:50:55.550
for a little bit cooler weather would be great.

00:50:55.570 --> 00:50:58.409
Yeah. So we could have some, I'm like, I like

00:50:58.409 --> 00:51:01.929
the cooler weather when it's like cool by, I

00:51:01.929 --> 00:51:04.550
mean, cool throughout the day, but like by 4

00:51:04.550 --> 00:51:07.469
PM where we can go outside and play and have

00:51:07.469 --> 00:51:11.079
shade and. That's what I really like. I want

00:51:11.079 --> 00:51:13.380
to be able to go to a playground. Yes, where

00:51:13.380 --> 00:51:16.460
the playground, the slides are not fire. Yeah,

00:51:16.519 --> 00:51:18.159
you're not getting like third degree burns just

00:51:18.159 --> 00:51:20.099
going down the slide. We had a day this week.

00:51:20.159 --> 00:51:22.739
I don't know if it was like this for you, but

00:51:22.739 --> 00:51:25.719
it rained really hard for like maybe 10 minutes.

00:51:25.780 --> 00:51:28.760
It wasn't long, but it rained enough that it

00:51:28.760 --> 00:51:31.860
cooled down so much that we went on a like mile

00:51:31.860 --> 00:51:35.530
and a half walk. Nice. Then, of course, it went

00:51:35.530 --> 00:51:37.670
back to being 90 degrees the rest of the week.

00:51:38.030 --> 00:51:41.590
I was like, that is ideal. The afternoon and

00:51:41.590 --> 00:51:44.170
the day was warm, but then it cooled down and

00:51:44.170 --> 00:51:47.869
we were able to enjoy the evening. One of my

00:51:47.869 --> 00:51:50.150
favorite things is the cooler evenings where

00:51:50.150 --> 00:51:53.090
we go and play in the backyard and cook dinner

00:51:53.090 --> 00:51:56.489
on the Blackstone and all just hang out outside.

00:51:56.849 --> 00:51:59.429
Those are my favorite nights, and I'm craving

00:51:59.429 --> 00:52:02.550
that. Yeah, you don't want to be cooking on the

00:52:02.550 --> 00:52:05.230
Blackstone when it's 100 degrees out. You do

00:52:05.230 --> 00:52:07.250
not. But I also don't want to cook in my house

00:52:07.250 --> 00:52:09.730
because then the house is a bajillion degrees

00:52:09.730 --> 00:52:13.550
too. So we will pray for the fall to come quickly.

00:52:13.769 --> 00:52:18.710
Yes. Yeah. Well, do we want to close out with

00:52:18.710 --> 00:52:21.869
our wins of the week? I can go first if you would

00:52:21.869 --> 00:52:25.389
like. Yeah, go for it. My win, so I feel like

00:52:25.389 --> 00:52:28.070
this summer. I don't know if something has shifted

00:52:28.070 --> 00:52:32.510
within like my mental state or what. Like, I

00:52:32.510 --> 00:52:35.090
just feel like working my work from home days,

00:52:35.250 --> 00:52:38.110
which are Monday and Wednesday where I'm like

00:52:38.110 --> 00:52:40.550
solo parenting it. And then also working from

00:52:40.550 --> 00:52:43.550
home. I just feel like they've like gotten a

00:52:43.550 --> 00:52:45.969
little bit lighter, which like, that's great.

00:52:46.409 --> 00:52:48.969
Yes. We still have tough days, but I feel like

00:52:48.969 --> 00:52:52.809
we've gotten into, maybe it's that the boys are

00:52:52.809 --> 00:52:54.909
like a little bit better, like playing together,

00:52:55.090 --> 00:52:59.159
like, Colt has his new thing is playing with

00:52:59.159 --> 00:53:01.579
kinetic sand. So he he'll sit there and play

00:53:01.579 --> 00:53:04.300
with kinetic sand for like an hour and be like

00:53:04.300 --> 00:53:07.280
completely occupied and loves it. And I just

00:53:07.280 --> 00:53:10.239
feel like Cruz is like able to sit and play.

00:53:10.320 --> 00:53:13.139
Like, I just feel like we're getting maybe into

00:53:13.139 --> 00:53:15.820
a good routine with these work from home days.

00:53:16.099 --> 00:53:19.059
And yeah, like obviously there's still tantrums

00:53:19.059 --> 00:53:22.400
and things that happen, but I feel like I can.

00:53:22.840 --> 00:53:25.099
handle like it doesn't feel so daunting to me

00:53:25.099 --> 00:53:28.300
anymore that's so great when I feel like Zeta

00:53:28.300 --> 00:53:30.480
and Cruz are like getting to the age where it's

00:53:30.480 --> 00:53:32.400
like oh you can play by yourself for a couple

00:53:32.400 --> 00:53:35.219
minutes or like yeah Zeta will take anything

00:53:35.219 --> 00:53:37.619
like if you have two containers that she can

00:53:37.619 --> 00:53:39.780
switch things back and forth she'll do that for

00:53:39.780 --> 00:53:43.380
yeah for hours yep yep but like having something

00:53:43.380 --> 00:53:49.179
whereas when they're younger they just They are

00:53:49.179 --> 00:53:52.260
truly incapable just because of development.

00:53:52.579 --> 00:53:54.880
So getting to that phase where it's like you

00:53:54.880 --> 00:53:57.280
can do something by yourself. Exactly. It's so

00:53:57.280 --> 00:54:01.579
nice. And so obviously the boys still have conflict.

00:54:02.019 --> 00:54:04.900
They will for probably their entire lives. But

00:54:04.900 --> 00:54:08.179
I feel like I can actually get stuff done for

00:54:08.179 --> 00:54:11.559
a few minutes at least now. And so it feels a

00:54:11.559 --> 00:54:14.079
little bit lighter. That's great. Yeah. Yeah.

00:54:14.119 --> 00:54:16.219
How about you? What's your one? Yeah. So Lloyd's

00:54:16.219 --> 00:54:19.500
birthday was a couple of weeks ago. And I feel

00:54:19.500 --> 00:54:22.699
like birthday parties like now have just like

00:54:22.699 --> 00:54:26.480
turned into like a production. And maybe it's

00:54:26.480 --> 00:54:27.900
just because like that's what you're seeing online.

00:54:27.960 --> 00:54:30.199
Right. You know, you see the like Instagram aesthetic

00:54:30.199 --> 00:54:32.679
with like the photo booth and all the props and

00:54:32.679 --> 00:54:35.960
stuff like that. And of course, I am pregnant

00:54:35.960 --> 00:54:37.820
and working a full time job and have two kids.

00:54:37.880 --> 00:54:40.119
And so I was like, I'm just going to go with

00:54:40.119 --> 00:54:42.639
like. Kind of a 90s party where it's like. I

00:54:42.639 --> 00:54:44.739
love it. We had some balloons. My parents picked

00:54:44.739 --> 00:54:47.280
up the balloons. I would love to like get to

00:54:47.280 --> 00:54:49.579
the point where I'm making the kids cakes because

00:54:49.579 --> 00:54:52.800
I do like baking. Nice. But then this year I

00:54:52.800 --> 00:54:54.519
was like, you know what? I'm going to order one

00:54:54.519 --> 00:54:57.079
from King Soopers. Yep. We had it at a playground.

00:54:57.599 --> 00:55:01.650
Fun. We got pizza from Costco and just like the

00:55:01.650 --> 00:55:04.750
only thing that I made was lemonade. Nice. Lloyd

00:55:04.750 --> 00:55:06.730
had been asking for lemonade. Like we don't have

00:55:06.730 --> 00:55:08.909
it very often, but he'd been asking for it. I

00:55:08.909 --> 00:55:11.190
was like, it's your birthday. Of course we can

00:55:11.190 --> 00:55:13.789
have lemonade. I can make that in half an hour

00:55:13.789 --> 00:55:16.380
the night before. Yeah. You know, that's not

00:55:16.380 --> 00:55:19.599
going to like completely take everything. And

00:55:19.599 --> 00:55:23.159
so we had a car, cars themed party. I got a pack,

00:55:23.159 --> 00:55:25.599
a party pack of stuff from Amazon where like

00:55:25.599 --> 00:55:27.460
came with the plates and the napkins and the

00:55:27.460 --> 00:55:29.900
cups and like some, you know, a happy birthday

00:55:29.900 --> 00:55:32.300
banner that had like all the cars on it. And

00:55:32.300 --> 00:55:35.780
then we were joking. Our friends were joking

00:55:35.780 --> 00:55:38.829
because how we had. decided who to invite is

00:55:38.829 --> 00:55:40.929
i literally just asked lloyd yeah it's like who

00:55:40.929 --> 00:55:43.369
do you want on your birthday and he said the

00:55:43.369 --> 00:55:45.650
same six kids consistently so it's your boys

00:55:45.650 --> 00:55:48.429
his cousins and then his friends and so it's

00:55:48.429 --> 00:55:51.130
like always those six kids and then grandparents

00:55:51.130 --> 00:55:53.789
nice and so our other friends were joking they're

00:55:53.789 --> 00:55:55.719
like we got You guys invited us to the family

00:55:55.719 --> 00:55:57.900
party. I was like, no, that's just who we wanted.

00:55:58.039 --> 00:56:01.119
So we kept it small because that's who we wanted

00:56:01.119 --> 00:56:03.840
there. And the kids played in the playground

00:56:03.840 --> 00:56:06.500
and ran around in the grass. And we had pizza

00:56:06.500 --> 00:56:09.380
and cake. And that was it. Love it. It was super

00:56:09.380 --> 00:56:13.679
low key. Less stress on you guys. Yeah. Almost

00:56:13.679 --> 00:56:17.039
no stress on us. It was a little bit annoying

00:56:17.039 --> 00:56:20.099
because we had like. reserved the like pavilion

00:56:20.099 --> 00:56:22.599
for the birthday or like at the playground like

00:56:22.599 --> 00:56:25.099
a month in advance and did not realize it was

00:56:25.099 --> 00:56:27.500
going to be 94 degrees that day but thankfully

00:56:27.500 --> 00:56:31.179
the playground we're at one it's off of a lake

00:56:31.179 --> 00:56:33.239
so there's a little bit of like a breeze okay

00:56:33.239 --> 00:56:35.980
that cools it down and then it's very shaded

00:56:35.980 --> 00:56:39.360
nice so it wasn't as bad as it could have been

00:56:39.360 --> 00:56:42.880
yeah but yeah The kids just like ran around and

00:56:42.880 --> 00:56:46.579
had fun. I love it. And it was low pressure.

00:56:46.880 --> 00:56:48.539
Yeah, I think it was just like one of those things

00:56:48.539 --> 00:56:51.059
where, again, with like the Instagram aesthetic

00:56:51.059 --> 00:56:53.280
of like, because I even had gone on Pinterest

00:56:53.280 --> 00:56:55.780
to be like, car's birthday party ideas. And there

00:56:55.780 --> 00:56:57.820
are so many and they're so fun. It's like, here's

00:56:57.820 --> 00:57:01.880
how you can make a Mac out of cardboard boxes.

00:57:02.420 --> 00:57:05.079
And it's so cool. And I would love to have like

00:57:05.079 --> 00:57:07.719
be able to do that kind of stuff. But then also

00:57:07.719 --> 00:57:10.320
like Lloyd. Literally cared more about the fact

00:57:10.320 --> 00:57:14.159
that he got two cars. Like the cake we got from

00:57:14.159 --> 00:57:15.980
King Soopers was like a cars themed cake. So

00:57:15.980 --> 00:57:18.059
it had like a lightning and a cruise on top.

00:57:18.099 --> 00:57:20.760
Cute. And those were his birthday cars. And if

00:57:20.760 --> 00:57:22.619
that was the only thing we did for his birthday

00:57:22.619 --> 00:57:24.980
was that cake, he would have been thrilled. I

00:57:24.980 --> 00:57:26.920
love it. And yeah, so I think it was just really

00:57:26.920 --> 00:57:30.199
fun to like keep it low key. So like I enjoyed

00:57:30.199 --> 00:57:32.559
it. I think Stuart enjoyed it. Lloyd enjoyed

00:57:32.559 --> 00:57:35.300
it. Yeah. And there wasn't like this pressure

00:57:35.300 --> 00:57:39.510
of let's make it a big production. a big deal,

00:57:39.550 --> 00:57:41.849
even though like, I don't know if you feel that

00:57:41.849 --> 00:57:44.150
pressure, but it feels like you should have this

00:57:44.150 --> 00:57:47.030
like beautiful party that like this Pinterest,

00:57:47.230 --> 00:57:50.969
exactly. Instagram worthy party. Yep. Yeah. Yeah.

00:57:51.110 --> 00:57:53.630
That's so great. I love that. Well, we have,

00:57:53.670 --> 00:57:56.269
yeah. Colt's birthday party in like a week, a

00:57:56.269 --> 00:58:00.329
little, yes. Eight days. And I'm stressed about

00:58:00.329 --> 00:58:03.070
it. I haven't ordered anything for it, so I'll

00:58:03.070 --> 00:58:05.070
keep, I'm going to keep it simple. Yeah. King

00:58:05.070 --> 00:58:08.730
supers. Yeah. It was great. Yeah. Yeah. But that's

00:58:08.730 --> 00:58:11.710
so great. Thanks for tuning in today, guys. Yeah,

00:58:11.789 --> 00:58:15.250
thanks for bearing with us for a month off. And

00:58:15.250 --> 00:58:17.530
hopefully you guys have had a great summer and

00:58:17.530 --> 00:58:20.590
some really good family time and some good memories

00:58:20.590 --> 00:58:24.230
made. And glad you are tuning back in. But we

00:58:24.230 --> 00:58:26.190
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