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Motherhood, where sleep is a rumor and laundry

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is eternal. And somehow, we're supposed to be

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raising tiny humans through it all. We're here

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to laugh at the chaos, cry when necessary, and

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remind you that none of us actually know what

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we're doing. This is No Manual, a momcast. Your

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mom friend group chat, but with microphones.

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Well, welcome back to No Manual, a momcast. This

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week, I don't know if this is the best or the

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worst week for us to record this episode. So

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we're talking about... Kind of like what we miss

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about pre -kids or I don't know if miss is the

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right word. Yeah. Kind of just like that, like

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pre -kids versus post -kids, things that are

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harder now, which I think is like. a little bit

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of a hot topic sometimes. I don't know. This

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is a little bit of a tangent, I guess. But I

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feel like with other things in life, you're like

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allowed to miss, you know, like if you're married,

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you're allowed to miss aspects of being single.

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And it's kind of understandable or that kind

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of stuff. You're allowed to miss your college

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age or college years or whatever. But as soon

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as you're like, I'm a mom. And sometimes I miss

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like not being a mom. It's like, how could you?

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Do you hate your children? Which of course is

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not it. But before we jump into that, Do you

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want to share your mom moment of the week? Yes.

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Okay. So I feel like I've been telling a lot

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of stories about Colt lately and, but Colt is

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just like such, he's just at that age where it's

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like super unpredictable and just so, it's so

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fun. And also, yeah, it can be extra hard too.

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So this last week it was a Wednesday night, which

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is the night that Michael's at youth group. So

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I'm solo parenting. And when we brush teeth at

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night, Like Cruz is in the bathroom. I usually

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just hand him a toothbrush and he's just kind

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of like chewing on it or whatever. And Cole,

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I'm like actually brushing his teeth. And while

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I was brushing his teeth, I was like, Cole, like

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I saw this like trend on Instagram where it's

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like rather than just saying like you're such

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a good boy or like I love being a mom. It's like,

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no, I love being your mom. And so I told him

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that. I was like, Cole, did you know? that I

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love being your mom. And being your mom is the

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best thing in the world. And he stops, looks

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at me, and slaps me across the face. And I said,

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all right, cool. I feel like that is just...

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A description of this week. Yeah. Like we had

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a terrible week. I feel like you also had a not

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great week. Yeah. Yeah. Just extra hard. I don't

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know. Yes. Things are hard. My boss told us that

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Mercury was in retrograde this week, which usually

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I don't like super buy into that stuff. But then

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stuff like this happens where I'm like, my kids

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were absolutely losing it. And so was I. So maybe

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there is like. Or like the full moon thing where

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it's like, oh, it's a full moon. I swear there's

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something with full moons. I've worked with kids

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forever. And anytime there's a full moon, kids

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are crazy. Yeah. I mean, there's scientific proof

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like hospitals, like the ER is like way more

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full when it's a full moon. Yeah. So like something

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about like the moon and the planets for sure

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affect us. I don't know how, but who knows. Yeah.

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But yeah, fun times. Okay. My mom moment is,

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so we're. We're trying to wean Zeta and get her

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on whole milk. Of course, a big part of the problem

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is we don't bottle feed her. She's pretty much

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exclusively breastfed unless she's not with me.

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She's fine taking whole milk from other people

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or when I'm not home, when she's at someone else's

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house. But it's when I'm here and she's with

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me that she's like, absolutely not. But also

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my supply has gone down to the point where she's

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not getting full. So we're like, no, girl, you

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got to start taking the whole milk so you can

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sleep through the night and be satiated, all

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that. But yesterday for nap time, I was like,

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okay, I'm going to try to give her a bottle of

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whole milk and see if she'll take it from me.

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and so like she's in her sleep sack we're all

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snuggling she's on the boppy and i like have

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the bottle and i'm trying to feed it to her and

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she aggressively swats it away like very clear

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she is not taking this bottle and then she points

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to my boob and says have have mom get this out

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of here yes she so there was no questioning what

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she wanted in that moment which like on one hand

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is nice she wasn't just crying she made it very

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clear yeah that she was not taking that dang

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bottle and she was taking the boob and that was

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the only option but just like the sass and it's

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like mom i don't want this i want this stuff

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right off the tap yes i mean i need the good

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good like oh my gosh cruise has this is a tangent

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but So we've had to supplement for him just because

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I ran out of freezer supply. But I've also found

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like he'll sleep a little bit longer of a chunk

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for me at night if I give him a formula bottle

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before bed. And he has started to do the same

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thing where I'm like trying to feed him the formula

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bottle. And I might even be empty. And he's like,

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he swats away the formula bottle and is like

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turning his head into my boob. And I'm like,

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dude, I've got nothing left for you. And he still

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just wants, it's just the comfort. Yeah, that's,

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I think how Zeta is a lot of times is the comfort

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thing. But then she's not getting full. So I'm

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like, girl, you got to start taking this whole

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milk. Oh man. And the other night you had to

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literally feed her solids at 11 or something.

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It was. Yeah. I'm glad we finally figured out

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because this week sleep wise was rough. and she

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would just like wake up screaming and we couldn't

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figure out what it was and we finally were like

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oh we've been starving our child like not obviously

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obviously not on purpose yeah we just like didn't

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know she would just like wake up crying and we'd

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try everything i tried nursing her but then and

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this is part of how i'm like oh my supply must

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be going down she would like lose interest in

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nursing but then i'd like put her in her crib

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and she would still be upset and yeah yeah so

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one night i was just like i'm just gonna try

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to give her a snack and i gave her like a yogurt

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pouch and then she slept through the night so

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she just yeah so we're trying to figure out like

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what to give her before bed to keep her full

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what did you tell me it was like healthy fats

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and healthy fats and protein and protein are

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good for before bed yeah because we all have

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a blood sugar drop around 4 a .m to like prepare

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our body to wake up in the morning but interesting

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and protein and fat helps like stabilize blood

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sugar so if you have like carb and sugar heavy

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snacks, that drop is really drastic and it can

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wake you up because essentially your body's like

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dying. You know, obviously that's not actually

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what it is, but like that's kind of your body

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reaction. So if you have a high protein and high

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fat snack before bed, then you will still have

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a blood sugar drop, but it won't be so, it'll

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be more of how it's intended to be to like help

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your body start to wake up, but not wake you

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up before you. wild so yeah so we tried giving

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her butter before bed last night oh yeah uh it

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did not work dang it we'll try it again because

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yesterday was also like an off day with meals

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and just like how the day went so i'll try it

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again and see if like on a more normal day where

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she's maybe doing better anyways yeah it works

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yeah that's good yeah i've seen that butter trend

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where it's like two two bites of butter or whatever.

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Something like that, yeah. Yeah. We tried to

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do that with Colt when he was little and he legitimately

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threw up. Oh, so that did not work for you. So

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we've not tried that again. Yeah, that makes

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sense. Still hoping he'll sleep through the night,

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but hoping that butter won't have to be the case.

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Okay, so I guess let's hop in and really just

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talk about, like you said, it's such a, not cliche

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thing, but whenever you're... You know, it's

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like the missing something you can't have type

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of situation, which I feel like for me, motherhood

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is exactly what I have wanted for my entire life.

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And then when you're in it, it's extremely hard.

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Most days are hard. Most days bring so much joy.

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But there is part of me that misses. pre -kids

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yeah when i think like so i kind of going back

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to what i said earlier about like you're allowed

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to feel this way for other things stewart and

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i have talked about there are two things that

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we both miss about not being married like two

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very specific things one is Both of us at one

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point lived in a house, like he lived in a house

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with a bunch of guys and I lived in a house with

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a couple of girls. And just like how much fun

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that was. Fun. You know, obviously in very different

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ways. Just a fun stage of life. Yeah, it's a

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fun stage of life. And if I came home to having

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a bad day to a house of girls, very different

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than coming home to my husband. Not bad. You

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know, not that like, I mean, he's amazing. And

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if I have a bad day, I mean, usually he's coming

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home to me having a bad day. But, you know, he'll

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bring me like a sweet tree or, you know. He'll

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try to do something to make it better. But it's

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a very different experience than venting to your

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girlfriends and them being like, let's order

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Chinese food and put on a rom -com or something.

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Even if he did that, it's just not the same experience.

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That doesn't mean it's bad and that doesn't mean

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I don't want to be married. It's just a different

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experience. And then the other thing that we

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both have talked about missing is the very beginning

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of a relationship where it's like you're still

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flirty and everything's new and you don't really

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know this person. you're getting to know them.

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Like that goes away when you're married. And

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it's also nice to have like, Stuart's watched

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me birth two babies now. So like there's a level

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of intimacy that is really nice. That's beautiful

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in its own way, but it's just very different.

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And neither of those things that we miss. means

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that i regret getting married no it's just like

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oh that was a fun part of life that sometimes

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i'm like i wish i could relive that yeah and

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i can and that's okay you know but when you're

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in those stages of life you don't you don't know

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you don't know that you're gonna miss it yeah

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you're gonna look back on that and be like oh

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i really really enjoyed that yeah yeah um and

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i think like being a mom there are definitely

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things once i look back on i'm like oh like i

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miss that aspect of not being a mom of you know

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being a married couple without kids and i in

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no way regret my kids and i love them and i'm

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so glad to be their mom yeah but like yeah there

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are pieces that i miss and when i was preparing

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for this i realized like a lot of the stuff is

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honestly like kind of small like yeah the significance

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of like the big things i'm like no it's so much

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more fun to have christmas with kids you know

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so much it's the big things that make it worth

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it it's the little things i'm like oh i like

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kind of wish i could do that again and i think

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like for me it's like My joy is so much greater

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now with kids. But there are aspects of like

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the little things that, you know, made me happy,

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like sleeping in. Yeah. That's definitely one

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that I like. Yeah. That I just, I miss. Part

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of me wishes I could have maybe like one morning

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a week where it's like, oh, I wake up on my own

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time. There's no alarm. There's no. child waking

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me up and i'm just waking up maybe i'm scrolling

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on my phone for a little bit deciding when i

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want when i want to get out some of the stuff

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too what makes me like miss it and like makes

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me mad about it i guess is i'm like i would be

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such a better mom if i like got to experience

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some of the stuff which i obviously don't yeah

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but then when i was looking at this lists of

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like what are specific things that I'm like I

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maybe miss or wish I could have back sometimes

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I think the hardest part is I love being a mom.

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I wish I had a break from the responsibilities

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of being a mom. Where it's like the baby's screaming

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at 3 a .m. I just want to go back to sleep. I

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don't want to not have kids. I just don't want

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to be the one that has to get up at 3 a .m. to

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take care of the screaming baby. Sleeping is

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definitely one of the things on the list where

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I wish I could wake up on my own terms. sleep

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through the night and not have someone or you

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know if we want to stay up late not be like weighing

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the consequences like okay you know if we stay

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up till midnight so that we can watch this movie

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together or we can go out to do this thing together

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am i going to deeply regret it tomorrow or will

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i just kind of regret it so true so true it's

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yeah i mean obviously like i think we're gonna

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keep saying this like obviously the stage of

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life we're in is so much better than going back

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yeah but there are little pieces like eating

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a warm meal while it's actually warm and i thought

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of one how about not losing your train of thought

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there's one yeah yeah i feel like my attention

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span and i think it's because my mind's like

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thinking about a bajillion different things yeah

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all at once like i don't know if here's an example

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that I swear I go through on the daily. If someone's

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like talking about something from the past year

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and they're like, oh, that happened back in November,

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I legitimately have to sit there, maybe even

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close my eyes and think about what month of the

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year we are currently in or what day of the week

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it is. Most of the time I'm like, I don't even

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know. I sometimes even have to look at my phone.

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I'm like, oh, while we're recording this, it's

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February right now. Oh, it's not actually November

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or. Yeah. I never know when it is. Everything

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kind of blurs together. Yeah. And I just feel

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like my mind is so, maybe spacey is not the word,

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but I just feel like I'm focused on so many things

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all at once that I don't feel fully present in

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one. For sure. Yeah. One area. I feel like I've

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always had a hard time with like being able to

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turn off my brain. If that makes sense, you know,

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where there are times where you're like, hey,

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I don't want to be thinking about a thousand

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things. I want to be present in this moment,

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whatever this moment may be. I feel like I've

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always had a hard time with that. But now even

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more so because I'm like, I have humans that

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I'm keeping alive upstairs. And yeah, there's

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just like another level of pressure. Yes. Yeah.

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And I don't think I realized that pressure until

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like. I don't know if I fully understood that

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pressure until actually being in the pressure

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of it. It's definitely one of those things where,

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you know, before you have kids, people tell you,

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like, your whole life is going to change. And

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you're probably, where do you see it going to

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change? And blah, blah, blah. And you're like,

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yeah, yeah, sure. Like, of course they are. And

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then you feel it. And you're like, oh, no, but,

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like, actually. Yes. The things I care about

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are so different than. Oh, absolutely. Like,

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what I care about the most is the health and

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wellness of my children. And everything else

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falls below that. Where, yeah, like, I don't

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care if I offend you anymore when I tell you

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whatever, because this protects my kids. And

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that is much more important than me offending

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you. Sorry, not sorry. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. Have

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you heard the saying, like, I don't know what

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the saying is. I feel like I'm so bad at quotes

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and sayings, but I know, like, the gist of it.

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Yeah. But, like, that you. What the heck did

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we do with our time before having kids? I wonder

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that all the time. I feel like I was so busy

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pre -kids. My house was always a mess pre -kids.

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Yes. And now I'm like I had so much time. I know.

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How is it a mess? Yeah. Like I just must have

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been the laziest person in the world. That's

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what it feels like. Yeah. But at the time you

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genuinely feel like you didn't have the time

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to do it. I do. One thing I miss actually is

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so. Michael and I both work at a church. Sunday

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afternoons, we would go home and we would both

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take a nap on the couch. That post -church nap?

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It was glorious. And I remember, so we lived

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in an apartment at the time and it was like the

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time of day, the sun would be shining in the

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windows and we have a sectional. And so like

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Michael would be on one section and I'd be on

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the other section. We'd have like a show on or

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if Sunday football was on or whatever. And both

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of us would just be conked out for like. two,

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three hours maybe. And it was glorious. And now

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it's like, if I even think about shutting my

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eyes on a Sunday afternoon, I swear one of my

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kids wakes up immediately. It's like they know.

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They know when I close my eyes. Yeah. I think

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like that's definitely one thing is just like

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being more in control of your schedule, you know,

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where it's like, oh, I want to take a nap right

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now. Or one of the things I realized I missed,

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is being able to take quick trips like i forgot

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to grab milk yep i'm gonna i'm just gonna run

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to the store in the store it'll be uh like with

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where our house is right now i could be to and

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from the store and back in my house in probably

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seven minutes yeah if i like really wanted like

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yeah but like you were like walking at a kind

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of a yeah you know the light across the street

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is on you know green when i pull up and stuff

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like that yeah legitimately i could under 10

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minutes i know the sonic by our house we can

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do like a 10 minute round trip yeah easily but

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now it's like okay give me 15 minutes to get

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the kids in the car right like first i have to

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convince lloyd that like yes we do have to get

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in the car right now and so then it's like it

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feels like it's not worth it to just like go

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to quick trips yeah um so that was one thing

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i realized i miss that's just like such a silly

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thing to be able to you know run and get yourself

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a coffee or you know pick up the groceries that

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you forgot and i don't feel the same about like

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full grocery trips no i like i can handle a full

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grocery trip with the kids not as it doesn't

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feel as big of a deal it's the i just need to

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run it out for one thing yeah um we're like it's

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like you just don't want to you're like it's

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not worth it for one little thing or whatever

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i'm gonna spend more time getting the kids in

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and out of the car than i am yep get going to

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spend time getting whatever I need to pick up.

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Yeah. It's so true. It's so true. Yeah. I, I

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have talked about this many times, but we take

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advantage of target pickup order now because

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that's the only way that I justify like, Oh,

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I just need a couple of things. So I'm going

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to, you know, we'll go run an errand or whatever,

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pick it up on the way home from church. Like

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if we're already out, but getting in and out

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of the car for some things. Just one or two items

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is like, it's so hard. I'll go, I'll go a couple

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of days without milk. It's fine. Yeah. Like make

00:19:03.690 --> 00:19:06.210
Stuart pick it up on his way home. Exactly. Exactly.

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Yeah. Yeah. I think one thing that I miss is

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just the amount of alone time, I guess I could

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have taken advantage of. I'm pretty codependent

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and I, I admit that like Michael would say, I

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feel like we've talked about this before. Yes.

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And ever since Michael and I were dating, like

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I, and we've been dating, we're still dating

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because we're married, but we've known each other

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since 2014. Okay. And so, and once we started

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dating, like, so we did a ministry program together.

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And so we'd see each other every single day.

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We'd be together pretty much from sunup till

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sundown. I think that like created this codependency

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in me. And so when we got married and pre -kids,

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it just like, I'm like, no, let's hang out together

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all the time. Like when you like your spouse.

00:20:01.130 --> 00:20:03.250
Yeah. Like you should want to hang out with your

00:20:03.250 --> 00:20:07.609
spouse. I want to. Yeah. But I think I wish I

00:20:07.609 --> 00:20:10.049
would have maybe taken advantage of a little

00:20:10.049 --> 00:20:13.410
bit more like, oh, well, I'm going to, I don't

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know. I'm going to sit in the sun and read this

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book. Not talk to anybody. And that's the one

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thing else I miss is just like sitting down and

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reading a book and like actually getting to read

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a book for as long as I want to read a book for.

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Yeah. One of the things I put down is being able

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to take care of myself and like a lot of that

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stuff. So before I got pregnant with Lloyd, actually,

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yeah, leading up to when I got pregnant with

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Lloyd, I worked at 7 a .m. from home. And I would

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get up at 5 .45 every morning and walk a mile.

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Oh, wow. And then at the time, that summer, we

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lived in an apartment with a pool. So I would

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get done with work at 3 and pretty much by like

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3 .05, I'd be down by the pool with my book.

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Nice. You know, whatever drink I had and then

00:21:05.140 --> 00:21:07.900
just like read till Stuart got home. And that

00:21:07.900 --> 00:21:11.519
was like every day. So nice. And when I went

00:21:11.519 --> 00:21:14.240
back to work after Lloyd was born, I'm like,

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I'm not waking my baby up at 545 to go on a walk.

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No, absolutely not. So even just like little

00:21:19.140 --> 00:21:21.279
stuff like that where it's like, okay, I would

00:21:21.279 --> 00:21:24.180
still like to go on walks regularly. Like I know

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I'd feel better if I walked a mile every day,

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but when am I going to fit that in? And it's

00:21:29.059 --> 00:21:30.980
so, yeah, it's one of those things too where

00:21:30.980 --> 00:21:32.859
it's like, okay, loading up both kids in the

00:21:32.859 --> 00:21:36.220
stroller or whatever. And I don't know if Lloyd

00:21:36.220 --> 00:21:38.160
is like this, but Colt wants to walk everywhere

00:21:38.160 --> 00:21:42.329
now. And so it depends. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't

00:21:42.329 --> 00:21:45.109
know. And I feel like this podcast makes it sound

00:21:45.109 --> 00:21:48.130
like we don't like big moms, but we really do.

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I promise. I, I'm sure all moms can relate to

00:21:50.930 --> 00:21:52.890
this, but yeah, but I think just like being able

00:21:52.890 --> 00:21:55.390
to take care of yourself. Right. And like, yes.

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How many times, I don't know if this, I'm sure

00:21:58.029 --> 00:21:59.950
this happens to you where you're like, okay,

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tonight kids are going to go down. I'm going

00:22:03.259 --> 00:22:05.380
to like, maybe I'll go crazy. I'll do like a

00:22:05.380 --> 00:22:07.279
mask and read a book or something like that.

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And of course, of course, that's a night where

00:22:10.000 --> 00:22:12.079
no one's going to sleep. And then by the time

00:22:12.079 --> 00:22:14.700
everyone's asleep, it's like nine 30 and you're

00:22:14.700 --> 00:22:17.759
like, well, I just want to, I just want to go

00:22:17.759 --> 00:22:19.759
to sleep or snack, watch a show and go to bed.

00:22:19.839 --> 00:22:22.700
Yeah. The energy that I have to do what I wanted

00:22:22.700 --> 00:22:25.880
to do doesn't exist anymore. Exactly. That's

00:22:25.880 --> 00:22:28.900
my whole thing with like, um, so we're getting

00:22:28.900 --> 00:22:31.640
ready to go on a trip this next week and I've

00:22:31.640 --> 00:22:34.920
already started packing so we we're recording

00:22:34.920 --> 00:22:37.299
today it's saturday right now and we leave this

00:22:37.299 --> 00:22:40.039
next friday and i've already started to pack

00:22:40.039 --> 00:22:43.579
knowing that i'm like i get the motivation at

00:22:43.579 --> 00:22:45.099
night to be like okay i'm gonna get some packing

00:22:45.099 --> 00:22:47.279
done but every night's not gonna work out that

00:22:47.279 --> 00:22:50.839
way where it's like oh i'm actually gonna have

00:22:50.839 --> 00:22:53.319
the time or the energy to actually get stuff

00:22:53.319 --> 00:22:56.079
done for sure but going back to the self -care

00:22:56.079 --> 00:22:59.099
thing that's my like My thing with showering

00:22:59.099 --> 00:23:01.960
is like, so I shower at nighttime, usually after

00:23:01.960 --> 00:23:05.059
the kids go to bed. And at multiple nights, it'll

00:23:05.059 --> 00:23:08.920
be like, okay, I'm showering tonight. Yeah. Try

00:23:08.920 --> 00:23:11.539
to get both kids down. And then it just doesn't

00:23:11.539 --> 00:23:13.200
work out the way you want it to work out. For

00:23:13.200 --> 00:23:15.119
sure. And it's like, okay, push it to the next

00:23:15.119 --> 00:23:18.500
day. And then same thing. Push it to the next

00:23:18.500 --> 00:23:20.680
day. Yeah. And then you're like, oh, no wonder

00:23:20.680 --> 00:23:23.380
I feel like garbage. Actually disgusting. Yeah.

00:23:23.500 --> 00:23:26.470
Yeah. Yeah. I think another thing, speaking of

00:23:26.470 --> 00:23:31.690
packing, is rushing. Like I don't like to rush

00:23:31.690 --> 00:23:33.369
all the time. Like I don't want to constantly

00:23:33.369 --> 00:23:36.089
be in a rush. But there are times when like you

00:23:36.089 --> 00:23:38.890
just are, you know, where like getting ready

00:23:38.890 --> 00:23:41.809
for church. It used to be I could get up like

00:23:41.809 --> 00:23:44.829
20 minutes before I had to leave. And you throw

00:23:44.829 --> 00:23:47.569
on some mascara, put on some deodorant. Yep.

00:23:47.890 --> 00:23:51.630
And then be out the door. And now, I mean, and

00:23:51.630 --> 00:23:54.670
I feel like we do pretty good. i can get up an

00:23:54.670 --> 00:23:56.890
hour before we have to leave yep and get all

00:23:56.890 --> 00:23:59.769
three of us ready to go in that hour just like

00:23:59.769 --> 00:24:02.730
being able to go like i mean it's kind of a lot

00:24:02.730 --> 00:24:04.269
of this has to do with getting in car seats car

00:24:04.269 --> 00:24:06.990
seats are i understand the importance yes car

00:24:06.990 --> 00:24:09.230
seat safety so it's very important i feel that

00:24:09.230 --> 00:24:12.269
but they're just the worst yes yeah we're just

00:24:12.269 --> 00:24:15.609
like oh we need to leave right now and that just

00:24:15.609 --> 00:24:18.269
doesn't exist for a toddler no the right now

00:24:18.269 --> 00:24:23.000
is yeah and so like trying to like get things

00:24:23.000 --> 00:24:27.240
done in like the time that you want it, whether

00:24:27.240 --> 00:24:30.059
it is speedy or not, it's just, it's really hard.

00:24:30.119 --> 00:24:32.799
And that gets so frustrating too. I've seen this

00:24:32.799 --> 00:24:35.660
thing going around where it's like, I want things

00:24:35.660 --> 00:24:39.400
not to be an emergency or like where are the

00:24:39.400 --> 00:24:41.519
aspects of my life that I don't have to rush,

00:24:41.619 --> 00:24:44.759
but I am rushing. So like they give examples

00:24:44.759 --> 00:24:47.619
of like brushing my own teeth. I don't have to

00:24:47.619 --> 00:24:50.660
like brush my teeth like crazy. I can actually

00:24:50.660 --> 00:24:54.000
maybe take a minute and brush my teeth at a normal

00:24:54.000 --> 00:24:57.200
pace and things like that. I mean, when you're

00:24:57.200 --> 00:24:58.920
on a time crunch, obviously like getting into

00:24:58.920 --> 00:25:01.480
the car seats and stuff, I feel like those are

00:25:01.480 --> 00:25:03.460
the things that raise like my blood pressure

00:25:03.460 --> 00:25:06.319
or like my anxiety is like, all right, come on,

00:25:06.339 --> 00:25:08.640
let's go. We got to go. We got to go. And, and

00:25:08.640 --> 00:25:11.980
Colt's like, like, Oh, look at this. this toy

00:25:11.980 --> 00:25:14.279
i want to play with this toy and i'm like nobody

00:25:14.279 --> 00:25:16.680
come on we gotta go gotta go can i take both

00:25:16.680 --> 00:25:19.400
cars into the car with me like no pick one yeah

00:25:19.400 --> 00:25:22.420
huh which which toy do i take in the car yeah

00:25:22.420 --> 00:25:25.740
yeah colt's whole new thing is like which i really

00:25:25.740 --> 00:25:28.000
appreciate is he wants to put his own shoes on

00:25:28.000 --> 00:25:30.940
and we haven't gotten there quite yet most of

00:25:30.940 --> 00:25:33.720
the time they're on the wrong feet which is fine

00:25:33.720 --> 00:25:35.960
and i'll mention to him like hey buddy they're

00:25:35.960 --> 00:25:37.259
on the wrong feet do you want to switch them

00:25:37.259 --> 00:25:39.519
and sometimes he wants to switch them sometimes

00:25:39.519 --> 00:25:41.539
he doesn't but then it becomes the whole thing

00:25:41.539 --> 00:25:45.099
and if I try to help him at all then it's like

00:25:45.099 --> 00:25:49.319
game over I've lost yeah we're not going anywhere

00:25:49.319 --> 00:25:52.779
for 10 -15 minutes because this is a whole big

00:25:52.779 --> 00:25:56.299
thing and then my blood pressure rises and then

00:25:56.299 --> 00:25:59.039
it's like yeah then it's an emergency and a rush

00:25:59.039 --> 00:26:02.960
to get out of the house or wherever we are all

00:26:02.960 --> 00:26:07.900
that to say I miss the like yeah the slower pace

00:26:07.900 --> 00:26:11.569
of I don't know not rushing like you said yeah

00:26:11.569 --> 00:26:14.009
yeah yeah like you can rush when you need to

00:26:14.009 --> 00:26:16.970
but like everything isn't a rush yeah where like

00:26:16.970 --> 00:26:18.650
I guess yeah that's kind of how it feels with

00:26:18.650 --> 00:26:20.910
little kids is you're like everything is a rush

00:26:20.910 --> 00:26:24.750
because everything just takes longer yeah and

00:26:24.750 --> 00:26:28.509
that's really hard yeah another thing that I

00:26:28.509 --> 00:26:31.569
miss is like the spontaneity of things I have

00:26:31.569 --> 00:26:34.970
that too do you yeah and just even the simplest

00:26:34.970 --> 00:26:37.049
things where it's like should we do this today

00:26:37.049 --> 00:26:39.789
or Should we go grocery shopping right now or

00:26:39.789 --> 00:26:41.670
should we – Should we do that tomorrow? Do you

00:26:41.670 --> 00:26:44.029
want to go to the movies or – Yeah. Yeah. I know

00:26:44.029 --> 00:26:46.910
there's one story. Stuart and I had been married

00:26:46.910 --> 00:26:51.029
for like probably less than a year. And he was

00:26:51.029 --> 00:26:53.869
at work and one of us texted the other and was

00:26:53.869 --> 00:26:55.509
like, hey, do you want to go to a ball game tonight?

00:26:56.329 --> 00:27:00.089
And I think we called up like another young married

00:27:00.089 --> 00:27:02.410
couple we knew. They had only been married a

00:27:02.410 --> 00:27:05.390
couple months. And we bought tickets like five

00:27:05.390 --> 00:27:08.099
hours before the game. So fun. In Colorado for

00:27:08.099 --> 00:27:09.859
the Rockies, that's when you want to buy tickets

00:27:09.859 --> 00:27:12.940
because we got like amazing tickets for super,

00:27:13.039 --> 00:27:15.119
super cheap. Yep. Now you could probably get

00:27:15.119 --> 00:27:17.460
super cheap tickets. No matter what. Yeah, because

00:27:17.460 --> 00:27:19.319
they're terrible. But yeah, we bought tickets

00:27:19.319 --> 00:27:21.960
like five hours before the game. We took the

00:27:21.960 --> 00:27:25.460
bus downtown. So fun. Got hot dogs. We stayed

00:27:25.460 --> 00:27:29.779
out till like 1 a .m. And no part of that could

00:27:29.779 --> 00:27:33.819
we do now because even if like we're pretty lucky

00:27:33.819 --> 00:27:36.839
in that. We probably could get one of our parents

00:27:36.839 --> 00:27:39.339
to babysit last minute. But that's still just,

00:27:39.400 --> 00:27:42.799
like, an added step of, like, is this worth even

00:27:42.799 --> 00:27:44.539
thinking about? Like, it's kind of rude to ask

00:27:44.539 --> 00:27:47.019
you last minute. Anyways, like, I don't want

00:27:47.019 --> 00:27:50.279
to be that way. The prep, like, going into it

00:27:50.279 --> 00:27:52.799
is, like, okay. making sure kids have dinner,

00:27:52.960 --> 00:27:56.019
prep, jammies, like what do they need for bedtime?

00:27:56.259 --> 00:27:57.819
And then like, I don't want to be staying out

00:27:57.819 --> 00:28:00.160
till 1 a .m. So then is this game even worth

00:28:00.160 --> 00:28:01.599
it? If we're going to, you know, are we going

00:28:01.599 --> 00:28:03.880
to have to leave midway through? Yeah. And like

00:28:03.880 --> 00:28:06.000
that moment in that day was so much fun because

00:28:06.000 --> 00:28:08.220
it was just like so spontaneous and like, let's

00:28:08.220 --> 00:28:11.539
just go. Or yeah, even stuff like, I don't want

00:28:11.539 --> 00:28:13.140
to cook tonight. Let's go out to dinner. Okay.

00:28:13.420 --> 00:28:15.859
You know, we do that sometimes now, but usually

00:28:15.859 --> 00:28:18.039
it's like, let's get McDonald's. Yeah, exactly.

00:28:18.119 --> 00:28:19.880
I was going to say ours is Chick -fil -A. So

00:28:19.880 --> 00:28:22.079
then they can play. Or we're going to bring it

00:28:22.079 --> 00:28:25.059
back home because it's easier to strap you into

00:28:25.059 --> 00:28:27.119
your booster seat than to try to do with you

00:28:27.119 --> 00:28:29.960
at a restaurant. Absolutely. So yeah, spontaneity

00:28:29.960 --> 00:28:33.119
is definitely a big one. Yeah, I feel that for

00:28:33.119 --> 00:28:36.299
sure. One of the things that I realized is sick

00:28:36.299 --> 00:28:38.660
days, like actually being able to take a sick

00:28:38.660 --> 00:28:41.180
day. Yeah, you just had one of those. So this

00:28:41.180 --> 00:28:45.039
week I was like, this was God's timing or something

00:28:45.039 --> 00:28:48.210
like that. So Zeta got... a stomach bug a week

00:28:48.210 --> 00:28:51.289
ago and then i got it two days later and it just

00:28:51.289 --> 00:28:53.750
happened to be the day that my parents already

00:28:53.750 --> 00:28:56.670
take the kids so i like actually took a sick

00:28:56.670 --> 00:28:59.690
day i called into work and then my parents still

00:28:59.690 --> 00:29:01.890
took the kids and i just laid on the couch all

00:29:01.890 --> 00:29:05.289
day and tried not to throw up yeah it's not like

00:29:05.289 --> 00:29:07.349
it was an enjoyable time but the fact that you

00:29:07.349 --> 00:29:11.529
didn't have i yeah i wasn't thinking about I've

00:29:11.529 --> 00:29:13.230
been trying to make someone else a meal while

00:29:13.230 --> 00:29:16.369
I'm trying not to throw up. That's such a random

00:29:16.369 --> 00:29:19.430
one that you would never... Pre -having kids,

00:29:19.509 --> 00:29:23.230
I don't think I could ever think about the value

00:29:23.230 --> 00:29:26.630
of not having to take care of anyone while you're

00:29:26.630 --> 00:29:30.089
sick. And not feeling guilty about it, too. That's

00:29:30.089 --> 00:29:32.549
the other side of it. Anytime I feel like I'm...

00:29:32.549 --> 00:29:34.829
I feel like we've been sick a lot this year,

00:29:34.930 --> 00:29:37.490
but I feel like I haven't had too many sick days

00:29:37.490 --> 00:29:39.980
where I'm like... oh, I just really need to lay

00:29:39.980 --> 00:29:44.740
down. And when I do have that, I feel almost

00:29:44.740 --> 00:29:48.960
guilty in the fact that I feel that terrible

00:29:48.960 --> 00:29:53.200
that I have to go lay down. Usually I just try

00:29:53.200 --> 00:29:57.319
to power through, which makes it worse for everybody.

00:29:57.480 --> 00:30:01.380
But there's the guilt aspect. I guess that's

00:30:01.380 --> 00:30:05.619
another thing that maybe I miss is not having

00:30:05.619 --> 00:30:09.640
that mom guilt. over you, especially with like,

00:30:09.740 --> 00:30:12.599
I would say one of the biggest things I feel

00:30:12.599 --> 00:30:16.259
right now with working from home is that I'm

00:30:16.259 --> 00:30:19.400
like not good enough in any area. Like, yeah,

00:30:19.460 --> 00:30:23.359
I might be thriving in motherhood in a week,

00:30:23.440 --> 00:30:25.819
but then I feel like a terrible employee and

00:30:25.819 --> 00:30:29.700
vice versa. And that was just, I didn't work

00:30:29.700 --> 00:30:32.599
from home a ton before kids, like maybe the occasional

00:30:32.599 --> 00:30:35.500
day, but there was not really ever a day where

00:30:35.500 --> 00:30:38.480
I was like, Man, I just like I feel like a terrible

00:30:38.480 --> 00:30:41.599
employee today. Yeah. Because my attention was

00:30:41.599 --> 00:30:45.420
not on my work or whatever. Or so I did work

00:30:45.420 --> 00:30:50.279
from home beforehand. And I already think there's

00:30:50.279 --> 00:30:52.859
like a level of working from home where because

00:30:52.859 --> 00:30:56.970
of. people on TikTok who like, whether they're

00:30:56.970 --> 00:30:59.970
doing it satirically or not, they're like, oh,

00:30:59.990 --> 00:31:01.690
me working from home and it's them getting their

00:31:01.690 --> 00:31:03.890
nails done and doing stuff that's not their job.

00:31:04.009 --> 00:31:05.730
Like there's this pressure of working from home

00:31:05.730 --> 00:31:07.569
where you're like, I swear to God, I'm doing

00:31:07.569 --> 00:31:10.849
my job. But then for me, I'm like, I feel like

00:31:10.849 --> 00:31:13.109
I have to work 10 times harder because I need

00:31:13.109 --> 00:31:15.650
to, I want to make sure that there's never a

00:31:15.650 --> 00:31:18.809
doubt that my kids are impeding on my job performance.

00:31:18.930 --> 00:31:20.490
And I don't want that to every reason you can

00:31:20.490 --> 00:31:24.309
fire me. Yep. So true. Yeah. So I feel like when

00:31:24.309 --> 00:31:25.990
you work for, at least for me, when I worked

00:31:25.990 --> 00:31:28.289
from home full time, there was already this kind

00:31:28.289 --> 00:31:31.490
of like, I swear I'm not like this TikToker who's

00:31:31.490 --> 00:31:34.890
just like not working. Like I am actually doing

00:31:34.890 --> 00:31:37.789
my job. Like you can see like my performance,

00:31:37.890 --> 00:31:39.750
blah, blah, blah. But then now with kids, there's

00:31:39.750 --> 00:31:42.869
definitely that like added pressure of, I swear,

00:31:42.930 --> 00:31:46.029
like I'm working hard. I'm doing my best. I know.

00:31:46.130 --> 00:31:48.869
And it's hard. Cause I'm like, I don't necessarily

00:31:48.869 --> 00:31:52.079
know how to prove that other than like, the output

00:31:52.079 --> 00:31:55.400
that yeah yeah it's definitely that guilt is

00:31:55.400 --> 00:31:58.839
kind of like in all areas yeah absolutely oh

00:31:58.839 --> 00:32:02.660
another one is being able to dress myself and

00:32:02.660 --> 00:32:04.579
I mean this in like a couple of ways because

00:32:04.579 --> 00:32:06.480
like obviously and we've talked about this before

00:32:06.480 --> 00:32:09.240
there's like the actual physical changes of your

00:32:09.240 --> 00:32:10.960
body where it's like oh clothes don't fit the

00:32:10.960 --> 00:32:13.140
way that they used to or you know I've had to

00:32:13.140 --> 00:32:15.259
buy all new jeans or there's that part of it

00:32:15.259 --> 00:32:18.740
but there's also this aspect of like practicality

00:32:18.740 --> 00:32:21.319
that I didn't need to used to have You know,

00:32:21.400 --> 00:32:25.099
like I didn't need to use to make sure that my

00:32:25.099 --> 00:32:27.539
pants were stretchy enough that I could like

00:32:27.539 --> 00:32:29.420
get down on the floor with my toddler. So true.

00:32:29.819 --> 00:32:32.859
Or right now we're weaning Zeta off, but for

00:32:32.859 --> 00:32:35.519
basically two and a half years straight, I've

00:32:35.519 --> 00:32:38.099
been breastfeeding. So I guess, I mean, there's

00:32:38.099 --> 00:32:39.420
a little bit of a break when I was pregnant with

00:32:39.420 --> 00:32:42.069
Zeta and Lloyd wasn't breastfeeding, but. now

00:32:42.069 --> 00:32:43.809
for almost three and a half years, I've either

00:32:43.809 --> 00:32:46.329
been pregnant or breastfeeding, which means my

00:32:46.329 --> 00:32:48.950
wardrobe has to adjust to that in some capacity.

00:32:49.089 --> 00:32:51.230
It's like, you need a shirt that you can like

00:32:51.230 --> 00:32:53.509
have easy boob access so you can feed your baby

00:32:53.509 --> 00:32:56.730
in public, you know? So I think there's like

00:32:56.730 --> 00:32:59.730
this practicality aspect of dressing as a mom

00:32:59.730 --> 00:33:03.670
that I was not prepared for, even though like

00:33:03.670 --> 00:33:05.829
I babysat and stuff like that and know that.

00:33:06.210 --> 00:33:10.359
Yeah. Or when I think of like outfits that I

00:33:10.359 --> 00:33:12.279
used to like wear and feel confident in. I'm

00:33:12.279 --> 00:33:15.619
like, even if that fit now, I wouldn't be able

00:33:15.619 --> 00:33:20.289
to wear it because like I can't be. the mom that

00:33:20.289 --> 00:33:22.410
i you know i can't be running after my kid and

00:33:22.410 --> 00:33:25.369
you know doing these things but then i also still

00:33:25.369 --> 00:33:28.589
want to look cute i know and i can't afford a

00:33:28.589 --> 00:33:31.450
stylist to just like come in and revamp my wardrobe

00:33:31.450 --> 00:33:34.809
and make sure i have all the you know you always

00:33:34.809 --> 00:33:37.069
get the targeted ads that are like well you could

00:33:37.069 --> 00:33:39.849
just spend 150 a month and we'll send you clothes

00:33:39.849 --> 00:33:43.740
you're like i've been tempted so many times what's

00:33:43.740 --> 00:33:45.480
the whole like getting your colors done have

00:33:45.480 --> 00:33:48.319
you seen that i have yeah yeah i want to do that

00:33:48.319 --> 00:33:52.019
so badly and apparently like chat gpt can help

00:33:52.019 --> 00:33:54.480
you do it but anytime i've done an online one

00:33:54.480 --> 00:33:56.640
it always tells me to wear pastels and i'm like

00:33:56.640 --> 00:33:58.900
nope absolutely not yeah see i'm afraid it'll

00:33:58.900 --> 00:34:01.160
tell me to wear like super bright colors yeah

00:34:01.160 --> 00:34:03.119
and it always tells me not to wear black and

00:34:03.119 --> 00:34:04.839
i'm like nope you're like That's the majority

00:34:04.839 --> 00:34:07.400
of my wardrobe. This is something I feel confident

00:34:07.400 --> 00:34:11.480
in. So yeah, that's definitely one. But oh, I

00:34:11.480 --> 00:34:14.039
feel that for sure. The whole like, what bra

00:34:14.039 --> 00:34:16.039
am I wearing today? Oh, I got to make sure it

00:34:16.039 --> 00:34:19.320
clicks off, you know? Right. And yeah. Yeah.

00:34:19.320 --> 00:34:21.159
Like last night, Stuart and I went on a date

00:34:21.159 --> 00:34:23.659
night. So I wore a non -nursing bra. But then

00:34:23.659 --> 00:34:26.000
Zeta got home and I was like, oh, I need to nurse

00:34:26.000 --> 00:34:28.900
you. And you're like, this is inconvenient. Yeah.

00:34:29.139 --> 00:34:31.559
There's a reason nursing bras exist. Yep. No,

00:34:31.760 --> 00:34:35.199
I feel that. On Tuesdays and Thursdays when I

00:34:35.199 --> 00:34:37.280
do go to work, I'm like, I still wear my nursing

00:34:37.280 --> 00:34:40.400
bra so I can pump. It's things like that where

00:34:40.400 --> 00:34:44.539
I'm like, it's just I feel not as cute as I maybe

00:34:44.539 --> 00:34:47.599
did before. Feeling cute and feeling confident

00:34:47.599 --> 00:34:49.960
is the last thing on the priority list, which

00:34:49.960 --> 00:34:51.820
then kind of sucks when it comes, again, back

00:34:51.820 --> 00:34:53.860
to the self -care thing where you're like, well,

00:34:53.940 --> 00:34:56.519
I want to feel like a human and I want to feel

00:34:56.519 --> 00:35:00.079
like someone. who's not just a mom and like feel

00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:03.159
confident in my own skin in my own body but then

00:35:03.159 --> 00:35:06.079
this like one part that I've always been able

00:35:06.079 --> 00:35:08.719
to rely on of how I dress myself and dressing

00:35:08.719 --> 00:35:12.139
myself to feel good I like can't really do that

00:35:12.139 --> 00:35:15.179
yeah at least not in the way I used to yeah and

00:35:15.179 --> 00:35:17.800
I also don't have time to figure it out no so

00:35:17.800 --> 00:35:19.360
I just kind of wear the same thing every day

00:35:19.360 --> 00:35:22.050
exactly I feel like There's probably like 10

00:35:22.050 --> 00:35:25.210
shirts that kind of are on rotation for me. Just

00:35:25.210 --> 00:35:27.389
because they're like easy choices. I know they

00:35:27.389 --> 00:35:31.110
work for like most days. Like work from home

00:35:31.110 --> 00:35:33.710
days, I'm like usually in a lounge set of some

00:35:33.710 --> 00:35:37.889
sort. And like it's just the same kind of outfits

00:35:37.889 --> 00:35:40.570
week to week, which is fine. If you leave the

00:35:40.570 --> 00:35:42.230
house, it's a baggy t -shirt and jeans. Yeah,

00:35:42.230 --> 00:35:45.389
honestly. It's like it's fine. It works for this

00:35:45.389 --> 00:35:50.869
season. I try not to complain. I feel like I'm

00:35:50.869 --> 00:35:54.170
putting in as much effort as I can at this stage

00:35:54.170 --> 00:35:58.789
of life. And I guess it just, it is what it is

00:35:58.789 --> 00:36:02.190
right now. And ultimately like, yeah, the joy,

00:36:02.409 --> 00:36:04.670
I talked about this before, like the joy I'm

00:36:04.670 --> 00:36:09.820
feeling now is so much more apparent. has increased

00:36:09.820 --> 00:36:12.800
tremendously since having kids but it is those

00:36:12.800 --> 00:36:15.579
little things that like yeah and maybe I just

00:36:15.579 --> 00:36:17.920
miss them a little bit yeah and I think it's

00:36:17.920 --> 00:36:19.920
hard because you like kind of have to take those

00:36:19.920 --> 00:36:23.559
thoughts so captive sometimes and like just not

00:36:23.559 --> 00:36:26.679
let them run away yeah where again we're like

00:36:26.679 --> 00:36:28.760
kind of going back to what I was talking about

00:36:28.760 --> 00:36:31.239
with you know Stuart and I and things we missed

00:36:31.239 --> 00:36:34.320
before marriage where like okay yeah like flirting

00:36:34.320 --> 00:36:36.579
with someone in a new relationship super fun

00:36:37.559 --> 00:36:40.900
and if you wanted to like as a married person

00:36:40.900 --> 00:36:43.280
you could let yourself like go down that path

00:36:43.280 --> 00:36:46.380
and then an affair starts yeah right and so you

00:36:46.380 --> 00:36:50.000
have to go oh yeah i do miss that okay moving

00:36:50.000 --> 00:36:52.239
on yeah i think there's a lot of those things

00:36:52.239 --> 00:36:55.219
as a mom too or like obviously you can't really

00:36:55.219 --> 00:36:59.539
just like not do things yeah but uh yeah were

00:36:59.539 --> 00:37:03.139
you to not like go into this victim spiral i

00:37:03.139 --> 00:37:06.199
guess um which is super easy to do yeah we're

00:37:06.199 --> 00:37:09.019
like wow i you know wish i was sleeping at night

00:37:09.019 --> 00:37:12.880
you're like okay yeah i do but i'm not so i just

00:37:12.880 --> 00:37:17.420
have to like go about my day and if i focus on

00:37:17.420 --> 00:37:19.400
that then it's gonna make my whole life miserable

00:37:19.400 --> 00:37:22.159
yeah and it's gonna make me resent my kids or

00:37:22.159 --> 00:37:25.599
whatever which i don't want to do yeah that's

00:37:25.599 --> 00:37:30.190
so true yeah i always feel a bit guilty because

00:37:30.190 --> 00:37:33.070
I mean, we wanted a family for so long. So when

00:37:33.070 --> 00:37:35.369
I do start to spiral or I like start to feel

00:37:35.369 --> 00:37:38.909
bad for myself or whatever, I try to like get

00:37:38.909 --> 00:37:42.130
back into the mindset of like, no, this is, you're

00:37:42.130 --> 00:37:45.489
literally living the life that you prayed for

00:37:45.489 --> 00:37:47.670
for so long and that you've desired for your

00:37:47.670 --> 00:37:51.239
entire life. And yeah, like. I never thought

00:37:51.239 --> 00:37:52.960
it was going to be all rainbows and butterflies

00:37:52.960 --> 00:37:56.699
all the time. And I knew there would be aspects

00:37:56.699 --> 00:38:00.139
of pre -kids that I would, of course, that I

00:38:00.139 --> 00:38:03.460
would miss or whatever. But yeah, that mindset

00:38:03.460 --> 00:38:07.039
shift is so important for me on the days that

00:38:07.039 --> 00:38:09.500
are extra hard or the days that I start to feel

00:38:09.500 --> 00:38:13.159
bad for myself that I can't go hang out with

00:38:13.159 --> 00:38:19.179
friends spontaneously or whatever. I have to

00:38:19.179 --> 00:38:21.059
just kind of shift my mindset. And that's the

00:38:21.059 --> 00:38:25.059
only way that I can remember the joy that I'm

00:38:25.059 --> 00:38:29.179
living in. It's especially easy to go down those

00:38:29.179 --> 00:38:31.820
kind of rabbit holes on hard days again. We both

00:38:31.820 --> 00:38:33.920
had really rough weeks, so it's really easy on

00:38:33.920 --> 00:38:37.260
a day when your kids are literally throwing their

00:38:37.260 --> 00:38:39.699
food all over the house and everyone's screaming

00:38:39.699 --> 00:38:44.340
and crying to just really desperately want things

00:38:44.340 --> 00:38:48.619
to be different. And, yeah, to have to remind

00:38:48.619 --> 00:38:51.380
yourself, like, no, this is good. Like, even

00:38:51.380 --> 00:38:53.559
though today isn't good and this moment isn't

00:38:53.559 --> 00:38:56.119
good, overall this is really good. It really

00:38:56.119 --> 00:38:58.800
is, yeah. Do you have any more that you want

00:38:58.800 --> 00:39:01.920
to add? The only other thing I had is to, like,

00:39:01.980 --> 00:39:04.360
this kind of puts a bow on this, I guess. I saw

00:39:04.360 --> 00:39:07.039
a clip this week, which was funny that this came

00:39:07.039 --> 00:39:10.000
up this week as we were preparing, of a mom saying,

00:39:10.199 --> 00:39:12.699
and, like, this is me being kind of judgy, so

00:39:12.699 --> 00:39:15.639
sorry. But it was – because I hope her kids never

00:39:15.639 --> 00:39:17.980
see this because if I heard my mom say this,

00:39:18.079 --> 00:39:20.219
I think I would be devastated. Oh, gosh. She

00:39:20.219 --> 00:39:22.280
said, I don't regret having my kids. I love my

00:39:22.280 --> 00:39:24.179
kids. I don't regret having my kids. But if I

00:39:24.179 --> 00:39:25.739
got to the end of my life and got to start over,

00:39:25.820 --> 00:39:28.860
I wouldn't have kids again. Oh, my gosh. And

00:39:28.860 --> 00:39:31.300
I just remember sitting there – again, as a child

00:39:31.300 --> 00:39:33.659
of a mom, I think if I ever heard my mom say

00:39:33.659 --> 00:39:36.300
that, I would spiral and be devastated. Yes.

00:39:36.420 --> 00:39:39.059
But as a mom, I'm like, oh, I can't relate at

00:39:39.059 --> 00:39:41.500
all. Did you like go and read the – comments

00:39:41.500 --> 00:39:43.900
or anything like that oh it was on a tv show

00:39:43.900 --> 00:39:47.679
okay yeah so yes i haven't seen like if anyone

00:39:47.679 --> 00:39:49.699
has responded to i'm sure there are comments

00:39:49.699 --> 00:39:51.960
online about it a reality tv show it was on love

00:39:51.960 --> 00:39:55.940
is blind yes okay yeah like hearing her say that

00:39:55.940 --> 00:39:59.989
i was like i cannot relate no at all at all like

00:39:59.989 --> 00:40:02.309
yes there are days when i miss not being a mom

00:40:02.309 --> 00:40:04.989
and there are days when i miss like aspects again

00:40:04.989 --> 00:40:07.590
like a lot of things we've talked about and just

00:40:07.590 --> 00:40:09.670
like not being responsible for another person

00:40:09.670 --> 00:40:12.710
yeah yeah but my kids have brought so much joy

00:40:12.710 --> 00:40:15.409
to my life and again this week was really rough

00:40:15.409 --> 00:40:18.510
like i think sewer came home to me at least in

00:40:18.510 --> 00:40:20.789
tears if not like or at least close to tears

00:40:20.789 --> 00:40:23.360
if not in tears more than once this week and

00:40:23.360 --> 00:40:26.159
i know i definitely was like not the mom that

00:40:26.159 --> 00:40:29.699
i want to be yeah but like even after weeks like

00:40:29.699 --> 00:40:32.840
this there's like the the joy that they bring

00:40:32.840 --> 00:40:35.599
and the amount of like purpose that having kids

00:40:35.599 --> 00:40:38.699
has brought i'm like no like if i get to the

00:40:38.699 --> 00:40:41.619
end of my life and i'm starting over like absolutely

00:40:41.619 --> 00:40:44.989
having kids again absolutely and Like, do we

00:40:44.989 --> 00:40:47.449
have kids sooner? I don't know. I know. No, I

00:40:47.449 --> 00:40:51.110
know. Yeah. I 100 % feel that. And I feel so

00:40:51.110 --> 00:40:53.690
bad for that woman's kids. Yeah. I mean, they

00:40:53.690 --> 00:40:56.250
were little kids. So like right now, I don't

00:40:56.250 --> 00:40:58.590
think they would register it. No. But that's

00:40:58.590 --> 00:41:01.110
sad. I don't know. That's really sad. And I hope

00:41:01.110 --> 00:41:03.409
that those of you that are listening to this,

00:41:03.449 --> 00:41:05.630
like, yeah, I feel like you can relate to this,

00:41:05.670 --> 00:41:09.510
but also feel like you don't regret having kids

00:41:09.510 --> 00:41:12.050
and that they actually bring you the biggest

00:41:12.050 --> 00:41:14.849
joy. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. That's our biggest

00:41:14.849 --> 00:41:18.769
hope for you. And yeah, I don't know. Let us

00:41:18.769 --> 00:41:22.610
know what, what maybe you miss about pre -kids

00:41:22.610 --> 00:41:25.769
and yeah, we'll put like a question box up on

00:41:25.769 --> 00:41:29.250
Instagram and we'd love to hear what you guys

00:41:29.250 --> 00:41:32.329
miss. Maybe some, some different things that

00:41:32.329 --> 00:41:34.849
we've maybe didn't hit on. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sure

00:41:34.849 --> 00:41:37.150
everyone has slightly different things. Oh yeah.

00:41:37.210 --> 00:41:41.949
Yes. Okay. Should we hop into our wins of the

00:41:41.949 --> 00:41:46.530
week? So this maybe kind of goes with this. Today,

00:41:46.650 --> 00:41:51.150
so Zeta got up. Lloyd was gone overnight. He

00:41:51.150 --> 00:41:53.929
spent the night with grandparents. And then this

00:41:53.929 --> 00:41:56.510
morning, Zeta was up at 6 a .m., of course. Love

00:41:56.510 --> 00:41:59.289
that. But Stuart grabbed her and he let me sleep

00:41:59.289 --> 00:42:02.329
till almost 8. Oh, nice. And I'm like, I don't

00:42:02.329 --> 00:42:04.070
know the last time I did that. That's amazing.

00:42:04.269 --> 00:42:07.110
And then we went out for breakfast and he was

00:42:07.110 --> 00:42:09.969
like, wow, you're in such a good mood. This is

00:42:09.969 --> 00:42:13.239
what happens when I get some sleep. and i get

00:42:13.239 --> 00:42:16.400
some good breakfast that's so good it was just

00:42:16.400 --> 00:42:19.880
it was like so refreshing and i think especially

00:42:19.880 --> 00:42:21.420
after like a really tough week where it's like

00:42:21.420 --> 00:42:24.619
i just needed like to recharge a little bit even

00:42:24.619 --> 00:42:27.199
if it was just you know an extra couple hours

00:42:27.199 --> 00:42:30.000
of sleep and yeah not to have to make and clean

00:42:30.000 --> 00:42:34.039
up breakfast and that's so nice i wasn't just

00:42:34.039 --> 00:42:36.460
sleeping in and having a good breakfast good

00:42:36.460 --> 00:42:40.940
okay my win is like it's super simple but I feel

00:42:40.940 --> 00:42:44.639
like there was like just a shift one day. So

00:42:44.639 --> 00:42:47.699
Colt has been, I mean, he's been kind of into

00:42:47.699 --> 00:42:50.800
art a little bit and painting and coloring and

00:42:50.800 --> 00:42:53.159
stuff. And I feel like literally in the last

00:42:53.159 --> 00:42:55.519
week or so, it's just like shifted where now

00:42:55.519 --> 00:42:57.760
he starts to try to like color in the lines.

00:42:58.260 --> 00:43:01.039
Where it's like rather than just like all over

00:43:01.039 --> 00:43:03.199
the page he's coloring, he's like seeing the

00:43:03.199 --> 00:43:06.000
objects on the page and like trying. Like obviously

00:43:06.000 --> 00:43:08.250
it's not. Right. He's still doing that. Yeah.

00:43:08.349 --> 00:43:11.150
And it's like full fist around the crayon. Love

00:43:11.150 --> 00:43:14.190
it. But he's like trying to color the objects

00:43:14.190 --> 00:43:16.269
now. That's so fun. And I just think that's so

00:43:16.269 --> 00:43:18.989
cute because he's so focused and is just like.

00:43:19.289 --> 00:43:21.710
I love a little kid being focused on something.

00:43:21.949 --> 00:43:22.530
It's keeping his attention. Yeah. He's like got

00:43:22.530 --> 00:43:24.349
his face super close to the paper. Does he do

00:43:24.349 --> 00:43:27.230
the tongue thing? He doesn't. No. Lloyd does

00:43:27.230 --> 00:43:29.389
the tongue thing. That's so cute. When he's focused,

00:43:29.489 --> 00:43:32.110
he sticks out his tongue. That's so cute. No,

00:43:32.190 --> 00:43:33.710
he doesn't do the tongue thing, but it's just

00:43:33.710 --> 00:43:37.429
like. the attention span has kind of like grown

00:43:37.429 --> 00:43:41.170
a little bit and he's just like focused on one

00:43:41.170 --> 00:43:43.889
task and and it's so fun to see the things that

00:43:43.889 --> 00:43:47.409
like capture that focus too yeah like lloyd is

00:43:47.409 --> 00:43:49.349
not really interested in coloring yeah sometimes

00:43:49.349 --> 00:43:51.809
we'll pull it out but there are other things

00:43:51.809 --> 00:43:53.949
that i'm like oh you could focus on that for

00:43:53.949 --> 00:43:58.829
hours yeah and it's yeah just to see their personalities

00:43:58.829 --> 00:44:00.610
and the things that matter and the things that

00:44:00.610 --> 00:44:03.250
like do capture their attention is so much fun

00:44:03.250 --> 00:44:06.030
i love it because so now i like in our kitchen

00:44:07.130 --> 00:44:09.730
I like did a little, it was actually my nursing

00:44:09.730 --> 00:44:11.750
cart that I'm like, oh, I don't really need this

00:44:11.750 --> 00:44:13.909
anymore. So we turn it into an art cart. That's

00:44:13.909 --> 00:44:15.690
fun. So now it's got all his art supplies on

00:44:15.690 --> 00:44:17.909
it in the kitchen. So then he can just pull out

00:44:17.909 --> 00:44:20.469
whatever he wants whenever. But it's art and

00:44:20.469 --> 00:44:23.610
then magnet tiles for him that can like capture

00:44:23.610 --> 00:44:26.269
his attention for a little bit. And I love that

00:44:26.269 --> 00:44:29.789
he's just so creative and it's just super fun

00:44:29.789 --> 00:44:33.429
to watch his little mind grow. And I just, yeah,

00:44:33.530 --> 00:44:36.340
I cannot believe that. I mean, we have two and

00:44:36.340 --> 00:44:38.559
a half year olds that. I know. Like you're going

00:44:38.559 --> 00:44:41.219
to be three this year. It's crazy. I hate it.

00:44:41.260 --> 00:44:43.760
It's going by too fast. And it's so fun. Yeah,

00:44:43.800 --> 00:44:46.320
it's so fun. Well, thanks for tuning in today,

00:44:46.400 --> 00:44:49.500
guys. Yeah, let us know what you miss in your

00:44:49.500 --> 00:44:53.860
old life pre -kids. But we'll see you guys next

00:44:53.860 --> 00:44:56.840
week. See you next week. Well, that's enough

00:44:56.840 --> 00:44:59.440
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00:45:04.309 --> 00:45:05.989
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00:45:06.150 --> 00:45:08.710
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00:45:08.710 --> 00:45:12.210
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00:45:12.610 --> 00:45:31.699
At least we can laugh about it together. Chocolate

00:45:31.699 --> 00:45:33.179
chip cookie. That's so cute.
