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motherhood where sleep is a rumor and laundry

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is eternal and somehow we're supposed to be raising

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tiny humans through it all we're here to laugh

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at the chaos cry when necessary and remind you

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that none of us actually know what we're doing

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this is no manual a mom cast your mom friend

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group chat but with microphones. Welcome back

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to No Manual on MomCast. Today we're going to

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just have a fun Christmas episode. It's Christmas

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season. We're both super excited for Christmas.

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And actually before we like really get started.

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We will, after this episode, we're going to have

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two weeks off. So we'll have the week of Christmas

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off and the week of New Year's off for, you know,

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we obviously want to celebrate with our families.

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Yeah. You guys are probably celebrating with

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your families and not listening to podcasts anyways.

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I hope so. So, yeah, so we'll have two weeks

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off, 22nd and the 30th of December. We will not

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have episodes. But before that, we're just going

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to talk Christmas and things we're excited for

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this year, traditions, all that. Do you want

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to start with your mom moment? I would love to.

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So this last week, we went to the church while

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Michael was doing youth group. And I posted this

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on Instagram. So Colt was playing on the playground,

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and he... It was great. We were having a great

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time. He wanted me to go up in the playground

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with him. So I did. Michael was holding Cruz.

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And there's like these poles inside the playground.

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They're like padded poles. It's like an old school

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play place. Yeah. Yeah. And it wasn't even that

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hard. But Colt like tripped into the pole and

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just like hit his head on the pole. And like

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the sound that it made, it was like a solid bonk.

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Like a cartoon. Yeah. And I knew right when I

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heard that, I was like, oh my gosh, he's going

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to start bleeding. He's going to be bleeding.

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And I look at him and he's not bleeding. And

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then I look and he chipped his tooth so badly.

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Like his front tooth is literally like half a

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tooth now. And he like, he cried for maybe 30

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seconds and then was totally fine. Of course.

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Of course. And I like, I don't know why this

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is affecting me so much, but like, it's just

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his baby tooth. It's whatever. But the fact that

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his smile changed in like an instant, it makes

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me so sad because I'm like, I will never see

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his smile again with his, his like beautiful

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teeth. And now he's just got like this dagger

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of a tooth that like it's so sharp right now.

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I saw the picture. It looks gnarly. Yeah. And

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it just like made me so sad. And I know it's

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not that big of a deal. But so I ended up calling

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the dentist because I was like, I. What are we

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supposed to do? Yeah. Do we need to come like

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get this like filed down? Do you need to look

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at it? And it's not like bothering Colt at all.

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Like because anytime. I don't know. Anytime you

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have a cavity or whatever, it's like you take

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a drink of water and it's like sensitive. Right.

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So we were nervous about that. But he doesn't

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seem to have any like weird sensations like that

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or anything. And he's eating fine. The one thing

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I'm really worried about is like if he falls

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again and is like he like hits his tooth on his

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lip. It's just going to break the whole tooth.

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Yeah. Either break the tooth or cut his lip open

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because of how sharp it is. And so I called the

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dentist and the dentist was like, let's just

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kind of like see what happens. Cause a lot of

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the times, like the tooth ends up dying. So it's

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going to turn like, yeah, you have to pull it

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out. So I'm like, if we have to do that, he's

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going to be two years old with no tooth. He's

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probably not going to even get his adult tooth

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until he's like six or seven. And then he's just

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for years. I mean, it'll be super cute. It'll

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be cute, but. gosh it I don't know why it's like

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making me so sad and it's really not that big

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of a deal he does not care at all but I do I

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feel like I'm like when parent other parents

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see my child and he smiles and he has just this

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like chip tooth that they're gonna be like oh

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they live in the trailer park and you know just

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but it's not the case but I just I yeah I don't

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know It makes me sad. I think once we were going

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out to California this week and I'm like, I think

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I will make a dentist appointment when we get

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back to at least get it filed down a little bit.

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Cause it is so sharp. That makes sense. Yeah.

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So that's a fun moment. Yeah. And of course I

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was blaming myself of like, of course. Yeah.

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Why did we even go to youth group that night?

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I shouldn't have let him play on the playground

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for then. Like, yep. That's always how it goes.

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Yep. How about you? Mine is that Zeta's going

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through the worst sleep regression. So terrible.

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It's so rough. I think she's learning a bunch

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of things. So she, she's been like army crawling

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for a while now, but she's finally just like

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getting up on her knees and crawling. She's pulling

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herself up. Actually, this is a side tangent,

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but I'm going to say it anyways. She had her

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nine month appointment and we like filled out

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the questionnaire of her development and she

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was doing great with everything except for gross

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motor skills. And they're like, we expect that

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she should be like pulling herself up and cruising

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right now. Okay. And she's not. Um, and my doctor

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was like, you know, we're not worried right now.

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she's doing really great if by like 11 months

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she's not doing these things call us because

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we just want to make sure like yeah nothing's

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going on yep i kid you not that afternoon she

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was like oh i can pull myself up now i can do

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it so she just needed to hear that she's supposed

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to be doing this i guess we like well now i gotta

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call the doctor yeah i was like do i take a video

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and send this to him and like so this literally

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just happened yeah but anyways yeah she's just

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learning all the things like yeah so i think

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that's what's causing it but it's also any sleep

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regressions that's affecting like literally everything

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it's so terrible she's fighting naps and then

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she takes short naps it's like the other day

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it took me half an hour to get her down for a

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nap that lasted half an hour and then i like

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couldn't get her back to sleep so it's like that

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That almost felt worthless. Yes. And then since

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her and Lloyd share a room frequently, she's

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waking him up from naps. So then everyone's overtired

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and mad. She is fighting bedtime. She's waking

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up more at night. Frequently at night. Not every

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time. But when she wakes up, she's also having

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a harder time going back down. It's not just

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like, okay, nurse, and then back to sleep. Because

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that, like... I don't like waking up multiple

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times a night, but if that's the case, like,

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I can deal. It's the, like, trying to get her

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back to sleep when she's, like, doesn't want

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to. Yeah. She's waking up at 6 a .m. pretty much

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every single day. Yeah. Which means I have, like,

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most days the kids wake. up at like 7 or 7 30

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and I wake up at like 6 or 6 30 so then I have

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like a couple minutes a little bit of time like

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especially on a work day yeah like to just like

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get my day started get my work day started have

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like 30 seconds to just like breathe and like

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prepare but it's like nope I'm like in my pajamas

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I'm not even haven't even brushed my teeth and

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she's wide awake and I'm trying to get her up

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so she doesn't wake Lloyd up so that way hopefully

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only one kid's overtired instead of two that's

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so tough with the sharing the room Like that's

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such a beneficial thing. I think you'll see in

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like a year from now. And when it's going, like

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for them sharing a room, when it goes well, it

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goes really well. Like they seem to like sharing

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a room. And I think it does generally help her

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sleep, help both of them sleep better to like

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be close to their sibling. But it's just when

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one of them wakes up upset, it wakes up the other

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one and then it's a disaster. it's just it's

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a rough super fun hopefully it will be a quick

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sleep regression and yeah you guys can get back

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to sleep yeah and also i don't get naps no that's

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the hardest part like if i could take naps then

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maybe it'd be okay but then and then i always

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feel super guilty when i'm frustrated that she

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won't sleep yeah i'm like i just need like i

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need to catch up on my emails uh -huh i know

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that's so tough it's like you're literally holding

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a baby and typing emails with one hand yep i've

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done that many times yeah and i'm like i could

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type this so much faster if i could just set

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you down for a second yep ah these are the good

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old days we're gonna miss them yeah okay so um

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this is our fun christmas episode yeah um talking

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about christmas traditions what are some like

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maybe traditions that you grew up with that you

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want to implement into into your kids childhood

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So we always decorated for Christmas on Black

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Friday. Fun. And that's something that we're

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going to continue. And I know I always felt like

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it was such a fun day decorating for Christmas.

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Did you guys do anything else along with it?

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Like Christmas music in the background? Yeah.

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So it was like the first day we'd do Christmas

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music. And we had speakers. We had like a living

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room and a family room. And we had speakers in

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both so we could play music throughout the whole

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house. Which also I feel like makes it sound

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like I grew up super rich for that being like

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the 90s. But that's not the case. But the speakers

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could play the same song. So yeah, we would like

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put on Christmas music throughout the house.

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And then since we had two living spaces, we also

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had two trees. So we had one that was like, we

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called it my mom's tree. But that was because

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that's where like all the breakable ornaments

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pretty much went. And it was like white lights

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and... Kind of like the prettier tree, I guess.

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And then the one in the living room was like

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the family tree. So it was colored lights and

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it was all the ornaments. All the kids ornaments.

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Yeah. All the like, you know, the ones that you

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make and the ones that we get every year that

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are like kind of funny. And that's where the

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presents would end up too. Nice. But yeah, I

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remember decorating for Christmas just being

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like. an event and so fun um and so i want that

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to be a thing right now it's i feel like the

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first few years it's just kind of stressful because

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it's just like stewart and i while also trying

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to manage kids yes um like maybe when they're

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like three four yeah like the traditions will

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kind of like yeah they like start to care about

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these yeah yeah so that's like a big one for

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us or like one of the things that i remember

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most i guess is like yep that was super fun yeah

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And that's something I definitely want to continue

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is like, I love that. What about you guys? So

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one that I grew up with, I think I've talked

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about it before. So we would always all sleep

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in the same room on Christmas Eve. I don't think

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we're going to do that this year. I still feel

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like my kids are too young to really do that.

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But as they get older, I love this idea because

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it was like, in my parents' mind, it was we all

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had to stay in the same room because. because

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they didn't want us to go out of the room early

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and open up all the gifts. And that was like

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the idea behind it. But it was really like just

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a special, like we all got to sleep in the same

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room and we were all excited for Santa to come.

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I feel like there's so many traditions that like

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as a parent, like as a kid, you're like, oh my

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gosh, this is so fun. And then now as a parent,

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I'm like, oh, I see. There was actually a hidden

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message in this. Pizza Friday was because you

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couldn't manage to think or cook. Yeah. Got it.

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That wasn't just a fun tradition. Yes. Yeah.

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But then as a kid, you're like, this was so,

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so special. It really was. And each year, so

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it was. Me and I have three siblings, but we

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would trade off who got to sleep in my parents'

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bed. So it was me and my sister one year, and

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then my brothers would be on the ground, and

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then the opposite year we would flip, and then

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it would be my brothers. And then my mom and

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my stepdad would basically just guard the bedroom

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door so they'd be on the ground just making sure

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we didn't go out. So that was always super fun.

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And then another thing we did, so we would always

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do like cookie decorating. And we still do this

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like as a big family. But we would, yeah, do

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cookie decorating. And we would, honestly, we

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would probably do it like two weeks before Christmas.

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I know. And like all the frosting and everything.

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And then those were the cookies we'd leave out

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for Santa. Okay. Which. It's so gross because

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those cookies were probably so stale by then.

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But it's fun because last year was like the first

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year that Colt got to do that with us as a family.

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And now when we go back to California again for

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Christmas, we'll get to do that all as a family

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again. And that's just, it's super fun to see

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him like, I don't know, start to pick up on these

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traditions a little bit. The last few years,

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this isn't like an old tradition, but. my mom,

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my mother -in -law, me and my sister -in -law

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have gotten together and we don't decorate cookies,

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but we all like come with our own cookie dough.

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And so we like tell each other what we're going

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to make. So we don't have all the same cookies.

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And it's like, someone makes like peppermint

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chip cookies and someone makes sugar cookies

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or whatever. Um, and then we all just like get

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together and bake them. That's fun. So it's not

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decorating, but it's kind of just like, and then

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we like trade cookies. So we all have like a

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little bit of each kind. Yes. So that's fun.

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That's super fun. Yeah, I am excited. I'm really

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excited because I feel like this year, like,

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Cole is kind of, like, starting to catch on.

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Like, oh, Christmas. Like, we just decorated

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for Christmas. We're recording this a little

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bit early. But, yeah, we just decorated for Christmas.

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And, like, he walked down the stairs one morning

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and it was all decorated because I did it at

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night. And he was like, Christmas. And I was

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like, oh. this year's gonna be so fun like doing

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like i want to go um look at christmas sites

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yeah maybe do like um in denver they have like

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a polar express train that you can like go on

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and like experience the polar express and i'm

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like maybe we'll do that like i'm just excited

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to do the christmas activities and like i think

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it will be so much more fun to kind of like view

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it from like the lens like through his eyes and

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like we get to make it magical for them. Yeah.

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So fun. That is so fun. Like what was the thing

00:14:35.840 --> 00:14:39.059
we said today? He was like, Oh, he was like having

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a tantrum in the store. And, um, so we like went

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out to the car and then he has like this play

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phone and Michael like pretended to call someone

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and was like, Oh hello Santa. Oh yeah. Colt's

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on the naughty list right now. And I was like,

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Oh my gosh, this is. This is fun for me to like

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start to, I don't know, see Christmas in a different

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light with kids now again. Yeah. Do you have

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any traditions that you like want to start or

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like maybe you've already kind of started? No,

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I don't think we've necessarily started anything.

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I think it's harder because there's so many like

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things that my family would do like either the

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night. you know day before christmas or day of

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christmas and now like we're pretty much we go

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and we travel for so we're like we're with our

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families but we're not doing like necessarily

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christmas with just like the four of us um we

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probably will do something like a few days before

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we travel out but yeah i i honestly haven't thought

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that one through a lot of what i want to start

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but i think we will as as time goes on Yeah.

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What about you guys? So we do matching pajamas.

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Oh, yes. Okay. Yeah. Which also Old Navy is the

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only place to go for that. Yeah. Partially because

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every other time I've looked someplace in the

00:16:02.159 --> 00:16:05.980
Old Navy for like one pair of pajamas, it's the

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same price as getting the whole family's pajamas.

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Yeah. Like I can get everyone's pajamas for like

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40 bucks or something like that. And then it's

00:16:12.639 --> 00:16:16.009
like 70 or something. Why is it $75 for a pair

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of pajamas, a pair of baby pajamas? So that's

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a fun one. And then we actually do Christmas

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early. So for us, and this started before we

00:16:26.769 --> 00:16:30.350
had kids, our families get together on Christmas.

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Like my parents and Stuart's parents usually

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get together on Christmas. And we also like split.

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So it's like. Christmas day we spend the morning

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with my parents usually sometime in the afternoon

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with Stuart's family and then the evening everyone

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gets together for dinner oh nice and we love

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that and it's super fun but we're like we also

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want to do something just our family so what

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we started doing is starting is we do Christmas

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the day before so it's like oh nice the 23rd

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is like our Christmas Eve where we open pajamas

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and like maybe watch a movie or something and

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then the 24th we like like get up and do the

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whole Christmas thing with presents and some

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kind of sugary breakfast. Like last year we did

00:17:11.440 --> 00:17:13.960
cinnamon rolls. My mom usually makes monkey bread.

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So that's one of the things that we've done is

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like, okay, we know that Christmas day is going

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to be crazy and we're going to be seeing lots

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of family. So we're going to like carve out this

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time for just you guys. Yeah. Where it's less

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rushed and we can just like have fun and play

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with new toys and stuff like that. That's so

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special. One of my favorite things was, like,

00:17:33.180 --> 00:17:35.519
the slow mornings at home. Like, after presents

00:17:35.519 --> 00:17:39.160
were opened. Yeah. Everyone's in a little bit

00:17:39.160 --> 00:17:42.000
of a sugar coma. Yeah. And we were all just,

00:17:42.119 --> 00:17:44.339
like, as kids, we were just, like, playing with

00:17:44.339 --> 00:17:45.940
the new toys. And, like, we were all playing

00:17:45.940 --> 00:17:48.119
with different things. And that just was so fun.

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The hard part for us, like, that we're still

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trying to navigate is both Michael and I work

00:17:52.940 --> 00:17:55.380
in the church. Right. And so, like, Christmas

00:17:55.380 --> 00:17:59.380
Eve services. are a big thing. And so like this,

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this year we have six Christmas Eve services.

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They're not on Christmas Eve, but they're the

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weekend before Christmas. Yeah. And so like.

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that is just a super busy season. And I feel

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like we can't be as present with our family.

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Like it's, we're present with our family, but

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we're at church and like our kids are in kids'

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men for six services. Like it's crazy. It's crazy.

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And so I really, I do need to look at the calendar

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cause it is so special. Like just having the,

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that like Christmas morning experience with just

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like just us. And I, I want to carve out that

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time. Yeah. Like last year you left Christmas

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services to get on a plane. Yes. Yes. Yeah. So

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you're probably doing something similar. Yeah.

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Thankfully we're like, so Christmas Eve services

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are on the 19th, 20th and 21st this year. And

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then we are flying out the 22nd. Okay. So Monday,

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but I'm like, okay, we could do Christmas on

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like the. 18th or something like that but that

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feels so like that's like a week yeah yeah and

00:19:02.819 --> 00:19:05.640
so i don't know we'll or you can do it you could

00:19:05.640 --> 00:19:08.720
do like three kings day what's that it's january

00:19:08.720 --> 00:19:13.599
6th it's a pretty traditional thing in like catholic

00:19:13.599 --> 00:19:17.359
culture so it's supposedly like the day that

00:19:17.359 --> 00:19:20.480
the wise men showed up to jesus or something

00:19:20.480 --> 00:19:22.839
okay yeah yeah um i think it's where the tradition

00:19:22.839 --> 00:19:24.819
they actually didn't travel there in a day it

00:19:24.819 --> 00:19:28.440
took them yeah yeah so it's supposed to be like

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kind of celebrating that and i know in places

00:19:32.440 --> 00:19:36.549
like italy where there's a very like high catholic

00:19:36.549 --> 00:19:38.650
catholicism is very impactful in the culture

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yeah like everything shuts down yeah but people

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like this is one thing about america is like

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it's like christmas is the 25th and then it's

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gone kind of where i know in a lot of places

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in europe specifically christmas is celebrated

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until three kings oh wow yeah and yeah so you

00:19:56.170 --> 00:19:58.750
can do like that that's fun i know yeah because

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i'm like the thing is is With us living in a

00:20:01.990 --> 00:20:03.769
different state, a lot of family will, like,

00:20:03.769 --> 00:20:07.049
mail us presents for the boys. Right. And so,

00:20:07.130 --> 00:20:10.390
like, I already have, like, a hidden pile somewhere

00:20:10.390 --> 00:20:13.130
of presents that I need to wrap. And I don't

00:20:13.130 --> 00:20:14.829
know. Yeah, I don't know how we're going to do

00:20:14.829 --> 00:20:17.170
it exactly. But we do, like, we'll do the matching

00:20:17.170 --> 00:20:20.130
pajamas, but we do that in California. The other

00:20:20.130 --> 00:20:21.910
thing that's super fun that Michael's family

00:20:21.910 --> 00:20:25.299
grew up doing that now we. do all together is

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pizza and elf so we we all get matching pajamas

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so the entire family has matching pajamas we

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eat pizza and we watch elf and that's like the

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extent of it and it's so fun everyone looks forward

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to every year and that was like a youth group

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event that michael grew up doing and then they

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would like pause the movie halfway through and

00:20:47.579 --> 00:20:51.680
eat the spaghetti that buddy eats with all the

00:20:51.680 --> 00:20:55.200
candy and yuckiness, which it's not surprisingly

00:20:55.200 --> 00:20:57.299
not as terrible as you would think. It's just

00:20:57.299 --> 00:20:59.960
like, it's just, yeah, it's plain noodles and

00:20:59.960 --> 00:21:03.779
then just like chocolate syrup. Yeah. Marshmallows,

00:21:03.799 --> 00:21:08.619
M &M's, blah, blah, blah. And so he grew up doing

00:21:08.619 --> 00:21:10.420
that event. And then I think his family just

00:21:10.420 --> 00:21:13.500
like kind of started doing it too. And so that's

00:21:13.500 --> 00:21:16.380
a fun thing that fun tradition that will continue

00:21:16.380 --> 00:21:20.220
on. One that I've seen that. I think we're going

00:21:20.220 --> 00:21:23.259
to start it this year is called Christmas Eve

00:21:23.259 --> 00:21:27.579
boxes where you just wrap like, so we'll do pajamas

00:21:27.579 --> 00:21:31.119
this year. We'll each kid will get a like Christmas

00:21:31.119 --> 00:21:34.240
book. So we have the Grinch for Lloyd and then

00:21:34.240 --> 00:21:36.859
good night Christmas for Zeta. And then some

00:21:36.859 --> 00:21:39.220
of the other things I've seen as like ideas for

00:21:39.220 --> 00:21:41.730
Christmas Eve boxes is like. a movie to watch

00:21:41.730 --> 00:21:43.970
as a family and like a special snack or something

00:21:43.970 --> 00:21:45.849
like that. So that's like something to do on

00:21:45.849 --> 00:21:48.150
Christmas Eve. I love that. Um, since we don't

00:21:48.150 --> 00:21:50.390
really do a ton of movies with the kids yet,

00:21:50.450 --> 00:21:53.150
we'll probably won't do that this year. Um, but

00:21:53.150 --> 00:21:54.849
like in the future, I'm sure we'll do something

00:21:54.849 --> 00:21:57.369
like that. Um, so they have something to open

00:21:57.369 --> 00:21:59.190
on Christmas Eve and then they can, you know,

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open their pajamas and put them on. And then

00:22:01.210 --> 00:22:04.410
we have, we'll have special books to read. Yeah.

00:22:04.549 --> 00:22:05.890
That's really, I think we're going to start doing

00:22:05.890 --> 00:22:08.529
that this year. Cause yeah, I think. you already

00:22:08.529 --> 00:22:10.809
mentioned this with Cole or like this is the

00:22:10.809 --> 00:22:13.130
first year I think Lloyd understands what's going

00:22:13.130 --> 00:22:15.910
on. Like last year he was happy to be around

00:22:15.910 --> 00:22:18.309
his family. Yeah. And he was like definitely

00:22:18.309 --> 00:22:20.670
excited about his new toys, but not in the same

00:22:20.670 --> 00:22:22.809
way that he will be this year. Maybe a little

00:22:22.809 --> 00:22:25.990
more overstimulated than anything. Exactly. Yeah.

00:22:26.049 --> 00:22:30.009
Yeah. I am. I don't know entirely how we're going

00:22:30.009 --> 00:22:32.769
to do this, but I, I think being a Christian,

00:22:32.789 --> 00:22:37.329
like Jesus is obviously. the reason for christmas

00:22:37.329 --> 00:22:40.569
like the birth of jesus and i want to make sure

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that my kids grew up like focusing on that rather

00:22:44.150 --> 00:22:48.009
than the presence and like yes the presence and

00:22:48.009 --> 00:22:51.250
the family time is also great and important why

00:22:51.250 --> 00:22:53.890
do we do that but why are we why are we here

00:22:53.890 --> 00:22:56.289
why like what is the what is the reason for the

00:22:56.289 --> 00:23:01.839
season yeah but yeah i think like just like verbalizing

00:23:01.839 --> 00:23:06.019
it more often and making sure that my kids know

00:23:06.019 --> 00:23:08.740
that and know why we are celebrating is really

00:23:08.740 --> 00:23:11.900
important. Um, I've seen families do like birthday

00:23:11.900 --> 00:23:14.619
cakes for Jesus on Christmas. I think that's

00:23:14.619 --> 00:23:18.680
really cute. Yeah. Yeah. Um, this is like kind

00:23:18.680 --> 00:23:21.140
of, it's controversial for some people. I think

00:23:21.140 --> 00:23:24.279
we're not doing Santa and it was a little bit

00:23:24.279 --> 00:23:26.740
of a debate between Stuart and I and partially

00:23:26.740 --> 00:23:29.319
cause like we had The reason he wanted to do

00:23:29.319 --> 00:23:32.440
Santa, I didn't. The reasons he wanted to and

00:23:32.440 --> 00:23:34.460
the reasons I didn't, we could, like, kind of

00:23:34.460 --> 00:23:36.579
figure out how to make it work. Yeah. So far,

00:23:36.660 --> 00:23:37.900
we're kind of like, we're just not going to do

00:23:37.900 --> 00:23:40.140
it. So for Stuart, he's like, I don't want our

00:23:40.140 --> 00:23:41.960
kids to be the kid that ruins it for other people.

00:23:42.099 --> 00:23:44.420
Yeah. Like, that's totally fair. That's true.

00:23:44.680 --> 00:23:46.640
So we're still trying to figure out how to navigate

00:23:46.640 --> 00:23:50.420
that. But also, like, I have a friend who grew

00:23:50.420 --> 00:23:53.720
up and they didn't do Santa. And she was like,

00:23:53.799 --> 00:23:56.029
no, it was literally like. The whole thing is

00:23:56.029 --> 00:23:58.369
like, you know, Santa and Satan have the same

00:23:58.369 --> 00:24:00.730
letters, like that extreme. And I'm like, no,

00:24:00.789 --> 00:24:03.990
no, no, we're not doing that. Like for us, I

00:24:03.990 --> 00:24:05.509
think we're going to be like, Santa's a character.

00:24:05.529 --> 00:24:07.950
Like we watch the Santa Claus and we watch Elf

00:24:07.950 --> 00:24:10.029
and we, you know, well, like he's a character

00:24:10.029 --> 00:24:11.990
and some people pretend he's real and that's

00:24:11.990 --> 00:24:13.849
okay. Yeah. So I think we're going to try to

00:24:13.849 --> 00:24:16.980
like go that route and be like, hey. People pretend

00:24:16.980 --> 00:24:18.759
he's real, and that's totally fine if they do.

00:24:19.299 --> 00:24:21.240
And then the other thing for Stuart is, like,

00:24:21.279 --> 00:24:23.880
I want Christmas to be magical. Yeah. And that's

00:24:23.880 --> 00:24:26.799
one thing I remember as a kid is coming down,

00:24:26.900 --> 00:24:29.460
like, going up to bed on Christmas Eve, and there

00:24:29.460 --> 00:24:31.160
was, like, some presents under the tree. And

00:24:31.160 --> 00:24:32.880
it was, like, presents I wrapped and, like, you

00:24:32.880 --> 00:24:34.420
know, presents for Grandma and Grandpa or whatever.

00:24:34.680 --> 00:24:37.160
And then coming down, and it felt like there

00:24:37.160 --> 00:24:40.200
was just a thousand presents. Yes. You know,

00:24:40.200 --> 00:24:43.640
not that there always was. um but but in your

00:24:43.640 --> 00:24:46.140
head you went to bed with just very little and

00:24:46.140 --> 00:24:49.160
then wake up with yeah so i think so much more

00:24:49.160 --> 00:24:50.779
even though we're not doing like the traditional

00:24:50.779 --> 00:24:53.339
santa thing that's one thing we're also doing

00:24:53.339 --> 00:24:55.559
this year is we're not going to put any of their

00:24:55.559 --> 00:24:59.599
presents under the tree until like our christmas

00:24:59.599 --> 00:25:01.900
eve and they go to bed so then when lloyd comes

00:25:01.900 --> 00:25:04.539
downstairs it's like a magical experience where

00:25:04.539 --> 00:25:07.000
did all these things come from that's so fun

00:25:07.000 --> 00:25:10.039
um but then yeah so for the reasons not to do

00:25:10.039 --> 00:25:12.509
santa for me A big part of it is I'm like, I

00:25:12.509 --> 00:25:15.410
want to focus on like Jesus is more important

00:25:15.410 --> 00:25:18.089
than Santa. I've also heard lots of horror stories

00:25:18.089 --> 00:25:21.710
of people finding out Santa isn't real. And then

00:25:21.710 --> 00:25:24.049
this is like, I don't know if this is a weird

00:25:24.049 --> 00:25:26.750
one or not, but no offense to anyone who does

00:25:26.750 --> 00:25:28.390
Elf on the Shelf. I know lots of people do Elf

00:25:28.390 --> 00:25:30.329
on the Shelf. I can't, I can't do it. I think

00:25:30.329 --> 00:25:32.710
Elf on the Shelf is super creepy. Yeah. I have

00:25:32.710 --> 00:25:34.630
friends who like their family gets so much joy

00:25:34.630 --> 00:25:36.230
from it. If your family gets joy from it, I'm

00:25:36.230 --> 00:25:37.690
so happy for you. It just seems like a lot of

00:25:37.690 --> 00:25:41.000
work. It seems like a lot of work. The doll itself,

00:25:41.180 --> 00:25:44.660
honestly, I think is super creepy. Have you seen

00:25:44.660 --> 00:25:46.880
Snoop on a stoop, though? Yes, that's really

00:25:46.880 --> 00:25:52.480
funny. Snoop Dogg, everybody. Yes. But the other

00:25:52.480 --> 00:25:56.660
part of it for me is gifts aren't earned. That's

00:25:56.660 --> 00:25:59.059
a reward. Rewards are great, but they're their

00:25:59.059 --> 00:26:01.579
own thing. So I'm like, I want to try really

00:26:01.579 --> 00:26:05.440
hard that, like. Gifts are something special

00:26:05.440 --> 00:26:07.359
that you're given just because of who you are.

00:26:07.440 --> 00:26:10.220
Yeah. Not because you were a good kid or not.

00:26:11.039 --> 00:26:14.940
And again, like going back to the Jesus piece

00:26:14.940 --> 00:26:17.339
of it is like, that's why we have Jesus. Like

00:26:17.339 --> 00:26:21.279
we didn't do anything. He came just because of

00:26:21.279 --> 00:26:24.839
who we are. And again, rewards are great. Like

00:26:24.839 --> 00:26:27.680
there's time and place for rewards. But yeah,

00:26:27.759 --> 00:26:29.059
so I'm like, I don't want to treat Christmas

00:26:29.059 --> 00:26:31.180
gifts like a reward. Yeah. And I know that also

00:26:31.180 --> 00:26:35.009
puts a lot of burden on me. Because it is like

00:26:35.009 --> 00:26:37.769
super easy to be like, we're canceling Christmas

00:26:37.769 --> 00:26:40.470
when someone's not behaving. Yeah. So I'm like,

00:26:40.509 --> 00:26:42.289
I do know that like this is easier said than

00:26:42.289 --> 00:26:45.069
done to be like, I have to also actually go with

00:26:45.069 --> 00:26:47.910
it and be like, okay, we're not threatening taking

00:26:47.910 --> 00:26:49.829
away Christmas because that's not how this works.

00:26:50.190 --> 00:26:52.250
But I want them to know like the true meaning

00:26:52.250 --> 00:26:54.069
of gifts of like if someone gives you a gift,

00:26:54.130 --> 00:26:56.089
like honestly, you don't have to give anything

00:26:56.089 --> 00:26:57.910
in return. Like you should be grateful. You should

00:26:57.910 --> 00:27:01.089
say thank you. But like. gifts are freely given

00:27:01.089 --> 00:27:03.470
and anyone who's like, I gave that to you and

00:27:03.470 --> 00:27:05.029
then they're expecting something in return. That's

00:27:05.029 --> 00:27:07.009
not a gift. That's not how that works. Yeah.

00:27:07.269 --> 00:27:09.730
That's a really good perspective. So I just,

00:27:09.809 --> 00:27:13.769
I remember, so my family, um, was very, very,

00:27:13.769 --> 00:27:18.490
very big into Santa, at least my mom and stepdad

00:27:18.490 --> 00:27:20.869
and all of our, we would come out in the morning

00:27:20.869 --> 00:27:23.210
and all of the Santa gifts would be like, they

00:27:23.210 --> 00:27:25.589
would not be wrapped. So you knew that it was

00:27:25.589 --> 00:27:28.339
from Santa. And so it was usually the bigger

00:27:28.339 --> 00:27:32.579
things. So like a bike or a guitar or, you know,

00:27:32.579 --> 00:27:35.920
but I just, I remember like you have to be so

00:27:35.920 --> 00:27:40.180
selfless almost in a sense of like knowing that

00:27:40.180 --> 00:27:42.859
your kids are not going to thank you for the

00:27:42.859 --> 00:27:46.440
gift. That is true. Yeah. And I like after, you

00:27:46.440 --> 00:27:48.460
know, when I found out Santa wasn't real, I cried.

00:27:48.640 --> 00:27:51.519
Do you remember how it went down? Yeah. I remember

00:27:51.519 --> 00:27:54.369
asking like. All of my siblings are older, so

00:27:54.369 --> 00:27:58.170
I remember asking them – or not asking them.

00:27:58.210 --> 00:28:00.869
They all knew that he was not real, and they

00:28:00.869 --> 00:28:04.269
were told to, like, keep pretending for me, for

00:28:04.269 --> 00:28:08.009
my sake. And I remember, like, it was for a while

00:28:08.009 --> 00:28:10.829
that I was like, oh, I don't think Santa's real.

00:28:11.740 --> 00:28:14.319
But I was like too afraid to ask because I didn't

00:28:14.319 --> 00:28:16.839
want to find out the truth because I felt like

00:28:16.839 --> 00:28:19.779
it would ruin the magic for me. Yeah. But I remember

00:28:19.779 --> 00:28:21.839
like laying, I was laying in my bed and my mom

00:28:21.839 --> 00:28:23.599
was like tucking me in one night or something.

00:28:23.599 --> 00:28:25.759
And I was like, mom, is Santa real? She's like,

00:28:25.839 --> 00:28:30.299
honey. and then like tells me and then i just

00:28:30.299 --> 00:28:33.160
remember crying oh and it was like such a sad

00:28:33.160 --> 00:28:36.900
thing oh i don't want to say i think this was

00:28:36.900 --> 00:28:39.779
last year yeah i think it was like 10 okay or

00:28:39.779 --> 00:28:41.640
something like that i feel like that's not super

00:28:41.640 --> 00:28:43.880
crazy no okay but i'm pretty sure i was like

00:28:43.880 --> 00:28:46.640
the last of all my friends okay like i knew it

00:28:46.640 --> 00:28:49.920
but i didn't like i didn't say it yeah you know

00:28:49.920 --> 00:28:52.160
like i didn't i feel i didn't want to admit it

00:28:52.160 --> 00:28:54.740
i feel like that's really common yeah it's like

00:28:55.069 --> 00:28:58.410
kids start to realize the truth and then they're

00:28:58.410 --> 00:29:01.170
like, I either want to hold on to it or I know

00:29:01.170 --> 00:29:03.670
a lot of kids are like, the magic goes away if

00:29:03.670 --> 00:29:05.809
I stop believing or the presents go away if I

00:29:05.809 --> 00:29:08.769
stop believing or whatever. Yeah. And so I think

00:29:08.769 --> 00:29:12.529
that it's funny because, I mean, everything would

00:29:12.529 --> 00:29:16.210
be labeled like from Santa to Laura, but it was

00:29:16.210 --> 00:29:18.930
my mom's handwriting, like very clearly. But

00:29:18.930 --> 00:29:21.829
I never was like. I knew it, but I was like,

00:29:21.910 --> 00:29:23.750
I'm not going to, I don't want to say anything

00:29:23.750 --> 00:29:26.430
because I also don't want my Santa gifts to go

00:29:26.430 --> 00:29:31.970
away. Exactly. Yeah. So I don't know. It'll be

00:29:31.970 --> 00:29:36.490
interesting how we incorporate because I do think

00:29:36.490 --> 00:29:39.710
we will do Santa. We haven't, like, I mean, we

00:29:39.710 --> 00:29:41.950
talked about Santa with Colt. I talked about

00:29:41.950 --> 00:29:44.650
the, he's on the naughty list right now. But

00:29:44.650 --> 00:29:48.089
like, I mean, he's got, it's still not working,

00:29:48.150 --> 00:29:50.490
you know, like. I mean, at this age, they don't

00:29:50.490 --> 00:29:52.930
really care anyways. And so I think this Christmas,

00:29:52.990 --> 00:29:55.390
I don't know if we'll do like Santa gifts. Yeah.

00:29:55.470 --> 00:29:58.569
This Christmas. When I think like where I'm at

00:29:58.569 --> 00:30:01.150
too is like, again, we'll be like, hey, this

00:30:01.150 --> 00:30:03.009
is a character. And then if in like a few years

00:30:03.009 --> 00:30:05.470
they're like, we also want to pretend Santa is

00:30:05.470 --> 00:30:08.309
real, then we can go from that. Yeah. You know,

00:30:08.309 --> 00:30:10.029
where it's like, I don't want it to be this thing

00:30:10.029 --> 00:30:11.869
where it's like, yeah, where it's like if they

00:30:11.869 --> 00:30:14.569
want to pretend and we like make it a thing.

00:30:14.750 --> 00:30:18.240
Yeah. Then. Then I'm down with that. Then that's

00:30:18.240 --> 00:30:20.160
fun. Yeah, I think the most important part for

00:30:20.160 --> 00:30:22.180
us is, like, it's supposed to be a fun thing.

00:30:22.420 --> 00:30:27.660
Yeah. And, yeah, ultimately, like, Jesus is the

00:30:27.660 --> 00:30:30.519
reason we're celebrating. And I want to add more,

00:30:30.599 --> 00:30:36.299
like, emphasis on Jesus than Santa. Yeah. And

00:30:36.299 --> 00:30:39.059
I don't know what that looks like yet other than

00:30:39.059 --> 00:30:42.390
just, like, verbalizing, like, you know. This

00:30:42.390 --> 00:30:44.369
is, you know, this is why we're here. We spent

00:30:44.369 --> 00:30:46.670
a thousand hours at church this weekend. Because

00:30:46.670 --> 00:30:49.430
we're celebrating the birth of Jesus. And yeah,

00:30:49.490 --> 00:30:52.390
so I think it's going to be interesting how we

00:30:52.390 --> 00:30:54.990
incorporate that as we continue living farther

00:30:54.990 --> 00:30:57.329
away from family. Because right now Christmas

00:30:57.329 --> 00:31:00.670
just feels so busy. Yeah. And it's like we're

00:31:00.670 --> 00:31:05.119
hopping around to all different houses. Everyone

00:31:05.119 --> 00:31:08.779
wants to see us, which is so, so great, but also

00:31:08.779 --> 00:31:12.559
it does not feel like a quiet season for us right

00:31:12.559 --> 00:31:18.680
now. What other things do you want to add or

00:31:18.680 --> 00:31:21.579
put into practice? One of the things that I saw

00:31:21.579 --> 00:31:27.180
for getting presents for kids, kind of a philosophy,

00:31:27.319 --> 00:31:30.240
I guess, is getting something they want, something

00:31:30.240 --> 00:31:32.380
they need, something to wear, and something to

00:31:32.380 --> 00:31:35.130
read. I've seen that, too. That's cool. I like

00:31:35.130 --> 00:31:39.529
that mostly because I think it helps me like

00:31:39.529 --> 00:31:41.829
kind of reel it in. Like it's super easy to try

00:31:41.829 --> 00:31:44.890
to find like a million different things. So I

00:31:44.890 --> 00:31:46.410
think we're going to try to start doing that

00:31:46.410 --> 00:31:50.150
a little bit more. What is it? Want, need, wear,

00:31:50.529 --> 00:31:53.049
read. Oh, that's cool. So we've already gotten

00:31:53.049 --> 00:31:55.490
them a bunch of books for us. We're like books

00:31:55.490 --> 00:31:58.500
are always fair game. Yeah. And then. We have

00:31:58.500 --> 00:32:00.180
other friends who do it and they're like, the

00:32:00.180 --> 00:32:02.680
way we also do it is like for something to wear.

00:32:02.759 --> 00:32:05.400
It might be something like. that we wouldn't

00:32:05.400 --> 00:32:08.299
normally buy them like it's more expensive or

00:32:08.299 --> 00:32:10.799
fancier you know something like that and then

00:32:10.799 --> 00:32:12.299
same with the need where it's like we're not

00:32:12.299 --> 00:32:14.480
just like buying you your toothbrush you know

00:32:14.480 --> 00:32:16.599
it's like something that like you do legitimately

00:32:16.599 --> 00:32:18.759
need but maybe it's like a little bit more expensive

00:32:18.759 --> 00:32:20.960
like the nicer version of what you want you know

00:32:20.960 --> 00:32:23.220
yeah it's a bike and it's a nicer bike or you

00:32:23.220 --> 00:32:26.000
know something like that that's good um like

00:32:26.000 --> 00:32:28.599
which i like to like still kind of keep it magical

00:32:28.599 --> 00:32:31.160
and fun and again not turning into the thing

00:32:31.160 --> 00:32:32.960
where it's like oh everything we buy for you

00:32:32.960 --> 00:32:35.799
right now is a Christmas present. Well, I feel

00:32:35.799 --> 00:32:38.299
like too, like at least for the boys, they're

00:32:38.299 --> 00:32:40.779
getting so many toys, so many things from grandparents

00:32:40.779 --> 00:32:46.279
and aunts and uncles. And it's just so overstimulating

00:32:46.279 --> 00:32:50.200
already. Like they don't need more toys from,

00:32:50.240 --> 00:32:54.039
from us. It's yeah. I'm, I want to focus more

00:32:54.039 --> 00:32:56.160
on like the, okay, what do you need for your

00:32:56.160 --> 00:32:58.980
room? Like this year we put Colt in a big boy

00:32:58.980 --> 00:33:00.940
bed, but we still need a bed frame. So that's

00:33:00.940 --> 00:33:03.019
going to be his big Christmas gift is his bed

00:33:03.019 --> 00:33:06.430
frame. And so like things like that, like the,

00:33:06.529 --> 00:33:08.730
that fall under that category. We have tried

00:33:08.730 --> 00:33:12.809
really hard to limit toys from family. It worked

00:33:12.809 --> 00:33:15.430
better. How did you, how did you do that? So

00:33:15.430 --> 00:33:17.769
it worked better when we were in a small apartment.

00:33:17.789 --> 00:33:19.890
Cause we could be like, we literally don't have

00:33:19.890 --> 00:33:22.289
space. Yeah. And our house still isn't very big.

00:33:22.349 --> 00:33:24.250
So we still try to be like, Hey guys, like we

00:33:24.250 --> 00:33:26.470
actually do have limited space. And so we don't

00:33:26.470 --> 00:33:28.849
want a ton of toys. Thankfully our family has

00:33:28.849 --> 00:33:31.309
just like. been fairly respectful from the get

00:33:31.309 --> 00:33:33.950
-go of like hey we're kind of being picky about

00:33:33.950 --> 00:33:36.630
our toys the things that i have found have been

00:33:36.630 --> 00:33:39.750
helpful one have a few things that are fair game

00:33:39.750 --> 00:33:43.269
so like we've told our family clothes and books

00:33:43.269 --> 00:33:46.170
you can never buy us enough yeah like we might

00:33:46.170 --> 00:33:48.369
tell you hey don't buy any more clothes in this

00:33:48.369 --> 00:33:51.269
size you know buy the next size up or something

00:33:51.269 --> 00:33:54.089
like that yeah but kids are always growing kids

00:33:54.089 --> 00:33:55.630
always need more clothes they're always getting

00:33:55.630 --> 00:33:58.460
stains on clothes you know like close her for

00:33:58.460 --> 00:34:01.160
a game and then books like I mean if you go upstairs

00:34:01.160 --> 00:34:02.819
we have so many stacks of books in our house

00:34:02.819 --> 00:34:04.619
right now and it's a little bit crazy yeah but

00:34:04.619 --> 00:34:07.339
Lloyd loves them and like that's something that's

00:34:07.339 --> 00:34:09.699
super important to us is you know reading and

00:34:09.699 --> 00:34:13.059
it's really fun so yeah those are the two things

00:34:13.059 --> 00:34:16.679
that we've been like hey like kind of no restrictions

00:34:16.679 --> 00:34:20.420
on yeah and if it's something that like I mean

00:34:20.420 --> 00:34:21.860
I'm not really worried with our family but if

00:34:21.860 --> 00:34:23.920
it was like someone got us a book that we thought

00:34:23.920 --> 00:34:25.800
was like kind of weird and we're not going to

00:34:25.800 --> 00:34:28.929
read that to our kid I feel less bad about, like,

00:34:28.929 --> 00:34:30.610
disappearing it. Because it's like, oh, you spent,

00:34:30.670 --> 00:34:33.889
like, $7 on this book. Whereas toys get so expensive.

00:34:34.150 --> 00:34:36.309
Oh, gosh, yeah. So that's been one big thing.

00:34:36.409 --> 00:34:39.809
The other thing is people ask us what they want.

00:34:39.929 --> 00:34:43.730
And so I have Amazon lists for both kids that

00:34:43.730 --> 00:34:46.409
throughout the year I put stuff on. That's smart.

00:34:46.590 --> 00:34:48.269
And then you send the link out. And then I just

00:34:48.269 --> 00:34:50.329
send the link out. So that way it's kind of like,

00:34:50.409 --> 00:34:52.789
here are, like, pre -approved toys. Yeah. Like,

00:34:52.829 --> 00:34:55.239
I hate being like, we want to approve. toys yeah

00:34:55.239 --> 00:34:57.900
but also it's gonna be in my house yes the toys

00:34:57.900 --> 00:34:59.960
that we've been okay with people buying are the

00:34:59.960 --> 00:35:02.980
Montessori yes toys we've kind of said that like

00:35:02.980 --> 00:35:05.199
anything Montessori for the most part we're okay

00:35:05.199 --> 00:35:07.599
with yeah yeah it's really just some of those

00:35:07.599 --> 00:35:10.260
Montessori toys have really tiny pieces to it

00:35:10.260 --> 00:35:12.199
some of them do yeah yeah which I'm surprised

00:35:12.199 --> 00:35:14.780
with but so yeah those are kind of some limits

00:35:14.780 --> 00:35:17.139
and then I also think we're lucky with our family

00:35:17.139 --> 00:35:19.380
because I know some people are like I could give

00:35:19.380 --> 00:35:21.880
my parents all those. My mom goes to town on

00:35:21.880 --> 00:35:25.559
the toys. Yeah. Yeah. And now we're traveling

00:35:25.559 --> 00:35:28.619
back with like, we usually bring an extra suitcase

00:35:28.619 --> 00:35:30.900
at Christmas. Just for. Yeah, just for gifts

00:35:30.900 --> 00:35:33.739
because otherwise we can't bring it home. But.

00:35:33.780 --> 00:35:35.980
Yeah. That is the other side of it too is like,

00:35:36.079 --> 00:35:39.199
yeah, I've had our family ask like, okay, what

00:35:39.199 --> 00:35:41.119
do the boys need for Christmas? And I really,

00:35:41.139 --> 00:35:44.079
I am trying to answer like. you know clothes

00:35:44.079 --> 00:35:48.699
shoes are a big one and books but i'm like it's

00:35:48.699 --> 00:35:50.940
so hard to travel gift cards are great for us

00:35:50.940 --> 00:35:55.099
yeah amazon is really great target walmart yeah

00:35:55.099 --> 00:35:58.400
the amazon list thing has helped me so much yeah

00:35:58.400 --> 00:36:00.659
that's good yeah anytime someone asks me i'm

00:36:00.659 --> 00:36:03.500
like even if i have like specific ideas in mind

00:36:03.500 --> 00:36:06.139
i forget every single thing that yeah and either

00:36:06.139 --> 00:36:08.800
of my kids have ever shown interest in for sure

00:36:08.800 --> 00:36:12.590
and since we don't just like buy them toys all

00:36:12.590 --> 00:36:15.250
the time then i'll be like oh this is something

00:36:15.250 --> 00:36:17.820
that i noticed like We were at a friend's house

00:36:17.820 --> 00:36:19.679
or something like that. And they showed interest

00:36:19.679 --> 00:36:22.059
in. So, you know, maybe something like this.

00:36:22.219 --> 00:36:24.320
Yeah. It's so hard with toys too when they're

00:36:24.320 --> 00:36:26.340
so young. It's like they're going to pay attention

00:36:26.340 --> 00:36:28.800
to it for like 2 .5 seconds and then move on.

00:36:29.059 --> 00:36:31.360
It's hard to justify like, oh, you're going to

00:36:31.360 --> 00:36:33.719
spend $40 on this toy that they're going to look

00:36:33.719 --> 00:36:36.780
at for maybe a day. Yeah. So we've tried to be

00:36:36.780 --> 00:36:38.780
intentional about that too. Like, okay, what

00:36:38.780 --> 00:36:41.280
are things that like have shown a continued interest?

00:36:41.300 --> 00:36:45.590
Like Lloyd, his two presents this year. Last

00:36:45.590 --> 00:36:48.730
year, Stuart made him a Montessori arch for climbing.

00:36:48.929 --> 00:36:51.650
The coolest thing ever. This year, he's making

00:36:51.650 --> 00:36:55.309
a slide to go onto it. So fun. We're like, this

00:36:55.309 --> 00:36:57.789
boy would go down slides all day long. All day

00:36:57.789 --> 00:37:00.110
long. So hopefully he really, really loves it.

00:37:00.329 --> 00:37:03.739
And then. He's continued to show interest in

00:37:03.739 --> 00:37:05.960
construction vehicles. So we got him like one

00:37:05.960 --> 00:37:07.860
of those sets of a bunch of construction vehicles.

00:37:08.199 --> 00:37:11.420
Cool. That hopefully he'll definitely love it.

00:37:11.420 --> 00:37:12.980
So you're on top of it. You're already shopping.

00:37:13.119 --> 00:37:15.480
I mean, sort of Christmas shopping. I mean, Stuart

00:37:15.480 --> 00:37:18.119
already came up with that. Yeah. I did buy a

00:37:18.119 --> 00:37:20.480
bunch of books, but they were on sale. Nice.

00:37:20.679 --> 00:37:22.579
Yeah. And then I have no idea what to get Zeta.

00:37:22.780 --> 00:37:24.880
Yeah. That's hard. The babies are the hard ones.

00:37:24.880 --> 00:37:27.260
It's so hard. It's like clothes and like things

00:37:27.260 --> 00:37:29.559
to chew on. Yeah. I'm like, do I just get her

00:37:29.559 --> 00:37:33.539
like one of those? door stoppers that goes that's

00:37:33.539 --> 00:37:38.239
all she wants to play with honestly i i'm pretty

00:37:38.239 --> 00:37:41.820
sure when colt was for at least his first christmas

00:37:41.820 --> 00:37:43.920
he was like four months old i don't even think

00:37:43.920 --> 00:37:46.760
we bought him anything to be honest what for

00:37:46.760 --> 00:37:51.219
lloyd's first christmas we got uh like a splat

00:37:51.219 --> 00:37:53.019
mat so like one of those things that you put

00:37:53.019 --> 00:37:56.340
under yeah uh the high chair yeah i'm one of

00:37:56.340 --> 00:37:59.250
those And there were like a few things in that

00:37:59.250 --> 00:38:01.269
same vein where it's like, this is just something

00:38:01.269 --> 00:38:04.610
that you need anyway. So you're going to unwrap

00:38:04.610 --> 00:38:08.210
it. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. I think for Colt this year,

00:38:08.369 --> 00:38:11.550
my mom is getting him. He's really obsessed with

00:38:11.550 --> 00:38:14.289
our car keys and like trying to, but he tries

00:38:14.289 --> 00:38:16.909
to unlock our front door with the car key. Oh,

00:38:16.929 --> 00:38:20.650
okay. And so my mom bought him like one of the

00:38:20.650 --> 00:38:24.039
Montessori like. locks and keys so it comes with

00:38:24.039 --> 00:38:25.739
like eight different keys and eight different

00:38:25.739 --> 00:38:27.780
locks and then nick can like try them all oh

00:38:27.780 --> 00:38:29.380
that's and i'm like hopefully that will keep

00:38:29.380 --> 00:38:32.900
him entertained for yeah a while he like yeah

00:38:32.900 --> 00:38:35.079
if he if there's a toy like that it can usually

00:38:35.079 --> 00:38:38.139
keep him entertained the one thing so we we decorated

00:38:38.139 --> 00:38:41.119
for christmas i got like those little um stickies

00:38:41.119 --> 00:38:43.820
for the windows that oh yeah like merry christmas

00:38:43.820 --> 00:38:46.360
the like jelly ones yeah the jelly ones and um

00:38:46.360 --> 00:38:49.690
i put it up on the window yesterday and I mean,

00:38:49.690 --> 00:38:51.610
he does not know how to spell Merry Christmas,

00:38:51.690 --> 00:38:53.989
but he loves just, he moves it from one window

00:38:53.989 --> 00:38:56.389
to the next and he's like good for like 30 minutes.

00:38:56.409 --> 00:38:58.230
There are some of those activities that you're

00:38:58.230 --> 00:39:02.010
like. It was literally $1 .50 at Hobby Lobby.

00:39:02.030 --> 00:39:04.550
Yep. I was like, sick. That was the best purchase

00:39:04.550 --> 00:39:06.769
of my life. Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes that's the

00:39:06.769 --> 00:39:10.889
move. Yeah. It'll be fun to, I don't know, with

00:39:10.889 --> 00:39:12.670
a two -year -old this year, it'll be fun to.

00:39:12.969 --> 00:39:16.420
Yeah. see christmas and through his eyes and

00:39:16.420 --> 00:39:18.519
oh one thing i think we're gonna do this year

00:39:18.519 --> 00:39:21.320
is have lloyd pick out a gift for zeta so like

00:39:21.320 --> 00:39:24.340
one of us will take him shopping and just like

00:39:24.340 --> 00:39:26.539
what do you want to get yeah what do you want

00:39:26.539 --> 00:39:29.139
to get zeta do you think he's gonna pick something

00:39:29.139 --> 00:39:32.320
that he likes i don't know it'll be interesting

00:39:32.320 --> 00:39:35.119
to see if he's like she's gonna want this construction

00:39:35.119 --> 00:39:38.619
vehicle right which also we've kind of talked

00:39:38.619 --> 00:39:40.599
about it we're like i think we need to get zeta

00:39:40.599 --> 00:39:44.079
a toy car because she wants whatever lloyd has

00:39:44.079 --> 00:39:46.639
yeah and we're trying to like find the balance

00:39:46.639 --> 00:39:50.340
of letting lloyd have his own stuff and like

00:39:50.340 --> 00:39:52.360
hey you don't have to share this but you also

00:39:52.360 --> 00:39:56.139
have to be nice and yes and all the cars in our

00:39:56.139 --> 00:39:58.380
house have been gifted to him in some capacity

00:39:58.380 --> 00:40:02.170
so i'm like i it's fair that you don't want to

00:40:02.170 --> 00:40:04.309
share that yeah but you have to get Zeta something

00:40:04.309 --> 00:40:06.469
so I'm kind of thinking we're like we need to

00:40:06.469 --> 00:40:08.110
have a toy that we're like yeah a toy car that

00:40:08.110 --> 00:40:10.630
we're like this is Zeta's toy car you can't take

00:40:10.630 --> 00:40:12.969
it from her like maybe I'm just setting myself

00:40:12.969 --> 00:40:16.969
up for absolute disaster but if it's one he really

00:40:16.969 --> 00:40:20.429
likes yeah maybe one he already has or something

00:40:20.429 --> 00:40:23.469
like that I don't know like a duplicate um yeah

00:40:23.469 --> 00:40:25.690
so that way we can be like this is Zeta's car

00:40:25.690 --> 00:40:28.280
like Then when she has Lightning McQueen and

00:40:28.280 --> 00:40:29.460
you want Lightning McQueen back, you're like,

00:40:29.539 --> 00:40:32.219
okay, go get Zeta's car and get back. And trade.

00:40:32.480 --> 00:40:34.719
And trade, yeah. Yeah. But, yeah, I don't know

00:40:34.719 --> 00:40:39.300
because consistently if she has something in

00:40:39.300 --> 00:40:41.760
the house that he wants and he wants to take

00:40:41.760 --> 00:40:43.780
it back, then we'll be like, okay, can you find

00:40:43.780 --> 00:40:45.900
something for her to play with? And sometimes

00:40:45.900 --> 00:40:47.920
he shares one of his toys, which is really sweet.

00:40:48.099 --> 00:40:49.920
Yeah. And sometimes he hands her like a wooden

00:40:49.920 --> 00:40:51.920
spoon. Yeah. Which I'm like, she doesn't care.

00:40:51.980 --> 00:40:56.099
She's still happy. Yeah. So. Yeah, so I don't

00:40:56.099 --> 00:40:57.880
know if he'll find something. That'll be interesting.

00:40:58.300 --> 00:40:59.960
You'll have to report back on that. Yeah, we

00:40:59.960 --> 00:41:03.500
definitely will. Yeah, yeah. I love that idea.

00:41:03.539 --> 00:41:06.500
I think I might try to do that, and then we'll

00:41:06.500 --> 00:41:09.780
just order something for Cruz to give to Colt

00:41:09.780 --> 00:41:12.960
or something like that. That's fun. I'd love

00:41:12.960 --> 00:41:15.320
if you guys could share your traditions with

00:41:15.320 --> 00:41:20.199
us and let us know what you guys do. I love hearing

00:41:20.199 --> 00:41:23.380
the weird, obscure traditions that people...

00:41:23.380 --> 00:41:25.840
I can't even think of one right now, but... I

00:41:25.840 --> 00:41:28.380
know our weird family... It's not like the Simpson

00:41:28.380 --> 00:41:31.840
one, but my parents, the Sowilla one. So they

00:41:31.840 --> 00:41:35.300
have this set of mugs that are Next Computer

00:41:35.300 --> 00:41:37.880
branded, which no one knows what Next Computer

00:41:37.880 --> 00:41:41.469
is because it was... in existence for like two

00:41:41.469 --> 00:41:44.289
years in the 90s and it was when steve jobs got

00:41:44.289 --> 00:41:46.989
fired from apple he started next computer and

00:41:46.989 --> 00:41:51.289
my dad went to the factory or facility or something

00:41:51.289 --> 00:41:52.769
like that at one point time and they had a bunch

00:41:52.769 --> 00:41:55.530
of merch so he had he got next computer mugs

00:41:55.530 --> 00:41:57.650
and for some reason those are our christmas mugs

00:41:57.650 --> 00:41:59.949
that's don't know why they're not there's just

00:41:59.949 --> 00:42:02.210
like enough for everybody to use no there's only

00:42:02.210 --> 00:42:06.300
four Yeah. They're not Christmas branded in any

00:42:06.300 --> 00:42:08.460
capacity. But you, is that the only time you

00:42:08.460 --> 00:42:11.139
guys use them? Yeah. That's great. Do they live

00:42:11.139 --> 00:42:13.300
with the Christmas decorations? That's amazing.

00:42:13.420 --> 00:42:15.980
I love that so much. And we drink eggnog out

00:42:15.980 --> 00:42:18.159
of them. So I don't know where this came from.

00:42:18.940 --> 00:42:21.340
Oh, I love that. So that's our like weird family

00:42:21.340 --> 00:42:23.500
tradition. I don't think we have. Oh, other than

00:42:23.500 --> 00:42:25.760
on Christmas day, we always eat sandwiches for

00:42:25.760 --> 00:42:28.719
lunch. That's a good move though. Yeah. But it's

00:42:28.719 --> 00:42:31.889
like. really intricate sandwiches so like we

00:42:31.889 --> 00:42:35.130
get like fancy meats and like we have all the

00:42:35.130 --> 00:42:37.929
different spreads and like all the different

00:42:37.929 --> 00:42:41.989
cheeses great bread like i love it just it's

00:42:41.989 --> 00:42:44.730
not just the traditional like i don't know so

00:42:44.730 --> 00:42:47.949
that's fun but all right well yeah let us know

00:42:47.949 --> 00:42:49.769
what your guys traditions are and what you guys

00:42:49.769 --> 00:42:52.550
are thinking for christmas yeah do we want to

00:42:52.550 --> 00:42:56.280
hop into our wins of the week yeah Okay. I can

00:42:56.280 --> 00:42:59.699
go first. Okay. So we had just like a little

00:42:59.699 --> 00:43:02.639
date night last night, which meant that my mom

00:43:02.639 --> 00:43:06.360
put Zeta down for bed. And I think this is the

00:43:06.360 --> 00:43:09.039
first time she's been put down for bed without

00:43:09.039 --> 00:43:11.800
Stuart or either. That's awesome. We've had one

00:43:11.800 --> 00:43:14.519
or the other, but not without both of us. And

00:43:14.519 --> 00:43:17.099
I know it was a little bit of a rough go, but

00:43:17.099 --> 00:43:20.699
she was asleep when we got home. And then she

00:43:20.699 --> 00:43:23.019
also slept way better last night. I shouldn't

00:43:23.019 --> 00:43:27.969
say this. yeah then she has all week but then

00:43:27.969 --> 00:43:30.489
when we woke up she was just so snuggly yeah

00:43:30.489 --> 00:43:32.929
so sweet it was like kind of clear that she missed

00:43:32.929 --> 00:43:36.010
us and like it's like i've been gone for so long

00:43:36.010 --> 00:43:39.869
yeah i won't do that again yeah she just like

00:43:39.869 --> 00:43:42.429
kept putting her head on like our chests and

00:43:42.429 --> 00:43:45.050
was so happy that we were home and that's the

00:43:45.050 --> 00:43:48.570
best just so sweet that's cute that's cute um

00:43:48.570 --> 00:43:53.230
okay my win very short and simple. So Cruz started

00:43:53.230 --> 00:43:57.130
saying Dada. But I'm mad he didn't say Mama.

00:43:57.269 --> 00:43:59.909
Of course. Of course. Colt said Mama first. But

00:43:59.909 --> 00:44:02.170
it's more just like, I don't think he knows what

00:44:02.170 --> 00:44:04.170
he's saying, but it's like the Dada, Dada, Dada,

00:44:04.269 --> 00:44:06.989
Dada. And Michael's like, I'll take it. He said

00:44:06.989 --> 00:44:10.150
it. He's looking at me. He said it. And it's

00:44:10.150 --> 00:44:12.590
just really cute. And I can't believe we're already

00:44:12.590 --> 00:44:15.170
at that phase. I know. It's going so fast. I

00:44:15.170 --> 00:44:17.110
showed Zeta a picture of Stuart while he was

00:44:17.110 --> 00:44:19.170
at work and I was like, who's that? He said Dada.

00:44:19.349 --> 00:44:21.480
And then... I got her to do it a second time.

00:44:21.739 --> 00:44:24.280
Never again. Yeah. He comes home. I'm like, Zeta,

00:44:24.340 --> 00:44:28.780
who's that? She's going to be stubborn. Yep.

00:44:28.940 --> 00:44:30.960
Love it. I'll show her another picture. Nothing.

00:44:31.059 --> 00:44:33.219
But I was like, I swear this happened. No one

00:44:33.219 --> 00:44:35.659
else witnessed it, but I swear it happened. I'm

00:44:35.659 --> 00:44:38.099
not delusional. Or maybe I am. I don't know.

00:44:38.219 --> 00:44:40.400
I don't know. Well, thanks for tuning in, guys.

00:44:40.480 --> 00:44:42.539
Hope you guys have a great Christmas with your

00:44:42.539 --> 00:44:45.699
families. Happy New Year. Happy New Year. I hope

00:44:45.699 --> 00:44:48.940
that your kids, yeah, just have a magical Christmas

00:44:48.940 --> 00:44:51.679
season. Yeah. Merry Christmas. Thanks for listening.

00:44:51.880 --> 00:44:54.539
We'll see you next week. Like, not next week.

00:44:54.619 --> 00:44:57.039
Oh, nope. We'll see you in three weeks. Three

00:44:57.039 --> 00:45:01.440
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