WEBVTT 00:00:12.970 --> 00:00:16.030 Welcome back to No Manual, a momcast where we're 00:00:16.030 --> 00:00:17.929 just talking about the realities of motherhood, 00:00:18.089 --> 00:00:22.210 the funny things, the less funny things, and 00:00:22.210 --> 00:00:24.890 just to make moms feel less alone and realize 00:00:24.890 --> 00:00:27.370 we all have kind of the same experiences and 00:00:27.370 --> 00:00:31.609 the same frustrations and joys and all of that. 00:00:31.769 --> 00:00:34.490 Yes. In today's episode, we're going to talk 00:00:34.490 --> 00:00:37.950 about our experiences as being working from home 00:00:37.950 --> 00:00:41.880 moms. So we both... work from home with our kids 00:00:41.880 --> 00:00:44.979 with us neither of us have like in -home child 00:00:44.979 --> 00:00:47.159 care to help us out or anything like that yep 00:00:47.159 --> 00:00:50.920 so yeah we have like maybe some tips that we've 00:00:50.920 --> 00:00:53.320 figured out along the way and I think just a 00:00:53.320 --> 00:00:57.240 lot of yeah what our experience has been yeah 00:00:57.240 --> 00:01:01.240 things we haven't figured out yet yeah yeah Yeah, 00:01:01.240 --> 00:01:04.939 it's chaos. It is. Yeah. Well, before we get 00:01:04.939 --> 00:01:07.219 started, do you want to start with your mom moment? 00:01:07.299 --> 00:01:09.640 I would love to. It's actually a work from home 00:01:09.640 --> 00:01:14.340 moment. So it was this last Monday. So start 00:01:14.340 --> 00:01:18.500 of the work week, just already just chaos. And 00:01:18.500 --> 00:01:21.719 my computer was like, so I had just recently 00:01:21.719 --> 00:01:27.019 updated my computer. So that was like the new 00:01:27.019 --> 00:01:32.780 update. I don't know. When I did that, I swear 00:01:32.780 --> 00:01:35.459 like all of my apps just stopped working. So 00:01:35.459 --> 00:01:39.200 specifically my Teams, which is like how I chat 00:01:39.200 --> 00:01:42.659 with my coworkers, app just like said I needed 00:01:42.659 --> 00:01:44.900 to redownload it. So I tried to do that, but 00:01:44.900 --> 00:01:48.359 then it was like not working. And I just was 00:01:48.359 --> 00:01:50.280 so frustrated because I needed to get work done. 00:01:50.319 --> 00:01:52.500 My boss was calling me to try to get stuff done. 00:01:53.000 --> 00:01:56.459 And at the same time, like Cruz was crying. Colt 00:01:56.459 --> 00:01:58.019 was crying about something. I can't remember. 00:01:58.260 --> 00:02:01.450 Maybe. needing a snack or something like that 00:02:01.450 --> 00:02:05.390 and so I just like I started to cry because I 00:02:05.390 --> 00:02:08.650 was like I don't know what to do right now I 00:02:08.650 --> 00:02:11.569 like had so much to do I had so much on my plate 00:02:11.569 --> 00:02:13.729 and I was like so frustrated that my computer 00:02:13.729 --> 00:02:16.490 wasn't working frustrated that I couldn't like 00:02:16.490 --> 00:02:21.860 help my kids in that moment um and sweet Colty 00:02:21.860 --> 00:02:24.340 looks at me cause he could see I was crying and 00:02:24.340 --> 00:02:27.560 he goes, sorry mama, sorry mama. And I'm like, 00:02:27.560 --> 00:02:30.599 Oh buddy, it's okay. Like mama's not upset at 00:02:30.599 --> 00:02:34.159 you. Like I'm just, it's just a hard day and 00:02:34.159 --> 00:02:38.039 mama's allowed to cry too. And so it was just 00:02:38.039 --> 00:02:41.000 chaos. That's like just kind of a little sneak 00:02:41.000 --> 00:02:44.319 peek of work from home life for me. Yeah. And 00:02:44.319 --> 00:02:47.039 that's, that's rough too. And like said this 00:02:47.039 --> 00:02:49.840 age, they don't understand. Like I'm frustrated 00:02:49.840 --> 00:02:52.840 at, The situation, not you. You know, like with 00:02:52.840 --> 00:02:55.099 your husband, you can communicate that. Like, 00:02:55.159 --> 00:02:58.379 hey, not mad at you in particular. All the things 00:02:58.379 --> 00:03:00.759 are happening and I'm frustrated. But when you're 00:03:00.759 --> 00:03:03.659 two, like your brain doesn't comprehend that 00:03:03.659 --> 00:03:07.080 yet. Yeah. Yep. Exactly. Poor buddy. Well, my 00:03:07.080 --> 00:03:12.360 mom moment is this week we went to the national 00:03:12.360 --> 00:03:15.460 night out in our town, which is just like first 00:03:15.460 --> 00:03:20.509 responders and different like. facilities i guess 00:03:20.509 --> 00:03:22.990 throughout the town will like bring their trucks 00:03:22.990 --> 00:03:25.469 in and have different displays so it's like there's 00:03:25.469 --> 00:03:30.050 a police dog uh demonstration and the fire department 00:03:30.050 --> 00:03:33.310 demonstrated what it was like uh we missed this 00:03:33.310 --> 00:03:34.909 one but we heard them talk about it like how 00:03:34.909 --> 00:03:37.150 they would take doors off of a car for a really 00:03:37.150 --> 00:03:39.990 bad car wreck oh wow but then also you can like 00:03:39.990 --> 00:03:41.789 get into a bunch of trucks so you can like get 00:03:41.789 --> 00:03:43.590 into the fire truck you can get into a police 00:03:43.590 --> 00:03:46.889 car and sit on the police motorcycle and see 00:03:46.889 --> 00:03:52.500 you know the backhoe and yeah um stuff like that 00:03:52.500 --> 00:03:55.460 uh so lloyd's favorite was the animal control 00:03:55.460 --> 00:03:57.900 truck which was really funny of course um but 00:03:57.900 --> 00:04:00.879 he also liked the ambulance and the second we 00:04:00.879 --> 00:04:04.479 like put him in the ambulance he went straight 00:04:04.479 --> 00:04:09.379 for the biohazard container did not care about 00:04:09.379 --> 00:04:11.939 anything else There are other kids like playing 00:04:11.939 --> 00:04:14.680 with stethoscopes. It's like bright red, right? 00:04:14.840 --> 00:04:17.420 It is bright red. Yeah. And the EMT in there 00:04:17.420 --> 00:04:20.220 is like, oh, buddy, like that's yucky. Hopefully 00:04:20.220 --> 00:04:22.579 that's cleaned out. I'm sure it was cleaned out 00:04:22.579 --> 00:04:26.680 because it was like an event for kids. But still, 00:04:26.720 --> 00:04:28.100 like you don't want to be sticking your hand 00:04:28.100 --> 00:04:29.420 in the biohazard container. No, for sure not. 00:04:30.160 --> 00:04:32.519 And just that was the only thing he wanted to 00:04:32.519 --> 00:04:36.050 play with. Yeah. The EMT was like, you can play 00:04:36.050 --> 00:04:37.949 with pretty much anything else in here he wants. 00:04:38.149 --> 00:04:40.910 Nope. He's like, red container. Red container. 00:04:41.230 --> 00:04:44.430 Yes. Needles go in this. Yeah. Obviously. That's 00:04:44.430 --> 00:04:47.089 what I want. Yeah. Do you think that's funny, 00:04:47.149 --> 00:04:49.449 Cruz? Yeah, Cruz gets it. Yeah. That's what I 00:04:49.449 --> 00:04:53.529 want too. Yeah. Well, okay. So let's just hop 00:04:53.529 --> 00:04:59.550 right in. So work from home life for me is chaos. 00:05:00.410 --> 00:05:04.579 I'm so grateful I get to do it. What does it 00:05:04.579 --> 00:05:09.199 look like for you as far as working from home? 00:05:09.240 --> 00:05:11.779 So, I mean, I've been back to work for about 00:05:11.779 --> 00:05:17.000 a month now. And I was super lucky. And this 00:05:17.000 --> 00:05:20.500 actually changed before I had kids. So I've worked 00:05:20.500 --> 00:05:23.649 from home. since actually since before COVID. 00:05:23.750 --> 00:05:27.290 My job was hybrid. COVID happened. We went fully 00:05:27.290 --> 00:05:30.269 remote and then just never went back to hybrid. 00:05:30.730 --> 00:05:33.649 And at one point in time, I was able to change 00:05:33.649 --> 00:05:37.329 my hours from a traditional nine to five to seven 00:05:37.329 --> 00:05:40.910 to three instead. And I did that because of Stuart's 00:05:40.910 --> 00:05:43.850 job. He was getting up really early. And when 00:05:43.850 --> 00:05:46.670 I was working nine to five, it was like he wanted 00:05:46.670 --> 00:05:48.990 to go to bed early because he was. getting up 00:05:48.990 --> 00:05:52.790 at 5 a .m. and I didn't and so it was like we 00:05:52.790 --> 00:05:55.170 had no time together that we were like on the 00:05:55.170 --> 00:05:58.790 same page so I was able to switch then and that's 00:05:58.790 --> 00:06:01.769 worked out really well for me with the kids because 00:06:01.769 --> 00:06:05.930 at least with Lloyd then Lloyd came along and 00:06:05.930 --> 00:06:08.990 he was He, he sleeps fairly late for a little 00:06:08.990 --> 00:06:11.410 kid. Like he sleeps till like seven 30. Nice. 00:06:11.449 --> 00:06:13.949 Sometimes eight if I'm really lucky. Yeah. Um, 00:06:13.990 --> 00:06:15.889 so that worked out where it's like, I would wake 00:06:15.889 --> 00:06:19.970 up and get my day started and then he wakes up. 00:06:19.970 --> 00:06:21.769 So it's like, okay, wake up, catch up on emails, 00:06:22.029 --> 00:06:24.529 whatever. And then he wakes up. Um, and that's 00:06:24.529 --> 00:06:27.189 continued. So that I've been super thankful for. 00:06:27.209 --> 00:06:30.389 And then. naps throughout the day yeah um so 00:06:30.389 --> 00:06:32.550 right now he naps for pretty much the second 00:06:32.550 --> 00:06:35.569 half of my work day not obviously not quite the 00:06:35.569 --> 00:06:38.430 full thing yeah and that makes a huge difference 00:06:38.430 --> 00:06:40.829 yeah you can crank some workout then yeah yeah 00:06:40.829 --> 00:06:46.050 that's so nice yeah my so for me I do work hybrid 00:06:46.050 --> 00:06:49.009 technically so I work from home two days a week 00:06:49.009 --> 00:06:51.550 and then I I go into the office two days a week 00:06:51.550 --> 00:06:54.910 and then on Sundays so I work at the church on 00:06:54.910 --> 00:06:58.629 Sundays is So the kids go into kids ministry 00:06:58.629 --> 00:07:03.029 and then I work the services. But for me, like 00:07:03.029 --> 00:07:08.410 I, I do work nine to five and it really, so I'm 00:07:08.410 --> 00:07:11.029 an administrative assistant. Technically there's 00:07:11.029 --> 00:07:14.410 some other pieces to my job that, um, thankfully 00:07:14.410 --> 00:07:17.910 everything is pretty much just online and emails. 00:07:19.000 --> 00:07:21.339 really just I have to be online I have to be 00:07:21.339 --> 00:07:25.240 available there's a lot of calendaring that I 00:07:25.240 --> 00:07:28.800 have to do I have to be like available to my 00:07:28.800 --> 00:07:33.660 boss like via phone in the work hours so um for 00:07:33.660 --> 00:07:38.060 me like I'm so so I am so grateful that they've 00:07:38.060 --> 00:07:41.920 given me the ability to do this I commend all 00:07:41.920 --> 00:07:44.860 the moms the full -time working moms that do 00:07:44.860 --> 00:07:47.879 go into the office but I am so grateful that 00:07:47.879 --> 00:07:51.279 I get to have that time extra time at home with 00:07:51.279 --> 00:07:55.819 my kids um yeah me too for sure and the downside 00:07:55.819 --> 00:08:00.660 of that though is how chaotic it can be especially 00:08:00.660 --> 00:08:04.759 now like as my toddler's getting older more just 00:08:04.759 --> 00:08:09.920 like energetic and just he yeah he's like running 00:08:09.920 --> 00:08:13.279 everywhere and so I think that creates another 00:08:13.279 --> 00:08:16.980 layer to it yeah it's almost easier When they're 00:08:16.980 --> 00:08:20.319 little. Yeah. Like I think we talked about this 00:08:20.319 --> 00:08:23.899 probably off mic that it would almost be easier 00:08:23.899 --> 00:08:26.800 to be a working mom with like a brand new baby. 00:08:26.899 --> 00:08:29.439 Yes. Like obviously outside of the like recovery 00:08:29.439 --> 00:08:32.279 from the logistical like where the baby's at 00:08:32.279 --> 00:08:36.000 developmentally piece. Yeah. Not all the other 00:08:36.000 --> 00:08:38.720 parts. That would be easier because they it's 00:08:38.720 --> 00:08:40.940 like they sleep. You feed them. Yeah. You change 00:08:40.940 --> 00:08:42.460 their diaper and then they go back to sleep. 00:08:42.519 --> 00:08:47.230 Yep. Whereas the older they get and. where our 00:08:47.230 --> 00:08:50.850 boys are at Colton Lloyd are at is a really tough 00:08:50.850 --> 00:08:52.549 age too because they're not really old enough 00:08:52.549 --> 00:08:54.669 that you can be like here's an activity yes you 00:08:54.669 --> 00:08:56.850 know because then in another like I mean they're 00:08:56.850 --> 00:09:00.210 boys so maybe never but uh theoretically in another 00:09:00.210 --> 00:09:03.190 like two years or something like that then you 00:09:03.190 --> 00:09:06.590 can start to be like hey here's an activity here's 00:09:06.590 --> 00:09:10.429 legos and and build for hours and knock it down 00:09:10.429 --> 00:09:13.389 and build it and knock it down for you know even 00:09:13.389 --> 00:09:16.370 if it's just one hour yeah right yeah Whereas 00:09:16.370 --> 00:09:17.870 right now their attention span, their brains 00:09:17.870 --> 00:09:19.549 just aren't to the point where they have an attention 00:09:19.549 --> 00:09:22.450 span to have an activity. Yeah. For Colty too, 00:09:22.549 --> 00:09:24.850 it's like if I have an activity for him, he wants 00:09:24.850 --> 00:09:28.029 me to do it with him. Right. And of course, like 00:09:28.029 --> 00:09:31.149 I of course want to do it with him. Like, and 00:09:31.149 --> 00:09:33.629 it makes me sad. It honestly makes me sad when 00:09:33.629 --> 00:09:35.929 I'm like, I'm sorry, buddy. Like mommy has to 00:09:35.929 --> 00:09:38.649 work right now. And like mommy has to get this 00:09:38.649 --> 00:09:41.029 work stuff done. And it like, it makes him sad. 00:09:41.149 --> 00:09:44.129 It makes me sad. Yeah. And then I'm like in my 00:09:44.129 --> 00:09:48.289 head about like. oh man, like this sucks. Yeah. 00:09:48.330 --> 00:09:52.049 Like what terrible trauma am I giving my child? 00:09:52.450 --> 00:09:55.970 Yeah. You know, when he goes in his twenties, 00:09:56.049 --> 00:09:58.269 what is he going to say in therapy? For sure. 00:09:58.809 --> 00:10:01.529 Yeah. The thing of it too, is it's like, I'm 00:10:01.529 --> 00:10:05.509 working on either on my phone or on my computer. 00:10:05.710 --> 00:10:08.899 And then he's like, well, mommy's on. the phone 00:10:08.899 --> 00:10:11.679 or computer so can i like i want to play with 00:10:11.679 --> 00:10:15.379 your phone i want to watch tv i will say so i 00:10:15.379 --> 00:10:18.500 have a old laptop that like it doesn't even hold 00:10:18.500 --> 00:10:21.100 charge anymore yeah um and i've started giving 00:10:21.100 --> 00:10:23.220 that to lloyd when you're working when i'm working 00:10:23.220 --> 00:10:25.230 and we're like do you want lloyd's laptop I'm 00:10:25.230 --> 00:10:27.470 like, yeah. That's a great idea. And so it like 00:10:27.470 --> 00:10:29.629 doesn't even turn on. It doesn't work all the 00:10:29.629 --> 00:10:31.929 time, but sometimes it helps because that's one 00:10:31.929 --> 00:10:35.110 thing that has been really hard is he wants to 00:10:35.110 --> 00:10:38.809 be using my computer. Yes. And I'm like, one 00:10:38.809 --> 00:10:41.250 of these days you're accidentally going to like 00:10:41.250 --> 00:10:43.370 send a message. Send something too early or. 00:10:43.549 --> 00:10:45.769 Something like that. Or something crazy. Yeah. 00:10:46.169 --> 00:10:50.049 And it's one thing if you send it to like my 00:10:50.049 --> 00:10:51.870 little group chat with my coworkers who I'm pals 00:10:51.870 --> 00:10:55.149 with. They'll think it's funny. It's another 00:10:55.149 --> 00:10:57.490 thing if this is like something important. Yes. 00:10:57.769 --> 00:10:59.529 Yeah. Which is for sure what's going to happen. 00:10:59.529 --> 00:11:01.629 I feel that too. I have to put my computer up 00:11:01.629 --> 00:11:04.250 on the, like the island in our kitchen. That's 00:11:04.250 --> 00:11:06.169 what I have to do too. Because it's, then he 00:11:06.169 --> 00:11:09.230 can't get to it. Otherwise it's like, if I'm 00:11:09.230 --> 00:11:12.490 trying to sit on the couch with it or sit at 00:11:12.490 --> 00:11:15.309 the kitchen table, even he climbs up and he goes, 00:11:15.330 --> 00:11:17.730 Colty try, Colty try. And then he just like. 00:11:18.029 --> 00:11:21.289 bangs his hands on it. And then I'm like, nobody, 00:11:21.529 --> 00:11:24.990 no. Like as I'm mid email to my boss, you know, 00:11:24.990 --> 00:11:30.490 like it's, it just, I feel like I can't win sometimes. 00:11:30.789 --> 00:11:33.929 Yeah. It's rough for sure. Yeah. What are like, 00:11:34.110 --> 00:11:37.750 so obviously like it's both, it's chaos for both 00:11:37.750 --> 00:11:40.629 of us. What do you feel like are like some, some 00:11:40.629 --> 00:11:43.889 huge positive sides of it? I mean, like you said, 00:11:43.929 --> 00:11:46.529 I'm so thankful I get to like be with my kids 00:11:46.529 --> 00:11:51.159 every day. Yeah. Um, I can't imagine not doing 00:11:51.159 --> 00:11:55.600 that. Um, and anytime like we've talked about 00:11:55.600 --> 00:11:58.799 it and getting childcare, I mean, one is like, 00:11:58.820 --> 00:12:01.919 if we got childcare, my salary wouldn't even 00:12:01.919 --> 00:12:06.000 matter anymore, but it like, it feels like my 00:12:06.000 --> 00:12:07.740 heart is being ripped out. Even just like thinking 00:12:07.740 --> 00:12:09.820 about not spending all day with them, even on 00:12:09.820 --> 00:12:12.440 days like I was telling you before, before we 00:12:12.440 --> 00:12:15.519 hit record yesterday was absolutely insane. So 00:12:15.519 --> 00:12:18.539 many tears. But, like, I'm still so thankful 00:12:18.539 --> 00:12:20.899 for it. We do have child care one day a week 00:12:20.899 --> 00:12:24.820 right now, which is just my parents. Just a helpful 00:12:24.820 --> 00:12:28.279 day to get caught up. And even just to, like, 00:12:28.360 --> 00:12:31.360 reset my brain a little bit and be like, okay, 00:12:31.480 --> 00:12:35.019 I can breathe. But, yeah, so I think, like, that's 00:12:35.019 --> 00:12:38.320 a big one is just feeling so grateful that I 00:12:38.320 --> 00:12:40.940 get to be around my kids and they get to be around 00:12:40.940 --> 00:12:45.009 me instead of. like a stranger. Um, and I know 00:12:45.009 --> 00:12:46.970 that that's the best option for other people 00:12:46.970 --> 00:12:49.950 is like getting childcare, daycare, whatever. 00:12:50.350 --> 00:12:52.610 You gotta do what works for you. Yeah. Do you 00:12:52.610 --> 00:12:54.669 ever find yourself like, like I was just thinking 00:12:54.669 --> 00:12:58.129 of like the weird tension of like, I sometimes 00:12:58.129 --> 00:13:01.870 get jealous of like my husband of like, Oh, you 00:13:01.870 --> 00:13:05.169 get to go into the office every day and you, 00:13:05.250 --> 00:13:09.970 I don't know, get to socialize and But then at 00:13:09.970 --> 00:13:11.649 the same time, I'm like, I wouldn't trade this 00:13:11.649 --> 00:13:14.149 for the world because I get to be with my kids 00:13:14.149 --> 00:13:16.110 all day. The thing I'm weirdly most jealous about 00:13:16.110 --> 00:13:20.029 is his drive home. And I think when I've tried 00:13:20.029 --> 00:13:22.889 to explain it to Stuart, it's this thing of like, 00:13:23.029 --> 00:13:26.230 okay. And he works really close to where we live. 00:13:26.309 --> 00:13:29.590 So he has like, it might be 15 minutes if traffic 00:13:29.590 --> 00:13:32.169 is really backed up. So he has a really short 00:13:32.169 --> 00:13:34.590 drive home. But I was like, you have these few 00:13:34.590 --> 00:13:37.419 minutes to just like. decompress from one thing 00:13:37.419 --> 00:13:40.019 before jumping into another like you know even 00:13:40.019 --> 00:13:42.360 if it was a good day it's gonna be crazy the 00:13:42.360 --> 00:13:45.820 second you walk in but you have like these few 00:13:45.820 --> 00:13:49.340 minutes to decompress from your day to your evening 00:13:49.340 --> 00:13:52.940 where that doesn't exist for me so it's like 00:13:52.940 --> 00:13:56.120 I get up Zeta's usually up with me when I get 00:13:56.120 --> 00:13:58.059 up first thing in the morning so I like don't 00:13:58.059 --> 00:14:00.860 even have two seconds myself then then I start 00:14:00.860 --> 00:14:04.730 work then Lloyd gets up day's crazy He goes down 00:14:04.730 --> 00:14:06.789 for a nap or they both go down for a nap, whatever. 00:14:07.870 --> 00:14:10.169 I'm working while they're napping. Yeah. Then 00:14:10.169 --> 00:14:13.110 they get up. I finish up work. Yeah. Then it's 00:14:13.110 --> 00:14:15.669 on to dinner. Then it's on to bedtime. So like 00:14:15.669 --> 00:14:17.529 there's no time to decompress. So I think the 00:14:17.529 --> 00:14:20.710 thing that I'm generally most jealous of is that. 00:14:21.190 --> 00:14:22.990 And then there's definitely some days when it's 00:14:22.990 --> 00:14:25.250 like, I would like to have an adult to talk to. 00:14:25.730 --> 00:14:29.669 That's not over slack. Yeah. Yes. No, I feel 00:14:29.669 --> 00:14:32.110 that for sure. It's like, yeah, I'm jealous of 00:14:32.110 --> 00:14:35.539 that. I guess the adult interaction and like, 00:14:35.639 --> 00:14:38.700 I don't know. Like, I think this, like being 00:14:38.700 --> 00:14:42.139 a mother is a sacrifice in general. Like you're 00:14:42.139 --> 00:14:46.240 sacrificing potentially like a lot of like friendship 00:14:46.240 --> 00:14:49.419 relationships and coworker relationships. And 00:14:49.419 --> 00:14:52.840 I think sometimes, yeah, I'm like jealous of 00:14:52.840 --> 00:14:55.559 like, Oh, you went out to lunch with coworkers 00:14:55.559 --> 00:14:59.389 today. Oh, I. shoved it on crustables down my 00:14:59.389 --> 00:15:02.350 throat when i pulled chicken nuggets yeah yeah 00:15:02.350 --> 00:15:04.509 that's the other thing and this is just like 00:15:04.509 --> 00:15:07.909 a random work from home complaint steward's job 00:15:07.909 --> 00:15:12.299 gets bagels every friday and like I want a bagel. 00:15:12.299 --> 00:15:15.179 Yeah, I want a bagel. I want someone to just 00:15:15.179 --> 00:15:19.059 bring me Einsteins and give me breakfast. He's 00:15:19.059 --> 00:15:22.019 like, I'll door dash it for you. Yeah, but I 00:15:22.019 --> 00:15:24.100 have the same thing that I have every day for 00:15:24.100 --> 00:15:26.440 breakfast because my brain can't comprehend coming 00:15:26.440 --> 00:15:29.679 up with another meal. No, exactly. Yeah, I feel 00:15:29.679 --> 00:15:33.159 like I can come up with all of these complaints 00:15:33.159 --> 00:15:37.259 about working from home, but also the other side 00:15:37.259 --> 00:15:41.029 of it is like, no, I'm... I'm genuinely so grateful. 00:15:41.110 --> 00:15:45.049 And I don't think I could personally for myself, 00:15:45.149 --> 00:15:47.669 I don't think I could do a full time like an 00:15:47.669 --> 00:15:50.509 office job at this stage of life. Just like away 00:15:50.509 --> 00:15:52.590 from your kids. Yeah, away from my kids. There's 00:15:52.590 --> 00:15:56.029 so many milestones that I feel like I want to 00:15:56.029 --> 00:16:00.009 be a part of and see and just, I don't know. 00:16:00.049 --> 00:16:03.009 I feel like it's so crucial for me as a mother. 00:16:03.269 --> 00:16:05.769 Yeah. Yeah. So one of the things that I've been 00:16:05.769 --> 00:16:09.230 just thinking about a lot. and been super thankful 00:16:09.230 --> 00:16:12.009 for is Zeta doesn't like to take a bottle um 00:16:12.009 --> 00:16:15.789 and recently she's just started taking one much 00:16:15.789 --> 00:16:18.570 better my parents had her today and she took 00:16:18.570 --> 00:16:22.289 two full feeds from them which is like huge but 00:16:22.289 --> 00:16:24.710 I've been back to work for over a month now and 00:16:24.710 --> 00:16:27.309 this is the first time she's taken a full feed 00:16:27.309 --> 00:16:32.190 from pretty much anyone wow so thinking about 00:16:32.190 --> 00:16:34.250 that I'm like what would life have been like 00:16:34.250 --> 00:16:37.500 if I had to go back to the office yeah Would 00:16:37.500 --> 00:16:39.879 you have to quit your job? Would I have to quit 00:16:39.879 --> 00:16:42.799 my job? I mean, I guess it depends on, like, 00:16:42.799 --> 00:16:44.620 who your boss is and stuff like that and, like, 00:16:44.620 --> 00:16:46.440 what your job is. And there's, you know, lots 00:16:46.440 --> 00:16:50.799 of, you know, nuance, I guess, to it. But, yeah, 00:16:50.919 --> 00:16:53.019 I just haven't had to worry about that. Like, 00:16:53.080 --> 00:16:55.960 my most stressful is when my parents take her 00:16:55.960 --> 00:16:59.000 and they have brought her back to me for every 00:16:59.000 --> 00:17:01.100 time she hasn't eaten from them. I mean, they 00:17:01.100 --> 00:17:03.659 live close enough that they can. Yeah. But still, 00:17:03.700 --> 00:17:06.259 like, so that is stressful enough to know, like. 00:17:06.809 --> 00:17:08.690 even just that like they're gonna take her and 00:17:08.690 --> 00:17:10.450 they might have to like call me and be like hey 00:17:10.450 --> 00:17:12.349 we're on our way back because she's not taking 00:17:12.349 --> 00:17:14.450 a bottle but for the most part I don't have to 00:17:14.450 --> 00:17:15.869 deal with it because she's with me all the time 00:17:15.869 --> 00:17:18.109 right and so I just feed her and it's not a big 00:17:18.109 --> 00:17:20.549 deal so yeah that's one of the things that I've 00:17:20.549 --> 00:17:22.289 been super thankful for is this thing that's 00:17:22.289 --> 00:17:25.069 already stressful because i want her to take 00:17:25.069 --> 00:17:28.069 a bottle like i prefer breastfeeding on a like 00:17:28.069 --> 00:17:30.750 regular basis but i would like her to take a 00:17:30.750 --> 00:17:34.150 bottle for date nights and so i can you know 00:17:34.150 --> 00:17:36.869 you're not stressed about yeah like oh i have 00:17:36.869 --> 00:17:39.309 to get back within three hours right you know 00:17:39.309 --> 00:17:42.990 we're not it's not like cinderella and the pumpkin 00:17:42.990 --> 00:17:45.329 kind of thing which is what it feels like so 00:17:45.329 --> 00:17:47.650 it's like i do want her to take a bottle And 00:17:47.650 --> 00:17:49.569 like that whole thing has been stressful enough 00:17:49.569 --> 00:17:52.829 without the work part. Yeah. So. So then the 00:17:52.829 --> 00:17:55.130 work part on top of it. Is more stressful. And 00:17:55.130 --> 00:17:57.750 just being able to work from home has been such 00:17:57.750 --> 00:17:59.609 a blessing with that. Like, OK, I don't have 00:17:59.609 --> 00:18:02.450 like this timeline that I have to figure this 00:18:02.450 --> 00:18:05.490 out by. We're just figuring it out as we go. 00:18:05.630 --> 00:18:07.730 Yeah. Yeah. So that's been something I've been 00:18:07.730 --> 00:18:10.549 super, super thankful for. Yeah. Being able to 00:18:10.549 --> 00:18:13.410 work from home with. Yes. Yeah. Oh, gosh. Yeah. 00:18:13.490 --> 00:18:16.039 I'm so grateful for that. I feel like. I mean, 00:18:16.059 --> 00:18:18.019 we kind of chatted about it already with like 00:18:18.019 --> 00:18:22.279 with the chaos that work from home mom life is. 00:18:23.099 --> 00:18:28.539 It's like I think it's almost in my role. It 00:18:28.539 --> 00:18:31.279 would be almost more chaotic to be in office. 00:18:31.539 --> 00:18:34.940 And I know you're like your company is is has 00:18:34.940 --> 00:18:38.579 been remote for a while. So that may not be. 00:18:38.599 --> 00:18:42.230 No, but I feel the same. Just. Even thinking 00:18:42.230 --> 00:18:45.589 about like figuring out a pumping schedule and 00:18:45.589 --> 00:18:49.630 getting kids ready. Like this is actually. Go 00:18:49.630 --> 00:18:53.009 to daycare. Yeah. This is a funny thing because 00:18:53.009 --> 00:18:55.410 I just let Lloyd sleep pretty much as late as 00:18:55.410 --> 00:18:58.450 he wants to, which some days is really nice when 00:18:58.450 --> 00:19:00.329 it's like he's extra sleepy. So he sleeps till 00:19:00.329 --> 00:19:04.450 like eight. Yeah. Great. I had an extra 45 minutes, 00:19:04.490 --> 00:19:07.670 half hour to like get stuff done at work. Yeah. 00:19:07.710 --> 00:19:10.470 Before you got up and are now hungry and all 00:19:10.470 --> 00:19:13.990 of that. But when my parents pick him up, they 00:19:13.990 --> 00:19:17.430 pick him up consistently at like 7 .45. And that's 00:19:17.430 --> 00:19:19.109 always the day that I have to wake him up. Of 00:19:19.109 --> 00:19:21.809 course. It's never the day that he is up at 6 00:19:21.809 --> 00:19:23.549 .30. Yeah. It's always the day that I'm like, 00:19:23.630 --> 00:19:27.329 if I wasn't waking him up, he'd sleep till like 00:19:27.329 --> 00:19:31.369 8 or 8 .30 for sure. Of course. But then again, 00:19:31.690 --> 00:19:34.289 just even thinking about that on a daily basis. 00:19:35.210 --> 00:19:37.849 Yeah. I can't. Like having to. It would be so 00:19:37.849 --> 00:19:40.470 much more chaotic to like. Yes. Have to get you 00:19:40.470 --> 00:19:44.470 up and. Yeah. I would say like, so on, on Tuesdays, 00:19:44.470 --> 00:19:47.069 I go into the office on Tuesdays and Thursdays. 00:19:47.289 --> 00:19:50.460 Um, and on Tuesdays we. we take our kids over 00:19:50.460 --> 00:19:53.980 to Mimi's house, which is, um, one of, uh, our 00:19:53.980 --> 00:19:59.180 coworkers moms who is now Mimi. And she, uh, 00:19:59.400 --> 00:20:02.420 takes care of the boys for me for like six hours 00:20:02.420 --> 00:20:05.000 that I can go into the office. But those mornings 00:20:05.000 --> 00:20:07.700 are always so hectic trying to get out of the 00:20:07.700 --> 00:20:11.119 house and like packing everything that the boys 00:20:11.119 --> 00:20:15.880 need for the day. Um, diapers, uh, bottles, um, 00:20:16.119 --> 00:20:19.430 food for Colt. Um, Changes of clothes for both 00:20:19.430 --> 00:20:21.170 boys. Like, blankets. Trying to make sure you 00:20:21.170 --> 00:20:24.750 didn't forget anything. Yeah. Pacifiers. A bouncer 00:20:24.750 --> 00:20:28.390 for Cruz. Like, just there's so many things. 00:20:28.450 --> 00:20:32.490 Does Colt have, like, his item? Like, his, like, 00:20:32.569 --> 00:20:35.349 blanket? No. Like, he has a bunch of blankets 00:20:35.349 --> 00:20:37.630 that he really likes. But he doesn't have, like, 00:20:37.809 --> 00:20:39.250 a stuffed animal or something like that. No. 00:20:39.250 --> 00:20:44.470 Because Lloyd has one. Yeah. And so he won't 00:20:44.470 --> 00:20:47.089 sleep without it. Yeah. So if you forget that. 00:20:47.089 --> 00:20:48.750 So if we forget it. And I can't imagine trying 00:20:48.750 --> 00:20:51.630 to do that every day. No. Or one week, my parents 00:20:51.630 --> 00:20:53.690 forgot to put it back in the bag. And thankfully, 00:20:53.730 --> 00:20:58.009 they, like, saw it pretty quick. And they were 00:20:58.009 --> 00:20:59.549 already out running errands, so they brought 00:20:59.549 --> 00:21:03.200 it by for us. Oh, good. But you're like, he wouldn't 00:21:03.200 --> 00:21:06.019 have slept that night without it. For sure, one 00:21:06.019 --> 00:21:08.279 of us would have had to drive to my parents' 00:21:08.380 --> 00:21:11.779 house. And if it's something like daycare, you 00:21:11.779 --> 00:21:16.079 can't do that, right? No. So I feel like, yeah, 00:21:16.140 --> 00:21:18.700 I'm so grateful for the fact that I don't have 00:21:18.700 --> 00:21:21.099 to pack my kids up and take them somewhere every 00:21:21.099 --> 00:21:25.940 single day. And going back to the, I feel like 00:21:25.940 --> 00:21:28.319 I'm just so grateful that I get to be around 00:21:28.319 --> 00:21:31.160 my kids so much. I already am sad thinking about, 00:21:31.769 --> 00:21:34.029 my kids growing up and like potentially going 00:21:34.029 --> 00:21:37.829 to like school. And that makes, just makes me 00:21:37.829 --> 00:21:39.890 sad in general to like be away from them for 00:21:39.890 --> 00:21:42.029 seven hours. I have a friend who, she homeschools 00:21:42.029 --> 00:21:44.150 her kids and I'm pretty sure that's half the 00:21:44.150 --> 00:21:46.049 reason. And she's like, yeah. I just didn't want 00:21:46.049 --> 00:21:48.349 to be away from them. She's like, I already thought 00:21:48.349 --> 00:21:51.630 I would. But yeah, I feel that too where I'm 00:21:51.630 --> 00:21:53.869 like, I don't want to be away from my kids. No, 00:21:53.869 --> 00:21:56.910 no. When a lot of days I'm like, oh, if I could 00:21:56.910 --> 00:21:59.710 just get a break for like, I just need like an 00:21:59.710 --> 00:22:02.329 hour. But then they go down for a nap and you're 00:22:02.329 --> 00:22:04.809 like, oh, I miss you. I miss you. I want to hang 00:22:04.809 --> 00:22:09.250 out with you. Yeah. It's such a weird, I don't 00:22:09.250 --> 00:22:11.190 even know what to call it, but just like a tension 00:22:11.190 --> 00:22:15.380 of like. I want, I want a break. Like I need 00:22:15.380 --> 00:22:18.259 a break because I need to get stuff done for 00:22:18.259 --> 00:22:22.480 work. But also like, no, I don't, I don't want 00:22:22.480 --> 00:22:25.740 a break from my kids. I don't. And I don't know 00:22:25.740 --> 00:22:28.579 what that's called, but. Yeah, I feel that too. 00:22:28.700 --> 00:22:30.839 And I think that's pretty. A pretty normal thing. 00:22:30.839 --> 00:22:33.839 Like every mom I talk to. Like hormones or. I 00:22:33.839 --> 00:22:36.319 don't know. Cause I think it is just like this. 00:22:36.440 --> 00:22:40.059 And this isn't even specific to being. a working 00:22:40.059 --> 00:22:43.460 work from home mom or a working mom it's just 00:22:43.460 --> 00:22:46.220 like you love your kids so much and want to be 00:22:46.220 --> 00:22:48.480 around them all the time but then realistically 00:22:48.480 --> 00:22:50.720 like we do need a break from our kids sometimes 00:22:50.720 --> 00:22:53.079 just to like take care of ourselves and breathe 00:22:53.079 --> 00:22:57.559 outside of also getting work done yeah I am I 00:22:57.559 --> 00:23:01.160 do find like the fact that my job is hybrid I 00:23:01.160 --> 00:23:04.259 do find that I come back in especially on Tuesdays 00:23:04.259 --> 00:23:06.579 when like the boys go to child care for six hours 00:23:06.579 --> 00:23:10.410 I actually come home like almost refreshed in 00:23:10.410 --> 00:23:13.690 a sense yeah like that's my kind of like break 00:23:13.690 --> 00:23:16.650 oh even though it's not a break but like but 00:23:16.650 --> 00:23:18.589 then even when we were talking a little earlier 00:23:18.589 --> 00:23:21.410 about like oh you get to like be around adults 00:23:21.410 --> 00:23:25.490 yeah and have adult conversations and i think 00:23:25.490 --> 00:23:27.490 you work with some people you like yeah i'm pretty 00:23:27.490 --> 00:23:28.910 sure you're friends you have friends at work 00:23:28.910 --> 00:23:31.950 and um although it's like i'm still working right 00:23:31.950 --> 00:23:36.029 but that can be really like refilling even i 00:23:36.029 --> 00:23:40.710 have One of my coworkers, she very rudely doesn't 00:23:40.710 --> 00:23:43.289 live in Colorado. That's mean. Rebecca, I'm calling 00:23:43.289 --> 00:23:47.410 you out. But she asked me the other day to jump 00:23:47.410 --> 00:23:50.369 on a call for something just for like five minutes 00:23:50.369 --> 00:23:52.690 to figure something out. And even just talking 00:23:52.690 --> 00:23:55.190 to her for a couple minutes was super refreshing. 00:23:55.849 --> 00:23:58.890 So like it is just like a little bit of you're 00:23:58.890 --> 00:24:01.450 talking to adults in general. But then also like 00:24:01.450 --> 00:24:04.789 if you are working with people that you consider 00:24:04.789 --> 00:24:08.380 friends. That is super refreshing and rejuvenating. 00:24:08.380 --> 00:24:11.319 Yeah. Yeah. No matter what. Yeah. Oh, for sure. 00:24:11.380 --> 00:24:13.700 I feel like I, yeah, I'm a better mom coming 00:24:13.700 --> 00:24:17.180 home those days. And I'm like genuinely so excited 00:24:17.180 --> 00:24:20.140 to see my kids. Yeah. And be with them. And it's 00:24:20.140 --> 00:24:23.410 always nice to like. Be excited to see your kid. 00:24:24.150 --> 00:24:27.130 It's like so exciting when I see them and they 00:24:27.130 --> 00:24:29.829 see me and they're excited and I'm excited. And 00:24:29.829 --> 00:24:31.990 like you're not getting irritated with them. 00:24:32.029 --> 00:24:34.509 I think it's part of it. I think I already said 00:24:34.509 --> 00:24:36.789 this on this episode. I know we were talking 00:24:36.789 --> 00:24:39.490 about it a little bit ago. Yesterday was a rough 00:24:39.490 --> 00:24:42.109 day at our house. And then today was the day 00:24:42.109 --> 00:24:44.329 my parents took them, which I think worked out 00:24:44.329 --> 00:24:46.740 really well. And yeah, so then when they got 00:24:46.740 --> 00:24:48.700 home today, I was just like so excited. I was 00:24:48.700 --> 00:24:51.339 like, I'm not irritated with you. So I'm, which 00:24:51.339 --> 00:24:54.720 makes me happy. Yep. And that break was super, 00:24:54.779 --> 00:24:58.839 was super good just because it like, it's almost 00:24:58.839 --> 00:25:00.500 like you, your brain can catch up and be like, 00:25:00.599 --> 00:25:02.839 oh yeah, I like these people. Yes. It's healthy. 00:25:02.880 --> 00:25:05.200 I mean, if you're around someone 24 seven, no 00:25:05.200 --> 00:25:07.880 matter who it is, you're going to get annoyed. 00:25:08.440 --> 00:25:10.779 Right. Which is like, I have that tension in 00:25:10.779 --> 00:25:14.420 my head of like. No, these are my kids. I shouldn't 00:25:14.420 --> 00:25:15.779 get annoyed with them. No, I shouldn't get annoyed. 00:25:16.079 --> 00:25:18.039 But they're humans and humans are annoying sometimes. 00:25:18.279 --> 00:25:21.259 Yeah, and we all need a little bit of a breather 00:25:21.259 --> 00:25:24.799 sometimes. Okay, I had a thought whenever you 00:25:24.799 --> 00:25:27.059 were talking about like talking to your coworker 00:25:27.059 --> 00:25:30.220 on the phone. How have you, because you probably 00:25:30.220 --> 00:25:32.759 have to like be on Zoom meetings and stuff occasionally 00:25:32.759 --> 00:25:39.059 or like how have you managed that? So, I mean, 00:25:39.099 --> 00:25:42.690 I surprisingly, I don't have that many. That's 00:25:42.690 --> 00:25:45.750 good. Sort of, yeah. I do, so I usually have 00:25:45.750 --> 00:25:48.950 about three a week, which isn't too bad. If I 00:25:48.950 --> 00:25:50.769 am in charge of scheduling them, I will schedule 00:25:50.769 --> 00:25:53.109 them during nap time. During nap time, yep. And 00:25:53.109 --> 00:25:55.490 then that was, since my parents are taking the 00:25:55.490 --> 00:25:57.630 kids one day a week, that was one thing, when 00:25:57.630 --> 00:25:59.670 they asked what day, I was like, I'm going to 00:25:59.670 --> 00:26:02.500 try to. have you take them on days that I'm pretty 00:26:02.500 --> 00:26:05.519 sure or know I'm gonna have meetings yeah so 00:26:05.519 --> 00:26:08.039 I try to do it during nap time or during days 00:26:08.039 --> 00:26:12.220 I know I have child care um and then I feel this 00:26:12.220 --> 00:26:14.220 is something that I feel super super blessed 00:26:14.220 --> 00:26:17.900 by um so my boss changed while I was out and 00:26:17.900 --> 00:26:23.319 my first one -on -one with her coming back was 00:26:23.319 --> 00:26:27.660 a bad timing so typically it will be on a day 00:26:27.660 --> 00:26:29.990 that I have child care, but the first one, it 00:26:29.990 --> 00:26:32.549 just happened to be on a day that I didn't. And 00:26:32.549 --> 00:26:35.829 Lloyd was just like climbing all over me and 00:26:35.829 --> 00:26:39.430 just wanted to be a part of things. And she told 00:26:39.430 --> 00:26:42.210 me that she's like, hey, you're a mom. I get 00:26:42.210 --> 00:26:45.910 it. And I'm just going to keep talking and act 00:26:45.910 --> 00:26:47.390 like your kids aren't there. And if you need 00:26:47.390 --> 00:26:49.680 to take a moment to like. deal with something 00:26:49.680 --> 00:26:52.240 just let me know yeah so she's super understanding 00:26:52.240 --> 00:26:54.519 which i'm really grateful for because i know 00:26:54.519 --> 00:26:57.740 not everyone has no situation like that yeah 00:26:57.740 --> 00:27:00.119 um and i know she doesn't have kids but other 00:27:00.119 --> 00:27:02.380 people on the team have kids and she's like it's 00:27:02.380 --> 00:27:05.019 just a reality of like the stage of life and 00:27:05.019 --> 00:27:08.660 yeah you i mean it's not like all moms can not 00:27:08.660 --> 00:27:11.220 work like right financially you got to do what 00:27:11.220 --> 00:27:13.680 you got to do so yeah so i'm really grateful 00:27:14.490 --> 00:27:16.869 that I have a super understanding boss. But for 00:27:16.869 --> 00:27:19.170 the most part, like when it comes to Zoom meetings, 00:27:19.309 --> 00:27:22.849 if it's in my control, I try to schedule it around 00:27:22.849 --> 00:27:27.630 naps and stuff like that. Yeah, that's the same 00:27:27.630 --> 00:27:29.829 for me. Thankfully, like with my role, I'm not 00:27:29.829 --> 00:27:33.670 on Zoom meetings a ton. And like if it has to, 00:27:33.710 --> 00:27:36.089 I'll schedule it for an in -person meeting on 00:27:36.089 --> 00:27:39.529 Tuesday or Thursday. But the rare occasion I 00:27:39.529 --> 00:27:43.140 have to hop on a Zoom or a Teams call. I usually 00:27:43.140 --> 00:27:46.220 try to schedule it during nap time or I have 00:27:46.220 --> 00:27:50.700 gone into it like, hey, my kid is like he's watching 00:27:50.700 --> 00:27:53.240 a show right now. There's there's the potential 00:27:53.240 --> 00:27:56.819 that he might interrupt us for a second. But 00:27:56.819 --> 00:27:59.839 I'm going to do the best that I can. Yeah. Yeah. 00:27:59.920 --> 00:28:02.700 And I think for the most part, people are understanding. 00:28:02.940 --> 00:28:04.380 I mean, there's always the people who are a little 00:28:04.380 --> 00:28:07.380 bit crazy, but you would hope so. And again, 00:28:07.440 --> 00:28:10.650 this age is really tough because. You can't, 00:28:10.650 --> 00:28:11.970 like, guarantee that they're just going to sit 00:28:11.970 --> 00:28:14.210 and watch their show or whatever. No, no. And, 00:28:14.349 --> 00:28:16.950 like, for Cole, it's like, yeah, he wants to 00:28:16.950 --> 00:28:20.369 be a part and try everything. So, like, oh, here's, 00:28:20.369 --> 00:28:23.349 like, a friendly voice on the Zoom call. Cool 00:28:23.349 --> 00:28:26.390 to try. Cole FaceTimes family. Yes, family all 00:28:26.390 --> 00:28:28.890 the time. And Lloyd, the same thing. We FaceTime 00:28:28.890 --> 00:28:31.190 my sister once a week. So, like, they understand 00:28:31.190 --> 00:28:34.309 what this is to an extent. So, like, obviously 00:28:34.309 --> 00:28:35.890 they want to be involved because they're involved 00:28:35.890 --> 00:28:38.180 in. Other times. So why would they not be involved 00:28:38.180 --> 00:28:40.640 this time? Yeah. There was actually a phone call. 00:28:40.859 --> 00:28:42.680 It was probably, like, two weeks ago. I was working, 00:28:42.779 --> 00:28:45.799 and my boss called me. And he was, like, asking 00:28:45.799 --> 00:28:49.180 me to do a couple things. And Colt was, like, 00:28:49.180 --> 00:28:51.980 trying to grab the phone. And he was, like, talking. 00:28:52.019 --> 00:28:53.920 He's, like, Colty, try it. Colt. No. And then 00:28:53.920 --> 00:28:55.480 he was, like, Daddy, Daddy. He thought it was 00:28:55.480 --> 00:28:59.019 his dad on the phone. And I, like, I was, like. 00:28:59.380 --> 00:29:03.400 And I, like, I had to tell Carl. I was, like. 00:29:03.680 --> 00:29:05.799 I'm sorry, hold on. And I was like, Colt, this 00:29:05.799 --> 00:29:08.799 is mommy's boss. Like this is a work phone call 00:29:08.799 --> 00:29:14.039 and we can call daddy after. And then he did 00:29:14.039 --> 00:29:17.660 thankfully understand it. He wasn't super happy 00:29:17.660 --> 00:29:20.819 about it. But I was like, those moments are so 00:29:20.819 --> 00:29:23.519 hard because I'm like, I have the few times a 00:29:23.519 --> 00:29:25.339 day where I have to take a phone call or whatever. 00:29:25.440 --> 00:29:29.000 It's like, no. Like this is serious. Like I have 00:29:29.000 --> 00:29:32.180 to be a good employee too. Yeah. And I think 00:29:32.180 --> 00:29:34.259 that's a battle that I'm struggling with a little 00:29:34.259 --> 00:29:36.599 bit with the work from home life is like, no, 00:29:36.680 --> 00:29:39.720 I'm trying to be a really good mom and I'm also 00:29:39.720 --> 00:29:42.279 trying to be a really good employee. Yeah. Well, 00:29:42.279 --> 00:29:45.359 it's tough because ultimately you are replaceable 00:29:45.359 --> 00:29:48.339 at work. For sure. Right. So you want to prioritize 00:29:48.339 --> 00:29:51.200 being a mom, but then also. Like I need this 00:29:51.200 --> 00:29:53.519 job. Right. At the same time. In order to be 00:29:53.519 --> 00:29:56.529 a good mom, you also need to. keep this job yeah 00:29:56.529 --> 00:30:00.329 so yeah I feel have you found any like pro tips 00:30:00.329 --> 00:30:02.930 or things that have just like made life easier 00:30:02.930 --> 00:30:05.470 as you're working from home honestly like you 00:30:05.470 --> 00:30:07.190 kind of already already talked about it a little 00:30:07.190 --> 00:30:10.109 bit so thankfully like most of my work is like 00:30:10.109 --> 00:30:12.589 administrative work so I'm doing a lot of emails 00:30:12.589 --> 00:30:14.869 I'm doing a lot of like scheduling and calendaring 00:30:14.869 --> 00:30:19.420 and thankfully I can get a good chunk of work 00:30:19.420 --> 00:30:22.960 done during nap time. And I found that like, 00:30:22.980 --> 00:30:26.099 as long as I'm fully available and like ready 00:30:26.099 --> 00:30:29.579 to get stuff done in the nine to five, I can 00:30:29.579 --> 00:30:33.339 crank out a ton of work in those two hours that 00:30:33.339 --> 00:30:37.000 I get during nap time. And I don't think I'm 00:30:37.000 --> 00:30:39.940 like the best administrative assistant in the 00:30:39.940 --> 00:30:44.309 world, but I think that I'm fast. Okay. And I 00:30:44.309 --> 00:30:46.109 think that's, I mean, that's not really a tip, 00:30:46.210 --> 00:30:48.910 but it's just like what's worked kind of for 00:30:48.910 --> 00:30:55.029 me. But I also have found if I can, I set a setting 00:30:55.029 --> 00:30:57.950 on my computer where I can annotate my emails 00:30:57.950 --> 00:31:01.910 so I can talk my emails rather than typing them. 00:31:02.430 --> 00:31:04.690 And that's been a setting that has helped me 00:31:04.690 --> 00:31:08.470 because then I can get it done quicker, if that 00:31:08.470 --> 00:31:11.430 makes sense. But now that Colt likes to talk 00:31:11.430 --> 00:31:14.730 and stuff, he'll try to like. add some verbiage 00:31:14.730 --> 00:31:17.130 in there too. So there's a nice like mama. Yeah. 00:31:17.589 --> 00:31:21.150 And now Cruz is adding to the verbiage too. Yeah. 00:31:21.170 --> 00:31:23.549 He's got a lot to say. Yeah. Yeah. But what about 00:31:23.549 --> 00:31:26.369 you? I think, so a couple things that have helped 00:31:26.369 --> 00:31:31.349 me is Lloyd likes books and books are really 00:31:31.349 --> 00:31:36.490 quick most of the time. Yeah. So that can be 00:31:36.490 --> 00:31:39.210 helpful to be like, he'll bring me a book and 00:31:39.210 --> 00:31:42.279 we can read it. And that's like two minutes between 00:31:42.279 --> 00:31:44.559 emails kind of thing. You're like, okay, let's 00:31:44.559 --> 00:31:46.980 read that book. Yeah, and then he feels less 00:31:46.980 --> 00:31:49.759 like I'm ignoring him. And I'm like, okay, go 00:31:49.759 --> 00:31:52.700 pick another book. And then he'll take however 00:31:52.700 --> 00:31:54.980 long picking another book. The thing that's tough 00:31:54.980 --> 00:31:56.799 about that is then there are times when he's 00:31:56.799 --> 00:32:01.700 like. Okay, Cruz. Yes, we hear you, buddy. Cruz 00:32:01.700 --> 00:32:03.859 has all of his pro tips. It's funny because it's 00:32:03.859 --> 00:32:07.259 like literally. 10 15 at night and he's just 00:32:07.259 --> 00:32:11.579 ready right now yeah the book thing is hard i 00:32:11.579 --> 00:32:14.700 think yeah it was yesterday the day before i 00:32:14.700 --> 00:32:17.420 don't know one day he just i was like in the 00:32:17.420 --> 00:32:20.220 middle of something like crazy for work and he 00:32:20.220 --> 00:32:22.859 just kept coming up to me mama read it mama read 00:32:22.859 --> 00:32:26.579 it i want to read it when i get a second yeah 00:32:26.579 --> 00:32:31.000 yeah um so yeah books another one this is kind 00:32:31.000 --> 00:32:34.559 of a This is specific to nursing, a Bluetooth 00:32:34.559 --> 00:32:38.039 keyboard. Oh, that's smart. Because then you 00:32:38.039 --> 00:32:39.940 don't have to have your laptop right there and 00:32:39.940 --> 00:32:42.059 you can just have the keyboard and you can nurse 00:32:42.059 --> 00:32:43.559 and type at the same time. That's actually so 00:32:43.559 --> 00:32:47.000 smart. Okay, going off of that too. And if you 00:32:47.000 --> 00:32:48.779 can get your company to pay for it, even better. 00:32:49.400 --> 00:32:53.180 Okay, my tip kind of off of that is like having 00:32:53.180 --> 00:32:56.730 all of my programs on my phone. And so I do a 00:32:56.730 --> 00:33:00.730 lot of emails on my phone and like Teams and 00:33:00.730 --> 00:33:05.150 stuff. Yeah. I definitely have – I can't do everything 00:33:05.150 --> 00:33:07.150 from my phone, but I have Slack from my phone. 00:33:07.150 --> 00:33:10.750 Yeah. So I can interact with like my team. Yeah. 00:33:11.230 --> 00:33:14.549 That's so nice. That's like, like I hate because 00:33:14.549 --> 00:33:17.849 my toddler, like he cannot separate like, oh, 00:33:17.890 --> 00:33:20.210 is mom just scrolling on her phone or is she 00:33:20.210 --> 00:33:23.109 working at this point? And so I try to explain 00:33:23.109 --> 00:33:24.970 to him like, oh, mommy's working on an email 00:33:24.970 --> 00:33:27.230 right now for work. I'll be done in a second. 00:33:28.210 --> 00:33:30.789 So like that part is hard for me where I'm like, 00:33:30.829 --> 00:33:33.309 he just thinks I'm just like on my phone and 00:33:33.309 --> 00:33:36.349 just like not paying attention to him. So that's 00:33:36.349 --> 00:33:38.990 the one downside of like working on my phone. 00:33:39.150 --> 00:33:41.690 Which also like. that is one of the things that 00:33:41.690 --> 00:33:43.890 i have a hard time with phones in general yeah 00:33:43.890 --> 00:33:47.289 because it's like what it what it portrays i 00:33:47.289 --> 00:33:49.049 guess no matter what you're doing it looks like 00:33:49.049 --> 00:33:51.029 you're just scrolling instagram for sure it's 00:33:51.029 --> 00:33:52.849 like you could be paying the bills right right 00:33:52.849 --> 00:33:55.529 you could be paying the bills and yeah there's 00:33:55.529 --> 00:33:57.829 so many things that i do on my phone like again 00:33:57.829 --> 00:33:59.910 paying bills putting our grocery list together 00:33:59.910 --> 00:34:02.829 clipping coupons for our grocery list yeah uh 00:34:04.859 --> 00:34:07.059 yeah so many things like that that it's like 00:34:07.059 --> 00:34:09.579 no this is a part of like keeping our family 00:34:09.579 --> 00:34:13.079 together and going but it just looks like you're 00:34:13.079 --> 00:34:15.340 just like not paying attention to your child 00:34:15.340 --> 00:34:18.699 yeah yeah so that's rough yeah um another one 00:34:18.699 --> 00:34:23.900 is just easy snacks and meals like we have the 00:34:23.900 --> 00:34:26.699 exact same breakfast every single day nice what's 00:34:26.699 --> 00:34:28.780 your go -to breakfast we do cheesy scrambled 00:34:28.780 --> 00:34:33.059 eggs nice sausage and then the fruit is like 00:34:33.059 --> 00:34:35.159 rotates yeah rotates just like depending on what 00:34:35.159 --> 00:34:36.739 i bought that week that's actually very similar 00:34:36.739 --> 00:34:38.659 to our breakfast but yeah just not having to 00:34:38.659 --> 00:34:41.519 make that decision it's like okay i know this 00:34:41.519 --> 00:34:43.860 is what we're gonna have it's all pretty easy 00:34:43.860 --> 00:34:48.420 to make yeah you guys have a go -to lunch That 00:34:48.420 --> 00:34:51.000 we kind of switch out a little bit. But what 00:34:51.000 --> 00:34:54.639 I try to do is have like one or two for the week. 00:34:55.400 --> 00:34:57.579 So it's like this week we're going to have egg 00:34:57.579 --> 00:35:00.699 salad or something like that. And then, you know, 00:35:00.699 --> 00:35:02.360 there might be some like leftovers or chicken 00:35:02.360 --> 00:35:04.739 nuggets thrown in or something. But again, so 00:35:04.739 --> 00:35:07.320 that way it's just like I don't have to like 00:35:07.320 --> 00:35:09.960 make that decision. Yeah. I was like, what are 00:35:09.960 --> 00:35:13.619 we going to eat? Because you just need. Even 00:35:13.619 --> 00:35:16.920 if I wasn't working, having those decisions made 00:35:16.920 --> 00:35:19.719 ahead of time makes life so much easier. Yeah. 00:35:19.800 --> 00:35:23.619 I do think like working from home, you're balancing 00:35:23.619 --> 00:35:28.820 so many things. You're prepping lunches, breakfast, 00:35:29.179 --> 00:35:34.960 like all these things. And I argue, I think work 00:35:34.960 --> 00:35:38.920 from home. parents whether you're a mom or a 00:35:38.920 --> 00:35:41.559 dad are actually better employees like if you're 00:35:41.559 --> 00:35:45.019 doing your job successfully and well yeah like 00:35:45.019 --> 00:35:47.900 you're actually a potentially a better employee 00:35:47.900 --> 00:35:52.900 because you are managing so many so like being 00:35:52.900 --> 00:35:56.079 a parent is a full -time job also you're working 00:35:56.079 --> 00:36:00.820 a full -time job simultaneously yeah yeah so 00:36:00.820 --> 00:36:03.980 i would argue that you're actually a better employee 00:36:03.980 --> 00:36:07.190 than Yeah. And a lot of people might be controversial, 00:36:07.329 --> 00:36:11.329 but. Yeah. I mean, I know for me, a lot of it 00:36:11.329 --> 00:36:14.670 is like, I feel self -conscious isn't even the 00:36:14.670 --> 00:36:19.090 right word, but I'm very aware of it of like, 00:36:19.190 --> 00:36:21.889 I don't want to seem like I'm slacking because 00:36:21.889 --> 00:36:26.369 of this. So the moments that I get to work really 00:36:26.369 --> 00:36:29.230 hard, I'm going to. Yeah. Where like, honestly, 00:36:29.369 --> 00:36:33.130 I feel like even before, like, not that I didn't 00:36:33.130 --> 00:36:36.320 work hard. you know, before I had kids. But the 00:36:36.320 --> 00:36:40.579 pressure of like that isn't there as much, you 00:36:40.579 --> 00:36:42.820 know, where it's like, okay, it's expected that 00:36:42.820 --> 00:36:44.860 I'm going to do my job. Like no one's expecting 00:36:44.860 --> 00:36:50.179 that I'm distracted necessarily. Whereas if people 00:36:50.179 --> 00:36:52.880 know you're at home with your kids. Whether they 00:36:52.880 --> 00:36:54.900 think it or not, in my mind, they're like, oh, 00:36:55.039 --> 00:36:57.559 is she really getting enough work done or whatever? 00:36:58.199 --> 00:37:01.400 I guess she really even working. Right. Yes. 00:37:01.619 --> 00:37:04.980 So I think I'm hyper aware of that. And I try 00:37:04.980 --> 00:37:09.860 to take advantage of the time that I have to 00:37:09.860 --> 00:37:12.559 get a bunch of stuff done. Yeah. I think I'm 00:37:12.559 --> 00:37:15.239 hyper aware of how quickly I respond to things, 00:37:15.300 --> 00:37:19.280 especially team's messages. I always try to respond 00:37:19.280 --> 00:37:21.159 as quickly as I can. But when I'm working from 00:37:21.159 --> 00:37:23.960 home, I'm like, okay, I'm trying to be hyper 00:37:23.960 --> 00:37:25.840 aware of like, oh, I need to respond quickly. 00:37:26.119 --> 00:37:30.840 Right. So it like portrays like, no, I am. I 00:37:30.840 --> 00:37:34.260 am active. I'm working. I'm working and I'm like 00:37:34.260 --> 00:37:38.719 managing the best that I can. Yeah. So, but it's 00:37:38.719 --> 00:37:42.599 not, I mean, it's not easy. No. Not at all. Like 00:37:42.599 --> 00:37:45.619 the most ideal situation I could have dreamed 00:37:45.619 --> 00:37:49.300 up. like having to work i think the most ideal 00:37:49.300 --> 00:37:52.079 situation would be maybe that i don't have to 00:37:52.079 --> 00:37:55.019 work but like in this season of life like financially 00:37:55.019 --> 00:37:57.659 that's what we have to do yeah but it's yeah 00:37:57.659 --> 00:38:00.760 but it's just kind of the way it is right now 00:38:00.760 --> 00:38:06.239 and it's the most ideal for the right now yeah 00:38:06.239 --> 00:38:10.599 yeah yeah i would agree for us um again i'm super 00:38:10.599 --> 00:38:13.699 thankful i get to be with my kids all day And 00:38:13.699 --> 00:38:16.300 it is really hard. I texted you the other day. 00:38:16.619 --> 00:38:19.639 I was like, I honestly can get less done when 00:38:19.639 --> 00:38:22.139 the kids aren't around because it's just too 00:38:22.139 --> 00:38:26.300 quiet. Yeah. Like the house is still and it's 00:38:26.300 --> 00:38:28.219 like almost. You're like, oh, I'm in my thoughts 00:38:28.219 --> 00:38:32.099 now. Yeah. Like, well, I haven't had time to 00:38:32.099 --> 00:38:36.820 think to myself in so long. Yeah. It's too quiet. 00:38:37.300 --> 00:38:40.320 It's almost uncomfortable. Yep. yeah you like 00:38:40.320 --> 00:38:43.159 just learn to thrive in the chaos yeah you don't 00:38:43.159 --> 00:38:45.260 even know when that when you learn to do that 00:38:45.260 --> 00:38:48.900 you just no you just do it yeah yeah would you 00:38:48.900 --> 00:38:53.619 say it was easier to hop back into work after 00:38:53.619 --> 00:38:57.300 this maternity leave or the last maternity leave 00:38:57.300 --> 00:39:01.159 like finding your rhythm I guess I don't know 00:39:01.159 --> 00:39:03.019 because I feel like there were different challenges 00:39:03.019 --> 00:39:06.420 yeah Right. So my last one, actually my first 00:39:06.420 --> 00:39:09.000 couple of days back, there was like a conference 00:39:09.000 --> 00:39:13.159 in Denver. So I actually was like leaving, which 00:39:13.159 --> 00:39:15.900 I think was really good because I was able to 00:39:15.900 --> 00:39:18.940 just like really be separate. Yeah. Like try 00:39:18.940 --> 00:39:21.739 to get your mind set back. Yeah. And I like got 00:39:21.739 --> 00:39:24.820 to see all my coworkers and stuff like that. 00:39:26.889 --> 00:39:29.670 With just one kid and just one kid who's pretty 00:39:29.670 --> 00:39:32.809 little, it's much easier, right? So it's like, 00:39:32.909 --> 00:39:36.789 oh, your activity is like laying on your little 00:39:36.789 --> 00:39:40.510 baby gym mat thing, you know, or like I'm going 00:39:40.510 --> 00:39:42.969 to hand you a rattle and play with you, you know, 00:39:42.969 --> 00:39:45.670 and it's a lot easier. And this time, of course, 00:39:45.690 --> 00:39:49.869 the child is with two kids now. And Lloyd grew 00:39:49.869 --> 00:39:52.570 up a lot since I left. You know, it's like that 00:39:52.570 --> 00:39:56.610 18 months to two years is a huge age difference. 00:39:57.230 --> 00:40:00.469 A lot of things happen in that time. Yeah. What 00:40:00.469 --> 00:40:03.389 they're interested in, what they're doing, what 00:40:03.389 --> 00:40:06.070 they're capable of, all of that. Yeah. So I think 00:40:06.070 --> 00:40:09.550 this time, I guess, I guess I think this time 00:40:09.550 --> 00:40:14.960 was harder mostly because now like. Lloyd's old 00:40:14.960 --> 00:40:16.719 enough that he understands that I wasn't working 00:40:16.719 --> 00:40:18.739 and now I am working. Or, like, at least that 00:40:18.739 --> 00:40:21.340 he had more time with me than he does. He's like, 00:40:21.340 --> 00:40:23.699 I don't get it. What happened? Whereas, like, 00:40:23.760 --> 00:40:26.980 with the little, little ones, they don't really 00:40:26.980 --> 00:40:28.519 register that. You know, I'm sure they register 00:40:28.519 --> 00:40:30.480 to an extent, but they don't really register 00:40:30.480 --> 00:40:35.380 that. Yeah, what about you? I would say, honestly, 00:40:35.460 --> 00:40:38.420 I would say that hopping back into work after 00:40:38.420 --> 00:40:42.260 just Colt was harder for me. Mostly because, 00:40:42.460 --> 00:40:46.449 like, I just was, I like the whole work from 00:40:46.449 --> 00:40:51.250 home thing was new. And then like figuring out 00:40:51.250 --> 00:40:53.630 how to take care of a child at the same time 00:40:53.630 --> 00:40:57.630 was like, it just, I think it was kind of like 00:40:57.630 --> 00:41:00.530 probably totally internally pressure, like pressure 00:41:00.530 --> 00:41:03.730 that I put on myself within it. And then like, 00:41:03.869 --> 00:41:07.530 I, my role was slightly different too. And so 00:41:07.530 --> 00:41:10.710 I was like doing a lot more like. zoom calls, 00:41:10.829 --> 00:41:13.829 like meetings I had to be in. Um, and so that 00:41:13.829 --> 00:41:16.090 was harder cause I was like hopping on team's 00:41:16.090 --> 00:41:18.969 calls and like having Colton, the carrier. And 00:41:18.969 --> 00:41:20.989 like, if he was fussy, I'm just like bouncing, 00:41:21.030 --> 00:41:24.289 like muting myself, bouncing and like trying 00:41:24.289 --> 00:41:30.530 to do. Yeah. And now like I'm not on nearly as 00:41:30.530 --> 00:41:33.269 many calls, but I just feel like maybe I like 00:41:33.269 --> 00:41:37.800 had found my rhythm over time. And now it's just 00:41:37.800 --> 00:41:40.179 like the addition of another child rather than 00:41:40.179 --> 00:41:44.400 like a child and like new work from home situation. 00:41:45.360 --> 00:41:49.639 Yeah. I would say after just our first was born 00:41:49.639 --> 00:41:53.539 was harder for me. That makes sense. But it's 00:41:53.539 --> 00:41:56.340 still, I mean, there's hard about both situations. 00:41:56.340 --> 00:41:59.019 Yeah. I mean, both are challenging for different 00:41:59.019 --> 00:42:03.949 reasons. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's 00:42:03.949 --> 00:42:06.250 kind of like a little bit, I guess, of our experiences 00:42:06.250 --> 00:42:09.730 working from home and like the positives, the 00:42:09.730 --> 00:42:12.610 negative, not even necessarily negative, but 00:42:12.610 --> 00:42:16.570 just like the challenges of it. And I think like. 00:42:17.039 --> 00:42:19.219 Like we said, we're so grateful for the season 00:42:19.219 --> 00:42:22.360 we're in and wouldn't change it for the world. 00:42:22.460 --> 00:42:26.480 But we would love to hear what your guys' experience 00:42:26.480 --> 00:42:29.579 is, whether you're a full -time work -from -home 00:42:29.579 --> 00:42:32.260 mom, maybe you're a stay -at -home mom and it's 00:42:32.260 --> 00:42:35.099 a little bit different for you, or maybe you 00:42:35.099 --> 00:42:37.900 go full -time into the office or whatever your 00:42:37.900 --> 00:42:40.519 job is, but really just want to know kind of 00:42:40.519 --> 00:42:44.179 what your experience is in working and what the... 00:42:44.429 --> 00:42:46.309 positives and the challenges have been for you 00:42:46.309 --> 00:42:49.469 yeah yeah but do you want to hop let's hop into 00:42:49.469 --> 00:42:53.949 our wins of the week yeah so mine yesterday was 00:42:53.949 --> 00:42:58.250 a horrible day like it was just one of those 00:42:58.250 --> 00:43:00.110 things i don't know floyd didn't sleep well overnight 00:43:00.110 --> 00:43:02.389 because the morning started rough like that's 00:43:02.389 --> 00:43:04.510 a hard thing when like the day just starts rough 00:43:04.510 --> 00:43:08.090 yeah it was like he was like kicking and hitting 00:43:08.090 --> 00:43:09.889 and headbutting and things that he doesn't usually 00:43:09.889 --> 00:43:15.139 do and then He unrolled an entire or most of 00:43:15.139 --> 00:43:17.719 a roll of toilet paper. Oh, gosh. It was just 00:43:17.719 --> 00:43:21.340 like all the things were rough. And then nap 00:43:21.340 --> 00:43:24.820 time was terrible. And I was absolutely losing 00:43:24.820 --> 00:43:30.300 it. And so my win is. that I married a wonderful, 00:43:30.400 --> 00:43:33.260 wonderful man. And when he got home, he was like, 00:43:33.300 --> 00:43:35.119 let's order dinner so you don't have to cook 00:43:35.119 --> 00:43:37.500 and so we don't have to deal with dishes or anything 00:43:37.500 --> 00:43:40.599 like that. So we did. And then he was like, just 00:43:40.599 --> 00:43:43.480 take your book and go to a park and read for 00:43:43.480 --> 00:43:47.300 an hour. So we have a park in our neighborhood 00:43:47.300 --> 00:43:50.179 that has hammocks in it. Whoa, that's cool. It's 00:43:50.179 --> 00:43:51.820 really cool. I've never seen this before. That's 00:43:51.820 --> 00:43:55.619 so cool. But, yeah, they're super cool. So I 00:43:55.619 --> 00:43:57.099 just like went across the street to that park 00:43:57.099 --> 00:44:02.000 and took my book. Almost fell asleep. You're 00:44:02.000 --> 00:44:04.619 like actually gone for like four hours. If I 00:44:04.619 --> 00:44:06.340 fell asleep, Stuart probably would have been 00:44:06.340 --> 00:44:10.059 calling me like, are you okay? Yeah, but it was 00:44:10.059 --> 00:44:14.300 just super nice. And I think part of why this 00:44:14.300 --> 00:44:17.039 is a win is like at no point was I super worried. 00:44:17.260 --> 00:44:20.539 It was like he's a dad. He knows what he's doing. 00:44:20.719 --> 00:44:23.780 And if it's terrible, he'll figure it out. You 00:44:23.780 --> 00:44:25.559 trust him and his parenting. Yeah, you know, 00:44:25.579 --> 00:44:29.280 exactly, where it's like, I trust him. It might 00:44:29.280 --> 00:44:32.619 be rough for him, too, but he's a capable parent. 00:44:33.059 --> 00:44:35.639 So, yeah, my win is, A, just being able to, like, 00:44:35.659 --> 00:44:38.400 get a break after a rough day and, like, then 00:44:38.400 --> 00:44:41.260 also coming back and being like, oh, yeah, I 00:44:41.260 --> 00:44:43.699 do like being a mom. I just needed a breather. 00:44:43.900 --> 00:44:48.820 And then being partnered with someone who, as, 00:44:48.920 --> 00:44:51.889 like, a parenting partner. We can try to take 00:44:51.889 --> 00:44:55.369 care of each other and who I trust. So that's 00:44:55.369 --> 00:44:58.929 my win of the week. Aw, that's sweet. Okay, my 00:44:58.929 --> 00:45:03.550 win. So at night, every night, we have a very 00:45:03.550 --> 00:45:07.150 specific routine with Colty to go to bed. And 00:45:07.150 --> 00:45:10.349 just recently, like every night, he really wants 00:45:10.349 --> 00:45:12.829 both Michael and I to put him down, which then 00:45:12.829 --> 00:45:16.340 means Cruz comes along too, usually. And just 00:45:16.340 --> 00:45:18.659 recently, like, so we'll pray and then we'll 00:45:18.659 --> 00:45:22.039 put him in the crib awake. And as we're walking 00:45:22.039 --> 00:45:23.900 out, we'll go, we love you, buddy. Like sleep 00:45:23.900 --> 00:45:26.980 so good. We'll see you in the morning. And just 00:45:26.980 --> 00:45:29.320 recently he started going, love you, mommy. Love 00:45:29.320 --> 00:45:32.599 you, daddy. And I'm like, love you, buddy. And 00:45:32.599 --> 00:45:34.619 then I just want to like run back over and kiss 00:45:34.619 --> 00:45:37.380 him and hug him. And, but it's just, oh my gosh, 00:45:37.440 --> 00:45:40.500 I love it so much. And I, and I know like. I 00:45:40.500 --> 00:45:42.539 totally like prompted him at the beginning to 00:45:42.539 --> 00:45:44.579 like start. I'd be like, when mommy says love 00:45:44.579 --> 00:45:47.400 you, buddy, you say love you, mommy. And so like 00:45:47.400 --> 00:45:51.219 we, it's like learned that he says it back. anytime 00:45:51.219 --> 00:45:53.800 we're like, Lloyd, can you say I love you? He 00:45:53.800 --> 00:45:56.820 just goes silent. He won't say anything. He's 00:45:56.820 --> 00:45:59.780 like, I could, but I'm not going to. He'll repeat 00:45:59.780 --> 00:46:01.239 everything else I say. You gotta work for it, 00:46:01.280 --> 00:46:02.820 mom. Yeah, but when we're like, can you say, 00:46:02.920 --> 00:46:05.099 I love you? Like, I love you, mom. I love you, 00:46:05.119 --> 00:46:07.739 baby sister. I love you. Nope. Nope. Just totally 00:46:07.739 --> 00:46:10.539 bad. So even if it's learned, that's super cute. 00:46:10.659 --> 00:46:14.340 Yeah, yeah. So I just, every night when we... 00:46:14.539 --> 00:46:17.820 When we put him to bed and love you, buddy. Love 00:46:17.820 --> 00:46:20.460 you, mommy. Love you, daddy. That's so sweet. 00:46:20.539 --> 00:46:24.699 My heart melts. Yeah, it's so sweet. Well, thanks 00:46:24.699 --> 00:46:28.179 for tuning in to this week's No Manual Momcast. 00:46:28.719 --> 00:46:31.639 Like we mentioned, we'd love to hear kind of 00:46:31.639 --> 00:46:34.260 your working experience, whether you work from 00:46:34.260 --> 00:46:37.440 home or in the office. Just the positives or 00:46:37.440 --> 00:46:39.739 the challenges that you've come across. Any pro 00:46:39.739 --> 00:46:41.360 tips. We'll still take them. Any pro tips. We're 00:46:41.360 --> 00:46:44.519 still figuring it out. Yes. Yes, we are. Weekly 00:46:44.519 --> 00:46:47.139 is just, it's always different every week. Mm 00:46:47.139 --> 00:46:50.820 -hmm. Yep. 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