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I. Welcome to the Now We Consume podcast, everyone.
I'm your host, Pip. Here tonight with me is my
co -host, Gibbles. Hi. Gibbs is stuck in plumbing
hell tonight, so we will just have him here in
spirit. I did want to mention real quick, I got
a letter from the IRS saying that I owe them
for emotional damages to the economy. Apparently,
they've been listening to the show. And my commentary
is depressing the GDP. They're asking for $2
,500 in reparations. So I sent them a picture
of my empty wallet and a sad emoji. No reply
yet. Is that why we lost the FCC guy? That's
probably, yeah. Yeah, that's my thinking. So
welcome to the show where we question everything
except for my poor life choices. Why you made
that poor man's commit to buku? You know, it
was either that or, you know, he gets escorted
out of certain stores for checking for a mouthfeel,
you know? Oh, my. Oh, yes, I went there. But,
no, tonight we had one episode lined up. And
then we found out that Gibbs wasn't going to
be able to join us, and it was one that he was
really wanting to do with us. So we went back
to the drawing board. We got this one dropped
out, kind of like a spicy log to satisfy everyone's
interest, hopefully. And we're going to talk
tonight about the growing gap of hands -on capabilities.
And the growing illusion of ownership, that you
actually do own the things that you think you
own. We've kind of touched on that a little bit
in some previous episodes, but kind of a little
bit of a deep dive on some of that. And just
for reference, take a look around wherever you're
at. Literally everything that you see, your heaters,
your air conditioners, your cars, the screens
that you're maybe watching or listening to the
show on. They're all held together by literal
threads of proprietary codes and a supply chain
that is kind of in a tailspin. We feel like we're
in control because we can click add to cart and
then order. But what happens if that button is
never lit up? It's currently March of 26. We're
living on borrowed time. At least that's what
it feels like. We've kind of traded our ability
to survive in the physical world for the convenience
of the digital one. So we're going to kind of
see what's going on with things and kind of look
at some of the terrifying reality that we're
becoming guests in our own lives. Yeah. You remember
when PlayStation and Xbox had that big debacle
back in the day where... xbox is like oh it's
gonna be all digital on the cloud and all that
and playstation's like huh cd friend they can
share and that was when everybody's like oh no
you know we we're not gonna have the ability
to own anything anymore look what happened did
we learn something children i don't think we
did no it doesn't seem like it and the the video
game industry is probably one of the biggest
spotlights of that whole you don't own what you
buy kind of deal. Software in general, I think.
But video games, I think, are kind of shining
the warning siren. Yeah. If the servers go down,
you don't have access to what you bought. And
in some cases, people have spent hundreds or
even thousands of dollars on some of those games.
And once the servers go off, they have nothing
to show for it. Yeah. Well, it's just like with
the movies, too. Yeah. I took all my DVDs back
in the day and had them converted at Walmart
and they were uploaded to Vudu. And then all
of a sudden, well, yeah, now everything's on
Fandango. And if it wasn't for whatever streaming
service it is at this point, I don't even remember
anymore. That's terrible. Oh, yeah. Had they
decided not to honor all those DVDs and everything
that people have uploaded, oh, well, sucks to
be you. Yeah. So it's not just on the software
and entertainment side. We're losing skills,
and it's kind of like a collective mechanical
amnesia. Oh, yeah. I know. I feel like a lot
of people listening can relate. The average person
is more domesticated than at any point in history.
If our GPS or the internet tutorials that we
rely on go dark because of the current conflict
in Iran, which let me segue real quick. Our president
is now saying or threatening to use nukes, by
the way, that happened yesterday. I don't know
if y 'all heard that. The nuclear conversation
has happened. So that's a thing we all might
need to worry about. Well, we're going to talk
about that probably next week. So, yeah, I do
not like the talk of nukes. Nukes fascinate me
because of the physics behind them. They terrify
me on the world stage. But, yeah, we could lose
the Internet because of the issues with Iran
or just other bullshittery that happens. But
if we lose the Internet, we don't just lose our
way. We lose our ability to maintain our immediate
environment. We all understand how interconnected
our lives are to the internet and how grossly
independent or dependent we all are on the internet.
So our intelligence is not really growing. It's
just becoming dependent on the availability of
access to knowledge because knowledge retention
is not there. Not like you don't need to. Exactly.
It's now more important to know where to find
the resource and the knowledge than it is to
actually have the knowledge. And that's something
that I think a lot of people are seeing in the
workplace, in schools, and in day -to -day life.
People can barely function unless they have their
magic little information boxes with them. Yeah.
I know you've seen it in your job. Yeah. Oh,
yeah. My little job I do, fixing machines, watching
so many people that seem to think they know what
they're doing and break it that much harder.
Oh, yeah. Teachers. It's great when you're doing
repair work and you're actually going out to
fix a repair that was already done. Yeah. Yeah.
I had one a couple weeks ago. The person's just
like, hey, this broke. Is this repairable? And
takes a picture. Of the machine taken apart.
To the point that are like, yeah, we're pointing
at this part. However, I'm going, how did you
get to that point without breaking into something
that a you don't know anything about? Which,
I mean, all good on you for trying to figure
out, but you're paying a monthly service. So
now you run the risk of the company going, you
know what? We're not going to let you pay the
monthly service anymore because you decided to
break in and break this. So until you pay for
what you broke, you're cut off. And then B, the
thing they broke was just a spring, thankfully.
They had to pull stuff out of the way. And because
they didn't know what they were doing, they consequently
broke the spring that they're like, oh, this
must be the problem. And it's just like, you
know, if you would have just left it alone, let
me come in there and take care of it. Fine. You
know, let me come in there and show you, hey,
next time you go to do this, this is what you
should do. And I've done that plenty of times
as well. And the ones who listen do well. The
ones who think, nah, screw you, I'm going to
do what I want. Not so much. Yeah. It can be
kind of fun if you're really into that kind of
stuff and you like to solve the puzzles, you
know, go doctor house on the equipment. But when
you're spending more time trying to fix the fuck
up, then it's not really worth it. Oh, yeah.
I had a few times in the last six months where
I was a chimpanzee with a wrench on a machine
because I was fixing someone's F up who thought
they knew better than us, the tax. So I'm fixing
their screw up and then having to fix whatever
was wrong with the machine originally. Yeah.
So I, I said that the intelligence isn't really
growing more and more. It seems like humans,
at all, uh, are becoming highly efficient biological
peripherals to the devices that we depend so
much on. And I, I, I have a couple of questions
that I, that I have written up for some of this,
and this isn't just for you. This is for anybody
that wants to chime in. Um, so by all means,
please hit us up on the socials, hit on discord
or whatnot. Um, if the internet were to go dark
for a week, Do you guys have the physical manuals
for the gear in your shop or your day -to -day
lives or the actual skill sets that you need
to be able to keep everything running? Or do
you guys strictly depend on things like access
to YouTube? It's my noggin. I took the time and
learned. Yeah. I got my edge of mycation. Thank
you, military. Yep. And I know you and I both
have maker -type hobbies or even side deals.
If all of the pre -cut lumber and the proprietary
bits stop shipping, what can you actually build
from the dirt up? Right. I know I got some capabilities,
like you said, that if I lose some gears, if
I lose certain things, I'm still able to keep
running somewhat. Yeah. On my end, being able
to do the woodworking that I do and some of the
fabrication stuff, I think I would be reasonably
okay. I would like to invest in something like
a filament maker for the 3D printing. but I would
also like to get a better 3d printer. Um, just
because I, yeah, I've, I've had my 3d printer
since like 2017. It's, it's, it's got some miles
on it, but it's a, it's a workhorse. Uh, but
I, I think that most people that have those types
of hobbies also have the ancillary skills to
be able to support at least a portion of their
work and could do, you know, a certain percentage
of that type of kind of survival type work. So
that's just my opinion, at least. Yeah. But kind
of talking about that, the, the just in time,
I named it here, the suicide pact, our world
really runs on just in time inventory. And I
know, you know, this most people that listen
kind of understand this. And we've talked about
that in the shows where we discuss like grocery
stores, if there's a mass blackout and how most
stores only have a couple days worth of inventory
on hand. Yeah. Our system is designed for a world
that never stops moving. And if all the gears
grind to a halt, then most people's day -to -day
lives will also grind to a halt. Because most
people rely on those just -in -time deliveries
for their household, too. Not even just their
businesses, but their households. I know several
people that literally only keep a couple days'
worth of food and supplies for their home, their
business, everything. And they just rely on things
to come when it's scheduled. How would your business
fare if you couldn't head out to do a repair
until you got your... Stuff delivered. That happens
a lot. We have to. We have. Toner. Developer.
Certain types of parts that wear out. That are
considered consumable. Those we keep on hand.
Fairly regularly. At least we try. Parts that.
They don't normally break. Those ones. are the
ones that we have to order and you pray that
they've been manufactured in the last six months
because otherwise you get back orders and then
you have to wait for them to show up yeah yeah
i mean we all saw the the supply chain pinch
during covet oh yeah but um yeah during covet
you know from what i was told by my co -workers
what happened back you know at that point before
i decide to join them in the fun trades um, they
couldn't get toner or they couldn't get, um,
you know, what toner they did get was all like
off brand, you know, I almost call it black market
type toner. Cause you know, they had to like,
you know, get stuff that either had to be mixed
or poured in. And within two weeks they were
going back to all the machines cause they were
all jamming because the toner mix wasn't correct
for that, that particular model. Yeah. Yeah.
Hell I've, I've got a printer sitting over here
that, won't take aftermarket ink. It's an HP
printer, which is bullshit. I own the printer.
Why can't I use whatever ink I want? It won't
work unless I use HP brand ink. That's bullshit.
That's not what I want to use in my printer.
Yeah. So... I put down the for how long feel.
We currently have Operation Epic Fury entering
week two, just about to enter into week three.
So the just -in -time shipments are starting
to become never. Yeah. We've optimized for efficiency,
but we've sacrificed resilience. The issues in
the Strait of Hormuz. are starting to impact
oil and that's going to impact a lot of things
via the ripple effect. So a lot of industries
are going to start kind of reining in a lot of
shipping things. Yes. Because I mean, diesel's
already flown way high in my area. It went from
three 69 to five 45 in the course of a week and
a half. Yeah. Absolutely disgusting how fast
that went. Yeah, I can't even imagine what it
is out in California. It's probably $10 a gallon
out there. Yeah, no. No, thank you. And then
you've got all of the trade jobs that are going
to start feeling the effect because they rely
on things that get shipped. Yeah. So we have
this conflict in Iran that is going to cause
an effect here. Because of what's going on there.
And it's just going to start going back and forth.
And impacting everything else. And like I said.
Go ahead. I was going to say prices are going
to go up. Again. And they won't go back down.
Because there will be some other excuse. That
these stupid ass companies will come up with.
And everybody knows it. Everybody in the government
knows it. But because corporations are considered
people too. They can sit there and lobby and
all that stuff, and there's not a damn thing
we can do about it. Yeah. Yeah, that's painful.
And I feel bad for the people that do that independent,
because that's their livelihood. Yeah. But when
the parts stop coming, the people that click
buy now, We'll be at the mercy of the makers,
the people like us that know how to actually
make shit. Yeah. That's something that I don't
really think the population at large really understands
or appreciates. Yeah, because the U .S., we've
sent so much stuff overseas. If the trades all
of a sudden, the trading partners just decide,
you know what, screw you. We're not trading with
you no more. We have no way. to restart half
the stuff we need to keep things going efficiently
let alone at all yeah yeah it's uh just like
when we were talking about um like the the blackout
situation trying to do a full cold start we would
be years because the amount of parts we need
we don't have we don't make we don't keep the
u .s wouldn't exist anymore at that point Yeah.
So, and, and that's just another example of the
just in time stuff, because we would rely on
other countries to supply us with those parts.
And not a lot of countries are real happy with
us right now. No. So we might not get those parts
for a while, if ever. Yeah. So, uh, you want
to take this next section here? Do I have to
wait? Let me, let me go back to the questions.
Cause I, I know I had these. Yeah, section three,
but let me do these. So the war in Iran just
pushed gas to a new high. I know it went up in
my area again. At what point, at what price point
does it become illegal for a regular person to
become self -sufficient? When does the cost of
the wrench exceed the value of the repair? And
this is going to take us into the next section.
Do you think, and this is kind of the way I wanted
to word this, do you think that there's going
to be anything if things start to get too out
of hand to where state, local, or even federal
governments will begin to limit our abilities
to do repairs? Hmm. Well, with the cost of gas,
I'm not sure how that correlates, but... To me,
it's just all about how much the government's
lobbied by who. When you've got John Deere and
Apple and everyone like that really fighting
to keep us to where we're not supposed to be
able to repair our own stuff. Yet, they can't
void your warranty. Yeah. Which is hilarious.
Oh, yeah. Unless you get it wet. Yeah. Oh yeah.
Don't get it wet. Yeah. And then this one, if
the supply chain were to snap tonight, which
of your essential tools is the first one to become
a 50 pound paperweight? Hmm. Well, once my filament
runs out, it'd be my a 3d printer. That's for
damn sure. Yeah. Yeah. That's that filament.
That's worthless. That's kind of why I want to
get a filament maker. Yeah. I mean, soda bottles
make for great filament, so. Yeah. And you can
make PLA out of some pretty easy stuff. Yeah.
No more Japan, great. Yeah. All my snackies.
Yeah, right? You want to take section three here?
Oh, for the pivot three? No, on the main notes.
Oh, that one. Oh, right, right. I see it now.
So in 2026, we are now on track to generate 75
million metric tons of e -waste this year alone.
Oh, yeah. This is 30 % increase since 2022. But
the dystopian kicker is. We are landfilling over
$62 .5 billion worth of gold and rare earth elements
annually because of parts pairing. Also because
you've got companies that go out and sue recyclers
that take it upon themselves to take said parts
and recycle it. Uh -huh. And I want to say that
number one more time. $62 .5 billion with a B
worth of gold and rare earth. I don't know that
person. That's getting put into the landfills.
Yeah. It's disgusting. I'm wondering how long
it's going to be before we have people going
to landfills to become like gold diggers. Right.
Like gold painters like they do on YouTube and
shit. Looking for these gold and rare earth deposits
in landfills. Right. What kills me is when I
lived down south in Maryland, it wasn't even
on her. I'd take my television if it was broke
and I wasn't able to fix any more toast or whatever.
I'd take it to the landfill. And they had a recycling
center right next door. So if it was something
that could be recycled, they'd have you put it
into the green bin. And if it couldn't be, they'd
put it into a separate bin. But that's where
they would take it, break it down, and get it
for the material. Yeah. Up north here, you don't
see that anywhere. It drives me nuts. I'm like,
twice a year we get the collection for electronics
and stuff like that or tires. But the rest of
the year, it's sitting in just piles. It's like,
why are we not taking the time to rip this stuff
apart and get the metals out of them? Right.
Because there's a lot of studies and there's
a lot of... videos and whatnot that have come
out saying that it's not worth it. But at the
same time, there's been just as many now with
the price of precious metals that has gone up
over the past year. That's saying it actually
is worth it to do it now. Yeah. If you do it
correctly, it is worth it. Yeah. Well, you've
got companies in California that sit there and
like recycle stuff and they're pulling out the
precious metals at PCs, cell phones and stuff
like that. And if they're making it work, you
know, how can we sit there and say that it's
not worth it? Yeah. It's, uh, it's, it's something
that needs, uh, looked at again. And, uh, you
good? Yeah. My discord also decided to restart
on me. Oh, okay. All right. That was strange.
So yeah, there's a lot that needs to happen that
I don't think anyone is really looking at because
it's trash, it's recycling, it's stuff that has
been looked at for years that I don't think anyone
has really taken the time to look at again. Some
people are with the cost of some of these rare
metals that have been going up, like I said,
but not enough and not the right people. Yeah.
So go ahead and continue on. Okay, I'll put that
back up there. Even with right -to -repair laws
in states like Oregon, manufacturers are using
software to serialize components. If you swap
a genuine battery or screen, the device rejects
the organ transplant. Yes, that is fairly true
depending on where you are. unfortunately yeah
um i know new york was supposed to be working
on a right to repair or yeah i think that was
them and it almost got all the way through but
then somebody decided to put their sticky little
fingers into it and basically make it worthless
which that's when you just want to go okay which
politician was it and how much are they getting
paid because at that point you need to go ahead
and just get them kicked out of office. Absolutely.
Because you're not working for your constituents.
You're being paid under the table, essentially.
And if Supreme Court doesn't want to say that's
illegal, I'm sorry. To me, that's illegal. Yeah,
and it's something that's been... talked about
for long enough that enough people have gotten
behind it. There's been enough support in Congress
that we've had enough people that are farmers
go to Congress to do things like right to repair
because of companies like John Deere. Yeah. They've
had to eat so many repair bills because John
Deere is, sorry, a big enough piece of shit when
it comes to repairing the stuff that you buy
from them. And we talked about that back in our
right to repair episode. Right. Yeah. It's dumb.
Yeah. So, yeah, I mean, it goes all the way into
food for Christ's sake. Oh yeah. You can't even
be a farmer without, you know, fearing that you
go and you go plant crops and all of a sudden,
you know, your neighbor who's using the, the
gene stuff. You know, that they paid for and
it also ends up on your soil and you accidentally
used what came off their land and not even realize
it. Guess what? You're getting sued. Yeah. For
copyright infringement of all things. Random,
random tidbit. I just found out farmers are not
allowed to use the stuff that they harvest as
as replant for the crops. They have to buy new
seed. They're not allowed to replant what they
harvest. Why the hell? Is that even a thing?
Oh, that's for all the guys that are using, like,
what is that, Osantis or whatever that company
is that makes all the corn and everything. Monsanto.
Yeah, Monsanto. They make that part of their
contract where you can't. Yeah, you're renting
the seeds. You're not actually. You're not purchasing
the rights to keep growing it. That's why if
you're going to do that stuff, you don't go with
companies like that. You just buy your corn seed
and then give them the middle finger. Yeah. But
then you run the risk of having everything destroyed
by the pests that they've genetically modified
to attack those kinds of crops and not their
own genetically modified crops. No, I'm not wearing
a tinfoil hat. My God, I've watched this shit
happen over the years. Or like I said, they'll
just sue that farmer that's not using their stuff
because then they'll just say, hey, that corn's
ended up in their field. They should have known
that it wasn't theirs. Yep. Yeah, because the
natural corn grows like four or five foot high.
The weird corn grows nine foot high. Right. So
they have to go pull those stocks. God forbid.
They look the same. They taste the same, but
one's got a different genetic diversity to it.
So you can't eat that one. Well, how the hell?
It's the same with people, okay? Right. Some
people would like to say they can't claim everybody,
but it's like that stupid brother in the closet.
You have to recognize him, too. Yeah. fresh though
they may be anyways keep moving on so you know
i mean we've already mentioned john deer lock
the lockouts uh farmers in midwest fighting software
firewalls yeah i mean that's the same with your
cell phones that's with just about anything you
have i mean hell the 3d printer i got They just
recently, as of last year, made it to where you
can't even use off -brand software because they
updated their equipment or through firmware to
where you can only use theirs. And when enough
people had a hissy fit about it, they're just
like, well, then don't update the firmware and
you can still use the other stuff. Yeah. So it's
stuff like that where I don't understand how
that's not considered a monopoly. yeah you know
apple having their own app store and then telling
everybody well you can only use our parts and
it has to be registered through us and you should
only have to use our company to repair a product
that 20 years ago you could crack open with a
screwdriver and just be like hey need a new battery
because you know we all remember radio shack
that are old enough you could walk into a radio
shack get a cell phone battery because the one
you had stopped charging so well Threw the next
cell phone battery in and walked out and you
were good to go. Yeah. Yeah, back in the good
old days, you know? Yeah. Back when you had a
cell phone that could crush a skull. Right. And
most of those stores are just gone now and it's
sad. Yeah. So. Well, Radio Shack messed up once
they got away from their core market, which was...
DIY repairs. Yes. Yeah, it was fun back in the
day. Yeah. Ah, so now you have the maker underworld.
Yes. The new elite. Yes, we as makers will claim
the overworld as our own. Yeah, until Congress
decides to make all that shit illegal. Right.
You could make a gun with it. Yeah, and I know
we talked about that pretty recently, but so
as the hands -on gap widens, there is a new class
in society forming. We as makers will become
the overlords of society when everything falls
apart. Talking from the workshop perspective,
using a laser engraver, or a wood shop will no
longer just be a hobby. It's going to be a form
of guerrilla maintenance. And that's kind of
what I was kind of leaning into with the whole,
do you think it'll ever be illegal to do your
own repairs? At some point, I think the supply
chain, this is theoretical. If the supply chain
gets that bad, you know, will, will there come
a time when. doing those repairs because the
government is hoarding down supplies you know
you should be turning this in like back during
the war you know give your your gold silver copper
you know give it to the military for for the
good of the war effort that kind of stuff uh
so while the rest of the world waits for a corporate
technician who won't be coming the makers are
going to be pirating their own reality and yeah
just like how uh back in the day when farmers
would lose their house to the bank, they would
all attend the auction and they would let the
farmer buy back their house and bully any of
the big builders out of the auction. Yeah. It's
right in the kick of the butt. And that's the
way it should be done. Yeah. I fully support
that. Yeah. We'll just kind of turn into Cuba
when it comes to repairing and keeping things
running. yes uh cuba for all their faults have
a very resilient society because they've been
forced to yeah the fact that they've got cars
you know that are considerably kissed yeah they're
like historic in our country that run just as
good as they did back in the day yeah because
they had no choice but to keep them running yeah
so um Let me backtrack for just a second because
we got to talking about the whole John Deere
locks out all their shit, right? If a farmer's
tractor is locked down during a famine, like
food stocks are like not available in stores
and he's got a field full of food, but he's been
told, hey, you're not allowed to harvest this.
If that farmer gets help and hacks the code on
his tractor so that he can use it, will he be
viewed as a hero or a digital pirate in the eyes
of the system? In the eyes of the system, it's
going to be both. Yeah. Because you're still
going to have people that are using the system
that are going to be like, you know, yeah, you
shouldn't have done that. But you know what?
He's feeding people. Yeah. And are the people.
that he's feeding going to be the same ones coming
after him? No. Yeah. I don't think he would be
able to be found at that point. Miraculously.
He'll, he'll learn how to fly out the window
like Putin's friends. Oh God. Yes. But no, it's,
it's things like that, that if, you know, if
things get bad enough, you're going to see things
like that happening. because national emergencies
will start locking down things and systems that
we depend on. And they could inadvertently lock
down things like farm equipment. It's not something
that people think about, but as I was kind of
looking over the research for this, it was something
that came up because there's a lot of like auxiliary
and ancillary systems that are tied in with each
other. that during a national emergency could
be locked down. I'm not saying they would be,
but they could be, and it would be kind of like
an oversight deal. So if this stuff gets locked
down and these people don't have access to their
own equipment to use it the way they're supposed
to, they have to find a workaround. Yeah. It's
one of those things, especially in that situation
where You're hard -pressed to find somebody that's
going to go after them unless it's specifically
the people from the company itself that are paid
enough to actually give a shit. Otherwise, your
low -level employees are not going to care. No.
Especially because they're going to be benefiting
from it. Right. Your low -level government institutions
aren't going to care. People that directly benefit
from that farmer jailbreaking the equipment,
they don't give a shit. All they're going to
see is some corporate, you know, snozz coming
in and everybody's just going to be like, yeah,
no F off. You know, there, and there's no reason
they're doing, should be doing this and getting
away with it. None whatsoever. No, there is nothing
on that machine that needs that kind of proprietary
safety. No, nothing. It's literally situations
like that, that will create more and more. marvin
haymeyer's out in society long live the killdozer
yeah if the government actually enforced their
monopoly rules we wouldn't be in this situation
yeah yeah because god forbid we enforce the laws
we have on the books no we got to come up with
new ones or just ignore the ones we have it's
either we enforce the ones we got or no excuse
me well i'm saying that wrong it's either we're
not enforcing the ones we've got And then you
also got the other side that was like, no, we're
not going to enforce it, but we're going to make
more new rules. And we're going to make certain
effects you, but no one else. Yeah. So a question
comes up. How long can a society function when
only 1 % of the population understands how things
like the plumbing, the power, and the engines
actually work? When the electricity goes off?
Not long. The moment there's no internet? Yeah,
that's when your backyard mechanic suddenly becomes
king. Yeah. The dude that knows how to fix everything?
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Coffin, steel. There's a
lot you can do with that. Dude, raw materials
will suddenly be worth equivalent to like gold
and silver at that point yeah um i know i had
a hot wire car but that's just me do you think
under the right circumstances um unauthorized
repairs could ever be classified as a threat
to national security that i can't see unless
you've got a just full -on corrupt government
At that point, I'd say then it could. But right
now, even with the people we have in office right
now, no. No way. Nobody in office right now is
that stupid. Even our blonde -haired hero in
office, even he ain't that silly. I say that
very, very lightly. Very tongue -in -cheek. Yes,
I have a sense of humor. You do? I drink that
haterade equally. Oh, yes. Is there a point where
a 3D printer could become a printing press for
sedition? Depends on who you ask. I had to put
that one in there just because of some of the
laws that have been getting looked at. Yeah.
If they pass some of the laws that they want,
it could. potentially be looked like at that
way i guess i think it's absolutely dumb yeah
same here i mean it comes down to who's using
it for what purpose and it always will yeah yeah
to me it comes it's not even a gun issue just
like a lot of these gun issues that democrats
and everybody keeps coming up with and i'm sorry
it's mostly democrats that keep doing it not
always but a lot of them do it's They're trying
to create a boogeyman for some reason. And to
me, it smells like it's definitely not passing
the smell test when it comes to them saying,
oh, it's a gun issue. It, to me, is coming across
as there's corporate bigwigs that have gotten
enough of a scent of this could totally screw
us that we need to do something about it now.
And let's create a boogeyman scenario so that
way. people won't have access to something and
we're still going to be dependent on these companies.
I mean, come on. You watch enough YouTube videos.
You see it all the time. Somebody's got a freaking
time clock thing that needs repaired, but the
company that repairs it said, hey, guess what?
You're going to have to spend $100 on something
because we don't make just the gear. We make
this whole mechanism. Even though we could just
give you the gear for like a buck. We're going
to make you pay a hundred bucks for this one
mechanism. So what's the guy do? He 3d prints
it. He measures, you know, what was left of inside
the machine 3d prints it. And guess what? For
like a buck, he's got the new gear and gave the
middle finger to that company. Yeah. So why not
fricking try to figure out a way to make that,
that kind of stuff illegal? Yeah. Do you think
it's maybe something to do with. Either taxes
or the ability to draw some sort of a profit
off of the parts that are being 3D printed? Not
necessarily, because if you make enough money,
unless you're physically going to locations to
pass money under the table, at some point, if
you're doing business with a bank, you're going
to have to account for where that money comes
from. Even criminals with the IRS have to file
taxes showing how much stuff they stole during
the year. It is an IRS tax code. If you steal
something, you're supposed to account for it.
Isn't that usually what criminals get hit with
is tax stuff when those warrants get served?
Yeah, like tax evasion and stuff. Yeah. I have
this feeling that's really what it's for. But
if they actually took the time to do that. That
would totally throw the government for a loop.
It'd be hilarious. You know, I'm charging you
for tax evasion. What are you talking about?
I got my tax forms right here from last year.
I totally put down, I stole that Toyota Celica.
Nice. And I totally made a profit off of it.
Here you go. Yeah, that's... I feel like if...
if 3d printers had a way to show what they were
making, which I, I don't want this to ever happen,
that some of the stuff would kind of cool down
as far as the legislation side, because I don't
want any more eyes being put on what I'm doing
in my own home. Right. I don't see it. They're,
they're going to find ways to try to get their
fingers in your house. Yeah. I mean, Again, you
have... Well, they already tried to put their
fingers in my back door and I screamed really
loud when they did that. Was that the van in
the white suit? It was. And he got donkey kicked.
I bet he did. I'm trying to think what... I just
saw a video from Colin Noir where he was talking
about a state that was trying to pass a law to
where... Basically, they wanted it to where you
couldn't carry a 10 mag magazine, anything higher
than that. They want it to where you have to
get permission from the local PD to even have
these weapons that you've already bought legally
and got background checks for. And then they
also want to be able to come in your home anytime
they want to be able to inspect your weapons
to make sure they're safe in a secure manner.
I want to say Virginia. But I might be confusing
that with all the other stuff that Virginia is
doing lately. Which, let me segue real quick.
How the hell did a foreign -born person get elected
to a position to where they can now make laws
to what Americans can do with firearms? Right.
I'm not sure how that works. That shouldn't happen.
I thought... No. Just the fact that somebody
even suggesting that they should be doing that,
they should be slapped and thrown out of their
own government. Because that is, to me, that's
against the Constitution. A, like you said, you're
violating the Second Amendment. It is infringement.
And then you're talking about, oh, and you can
come in my house anytime you want? No, that's
a violation of the Fourth Amendment. You're violating
two amendments with one law. I'd tell our officer
to shove it up his ass, and I'd be like, and
if you arrest me, be prepared to lose your retirement,
your income, your police department's income,
and the town's income, because I'm going to take
everything. I will not settle. I will take everything.
This town will be renamed to Pipville. Yes. Yeah.
It'll be North Gibbles. Yeah, it's... God. Yeah,
but that's Japan. Oh, yeah. I saw that comment.
Sorry. Other random Zoidberg thought, did you
see High Point made an AR -15? It actually looks
kind of cool. Yeah. The reviews on it are nice.
Anyways. I just wish I had the bunnies. They're
cheap. It's like sub $500. I have to eat. Groceries
are, like, sub - $500 anymore for a week. Hot
dogs and mac and cheese. All right, $100. I'm
going to have to go on that new Second Amendment
diet. Oh, God. What were you just use your second
amendment privileges to obtain food? No fricking
use my second amendment privileges by removing
food from my life so I can afford my guns. Oh
yeah. All right. So this is the last portion
of the notes and it was a lot of theoretical
stuff. So a national emergency. forces a blackout
in your area for a minimum of 14 days so let's
say that there's something going on they need
to if you have like a fuel powered power plant
in your area they need to redirect the fuel for
like war effort type stuff for disaster recovery
or something or there's just a major natural
disaster and they shut off the power plant to
prevent wildfires that's something that happens
yeah so They announced there will be no government
assistance during this time outside of 911 services,
which will be severely delayed. What steps have
you already taken as far as everything we've
already talked about tonight to ensure that you're
getting through that situation? Well, I bring
out all my ammo. Bring out all my guns, set myself
up, and wait for the dumbasses to show up to
my front door. They're going to resupply you
right at your door. They are the new Amazon.
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Anybody shows up at my house
in their cars and stuff, I'm going to have gas.
I'm going to have metal resources. If they have
food in those vehicles or water, I don't have
to use my water out of the ground. I'll just
use what they got. That's all that'll be. Oh,
yeah. It was something that came up when I was
doing some of the research, and it was just like,
there again, you've got the people who can manage
repairs, who already have tools and supplies
on hand, who don't reply on just -in -time delivery,
who already have the knowledge and don't have
to rely on YouTube and whatnot. So these are
the people who are going to become their own
miniature commercial hubs. For their, their neighborhoods,
possibly their cities, their towns or whatever.
And there's going to be a bunch of little hubs
all spread out because these are going to be
the new centers of commerce. Yeah. For that duration.
It'll just be like it was before. Yeah. You'll
have your blacksmiths, you'll have, you know,
people that know how to do certain things. And
those are where everybody will congregate because
when they need something taken care of. Yeah.
It's right there. Now. In two weeks, there may
not be a ton of activity. But if it goes... We
all saw what happened the last time the government
said, we're just going to do two weeks. That
was a very long two weeks. It lasted for, what,
36 months? Yeah. But we still had power. We did.
We saw electricity and we saw the internet. I
think the U .S. would look very different if
we did not have power during that time. well
there was a study i it was a long time ago i
saw it where they talked about what would happen
it was after the new york blackouts where like
a good portion of the area went dark for like
a few days and they were talking like i think
it was like maybe two weeks tops where if there
was no electricity it would be absolute mayhem
within a few days yeah yeah but that's what i'm
saying like two weeks tops yeah like people would
lose their absolute minds after you know just
a few days to a couple weeks yep and you wouldn't
be able to get control of it immediately until
you got the power back on even then god only
knows what happens yeah your bigger cities quickly
resort to gang violence gang control overlords
yeah and just go play the division that's that's
exactly what happens well and it's and it's because
of the just in time mentality for the economy
yeah you don't have power well you can't go buy
food because all your money is now digital yep
and nobody has paper money really anymore i have
a little but even i'm guilty of it yeah but nobody
has you know natural resources to trade so in
the city where there's a lot of them where you
almost might say it's a food desert you'd have
the city having to mass exodus To find places
to get food and resources and everything. And
people out in the country ain't going to have
it. Or the people that do. They're not going
to give it up. At least not willingly. Well,
that's what I meant by that. Not having it. They're
just not going to put up with that type of shit.
They're just going to be like, well, it sucks
to be you. Yeah. And ammo is going to be flying.
Oh, yeah. Quickly. So. The. The hands -on gap
is kind of the ultimate tool of control. If you
can't fix your world, you can't rebel against
it. You're kind of tethered to the system for
your very survival. Maybe it's by design. Maybe
it's just the natural path of progression and
abundance. Many people still take great satisfaction
in being able to repair what they own or just
in earning side income, repairing things for
others. We have advocated many times on this
show and will probably continue to do so for
the entire duration of this show. Learn your
craft, acquire resources of knowledge and tools,
and invest in yourself for the long term. Knowledge
is power. It's really one of the best sayings
out there. If you don't have to rely on others,
you can do literally everything you need. Yeah.
Taking the time to learn how to grow a few crops.
Take the time to learn how to repair something
that you figured you're absolutely going to need.
And no, not your cell phone. Take the time to
learn how a pump works. Or figure out, gee, when
I'm taking water and I'm running through a system,
how could you make that work where you're trying
to make water travel up without electricity,
without any mechanical means? There's ways to
do it. Yeah. How would you make pressure for
something? There's actually ways to do it without
any mechanical hardware, just tubes. Yep. And
you can create a pressurized system for water.
Yep. So the fact that you can do that shows that,
you know, if people take the time to learn, you
can do anything. And there are some very good
resources out there. There are many books that
are dedicated to showing people how to survive
in situations without some of those resources
like power and electric electricity, the internet.
Yeah. So they're not very expensive. They're
worth having around. If nothing else, just for
the fact of learning things for yourself. I,
I like learning new shit just for the sake of
learning it. But that's just the kind of tism
I have. So. That and expensive cardboard. So
to kind of close everything out, you know, everything
is fine today. The lights are on, the water's
running, but that's only because the system still
works. The day may come where our precious Amazon
packages stop showing up and a trip to the hardware
store is no longer even an option. Those are
the days that we never want to see, but we have
to keep it at the back of our mind that, yeah,
it really could happen. So. Yeah, unfortunately.
Yeah. People have managed to get by through life
without a lot of our modern conveniences for
a very long time. It's only been in the last.
70 plus years, what we'll call a hundred years
that we've had a lot of the really modern technology
that we take for granted. And humanity has been
around for a lot longer than that. So it can
be done. No, it's not glorious. No, it's not
convenient, but we can survive if we have to.
So take that into consideration. Do some learning
for yourself, for others, for your family. Or
don't. Or don't. And just be a statistic at a
body on the ground in a resupply position for
somebody else. That's right. I could always use
some more fat for my soap. Hell yeah. Just like
on, oh God, what was that movie? Fight Club.
Yeah. Making the soap. Going to the liposuction
clinic. Get some soap. Yep. You render the fat,
and then you can also make high -grade explosives.
Yeah. Just don't drink it. They lipo that fat
out of Marlon Brando's ass. Don't suck on that
stuff. Ew. Ew. Oh, yeah. Candles. Obscure movie
reference. That's my ass day. Anyways. No, no,
no, no. Oh, no. No, no. Marlon Brando no here.
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