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Join us on Now We Consume. Take in the knowledge.

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Take in the laughs. Indulge in the topics with

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us. The Now We Consume podcast will take you

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through the parts of your day you normally dread.

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Why suffer through the existential crisis of

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life alone when you can do it with us? And now

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we consume. This is not meant to be a conspiracy

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episode or podcast, but we may cover some topics

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that dance that line like a toddler dances on

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their mother's last nerve. This podcast is rated

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I. Welcome to the Now We Consume podcast, everyone.

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I'm your host, Pip. Here tonight with me is my

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co -host, Gibbles. Hi. Gibbs is stuck in plumbing

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hell tonight, so we will just have him here in

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spirit. I did want to mention real quick, I got

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a letter from the IRS saying that I owe them

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for emotional damages to the economy. Apparently,

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they've been listening to the show. And my commentary

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is depressing the GDP. They're asking for $2

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,500 in reparations. So I sent them a picture

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of my empty wallet and a sad emoji. No reply

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yet. Is that why we lost the FCC guy? That's

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probably, yeah. Yeah, that's my thinking. So

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welcome to the show where we question everything

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except for my poor life choices. Why you made

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that poor man's commit to buku? You know, it

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was either that or, you know, he gets escorted

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out of certain stores for checking for a mouthfeel,

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you know? Oh, my. Oh, yes, I went there. But,

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no, tonight we had one episode lined up. And

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then we found out that Gibbs wasn't going to

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be able to join us, and it was one that he was

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really wanting to do with us. So we went back

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to the drawing board. We got this one dropped

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out, kind of like a spicy log to satisfy everyone's

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interest, hopefully. And we're going to talk

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tonight about the growing gap of hands -on capabilities.

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And the growing illusion of ownership, that you

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actually do own the things that you think you

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own. We've kind of touched on that a little bit

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in some previous episodes, but kind of a little

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bit of a deep dive on some of that. And just

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for reference, take a look around wherever you're

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at. Literally everything that you see, your heaters,

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your air conditioners, your cars, the screens

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that you're maybe watching or listening to the

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show on. They're all held together by literal

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threads of proprietary codes and a supply chain

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that is kind of in a tailspin. We feel like we're

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in control because we can click add to cart and

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then order. But what happens if that button is

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never lit up? It's currently March of 26. We're

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living on borrowed time. At least that's what

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it feels like. We've kind of traded our ability

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to survive in the physical world for the convenience

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of the digital one. So we're going to kind of

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see what's going on with things and kind of look

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at some of the terrifying reality that we're

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becoming guests in our own lives. Yeah. You remember

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when PlayStation and Xbox had that big debacle

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back in the day where... xbox is like oh it's

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gonna be all digital on the cloud and all that

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and playstation's like huh cd friend they can

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share and that was when everybody's like oh no

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you know we we're not gonna have the ability

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to own anything anymore look what happened did

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we learn something children i don't think we

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did no it doesn't seem like it and the the video

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game industry is probably one of the biggest

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spotlights of that whole you don't own what you

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buy kind of deal. Software in general, I think.

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But video games, I think, are kind of shining

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the warning siren. Yeah. If the servers go down,

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you don't have access to what you bought. And

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in some cases, people have spent hundreds or

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even thousands of dollars on some of those games.

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And once the servers go off, they have nothing

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to show for it. Yeah. Well, it's just like with

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the movies, too. Yeah. I took all my DVDs back

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in the day and had them converted at Walmart

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and they were uploaded to Vudu. And then all

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of a sudden, well, yeah, now everything's on

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Fandango. And if it wasn't for whatever streaming

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service it is at this point, I don't even remember

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anymore. That's terrible. Oh, yeah. Had they

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decided not to honor all those DVDs and everything

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that people have uploaded, oh, well, sucks to

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be you. Yeah. So it's not just on the software

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and entertainment side. We're losing skills,

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and it's kind of like a collective mechanical

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amnesia. Oh, yeah. I know. I feel like a lot

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of people listening can relate. The average person

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is more domesticated than at any point in history.

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If our GPS or the internet tutorials that we

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rely on go dark because of the current conflict

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in Iran, which let me segue real quick. Our president

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is now saying or threatening to use nukes, by

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the way, that happened yesterday. I don't know

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if y 'all heard that. The nuclear conversation

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has happened. So that's a thing we all might

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need to worry about. Well, we're going to talk

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about that probably next week. So, yeah, I do

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not like the talk of nukes. Nukes fascinate me

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because of the physics behind them. They terrify

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me on the world stage. But, yeah, we could lose

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the Internet because of the issues with Iran

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or just other bullshittery that happens. But

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if we lose the Internet, we don't just lose our

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way. We lose our ability to maintain our immediate

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environment. We all understand how interconnected

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our lives are to the internet and how grossly

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independent or dependent we all are on the internet.

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So our intelligence is not really growing. It's

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just becoming dependent on the availability of

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access to knowledge because knowledge retention

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is not there. Not like you don't need to. Exactly.

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It's now more important to know where to find

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the resource and the knowledge than it is to

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actually have the knowledge. And that's something

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that I think a lot of people are seeing in the

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workplace, in schools, and in day -to -day life.

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People can barely function unless they have their

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magic little information boxes with them. Yeah.

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I know you've seen it in your job. Yeah. Oh,

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yeah. My little job I do, fixing machines, watching

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so many people that seem to think they know what

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they're doing and break it that much harder.

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Oh, yeah. Teachers. It's great when you're doing

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repair work and you're actually going out to

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fix a repair that was already done. Yeah. Yeah.

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I had one a couple weeks ago. The person's just

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like, hey, this broke. Is this repairable? And

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takes a picture. Of the machine taken apart.

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To the point that are like, yeah, we're pointing

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at this part. However, I'm going, how did you

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get to that point without breaking into something

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that a you don't know anything about? Which,

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I mean, all good on you for trying to figure

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out, but you're paying a monthly service. So

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now you run the risk of the company going, you

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know what? We're not going to let you pay the

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monthly service anymore because you decided to

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break in and break this. So until you pay for

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what you broke, you're cut off. And then B, the

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thing they broke was just a spring, thankfully.

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They had to pull stuff out of the way. And because

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they didn't know what they were doing, they consequently

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broke the spring that they're like, oh, this

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must be the problem. And it's just like, you

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know, if you would have just left it alone, let

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me come in there and take care of it. Fine. You

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know, let me come in there and show you, hey,

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next time you go to do this, this is what you

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should do. And I've done that plenty of times

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as well. And the ones who listen do well. The

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ones who think, nah, screw you, I'm going to

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do what I want. Not so much. Yeah. It can be

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kind of fun if you're really into that kind of

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stuff and you like to solve the puzzles, you

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know, go doctor house on the equipment. But when

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you're spending more time trying to fix the fuck

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up, then it's not really worth it. Oh, yeah.

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I had a few times in the last six months where

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I was a chimpanzee with a wrench on a machine

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because I was fixing someone's F up who thought

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they knew better than us, the tax. So I'm fixing

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their screw up and then having to fix whatever

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was wrong with the machine originally. Yeah.

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So I, I said that the intelligence isn't really

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growing more and more. It seems like humans,

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at all, uh, are becoming highly efficient biological

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peripherals to the devices that we depend so

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much on. And I, I, I have a couple of questions

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that I, that I have written up for some of this,

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and this isn't just for you. This is for anybody

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that wants to chime in. Um, so by all means,

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please hit us up on the socials, hit on discord

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or whatnot. Um, if the internet were to go dark

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for a week, Do you guys have the physical manuals

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for the gear in your shop or your day -to -day

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lives or the actual skill sets that you need

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to be able to keep everything running? Or do

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you guys strictly depend on things like access

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to YouTube? It's my noggin. I took the time and

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learned. Yeah. I got my edge of mycation. Thank

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you, military. Yep. And I know you and I both

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have maker -type hobbies or even side deals.

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If all of the pre -cut lumber and the proprietary

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bits stop shipping, what can you actually build

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from the dirt up? Right. I know I got some capabilities,

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like you said, that if I lose some gears, if

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I lose certain things, I'm still able to keep

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running somewhat. Yeah. On my end, being able

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to do the woodworking that I do and some of the

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fabrication stuff, I think I would be reasonably

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okay. I would like to invest in something like

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a filament maker for the 3D printing. but I would

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also like to get a better 3d printer. Um, just

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because I, yeah, I've, I've had my 3d printer

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since like 2017. It's, it's, it's got some miles

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on it, but it's a, it's a workhorse. Uh, but

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I, I think that most people that have those types

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of hobbies also have the ancillary skills to

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be able to support at least a portion of their

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work and could do, you know, a certain percentage

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of that type of kind of survival type work. So

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that's just my opinion, at least. Yeah. But kind

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of talking about that, the, the just in time,

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I named it here, the suicide pact, our world

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really runs on just in time inventory. And I

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know, you know, this most people that listen

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kind of understand this. And we've talked about

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that in the shows where we discuss like grocery

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stores, if there's a mass blackout and how most

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stores only have a couple days worth of inventory

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on hand. Yeah. Our system is designed for a world

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that never stops moving. And if all the gears

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grind to a halt, then most people's day -to -day

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lives will also grind to a halt. Because most

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people rely on those just -in -time deliveries

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for their household, too. Not even just their

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businesses, but their households. I know several

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people that literally only keep a couple days'

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worth of food and supplies for their home, their

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business, everything. And they just rely on things

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to come when it's scheduled. How would your business

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fare if you couldn't head out to do a repair

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until you got your... Stuff delivered. That happens

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a lot. We have to. We have. Toner. Developer.

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Certain types of parts that wear out. That are

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considered consumable. Those we keep on hand.

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Fairly regularly. At least we try. Parts that.

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They don't normally break. Those ones. are the

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ones that we have to order and you pray that

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they've been manufactured in the last six months

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because otherwise you get back orders and then

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you have to wait for them to show up yeah yeah

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i mean we all saw the the supply chain pinch

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during covet oh yeah but um yeah during covet

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you know from what i was told by my co -workers

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what happened back you know at that point before

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i decide to join them in the fun trades um, they

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couldn't get toner or they couldn't get, um,

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you know, what toner they did get was all like

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off brand, you know, I almost call it black market

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type toner. Cause you know, they had to like,

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you know, get stuff that either had to be mixed

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or poured in. And within two weeks they were

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going back to all the machines cause they were

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all jamming because the toner mix wasn't correct

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for that, that particular model. Yeah. Yeah.

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Hell I've, I've got a printer sitting over here

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that, won't take aftermarket ink. It's an HP

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printer, which is bullshit. I own the printer.

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Why can't I use whatever ink I want? It won't

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work unless I use HP brand ink. That's bullshit.

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That's not what I want to use in my printer.

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Yeah. So... I put down the for how long feel.

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We currently have Operation Epic Fury entering

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week two, just about to enter into week three.

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So the just -in -time shipments are starting

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to become never. Yeah. We've optimized for efficiency,

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but we've sacrificed resilience. The issues in

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the Strait of Hormuz. are starting to impact

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oil and that's going to impact a lot of things

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via the ripple effect. So a lot of industries

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are going to start kind of reining in a lot of

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shipping things. Yes. Because I mean, diesel's

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already flown way high in my area. It went from

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three 69 to five 45 in the course of a week and

00:16:33.620 --> 00:16:37.279
a half. Yeah. Absolutely disgusting how fast

00:16:37.279 --> 00:16:39.299
that went. Yeah, I can't even imagine what it

00:16:39.299 --> 00:16:41.139
is out in California. It's probably $10 a gallon

00:16:41.139 --> 00:16:46.600
out there. Yeah, no. No, thank you. And then

00:16:46.600 --> 00:16:49.600
you've got all of the trade jobs that are going

00:16:49.600 --> 00:16:51.580
to start feeling the effect because they rely

00:16:51.580 --> 00:16:57.620
on things that get shipped. Yeah. So we have

00:16:57.620 --> 00:17:01.539
this conflict in Iran that is going to cause

00:17:01.539 --> 00:17:04.369
an effect here. Because of what's going on there.

00:17:04.710 --> 00:17:07.529
And it's just going to start going back and forth.

00:17:07.569 --> 00:17:10.170
And impacting everything else. And like I said.

00:17:10.289 --> 00:17:14.190
Go ahead. I was going to say prices are going

00:17:14.190 --> 00:17:17.650
to go up. Again. And they won't go back down.

00:17:17.769 --> 00:17:20.049
Because there will be some other excuse. That

00:17:20.049 --> 00:17:22.289
these stupid ass companies will come up with.

00:17:22.589 --> 00:17:25.670
And everybody knows it. Everybody in the government

00:17:25.670 --> 00:17:28.910
knows it. But because corporations are considered

00:17:28.910 --> 00:17:33.690
people too. They can sit there and lobby and

00:17:33.690 --> 00:17:36.970
all that stuff, and there's not a damn thing

00:17:36.970 --> 00:17:42.450
we can do about it. Yeah. Yeah, that's painful.

00:17:43.349 --> 00:17:48.009
And I feel bad for the people that do that independent,

00:17:48.490 --> 00:17:55.190
because that's their livelihood. Yeah. But when

00:17:55.190 --> 00:17:58.829
the parts stop coming, the people that click

00:17:58.829 --> 00:18:01.869
buy now, We'll be at the mercy of the makers,

00:18:02.049 --> 00:18:04.509
the people like us that know how to actually

00:18:04.509 --> 00:18:08.450
make shit. Yeah. That's something that I don't

00:18:08.450 --> 00:18:13.950
really think the population at large really understands

00:18:13.950 --> 00:18:18.069
or appreciates. Yeah, because the U .S., we've

00:18:18.069 --> 00:18:22.269
sent so much stuff overseas. If the trades all

00:18:22.269 --> 00:18:25.089
of a sudden, the trading partners just decide,

00:18:25.150 --> 00:18:26.569
you know what, screw you. We're not trading with

00:18:26.569 --> 00:18:32.119
you no more. We have no way. to restart half

00:18:32.119 --> 00:18:35.460
the stuff we need to keep things going efficiently

00:18:35.460 --> 00:18:42.799
let alone at all yeah yeah it's uh just like

00:18:42.799 --> 00:18:46.920
when we were talking about um like the the blackout

00:18:46.920 --> 00:18:50.640
situation trying to do a full cold start we would

00:18:50.640 --> 00:18:53.200
be years because the amount of parts we need

00:18:53.200 --> 00:18:56.900
we don't have we don't make we don't keep the

00:18:56.900 --> 00:18:59.480
u .s wouldn't exist anymore at that point Yeah.

00:19:00.759 --> 00:19:03.000
So, and, and that's just another example of the

00:19:03.000 --> 00:19:05.619
just in time stuff, because we would rely on

00:19:05.619 --> 00:19:07.359
other countries to supply us with those parts.

00:19:07.900 --> 00:19:09.940
And not a lot of countries are real happy with

00:19:09.940 --> 00:19:14.279
us right now. No. So we might not get those parts

00:19:14.279 --> 00:19:21.420
for a while, if ever. Yeah. So, uh, you want

00:19:21.420 --> 00:19:25.420
to take this next section here? Do I have to

00:19:25.420 --> 00:19:26.940
wait? Let me, let me go back to the questions.

00:19:27.019 --> 00:19:31.700
Cause I, I know I had these. Yeah, section three,

00:19:31.720 --> 00:19:34.599
but let me do these. So the war in Iran just

00:19:34.599 --> 00:19:37.839
pushed gas to a new high. I know it went up in

00:19:37.839 --> 00:19:42.039
my area again. At what point, at what price point

00:19:42.039 --> 00:19:45.299
does it become illegal for a regular person to

00:19:45.299 --> 00:19:48.519
become self -sufficient? When does the cost of

00:19:48.519 --> 00:19:53.140
the wrench exceed the value of the repair? And

00:19:53.140 --> 00:19:54.839
this is going to take us into the next section.

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Do you think, and this is kind of the way I wanted

00:20:00.839 --> 00:20:03.220
to word this, do you think that there's going

00:20:03.220 --> 00:20:05.599
to be anything if things start to get too out

00:20:05.599 --> 00:20:09.720
of hand to where state, local, or even federal

00:20:09.720 --> 00:20:12.480
governments will begin to limit our abilities

00:20:12.480 --> 00:20:19.880
to do repairs? Hmm. Well, with the cost of gas,

00:20:20.000 --> 00:20:25.880
I'm not sure how that correlates, but... To me,

00:20:25.920 --> 00:20:30.160
it's just all about how much the government's

00:20:30.160 --> 00:20:34.180
lobbied by who. When you've got John Deere and

00:20:34.180 --> 00:20:36.960
Apple and everyone like that really fighting

00:20:36.960 --> 00:20:41.240
to keep us to where we're not supposed to be

00:20:41.240 --> 00:20:44.519
able to repair our own stuff. Yet, they can't

00:20:44.519 --> 00:20:48.359
void your warranty. Yeah. Which is hilarious.

00:20:49.099 --> 00:20:53.759
Oh, yeah. Unless you get it wet. Yeah. Oh yeah.

00:20:54.339 --> 00:20:57.920
Don't get it wet. Yeah. And then this one, if

00:20:57.920 --> 00:21:01.920
the supply chain were to snap tonight, which

00:21:01.920 --> 00:21:05.220
of your essential tools is the first one to become

00:21:05.220 --> 00:21:11.680
a 50 pound paperweight? Hmm. Well, once my filament

00:21:11.680 --> 00:21:14.339
runs out, it'd be my a 3d printer. That's for

00:21:14.339 --> 00:21:17.759
damn sure. Yeah. Yeah. That's that filament.

00:21:17.980 --> 00:21:20.400
That's worthless. That's kind of why I want to

00:21:20.400 --> 00:21:24.019
get a filament maker. Yeah. I mean, soda bottles

00:21:24.019 --> 00:21:28.339
make for great filament, so. Yeah. And you can

00:21:28.339 --> 00:21:31.940
make PLA out of some pretty easy stuff. Yeah.

00:21:32.640 --> 00:21:38.240
No more Japan, great. Yeah. All my snackies.

00:21:38.660 --> 00:21:42.420
Yeah, right? You want to take section three here?

00:21:43.519 --> 00:21:46.900
Oh, for the pivot three? No, on the main notes.

00:21:47.299 --> 00:21:50.819
Oh, that one. Oh, right, right. I see it now.

00:21:51.789 --> 00:21:56.650
So in 2026, we are now on track to generate 75

00:21:56.650 --> 00:22:00.210
million metric tons of e -waste this year alone.

00:22:00.470 --> 00:22:06.170
Oh, yeah. This is 30 % increase since 2022. But

00:22:06.170 --> 00:22:10.569
the dystopian kicker is. We are landfilling over

00:22:10.569 --> 00:22:13.730
$62 .5 billion worth of gold and rare earth elements

00:22:13.730 --> 00:22:17.210
annually because of parts pairing. Also because

00:22:17.210 --> 00:22:19.930
you've got companies that go out and sue recyclers

00:22:19.930 --> 00:22:22.970
that take it upon themselves to take said parts

00:22:22.970 --> 00:22:26.690
and recycle it. Uh -huh. And I want to say that

00:22:26.690 --> 00:22:33.930
number one more time. $62 .5 billion with a B

00:22:33.930 --> 00:22:41.519
worth of gold and rare earth. I don't know that

00:22:41.519 --> 00:22:45.279
person. That's getting put into the landfills.

00:22:47.140 --> 00:22:51.359
Yeah. It's disgusting. I'm wondering how long

00:22:51.359 --> 00:22:53.940
it's going to be before we have people going

00:22:53.940 --> 00:23:00.700
to landfills to become like gold diggers. Right.

00:23:01.180 --> 00:23:04.059
Like gold painters like they do on YouTube and

00:23:04.059 --> 00:23:07.980
shit. Looking for these gold and rare earth deposits

00:23:07.980 --> 00:23:12.569
in landfills. Right. What kills me is when I

00:23:12.569 --> 00:23:16.430
lived down south in Maryland, it wasn't even

00:23:16.430 --> 00:23:19.049
on her. I'd take my television if it was broke

00:23:19.049 --> 00:23:22.329
and I wasn't able to fix any more toast or whatever.

00:23:22.769 --> 00:23:25.390
I'd take it to the landfill. And they had a recycling

00:23:25.390 --> 00:23:28.269
center right next door. So if it was something

00:23:28.269 --> 00:23:30.309
that could be recycled, they'd have you put it

00:23:30.309 --> 00:23:32.569
into the green bin. And if it couldn't be, they'd

00:23:32.569 --> 00:23:34.329
put it into a separate bin. But that's where

00:23:34.329 --> 00:23:36.509
they would take it, break it down, and get it

00:23:36.509 --> 00:23:40.099
for the material. Yeah. Up north here, you don't

00:23:40.099 --> 00:23:42.559
see that anywhere. It drives me nuts. I'm like,

00:23:42.640 --> 00:23:47.160
twice a year we get the collection for electronics

00:23:47.160 --> 00:23:50.339
and stuff like that or tires. But the rest of

00:23:50.339 --> 00:23:53.519
the year, it's sitting in just piles. It's like,

00:23:53.519 --> 00:23:56.839
why are we not taking the time to rip this stuff

00:23:56.839 --> 00:24:00.460
apart and get the metals out of them? Right.

00:24:00.759 --> 00:24:05.980
Because there's a lot of studies and there's

00:24:05.980 --> 00:24:09.849
a lot of... videos and whatnot that have come

00:24:09.849 --> 00:24:13.329
out saying that it's not worth it. But at the

00:24:13.329 --> 00:24:17.390
same time, there's been just as many now with

00:24:17.390 --> 00:24:19.329
the price of precious metals that has gone up

00:24:19.329 --> 00:24:21.089
over the past year. That's saying it actually

00:24:21.089 --> 00:24:24.009
is worth it to do it now. Yeah. If you do it

00:24:24.009 --> 00:24:26.170
correctly, it is worth it. Yeah. Well, you've

00:24:26.170 --> 00:24:28.009
got companies in California that sit there and

00:24:28.009 --> 00:24:30.750
like recycle stuff and they're pulling out the

00:24:30.750 --> 00:24:33.170
precious metals at PCs, cell phones and stuff

00:24:33.170 --> 00:24:36.380
like that. And if they're making it work, you

00:24:36.380 --> 00:24:37.960
know, how can we sit there and say that it's

00:24:37.960 --> 00:24:46.259
not worth it? Yeah. It's, uh, it's, it's something

00:24:46.259 --> 00:24:55.559
that needs, uh, looked at again. And, uh, you

00:24:55.559 --> 00:24:59.819
good? Yeah. My discord also decided to restart

00:24:59.819 --> 00:25:02.799
on me. Oh, okay. All right. That was strange.

00:25:04.200 --> 00:25:09.440
So yeah, there's a lot that needs to happen that

00:25:09.440 --> 00:25:14.720
I don't think anyone is really looking at because

00:25:14.720 --> 00:25:18.220
it's trash, it's recycling, it's stuff that has

00:25:18.220 --> 00:25:22.259
been looked at for years that I don't think anyone

00:25:22.259 --> 00:25:25.440
has really taken the time to look at again. Some

00:25:25.440 --> 00:25:27.579
people are with the cost of some of these rare

00:25:27.579 --> 00:25:29.079
metals that have been going up, like I said,

00:25:29.160 --> 00:25:33.539
but not enough and not the right people. Yeah.

00:25:36.430 --> 00:25:42.549
So go ahead and continue on. Okay, I'll put that

00:25:42.549 --> 00:25:47.529
back up there. Even with right -to -repair laws

00:25:47.529 --> 00:25:50.630
in states like Oregon, manufacturers are using

00:25:50.630 --> 00:25:53.390
software to serialize components. If you swap

00:25:53.390 --> 00:25:56.829
a genuine battery or screen, the device rejects

00:25:56.829 --> 00:26:03.130
the organ transplant. Yes, that is fairly true

00:26:03.130 --> 00:26:06.779
depending on where you are. unfortunately yeah

00:26:06.779 --> 00:26:10.079
um i know new york was supposed to be working

00:26:10.079 --> 00:26:14.460
on a right to repair or yeah i think that was

00:26:14.460 --> 00:26:18.759
them and it almost got all the way through but

00:26:18.759 --> 00:26:22.059
then somebody decided to put their sticky little

00:26:22.059 --> 00:26:24.819
fingers into it and basically make it worthless

00:26:24.819 --> 00:26:28.079
which that's when you just want to go okay which

00:26:28.079 --> 00:26:30.099
politician was it and how much are they getting

00:26:30.099 --> 00:26:33.990
paid because at that point you need to go ahead

00:26:33.990 --> 00:26:38.089
and just get them kicked out of office. Absolutely.

00:26:38.670 --> 00:26:40.650
Because you're not working for your constituents.

00:26:40.730 --> 00:26:44.250
You're being paid under the table, essentially.

00:26:46.569 --> 00:26:49.190
And if Supreme Court doesn't want to say that's

00:26:49.190 --> 00:26:54.309
illegal, I'm sorry. To me, that's illegal. Yeah,

00:26:54.349 --> 00:27:00.799
and it's something that's been... talked about

00:27:00.799 --> 00:27:04.619
for long enough that enough people have gotten

00:27:04.619 --> 00:27:09.039
behind it. There's been enough support in Congress

00:27:09.039 --> 00:27:12.880
that we've had enough people that are farmers

00:27:12.880 --> 00:27:15.819
go to Congress to do things like right to repair

00:27:15.819 --> 00:27:19.380
because of companies like John Deere. Yeah. They've

00:27:19.380 --> 00:27:23.839
had to eat so many repair bills because John

00:27:23.839 --> 00:27:27.200
Deere is, sorry, a big enough piece of shit when

00:27:27.200 --> 00:27:28.980
it comes to repairing the stuff that you buy

00:27:28.980 --> 00:27:31.990
from them. And we talked about that back in our

00:27:31.990 --> 00:27:37.289
right to repair episode. Right. Yeah. It's dumb.

00:27:38.809 --> 00:27:45.109
Yeah. So, yeah, I mean, it goes all the way into

00:27:45.109 --> 00:27:47.069
food for Christ's sake. Oh yeah. You can't even

00:27:47.069 --> 00:27:49.730
be a farmer without, you know, fearing that you

00:27:49.730 --> 00:27:53.289
go and you go plant crops and all of a sudden,

00:27:53.309 --> 00:27:55.349
you know, your neighbor who's using the, the

00:27:55.349 --> 00:27:58.579
gene stuff. You know, that they paid for and

00:27:58.579 --> 00:28:00.819
it also ends up on your soil and you accidentally

00:28:00.819 --> 00:28:03.900
used what came off their land and not even realize

00:28:03.900 --> 00:28:07.220
it. Guess what? You're getting sued. Yeah. For

00:28:07.220 --> 00:28:10.579
copyright infringement of all things. Random,

00:28:10.599 --> 00:28:14.140
random tidbit. I just found out farmers are not

00:28:14.140 --> 00:28:17.140
allowed to use the stuff that they harvest as

00:28:17.140 --> 00:28:20.460
as replant for the crops. They have to buy new

00:28:20.460 --> 00:28:23.000
seed. They're not allowed to replant what they

00:28:23.000 --> 00:28:26.730
harvest. Why the hell? Is that even a thing?

00:28:27.750 --> 00:28:30.289
Oh, that's for all the guys that are using, like,

00:28:30.390 --> 00:28:33.069
what is that, Osantis or whatever that company

00:28:33.069 --> 00:28:36.369
is that makes all the corn and everything. Monsanto.

00:28:36.470 --> 00:28:39.650
Yeah, Monsanto. They make that part of their

00:28:39.650 --> 00:28:43.130
contract where you can't. Yeah, you're renting

00:28:43.130 --> 00:28:45.750
the seeds. You're not actually. You're not purchasing

00:28:45.750 --> 00:28:48.289
the rights to keep growing it. That's why if

00:28:48.289 --> 00:28:50.829
you're going to do that stuff, you don't go with

00:28:50.829 --> 00:28:54.769
companies like that. You just buy your corn seed

00:28:54.769 --> 00:29:00.170
and then give them the middle finger. Yeah. But

00:29:00.170 --> 00:29:02.069
then you run the risk of having everything destroyed

00:29:02.069 --> 00:29:04.410
by the pests that they've genetically modified

00:29:04.410 --> 00:29:07.210
to attack those kinds of crops and not their

00:29:07.210 --> 00:29:11.579
own genetically modified crops. No, I'm not wearing

00:29:11.579 --> 00:29:14.019
a tinfoil hat. My God, I've watched this shit

00:29:14.019 --> 00:29:19.200
happen over the years. Or like I said, they'll

00:29:19.200 --> 00:29:21.519
just sue that farmer that's not using their stuff

00:29:21.519 --> 00:29:24.299
because then they'll just say, hey, that corn's

00:29:24.299 --> 00:29:26.279
ended up in their field. They should have known

00:29:26.279 --> 00:29:30.720
that it wasn't theirs. Yep. Yeah, because the

00:29:30.720 --> 00:29:32.819
natural corn grows like four or five foot high.

00:29:33.059 --> 00:29:37.400
The weird corn grows nine foot high. Right. So

00:29:37.400 --> 00:29:43.220
they have to go pull those stocks. God forbid.

00:29:43.400 --> 00:29:45.500
They look the same. They taste the same, but

00:29:45.500 --> 00:29:48.819
one's got a different genetic diversity to it.

00:29:48.880 --> 00:29:51.359
So you can't eat that one. Well, how the hell?

00:29:51.619 --> 00:29:59.059
It's the same with people, okay? Right. Some

00:29:59.059 --> 00:30:01.039
people would like to say they can't claim everybody,

00:30:01.099 --> 00:30:04.799
but it's like that stupid brother in the closet.

00:30:04.960 --> 00:30:10.130
You have to recognize him, too. Yeah. fresh though

00:30:10.130 --> 00:30:14.269
they may be anyways keep moving on so you know

00:30:14.269 --> 00:30:18.390
i mean we've already mentioned john deer lock

00:30:18.390 --> 00:30:22.089
the lockouts uh farmers in midwest fighting software

00:30:22.089 --> 00:30:25.450
firewalls yeah i mean that's the same with your

00:30:25.450 --> 00:30:28.029
cell phones that's with just about anything you

00:30:28.029 --> 00:30:32.029
have i mean hell the 3d printer i got They just

00:30:32.029 --> 00:30:34.410
recently, as of last year, made it to where you

00:30:34.410 --> 00:30:36.630
can't even use off -brand software because they

00:30:36.630 --> 00:30:40.049
updated their equipment or through firmware to

00:30:40.049 --> 00:30:43.609
where you can only use theirs. And when enough

00:30:43.609 --> 00:30:46.309
people had a hissy fit about it, they're just

00:30:46.309 --> 00:30:48.329
like, well, then don't update the firmware and

00:30:48.329 --> 00:30:54.549
you can still use the other stuff. Yeah. So it's

00:30:54.549 --> 00:30:56.990
stuff like that where I don't understand how

00:30:56.990 --> 00:31:00.210
that's not considered a monopoly. yeah you know

00:31:00.210 --> 00:31:03.109
apple having their own app store and then telling

00:31:03.109 --> 00:31:05.329
everybody well you can only use our parts and

00:31:05.329 --> 00:31:07.849
it has to be registered through us and you should

00:31:07.849 --> 00:31:10.970
only have to use our company to repair a product

00:31:10.970 --> 00:31:14.750
that 20 years ago you could crack open with a

00:31:14.750 --> 00:31:16.849
screwdriver and just be like hey need a new battery

00:31:16.849 --> 00:31:20.210
because you know we all remember radio shack

00:31:20.210 --> 00:31:22.230
that are old enough you could walk into a radio

00:31:22.230 --> 00:31:24.490
shack get a cell phone battery because the one

00:31:24.490 --> 00:31:27.160
you had stopped charging so well Threw the next

00:31:27.160 --> 00:31:28.900
cell phone battery in and walked out and you

00:31:28.900 --> 00:31:33.259
were good to go. Yeah. Yeah, back in the good

00:31:33.259 --> 00:31:37.119
old days, you know? Yeah. Back when you had a

00:31:37.119 --> 00:31:42.279
cell phone that could crush a skull. Right. And

00:31:42.279 --> 00:31:46.039
most of those stores are just gone now and it's

00:31:46.039 --> 00:31:51.640
sad. Yeah. So. Well, Radio Shack messed up once

00:31:51.640 --> 00:31:54.640
they got away from their core market, which was...

00:31:55.000 --> 00:32:00.539
DIY repairs. Yes. Yeah, it was fun back in the

00:32:00.539 --> 00:32:06.259
day. Yeah. Ah, so now you have the maker underworld.

00:32:07.259 --> 00:32:12.380
Yes. The new elite. Yes, we as makers will claim

00:32:12.380 --> 00:32:16.539
the overworld as our own. Yeah, until Congress

00:32:16.539 --> 00:32:18.900
decides to make all that shit illegal. Right.

00:32:20.400 --> 00:32:26.420
You could make a gun with it. Yeah, and I know

00:32:26.420 --> 00:32:31.079
we talked about that pretty recently, but so

00:32:31.079 --> 00:32:35.920
as the hands -on gap widens, there is a new class

00:32:35.920 --> 00:32:40.579
in society forming. We as makers will become

00:32:40.579 --> 00:32:43.400
the overlords of society when everything falls

00:32:43.400 --> 00:32:48.240
apart. Talking from the workshop perspective,

00:32:48.460 --> 00:32:52.390
using a laser engraver, or a wood shop will no

00:32:52.390 --> 00:32:55.390
longer just be a hobby. It's going to be a form

00:32:55.390 --> 00:32:58.390
of guerrilla maintenance. And that's kind of

00:32:58.390 --> 00:33:00.329
what I was kind of leaning into with the whole,

00:33:00.470 --> 00:33:03.170
do you think it'll ever be illegal to do your

00:33:03.170 --> 00:33:07.549
own repairs? At some point, I think the supply

00:33:07.549 --> 00:33:11.369
chain, this is theoretical. If the supply chain

00:33:11.369 --> 00:33:14.730
gets that bad, you know, will, will there come

00:33:14.730 --> 00:33:18.150
a time when. doing those repairs because the

00:33:18.150 --> 00:33:21.329
government is hoarding down supplies you know

00:33:21.329 --> 00:33:23.849
you should be turning this in like back during

00:33:23.849 --> 00:33:26.829
the war you know give your your gold silver copper

00:33:26.829 --> 00:33:29.029
you know give it to the military for for the

00:33:29.029 --> 00:33:33.269
good of the war effort that kind of stuff uh

00:33:33.269 --> 00:33:36.309
so while the rest of the world waits for a corporate

00:33:36.309 --> 00:33:39.829
technician who won't be coming the makers are

00:33:39.829 --> 00:33:43.230
going to be pirating their own reality and yeah

00:33:43.230 --> 00:33:46.579
just like how uh back in the day when farmers

00:33:46.579 --> 00:33:48.740
would lose their house to the bank, they would

00:33:48.740 --> 00:33:50.980
all attend the auction and they would let the

00:33:50.980 --> 00:33:55.019
farmer buy back their house and bully any of

00:33:55.019 --> 00:33:58.480
the big builders out of the auction. Yeah. It's

00:33:58.480 --> 00:34:00.180
right in the kick of the butt. And that's the

00:34:00.180 --> 00:34:03.240
way it should be done. Yeah. I fully support

00:34:03.240 --> 00:34:06.680
that. Yeah. We'll just kind of turn into Cuba

00:34:06.680 --> 00:34:08.559
when it comes to repairing and keeping things

00:34:08.559 --> 00:34:14.269
running. yes uh cuba for all their faults have

00:34:14.269 --> 00:34:16.389
a very resilient society because they've been

00:34:16.389 --> 00:34:20.429
forced to yeah the fact that they've got cars

00:34:20.429 --> 00:34:23.730
you know that are considerably kissed yeah they're

00:34:23.730 --> 00:34:26.929
like historic in our country that run just as

00:34:26.929 --> 00:34:30.090
good as they did back in the day yeah because

00:34:30.090 --> 00:34:32.750
they had no choice but to keep them running yeah

00:34:32.750 --> 00:34:38.760
so um Let me backtrack for just a second because

00:34:38.760 --> 00:34:41.840
we got to talking about the whole John Deere

00:34:41.840 --> 00:34:49.360
locks out all their shit, right? If a farmer's

00:34:49.360 --> 00:34:55.059
tractor is locked down during a famine, like

00:34:55.059 --> 00:34:58.599
food stocks are like not available in stores

00:34:58.599 --> 00:35:03.139
and he's got a field full of food, but he's been

00:35:03.139 --> 00:35:04.760
told, hey, you're not allowed to harvest this.

00:35:06.359 --> 00:35:10.019
If that farmer gets help and hacks the code on

00:35:10.019 --> 00:35:13.699
his tractor so that he can use it, will he be

00:35:13.699 --> 00:35:17.300
viewed as a hero or a digital pirate in the eyes

00:35:17.300 --> 00:35:20.300
of the system? In the eyes of the system, it's

00:35:20.300 --> 00:35:24.239
going to be both. Yeah. Because you're still

00:35:24.239 --> 00:35:25.860
going to have people that are using the system

00:35:25.860 --> 00:35:28.300
that are going to be like, you know, yeah, you

00:35:28.300 --> 00:35:29.820
shouldn't have done that. But you know what?

00:35:29.840 --> 00:35:34.219
He's feeding people. Yeah. And are the people.

00:35:34.679 --> 00:35:36.840
that he's feeding going to be the same ones coming

00:35:36.840 --> 00:35:41.500
after him? No. Yeah. I don't think he would be

00:35:41.500 --> 00:35:44.239
able to be found at that point. Miraculously.

00:35:47.019 --> 00:35:49.400
He'll, he'll learn how to fly out the window

00:35:49.400 --> 00:35:55.780
like Putin's friends. Oh God. Yes. But no, it's,

00:35:55.780 --> 00:35:59.679
it's things like that, that if, you know, if

00:35:59.679 --> 00:36:02.360
things get bad enough, you're going to see things

00:36:02.360 --> 00:36:06.440
like that happening. because national emergencies

00:36:06.440 --> 00:36:11.739
will start locking down things and systems that

00:36:11.739 --> 00:36:15.360
we depend on. And they could inadvertently lock

00:36:15.360 --> 00:36:19.400
down things like farm equipment. It's not something

00:36:19.400 --> 00:36:22.239
that people think about, but as I was kind of

00:36:22.239 --> 00:36:24.699
looking over the research for this, it was something

00:36:24.699 --> 00:36:29.340
that came up because there's a lot of like auxiliary

00:36:29.340 --> 00:36:32.260
and ancillary systems that are tied in with each

00:36:32.260 --> 00:36:35.340
other. that during a national emergency could

00:36:35.340 --> 00:36:37.300
be locked down. I'm not saying they would be,

00:36:37.340 --> 00:36:39.840
but they could be, and it would be kind of like

00:36:39.840 --> 00:36:43.780
an oversight deal. So if this stuff gets locked

00:36:43.780 --> 00:36:45.719
down and these people don't have access to their

00:36:45.719 --> 00:36:47.599
own equipment to use it the way they're supposed

00:36:47.599 --> 00:36:56.300
to, they have to find a workaround. Yeah. It's

00:36:56.300 --> 00:36:58.239
one of those things, especially in that situation

00:36:58.239 --> 00:37:01.320
where You're hard -pressed to find somebody that's

00:37:01.320 --> 00:37:03.420
going to go after them unless it's specifically

00:37:03.420 --> 00:37:06.300
the people from the company itself that are paid

00:37:06.300 --> 00:37:09.340
enough to actually give a shit. Otherwise, your

00:37:09.340 --> 00:37:12.139
low -level employees are not going to care. No.

00:37:12.340 --> 00:37:14.059
Especially because they're going to be benefiting

00:37:14.059 --> 00:37:17.659
from it. Right. Your low -level government institutions

00:37:17.659 --> 00:37:20.980
aren't going to care. People that directly benefit

00:37:20.980 --> 00:37:23.800
from that farmer jailbreaking the equipment,

00:37:24.079 --> 00:37:26.809
they don't give a shit. All they're going to

00:37:26.809 --> 00:37:29.530
see is some corporate, you know, snozz coming

00:37:29.530 --> 00:37:32.130
in and everybody's just going to be like, yeah,

00:37:32.269 --> 00:37:37.409
no F off. You know, there, and there's no reason

00:37:37.409 --> 00:37:39.190
they're doing, should be doing this and getting

00:37:39.190 --> 00:37:43.829
away with it. None whatsoever. No, there is nothing

00:37:43.829 --> 00:37:46.989
on that machine that needs that kind of proprietary

00:37:46.989 --> 00:37:50.710
safety. No, nothing. It's literally situations

00:37:50.710 --> 00:37:55.429
like that, that will create more and more. marvin

00:37:55.429 --> 00:37:58.809
haymeyer's out in society long live the killdozer

00:37:58.809 --> 00:38:02.429
yeah if the government actually enforced their

00:38:02.429 --> 00:38:05.610
monopoly rules we wouldn't be in this situation

00:38:05.610 --> 00:38:09.210
yeah yeah because god forbid we enforce the laws

00:38:09.210 --> 00:38:11.329
we have on the books no we got to come up with

00:38:11.329 --> 00:38:15.429
new ones or just ignore the ones we have it's

00:38:15.429 --> 00:38:18.429
either we enforce the ones we got or no excuse

00:38:18.429 --> 00:38:20.789
me well i'm saying that wrong it's either we're

00:38:20.789 --> 00:38:24.210
not enforcing the ones we've got And then you

00:38:24.210 --> 00:38:26.130
also got the other side that was like, no, we're

00:38:26.130 --> 00:38:27.289
not going to enforce it, but we're going to make

00:38:27.289 --> 00:38:29.630
more new rules. And we're going to make certain

00:38:29.630 --> 00:38:36.730
effects you, but no one else. Yeah. So a question

00:38:36.730 --> 00:38:40.289
comes up. How long can a society function when

00:38:40.289 --> 00:38:43.550
only 1 % of the population understands how things

00:38:43.550 --> 00:38:45.670
like the plumbing, the power, and the engines

00:38:45.670 --> 00:38:51.789
actually work? When the electricity goes off?

00:38:52.829 --> 00:39:00.989
Not long. The moment there's no internet? Yeah,

00:39:01.070 --> 00:39:04.250
that's when your backyard mechanic suddenly becomes

00:39:04.250 --> 00:39:08.769
king. Yeah. The dude that knows how to fix everything?

00:39:09.010 --> 00:39:18.469
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Coffin, steel. There's a

00:39:18.469 --> 00:39:21.090
lot you can do with that. Dude, raw materials

00:39:21.090 --> 00:39:23.699
will suddenly be worth equivalent to like gold

00:39:23.699 --> 00:39:30.119
and silver at that point yeah um i know i had

00:39:30.119 --> 00:39:34.079
a hot wire car but that's just me do you think

00:39:34.079 --> 00:39:38.320
under the right circumstances um unauthorized

00:39:38.320 --> 00:39:40.460
repairs could ever be classified as a threat

00:39:40.460 --> 00:39:48.780
to national security that i can't see unless

00:39:48.780 --> 00:39:51.000
you've got a just full -on corrupt government

00:39:51.610 --> 00:39:54.110
At that point, I'd say then it could. But right

00:39:54.110 --> 00:39:56.690
now, even with the people we have in office right

00:39:56.690 --> 00:40:03.070
now, no. No way. Nobody in office right now is

00:40:03.070 --> 00:40:07.570
that stupid. Even our blonde -haired hero in

00:40:07.570 --> 00:40:12.789
office, even he ain't that silly. I say that

00:40:12.789 --> 00:40:16.090
very, very lightly. Very tongue -in -cheek. Yes,

00:40:16.869 --> 00:40:25.630
I have a sense of humor. You do? I drink that

00:40:25.630 --> 00:40:31.110
haterade equally. Oh, yes. Is there a point where

00:40:31.110 --> 00:40:35.269
a 3D printer could become a printing press for

00:40:35.269 --> 00:40:42.409
sedition? Depends on who you ask. I had to put

00:40:42.409 --> 00:40:43.849
that one in there just because of some of the

00:40:43.849 --> 00:40:46.610
laws that have been getting looked at. Yeah.

00:40:47.309 --> 00:40:49.230
If they pass some of the laws that they want,

00:40:49.349 --> 00:40:51.739
it could. potentially be looked like at that

00:40:51.739 --> 00:40:55.079
way i guess i think it's absolutely dumb yeah

00:40:55.079 --> 00:40:59.739
same here i mean it comes down to who's using

00:40:59.739 --> 00:41:03.380
it for what purpose and it always will yeah yeah

00:41:03.380 --> 00:41:05.739
to me it comes it's not even a gun issue just

00:41:05.739 --> 00:41:08.500
like a lot of these gun issues that democrats

00:41:08.500 --> 00:41:10.860
and everybody keeps coming up with and i'm sorry

00:41:10.860 --> 00:41:13.539
it's mostly democrats that keep doing it not

00:41:13.539 --> 00:41:17.420
always but a lot of them do it's They're trying

00:41:17.420 --> 00:41:19.619
to create a boogeyman for some reason. And to

00:41:19.619 --> 00:41:23.760
me, it smells like it's definitely not passing

00:41:23.760 --> 00:41:25.679
the smell test when it comes to them saying,

00:41:25.820 --> 00:41:29.000
oh, it's a gun issue. It, to me, is coming across

00:41:29.000 --> 00:41:32.039
as there's corporate bigwigs that have gotten

00:41:32.039 --> 00:41:35.800
enough of a scent of this could totally screw

00:41:35.800 --> 00:41:39.599
us that we need to do something about it now.

00:41:40.539 --> 00:41:43.380
And let's create a boogeyman scenario so that

00:41:43.380 --> 00:41:47.780
way. people won't have access to something and

00:41:47.780 --> 00:41:49.659
we're still going to be dependent on these companies.

00:41:50.079 --> 00:41:54.159
I mean, come on. You watch enough YouTube videos.

00:41:54.219 --> 00:41:56.719
You see it all the time. Somebody's got a freaking

00:41:56.719 --> 00:41:59.719
time clock thing that needs repaired, but the

00:41:59.719 --> 00:42:01.900
company that repairs it said, hey, guess what?

00:42:02.059 --> 00:42:04.019
You're going to have to spend $100 on something

00:42:04.019 --> 00:42:07.059
because we don't make just the gear. We make

00:42:07.059 --> 00:42:10.579
this whole mechanism. Even though we could just

00:42:10.579 --> 00:42:13.119
give you the gear for like a buck. We're going

00:42:13.119 --> 00:42:14.539
to make you pay a hundred bucks for this one

00:42:14.539 --> 00:42:17.119
mechanism. So what's the guy do? He 3d prints

00:42:17.119 --> 00:42:19.639
it. He measures, you know, what was left of inside

00:42:19.639 --> 00:42:22.760
the machine 3d prints it. And guess what? For

00:42:22.760 --> 00:42:25.460
like a buck, he's got the new gear and gave the

00:42:25.460 --> 00:42:28.980
middle finger to that company. Yeah. So why not

00:42:28.980 --> 00:42:31.280
fricking try to figure out a way to make that,

00:42:31.300 --> 00:42:36.320
that kind of stuff illegal? Yeah. Do you think

00:42:36.320 --> 00:42:40.760
it's maybe something to do with. Either taxes

00:42:40.760 --> 00:42:45.099
or the ability to draw some sort of a profit

00:42:45.099 --> 00:42:49.539
off of the parts that are being 3D printed? Not

00:42:49.539 --> 00:42:51.480
necessarily, because if you make enough money,

00:42:51.539 --> 00:42:54.739
unless you're physically going to locations to

00:42:54.739 --> 00:42:58.440
pass money under the table, at some point, if

00:42:58.440 --> 00:43:01.340
you're doing business with a bank, you're going

00:43:01.340 --> 00:43:02.860
to have to account for where that money comes

00:43:02.860 --> 00:43:06.559
from. Even criminals with the IRS have to file

00:43:06.559 --> 00:43:10.019
taxes showing how much stuff they stole during

00:43:10.019 --> 00:43:13.780
the year. It is an IRS tax code. If you steal

00:43:13.780 --> 00:43:16.059
something, you're supposed to account for it.

00:43:16.119 --> 00:43:18.920
Isn't that usually what criminals get hit with

00:43:18.920 --> 00:43:21.880
is tax stuff when those warrants get served?

00:43:22.480 --> 00:43:25.639
Yeah, like tax evasion and stuff. Yeah. I have

00:43:25.639 --> 00:43:28.619
this feeling that's really what it's for. But

00:43:28.619 --> 00:43:32.159
if they actually took the time to do that. That

00:43:32.159 --> 00:43:34.300
would totally throw the government for a loop.

00:43:36.320 --> 00:43:39.039
It'd be hilarious. You know, I'm charging you

00:43:39.039 --> 00:43:40.579
for tax evasion. What are you talking about?

00:43:40.639 --> 00:43:44.340
I got my tax forms right here from last year.

00:43:44.460 --> 00:43:47.199
I totally put down, I stole that Toyota Celica.

00:43:47.739 --> 00:43:50.840
Nice. And I totally made a profit off of it.

00:43:50.880 --> 00:43:59.760
Here you go. Yeah, that's... I feel like if...

00:44:00.079 --> 00:44:02.579
if 3d printers had a way to show what they were

00:44:02.579 --> 00:44:05.079
making, which I, I don't want this to ever happen,

00:44:05.139 --> 00:44:10.380
that some of the stuff would kind of cool down

00:44:10.380 --> 00:44:16.099
as far as the legislation side, because I don't

00:44:16.099 --> 00:44:19.059
want any more eyes being put on what I'm doing

00:44:19.059 --> 00:44:23.179
in my own home. Right. I don't see it. They're,

00:44:23.179 --> 00:44:26.000
they're going to find ways to try to get their

00:44:26.000 --> 00:44:29.690
fingers in your house. Yeah. I mean, Again, you

00:44:29.690 --> 00:44:31.690
have... Well, they already tried to put their

00:44:31.690 --> 00:44:33.670
fingers in my back door and I screamed really

00:44:33.670 --> 00:44:37.230
loud when they did that. Was that the van in

00:44:37.230 --> 00:44:40.030
the white suit? It was. And he got donkey kicked.

00:44:41.090 --> 00:44:45.550
I bet he did. I'm trying to think what... I just

00:44:45.550 --> 00:44:49.949
saw a video from Colin Noir where he was talking

00:44:49.949 --> 00:44:53.309
about a state that was trying to pass a law to

00:44:53.309 --> 00:44:57.940
where... Basically, they wanted it to where you

00:44:57.940 --> 00:45:01.360
couldn't carry a 10 mag magazine, anything higher

00:45:01.360 --> 00:45:04.500
than that. They want it to where you have to

00:45:04.500 --> 00:45:07.820
get permission from the local PD to even have

00:45:07.820 --> 00:45:10.000
these weapons that you've already bought legally

00:45:10.000 --> 00:45:12.139
and got background checks for. And then they

00:45:12.139 --> 00:45:13.760
also want to be able to come in your home anytime

00:45:13.760 --> 00:45:16.780
they want to be able to inspect your weapons

00:45:16.780 --> 00:45:21.000
to make sure they're safe in a secure manner.

00:45:21.400 --> 00:45:24.650
I want to say Virginia. But I might be confusing

00:45:24.650 --> 00:45:26.889
that with all the other stuff that Virginia is

00:45:26.889 --> 00:45:30.590
doing lately. Which, let me segue real quick.

00:45:30.829 --> 00:45:36.050
How the hell did a foreign -born person get elected

00:45:36.050 --> 00:45:38.329
to a position to where they can now make laws

00:45:38.329 --> 00:45:42.409
to what Americans can do with firearms? Right.

00:45:42.849 --> 00:45:46.750
I'm not sure how that works. That shouldn't happen.

00:45:46.769 --> 00:45:50.630
I thought... No. Just the fact that somebody

00:45:50.630 --> 00:45:53.670
even suggesting that they should be doing that,

00:45:53.730 --> 00:45:55.969
they should be slapped and thrown out of their

00:45:55.969 --> 00:45:58.309
own government. Because that is, to me, that's

00:45:58.309 --> 00:46:01.889
against the Constitution. A, like you said, you're

00:46:01.889 --> 00:46:03.849
violating the Second Amendment. It is infringement.

00:46:03.869 --> 00:46:08.170
And then you're talking about, oh, and you can

00:46:08.170 --> 00:46:10.130
come in my house anytime you want? No, that's

00:46:10.130 --> 00:46:12.469
a violation of the Fourth Amendment. You're violating

00:46:12.469 --> 00:46:17.760
two amendments with one law. I'd tell our officer

00:46:17.760 --> 00:46:19.679
to shove it up his ass, and I'd be like, and

00:46:19.679 --> 00:46:23.340
if you arrest me, be prepared to lose your retirement,

00:46:23.639 --> 00:46:26.760
your income, your police department's income,

00:46:26.980 --> 00:46:29.320
and the town's income, because I'm going to take

00:46:29.320 --> 00:46:32.739
everything. I will not settle. I will take everything.

00:46:32.980 --> 00:46:38.420
This town will be renamed to Pipville. Yes. Yeah.

00:46:38.559 --> 00:46:48.469
It'll be North Gibbles. Yeah, it's... God. Yeah,

00:46:48.590 --> 00:46:53.010
but that's Japan. Oh, yeah. I saw that comment.

00:46:53.250 --> 00:46:56.329
Sorry. Other random Zoidberg thought, did you

00:46:56.329 --> 00:47:00.650
see High Point made an AR -15? It actually looks

00:47:00.650 --> 00:47:03.849
kind of cool. Yeah. The reviews on it are nice.

00:47:05.130 --> 00:47:09.429
Anyways. I just wish I had the bunnies. They're

00:47:09.429 --> 00:47:15.000
cheap. It's like sub $500. I have to eat. Groceries

00:47:15.000 --> 00:47:21.119
are, like, sub - $500 anymore for a week. Hot

00:47:21.119 --> 00:47:29.579
dogs and mac and cheese. All right, $100. I'm

00:47:29.579 --> 00:47:33.679
going to have to go on that new Second Amendment

00:47:33.679 --> 00:47:37.880
diet. Oh, God. What were you just use your second

00:47:37.880 --> 00:47:42.739
amendment privileges to obtain food? No fricking

00:47:42.739 --> 00:47:45.219
use my second amendment privileges by removing

00:47:45.219 --> 00:47:48.059
food from my life so I can afford my guns. Oh

00:47:48.059 --> 00:47:54.239
yeah. All right. So this is the last portion

00:47:54.239 --> 00:47:56.360
of the notes and it was a lot of theoretical

00:47:56.360 --> 00:48:03.460
stuff. So a national emergency. forces a blackout

00:48:03.460 --> 00:48:07.719
in your area for a minimum of 14 days so let's

00:48:07.719 --> 00:48:09.360
say that there's something going on they need

00:48:09.360 --> 00:48:12.880
to if you have like a fuel powered power plant

00:48:12.880 --> 00:48:17.800
in your area they need to redirect the fuel for

00:48:17.800 --> 00:48:20.519
like war effort type stuff for disaster recovery

00:48:20.519 --> 00:48:22.619
or something or there's just a major natural

00:48:22.619 --> 00:48:24.420
disaster and they shut off the power plant to

00:48:24.420 --> 00:48:27.539
prevent wildfires that's something that happens

00:48:27.539 --> 00:48:31.599
yeah so They announced there will be no government

00:48:31.599 --> 00:48:35.360
assistance during this time outside of 911 services,

00:48:35.760 --> 00:48:42.179
which will be severely delayed. What steps have

00:48:42.179 --> 00:48:44.880
you already taken as far as everything we've

00:48:44.880 --> 00:48:47.960
already talked about tonight to ensure that you're

00:48:47.960 --> 00:48:52.039
getting through that situation? Well, I bring

00:48:52.039 --> 00:48:56.139
out all my ammo. Bring out all my guns, set myself

00:48:56.139 --> 00:48:59.139
up, and wait for the dumbasses to show up to

00:48:59.139 --> 00:49:02.639
my front door. They're going to resupply you

00:49:02.639 --> 00:49:04.539
right at your door. They are the new Amazon.

00:49:05.400 --> 00:49:09.099
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Anybody shows up at my house

00:49:09.099 --> 00:49:11.800
in their cars and stuff, I'm going to have gas.

00:49:12.320 --> 00:49:15.199
I'm going to have metal resources. If they have

00:49:15.199 --> 00:49:17.420
food in those vehicles or water, I don't have

00:49:17.420 --> 00:49:19.340
to use my water out of the ground. I'll just

00:49:19.340 --> 00:49:22.980
use what they got. That's all that'll be. Oh,

00:49:23.000 --> 00:49:27.619
yeah. It was something that came up when I was

00:49:27.619 --> 00:49:31.099
doing some of the research, and it was just like,

00:49:31.139 --> 00:49:35.539
there again, you've got the people who can manage

00:49:35.539 --> 00:49:37.900
repairs, who already have tools and supplies

00:49:37.900 --> 00:49:41.219
on hand, who don't reply on just -in -time delivery,

00:49:41.519 --> 00:49:43.800
who already have the knowledge and don't have

00:49:43.800 --> 00:49:48.719
to rely on YouTube and whatnot. So these are

00:49:48.719 --> 00:49:50.380
the people who are going to become their own

00:49:50.380 --> 00:49:54.360
miniature commercial hubs. For their, their neighborhoods,

00:49:54.440 --> 00:49:56.460
possibly their cities, their towns or whatever.

00:49:56.739 --> 00:49:58.980
And there's going to be a bunch of little hubs

00:49:58.980 --> 00:50:01.539
all spread out because these are going to be

00:50:01.539 --> 00:50:05.579
the new centers of commerce. Yeah. For that duration.

00:50:06.480 --> 00:50:08.840
It'll just be like it was before. Yeah. You'll

00:50:08.840 --> 00:50:11.420
have your blacksmiths, you'll have, you know,

00:50:11.420 --> 00:50:13.780
people that know how to do certain things. And

00:50:13.780 --> 00:50:15.800
those are where everybody will congregate because

00:50:15.800 --> 00:50:17.980
when they need something taken care of. Yeah.

00:50:18.039 --> 00:50:21.179
It's right there. Now. In two weeks, there may

00:50:21.179 --> 00:50:25.199
not be a ton of activity. But if it goes... We

00:50:25.199 --> 00:50:27.300
all saw what happened the last time the government

00:50:27.300 --> 00:50:30.840
said, we're just going to do two weeks. That

00:50:30.840 --> 00:50:33.960
was a very long two weeks. It lasted for, what,

00:50:34.039 --> 00:50:41.139
36 months? Yeah. But we still had power. We did.

00:50:41.260 --> 00:50:43.860
We saw electricity and we saw the internet. I

00:50:43.860 --> 00:50:46.300
think the U .S. would look very different if

00:50:46.300 --> 00:50:49.139
we did not have power during that time. well

00:50:49.139 --> 00:50:52.300
there was a study i it was a long time ago i

00:50:52.300 --> 00:50:55.059
saw it where they talked about what would happen

00:50:55.059 --> 00:50:58.079
it was after the new york blackouts where like

00:50:58.079 --> 00:51:01.159
a good portion of the area went dark for like

00:51:01.159 --> 00:51:04.320
a few days and they were talking like i think

00:51:04.320 --> 00:51:07.360
it was like maybe two weeks tops where if there

00:51:07.360 --> 00:51:10.500
was no electricity it would be absolute mayhem

00:51:10.500 --> 00:51:15.340
within a few days yeah yeah but that's what i'm

00:51:15.340 --> 00:51:18.110
saying like two weeks tops yeah like people would

00:51:18.110 --> 00:51:20.070
lose their absolute minds after you know just

00:51:20.070 --> 00:51:23.670
a few days to a couple weeks yep and you wouldn't

00:51:23.670 --> 00:51:25.449
be able to get control of it immediately until

00:51:25.449 --> 00:51:27.730
you got the power back on even then god only

00:51:27.730 --> 00:51:32.130
knows what happens yeah your bigger cities quickly

00:51:32.130 --> 00:51:36.769
resort to gang violence gang control overlords

00:51:36.769 --> 00:51:40.289
yeah and just go play the division that's that's

00:51:40.289 --> 00:51:43.130
exactly what happens well and it's and it's because

00:51:43.130 --> 00:51:47.030
of the just in time mentality for the economy

00:51:47.030 --> 00:51:50.710
yeah you don't have power well you can't go buy

00:51:50.710 --> 00:51:53.769
food because all your money is now digital yep

00:51:53.769 --> 00:51:57.150
and nobody has paper money really anymore i have

00:51:57.150 --> 00:52:01.530
a little but even i'm guilty of it yeah but nobody

00:52:01.530 --> 00:52:05.789
has you know natural resources to trade so in

00:52:05.789 --> 00:52:08.369
the city where there's a lot of them where you

00:52:08.369 --> 00:52:10.750
almost might say it's a food desert you'd have

00:52:10.750 --> 00:52:14.730
the city having to mass exodus To find places

00:52:14.730 --> 00:52:17.409
to get food and resources and everything. And

00:52:17.409 --> 00:52:19.010
people out in the country ain't going to have

00:52:19.010 --> 00:52:22.429
it. Or the people that do. They're not going

00:52:22.429 --> 00:52:24.289
to give it up. At least not willingly. Well,

00:52:24.309 --> 00:52:26.949
that's what I meant by that. Not having it. They're

00:52:26.949 --> 00:52:29.250
just not going to put up with that type of shit.

00:52:29.369 --> 00:52:30.510
They're just going to be like, well, it sucks

00:52:30.510 --> 00:52:34.070
to be you. Yeah. And ammo is going to be flying.

00:52:34.590 --> 00:52:43.489
Oh, yeah. Quickly. So. The. The hands -on gap

00:52:43.489 --> 00:52:47.630
is kind of the ultimate tool of control. If you

00:52:47.630 --> 00:52:50.010
can't fix your world, you can't rebel against

00:52:50.010 --> 00:52:53.690
it. You're kind of tethered to the system for

00:52:53.690 --> 00:52:57.389
your very survival. Maybe it's by design. Maybe

00:52:57.389 --> 00:52:59.210
it's just the natural path of progression and

00:52:59.210 --> 00:53:03.309
abundance. Many people still take great satisfaction

00:53:03.309 --> 00:53:06.289
in being able to repair what they own or just

00:53:06.289 --> 00:53:08.150
in earning side income, repairing things for

00:53:08.150 --> 00:53:12.639
others. We have advocated many times on this

00:53:12.639 --> 00:53:14.599
show and will probably continue to do so for

00:53:14.599 --> 00:53:17.500
the entire duration of this show. Learn your

00:53:17.500 --> 00:53:20.340
craft, acquire resources of knowledge and tools,

00:53:20.480 --> 00:53:23.960
and invest in yourself for the long term. Knowledge

00:53:23.960 --> 00:53:27.360
is power. It's really one of the best sayings

00:53:27.360 --> 00:53:30.360
out there. If you don't have to rely on others,

00:53:30.539 --> 00:53:34.960
you can do literally everything you need. Yeah.

00:53:36.800 --> 00:53:39.880
Taking the time to learn how to grow a few crops.

00:53:40.460 --> 00:53:42.300
Take the time to learn how to repair something

00:53:42.300 --> 00:53:45.440
that you figured you're absolutely going to need.

00:53:45.519 --> 00:53:48.500
And no, not your cell phone. Take the time to

00:53:48.500 --> 00:53:53.659
learn how a pump works. Or figure out, gee, when

00:53:53.659 --> 00:53:56.099
I'm taking water and I'm running through a system,

00:53:56.139 --> 00:53:58.900
how could you make that work where you're trying

00:53:58.900 --> 00:54:01.059
to make water travel up without electricity,

00:54:01.440 --> 00:54:04.820
without any mechanical means? There's ways to

00:54:04.820 --> 00:54:07.280
do it. Yeah. How would you make pressure for

00:54:07.280 --> 00:54:09.500
something? There's actually ways to do it without

00:54:09.500 --> 00:54:12.840
any mechanical hardware, just tubes. Yep. And

00:54:12.840 --> 00:54:15.039
you can create a pressurized system for water.

00:54:15.219 --> 00:54:17.980
Yep. So the fact that you can do that shows that,

00:54:18.000 --> 00:54:19.800
you know, if people take the time to learn, you

00:54:19.800 --> 00:54:23.960
can do anything. And there are some very good

00:54:23.960 --> 00:54:29.119
resources out there. There are many books that

00:54:29.119 --> 00:54:31.519
are dedicated to showing people how to survive

00:54:31.519 --> 00:54:35.079
in situations without some of those resources

00:54:35.079 --> 00:54:37.380
like power and electric electricity, the internet.

00:54:38.199 --> 00:54:40.820
Yeah. So they're not very expensive. They're

00:54:40.820 --> 00:54:43.780
worth having around. If nothing else, just for

00:54:43.780 --> 00:54:47.039
the fact of learning things for yourself. I,

00:54:47.139 --> 00:54:50.360
I like learning new shit just for the sake of

00:54:50.360 --> 00:54:53.440
learning it. But that's just the kind of tism

00:54:53.440 --> 00:55:00.500
I have. So. That and expensive cardboard. So

00:55:00.500 --> 00:55:04.320
to kind of close everything out, you know, everything

00:55:04.320 --> 00:55:07.159
is fine today. The lights are on, the water's

00:55:07.159 --> 00:55:09.820
running, but that's only because the system still

00:55:09.820 --> 00:55:13.079
works. The day may come where our precious Amazon

00:55:13.079 --> 00:55:16.300
packages stop showing up and a trip to the hardware

00:55:16.300 --> 00:55:20.760
store is no longer even an option. Those are

00:55:20.760 --> 00:55:23.119
the days that we never want to see, but we have

00:55:23.119 --> 00:55:25.539
to keep it at the back of our mind that, yeah,

00:55:25.739 --> 00:55:34.119
it really could happen. So. Yeah, unfortunately.

00:55:35.380 --> 00:55:41.539
Yeah. People have managed to get by through life

00:55:41.539 --> 00:55:45.420
without a lot of our modern conveniences for

00:55:45.420 --> 00:55:48.099
a very long time. It's only been in the last.

00:55:50.579 --> 00:55:53.340
70 plus years, what we'll call a hundred years

00:55:53.340 --> 00:55:57.880
that we've had a lot of the really modern technology

00:55:57.880 --> 00:56:02.380
that we take for granted. And humanity has been

00:56:02.380 --> 00:56:05.460
around for a lot longer than that. So it can

00:56:05.460 --> 00:56:08.539
be done. No, it's not glorious. No, it's not

00:56:08.539 --> 00:56:12.739
convenient, but we can survive if we have to.

00:56:16.579 --> 00:56:21.539
So take that into consideration. Do some learning

00:56:21.539 --> 00:56:25.980
for yourself, for others, for your family. Or

00:56:25.980 --> 00:56:28.780
don't. Or don't. And just be a statistic at a

00:56:28.780 --> 00:56:30.940
body on the ground in a resupply position for

00:56:30.940 --> 00:56:35.840
somebody else. That's right. I could always use

00:56:35.840 --> 00:56:41.699
some more fat for my soap. Hell yeah. Just like

00:56:41.699 --> 00:56:43.880
on, oh God, what was that movie? Fight Club.

00:56:45.019 --> 00:56:51.329
Yeah. Making the soap. Going to the liposuction

00:56:51.329 --> 00:56:55.869
clinic. Get some soap. Yep. You render the fat,

00:56:55.969 --> 00:56:57.530
and then you can also make high -grade explosives.

00:56:58.070 --> 00:57:03.969
Yeah. Just don't drink it. They lipo that fat

00:57:03.969 --> 00:57:06.150
out of Marlon Brando's ass. Don't suck on that

00:57:06.150 --> 00:57:14.309
stuff. Ew. Ew. Oh, yeah. Candles. Obscure movie

00:57:14.309 --> 00:57:24.139
reference. That's my ass day. Anyways. No, no,

00:57:24.159 --> 00:57:29.880
no, no. Oh, no. No, no. Marlon Brando no here.

00:57:31.699 --> 00:57:33.599
So, I think that's going to do it for us tonight.

00:57:34.079 --> 00:57:37.599
I hope you guys enjoyed the show. If you have

00:57:37.599 --> 00:57:39.420
any questions, comments, concerns, feedback,

00:57:39.579 --> 00:57:42.940
you want to tell us to stop doing the show, just

00:57:42.940 --> 00:57:47.329
hop on our Discord. Share it with us. Get on

00:57:47.329 --> 00:57:49.070
the social. Tell us that you hate us. Tell us

00:57:49.070 --> 00:57:52.349
you love us. I don't know. I could use some love.

00:57:52.969 --> 00:58:00.349
Yes. We would love to hear from the listeners.

00:58:02.289 --> 00:58:05.349
Some show topics. We would love to hear if you

00:58:05.349 --> 00:58:09.699
guys have any thoughts on show topics. We're

00:58:09.699 --> 00:58:11.440
quickly burning through the topic list that we

00:58:11.440 --> 00:58:13.019
had. We have a live show coming up at the end

00:58:13.019 --> 00:58:15.460
of the summer, so we're trying to keep that one

00:58:15.460 --> 00:58:20.079
on the books, but life keeps lifing, and we're

00:58:20.079 --> 00:58:24.340
coming up on some decisions to make on some other

00:58:24.340 --> 00:58:27.480
shit. And we're really not trying to get a lifetime

00:58:27.480 --> 00:58:30.699
supply of mail to make things work. You know,

00:58:31.099 --> 00:58:37.730
we might have to go down that route. We could

00:58:37.730 --> 00:58:41.909
stream on Twitch and, you know, do the thing.

00:58:42.030 --> 00:58:45.090
Well, if we do that, maybe we can get a sponsorship

00:58:45.090 --> 00:58:49.929
from Miracle Whip or something. Hellmans. Hellmans.

00:58:52.329 --> 00:58:53.730
Oh, as long as it's not great. Tell them we're

00:58:53.730 --> 00:58:58.809
going to make a. It'll be curdling before you

00:58:58.809 --> 00:59:03.550
get a chance to do anything. Just tell the sponsors

00:59:03.550 --> 00:59:07.550
we're making a very chunky salad. Oh, it's so

00:59:07.550 --> 00:59:18.329
chunky. Oh, God, no. Oh, all right, folks. After

00:59:18.329 --> 00:59:21.929
our shit. Yeah. With that, we'll go ahead and

00:59:21.929 --> 00:59:25.389
wrap it up. So thanks again for listening. We

00:59:25.389 --> 00:59:28.469
love you all. And we'll see you all next time.
