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I. For immature audiences only. Welcome to the

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Now We Can Zoom podcast, everybody. I'm your

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host, Pip. Tonight here, as always, are my co

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-hosts, Gibbs and Gibbles. Hello. Hi. So, I think

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I might have accidentally joined a cult last

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weekend. Started off with some free snacks because

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I'm a fat kid and who can resist that? But it

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ended up with me chanting in a basement about

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cryptocurrency. They said that I would achieve

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enlightenment. But all I achieved was a headache,

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a sore wiener, and a weird tattoo of a Bitcoin

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on my ankle. You're just looking at me, Gibbs,

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and you question my judgment. Yes. There's no

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way around this one. That solid three seconds

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of silence, that was earned, and we're going

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to leave it there. I'm not changing that. Nope.

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All right. Well, everyone, welcome to the show

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tonight. I wanted to preface this episode with

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a little something. The notes for this episode

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were started a little prior to all the events

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kicking off in Iran. Since then, as I'm sure

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most of you have seen, the world is once again

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on the brink of conflict. As such, echoes of

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safety. And protection are once again starting

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to sound throughout the halls of Congress. Personally,

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I think it's a very scary callback to the time

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after 9 -11. Some of you listening may or may

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not be able to or maybe not old enough to remember

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those days. But back then, they started kind

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of ringing the war bell and demanding things

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that no American had ever dreamed that we would

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ever hear of. Yeah. Now. Was it a full -on Orwellian

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1984 -level surveillance program? No. But it

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was probably the closest thing that we as Americans

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had ever seen. And it was all done in the name

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of safety and national defense. And I am, of

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course, referencing the Patriot Act. Because

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that bit of legislation served as the foundational

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piece for many... I'm just going to say it, atrocities

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against public privacy. And we're hoping that

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nothing like that will ever see the light of

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day again in this country. But we've talked about

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things similar to that on the show before, and

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we don't know the true full extent to which the

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Privacy Act actually went or if any parts of

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it were ever actually ended. Because again, the

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good old government is never going to be fully

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honest with us. Well, when you have a court system

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that you're not even allowed to even know about

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what goes on behind closed doors, you're never

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going to. Yeah, you're dead on. So with all that

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going on, it was kind of an interesting pickup

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with tonight's topic, the end of privacy. uh

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again we had this kind of on the burner ready

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to cook uh two weeks ago and then like i said

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everything started kicking off with iran and

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then there was a i don't know if you guys even

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saw there was a foiled terror attack uh just

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yesterday uh some ass clowns decided to start

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lobbing devices uh that did not thankfully go

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off um it's it's all just starting to sound kind

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of familiar So I thought it was prudent to kind

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of bring up a little bit of the past, a little

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bit of a history lesson. Also, as we are coming

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up on the, this hurts to say, 25th anniversary

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of 9 -11 this year. It makes me feel so old.

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My entire childhood and part of my young adult

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life has already passed by twice. Yeah. Almost.

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Almost twice. Yeah. Yeah, that hurts right in

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the lower back pain. Right in my popping knees.

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But as far as we're concerned with privacy and

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tonight's topic, some things that I wanted to

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point out before we kind of get into the meat

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and taters of all this. There are over 5 ,000

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daily data points. That are taken into account

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per person. Just in this country. There are brain

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computer interfaces that we've talked about before.

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Things like Neuralink and all that associated

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tech. You have brain cells now that can play

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Doom. Dude, I just saw that before we got on

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here tonight. Petri dish brains are playing Doom.

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That's fucking awesome. It's terrifying. But

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it's awesome. That's a little more terrifying.

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That's some Skynet shit right there. It is. For

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anybody that has an organ donor on their driver's

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license, I am so sorry because you might be somebody

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that's forced to play Doom forever. I might update

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the driver's license. God forbid if you're the

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one that is forced to play The Sims forever.

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Oh no. Oh. Good God for dark humor. We'll, we'll

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take on a whole new meaning at that point. Yeah.

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But, uh, yeah, the, the brain computer interface

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BCI market has surged to as much as $21 billion

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already, uh, as more and more implants and non

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-invasive device are beginning to devices are

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starting to go more mainstream. Um, there's a

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lot of, uh, capitalism and government involvement

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in people's brains that's starting to kind of

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get involved in that. And some talk has started

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to pop up online about the possibility of crosstalk

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in BCIs. So can you imagine if a room full of

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people had things like Neuralink and there was

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some kind of a software glitch and all of a sudden

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everybody with a Neuralink could cross communicate?

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whether it was willful or not. That sounds like

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some Johnny mnemonic crap. Let that sink in for

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just a second, because there are a lot of companies

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that are starting to push for adoption of BCIs.

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So basically, if you come to work for them, they're

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going to cover the cost of all procedures to

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get a BCI. And then while you work for them,

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you have this thing. Somebody just made that

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illegal, though. I'm trying to remember who it

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was. But they already said you cannot force an

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employee to do that. No, no, no. It wouldn't

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be forced. It would be mandated as part of the

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job. Right, but they said that you can't do that

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either. Well, this job requires the implant.

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This job does not. I'm sure someone's corporate

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lawyer will find a way to shark the road out

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of it. I'm sure. I think we already saw in America

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you can clearly mandate people to get a medical

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procedure even if you don't agree with it. Uh

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-huh. In America, we're not safe from this kind

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of stuff. Jabby jab. So with all of that going

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on, there are a lot of corporate entities that

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are pushing for mass adoption. Quite frankly,

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I honestly think that might scare me just a little

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bit more than the AI stuff. Because that's a

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direct hot link. Sorry. That's a direct hot link

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into your brain. And that opens up brain hacking.

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That opens up AI intrusion into your brain. That's

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a whole lot of shit that just kind of... gets

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the door kicked right into your head. Hmm. So.

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Well, I definitely know the way Grok talks to

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me on a daily basis. I wouldn't want it in my

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head. I'd be scared. Yeah. The fact that Grok

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knows so much about me that I have not told it.

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I know we were kind of talking about this before

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the show, but I've not told it hardly anything

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about me. And it knows everything. Oh, yeah,

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but there's also a bunch of metadata that your

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phone scrapes from you every day. So, I mean,

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there's no hiding it. Mm -hmm. Yeah, it's terrifying.

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And we're just kind of getting used to it and

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learning how to adapt to it, you know? But, yeah,

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speaking of your device kind of scraping all

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the data, that's kind of how... Privacy is vanishing

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one click at a time every day. Apps and devices

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are harvesting our data. There's smart eavesdropping.

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We have facial recognition. License plate readers

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are popping up literally like STDs at a retirement

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home. Your phone knows your secrets better than

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your friends do. Whether that's a convenience

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or if that's creepy, that's kind of up to you

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to decide. what weirds me out. And I know we've

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said this on the show before, when you have like

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some of the most random off the wall thoughts

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and you go to look it up and your phone knows

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what you want to look up within two letters,

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like gives when looking up porn and depression,

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it's insane. I got my attention. That is still

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one of the most baffling things that's ever happened

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in my life. Like, sometimes I lay awake at night

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going, like, who? Because it wasn't me. Oh, that

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was a glorious night. So, something else to keep

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in mind is that when we get into the whole ethics

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of data mining, it's going to hit People of less

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means. The poor, essentially. It's going to hit

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them the hardest. And the more vulnerable type

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of people. The desperate in our population. Because

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data harvesting, and I'm going to touch on this

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a little bit later, would theoretically be a

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money -making point for those desperate. And

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I'll talk about that a little bit. More in depth

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later on. We have surveillance capitalism, which

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is apparently a thing. And government overreach.

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No, that's never happened. What? No. They're

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here to help. Yeah, they're our friends. I almost

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said that with a straight face. We have tech

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lords. that are profiling behaviors look at it

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as data just like oil. There's government cameras

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and smart cities. We've talked about smart cities

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here before. Privacy budgets are getting cut

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amid the risks to kids' data. And Gibbles, you

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and I have kids, and I think you can kind of

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back me up on this. I personally do not feel...

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Kids should have any data collected on them until

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they're 18. Right. They should not. Yeah. Maybe

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like some general usage stats, maybe for like

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devices that they're on, but absolutely zero

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personal data at all. We all seen how easy that

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data can get stolen or manipulated in some fashion.

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Yeah. Not even Discord is free of that. Uh -huh.

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Speaking of Discord, I know we all use Discord,

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and their third -party verification service,

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thankfully, got hacked just a few days before

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they tried to make their forced verification

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stuff go online. That is glorious. None of us

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wanted that shit. Excuse me. So, safety surveillance.

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Do you guys think that's anything good, or is

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it control creep? Gibbs? It will never, ever,

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ever be good. There's no form of surveillance

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that is ever to your benefit. You never control

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any of it. There's not a single point, either

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where the cameras are, or where the microphones

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are, or where the data is stored, when it's captured,

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how it's captured, where it's disseminated to,

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who's allowed to have it. You effectively have

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zero control over any of that information. So

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it will never, ever, ever be to your benefit.

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And unfortunately, we have no laws about you

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having the rights to your own data information

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or your online persona or online activities.

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So until something like that changes, it is always

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bad every single time. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I want

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your take on that, too, because as a former cop,

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I'm sure you. have some maybe unique perspective

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on that. Did you have to wear body cams or were

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those gone or not out before you got out of it?

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Oh no, I had to wear, it was towards the end

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of my time on, but I was very happy to have them.

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So yeah, with those, you know, it's like what,

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you know, give said, you know, you have no control

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of their data, but at the same time, It works

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for the police when it's used properly because

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you have individuals who like to lie on police

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or lie about something or make things up. And

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then later it's like, okay, well, you said this.

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And they go, no, I didn't. And you go, stand

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by with the replay. Oh, you said the officer

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stomped a mud hole in your butt. Yes, he did.

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Stand by. Let me pull up the body cam footage

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of the officer. So him standing there talking

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to you and you got pissed and walked away means

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he stomped a mud hole in you, right? Okay. Stuff

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like that happens every day. And that video is

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like priceless. Oh, I'm sure. Yeah, there's probably

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a ton of suits that got settled because of that.

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Thank you. What I was going to say is before

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the proliferation of AI. Surveillance in those

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situations was good. However, now with how good

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AI is, unfortunately, if there is any sort of

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surveillance camera, I can make it look like

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anything happened. If you give me even one frame

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of that, even one bit of information, I can extrapolate

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accordingly. So now, unfortunately, we are entering

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a world to where, I hate to say it, but anything

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can be faked. Anything can be changed. It doesn't

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matter the level of security. It doesn't matter

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the level of encryption or anything else. If

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the video gets out anywhere, It can be manipulated

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or changed. So that's something people need to

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understand is unless it's a 100 % closed system,

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unless it's only ever seen by certain people

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and not accessible on the internet, there's no

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security system that is safe. Do you think that's

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necessarily true? What? Do you think that's necessarily

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true even if it's a closed system? Just with

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the proliferation of AI? Well, it's at least

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in a closed system, you'd be able to have a reference.

00:17:13.970 --> 00:17:15.990
So at least if anything came out, like if somebody

00:17:15.990 --> 00:17:17.789
tried to spoof something happening or tried to

00:17:17.789 --> 00:17:19.990
make an act claim, you could say, hey, you know,

00:17:19.990 --> 00:17:22.150
we confirm with authorities eyeballs only that

00:17:22.150 --> 00:17:24.750
like that is not where the camera position is.

00:17:24.809 --> 00:17:26.829
That's not the kind of recording software. So

00:17:26.829 --> 00:17:30.210
there is a way where you might be able to in

00:17:30.210 --> 00:17:33.230
a court of law prove that it's not. But that's

00:17:33.230 --> 00:17:34.970
going to be the problem is, unfortunately, even

00:17:34.970 --> 00:17:36.170
if it's a closed system, you're still going to

00:17:36.170 --> 00:17:39.859
have to go. to the lawyer to to a judge to figure

00:17:39.859 --> 00:17:41.299
that out but in terms of the court of public

00:17:41.299 --> 00:17:45.380
opinion posting up on youtube or online you know

00:17:45.380 --> 00:17:53.099
good luck yeah yeah uh short of literally having

00:17:53.099 --> 00:17:57.759
all videos immediately burned to physical media

00:17:57.759 --> 00:18:03.099
that's unalterable i i don't know that you're

00:18:03.099 --> 00:18:04.829
going to get around stuff like that I hate to

00:18:04.829 --> 00:18:07.269
say it. That's why my, uh, my phone camera, sorry,

00:18:07.349 --> 00:18:09.690
my, uh, my house camera set up. It's completely

00:18:09.690 --> 00:18:15.329
closed loop. Yeah. Not that it's good luck. Cause

00:18:15.329 --> 00:18:17.730
I'm sure there's ways to get around it, but it

00:18:17.730 --> 00:18:20.289
would be so annoying to get around it that it's

00:18:20.289 --> 00:18:24.250
not worth it. Yeah. Oh no. Somebody might want

00:18:24.250 --> 00:18:26.210
to try to get in there and get your boxer briefs.

00:18:28.589 --> 00:18:34.359
Uh, ew. I don't know. If you really want them,

00:18:34.380 --> 00:18:36.220
I mean, I'll start an auction. I'll start at

00:18:36.220 --> 00:18:37.700
five bucks. I don't know. Got to raise money

00:18:37.700 --> 00:18:41.440
somehow. Right. Hey, that's one way for us to

00:18:41.440 --> 00:18:45.480
raise some money for the show. I mean, women

00:18:45.480 --> 00:18:47.339
sell their used stuff all the time. Why can't

00:18:47.339 --> 00:18:52.900
we? Right. I'm not even going to dignify that

00:18:52.900 --> 00:18:55.059
one with a proper response. I think we know.

00:18:56.180 --> 00:18:59.779
I got no shame to my game. I need 20 bucks. What

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I'm concerned about is the people that would

00:19:01.500 --> 00:19:03.119
buy it would then show up to the meetup and we'd

00:19:03.119 --> 00:19:05.339
be really fucking uncomfortable. That's the problem.

00:19:06.099 --> 00:19:11.440
Hi, guys. I'm your biggest fan. No, I don't need

00:19:11.440 --> 00:19:13.420
that. Can you sign this for me? No, what's even

00:19:13.420 --> 00:19:16.980
more worrisome than that is the perfectly normal

00:19:16.980 --> 00:19:20.599
individual that shows up. He's squeaky clean,

00:19:20.759 --> 00:19:23.599
looks like your everyday Joe takes it and immediately

00:19:23.599 --> 00:19:28.140
walks by going... Yep. Your round bob normal

00:19:28.140 --> 00:19:32.950
pants. Yeah. No. That would be more disturbing.

00:19:33.670 --> 00:19:35.410
Gets it out of the bag and just gives it that.

00:19:37.369 --> 00:19:41.410
That to me would be more disturbing than just

00:19:41.410 --> 00:19:43.349
seeing the psychopath walking out with the blue

00:19:43.349 --> 00:19:47.430
hair. Yeah. Oh yeah. Because at least I'm expecting

00:19:47.430 --> 00:19:50.470
it. It's the clean cut guy that you would never

00:19:50.470 --> 00:19:52.589
think in a million years would do anything. And

00:19:52.589 --> 00:19:54.009
they pull some shit like that and you're just

00:19:54.009 --> 00:20:00.440
like brain fart. Someone hands you $100 at the

00:20:00.440 --> 00:20:02.700
live show and says, give me your boxers now.

00:20:03.039 --> 00:20:06.839
Do you do it? Hell yeah. I'll start a bidding

00:20:06.839 --> 00:20:09.559
war for that. Hell yeah, I'll do it for $100.

00:20:10.299 --> 00:20:12.700
Okay. Now, if someone does that and they have

00:20:12.700 --> 00:20:16.740
the mic. You're setting this up. I don't like

00:20:16.740 --> 00:20:21.759
this. They take a nice big whiff and then they

00:20:21.759 --> 00:20:24.460
yell out. You got yourself a nice little man

00:20:24.460 --> 00:20:28.200
pussy, don't you? I might have to rethink that

00:20:28.200 --> 00:20:33.380
situation. Nope, nope, nope. That's what I respond

00:20:33.380 --> 00:20:35.180
with. Sir, are you aware we're in a constitutional

00:20:35.180 --> 00:20:38.579
carry state? Choose your next words wisely. That's

00:20:38.579 --> 00:20:41.539
right. We are the land to fuck around and find

00:20:41.539 --> 00:20:45.119
out. So let's not do that. And Ohioans like to

00:20:45.119 --> 00:20:52.740
find out. Oh. So since the live show will be

00:20:52.740 --> 00:20:56.299
in a barcade, we can't carry in there. However,

00:20:56.460 --> 00:20:59.019
we will still be able to be armed with that thing.

00:21:00.099 --> 00:21:03.380
If you guys remember the reference, twisted tea.

00:21:05.099 --> 00:21:08.940
Oh, God. Oh, God. You're trying to kill a man.

00:21:09.519 --> 00:21:14.180
Officer, this is my medicinal assault tea. The

00:21:14.180 --> 00:21:16.400
officer, if he's worth his salt, is going, oh,

00:21:16.420 --> 00:21:18.619
my God, you better have a fucking license for

00:21:18.619 --> 00:21:22.049
that. Hey, it's not illegal. To suction cup a

00:21:22.049 --> 00:21:24.609
four foot long dildo to it and then use it like

00:21:24.609 --> 00:21:27.630
fling it Like the german like sticky grenade

00:21:27.630 --> 00:21:29.369
thing like you just kind of get a get nice little

00:21:29.369 --> 00:21:34.650
I could I would pay to see a video like that

00:21:34.650 --> 00:21:39.609
just to hear the dink Dude wait, but instead

00:21:39.609 --> 00:21:41.650
of doing dart throwing can we do like dildo throwing

00:21:41.650 --> 00:21:44.809
and make like a fucking target? Is that allowed?

00:21:46.559 --> 00:21:48.599
Is that not allowed? I don't know if that's allowed

00:21:48.599 --> 00:21:51.359
or not at that bar. I will try to get clearance

00:21:51.359 --> 00:21:53.759
if you really want. No, no, don't. I'm joking.

00:21:54.200 --> 00:21:57.680
I'm sure he'll go for it. It would have to be

00:21:57.680 --> 00:21:59.160
one of those nights where there's like no children

00:21:59.160 --> 00:22:03.019
allowed. Well, it's a barcade. After like seven

00:22:03.019 --> 00:22:07.619
or six, they kick the kids out anyways. God,

00:22:07.619 --> 00:22:11.160
that'd be the... Oh my God. But yeah, if you

00:22:11.160 --> 00:22:13.539
haven't seen the video of the guy getting his

00:22:13.539 --> 00:22:16.680
face smashed in with a twisted T. at a gas station.

00:22:16.839 --> 00:22:21.539
That happened in Ohio. So, Ohio's home of that

00:22:21.539 --> 00:22:28.900
thing. The Twisted T. So, we can have those with

00:22:28.900 --> 00:22:36.640
us. Now, getting back on topic. We have talked

00:22:36.640 --> 00:22:42.740
a lot about Neuralink on this channel. So, talking

00:22:42.740 --> 00:22:45.690
about Neuralink and the brain frontier. and how

00:22:45.690 --> 00:22:50.849
our very thoughts could be under siege. As of

00:22:50.849 --> 00:22:57.009
2026, this does not count as a siege. There are

00:22:57.009 --> 00:23:01.269
21 functioning Neuralink implants right now.

00:23:02.789 --> 00:23:10.250
Should we be worried about that? 21? No. However,

00:23:10.430 --> 00:23:16.670
if you scale that up to the thousands, that corporate

00:23:16.670 --> 00:23:22.109
America wants, private workforce, all kinds of

00:23:22.109 --> 00:23:26.809
government sector. Automated surgery can make

00:23:26.809 --> 00:23:30.450
it a very fast and painless procedure. All they

00:23:30.450 --> 00:23:38.250
see in my brain is... Well, Empire of the Sun,

00:23:38.430 --> 00:23:41.930
Eclipse Broadcast, that's the name of the band

00:23:41.930 --> 00:23:46.619
and the song. There is a good segment of that

00:23:46.619 --> 00:23:48.819
that is literally just the loading screen of

00:23:48.819 --> 00:23:52.400
my brain. The guy's dancing around in the costume

00:23:52.400 --> 00:23:54.779
with the shit kind of pumping in the background.

00:23:55.019 --> 00:24:02.339
That's like my loading screen. But yeah, mass

00:24:02.339 --> 00:24:05.960
forced adoption is becoming a debatable thing

00:24:05.960 --> 00:24:10.740
in corporate America, in Congress, all over the

00:24:10.740 --> 00:24:16.470
country. Private thought loss through BCI taps

00:24:16.470 --> 00:24:19.589
and even into the subconscious and emotional

00:24:19.589 --> 00:24:23.549
level of the brain. There is potential for it

00:24:23.549 --> 00:24:29.470
to be a commoditized asset of the mind. We've

00:24:29.470 --> 00:24:32.710
talked about how they're using AI to scan brains

00:24:32.710 --> 00:24:41.250
for dream reporting and analysis. There's information

00:24:41.250 --> 00:24:47.440
transmission. be unconscious. They had the two

00:24:47.440 --> 00:24:51.259
subjects transmit data while they were asleep

00:24:51.259 --> 00:24:55.000
in two different rooms. Imagine what you can

00:24:55.000 --> 00:24:59.579
do with people if they had neural links and they

00:24:59.579 --> 00:25:04.960
got that to work. I mean, it could be a whole

00:25:04.960 --> 00:25:08.799
new type of crypto. It could be a whole new type

00:25:08.799 --> 00:25:15.559
of spying, all kinds of stuff. So brain hacking

00:25:15.559 --> 00:25:18.380
is something else. And yes, we've mentioned brain

00:25:18.380 --> 00:25:20.779
hacking a few times on the show before, but when

00:25:20.779 --> 00:25:24.440
you combine it with the Neuralink implant, I

00:25:24.440 --> 00:25:27.240
think brain hacking kind of goes to a whole new

00:25:27.240 --> 00:25:29.579
level because you've got individuals who have

00:25:29.579 --> 00:25:33.640
key access to a lot of critical systems. If they

00:25:33.640 --> 00:25:35.819
were mandated to get these implants and their

00:25:35.819 --> 00:25:37.640
brains were actually to get hacked and that information

00:25:37.640 --> 00:25:48.420
was to get out, then what? it's obvious answer

00:25:48.420 --> 00:25:54.480
would just be get fucked it's going to be a huge

00:25:54.480 --> 00:25:59.619
problem of not only rights for the individual

00:25:59.619 --> 00:26:02.680
but also how do you even prove any of this stuff

00:26:02.680 --> 00:26:04.200
because then the problem is is there even a paper

00:26:04.200 --> 00:26:07.200
trail or digital trail any way of documenting

00:26:07.200 --> 00:26:10.180
it you know being able to alter people without

00:26:10.180 --> 00:26:15.180
any proof or knowledge or any one person pressing

00:26:15.180 --> 00:26:19.359
a button or saying to go ahead um it's going

00:26:19.359 --> 00:26:22.339
to cause systemic issues especially when you

00:26:22.339 --> 00:26:24.240
consider we're not studying this for long enough

00:26:24.240 --> 00:26:27.599
you know you're talking about people didn't understand

00:26:27.599 --> 00:26:29.319
what certain drugs did to people for decades

00:26:29.319 --> 00:26:31.819
what certain medications did for decades and

00:26:31.819 --> 00:26:33.839
they're talking about allowing the stuff after

00:26:33.839 --> 00:26:37.740
just a few years of study no way no you're talking

00:26:37.740 --> 00:26:40.160
about some you're talking about some ghost in

00:26:40.160 --> 00:26:45.500
the shell level shit yeah So I just had this

00:26:45.500 --> 00:26:49.980
thought kind of sort of bring into my head. So

00:26:49.980 --> 00:26:54.200
imagine a brain hack where critical things that

00:26:54.200 --> 00:26:58.960
you need for your life are held hostage in like

00:26:58.960 --> 00:27:05.900
a crypto lock kind of scenario. And they, they

00:27:05.900 --> 00:27:08.339
find a way to put like a paywall in your brain.

00:27:10.269 --> 00:27:12.009
If you want your heart to beat again in two minutes,

00:27:12.150 --> 00:27:14.829
you need to pay us X amount of Bitcoin. Good

00:27:14.829 --> 00:27:19.849
luck. Well, the problem is going to be to imagine

00:27:19.849 --> 00:27:22.670
the amount of people that work in jobs and positions

00:27:22.670 --> 00:27:25.210
where they have an NDA. Imagine if every day

00:27:25.210 --> 00:27:26.670
when you walk into work, they just flip your

00:27:26.670 --> 00:27:28.589
brain back on and then you walk out to turn it

00:27:28.589 --> 00:27:31.730
off. All that information, all those memories

00:27:31.730 --> 00:27:34.670
are not accessible. Not only that, but what if

00:27:34.670 --> 00:27:36.470
that goes wrong? What happens if it's the other

00:27:36.470 --> 00:27:39.559
way around? The person that walks into work is

00:27:39.559 --> 00:27:42.019
not a person that exists. It's just, oh, yeah,

00:27:42.059 --> 00:27:43.980
off with the personality, off with your attitude,

00:27:44.079 --> 00:27:45.579
off with everything else. Just do the fucking

00:27:45.579 --> 00:27:48.279
work. You know, it's just it's just slavery with

00:27:48.279 --> 00:27:50.740
extra steps. That's all it is. That's all it's

00:27:50.740 --> 00:27:52.660
going to be. You know, that that might not be

00:27:52.660 --> 00:27:55.460
terrible. Some some people have very miserable

00:27:55.460 --> 00:27:58.980
jobs and would probably opt to just shut it off.

00:27:59.380 --> 00:28:02.680
The problem is, though. Right. But then the problem

00:28:02.680 --> 00:28:04.559
is, is what happens when it glitches and you

00:28:04.559 --> 00:28:06.640
can't turn it off? Now you got a bunch of zombies.

00:28:08.400 --> 00:28:10.539
Now you got yourself open to a fucking lawsuit.

00:28:13.119 --> 00:28:16.039
Well, if the zombie apocalypse is going to start,

00:28:16.180 --> 00:28:25.680
maybe that's how it starts. Why do I feel like

00:28:25.680 --> 00:28:27.039
the zombies at that point are just going to be

00:28:27.039 --> 00:28:30.480
like fucking Good Burger? Welcome to Good Burger.

00:28:30.500 --> 00:28:36.819
How may I take your order? I love you. A little

00:28:36.819 --> 00:28:38.900
bit of drool coming out of their mouth. Honestly,

00:28:38.940 --> 00:28:43.279
that would probably make my day. It would be

00:28:43.279 --> 00:28:46.819
funny the first time. It would have to be a large

00:28:46.819 --> 00:28:49.859
Hawaiian guy doing it. It's like in a movie.

00:28:50.480 --> 00:28:54.200
Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. I guess I would agree.

00:28:54.299 --> 00:28:56.160
There could be some jobs that could be beneficial,

00:28:56.400 --> 00:29:00.440
but that has to be consensual. Because, God forbid,

00:29:00.500 --> 00:29:03.519
it happens to, I don't know, an EMT. you know

00:29:03.519 --> 00:29:06.960
police officer it's gonna be like the fucking

00:29:06.960 --> 00:29:08.660
and like a spongebob like the orb of confusion

00:29:08.660 --> 00:29:18.539
just a turd on everyone yep oh my god so um i

00:29:18.539 --> 00:29:21.880
i mentioned the uh the the neural link digital

00:29:21.880 --> 00:29:24.240
crosstalk so i wanted to expand on that for a

00:29:24.240 --> 00:29:30.279
second um imagine kind of like signal interference

00:29:31.309 --> 00:29:36.450
between neural channels or devices. Dense implants

00:29:36.450 --> 00:29:42.069
cause noise pickup below a certain level. And

00:29:42.069 --> 00:29:44.789
if they're not shielded correctly, or if there's

00:29:44.789 --> 00:29:47.150
a bunch of people who have maybe this single

00:29:47.150 --> 00:29:51.250
glitch, it could lead to unintended data shares

00:29:51.250 --> 00:29:55.609
or essentially neural eavesdropping, where a

00:29:55.609 --> 00:29:58.809
group of people are sharing thoughts that they

00:29:58.809 --> 00:30:02.359
didn't want to share. And all of a sudden, Bob

00:30:02.359 --> 00:30:04.859
and Jerry sitting on the bus know each other's

00:30:04.859 --> 00:30:09.339
thoughts and what they're thinking. Yeah. It's

00:30:09.339 --> 00:30:14.119
kind of a hive mind mentality, but it wasn't

00:30:14.119 --> 00:30:18.500
consensual. And it also kind of stems in some

00:30:18.500 --> 00:30:23.380
really, really fucking dark territory. If somebody

00:30:23.380 --> 00:30:26.160
realizes that they can do that to somebody, if

00:30:26.160 --> 00:30:29.220
they could hijack someone's implant. And start

00:30:29.220 --> 00:30:31.619
reading their thoughts or even worse implanting

00:30:31.619 --> 00:30:35.539
thoughts. I think that would be just as bad.

00:30:36.480 --> 00:30:39.079
You're running along the thoughts is this one

00:30:39.079 --> 00:30:42.680
author who wrote Kaiju Battlefield Surgeon. And

00:30:42.680 --> 00:30:45.279
it goes off the same. Yeah, same principle idea.

00:30:45.579 --> 00:30:48.440
They, you know, get people locked in this VR

00:30:48.440 --> 00:30:51.839
simulation and by, you know, observing through

00:30:51.839 --> 00:30:55.759
optical implants and stuff like that and showing

00:30:55.759 --> 00:30:58.200
their victims like, hey. You don't do what we

00:30:58.200 --> 00:31:00.640
tell you. Hey, look, here's a video feed from

00:31:00.640 --> 00:31:03.240
your loved one, and they're doing X, Y, and Z

00:31:03.240 --> 00:31:06.599
right now. And if we have the control, we'll

00:31:06.599 --> 00:31:14.160
just turn them off. Wow. That'd be worth a watch,

00:31:14.180 --> 00:31:17.420
maybe, or a read. I guess something to consider,

00:31:17.599 --> 00:31:20.440
too. If you have that crosstalk problem, there's

00:31:20.440 --> 00:31:22.420
going to be a lot of civil unrest, a lot of violence

00:31:22.420 --> 00:31:24.660
out of nowhere, a lot of shattering relationships.

00:31:26.240 --> 00:31:27.839
It's going to be a lot of very honest people

00:31:27.839 --> 00:31:31.859
that work in customer service. The inside thoughts

00:31:31.859 --> 00:31:34.180
are no longer inside thoughts, and now I'm fighting

00:31:34.180 --> 00:31:40.180
this man. Hey, I've said it before. If you work

00:31:40.180 --> 00:31:41.720
in retail, you should be allowed to fight one

00:31:41.720 --> 00:31:47.519
customer a day or a week. Period. That'll make

00:31:47.519 --> 00:31:49.819
a lot of people try to be as nice as possible

00:31:49.819 --> 00:31:58.349
after that. You ain't kidding. So we've got unintended

00:31:58.349 --> 00:32:03.769
data shares, neural eavesdropping. And now here's

00:32:03.769 --> 00:32:05.829
something else. I want to stay on kind of the

00:32:05.829 --> 00:32:08.950
dark side of this for just a minute. Injecting

00:32:08.950 --> 00:32:14.130
false signals and manipulating like it's an invasive

00:32:14.130 --> 00:32:18.369
kind of pattern. Potentially overloading the

00:32:18.369 --> 00:32:22.369
implants and causing damage that way or setting

00:32:22.369 --> 00:32:24.630
up something that could threaten to do that.

00:32:25.359 --> 00:32:30.119
then you've placed essentially a ticking device

00:32:30.119 --> 00:32:35.099
in someone's head. And as these things get mass

00:32:35.099 --> 00:32:37.980
adopted, all of a sudden, that's a lot of things

00:32:37.980 --> 00:32:40.660
running around in someone's head. Or in a lot

00:32:40.660 --> 00:32:46.400
of someone's heads. So there should be ways to

00:32:46.400 --> 00:32:48.440
protect against this if there aren't already.

00:32:48.660 --> 00:32:50.720
I mean, before these things go out into the mass

00:32:50.720 --> 00:32:53.319
deployment, you would hope that they solve these

00:32:53.319 --> 00:32:59.559
problems. Signal drift requires things like recalibration.

00:33:00.400 --> 00:33:03.559
Bio -cyber security needs to be something that

00:33:03.559 --> 00:33:09.400
is a thing. That's a mouthful. We've got external

00:33:09.400 --> 00:33:14.140
fields tampering with the implants. Potential

00:33:14.140 --> 00:33:16.660
for crosstalk in shared environments like the

00:33:16.660 --> 00:33:19.180
workplace. That kind of research needs done.

00:33:19.859 --> 00:33:23.559
And with only, how many did I say, 21 implants?

00:33:24.359 --> 00:33:32.660
We don't have the data right now. So the research

00:33:32.660 --> 00:33:36.440
we do have shows that flexible arrays, like the

00:33:36.440 --> 00:33:44.339
ones they're using, reduce the potential for

00:33:44.339 --> 00:33:48.480
crosstalk via better adhesion and minimal interference.

00:33:49.480 --> 00:33:52.279
But there are gaps in the protocols, and that

00:33:52.279 --> 00:33:55.500
could enable... behavior tweaks or data leaks.

00:33:56.599 --> 00:34:01.359
So even in the data that I could find, they're

00:34:01.359 --> 00:34:05.539
admitting that the current technology has some

00:34:05.539 --> 00:34:12.039
of these potential gaps and issues already. So

00:34:12.039 --> 00:34:14.519
this is what they're already trying to push out

00:34:14.519 --> 00:34:18.000
onto the masses. They know it's flawed. It's

00:34:18.000 --> 00:34:23.460
like a bad Windows update. Yeah, at some point

00:34:23.460 --> 00:34:24.760
it's going to be something they're going to push

00:34:24.760 --> 00:34:26.400
out there and they're not going to be able to

00:34:26.400 --> 00:34:30.400
pull it back. Hopefully I'm not around for that

00:34:30.400 --> 00:34:37.780
one. Well, it's going to be the COVID shit all

00:34:37.780 --> 00:34:40.480
over again. Yeah. You're going to have people

00:34:40.480 --> 00:34:43.039
lining up to take the implant and a bunch of

00:34:43.039 --> 00:34:47.260
people refusing to take the implant. Yeah. And

00:34:47.260 --> 00:34:49.659
what will probably be the driving factor is for

00:34:49.659 --> 00:34:58.280
child safety. Probably. Or if they get the CBDCs

00:34:58.280 --> 00:35:02.219
brought out, central banking digital currency,

00:35:02.360 --> 00:35:06.719
if they do that, you could have your implant

00:35:06.719 --> 00:35:09.219
tied to your bank accounts and everything. I

00:35:09.219 --> 00:35:14.400
shared a video on the podcast Facebook page the

00:35:14.400 --> 00:35:18.000
other day about how all that could look, how

00:35:18.000 --> 00:35:24.820
dystopian that whole scenario can be. It's terrifying.

00:35:25.679 --> 00:35:28.139
It's bad enough you don't really have any rights

00:35:28.139 --> 00:35:30.019
to your money as it is once it's in the bank.

00:35:30.519 --> 00:35:33.780
I can only imagine Duke cryptocurrency. You literally

00:35:33.780 --> 00:35:35.679
have no money if they decide, hey, no, you're

00:35:35.679 --> 00:35:40.159
cut off. Sorry. Yeah. Yeah, no thanks. Yeah.

00:35:42.739 --> 00:35:45.980
Gibbs, there's a lot of big words. Did you want

00:35:45.980 --> 00:35:50.059
to try some of this on the next section? Oh,

00:35:50.139 --> 00:35:54.639
yeah. Nice. Set me up on that one. You can say

00:35:54.639 --> 00:36:00.579
no. I'll do it. I'm used to myself online, you

00:36:00.579 --> 00:36:06.800
know. It's the big words like mayonnaise. Mayonnaise.

00:36:08.159 --> 00:36:11.059
Mayonnaise. It's not an instrument, but it's

00:36:11.059 --> 00:36:20.949
a wrestling medium. It is on my desktop. So there

00:36:20.949 --> 00:36:24.429
is also something else called a synchronic, basically

00:36:24.429 --> 00:36:28.750
an endovascular stent. It's much less invasive.

00:36:28.789 --> 00:36:31.750
It's sort of via blood vessels. It's a stent

00:36:31.750 --> 00:36:37.829
road! Apparently there's supposed to be roughly

00:36:37.829 --> 00:36:43.030
10, if not more, human implants by 2026. I don't

00:36:43.030 --> 00:36:45.269
know if it's by the end of 2026 or by the start

00:36:45.269 --> 00:36:48.170
of 2026. I'm assuming by the end, by the context.

00:36:48.730 --> 00:36:51.190
But there's advanced trials for paralysis prepping

00:36:51.190 --> 00:36:53.889
large scale ahead of approval. Focus on motor

00:36:53.889 --> 00:36:57.369
decoding without skull surgery. For people that

00:36:57.369 --> 00:36:59.190
are like quadriplegic, paraplegic, stuff like

00:36:59.190 --> 00:37:02.030
that, loss of motor functions. That's good stuff.

00:37:02.929 --> 00:37:05.030
Well, especially for people like suffering from

00:37:05.030 --> 00:37:07.289
Parkinson's, for example, or ALS or any one of

00:37:07.289 --> 00:37:10.610
those degenerative diseases. It would be really

00:37:10.610 --> 00:37:15.510
good. It'd be awesome. But again, it's always

00:37:15.510 --> 00:37:20.300
the Jurassic Park. of, you know, are you going

00:37:20.300 --> 00:37:24.320
to stop there? And the answer is always no. Yeah,

00:37:24.840 --> 00:37:26.739
but I don't think grandma's going down the hallway

00:37:26.739 --> 00:37:32.599
and eating people. See, you know what worries

00:37:32.599 --> 00:37:34.539
me is imagine they give people the ability for

00:37:34.539 --> 00:37:36.980
motor functions, but they forgot about the human

00:37:36.980 --> 00:37:39.659
limitations we have on our muscles. So all of

00:37:39.659 --> 00:37:42.079
a sudden, I'm at the age of 75, is able to use

00:37:42.079 --> 00:37:44.659
100 % of her muscles, like tear it off. It's

00:37:44.659 --> 00:37:46.940
like, oh, great. Now I got Super Grandma who

00:37:46.940 --> 00:37:53.559
beat the shit out of me. It's gonna happen. Well,

00:37:53.599 --> 00:37:55.639
the worst case scenario out of that is they're

00:37:55.639 --> 00:37:58.159
gonna give her 100 % use of her muscles and her

00:37:58.159 --> 00:38:05.559
bones will shatter. Yeah. Grandma's like, I feel

00:38:05.559 --> 00:38:10.539
great! Well, then she'll just be sitting there

00:38:10.539 --> 00:38:12.780
beating your face to a pulp with that squelch

00:38:12.780 --> 00:38:17.780
of the muscles. Oh, God. Grandma's beating me

00:38:17.780 --> 00:38:29.840
with her pudgy fist. Oh, man. There's going to

00:38:29.840 --> 00:38:32.800
be some poor bastard that hasn't played with

00:38:32.800 --> 00:38:34.659
himself in 20 years due to losing the ability

00:38:34.659 --> 00:38:37.369
to use his arms. Grab his dick for the first

00:38:37.369 --> 00:38:51.130
time and fucking rip it off. The worst part will

00:38:51.130 --> 00:38:53.710
be it's like he'll come off and then his hand

00:38:53.710 --> 00:38:55.889
let go at the same time. So it goes rocking off

00:38:55.889 --> 00:38:58.949
into the horizon. So you're never going to find

00:38:58.949 --> 00:39:01.289
it. Right out the window, out of the highway,

00:39:01.369 --> 00:39:08.030
right over by the AT Wheeler. 18 -wheeler jackknocks

00:39:08.030 --> 00:39:11.309
because he's like, what the was that? It's John

00:39:11.309 --> 00:39:18.670
Bobbitt all over again. Turn your head and spit,

00:39:18.769 --> 00:39:35.480
Gibbles. Oh, God. That's great. Good job. There

00:39:35.480 --> 00:39:38.539
are also high bandwidth cortical arrays, Connexus

00:39:38.539 --> 00:39:43.219
BCI, using roughly 1600 plus electrodes. It's

00:39:43.219 --> 00:39:46.980
a far more invasive type of technology, but it's

00:39:46.980 --> 00:39:49.300
much higher resolution for things like speech.

00:39:50.420 --> 00:39:52.880
I don't know what speech. What do you mean by

00:39:52.880 --> 00:39:59.699
intent? So like coordination, like using. So

00:39:59.699 --> 00:40:02.440
like high fidelity coordination. Yes. Yes. Thank

00:40:02.440 --> 00:40:06.019
you. Okay. That's what I figured. So, for something

00:40:06.019 --> 00:40:07.480
like that, for speech, definitely, there's a

00:40:07.480 --> 00:40:09.579
lot of people, especially, and I deal with this

00:40:09.579 --> 00:40:10.900
with my grandma, like, after her stroke and stuff

00:40:10.900 --> 00:40:13.440
like that, that for speech therapy and pathology,

00:40:13.599 --> 00:40:16.880
that could be absolutely huge. Especially people,

00:40:17.039 --> 00:40:18.619
you know, that have been through any sort of

00:40:18.619 --> 00:40:20.739
trauma. Especially, you know, there's a lot of

00:40:20.739 --> 00:40:22.880
soldiers, stuff like IEDs, explosives, stuff

00:40:22.880 --> 00:40:25.760
like that, that have a lack of use of those muscles.

00:40:26.980 --> 00:40:29.159
Yet, another good technology that could be great.

00:40:29.530 --> 00:40:31.409
It's all great and all fun and games until a

00:40:31.409 --> 00:40:33.389
base with a system, absolute malfunctions, and

00:40:33.389 --> 00:40:34.469
you have, like, Tourette's and you're saying

00:40:34.469 --> 00:40:35.989
racial slurs at the top of your lungs out in

00:40:35.989 --> 00:40:37.929
the middle of nowhere. Just, you know. It's like,

00:40:37.969 --> 00:40:39.190
great, now I'm going to get attacked at Walmart.

00:40:39.409 --> 00:40:43.989
Oh, this is awesome. But it honestly could be

00:40:43.989 --> 00:40:47.789
epic. It could be really good. Maybe that's what

00:40:47.789 --> 00:40:50.769
happened to that one guy at the Black Horde show.

00:40:51.849 --> 00:40:59.050
His software glitched. Oh, my God. It wasn't

00:40:59.050 --> 00:41:01.989
his fault. It was the AI. Imagine if somebody

00:41:01.989 --> 00:41:04.989
hacks that and they just have, like, the R word

00:41:04.989 --> 00:41:08.590
or the N word just on their phone. I just, like,

00:41:08.610 --> 00:41:13.409
press the button. And it gets stuck. Oh, yes.

00:41:15.289 --> 00:41:18.449
Oh, there's someone. That's the thing. If anybody's

00:41:18.449 --> 00:41:20.929
played the game Cyberpunk, like, they know where

00:41:20.929 --> 00:41:25.070
the stuff's kind of going. Yeah. That was a good

00:41:25.070 --> 00:41:29.269
game. I really have to play it. I have it on

00:41:29.269 --> 00:41:32.650
my Steam library, but I've never played it. Now

00:41:32.650 --> 00:41:36.570
that it's been all this time later now, all the

00:41:36.570 --> 00:41:38.610
bugs are gone for the most part, so it's definitely.

00:41:39.369 --> 00:41:41.130
I'll have to add it to my list. Gibbs, let me

00:41:41.130 --> 00:41:44.909
ask you this, just as a side note. How many games

00:41:44.909 --> 00:41:47.210
in your Steam library can you say that about?

00:41:47.670 --> 00:41:52.989
You own that you've never played. Probably 10%.

00:41:52.989 --> 00:41:58.579
Wow. It's impressive. It's way better than me.

00:41:58.800 --> 00:42:00.320
I'm not like some people that have a subscription

00:42:00.320 --> 00:42:02.099
to Humble Bundle and have like 1 ,500 games.

00:42:02.280 --> 00:42:04.039
That person is currently in our chat, and I'm

00:42:04.039 --> 00:42:05.460
not going to call them out, but they know who

00:42:05.460 --> 00:42:10.519
they are. I collect my games like Pokemon. They

00:42:10.519 --> 00:42:13.159
all go into a little ball, and they stay there

00:42:13.159 --> 00:42:20.940
in the dark and never come out. Oh, man. But

00:42:20.940 --> 00:42:27.320
anyways. All right. got them there are non -invasive

00:42:27.320 --> 00:42:30.519
alternatives um colonel's optical helmet that's

00:42:30.519 --> 00:42:34.519
used for brain mapping there's norables eeg headsets

00:42:34.519 --> 00:42:37.099
um they're having a focus on the consumer goods

00:42:37.099 --> 00:42:41.300
market and attention tracking uh there's braincos

00:42:41.300 --> 00:42:44.679
headbands for eeg for wellness and bionics by

00:42:44.679 --> 00:42:46.800
the way the fact there's a company called brainco

00:42:46.800 --> 00:42:49.099
i literally had to look this up because i thought

00:42:49.099 --> 00:42:51.500
you were you were bullshitting me on that i was

00:42:51.500 --> 00:42:55.590
like no no also i'm not going to lie when i was

00:42:55.590 --> 00:42:57.909
reading about that optical helmet no bullshit

00:42:57.909 --> 00:43:00.130
i was thinking about the helmet that rick keeps

00:43:00.130 --> 00:43:02.829
in his garage on rick and morty yeah that's like

00:43:02.829 --> 00:43:04.570
the exact thing i was picturing but no that's

00:43:04.570 --> 00:43:10.630
like the shotgun shell helmet of death well if

00:43:10.630 --> 00:43:12.670
they have an optical helmet eventually that works

00:43:12.670 --> 00:43:14.809
i mean you'll be finally finally be able to do

00:43:14.809 --> 00:43:17.869
like vr proper and finally be able to do some

00:43:17.869 --> 00:43:20.039
of that kind of stuff If you've ever seen, if

00:43:20.039 --> 00:43:23.000
anyone's here ever seen SAO online or the better

00:43:23.000 --> 00:43:26.380
version, SAO online abridged, you'll understand

00:43:26.380 --> 00:43:28.539
exactly what I'm talking about. Cause the abridged

00:43:28.539 --> 00:43:32.679
one. Yeah. Or an extremely obscure reference,

00:43:32.860 --> 00:43:37.480
uh, Futurama. One of the first episodes, they

00:43:37.480 --> 00:43:40.699
have a scene where Amy's on the moon at the lunar

00:43:40.699 --> 00:43:43.639
park. She's playing virtual, virtual ski ball.

00:43:44.079 --> 00:43:47.320
Yeah. It's, it's, it's a VR headset where she's

00:43:47.320 --> 00:43:52.679
playing virtual. in the headset. Inception VR?

00:43:52.780 --> 00:43:59.019
Why? Yeah. Oh, yeah. They were calling it like

00:43:59.019 --> 00:44:02.159
they saw it. Uh -huh. Dude, we're going to do

00:44:02.159 --> 00:44:04.340
the episode where we have to talk about Matt

00:44:04.340 --> 00:44:07.539
Groening and how he was a time traveler. Oh,

00:44:07.539 --> 00:44:11.659
he's 100 % a time traveler. Dude, that man is

00:44:11.659 --> 00:44:15.539
just calling everything. He has been right more

00:44:15.539 --> 00:44:19.519
times than he is allowed to have been. and like

00:44:19.519 --> 00:44:21.719
specifically right not generally the right like

00:44:21.719 --> 00:44:26.760
literally right to the details are what weirds

00:44:26.760 --> 00:44:29.980
everybody out yeah groaning is proof that time

00:44:29.980 --> 00:44:32.699
travel exists you're allowed to be off on the

00:44:32.699 --> 00:44:34.699
date but the details are what weirds everybody

00:44:34.699 --> 00:44:37.599
out about it yeah he's one of those people he

00:44:37.599 --> 00:44:40.300
probably isn't allowed to play the lottery no

00:44:40.300 --> 00:44:45.920
no it'd be too obvious then uh -huh Imagine if

00:44:45.920 --> 00:44:47.659
you were the year like 2150 or something like

00:44:47.659 --> 00:44:49.579
that, they discover time travel. You go back

00:44:49.579 --> 00:44:53.699
in time and you do animated TV shows. Out of

00:44:53.699 --> 00:44:56.900
all the careers. And not only animated TV shows,

00:44:57.059 --> 00:45:02.360
but the longest running television show. It's

00:45:02.360 --> 00:45:04.179
all conspiracy theory, man. The government's

00:45:04.179 --> 00:45:07.739
funding it. Here's the Simpsons to fund time

00:45:07.739 --> 00:45:11.579
travel. Listen, listen. Hey, we've done dumber

00:45:11.579 --> 00:45:16.679
shit. Yvonne at Niage, okay? Yvonne at Niage.

00:45:20.579 --> 00:45:23.079
Tell me you know that one, Gibbles. Dear God,

00:45:23.159 --> 00:45:25.000
tell me you remember that one. Why do you think

00:45:25.000 --> 00:45:32.039
I'm shaking my head? Back in the day, they had

00:45:32.039 --> 00:45:34.639
an episode of The Simpsons where they used the

00:45:34.639 --> 00:45:37.619
kids. They turned them into a boy band. It was

00:45:37.619 --> 00:45:45.400
Bart, Milhouse, The fat kid, the cop's son, and

00:45:45.400 --> 00:45:48.579
one other one. They turned them into a boy band.

00:45:48.860 --> 00:45:51.539
They were singing that song. And if you played

00:45:51.539 --> 00:45:59.219
it backwards, it was join the Navy. How many

00:45:59.219 --> 00:46:00.539
people when they signed up for the Navy specifically

00:46:00.539 --> 00:46:06.440
cited that? Zero. Yeah, there was a little bit

00:46:06.440 --> 00:46:12.809
of an uptick in recruitment after that. Just

00:46:12.809 --> 00:46:15.389
a little bit. I've never believed in that bullshit.

00:46:15.469 --> 00:46:17.590
If you play a song backwards and it says something,

00:46:17.650 --> 00:46:19.570
you're more likely to do it. It wasn't because

00:46:19.570 --> 00:46:22.110
of that. It was the joke itself that made people

00:46:22.110 --> 00:46:26.969
go, you know what? I'm going to join. Okay. Oh,

00:46:26.989 --> 00:46:28.389
so that was the intention. I didn't know that.

00:46:28.449 --> 00:46:31.329
I thought it was like a side effect. Okay. Yeah.

00:46:31.429 --> 00:46:35.469
Oh, no, no. Yeah. Anyways, let's keep going on

00:46:35.469 --> 00:46:40.590
this. I'm so confused. Awesome. So there is also

00:46:40.590 --> 00:46:44.690
Meta's new wristband that is coming out. It uses...

00:46:44.690 --> 00:46:46.809
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

00:46:47.050 --> 00:46:52.530
What? So I just threw the data on and didn't

00:46:52.530 --> 00:46:55.550
look at some of this. I totally missed that.

00:46:56.090 --> 00:47:00.429
What? They have a wristband? Yeah. They have

00:47:00.429 --> 00:47:02.230
VR. Of course they're going to have a wristband.

00:47:02.469 --> 00:47:05.199
Hold on, hold on, hold on. So they're going to

00:47:05.199 --> 00:47:08.119
be tracking movements of the wrist, correct?

00:47:10.000 --> 00:47:11.239
I know where you're going with this. Where are

00:47:11.239 --> 00:47:20.099
we going? I'm not going to like this. Is this

00:47:20.099 --> 00:47:25.880
thing going to be tracking like... This is not

00:47:25.880 --> 00:47:29.880
a competition. There are no leaderboards. No.

00:47:30.739 --> 00:47:34.000
It's not like that. No. No, I know what you're

00:47:34.000 --> 00:47:37.260
thinking. Are we, are we talking like RPMs or

00:47:37.260 --> 00:47:43.019
are we talking like. No, the SPM stroke. Well,

00:47:43.579 --> 00:47:49.099
if you're a revolution, are we going to be getting

00:47:49.099 --> 00:47:51.139
the, the warnings at like two in the morning?

00:47:51.159 --> 00:47:57.019
Like, why are you running? Dude, if you have

00:47:57.019 --> 00:47:59.119
like family members that share their like wellness

00:47:59.119 --> 00:48:01.780
data. From like their watches or like the Fitbit

00:48:01.780 --> 00:48:03.480
trackers and stuff. You will get warnings about

00:48:03.480 --> 00:48:08.699
that. Oh, my God. Like all the chaos I could

00:48:08.699 --> 00:48:13.420
instill. Yeah. Dad, why are you running at 3

00:48:13.420 --> 00:48:17.760
a .m.? I'm not running. It's weird. He runs from

00:48:17.760 --> 00:48:20.840
1130 to 1230 every night for an hour. His BPM

00:48:20.840 --> 00:48:26.480
is at like 165. I don't get it. Listen, if I

00:48:26.480 --> 00:48:29.000
could do that for an hour. My arm would look

00:48:29.000 --> 00:48:32.340
like the billboard off of Idiocracy. I would

00:48:32.340 --> 00:48:36.860
be quagmire in that one episode. Yeah. There'd

00:48:36.860 --> 00:48:39.219
be parts of my body going, no, I'm not coming

00:48:39.219 --> 00:48:43.500
back. It's left with the little hat. Yeah, it's

00:48:43.500 --> 00:48:46.219
gone off for cigarettes and it hasn't come back.

00:48:46.440 --> 00:48:47.960
Don't worry. They make pills to help you out

00:48:47.960 --> 00:48:51.219
with that, buddy. Don't you worry. Those pills

00:48:51.219 --> 00:48:55.000
have a limit, though. I was about to say, after

00:48:55.000 --> 00:48:59.409
an hour of that, I don't know. That's when your

00:48:59.409 --> 00:49:01.769
body starts looking at you in the mirror. Listen,

00:49:01.929 --> 00:49:04.809
the spirit's willing, but the flesh is spongy

00:49:04.809 --> 00:49:15.329
and bruised. Yeah. No more snoo -snoo. Yeah.

00:49:16.449 --> 00:49:20.349
Oh, anyway, sorry to get off on that. We're eventually

00:49:20.349 --> 00:49:21.690
going to have to do an after show where we can

00:49:21.690 --> 00:49:23.489
talk about some of this stuff, like, without

00:49:23.489 --> 00:49:25.369
the censorship, because the amount of questions

00:49:25.369 --> 00:49:28.679
I have, but anyways. Uh -huh. Maybe that'll be

00:49:28.679 --> 00:49:32.980
our first Patreon episode. He doesn't understand.

00:49:34.460 --> 00:49:37.760
So for Meta's wristband, which is going to be

00:49:37.760 --> 00:49:39.059
interesting because that means they're now going

00:49:39.059 --> 00:49:42.039
to be tracking your biometric data, which that

00:49:42.039 --> 00:49:43.820
I'm very curious about because when that goes

00:49:43.820 --> 00:49:48.139
into VR, that's going to be nefarious. Just saying.

00:49:48.699 --> 00:49:51.400
Let's just take a moment and be thankful that

00:49:51.400 --> 00:49:54.659
it's a wristband and not a butt plug. Oh, that's

00:49:54.659 --> 00:49:57.070
for the subwoofer and the bass effects. Uh -huh.

00:49:57.130 --> 00:49:59.449
You can really feel the rumbling of the shells

00:49:59.449 --> 00:50:04.909
all around you. It's the Thunderdome. Oh, God.

00:50:06.170 --> 00:50:09.289
Why is Private Pilot sitting by the artillery

00:50:09.289 --> 00:50:10.570
and he's moaning in the corner? I don't know

00:50:10.570 --> 00:50:17.489
why. It's weird. He keeps saying, why is the

00:50:17.489 --> 00:50:24.539
artillery just going around? Oh, God. Oh, man.

00:50:24.940 --> 00:50:28.699
Sorry. Last, hopefully, last segue for the live

00:50:28.699 --> 00:50:32.179
show. I want to get that remote -controlled device

00:50:32.179 --> 00:50:34.920
that the one guy uses in all those shorts where

00:50:34.920 --> 00:50:38.539
he's running through the park. What? The fart

00:50:38.539 --> 00:50:44.699
machine. Oh. Mm -hmm. Yep. Yep. I just want to

00:50:44.699 --> 00:50:48.079
walk around the barcade doing that. Oh, God.

00:50:50.420 --> 00:50:52.400
It's not even that big. You're going to drive

00:50:52.400 --> 00:50:56.280
everyone away. I'll wait until after the show's

00:50:56.280 --> 00:50:58.059
over. It's all right. Yeah, they're going to

00:50:58.059 --> 00:51:02.360
get mad at you. Everyone else is good. You can't

00:51:02.360 --> 00:51:06.519
come back. You're no good. You scared my wife.

00:51:12.300 --> 00:51:14.980
So getting back to it, Menace Wristband will

00:51:14.980 --> 00:51:18.519
be reading nerve impulses for... augmented reality

00:51:18.519 --> 00:51:21.239
and virtual reality control so it's gonna be

00:51:21.239 --> 00:51:23.320
an all integrated system which that'll be if

00:51:23.320 --> 00:51:25.599
you have like the meta glasses with the wristband

00:51:25.599 --> 00:51:28.940
you know could be that's gonna make vr porn all

00:51:28.940 --> 00:51:32.980
kinds of different uh it is i was getting ready

00:51:32.980 --> 00:51:34.940
to say you realize we gotta get past this because

00:51:34.940 --> 00:51:40.039
we're not gonna be able to stop all right i'll

00:51:40.039 --> 00:51:46.039
shut up So Chinese players like NeuroXS are implants.

00:51:46.360 --> 00:51:48.519
This is one of the ones I want to add some clarification

00:51:48.519 --> 00:51:52.639
on for me in a second. Or Gestala are ultrasound

00:51:52.639 --> 00:51:56.079
or non -invasive implants. There's a market trend

00:51:56.079 --> 00:51:58.840
right now for hybrids blending invasive precision

00:51:58.840 --> 00:52:03.099
with non -invasive safety. So when you're talking

00:52:03.099 --> 00:52:05.980
about Chinese players like NeuroXS, are you talking

00:52:05.980 --> 00:52:08.219
like esports players? Are you talking like...

00:52:08.219 --> 00:52:13.210
No, businesses. Okay, that was my confusion for

00:52:13.210 --> 00:52:16.829
a second. Okay. Okay, so they're doing non -invasive

00:52:16.829 --> 00:52:21.250
types of implants. Fair. Just a little, something

00:52:21.250 --> 00:52:23.090
you just inject under the skin kind of thing

00:52:23.090 --> 00:52:26.650
or just something simple. Yeah. Okay. Could be

00:52:26.650 --> 00:52:30.230
useful. Also, not for nothing, but the Chinese

00:52:30.230 --> 00:52:33.429
developing medical tech is never, you know, doesn't

00:52:33.429 --> 00:52:36.130
have a great track record. Not a good track record.

00:52:36.269 --> 00:52:40.090
No. If maybe they stop stealing stuff and just,

00:52:40.400 --> 00:52:43.480
developed it themselves, they might have a better

00:52:43.480 --> 00:52:46.639
record. It's way more efficient for them to just

00:52:46.639 --> 00:52:52.019
steal the tech. I'm just saying, it would look

00:52:52.019 --> 00:52:55.639
better. Now that you brought up the whole Chinese

00:52:55.639 --> 00:52:58.320
players talking about esports stuff, I could

00:52:58.320 --> 00:53:03.239
absolutely see putting ultrasound implants in

00:53:03.239 --> 00:53:05.869
their fingers. Oh, I'll be real. I think there's

00:53:05.869 --> 00:53:07.250
eventually going to be a time where, like, you're

00:53:07.250 --> 00:53:08.449
not going to use a keyboard. It's all going to

00:53:08.449 --> 00:53:09.849
be just in your fingers. You should put it on

00:53:09.849 --> 00:53:12.690
a desk or do or it's going to look like, oh,

00:53:12.809 --> 00:53:16.690
God, there's like Mass Effect. Yeah, exactly.

00:53:16.929 --> 00:53:19.210
Where they have the like the alternate reality

00:53:19.210 --> 00:53:23.710
keyboard in the air. But it's going to be whatever

00:53:23.710 --> 00:53:25.710
your fingers are, whatever geometry you want.

00:53:27.010 --> 00:53:29.250
Yeah, you know, I think there's going to be a

00:53:29.250 --> 00:53:33.550
lot of sports. where these types of implants

00:53:33.550 --> 00:53:37.789
are going to be a big problem. And they're going

00:53:37.789 --> 00:53:40.670
to have to be tested. There's going to be a huge

00:53:40.670 --> 00:53:45.849
issue with that. I would like some kind of a

00:53:45.849 --> 00:53:50.010
buzzer implant in my fingers. Maybe just like

00:53:50.010 --> 00:53:52.010
one or two of them. That's getting lazy. You

00:53:52.010 --> 00:53:56.829
got to earn it, buddy. That's getting lazy. Just

00:53:56.829 --> 00:54:01.429
assistive tech. Fair, fair, fair. You can't get

00:54:01.429 --> 00:54:03.869
like a fake finger to slap over the top of it

00:54:03.869 --> 00:54:06.130
that buzzes? No, that's not a thing. I mean,

00:54:06.230 --> 00:54:19.909
maybe. Maybe. Okay. Anyways. Moving on. So, is

00:54:19.909 --> 00:54:23.989
the Neuralink considered a miracle? Or is it

00:54:23.989 --> 00:54:26.250
a brain hack nightmare with crosstalk chaos?

00:54:28.979 --> 00:54:35.840
I kind of call me an asshole. I kind of want

00:54:35.840 --> 00:54:40.539
to see the crosstalk chaos happen just once.

00:54:40.739 --> 00:54:45.820
Not like ultra large scale. Just enough to sow

00:54:45.820 --> 00:54:49.039
chaos to the point where they lose their absolute

00:54:49.039 --> 00:54:54.170
shit. Like a whole office. The amount of men

00:54:54.170 --> 00:54:55.710
that are going to be thrown in jail for sexual

00:54:55.710 --> 00:54:59.809
misconduct for their thoughts alone. But the

00:54:59.809 --> 00:55:02.730
first time it happens, they couldn't because

00:55:02.730 --> 00:55:06.710
there's no precedent. Bullshit. It's in your

00:55:06.710 --> 00:55:09.989
mind. Therefore, your mind is your safe space.

00:55:10.969 --> 00:55:14.949
The legal shit that would fall out of that would

00:55:14.949 --> 00:55:20.250
be godly. How do you prove it? It would be orgasmic.

00:55:21.429 --> 00:55:25.829
can't prove who it is either well now could you

00:55:25.829 --> 00:55:28.429
depends on what you said here's the other thing

00:55:28.429 --> 00:55:30.409
and this is something that just kind of hit me

00:55:30.409 --> 00:55:34.849
a lot of us have an inner monologue oh yeah some

00:55:34.849 --> 00:55:38.829
have that inner monologue in your voice if the

00:55:38.829 --> 00:55:42.550
crosstalk happens does that transfer oh my god

00:55:42.550 --> 00:55:44.530
all those people that are npcs that don't have

00:55:44.530 --> 00:55:46.329
an inner monologue they're immune to this fuck

00:55:46.329 --> 00:55:50.539
you There are a lot of people out there that

00:55:50.539 --> 00:55:54.460
don't have that. Unfortunately, I have entire

00:55:54.460 --> 00:56:00.059
ecosystems in my brain, so good luck. My brain's

00:56:00.059 --> 00:56:03.659
never fucking silent. That'd be terrifying. Yeah.

00:56:04.400 --> 00:56:07.320
I have destroyed and created civilizations in

00:56:07.320 --> 00:56:12.900
my head. Is your head like the freezer in Love,

00:56:12.960 --> 00:56:15.380
Death, and Robots? yeah it's kind of like that

00:56:15.380 --> 00:56:21.099
in a way god i was astounded to find out some

00:56:21.099 --> 00:56:23.940
people don't have an inner monologue i know oh

00:56:23.940 --> 00:56:26.199
that blows my mind i don't know how you could

00:56:26.199 --> 00:56:27.960
operate like that i still believe those people

00:56:27.960 --> 00:56:30.860
don't have souls they're npcs yeah they are the

00:56:30.860 --> 00:56:33.659
npcs absolutely they are the nissan ultimate

00:56:33.659 --> 00:56:38.219
drivers of the world yeah that's a good way to

00:56:38.219 --> 00:56:40.019
look at that you know you know if you don't know

00:56:40.019 --> 00:56:45.639
don't worry about it You're one of them. If you

00:56:45.639 --> 00:56:51.239
don't know, there's a reason. Oh, my goodness.

00:56:52.099 --> 00:57:00.059
Oh, man. That'd be crazy. So I'll take this one

00:57:00.059 --> 00:57:05.099
here. Hypothetical question. Mass adoption. Is

00:57:05.099 --> 00:57:08.400
that going to equal your employer or whoever

00:57:08.400 --> 00:57:13.829
controls the mass adoption? Are they going to

00:57:13.829 --> 00:57:17.389
be in control of your brain and everything in

00:57:17.389 --> 00:57:22.929
it? And if so, would they be responsible for

00:57:22.929 --> 00:57:25.550
anything that would stem from any kind of crosstalk

00:57:25.550 --> 00:57:31.170
leak? Who knows? And do you think that people

00:57:31.170 --> 00:57:36.289
that do get the implants under the guise of the

00:57:36.289 --> 00:57:38.550
work requirements, would they be required to

00:57:38.550 --> 00:57:44.269
sign NDAs? i have a feeling they'll do exactly

00:57:44.269 --> 00:57:45.750
what disney used to do with people just like

00:57:45.750 --> 00:57:47.469
if you're an animator for disney any work you

00:57:47.469 --> 00:57:49.449
do outside of disney is also owned by disney

00:57:49.449 --> 00:57:51.309
i feel like the same thing you're going to do

00:57:51.309 --> 00:57:53.010
that with the nda is where the stuff where anything

00:57:53.010 --> 00:57:55.789
you think of while work for the company or not

00:57:55.789 --> 00:57:58.210
working for the company is their is their property

00:57:58.210 --> 00:58:00.190
because it's what the assistance of their technology

00:58:00.190 --> 00:58:03.210
i will bet you i i'm willing to bet you my entire

00:58:03.210 --> 00:58:06.429
401k that like that's what they will do yeah

00:58:06.429 --> 00:58:10.650
i can see that yeah that's that's just shitty

00:58:10.650 --> 00:58:18.079
enough that yeah I could see that. Oh, all right.

00:58:18.119 --> 00:58:22.639
Well, we can go on to the next section here.

00:58:22.800 --> 00:58:27.239
I don't think that one. Gibbles, do you want

00:58:27.239 --> 00:58:32.300
to take this next one? Yeah, sure. The pushback

00:58:32.300 --> 00:58:36.409
in the future. Uh -huh. Wow, this is short. Greg's

00:58:36.409 --> 00:58:39.030
countering state bans on invasives, right, to

00:58:39.030 --> 00:58:43.730
forget expansions, FTC on BCIs, slash kids, hacks,

00:58:43.949 --> 00:58:47.489
VPNs, encryption, grassroots, neural rights.

00:58:48.230 --> 00:58:52.730
Yeah, so we have VPNs for our computers. Right,

00:58:52.869 --> 00:58:56.869
which they want to get rid of. Yeah, right. Would

00:58:56.869 --> 00:58:59.369
we have to essentially look into developing the

00:58:59.369 --> 00:59:02.960
same tech for our brains? Oh, God, yeah, absolutely.

00:59:03.099 --> 00:59:05.039
But the problem is you're about to have quantum

00:59:05.039 --> 00:59:07.320
computing, so you're going to have to look at

00:59:07.320 --> 00:59:14.900
quantum encryption. Uh -huh. So, yeah. You absolutely

00:59:14.900 --> 00:59:18.900
need encryption, but the problem is, again, these

00:59:18.900 --> 00:59:21.679
asshats aren't taking the time to research anything.

00:59:22.500 --> 00:59:27.840
It's going to be absolute mayhem. Uh -huh. Yeah,

00:59:27.920 --> 00:59:34.030
but then the right to forget. I mean, anything

00:59:34.030 --> 00:59:38.170
that you work on under an employer that forced

00:59:38.170 --> 00:59:40.369
you to get the implant, maybe you get to keep

00:59:40.369 --> 00:59:42.150
the implant, but you're just forced to forget

00:59:42.150 --> 00:59:44.909
everything you did. That could be horrifying.

00:59:45.750 --> 00:59:49.809
Yeah. Literally forget tens of years of your

00:59:49.809 --> 00:59:53.489
life. Well, not only that, but, you know, at

00:59:53.489 --> 00:59:55.469
certain points in your life, there's things that

00:59:55.469 --> 00:59:57.590
happen that create, you know, what we call core

00:59:57.590 --> 01:00:00.550
memories. You know, everybody's watched the Disney

01:00:00.550 --> 01:00:04.900
movie. And those memories could potentially steer

01:00:04.900 --> 01:00:09.760
your inner self to grow and mature in a certain

01:00:09.760 --> 01:00:15.380
way. If it so happens that that memory gets erased

01:00:15.380 --> 01:00:18.980
because it happened at work, what does that do

01:00:18.980 --> 01:00:22.639
to you overall in the long term? How effed up

01:00:22.639 --> 01:00:26.079
are you going to be now because you no longer

01:00:26.079 --> 01:00:30.179
have that core memory? How's your brain going

01:00:30.179 --> 01:00:33.500
to react to that? we already know that your brain

01:00:33.500 --> 01:00:36.239
makes decisions microseconds before you even

01:00:36.239 --> 01:00:41.099
decided to do it. So God only knows what that

01:00:41.099 --> 01:00:43.739
would do to a person's psyche. If you know, the

01:00:43.739 --> 01:00:46.219
brain just doesn't have certain things that it

01:00:46.219 --> 01:00:50.159
requires to make those decisions based off of

01:00:50.159 --> 01:00:52.739
other interactions that you've done in the past.

01:00:54.539 --> 01:00:57.659
Yeah. What I didn't think about until now is

01:00:58.280 --> 01:00:59.780
There would be a lot of companies that they could

01:00:59.780 --> 01:01:01.820
lock down everything they do behind that NDA

01:01:01.820 --> 01:01:04.239
and just make you forget it. So there are certain

01:01:04.239 --> 01:01:07.360
companies that will never have competition. Yeah.

01:01:08.840 --> 01:01:13.900
There would be no competition. Also, there's

01:01:13.900 --> 01:01:16.860
potentially a way to lock out the information

01:01:16.860 --> 01:01:20.880
when you're off the clock. Yeah. Well, not only

01:01:20.880 --> 01:01:26.599
that. Hold on. I just had this thought. In the

01:01:26.599 --> 01:01:30.599
event, say you're working at a factory. Something

01:01:30.599 --> 01:01:33.179
happens at work that you know damn well should

01:01:33.179 --> 01:01:35.500
not have taken place because it was not safe.

01:01:35.699 --> 01:01:37.780
It could potentially get somebody hurt. And guess

01:01:37.780 --> 01:01:41.860
what? It's stuck. It's locked behind a locked

01:01:41.860 --> 01:01:44.599
memory because of the fact of NDA issues. You

01:01:44.599 --> 01:01:47.940
can't be a whistleblower anymore. You can't report

01:01:47.940 --> 01:01:51.000
to somebody saying, hey, this is not safe. We

01:01:51.000 --> 01:01:53.920
shouldn't do that. The company can be like. We

01:01:53.920 --> 01:01:56.280
don't have to do shit because nobody knows about

01:01:56.280 --> 01:02:00.360
it. And now somebody could potentially die because

01:02:00.360 --> 01:02:02.940
you don't remember it. So it's like it never

01:02:02.940 --> 01:02:08.159
happened. It's like race, race, race, race. I

01:02:08.159 --> 01:02:13.179
didn't think about that. That's yeah. That's

01:02:13.179 --> 01:02:17.159
unless you can find a way to get the data out

01:02:17.159 --> 01:02:20.139
while you're on the clock. Good luck with that.

01:02:20.239 --> 01:02:25.849
But then you're in jail. Yeah. Yeah, but if they've

01:02:25.849 --> 01:02:27.650
already figured out a way to lock out your memories

01:02:27.650 --> 01:02:30.630
during the day when you go home, who's to say

01:02:30.630 --> 01:02:32.309
they haven't figured out how to lock shit down

01:02:32.309 --> 01:02:35.909
even when you're working? You know? That's true.

01:02:37.190 --> 01:02:38.869
Because at that point, it probably wouldn't take

01:02:38.869 --> 01:02:42.869
much to be like, oh, you know, my, you know,

01:02:42.869 --> 01:02:45.909
silly as this is, it would be like, say you're

01:02:45.909 --> 01:02:48.690
going on a dating site and it's for some other

01:02:48.690 --> 01:02:52.260
country. So you have the intermediary. where

01:02:52.260 --> 01:02:55.539
they're translating both ways. It's not much

01:02:55.539 --> 01:02:58.920
to say the intermediaries, the software that's

01:02:58.920 --> 01:03:01.820
blocking your memories, going, oh, well, anything

01:03:01.820 --> 01:03:06.579
with this particular nomenclature or this particular

01:03:06.579 --> 01:03:10.119
verbiage, I need to immediately block so that

01:03:10.119 --> 01:03:18.300
this can't go out. Right? Yeah, you're right.

01:03:21.360 --> 01:03:23.820
So again, whistleblowers would literally go right

01:03:23.820 --> 01:03:26.460
out the window because no one would be able to

01:03:26.460 --> 01:03:28.300
report on it because they would never remember.

01:03:28.900 --> 01:03:33.420
It'd be like it never happened. Or God forbid,

01:03:33.780 --> 01:03:38.500
now you're talking about sexual assaults. You're

01:03:38.500 --> 01:03:41.280
talking about racism. You're talking about all

01:03:41.280 --> 01:03:44.679
that heavy stuff that doesn't take place in the

01:03:44.679 --> 01:03:47.099
workplace, or at least it shouldn't. But now

01:03:47.099 --> 01:03:49.079
it could potentially happen. Crimes could take

01:03:49.079 --> 01:03:51.329
place while you're at work. And you would never

01:03:51.329 --> 01:03:55.949
know. Jane Doe goes home and she's got bruises

01:03:55.949 --> 01:03:58.289
all over her body because her boss decided to

01:03:58.289 --> 01:04:02.449
rape her. And he's able to lock it all down because

01:04:02.449 --> 01:04:05.650
behind that NDA, like Gibbs said, you don't remember

01:04:05.650 --> 01:04:08.210
anything. So you have no idea where that came

01:04:08.210 --> 01:04:09.909
from. So you can't report it because you're going

01:04:09.909 --> 01:04:11.550
to be like, I don't know where it came from.

01:04:12.070 --> 01:04:21.159
Yeah. The tech has some extremely dark sides

01:04:21.159 --> 01:04:23.960
that I don't think a lot of people are really

01:04:23.960 --> 01:04:30.000
considering. Stuff like that. Yeah. And who's

01:04:30.000 --> 01:04:32.719
to say also, if they can lock down the memories,

01:04:32.920 --> 01:04:36.340
if they have access to that level of tech, they

01:04:36.340 --> 01:04:38.579
can probably just go in and delete them. Yeah,

01:04:38.579 --> 01:04:42.559
absolutely. And then you literally don't know

01:04:42.559 --> 01:04:46.590
what happened. Yeah. It's like I said, if a crime

01:04:46.590 --> 01:04:51.269
takes place, you're screwed. Oh, what happened

01:04:51.269 --> 01:04:53.949
to my phone? Oh, I don't know. I don't even remember

01:04:53.949 --> 01:04:55.969
what happened today. I was there. I know that

01:04:55.969 --> 01:05:04.409
much. Right. It's, uh, it's scary. Shit. Shit,

01:05:04.449 --> 01:05:11.849
dude. But, uh, we'll say, though, one of that

01:05:11.849 --> 01:05:14.630
next, the next part. Yeah. Yeah, because then

01:05:14.630 --> 01:05:16.949
you have the law of safe privacy, which, I mean,

01:05:16.989 --> 01:05:22.610
kind of hitting on. Resistance, hope, tipping

01:05:22.610 --> 01:05:31.050
risks, anonymity, privacy revolt, unplug or rebel,

01:05:31.309 --> 01:05:37.570
divides Gen Z, demands control. So all of that.

01:05:38.989 --> 01:05:41.869
We have laws trying to get put in place and that

01:05:41.869 --> 01:05:44.369
need to get put in place to protect privacy of

01:05:44.369 --> 01:05:48.090
anybody that adopts this tech. They could end

01:05:48.090 --> 01:05:52.010
up being a bandaid, but the tech could just flood

01:05:52.010 --> 01:05:57.090
everything and overwrite all of it. The thought

01:05:57.090 --> 01:06:01.230
premium, there could be limits on the access

01:06:01.230 --> 01:06:05.769
you get to your own head. And like we were talking

01:06:05.769 --> 01:06:08.800
about earlier, you... You end up having to watch

01:06:08.800 --> 01:06:10.940
an ad to get full access to your head for an

01:06:10.940 --> 01:06:13.980
hour or two. That's terrifying. A paywall for

01:06:13.980 --> 01:06:16.639
your dreams. You just go to sleep and you don't

01:06:16.639 --> 01:06:18.860
dream unless you pay to get access to dreaming.

01:06:19.579 --> 01:06:24.119
That's fucking terrifying. I would murder a lot

01:06:24.119 --> 01:06:31.000
of people. Uh -huh. There's the risk of having

01:06:31.000 --> 01:06:33.079
anonymity just being wiped off the face of the

01:06:33.079 --> 01:06:40.539
earth. That's... Ugh. Uh, the privacy revolt.

01:06:40.639 --> 01:06:44.340
Yeah. Um, you, you can unplug and just not take

01:06:44.340 --> 01:06:47.639
the implants or maybe you maliciously take the

01:06:47.639 --> 01:06:50.840
implant and screw it up intentionally. True.

01:06:51.239 --> 01:06:54.599
You do that. And you become the reason that the

01:06:54.599 --> 01:07:02.420
implants start getting crosstalk. Um, we're,

01:07:02.420 --> 01:07:03.900
we're starting to run a little long, so I'll

01:07:03.900 --> 01:07:06.639
go, I'll jump into this last section here. Uh,

01:07:08.559 --> 01:07:12.500
About 70 % of people who were polled, and I could

01:07:12.500 --> 01:07:16.400
not find the actual numbers, but it was a broad

01:07:16.400 --> 01:07:20.260
description here. People were data concerned,

01:07:20.440 --> 01:07:24.880
but tracking adoption remained steady. It was

01:07:24.880 --> 01:07:30.280
a pretty party split result on surveillance and

01:07:30.280 --> 01:07:33.880
brain tech. The Democrat side favored regulations

01:07:33.880 --> 01:07:37.420
and the Republicans favored freedom. No big surprise

01:07:37.420 --> 01:07:42.460
there. the Neuralink discussion, both sides kind

01:07:42.460 --> 01:07:46.199
of equaled out on hope and fears. So I guess

01:07:46.199 --> 01:07:49.519
that's kind of positive because both sides saw

01:07:49.519 --> 01:07:55.599
the same kind of stuff. You know, a quick segue

01:07:55.599 --> 01:07:59.519
on that. If there is a bunch of Neuralink mass

01:07:59.519 --> 01:08:02.059
adoption, do you guys think that could change

01:08:02.059 --> 01:08:05.820
the outcome of elections? Oh, 100%. Oh, God,

01:08:05.860 --> 01:08:13.289
yeah. Kidding? That there are an infinite amount

01:08:13.289 --> 01:08:14.829
of ways that can be used to influence anything.

01:08:15.929 --> 01:08:18.350
Oh, yeah. Especially, I will bet you money, the

01:08:18.350 --> 01:08:22.930
minute those are adopted, people will vote from

01:08:22.930 --> 01:08:25.489
it. They'll say, oh, you have a neural link.

01:08:25.529 --> 01:08:28.409
We can tell it's you, so just vote from home.

01:08:28.489 --> 01:08:31.250
You don't have to go out and do it. The ultimate

01:08:31.250 --> 01:08:35.329
voter ID. That's really not, because no one's

01:08:35.329 --> 01:08:38.329
going to be able to trust it. Who the hell is

01:08:38.329 --> 01:08:44.229
going to trust that shit? Yeah. No one. So then

01:08:44.229 --> 01:08:47.310
we have the new privacy war. It'll be the elites

01:08:47.310 --> 01:08:50.689
versus the regular people. You know, it could

01:08:50.689 --> 01:08:55.390
be, it could be the people who have the neurotech

01:08:55.390 --> 01:09:01.750
and those that don't. Right. Data might be worth

01:09:01.750 --> 01:09:06.000
more than the people. And I was talking about

01:09:06.000 --> 01:09:09.579
this at the beginning of the show. The possibility

01:09:09.579 --> 01:09:12.680
for people to be able to sell themselves for

01:09:12.680 --> 01:09:15.800
data the same way that they donate plasma for

01:09:15.800 --> 01:09:21.020
money right now. If there are ways for people

01:09:21.020 --> 01:09:24.079
to essentially whore themselves out as data points

01:09:24.079 --> 01:09:29.939
for companies, would this or could this become

01:09:29.939 --> 01:09:38.140
a way for people to make, get by money? Yeah,

01:09:38.140 --> 01:09:40.880
beer money, pizza money, or just I need gas money,

01:09:41.039 --> 01:09:43.239
I need to make the rent, that kind of shit, because

01:09:43.239 --> 01:09:45.699
people sell plasma now. Think about this. Yeah,

01:09:45.699 --> 01:09:48.239
people will definitely find a way to use that

01:09:48.239 --> 01:09:50.800
to make a little bit of scratch. Think about

01:09:50.800 --> 01:09:52.359
this. I'm going to bet you money this is what's

01:09:52.359 --> 01:09:54.920
going to happen. AI data centers are expensive.

01:09:55.100 --> 01:09:57.039
People are cheap. You know what they're going

01:09:57.039 --> 01:09:58.859
to say? Hey, we'll sponsor you in Neuralink.

01:09:58.880 --> 01:10:00.239
We'll pay you a couple hundred bucks a month

01:10:00.239 --> 01:10:02.380
if while you're sleeping we can use your brain

01:10:02.380 --> 01:10:06.960
to use AI to be able to either Bitcoin mine or

01:10:07.420 --> 01:10:10.060
do some other sort of productive thing or run

01:10:10.060 --> 01:10:12.899
some data, run some tests. They're going to absolutely

01:10:12.899 --> 01:10:22.859
do it. Yeah, that's... They're going to. Yeah.

01:10:23.140 --> 01:10:28.279
You're not wrong. They probably will. And then

01:10:28.279 --> 01:10:31.140
that's how we go down the slippery slope of becoming

01:10:31.140 --> 01:10:35.960
batteries for the machines. They weren't using

01:10:35.960 --> 01:10:38.409
us as power. That they were using us to mine

01:10:38.409 --> 01:10:42.909
Bitcoin. Or to just as processing, you know,

01:10:42.909 --> 01:10:45.489
because there's going to come a day where humans

01:10:45.489 --> 01:10:51.770
are far cheaper than, you know, CPUs. Yeah. I

01:10:51.770 --> 01:10:56.289
hate to say it. Yeah. And then the inequality

01:10:56.289 --> 01:11:00.229
gaps, basically tool access, brain tech polarization.

01:11:00.649 --> 01:11:04.170
I'm curious if there could be a differentiation

01:11:04.170 --> 01:11:10.260
between high IQ and low IQ. And if there would

01:11:10.260 --> 01:11:18.560
be a premium on that? Possibly. It all depends

01:11:18.560 --> 01:11:20.939
on how the neural link and the AI uses the brain.

01:11:21.039 --> 01:11:24.659
We're still so far away from understanding what's

01:11:24.659 --> 01:11:27.100
required. Is it literally just neural connections

01:11:27.100 --> 01:11:30.239
or the efficiency of those connections or how

01:11:30.239 --> 01:11:32.460
that brain operates? Who knows? And how much

01:11:32.460 --> 01:11:35.039
does every particular brain influence the results

01:11:35.039 --> 01:11:39.220
of using neural link? do computational tests

01:11:39.220 --> 01:11:48.340
who knows yeah so to kind of wrap this up a little

01:11:48.340 --> 01:11:53.880
bit um do you guys think that if they can solve

01:11:53.880 --> 01:11:57.699
the crosstalk issues that would be the big make

01:11:57.699 --> 01:11:59.579
or break for the the neural link mass adoption

01:11:59.579 --> 01:12:02.319
or you think it's going to be the the forced

01:12:02.319 --> 01:12:08.510
versus voluntary use of the tech So I hate to

01:12:08.510 --> 01:12:11.149
say it. I feel like it's going to be something

01:12:11.149 --> 01:12:12.729
that's going to be mass adopted at some point.

01:12:12.829 --> 01:12:14.590
I personally think it should be for medical reasons

01:12:14.590 --> 01:12:17.470
only just because I feel like that is removing

01:12:17.470 --> 01:12:21.750
a significant part of humanity and the control

01:12:21.750 --> 01:12:24.350
over what you think and how you experience the

01:12:24.350 --> 01:12:26.409
world is something that's uniquely biological

01:12:26.409 --> 01:12:28.810
and especially the way we see it uniquely human.

01:12:28.890 --> 01:12:31.810
So I would be very much against that in terms

01:12:31.810 --> 01:12:35.439
of mass adoption commercially. However. in the

01:12:35.439 --> 01:12:38.239
world that we live in quite frankly if they can

01:12:38.239 --> 01:12:40.199
make a dollar they will happily stomp us into

01:12:40.199 --> 01:12:42.659
the ground so it's definitely going to become

01:12:42.659 --> 01:12:44.220
commercially adopted and it's going to be something

01:12:44.220 --> 01:12:46.539
that eventually i hate to say it it's going to

01:12:46.539 --> 01:12:48.779
be required it will be federally required someday

01:12:48.779 --> 01:12:51.479
just like vaccines or anything else to where

01:12:51.479 --> 01:12:53.140
they're going to say yep you know you have your

01:12:53.140 --> 01:12:55.159
mandated medical stuff yep all right you have

01:12:55.159 --> 01:12:57.800
your neural link yep cool you're a citizen it's

01:12:57.800 --> 01:12:59.479
going to take it's going to take the place of

01:12:59.479 --> 01:13:03.989
a social security number so i'd and they will

01:13:03.989 --> 01:13:09.350
fix those issues. I wonder, and this is me kind

01:13:09.350 --> 01:13:12.229
of nerding out for a second, could this be like

01:13:12.229 --> 01:13:17.789
the earliest 0 .0 .1 version alpha attempt of

01:13:17.789 --> 01:13:22.470
humanity to transition into the Borg? We are

01:13:22.470 --> 01:13:32.390
the Borg. I think... We are here to party. There's

01:13:32.390 --> 01:13:35.649
always a level of humanity that wants to have

01:13:35.649 --> 01:13:38.170
some level of independence, even if it's somewhat

01:13:38.170 --> 01:13:42.489
flawed or fake. Whereas a collective like that

01:13:42.489 --> 01:13:44.470
inherently has zero independence is entirely

01:13:44.470 --> 01:13:48.770
a collective. However, I would say we might become

01:13:48.770 --> 01:13:52.609
a collective social hybrid collective. It might

01:13:52.609 --> 01:13:55.310
be socially a collective where, yes, people might

01:13:55.310 --> 01:13:57.210
choose what jobs they do and what functions they

01:13:57.210 --> 01:13:59.329
have, but social in terms of what the group thinks.

01:14:00.670 --> 01:14:03.869
how they think politically, socially, what causes

01:14:03.869 --> 01:14:06.609
they are championing or fighting for. I feel

01:14:06.609 --> 01:14:08.350
like that would become, instead of, right now

01:14:08.350 --> 01:14:09.770
the political spectrum is very wide, it would

01:14:09.770 --> 01:14:12.789
become very, very narrow. Especially for social

01:14:12.789 --> 01:14:16.329
expectations, how people treat one another. Kind

01:14:16.329 --> 01:14:17.989
of what's expected out in public life. I feel

01:14:17.989 --> 01:14:21.329
like that would shrink tremendously. But people

01:14:21.329 --> 01:14:25.390
would still have to avoid things like depression

01:14:25.390 --> 01:14:27.250
and anxiety and other stuff. They still have

01:14:27.250 --> 01:14:30.340
to feel somewhat useful, unless... If Neuralink

01:14:30.340 --> 01:14:33.479
is so good, they can just completely mute out

01:14:33.479 --> 01:14:35.899
or get rid of any of those emotions. Because

01:14:35.899 --> 01:14:38.460
that's the key driving factor with people. Is

01:14:38.460 --> 01:14:41.460
there emotional regulation involved with the

01:14:41.460 --> 01:14:44.359
Neuralink? If it's able to help regulate or even

01:14:44.359 --> 01:14:48.220
suppress or alter, then the sky's the limit,

01:14:48.300 --> 01:14:50.880
man. You could turn us into savage fighting orcs

01:14:50.880 --> 01:14:55.140
from Warhammer 40K if you wanted to. Or you could

01:14:55.140 --> 01:14:58.920
have us be like the humans from WALL -E. Take

01:14:58.920 --> 01:15:04.180
your pick. No one can go either way. Yep. As

01:15:04.180 --> 01:15:05.680
long as I can get pizza to grow out of the ground,

01:15:05.739 --> 01:15:13.000
I'm happy. Right. Yeah, I'm going down that same

01:15:13.000 --> 01:15:17.260
thought path. I kind of wonder if the tech could

01:15:17.260 --> 01:15:20.899
be developed and matured enough to let humanity

01:15:20.899 --> 01:15:24.140
kind of go down that Ready Player One future

01:15:24.140 --> 01:15:29.569
where instead of using VR as their kind of everyday

01:15:29.569 --> 01:15:33.149
mode of, of life. It's all using neural link.

01:15:35.569 --> 01:15:40.770
Yeah. Yeah. I can see. I mean, it wouldn't be

01:15:40.770 --> 01:15:44.409
the worst thing, but obviously it wouldn't be

01:15:44.409 --> 01:15:53.529
the best thing there. So that's possible. I,

01:15:53.649 --> 01:15:59.439
I just, It's still a subject that I think is

01:15:59.439 --> 01:16:02.560
even deeper than we could ever hope to get into

01:16:02.560 --> 01:16:10.220
on this show. But I still feel like getting the

01:16:10.220 --> 01:16:15.800
conversations out there is important. Because

01:16:15.800 --> 01:16:18.539
this is stuff that's likely coming down the pipe.

01:16:20.279 --> 01:16:22.439
Well, it's something that could easily end our

01:16:22.439 --> 01:16:25.319
species if we're not careful. Oh, yeah. Right.

01:16:25.770 --> 01:16:28.489
Because something people need to realize is with

01:16:28.489 --> 01:16:30.430
Neuralink or anything else, if they're able to

01:16:30.430 --> 01:16:33.909
alter, monitor, or change how the brain functions

01:16:33.909 --> 01:16:37.970
or any emotional state, there's usually a big

01:16:37.970 --> 01:16:41.789
thing with a lot of governments that try to manipulate

01:16:41.789 --> 01:16:43.930
people's relationships, particularly romantic

01:16:43.930 --> 01:16:46.670
ones. I'll tell you right now, if you get rid

01:16:46.670 --> 01:16:49.010
of the family structure for most people or any

01:16:49.010 --> 01:16:52.569
sort of support structure or traditional relationships,

01:16:53.210 --> 01:16:54.470
Because that's something that could immediately

01:16:54.470 --> 01:16:57.149
wipe that out. That could immediately wipe out

01:16:57.149 --> 01:17:00.109
the idea of ever having a family. Support minutes,

01:17:00.289 --> 01:17:03.489
things like that. On the flip side, it could

01:17:03.489 --> 01:17:07.250
also fix a lot of things. All of a sudden, you

01:17:07.250 --> 01:17:09.909
could have a lot of people showing up from their

01:17:09.909 --> 01:17:20.590
cigarette and milk runs. They could. That's the

01:17:20.590 --> 01:17:23.010
other thing, too. They can make people forcibly

01:17:23.010 --> 01:17:25.529
bonded with their neural links. So here's the

01:17:25.529 --> 01:17:27.329
problem. How often a range of marriage is going

01:17:27.329 --> 01:17:30.510
to happen now where the neural links are. And

01:17:30.510 --> 01:17:34.069
it's like, Hey, you know, these two wealthy people

01:17:34.069 --> 01:17:35.750
want to have an even wealthier company. Well,

01:17:35.829 --> 01:17:37.489
your neural links are getting bonded. Tough shit.

01:17:37.510 --> 01:17:38.550
You're going to like it, whether you like it

01:17:38.550 --> 01:17:41.609
or not. And that here comes the ethical dilemma

01:17:41.609 --> 01:17:44.670
of, does it matter if you're happy, even if it's

01:17:44.670 --> 01:17:48.329
artificial? I mean, at that point you wouldn't

01:17:48.329 --> 01:17:50.069
know. Exactly. So then the relationships are

01:17:50.069 --> 01:17:52.550
meaningless. Yeah, exactly. That would bring

01:17:52.550 --> 01:17:58.409
a whole new level of dating app onto the market.

01:17:58.689 --> 01:18:11.090
Yeah. Neuralink .com Neuralinked. Yeah. Quick,

01:18:11.529 --> 01:18:14.829
buy the site before somebody else does. You want

01:18:14.829 --> 01:18:23.250
me to? I can right now. Oh, but... Gibles can

01:18:23.250 --> 01:18:27.270
buy domain names. Yeah. I got hitched on Neuralink

01:18:27.270 --> 01:18:31.069
.com. I don't know. That's going to be a thing

01:18:31.069 --> 01:18:35.890
that's going to happen. Oh, yeah. All right.

01:18:36.989 --> 01:18:39.550
Well, if you guys don't have anything else to

01:18:39.550 --> 01:18:43.869
add to the show, I think we can go ahead and

01:18:43.869 --> 01:18:51.210
wrap that up for tonight. As always, if you guys

01:18:51.210 --> 01:18:54.170
listening have any info you'd like to chime in

01:18:54.170 --> 01:18:57.189
with, hit us up on the Discord or hit us up on

01:18:57.189 --> 01:19:00.850
the socials. We'd love to hear from you. Keep

01:19:00.850 --> 01:19:03.970
in mind the clock is ticking down ever so quickly

01:19:03.970 --> 01:19:08.250
towards our live show Labor Day weekend. We will

01:19:08.250 --> 01:19:10.270
start getting information out for that as soon

01:19:10.270 --> 01:19:12.869
as we're able to. I am still getting everything

01:19:12.869 --> 01:19:17.149
finalized, but we are on and confirmed at least.

01:19:20.070 --> 01:19:22.810
So that will be a thing. If you can make it,

01:19:22.850 --> 01:19:27.829
we hope to see you there. As for tonight, hope

01:19:27.829 --> 01:19:30.890
you guys liked the show. And we love you all.

01:19:30.930 --> 01:19:33.090
Thanks for hanging out. And we'll see you all

01:19:33.090 --> 01:19:35.270
again next week. Bye -bye.