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their mother's last nerve. This podcast is rated

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I. For immature audiences only. Welcome to the

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Now We Consume podcast, everyone. I'm your host,

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Pip. Tonight, as always, are my co -hosts, Gibbles

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and Gibbs. Hello! Hi. And I just wanted to kind

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of let you guys know something and ask you if

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you've run into this. I did one of those phone

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updates, finally, because it's just been nagging

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at me. And now my phone is auto -correcting help

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in my text messages to, you're doing great, sweetie.

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So now my phone is literally gaslighting me harder

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than my ex ever did. And I figure that now it's

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just going to start narrating my dreams in Morgan

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Freeman voice. And then Pip ate the entire pizza

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alone in the dark while crying. And then he fucked

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up. So, you know, I figure it's that or nothing.

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So welcome to the show, everyone. Going to take

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a trip down memory lane tonight. Last season,

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we had discussed, we had a gun episode, Why We

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Pew. We talked about American gun culture and

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a lot of the issues that surround Americans and

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firearm culture, laws, and everything else in

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general. Since that episode, there have been

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A lot of changes in that realm, we'll say. To

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kind of re -familiarize people that are new to

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the show, the basics of the Second Amendment,

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you know, the right of the people shall not be

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infringed. To keep and bear arms shall not be

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infringed. It's primarily for self -defense,

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defense of yourself, your home, and others. It's

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for the ability of a militia to be raised and

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stand up against a tyrannical government. And

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also the U S government, but you know, well,

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I think now more than ever, we have to worry

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about the possibility of outside governments

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encroaching in different ways and, and the U

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S government not doing anything about it. And

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that's something we'll, we'll touch on later.

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That's like state governments. Well, even, yes.

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State governments, national governments, everything,

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every kind of government that you have to potentially

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worry about, you need to be able to protect yourselves

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from them. There's also been... Go ahead. I was

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going to say, because then you end up with some

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pussy -ass bitches like this mayor out west that

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thinks you should be shamed for having expressed

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your Second Amendment right. For shame. Yeah.

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But, you know, he still has that police escort

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and everything, you know, who have guns. Yeah.

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Yeah. Just saying. Yeah. The people that make

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the laws are making these laws from behind the

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barriers and protection of those who are already

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armed. So take that away. And I think their tune

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will change. But there's there's been a lot of

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recent legal shakeups. The Supreme Court has

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heard some cases. There's been a lot of law defining.

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state level cases that have been heard and the

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ripples of those cases are starting to kind of

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get felt all across the country with other cases

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getting challenged based off of the results of

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those so we'll we'll touch on some of those here

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in a little bit uh some stats that i was able

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to dig up um right now in america 32 of adults

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personally own a gun now i felt that stat was

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very low And it may have been off in some degree,

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but then I started to think about the population

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offset of your major population centers, and

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a lot of those places tend to be gun -free zones

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overall. I'll tell you, I think 32 might be a

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high number. Because to give you an idea, New

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York City, they didn't allow any firearms until

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recently. You had to be someone of either a big

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political stance or somebody that regularly carried

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large amounts of, you know, like money or jewelry,

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something like that. So in New York City, they

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were limited to like a few thousand out of the

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millions that were there. Like Boston isn't as

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bad, but same thing with places like in New Jersey

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as well. They're pretty restrictive. Look at

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like Chicago, Detroit, other places like that

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where they are very restrictive. So you're probably

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talking like, I bet you less than 1 % or half

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a percent chance in a lot of those cities. Because

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I've spent a lot of time in these cities. I rarely,

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I rarely knew anybody else that would carry.

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Yeah. Well, okay, so still, even if that's roughly

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accurate, you're still talking a third of the

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country is armed. That's not bad. Once you get

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outside the major cities, it's the majority.

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Oh, yeah. That's the catch. That's really the

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catch in America, where in any major metropolitan

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area, most of it. probably i'm curious where

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um places like out down in louisiana or in dallas

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texas or even in like nashville like certain

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areas that are kind of more conservatively near

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republican i'm curious if how much higher they

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are but definitely in rural areas once you get

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out past the cities it's a significant portion

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yeah definitely the majority um the other number

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that i thought was kind of weird and it kind

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of went against that 32 percent Between 42 %

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and 44 % of people in the country are gun -owning

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households. So I think they just looked at the

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number of actual homeowners, not renters or anything.

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So in that number, again, I think that's low

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because once you own that house, you want to

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be able to protect it. Yeah, but you've got to

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realize that... There's a lot of people that

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don't. Yeah, that's true. There's a lot of people

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that don't. I know both of you are more rural

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areas, but I'll tell you at least around where

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I'm at that's near a major metropolitan area,

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people like me are almost a unicorn, which I

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think offsets it. I hate to say it, but it definitely

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does. And when you think about it. And there

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are some apartments around here that will not

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allow it. That shouldn't even be allowed to be

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regulated. Yep, figure that one out. There's

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some around here, as one of my friends is finding

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out, you can't park a commercial vehicle at an

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apartment complex. Yeah, they're allowed to make

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whatever rules they want. So people got to understand

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that sometimes it's not always about people exercising

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a right or not. Sometimes it's literally, hey,

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if the area leans a certain way, you just can't

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do it. Wow. Almost ties in with like fines and

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penalties for laws. You know, if the punishment

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for a law is just a fine, then it only exists

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to generate revenue. It has nothing to do with

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safety. So to give people the idea why that is,

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why I'm bringing that up, is because there are

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some apartments around here you can't have a

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safe. And in Massachusetts, you cannot own a

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firearm if you don't have a safe. So figure that

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one out. Why can't you have a safe? Because you

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cannot install one. Who cares if it's installed?

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In Massachusetts. Doesn't matter. It has to be

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secure. In order for it to be secure, it must

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be installed. It can't just be like a loose.

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Yeah. Gotta love it. What if it's like a 6 -700

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pound safe? That ain't moving. I mean, you can

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probably get around that, but then here comes

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the problem of, oh yeah, they might not allow

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that in the apartment. Per the lease agreement.

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Good luck with that. Unless you're on the first

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floor. Yeah, I'd like to find some ways to challenge

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some bullshit like that. But good luck with with

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gun ownership becoming a little bit more mainstream.

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There's still a lot of polls that are split roughly

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60 40 on stricter laws for the firearms. So the

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question we're asking is bear everything kind

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of the next frontier as a last resort. is that

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going to be turning into a recipe for chaos?

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If you look at what you're talking about, bear

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everything, what some people need to realize

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is constitutional carry wasn't around until the

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last 10 or 15 years. It used to be for a long

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time in America that generally most gun rights

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were pretty moderate, where most states were

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considered moderate, where as long as you got

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the license and everything you did, everything

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properly into the training, you could carry.

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And there really wasn't as many restrictions,

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whereas now because of so many states being restrictive,

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they have to be able to label themselves a certain

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way to understand it, and that becomes constitutional

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care. So it kind of ends up really separating

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the two halves of either you're either pro -Second

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Amendment states or anti -Second Amendment states.

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Yeah. So, I mean, in the spirit of encouraging

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more people to kind of bear everything, I'm wondering

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if maybe along with our tax refunds, we should

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be getting cannons loaded with grapeshot issued

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to us. So that way, when you get your door kicked

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in at 2 a .m., you're just like, meet my friend

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Shredder, you fuckwads. I mean, I'm not against

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it. It's either that or the Claymore Roomba.

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See, that seems like I like the great. I like

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the cannon with the grape shot idea, because

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if somebody argues, well, you know, they didn't

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have it back then. Be like, actually. They did.

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That's been around since the 14th century. Good

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luck with that. That's right. See, we should

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be allowed to get one of those old -style Gatling

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rotary ones that's in fucking .65 caliber. Because

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people don't realize back then, they just fired

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big -ass pieces of lead. And let me tell you,

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if you did not die from the initial impact, you

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will die from the lead poisoning. You wanted

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to. Yeah, you know. Good luck with that. There

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was no wanting to stay alive after that. No.

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There was an interview that I saw not too long

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ago, like just the past couple weeks. They were

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asking some well -educated college attendees

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what they thought the limits of gun ownership

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should be. Oh, God. These folks, these individuals,

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these future voters, I had to give them credit,

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and I was actually on board with what a lot of

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them said. They were of the opinion. that the

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average American should not be able to access

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anything beyond what police have access to. You

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know what? I'm okay with that because a lot of

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the police forces, they have full auto, they

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have SBRs, they have MRAPs, they have rocket

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launchers, they have door breachers, they have

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all kinds of high caliber armor piercing rounds

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that some states just outright ban. So let's

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get on that page and then we can start having

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other discussions. Yeah. Uh -oh! I think you

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messed up! There definitely needs to be the discussion

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of if you're allowed to defend yourself against

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all enemies, foreign and domestic. And that includes

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domestic. Unfortunately, I think we all have

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to admit, and this is where I think on the left

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we need to admit, as much as 97 % of cops are

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bad, 3 % of them are going to cause you problems.

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And unfortunately, it's are you allowed to defend

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yourself against anyone, foreign or domestic?

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I would argue that 97 % of cops are not bad.

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That's what I said. 97 % of cops are not bad.

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No, you didn't. You said 97 % of cops are bad,

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and then you said 3%. I don't know if you heard

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the answer. I apologize. Yeah. And I was like,

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wait, what? 97 % of them are not bad. I would

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encourage you to listen to that on the editing.

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i'll just i get to control that but so but no

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here we go right yeah i know right but on a more

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serious discussion though that the question is

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are you allowed to defend yourself against that

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three percent that unfortunately it might be

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three percent could be one percent could be you

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know you throw your numbers depends on how well

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that it depends on how that department unfortunately

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is trained and how they're regulated and what

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the standards are because we've seen some that

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are trained very well, and that's great, and

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that's exactly what we want to see. Unfortunately,

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we've seen some where they're clearly not, where

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they're going to sit around and do nothing, or

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they're going to, unfortunately, do something

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terrible. I'm going to be rich. Dude, this is

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the point where, cue the list, and it's like

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a big monologue list of the 900 fucking things

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that have happened. I just watched a video last

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night from Donut Operator where an old lady got

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shot in the crossfire. And that just blew my

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mind. Like, y 'all already shot her once. And

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then she's trying to escape from the bathroom.

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And then you shoot her two more times. I mean,

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at that point, she can't sue if she's not alive.

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No, she survived. And she was very cool about

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it. She was very cool about it. Very calm. The

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woman's been hit multiple times. And she was

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like, just turn the light on. And then when everybody's

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screaming, are you okay? She's like, I'm hit.

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I've been hit. I've been hit. God, I hope she

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is. If I remember right, at that point, I believe

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the son was dead. If I remember right. Or wait,

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no. He went to the hospital. He's in critical

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condition. Grandma got taken care of and she's

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fine. Sorry. She's a tough little bird. First

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of all, don't fuck with grandma. Ever. Clearly.

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She's seen some shit. Second off, that should

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be the biggest fucking payday ever. For the whole

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family, because Jesus Christ. And I will say,

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I think a lot of this doesn't help with the anti

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-police sentiment that's been going on and rhetoric

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that's in with the local media, with a lot of

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news and everything. So I understand there's

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a lot of officers that might be a little more

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scared or a little more nervous in situations,

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I think. Everybody has to kind of agree with

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that. But it doesn't excuse situations like that.

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Where it's just clearly a lack of training or

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information or communication, something they're

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in. Yeah. Like in that scenario to me from, you

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know, the first time the old bird got shot, it

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was one of those scenarios where the suspect

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had the gun. He's aiming at the cop. The cop

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actually got hit, said her mask. So, you know,

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rounds are going to come flying back towards

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the suspect, regardless of what was happening,

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because the cop doesn't want to die. You know

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what? gotcha you put yourself in a bad scenario

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it shit happens the second time that's poured

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back this old bird got shot that's some more

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i think on the officer you know yeah adrenaline's

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pumping all that stuff but good trigger control

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could have kept that from getting way out of

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hand more so than it already was at that point

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so it was definitely more of a training and experience

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kind of thing. Why I think she got shot more

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than once. Yeah. So. All right. So moving, uh,

00:16:24.940 --> 00:16:29.759
moving on with some of this, uh, one of the things,

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well, like, like you were just talking about,

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uh, with her, she should be scoring a payday,

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uh, the legal side of some things, uh, the Supreme

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court. uh united states v uh himani i think you

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say that on whether drug users and that's including

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recreational marijuana can possess firearms with

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states legalizing marijuana left and right what's

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that i was saying like why not if you can drink

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alcohol it's exactly but it's right from the

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way i'm reading on things it's literally at a

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At time of use level is how it should be. Uh,

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and I think that's kind of where the arguments

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are going to be settling. Um, because, uh, right

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now they're, they're arguing whether people using

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marijuana will be able to even possess the firearms.

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Uh, because with, with a being removed from schedule

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one, that's going to change a lot of the stuff

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that's been, uh, sitting on a lot of the docket

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stuff. With states pushing... Go ahead. Sorry,

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my internet's being a little weird. So what I

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wanted to ask is, do you know the current laws

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on how much alcohol you're allowed to have in

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your system and still carry a firearm? Zero.

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Okay. So as long as that's consistent. Yeah,

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you're not supposed to be intoxicated while you

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have your weapon. dc please if they even you

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even think that you're gonna go drink you should

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not have your weapon so but you you said intoxicated

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does that mean are you talking 0 .08 are you

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talking about anything uh the way like in in

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ohio you are not allowed to have any alcohol

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in your system or any kind of impairing substance

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in your system while you've got your firearm

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on you or in your vehicle See, that makes sense.

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It's like operating on a vehicle. Yeah. Okay,

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that makes sense. I was just making sure it's

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consistent with the wording and the language.

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Okay. Yeah, that's pretty useful across the U

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.S. Yeah. Yeah. And I still understand how anybody

00:18:51.019 --> 00:18:53.680
can operate a vehicle, do much of anything high

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on marijuana. Like, how? Well, hey, some people

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can apparently order an Uber and get to the airport

00:19:00.309 --> 00:19:02.930
when they're stoned off their ass. So, you know.

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I don't know. It was time travel to me. He just

00:19:07.609 --> 00:19:09.569
doesn't remember how he got there and why his

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ass hurts. No, my ass was not hurting. Thank

00:19:14.450 --> 00:19:17.150
you. I blame Carly. My face was hurting from

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laughing. Yeah, but dude, at least if they're

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being intellectually consistent with that. with

00:19:26.440 --> 00:19:29.359
the law that then that's what i'm okay with i

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was just concerned that they were rather going

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to have an exception one way or the other but

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if you're talking about impaired by any substance

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then that is okay the only thing that kind of

00:19:38.799 --> 00:19:41.880
sucks is like if you're on some sort of you know

00:19:41.880 --> 00:19:43.680
pharmaceutical med that's like a like a medication

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kind of thing but i know that's kind of a gray

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area yeah so uh along those lines there's a lot

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of states that are pushing kind of a mixed bag

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of Law bullshit. Many states are pushing assault

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style restrictions, yet they still cannot define

00:20:03.450 --> 00:20:06.809
assault as a physical construct of a firearm.

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So thankfully that's getting held up. Many states

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are pushing different storage mandates, liability

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rules for a lot of different places as what,

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what is the legal precedent and the legal. determination

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of justification that has to be put forward by

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either the defendee or the prosecutor. So castle

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doctrine type of stuff. Suppressor access is

00:20:32.980 --> 00:20:35.960
getting easier thanks to federal tweaks. Loving

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that. Suppressors are being classified almost

00:20:40.460 --> 00:20:44.900
as hearing protection now. So with quieter ARs,

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we could be in the situation of polite neighborhood

00:20:48.220 --> 00:20:51.890
defense. And if there's... Quiet neighborhoods.

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Terrans don't look so great when they hear you

00:20:53.950 --> 00:20:57.829
practicing. Especially if you're using some subsonic

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300 blackout. Oh, yes. I've seen some with some

00:21:00.890 --> 00:21:04.269
suppressors that are shockingly quiet. Uh -huh.

00:21:04.730 --> 00:21:10.509
And a side note on suppressed firearms. If you're

00:21:10.509 --> 00:21:12.990
in the backyard getting your practice in, the

00:21:12.990 --> 00:21:18.190
zombies won't hear you coming. Oops, I thought.

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I was going to say, but the funny part with all

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these laws and all these restrictions that they

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keep putting in place, if they actually took

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the time to enforce said laws and force these

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judges to actually enforce the state minimums

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or go with, in the case of this one guy. What

00:21:46.839 --> 00:21:49.740
was that gentleman that got recommended 65 years

00:21:49.740 --> 00:21:54.019
for rape, assault, and all that, and kidnapping,

00:21:54.279 --> 00:21:57.119
and a judge turned around and said, nah, 30 years.

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And while the suspect is sitting there, or defendant,

00:22:01.700 --> 00:22:04.319
excuse me, is sitting there berating her, telling

00:22:04.319 --> 00:22:07.519
her to suck his, you know what, and all this

00:22:07.519 --> 00:22:11.779
other stuff, things that most normal courthouses

00:22:11.779 --> 00:22:14.920
would never put up with. She's sitting there

00:22:14.920 --> 00:22:17.859
just kind of foo fooing in a way like, oh, you've

00:22:17.859 --> 00:22:20.380
had a bad life. And yeah, I know you're saying

00:22:20.380 --> 00:22:24.599
these things, but oh, well, if judges were held

00:22:24.599 --> 00:22:28.539
accountable for shit like that and they actually

00:22:28.539 --> 00:22:31.079
enforce said laws when it was time to enforce

00:22:31.079 --> 00:22:33.819
them, all these laws that they keep coming up

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with are not needed. None of them. Not a single

00:22:38.650 --> 00:22:40.509
one of these laws that people keep coming up

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with are not needed. The only people that they're

00:22:43.349 --> 00:22:46.769
affecting is the citizen, the person that's trying

00:22:46.769 --> 00:22:49.710
to follow the law. Those are the only people

00:22:49.710 --> 00:22:52.329
to affect. The criminals don't give a goddamn.

00:22:52.730 --> 00:22:55.289
It always comes back to the laws are literally

00:22:55.289 --> 00:22:58.250
just words on paper. It's who chooses to follow

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and abide by them and who doesn't. So, again,

00:23:02.230 --> 00:23:04.349
a lot of people that don't want to deal with

00:23:04.349 --> 00:23:07.680
them. Well, I was going to say the only people

00:23:07.680 --> 00:23:09.220
that are abiding by it are the people that don't

00:23:09.220 --> 00:23:10.980
want to deal with the police and they don't want

00:23:10.980 --> 00:23:13.079
to lose their freedoms. Those are the ones who

00:23:13.079 --> 00:23:15.339
follow it. The other ones, they don't give a

00:23:15.339 --> 00:23:21.220
shit. It's a game. I was going to say a law that's

00:23:21.220 --> 00:23:24.680
not enforced. It doesn't exist. So it's one of

00:23:24.680 --> 00:23:26.839
those problems where if it's never enforced,

00:23:27.099 --> 00:23:32.279
it's really not a law. Yeah. Yeah. And DC has

00:23:32.279 --> 00:23:36.150
a lot of those. And see, this is kind of what

00:23:36.150 --> 00:23:40.130
has been one of the bigger ongoing issues in

00:23:40.130 --> 00:23:43.890
the gun discussion for many years. Responsible

00:23:43.890 --> 00:23:46.769
controls versus rights and finding the balance.

00:23:49.410 --> 00:23:51.789
And then when you get into that, you've always

00:23:51.789 --> 00:23:54.910
got the issues of all the tragedies that happen

00:23:54.910 --> 00:23:57.890
versus the rights of the people who don't admit

00:23:57.890 --> 00:24:02.319
the tragedies. You've got defense of... Home

00:24:02.319 --> 00:24:04.779
and self versus the responsibility of people

00:24:04.779 --> 00:24:08.400
that are out and about social violence and murder

00:24:08.400 --> 00:24:12.960
and suicide versus just national safety. I mean,

00:24:12.980 --> 00:24:14.900
the list goes on. Well, you got two sides of

00:24:14.900 --> 00:24:17.079
the. All right, because you got two sides of

00:24:17.079 --> 00:24:18.819
the coin. You got the people that think they

00:24:18.819 --> 00:24:21.099
should be able to defend themselves by any means

00:24:21.099 --> 00:24:23.359
necessary when somebody is coming after them

00:24:23.359 --> 00:24:26.440
with a weapon of any kind. And then you got the

00:24:26.440 --> 00:24:28.859
retards on the other side that watched your baby

00:24:28.859 --> 00:24:33.599
get shot. Bad word. Bad word. Sorry. I got caught

00:24:33.599 --> 00:24:36.880
up in the moment. I do apologize. Put that one

00:24:36.880 --> 00:24:38.839
in the jar. Sorry, I got caught up because I

00:24:38.839 --> 00:24:41.980
get angry about this. You got people that sit

00:24:41.980 --> 00:24:44.700
there and they get angry because their baby boo

00:24:44.700 --> 00:24:47.039
got shot up while they were committing a crime,

00:24:47.299 --> 00:24:50.160
a violent crime, and they want to come after

00:24:50.160 --> 00:24:54.140
the victim as if they're the ones that were wrong.

00:24:54.240 --> 00:24:57.859
You should have just let them rob you. What kind

00:24:57.859 --> 00:25:01.750
of mentality is that? Excuse me. Like I said,

00:25:01.809 --> 00:25:04.569
I get angry about that. It's all good. You were

00:25:04.569 --> 00:25:06.849
a cop for many years. You saw both sides of a

00:25:06.849 --> 00:25:10.049
lot of these things. So you've got some special

00:25:10.049 --> 00:25:20.410
perspective from a lot of this shit. My question

00:25:20.410 --> 00:25:25.329
kind of goes back to the marijuana debate. What

00:25:25.329 --> 00:25:28.410
are your thoughts on if the Supreme Court...

00:25:28.829 --> 00:25:33.569
Decides that casual marijuana users will lose

00:25:33.569 --> 00:25:36.970
firearm rights. I think that kind of legislates

00:25:36.970 --> 00:25:42.349
a lot of firearm owners out of the situation.

00:25:43.609 --> 00:25:48.410
It would be unconstitutional. I agree. And I

00:25:48.410 --> 00:25:50.410
also think with it getting removed from Schedule

00:25:50.410 --> 00:25:53.769
1, that's going to be a much harder thing for

00:25:53.769 --> 00:25:59.609
them to do. The problem runs here that if you

00:25:59.609 --> 00:26:05.910
can't use a mild amount of marijuana, then I

00:26:05.910 --> 00:26:08.349
guess you can't be on anything. Yeah. I mean,

00:26:08.349 --> 00:26:10.690
for God's sakes, you can't even have freaking

00:26:10.690 --> 00:26:17.309
caffeine. Yeah, that's true. There was one case

00:26:17.309 --> 00:26:21.410
they were trying to expand the definition of

00:26:21.410 --> 00:26:23.990
mind -altering substances, and caffeine was on

00:26:23.990 --> 00:26:29.519
their list. So they were really, it was somebody

00:26:29.519 --> 00:26:33.220
in the Brady camp. So that doesn't surprise me

00:26:33.220 --> 00:26:40.500
at all. So, um, now this one, uh, Gibbles, I

00:26:40.500 --> 00:26:44.000
know this one's going to, uh, tickle your taint

00:26:44.000 --> 00:26:48.700
a little bit. Oh boy. Ghost gun controversies.

00:26:50.200 --> 00:26:57.279
Hmm. Uh, the DIY, uh, camp. Is it liberty or

00:26:57.279 --> 00:27:03.700
the untraceable risk? We've heard the rage and

00:27:03.700 --> 00:27:10.359
the spooky tales of ghost guns for years. I know

00:27:10.359 --> 00:27:12.940
your eye is twitching because of that. I can

00:27:12.940 --> 00:27:16.759
see it. Literally, ghost guns. I'm playing with

00:27:16.759 --> 00:27:19.660
3D printers. Yeah. Yeah, I play with 3D printers

00:27:19.660 --> 00:27:24.059
now. You know that. So do I. I'm sorry, but...

00:27:25.400 --> 00:27:29.700
you're not going to stop that. The only people

00:27:29.700 --> 00:27:32.619
you're going to affect is you and I who want

00:27:32.619 --> 00:27:35.539
to follow the law, want to be law -abiding citizens,

00:27:35.880 --> 00:27:37.779
raise our children to be law -abiding citizens.

00:27:38.099 --> 00:27:39.539
We're the only ones who are going to be affected

00:27:39.539 --> 00:27:44.480
by that. If you want to jailbreak your machine,

00:27:44.859 --> 00:27:47.859
reprogram it real quick, and still print that

00:27:47.859 --> 00:27:49.579
stuff out, guess what? It's going to happen.

00:27:49.660 --> 00:27:52.480
You can't regulate that away. It's out in the

00:27:52.480 --> 00:27:55.920
wild already. You can't make it stop. The only

00:27:55.920 --> 00:27:58.819
thing you should be doing is making it a crime

00:27:58.819 --> 00:28:01.299
to be able to use something like that in the

00:28:01.299 --> 00:28:03.799
commission of a crime and make it so heinous

00:28:03.799 --> 00:28:07.759
of a punishment that nobody's going to want to

00:28:07.759 --> 00:28:09.640
do it. Otherwise, they know they're screwed.

00:28:10.279 --> 00:28:13.619
That's what should happen. Not to sit there and

00:28:13.619 --> 00:28:16.400
regulate something because, oh, there's a spooky

00:28:16.400 --> 00:28:18.859
thing happening where you could make your own

00:28:18.859 --> 00:28:20.680
gun. Hey, guess what? We've been able to make

00:28:20.680 --> 00:28:24.160
our own guns now for hundreds of years. What's

00:28:24.160 --> 00:28:26.779
different except the mechanism of how you made

00:28:26.779 --> 00:28:32.420
it? Yep. There's kits that show you how to make

00:28:32.420 --> 00:28:35.619
your own guns, for God's sakes. They're not hard.

00:28:35.660 --> 00:28:43.799
80 % lowers? Yeah. Oh my God, he 3D printed it.

00:28:45.619 --> 00:28:48.839
Yeah, and with 3D printers getting not only more

00:28:48.839 --> 00:28:52.509
affordable, but also... more advanced and and

00:28:52.509 --> 00:28:54.789
the materials that you can print with are also

00:28:54.789 --> 00:28:58.549
getting more advanced i mean 3d printing is moving

00:28:58.549 --> 00:29:01.430
not just out of the hobby realm but into the

00:29:01.430 --> 00:29:04.309
commercial realm you can set up 3d printers in

00:29:04.309 --> 00:29:07.730
your garage and have a full fabrication shop

00:29:07.730 --> 00:29:13.069
printing commercial grade parts that are not

00:29:13.069 --> 00:29:19.390
possible to make in many other cases that's why

00:29:19.390 --> 00:29:25.910
3d printing took off Yeah. I can make a 90 cent

00:29:25.910 --> 00:29:28.509
part that typically in the past, it would have

00:29:28.509 --> 00:29:31.109
cost me like 90 bucks for it because the company

00:29:31.109 --> 00:29:34.509
didn't want to keep it in stock. So I had to

00:29:34.509 --> 00:29:37.549
replace the whole mechanism. Whereas now I'm

00:29:37.549 --> 00:29:39.970
like, I just need a gear. Oh, let me print it.

00:29:40.470 --> 00:29:42.549
Now I don't have to replace the whole flipping

00:29:42.549 --> 00:29:52.470
thing. Yeah. So. Yeah. The Supreme Court. upheld

00:29:52.470 --> 00:29:57.250
that ATF, they had kit regulations back in 2025.

00:29:58.450 --> 00:30:01.190
It involved serial numbers and background checks

00:30:01.190 --> 00:30:05.269
would be required for some of these kits. But

00:30:05.269 --> 00:30:09.769
the fight is ongoing. Currently, the House has

00:30:09.769 --> 00:30:14.390
passed H .R. 2189 that's trying to create a new

00:30:14.390 --> 00:30:19.329
ghost gun class using less lethal loopholes and

00:30:20.000 --> 00:30:21.500
A lot of the people are talking about this is

00:30:21.500 --> 00:30:25.480
using conversions bypasses to get around some

00:30:25.480 --> 00:30:28.599
of this stuff. Basically saying if you can use

00:30:28.599 --> 00:30:31.779
a conversion kit off the shelf that these 3D

00:30:31.779 --> 00:30:35.960
printed firearms will fall under that. So it's

00:30:35.960 --> 00:30:39.220
kind of a really weird gray area thing and it's

00:30:39.220 --> 00:30:42.660
confusing as hell to try to read. So if you have

00:30:42.660 --> 00:30:49.140
time, look up HR 2189 and give it a go. A lot

00:30:49.140 --> 00:30:50.380
of states are kind of fighting back. It's as

00:30:50.380 --> 00:30:55.279
simple as just saying, yeah. Well, like I said

00:30:55.279 --> 00:30:58.420
before, it's such a simple thing that I swear

00:30:58.420 --> 00:31:01.759
they don't want to do. Just make it a punishment

00:31:01.759 --> 00:31:05.220
of such that it's bad enough that anybody thinks

00:31:05.220 --> 00:31:07.859
about, hey, should I print my own ghost gun?

00:31:08.359 --> 00:31:10.740
What happens if I do it and commission a crime

00:31:10.740 --> 00:31:13.480
or it comes back on me? Maybe I shouldn't do

00:31:13.480 --> 00:31:22.480
that. You know? Some states are trying to mandate

00:31:22.480 --> 00:31:26.200
barrel transparency. They're trying to outright

00:31:26.200 --> 00:31:31.819
ban 3D printing in general. Some are using digital

00:31:31.819 --> 00:31:34.700
codes to try to get into the printers so that

00:31:34.700 --> 00:31:38.599
they can identify what's being printed. That's

00:31:38.599 --> 00:31:41.079
great for new printers, but you can't stop the

00:31:41.079 --> 00:31:42.779
old printers that don't have that technology.

00:31:43.500 --> 00:31:47.019
And tinkers are going to tinker so they can get

00:31:47.019 --> 00:31:52.819
around that shit. yeah you ain't kidding um i

00:31:52.819 --> 00:31:55.240
mean there's there's all kinds of other stuff

00:31:55.240 --> 00:31:57.119
they're trying to get uh implemented in this

00:31:57.119 --> 00:32:04.380
stuff so um do you guys feel that ghost guns

00:32:04.380 --> 00:32:08.980
or the 3d printed firearms are anything that

00:32:08.980 --> 00:32:12.559
should be legal or like like is that like the

00:32:12.559 --> 00:32:15.059
ultimate expression of the second amendment you

00:32:15.059 --> 00:32:17.440
can build your road freedom essentially Or is

00:32:17.440 --> 00:32:19.519
it really kind of a criminal thing? Because I

00:32:19.519 --> 00:32:23.559
don't know how many 3D printed guns get used

00:32:23.559 --> 00:32:25.579
in crimes, and I could not find the stats for

00:32:25.579 --> 00:32:29.359
that. So I can't imagine it's many. I'm not saying

00:32:29.359 --> 00:32:32.559
zero, but apparently it's not enough that are

00:32:32.559 --> 00:32:39.900
tracked in the crime stats. I don't know. I almost

00:32:39.900 --> 00:32:42.579
look at it the same way that you look at a toy

00:32:42.579 --> 00:32:44.880
gun that's been painted up to look like a real

00:32:44.880 --> 00:32:49.039
weapon. You can print out a fake gun on a 3D

00:32:49.039 --> 00:32:50.940
printer. It looks like the real thing. These

00:32:50.940 --> 00:32:53.400
things are functional. But I also printed it

00:32:53.400 --> 00:32:57.160
where the... Well, you know, I mean, they are

00:32:57.160 --> 00:33:00.500
functional to a point, but I'm very sure none

00:33:00.500 --> 00:33:03.640
of the filament can withstand some of the pressures

00:33:03.640 --> 00:33:07.039
these rounds take. Maybe like a .22 caliber,

00:33:07.099 --> 00:33:10.279
possibly, or a 9mm, but anything past that, I

00:33:10.279 --> 00:33:13.079
can't imagine a ghost gun sitting... taking that

00:33:13.079 --> 00:33:16.079
kind of pressure and lasting for more than a

00:33:16.079 --> 00:33:19.480
few rounds at best. I think that's all they're

00:33:19.480 --> 00:33:22.000
designed for is, is between like two and five

00:33:22.000 --> 00:33:33.839
rounds. I've seen up to a 38. So, but I mean,

00:33:33.859 --> 00:33:36.019
if you're trying to do something, you know, some

00:33:36.019 --> 00:33:40.380
kind of a job air quotes, maybe that's all you

00:33:40.380 --> 00:33:45.779
need. is just one or two rounds so scared to

00:33:45.779 --> 00:33:49.740
shit everybody well you just need to be the bank

00:33:49.740 --> 00:33:51.660
robber walks in with the ghost gun and shoots

00:33:51.660 --> 00:33:53.599
it once and goes everybody get on the ground

00:33:53.599 --> 00:33:57.259
well that or you just need to get a round onto

00:33:57.259 --> 00:34:02.480
a target i mean yeah 3d 3d printed gun would

00:34:02.480 --> 00:34:11.099
be a hit and shot one kill exactly yeah so There's

00:34:11.099 --> 00:34:14.139
some ethical stuff that we kind of need to talk

00:34:14.139 --> 00:34:19.420
about in this. It does prohibit bad actors from

00:34:19.420 --> 00:34:22.519
getting this stuff if they kind of go down the

00:34:22.519 --> 00:34:25.380
banning route, but it impacts the hobbyists,

00:34:25.400 --> 00:34:30.460
I feel, way more. If they put many more restrictions

00:34:30.460 --> 00:34:34.679
on the people that are in the 3D printing field,

00:34:34.900 --> 00:34:37.800
it's going to restrict them way more than it's

00:34:37.800 --> 00:34:41.019
going to restrict or do anything. To go up against

00:34:41.019 --> 00:34:42.780
the criminals that are using the or potentially

00:34:42.780 --> 00:34:47.820
using the. Because the people who are using the

00:34:47.820 --> 00:34:50.219
3D printers are not just using them for this

00:34:50.219 --> 00:34:53.579
or potentially using them for this. As we know,

00:34:53.679 --> 00:34:55.820
3D printers are used every single day to make

00:34:55.820 --> 00:35:00.400
a plethora of things that don't hurt anyone in

00:35:00.400 --> 00:35:06.780
any way. Another way to look at this is a lathe

00:35:06.780 --> 00:35:10.110
and a mill. Those can be used. to make a rifle,

00:35:10.269 --> 00:35:12.909
but they can also be used to make things like

00:35:12.909 --> 00:35:17.289
motors or car parts or things for your house,

00:35:17.369 --> 00:35:22.650
pieces of machinery. A 3D printer can be used

00:35:22.650 --> 00:35:24.489
to make a firearm, but it can be used to make

00:35:24.489 --> 00:35:26.130
other things. They have 3D printers on the space

00:35:26.130 --> 00:35:31.190
station. It doesn't hurt anybody. A hammer can

00:35:31.190 --> 00:35:32.869
kill someone just as well as it can build a house.

00:35:33.610 --> 00:35:36.710
So in this field, like we said earlier, with

00:35:36.710 --> 00:35:39.630
the laws, it all comes down. to the user, the

00:35:39.630 --> 00:35:41.650
intent, and the people who will follow them.

00:35:43.769 --> 00:35:46.550
Yep. But politicians don't care about that. They

00:35:46.550 --> 00:35:48.289
just want the feel -good points so they can get

00:35:48.289 --> 00:35:51.349
the votes. No, and since you brought up the politicians,

00:35:51.570 --> 00:35:55.869
I want to say this. I personally feel that most

00:35:55.869 --> 00:35:58.929
of the people that are making these laws are

00:35:58.929 --> 00:36:01.969
people who are not technologically savvy enough

00:36:01.969 --> 00:36:05.610
to understand the vast majority of the shit that

00:36:05.610 --> 00:36:09.489
goes into these things. And they're sitting here

00:36:09.489 --> 00:36:12.829
trying to regulate the common sense out of stuff

00:36:12.829 --> 00:36:16.550
they don't understand. Well, they're also the

00:36:16.550 --> 00:36:18.530
same sort of people that sit there and regulate

00:36:18.530 --> 00:36:21.670
the weapons themselves. They don't give a shit

00:36:21.670 --> 00:36:24.769
about, you know, the common man and what they're

00:36:24.769 --> 00:36:29.150
using it for. All they see is if I can make a

00:36:29.150 --> 00:36:32.909
law that restricts this weapon even more, I can

00:36:32.909 --> 00:36:36.059
get votes. It doesn't matter that it doesn't

00:36:36.059 --> 00:36:38.199
hurt the criminal at all. It's only hurting the

00:36:38.199 --> 00:36:42.099
citizen. So be it. That's the way I've seen it.

00:36:42.300 --> 00:36:44.699
And that's every single time I see a politician

00:36:44.699 --> 00:36:47.559
get on the pulpit talking about, oh, we're going

00:36:47.559 --> 00:36:49.900
to pass more common sense gun laws. There's no

00:36:49.900 --> 00:36:52.619
common sense to it if you don't even encourage

00:36:52.619 --> 00:36:57.260
the prosecutors and the judges to actually enforce

00:36:57.260 --> 00:37:00.380
the laws that you have on the books now. Where's

00:37:00.380 --> 00:37:03.889
the common sense to any of that? You know, 3D

00:37:03.889 --> 00:37:08.889
printers, gun laws. It's all pointless if you

00:37:08.889 --> 00:37:11.389
don't enforce. Yeah, it's all pointless if you

00:37:11.389 --> 00:37:14.369
don't enforce the law. I saw that so much. You

00:37:14.369 --> 00:37:17.110
have all these laws that are on the book. In

00:37:17.110 --> 00:37:18.909
District of Columbia, there were so many laws

00:37:18.909 --> 00:37:20.750
that you have that you don't even realize you

00:37:20.750 --> 00:37:23.449
can break. Hell, you can run on yellow light.

00:37:23.530 --> 00:37:26.710
Guess what? That's a civil infraction. You're

00:37:26.710 --> 00:37:28.489
not even supposed to run a yellow light. How

00:37:28.489 --> 00:37:31.159
many people know that? because it's not enforced

00:37:31.159 --> 00:37:36.320
usually but i mean and that's what i digress

00:37:36.320 --> 00:37:39.619
you know we keep talking about oh more common

00:37:39.619 --> 00:37:41.900
sense gun laws or we're going to restrict this

00:37:41.900 --> 00:37:44.639
or we're going to do that it doesn't affect the

00:37:44.639 --> 00:37:46.539
criminal because you don't enforce the law the

00:37:46.539 --> 00:37:49.320
only people that get hit by this stuff is the

00:37:49.320 --> 00:37:51.280
poor bastards who are sitting there trying to

00:37:51.280 --> 00:37:53.820
follow the law hell you got a guy down in georgia

00:37:53.820 --> 00:37:57.119
followed the law went to a gun store legally

00:37:57.119 --> 00:37:59.900
bought a weapon Have you guys heard of this?

00:38:00.059 --> 00:38:04.039
Where he got arrested for a stolen gun that he

00:38:04.039 --> 00:38:08.739
bought legally. It was sold to him as a. Yeah.

00:38:08.780 --> 00:38:14.059
Oh, wow. It was sold to him from a gun store

00:38:14.059 --> 00:38:17.579
in the state of Alabama. You can look this up.

00:38:17.739 --> 00:38:22.820
This poor bastard got pulled over. They let the

00:38:22.820 --> 00:38:25.380
cops know I have a gun. They checked the serial

00:38:25.380 --> 00:38:28.010
number. Come to find out. It was administrative

00:38:28.010 --> 00:38:32.230
error that a weapon stolen from a police department

00:38:32.230 --> 00:38:35.389
was taken as evidence and administrative error

00:38:35.389 --> 00:38:38.730
allowed it to be taken out and sold to a gun

00:38:38.730 --> 00:38:42.630
store who was unable to legally sell it. And

00:38:42.630 --> 00:38:46.670
yet this guy who bought this legally got denied

00:38:46.670 --> 00:38:49.510
bond by a judge because he should have known

00:38:49.510 --> 00:38:52.690
it was stolen. But you can't check NCIS as a

00:38:52.690 --> 00:38:56.579
civilian. There is no way you're ever going to

00:38:56.579 --> 00:39:01.599
know that. It's up to the store and the police

00:39:01.599 --> 00:39:04.639
department who did this to be able to say, yes,

00:39:04.679 --> 00:39:07.840
this is good to go. The citizens allowed to have

00:39:07.840 --> 00:39:10.940
this gun. We have all these regulations, all

00:39:10.940 --> 00:39:13.699
these laws that should keep something like from

00:39:13.699 --> 00:39:17.059
happening. But guess what? It happened. A legal

00:39:17.059 --> 00:39:20.940
gun owner got arrested. for buying a gun legally,

00:39:21.059 --> 00:39:23.480
and it was considered stolen from a police department.

00:39:23.739 --> 00:39:26.400
But yet, he was allowed to have it, even with

00:39:26.400 --> 00:39:30.619
all those background checks. Wow. But he's being

00:39:30.619 --> 00:39:32.320
told that he should have known it was stolen.

00:39:34.219 --> 00:39:36.440
But go ahead and tell me how we need more common

00:39:36.440 --> 00:39:42.500
sense gun laws. There's a simple way to get around

00:39:42.500 --> 00:39:47.820
all this. Get rid of the police or off -duty

00:39:47.820 --> 00:39:53.010
exemptions. For any firearm law. Yeah. Then you'll

00:39:53.010 --> 00:40:02.349
see 99 % of them go poof. Yeah. Yeah, that's.

00:40:03.630 --> 00:40:07.469
He still got charged even after they were able

00:40:07.469 --> 00:40:12.489
to prove that. Yes, he got held in jail, went

00:40:12.489 --> 00:40:15.190
before a judge and got denied bond. No bond.

00:40:15.489 --> 00:40:19.599
Sorry. Sucks to be you. He did nothing wrong.

00:40:19.679 --> 00:40:24.460
Did he get a massive paycheck? Uh, this is recent.

00:40:24.719 --> 00:40:28.480
I don't know if he did or not. But he will in

00:40:28.480 --> 00:40:32.380
the end. Oh, God, yes. If that judge knowingly

00:40:32.380 --> 00:40:36.500
jailed someone that did not commit a crime, then

00:40:36.500 --> 00:40:38.920
that judge should be disbarred and that guy should

00:40:38.920 --> 00:40:42.900
be... Oh, absolutely. But like I said, you have

00:40:42.900 --> 00:40:47.389
judges... Yeah. Oh God. Yeah. But you got laws

00:40:47.389 --> 00:40:49.650
on the book that sit there and say, oh, the police

00:40:49.650 --> 00:40:52.050
department can't be held accountable for their

00:40:52.050 --> 00:40:54.250
actions, even if they're a hundred percent wrong.

00:40:57.099 --> 00:41:01.119
I mean, there's times where things shouldn't

00:41:01.119 --> 00:41:03.400
be held accountable, like in domestics or something,

00:41:03.539 --> 00:41:05.699
because you have to make an arrest regardless

00:41:05.699 --> 00:41:07.860
because you don't want to come back later and

00:41:07.860 --> 00:41:12.360
find out boo -boo shot is boo, and now she's

00:41:12.360 --> 00:41:14.280
dead, and now they're looking at you like, why

00:41:14.280 --> 00:41:15.800
didn't you arrest him? Well, I didn't have any

00:41:15.800 --> 00:41:18.559
probable cause at the time. Well, there's laws

00:41:18.559 --> 00:41:20.880
that let you get around that, so that way that

00:41:20.880 --> 00:41:25.900
shouldn't happen. Yeah. But, you know, yeah.

00:41:26.360 --> 00:41:28.340
We don't need more laws. We just need to enforce

00:41:28.340 --> 00:41:30.980
what's actually on the books and things like

00:41:30.980 --> 00:41:34.639
that will start happening. Yes, if we actually

00:41:34.639 --> 00:41:37.760
did that. This is the problem with any sort of

00:41:37.760 --> 00:41:40.800
registry that is government run is they are going

00:41:40.800 --> 00:41:43.619
to fuck up and someday they're going to hold

00:41:43.619 --> 00:41:46.320
you accountable and you did nothing wrong. This

00:41:46.320 --> 00:41:48.639
is the clearest example I can think of. This

00:41:48.639 --> 00:41:51.440
is why, and I hate to say it, but instead of

00:41:51.440 --> 00:41:54.039
a registry, it should be the case of you should

00:41:54.039 --> 00:41:56.460
have people that are well -trained. responsible

00:41:56.460 --> 00:42:00.179
for their stuff on their property and hold those

00:42:00.179 --> 00:42:02.119
people accountable when they do break the law

00:42:02.119 --> 00:42:05.380
you go to jail for a long ass time you actually

00:42:05.380 --> 00:42:08.440
commit a violent crime yeah make it make it so

00:42:08.440 --> 00:42:10.619
guess what you gotta work you gotta go back to

00:42:10.619 --> 00:42:12.539
labor camps or some shit or you gotta fix all

00:42:12.539 --> 00:42:16.199
of our highways bring back what um what was it

00:42:16.199 --> 00:42:18.500
theodore roosevelt gangs and all that theodore

00:42:18.500 --> 00:42:20.480
roosevelt did we're basically using using the

00:42:20.480 --> 00:42:22.639
people that were jailed to rebuild everything

00:42:23.179 --> 00:42:25.500
It's like, wow, if you got to do 30 years hard

00:42:25.500 --> 00:42:27.800
labor for assaulting someone with a firearm that

00:42:27.800 --> 00:42:29.420
you didn't even own, like, ah, maybe I'll think

00:42:29.420 --> 00:42:31.400
twice about it. You got to make examples of a

00:42:31.400 --> 00:42:35.440
few people. I hate to say it, but you got it.

00:42:35.440 --> 00:42:38.199
Well, that's okay. I mean, when it comes to registries,

00:42:38.280 --> 00:42:42.019
you know, the shit's dangerous anyways, because

00:42:42.019 --> 00:42:45.480
you had more people that were Jews that died

00:42:45.480 --> 00:42:49.039
in other countries because a, they had better

00:42:49.039 --> 00:42:53.349
registries. Unlike Germany. Countries where they

00:42:53.349 --> 00:42:56.170
had really good registries on the Jews and everything.

00:42:56.590 --> 00:42:59.969
Guess where the highest mortality rate was in

00:42:59.969 --> 00:43:05.050
those countries. So, yes, registries are great.

00:43:05.369 --> 00:43:11.510
Yeah. Sarcasm if you didn't hear it. What? Oh.

00:43:13.250 --> 00:43:21.079
Yeah. All right. So we've got. The issue of concealed

00:43:21.079 --> 00:43:25.059
carry reciprocity. Is this something that needs

00:43:25.059 --> 00:43:28.280
to be a national standard or a state -by -state

00:43:28.280 --> 00:43:34.579
issue? It's... I know our president... It's something

00:43:34.579 --> 00:43:39.559
that like... Oh, sorry, you go. Yes. I know our

00:43:39.559 --> 00:43:42.679
president has stated he wants to see concealed

00:43:42.679 --> 00:43:45.380
carry be something that works just like a driver's

00:43:45.380 --> 00:43:49.289
license. A national baseline and... Yes, the

00:43:49.289 --> 00:43:53.710
vast majority of people that do carry also believe

00:43:53.710 --> 00:43:58.829
it should apply nationally. Because most states

00:43:58.829 --> 00:44:02.030
that have a concealed carry program, it's really

00:44:02.030 --> 00:44:05.469
not that different across the board. The biggest

00:44:05.469 --> 00:44:08.550
issue is the state -by -state restrictions on

00:44:08.550 --> 00:44:12.289
the guns itself. So if they just settle on a

00:44:12.289 --> 00:44:18.110
mid -ground, then you go with that. Ohio actually

00:44:18.110 --> 00:44:22.530
has a very good baseline for what can and can't

00:44:22.530 --> 00:44:26.329
be done with the carry stuff. Yes, I'm a little

00:44:26.329 --> 00:44:28.949
biased, but at the same time, a lot of other

00:44:28.949 --> 00:44:34.610
states refer to Ohio for their stuff. Ohio's

00:44:34.610 --> 00:44:39.550
got 23 states. That says something. Do you guys

00:44:39.550 --> 00:44:43.829
require a class or anything? We used to. We just

00:44:43.829 --> 00:44:47.360
went to... We just went to permitless carry a

00:44:47.360 --> 00:44:52.119
constitutional carry. Yeah. I mean, that's fine

00:44:52.119 --> 00:44:53.900
too, but I think like if you're going to do a

00:44:53.900 --> 00:44:56.519
concealed carry, somebody should take a, you

00:44:56.519 --> 00:44:59.119
know, people should take a class. And I taught

00:44:59.119 --> 00:45:02.579
the class for a while. It used to be 12 hours.

00:45:02.599 --> 00:45:05.519
Then they dumbed it down to eight hours. But

00:45:05.519 --> 00:45:09.400
to, to obtain the permit, you still have to take

00:45:09.400 --> 00:45:12.400
a class, but you can carry within the state.

00:45:12.969 --> 00:45:18.409
Without a permit, as a state says. How many hours

00:45:18.409 --> 00:45:20.829
of that was you touching your nipples? Only two.

00:45:22.429 --> 00:45:26.710
Oh, okay. One hour in the class and one hour

00:45:26.710 --> 00:45:30.750
at the range. Because I had to demonstrate proper

00:45:30.750 --> 00:45:33.389
alignment technique, you know, just right there

00:45:33.389 --> 00:45:38.050
at the target, you know. Fair enough. Just got

00:45:38.050 --> 00:45:42.820
to put that out there. HR 38, I think it's Senate

00:45:42.820 --> 00:45:47.880
Bill 65, are the two constitutional concealed

00:45:47.880 --> 00:45:52.139
carry reciprocity act. Those are still on the

00:45:52.139 --> 00:45:55.099
House calendars, but there is Senate gridlock.

00:45:55.239 --> 00:45:58.239
It looks like it needs 60 votes. Not sure if

00:45:58.239 --> 00:46:01.440
we're going to get it. Law enforcement groups

00:46:01.440 --> 00:46:05.159
like the FOP actually oppose this, because why

00:46:05.159 --> 00:46:09.659
wouldn't they? Dick bags. Right. so it would

00:46:09.659 --> 00:46:12.219
these are also the same douches that sit there

00:46:12.219 --> 00:46:17.440
and be like oh you know officer dirtbag he yeah

00:46:17.440 --> 00:46:19.559
he messed up big time but we should really give

00:46:19.559 --> 00:46:21.880
them her job back because the police department

00:46:21.880 --> 00:46:25.199
fucked up the paperwork but then you have officer

00:46:25.199 --> 00:46:28.960
not so bad well they've lost their job and well

00:46:28.960 --> 00:46:30.599
we're not going to help them because you know

00:46:30.599 --> 00:46:35.539
did you just say awesome yeah have you hit that

00:46:35.539 --> 00:46:39.250
part of the the night I didn't think so, but

00:46:39.250 --> 00:46:43.210
maybe I did. Yeah. I mean, we've, we've got cops

00:46:43.210 --> 00:46:44.869
out there sleeping with the entire police force,

00:46:44.949 --> 00:46:47.909
including the dog and they, they lose their job,

00:46:47.969 --> 00:46:50.409
but the other ones who beat half the police force

00:46:50.409 --> 00:46:53.190
and the dog still get to keep their job. So it's,

00:46:53.190 --> 00:46:56.289
it's kind of funny how that works, but the way

00:46:56.289 --> 00:46:59.030
this is set up, uh, the national concealed carry

00:46:59.030 --> 00:47:01.550
reciprocity would honor out of state permits,

00:47:01.630 --> 00:47:05.269
just like a driver's license. Uh, the critics

00:47:05.269 --> 00:47:07.869
are saying that it. guts stricter states rules

00:47:07.869 --> 00:47:13.630
like we were talking about uh under 21 carry

00:47:13.630 --> 00:47:17.510
from permitless areas some states allow it and

00:47:17.510 --> 00:47:19.389
and that's one of the big issues where they're

00:47:19.389 --> 00:47:21.769
kind of saying oh we don't want them to do that

00:47:21.769 --> 00:47:23.550
in our state because we don't think it's safe

00:47:23.550 --> 00:47:29.989
and i i want people to just kind of let that

00:47:29.989 --> 00:47:33.670
sit for a second because an 18 year old they're

00:47:33.670 --> 00:47:38.340
saying is not capable of handling a firearm yet

00:47:38.340 --> 00:47:42.960
the 18 to 21 military yes that the 18 to 21 crowd

00:47:42.960 --> 00:47:46.940
is generally the ones on the front lines with

00:47:46.940 --> 00:47:50.199
some of the biggest baddest ass most powerful

00:47:50.199 --> 00:47:53.219
firearms in the arsenal of the united states

00:47:53.219 --> 00:47:58.059
military using them in combat situations well

00:47:58.059 --> 00:48:02.800
i might add to i have a good movie quip to that

00:48:02.800 --> 00:48:06.460
what's that go ahead Where I've watched a movie

00:48:06.460 --> 00:48:10.500
where there was American soldiers with a $2 million

00:48:10.500 --> 00:48:13.519
missile launcher system, and they launched it

00:48:13.519 --> 00:48:19.380
at a $20 ,000 Toyota pickup truck. Uh -huh. And

00:48:19.380 --> 00:48:21.360
those are people that are in charge of those

00:48:21.360 --> 00:48:24.880
weapons. Yeah. So, you know, hey. Do you know

00:48:24.880 --> 00:48:29.739
what I did when I was 20, when I had a $900 ,000

00:48:29.739 --> 00:48:33.119
missile at my disposal? Uh -huh. I put my penis

00:48:33.119 --> 00:48:36.579
on it. I can only. I was going to say, I was

00:48:36.579 --> 00:48:41.139
riding a B61 like I was going down in the movies.

00:48:41.940 --> 00:48:44.159
Yeah, except when I did it, the captain saw me,

00:48:44.199 --> 00:48:49.739
as well as the entire bridge crew. Of course

00:48:49.739 --> 00:48:55.099
they did. Yeah, that was a speech that he wasn't

00:48:55.099 --> 00:48:58.519
ready to give. No one ever said you weren't entertaining.

00:49:00.099 --> 00:49:02.380
But entertainment is consensual is a different

00:49:02.380 --> 00:49:06.489
story. That's the problem. Yeah. Hey, at least

00:49:06.489 --> 00:49:08.329
you didn't walk up to a female on the flight

00:49:08.329 --> 00:49:10.389
line holding a handful of screws going, hey,

00:49:10.409 --> 00:49:13.070
you want a screw? And she didn't see what you're

00:49:13.070 --> 00:49:14.710
holding at the time. So next thing you know,

00:49:14.769 --> 00:49:17.309
the sergeant's looking at you like, am I going

00:49:17.309 --> 00:49:20.110
to have to fill out paperwork? Well, okay. So

00:49:20.110 --> 00:49:22.949
what happened? I'll take a quick segue. What

00:49:22.949 --> 00:49:25.030
happened was we were doing ammunition onload

00:49:25.030 --> 00:49:27.650
before we headed out for a excursion to the Med

00:49:27.650 --> 00:49:32.670
or the Persian Gulf. We had ordnance going into

00:49:32.670 --> 00:49:34.510
the loader, and then one came up to the deck.

00:49:34.829 --> 00:49:37.469
So I was asked to go and stand near it to make

00:49:37.469 --> 00:49:40.789
sure nothing hit it. Logical. So there's this

00:49:40.789 --> 00:49:43.130
shiny glistening missile standing about waist

00:49:43.130 --> 00:49:45.650
high to me. And I'm just kind of looking at it,

00:49:45.670 --> 00:49:48.170
running my hand along this thing. I'm just like,

00:49:48.250 --> 00:49:51.070
oh, I've waited my entire life for this. And

00:49:51.070 --> 00:49:53.690
so I just went kind of full Beavis Monkey Boy

00:49:53.690 --> 00:49:57.869
on this thing for like 10 seconds. My ship, the

00:49:57.869 --> 00:50:01.710
way it was laid out with the missile deck, the

00:50:01.710 --> 00:50:05.280
bridge was like right here. 45 -degree angle

00:50:05.280 --> 00:50:07.780
line of sight to right where I was doing all

00:50:07.780 --> 00:50:11.239
of this. The captain comes down, red -faced,

00:50:11.440 --> 00:50:15.860
watery eyes, and just beelines it to me. And

00:50:15.860 --> 00:50:17.559
I'm just like, oh, I'm going to die, I'm going

00:50:17.559 --> 00:50:20.440
to die, I'm going to die. He comes over. And

00:50:20.440 --> 00:50:23.800
he's like, what the fuck are you doing? I'm just

00:50:23.800 --> 00:50:26.900
like, I'm going to play this off a stir. Sexually

00:50:26.900 --> 00:50:30.559
assaulting. And he says, you realize the entire

00:50:30.559 --> 00:50:32.920
bridge crew just saw that. I'm just like, I do

00:50:32.920 --> 00:50:39.260
now. he just kind of takes a second he's trying

00:50:39.260 --> 00:50:42.659
to not laugh and i know this and and a quick

00:50:42.659 --> 00:50:44.739
backstory i was in charge of the ship's primary

00:50:44.739 --> 00:50:46.900
self -defense radar systems so the captain really

00:50:46.900 --> 00:50:49.860
knew me and i think he regretted that fact that

00:50:49.860 --> 00:50:52.920
he really knew me but he's he's standing there

00:50:52.920 --> 00:50:56.280
he's like listen there are a lot of speeches

00:50:56.280 --> 00:50:58.380
that a commanding officer has to be ready to

00:50:58.380 --> 00:51:02.679
give when they assume command of the Telling

00:51:02.679 --> 00:51:04.360
my guys to keep their cock off the ordinance,

00:51:04.539 --> 00:51:06.360
that's not a speech I have ready right now, so

00:51:06.360 --> 00:51:09.960
please don't do it again. I'm just like, yes,

00:51:09.980 --> 00:51:20.760
sir. He stole my heart. He goes to turn away,

00:51:20.900 --> 00:51:23.260
and he just walks back over to me. He's like,

00:51:23.280 --> 00:51:27.199
wait, why the warhead? The exhaust port, I understand

00:51:27.199 --> 00:51:29.460
that. That makes sense. But why the warhead?

00:51:30.250 --> 00:51:32.889
oh wait he understood that part that's what he

00:51:32.889 --> 00:51:37.110
understood he was a cool dude let me let me just

00:51:37.110 --> 00:51:39.789
say that he was awesome but he's looking he's

00:51:39.789 --> 00:51:42.710
like why the warhead man i'm just like just want

00:51:42.710 --> 00:51:50.210
to feel the power sir yeah the most i ever did

00:51:50.210 --> 00:51:52.670
was take live munitions and load it drunk right

00:51:52.670 --> 00:51:55.269
but yeah i don't know if that i don't know if

00:51:55.269 --> 00:51:59.630
that even compares Watching those SPs run for

00:51:59.630 --> 00:52:01.389
their lives when they realized what I was doing.

00:52:02.090 --> 00:52:07.389
That was great. Oh, yeah. Getting that phone

00:52:07.389 --> 00:52:10.650
call while on a Vegas trip, getting blasted.

00:52:10.809 --> 00:52:12.789
Oh, yeah. Because I'm thinking, oh, it's my day

00:52:12.789 --> 00:52:15.090
off. And get a phone call from the senior master

00:52:15.090 --> 00:52:17.469
sergeant going, hey, the other sergeant's sick.

00:52:17.590 --> 00:52:19.369
I need you to come in and load these live munitions

00:52:19.369 --> 00:52:22.889
for the pilots because it's the last time they

00:52:22.889 --> 00:52:24.730
get to fly all this stuff and they really need

00:52:24.730 --> 00:52:29.800
to go up. Hey, unfortunately, I'm drunk. I don't

00:52:29.800 --> 00:52:32.340
care. Get your ass in here. You're awake. You're

00:52:32.340 --> 00:52:39.019
alive. Okay. Yeah, that was fun. My two guys,

00:52:39.039 --> 00:52:40.460
when I'm sitting there getting the checklist

00:52:40.460 --> 00:52:43.119
together, saw I was wobbling and were like, what

00:52:43.119 --> 00:52:47.340
are you doing? I'm drunk. Let's load these babies.

00:52:50.119 --> 00:52:52.579
Look back, the SPs that watched me walk on the

00:52:52.579 --> 00:52:54.480
flight line with my civvies on and my combat

00:52:54.480 --> 00:52:57.980
boots and line badge out and realized I was intoxicated

00:52:57.980 --> 00:53:03.599
were gone. Oh, I bet. Oh, yeah. All right. And

00:53:03.599 --> 00:53:05.840
then the senior master sergeant sitting at the

00:53:05.840 --> 00:53:11.139
doorway is standing watching me. Oh, yeah, the

00:53:11.139 --> 00:53:12.940
whole time. And I'm just like, dude, you're the

00:53:12.940 --> 00:53:15.119
one that called me in. I didn't want to do this.

00:53:15.239 --> 00:53:20.860
Oh, yeah. All right. right well we will try to

00:53:20.860 --> 00:53:24.460
get back on track uh where were we uh let's see

00:53:24.460 --> 00:53:28.480
the fop opposes all the permitless carry stuff

00:53:28.480 --> 00:53:34.559
so uh a lot of the critics are also stating that

00:53:34.559 --> 00:53:41.380
a nationwide reciprocity would uh gut oh we already

00:53:41.380 --> 00:53:43.519
talked about that i'm god i'm stupid tonight

00:53:43.519 --> 00:53:49.079
yeah so oh some some states are trying to tighten

00:53:49.079 --> 00:53:52.400
the reciprocity reviews so by doing that they

00:53:52.400 --> 00:53:56.500
think they can kind of make the overarching reciprocity

00:53:56.500 --> 00:53:59.280
requirements tighter to get more states in line

00:53:59.280 --> 00:54:02.760
with their requirements like no magazines over

00:54:02.760 --> 00:54:06.039
10 rounds and certain guns have to make the list

00:54:06.039 --> 00:54:08.619
and you know like massachusetts has you know

00:54:08.619 --> 00:54:10.460
you can use a flintlock or something like that

00:54:10.460 --> 00:54:17.090
exactly uh So that means I just carry around

00:54:17.090 --> 00:54:19.269
10 flintlocks. Gotcha. Well, they didn't say

00:54:19.269 --> 00:54:22.030
you couldn't use a cannon in your car. So there's

00:54:22.030 --> 00:54:27.030
also that. You use it like an A -10. You just

00:54:27.030 --> 00:54:31.829
got to speed up before you're fired. Yeehaw,

00:54:31.889 --> 00:54:34.630
chuckle fucks. All right, get ready to... All

00:54:34.630 --> 00:54:36.829
right, go ahead and gas it, Bubba. I'm getting

00:54:36.829 --> 00:54:41.369
ready to fire. So there's a lot of questions

00:54:41.369 --> 00:54:46.219
that need to be asked with this topic. Some people

00:54:46.219 --> 00:54:48.960
are saying nationwide carry equals a seamless

00:54:48.960 --> 00:54:52.039
road trip to freedom or it's going to turn into

00:54:52.039 --> 00:54:54.760
permitless chaos. I disagree with that second

00:54:54.760 --> 00:54:58.079
one because all the states where they said, oh,

00:54:58.179 --> 00:55:00.079
permitless carry is going to be just blood in

00:55:00.079 --> 00:55:02.639
the streets has yet to actually come to fruition.

00:55:03.579 --> 00:55:05.739
Those states are actually some of the lowest

00:55:05.739 --> 00:55:10.159
crime states in the country. Yeah, because the

00:55:10.159 --> 00:55:13.179
criminals know there's a good possibility that

00:55:13.179 --> 00:55:15.519
the citizen they're about to go rob has a weapon.

00:55:16.239 --> 00:55:20.380
That's why a majority of burglaries don't occur

00:55:20.380 --> 00:55:24.340
unless the people aren't home. Because just as

00:55:24.340 --> 00:55:27.179
much as the victim doesn't want to die, neither

00:55:27.179 --> 00:55:31.280
does the criminal. So it's easier to commit a

00:55:31.280 --> 00:55:33.500
crime if you know there's a high chance you're

00:55:33.500 --> 00:55:41.960
not going to die. Let's see. Crossing the state

00:55:41.960 --> 00:55:48.659
lines with your permit, the way it is now, you

00:55:48.659 --> 00:55:50.460
might as well pack a lawyer in your glove box,

00:55:50.619 --> 00:55:53.539
but if we get the nationwide carry, those kind

00:55:53.539 --> 00:55:59.000
of issues go away. Gun carry insurance, you don't

00:55:59.000 --> 00:56:02.360
think it goes away? Here's the problem. I live

00:56:02.360 --> 00:56:06.239
near New York State. The problem is, Even if

00:56:06.239 --> 00:56:08.659
it's legal for you to carry with it, they can

00:56:08.659 --> 00:56:10.340
still arrest you and detain you for up to three

00:56:10.340 --> 00:56:16.360
or four days. How? Because they can. What are

00:56:16.360 --> 00:56:19.820
you going to do about it? They have. Sue the

00:56:19.820 --> 00:56:21.940
shit out of them? Same thing with New Jersey.

00:56:22.079 --> 00:56:25.639
Does that save you from losing your job when

00:56:25.639 --> 00:56:29.519
you're arrested for a felony? That's one of the

00:56:29.519 --> 00:56:32.360
problems we have. It's like, great. You might

00:56:32.360 --> 00:56:36.320
be right, but... For the first while, you're

00:56:36.320 --> 00:56:39.099
not leaving. They just haven't arrested... Yeah,

00:56:39.179 --> 00:56:41.559
well, they just haven't arrested the wrong person.

00:56:41.760 --> 00:56:43.739
That's all. But see, this is part of the problem.

00:56:43.739 --> 00:56:47.099
Because I guess someone like me, that's... What

00:56:47.099 --> 00:56:48.900
happens if you can't afford to be out of work

00:56:48.900 --> 00:56:51.260
for several months and afford the lawyer and

00:56:51.260 --> 00:56:52.460
afford everything? But that's what I'm saying.

00:56:52.619 --> 00:56:54.280
This is part of the issue. But that's what I'm

00:56:54.280 --> 00:56:57.219
saying. Even if you make it national reciprocity,

00:56:57.260 --> 00:56:59.699
even if you do all these things, there are still

00:56:59.699 --> 00:57:03.179
some counties, some... some areas, some police

00:57:03.179 --> 00:57:05.880
forces where they will arrest you because in

00:57:05.880 --> 00:57:08.159
their eyes, you're committing a felony. Even

00:57:08.159 --> 00:57:10.000
if it's wrong, even if they're a hundred percent

00:57:10.000 --> 00:57:13.420
wrong, it's still going to happen until they're

00:57:13.420 --> 00:57:15.719
held accountable. It's still going to be an issue.

00:57:15.820 --> 00:57:18.800
The two easiest ways to fix all this very, very

00:57:18.800 --> 00:57:22.139
simply should be any police force in the United

00:57:22.139 --> 00:57:25.820
States should all have to be using the same set

00:57:25.820 --> 00:57:28.420
of rules and same firearms as civilians. And

00:57:28.420 --> 00:57:30.610
that's that. All of a sudden, all of these laws,

00:57:30.710 --> 00:57:32.829
all of this, this entire discussion would go

00:57:32.829 --> 00:57:35.849
away because you would not have any officers

00:57:35.849 --> 00:57:39.010
arguing or any law enforcement agencies arguing

00:57:39.010 --> 00:57:40.610
about any of these laws. Say, nope, take them

00:57:40.610 --> 00:57:41.909
all back. We want to be able to carry what we

00:57:41.909 --> 00:57:44.670
want. It's like, ah, yes. When you treat people

00:57:44.670 --> 00:57:47.630
of equal, all of a sudden now you don't want

00:57:47.630 --> 00:57:50.630
the rules. Oh yeah. You know, so, but same thing

00:57:50.630 --> 00:57:52.010
with the national reciprocity, you'd have to

00:57:52.010 --> 00:57:53.670
get a lot of States, not only on board, but to

00:57:53.670 --> 00:57:55.590
understand that like, Just because you're traveling

00:57:55.590 --> 00:57:57.010
through New York and you don't like to have a

00:57:57.010 --> 00:58:01.590
17 -round Glock, stuff it. It's legal. But that's

00:58:01.590 --> 00:58:03.989
going to be the problem. Unless you tell judges,

00:58:04.110 --> 00:58:06.269
hey, if you bring charges on these people when

00:58:06.269 --> 00:58:08.690
they're not committing a crime federally, decide

00:58:08.690 --> 00:58:12.090
to bring charges, you are disbarred. Until they're

00:58:12.090 --> 00:58:13.710
held accountable, none of this matters. Because

00:58:13.710 --> 00:58:15.670
I hate to say it, what happens if a judge does

00:58:15.670 --> 00:58:17.530
arrest you? Let's go the whole way here. You

00:58:17.530 --> 00:58:19.489
drive through New York, and even though you are

00:58:19.489 --> 00:58:23.219
within federal law, and your home state's law,

00:58:23.280 --> 00:58:25.119
you drive through it, they arrest you, a judge

00:58:25.119 --> 00:58:28.920
prosecutes you, doesn't matter. Because by the

00:58:28.920 --> 00:58:31.460
time the federal government goes after them or

00:58:31.460 --> 00:58:33.559
the attorney general or whoever else, you've

00:58:33.559 --> 00:58:35.139
already lost your job, you're already in jail,

00:58:35.280 --> 00:58:37.460
you already have a record, your rights have already

00:58:37.460 --> 00:58:40.480
been removed. So even if you come back and sue

00:58:40.480 --> 00:58:42.360
and do everything, what happens if you lose your

00:58:42.360 --> 00:58:44.019
business? What happens if you are a business

00:58:44.019 --> 00:58:46.139
owner or someone that takes care of people or

00:58:46.139 --> 00:58:48.960
have other things to do outside of simply...

00:58:49.710 --> 00:58:51.130
enjoying your rights, I hate to say that, but

00:58:51.130 --> 00:58:53.369
people have other obligations outside of that,

00:58:53.449 --> 00:58:57.230
you still lose. So unless there is some... That's

00:58:57.230 --> 00:58:59.530
where militia starts coming in. That's where

00:58:59.530 --> 00:59:04.530
what? Yep. That's where militia's come in. Because

00:59:04.530 --> 00:59:06.530
remember, part of the Second Amendment is the

00:59:06.530 --> 00:59:08.929
right to defend yourself against tyrannical government.

00:59:09.349 --> 00:59:11.570
Now you're starting to get into the whole tyrannical

00:59:11.570 --> 00:59:13.769
government side of things. I'm not saying that's

00:59:13.769 --> 00:59:16.909
what should happen, but that's the whole point

00:59:16.909 --> 00:59:18.920
of the Second Amendment. Unfortunately, I don't

00:59:18.920 --> 00:59:20.260
know if you know this, not every state allows

00:59:20.260 --> 00:59:25.280
a militia. Well, that's a violation of the Constitution.

00:59:25.539 --> 00:59:28.400
Look up right now, look up the Massachusetts

00:59:28.400 --> 00:59:31.519
Constitution and look up their laws on a militia.

00:59:31.519 --> 00:59:34.059
If you form a militia, you are automatically,

00:59:34.280 --> 00:59:37.760
automatically sent to the governor and you are

00:59:37.760 --> 00:59:40.019
basically now a government, like law enforcement

00:59:40.019 --> 00:59:43.159
agency or a military agency. So you cannot, as

00:59:43.159 --> 00:59:45.059
an independent, actually form a militia. You

00:59:45.059 --> 00:59:47.829
cannot. Coming out of Massachusetts, you know

00:59:47.829 --> 00:59:50.730
how much that hurts my soul. Oh, trust me. I

00:59:50.730 --> 00:59:55.869
live in this hellhole. I know. It sucks. But

00:59:55.869 --> 00:59:59.329
yet the people are so against fascists, but yet

00:59:59.329 --> 01:00:02.150
they don't take the time to look at their own

01:00:02.150 --> 01:00:05.170
government. People forget we voted for a state

01:00:05.170 --> 01:00:07.670
audit at 70 % of the people and they just said,

01:00:07.670 --> 01:00:14.380
no, fuck you. And they ignored it. You guys got

01:00:14.380 --> 01:00:17.219
to understand. I love it. Massachusetts is its

01:00:17.219 --> 01:00:19.139
own thing, and that's why they're really pissed

01:00:19.139 --> 01:00:21.719
that Nick Shirley is here to uncover fraud, and

01:00:21.719 --> 01:00:23.059
they've already threatened to arrest him just

01:00:23.059 --> 01:00:25.679
for being here. So you thought it was bad in

01:00:25.679 --> 01:00:28.420
Minneapolis? Just wait. I have lived in Boston

01:00:28.420 --> 01:00:31.320
my entire life. I know this place. It's way fucking

01:00:31.320 --> 01:00:34.260
worse. How do you arrest somebody for just being

01:00:34.260 --> 01:00:36.880
there? What kind of shenanigans is that? Because

01:00:36.880 --> 01:00:38.500
they're saying, oh, he's intimidating people.

01:00:39.099 --> 01:00:41.179
And he's going after people. He's going after,

01:00:41.300 --> 01:00:43.260
you know, disaffected minorities and all this

01:00:43.260 --> 01:00:44.980
other crap. They're going to say whatever they

01:00:44.980 --> 01:00:51.480
can. That's effectively how it works. Wow. Yeah,

01:00:52.039 --> 01:00:54.079
that's when you cause some serious problems.

01:00:54.340 --> 01:00:56.199
Because you're going to piss off the populace

01:00:56.199 --> 01:00:57.860
enough that at some point you're going to be

01:00:57.860 --> 01:01:00.320
like AOC running for your life. Because all of

01:01:00.320 --> 01:01:02.460
a sudden all these people on January 6th bust

01:01:02.460 --> 01:01:15.750
in the building. Yeah. Wow. Oh, boy. So. So there

01:01:15.750 --> 01:01:17.789
was one point I wanted to bring up. Yeah. Yeah.

01:01:17.789 --> 01:01:19.909
Go ahead. We're talking about that. You're talking

01:01:19.909 --> 01:01:23.389
about are we going to need to have basically

01:01:23.389 --> 01:01:25.409
a lawyer in the glove box when we go across state

01:01:25.409 --> 01:01:28.389
lines and going to other states? Some states

01:01:28.389 --> 01:01:30.989
like Massachusetts are talking about making a

01:01:30.989 --> 01:01:33.550
requirement to have carry insurance where the

01:01:33.550 --> 01:01:36.610
idea is you have to have legally carry insurance

01:01:36.610 --> 01:01:39.070
in order to carry in addition to the license.

01:01:39.710 --> 01:01:41.889
That way, if something does happen, there's legal

01:01:41.889 --> 01:01:45.650
representation. But that's the thing. Just like

01:01:45.650 --> 01:01:49.150
you can't force a person to have health insurance.

01:01:49.449 --> 01:01:53.130
You can. Ask Obama. A Second Amendment. Yeah,

01:01:53.289 --> 01:01:56.150
well, they finally got rid of that. But anyway.

01:01:56.150 --> 01:01:58.570
But they still did it. They've made car insurance

01:01:58.570 --> 01:02:03.670
a mandatory thing. Yeah, but driving a car is

01:02:03.670 --> 01:02:06.309
not a right. That's a privilege. There's a difference.

01:02:07.239 --> 01:02:10.400
There is a difference. You being alive is not

01:02:10.400 --> 01:02:12.519
a privilege. Ask California about that one. They

01:02:12.519 --> 01:02:15.780
give licenses out to anybody. Yes, they do. Oh,

01:02:15.920 --> 01:02:18.119
they're freaking idiots, too. But, you know,

01:02:18.239 --> 01:02:21.179
I have the hard R for them, but I can't say it,

01:02:21.280 --> 01:02:23.460
apparently. So here's something you guys don't

01:02:23.460 --> 01:02:25.679
know. Did you know Massachusetts has had state

01:02:25.679 --> 01:02:28.880
-funded health care since the mid -2000s? So

01:02:28.880 --> 01:02:30.420
guess what? In Massachusetts, you pretty much

01:02:30.420 --> 01:02:33.820
have to have health care. We pay into taxes into

01:02:33.820 --> 01:02:41.780
that system. Yeah. So everything you're saying,

01:02:41.820 --> 01:02:44.380
like people don't have to have it? Well, unfortunately,

01:02:44.639 --> 01:02:52.280
yeah. We have to. Essentially. Because they do

01:02:52.280 --> 01:02:54.679
not accept cash. It has to be through an insurance.

01:02:54.860 --> 01:02:56.119
You can't just go to the doctor and be like,

01:02:56.159 --> 01:02:57.760
oh, I'll give you money. No. What's your carrier?

01:02:57.820 --> 01:02:59.760
What's your insurance? Well, I don't have it.

01:02:59.820 --> 01:03:01.199
Well, then sign up on the connector. Go home.

01:03:02.820 --> 01:03:07.480
No. The best part is, is technically, if they're

01:03:07.480 --> 01:03:08.880
doing that and they tell you you've got to go

01:03:08.880 --> 01:03:11.480
home, now you have a lawsuit because of the fact

01:03:11.480 --> 01:03:13.679
that they're not legally allowed to turn you

01:03:13.679 --> 01:03:15.380
away. If you're not in an emergency room, they

01:03:15.380 --> 01:03:18.159
don't have to take care of you. Yeah, that's

01:03:18.159 --> 01:03:20.780
true. Urgent care, they have a right because

01:03:20.780 --> 01:03:25.619
they're more of a private deal. Yeah, it's definitely

01:03:25.619 --> 01:03:27.480
urgent care, but I'm just saying, if you go to

01:03:27.480 --> 01:03:29.219
the ER and they tell you that crap, you're like,

01:03:29.320 --> 01:03:34.219
ha ha! ER, but that's part of the problem, is

01:03:34.219 --> 01:03:36.489
when you have a state I guess what I'm getting

01:03:36.489 --> 01:03:37.789
at, what I'm trying to make the point is you

01:03:37.789 --> 01:03:39.650
can make all the laws you want, but if there

01:03:39.650 --> 01:03:41.750
are judges and law enforcement officers not held

01:03:41.750 --> 01:03:44.510
accountable to enforce and abide by the laws,

01:03:44.650 --> 01:03:47.969
none of this matters. They're going to ban whatever

01:03:47.969 --> 01:03:49.110
they want to, and then they're going to wait

01:03:49.110 --> 01:03:50.730
five or ten years for the political system to

01:03:50.730 --> 01:03:52.570
catch up and say, oh, by the way, that was wrong.

01:03:53.289 --> 01:03:56.090
Oops, sorry, whoopsie, we infringed on your rights

01:03:56.090 --> 01:03:57.590
for the last ten years, have a fucking cookie.

01:03:58.250 --> 01:04:05.539
That's what they do. Yeah. Yep. yeah whatever

01:04:05.539 --> 01:04:07.920
law they come out in this i guess you know whatever

01:04:07.920 --> 01:04:11.340
i'm unlikely unlike everyone else in this area

01:04:11.340 --> 01:04:14.280
they if i got lost my job because i'd stood up

01:04:14.280 --> 01:04:16.860
for my rights i can just be like so take my car

01:04:16.860 --> 01:04:20.019
away oh well i can still live my life and i still

01:04:20.019 --> 01:04:30.599
have a house so yep so um one other point i wanted

01:04:30.599 --> 01:04:34.760
to ask about on the uh Concealed carry reciprocity.

01:04:35.119 --> 01:04:38.420
Do you think that if it were put into place that

01:04:38.420 --> 01:04:41.699
it would end the patchwork confusion that exists?

01:04:41.820 --> 01:04:47.739
I think yes. But would it kind of effectively

01:04:47.739 --> 01:04:51.739
override local safety standards that states and

01:04:51.739 --> 01:04:55.460
municipalities have in place and thereby increase

01:04:55.460 --> 01:04:57.719
the risk of a negative officer encounter if you're

01:04:57.719 --> 01:05:02.849
stopped? Or do you think it would have to have

01:05:02.849 --> 01:05:08.489
some kind of stipulation? If there was a nationwide

01:05:08.489 --> 01:05:12.170
standard that everyone agreed to and everyone

01:05:12.170 --> 01:05:14.789
said, okay, as long as you're meeting this standard,

01:05:14.989 --> 01:05:18.210
any laws in those states, if you're committing

01:05:18.210 --> 01:05:20.929
a crime, fine, but because we're holding it to

01:05:20.929 --> 01:05:24.110
this standard and everybody changed to that standard,

01:05:24.289 --> 01:05:28.469
it would work. But that's not going to happen.

01:05:28.550 --> 01:05:31.880
That will never happen. I guess one of the ways

01:05:31.880 --> 01:05:33.360
people have to think about it. It becomes a moot

01:05:33.360 --> 01:05:35.440
point. Oh, yeah. One of the ways people have

01:05:35.440 --> 01:05:37.559
to think about it, they compare U .S. policing

01:05:37.559 --> 01:05:39.880
to other countries they don't understand. We

01:05:39.880 --> 01:05:43.659
are 50 countries in a trench coat. And every

01:05:43.659 --> 01:05:46.119
other country, they just have one set of laws.

01:05:46.679 --> 01:05:48.260
And that's what they do. That's what they deal

01:05:48.260 --> 01:05:50.300
with. Whereas that is part of the problem with

01:05:50.300 --> 01:05:51.900
policing, where you might have a police officer

01:05:51.900 --> 01:05:54.159
move from one state to another or even a different

01:05:54.159 --> 01:05:56.159
county, different town, whoever else is, and

01:05:56.159 --> 01:05:58.480
things might change. Now, even, for instance,

01:05:58.519 --> 01:06:01.489
in my state. There are areas where they used

01:06:01.489 --> 01:06:04.230
to be before what happened in New York. There

01:06:04.230 --> 01:06:07.210
was the Bruin case. There were some towns that

01:06:07.210 --> 01:06:08.889
were not issued, meaning they would not issue

01:06:08.889 --> 01:06:10.429
a firearm license unless you absolutely needed

01:06:10.429 --> 01:06:12.469
it. Some were shall issue that might be conditional

01:06:12.469 --> 01:06:14.869
or a will issue, which means as long as you pass

01:06:14.869 --> 01:06:16.789
the requirements, you get issued a firearm license.

01:06:17.489 --> 01:06:20.289
And sometimes it'd be confusion because police

01:06:20.289 --> 01:06:22.369
officers ask you in this town, how the hell did

01:06:22.369 --> 01:06:23.809
you get a license to carry? It's like, well,

01:06:23.869 --> 01:06:28.139
excuse me, officer. I only passed the test. You

01:06:28.139 --> 01:06:30.000
know, be careful. Whereas other towns, they'd

01:06:30.000 --> 01:06:31.800
be like, I don't give a fuck. Like, you can carry

01:06:31.800 --> 01:06:34.659
as long as you have the license. Same thing with

01:06:34.659 --> 01:06:35.900
what you're talking about there, where if there

01:06:35.900 --> 01:06:37.480
was a national standard, you would get rid of

01:06:37.480 --> 01:06:40.579
a lot of the confusion and a lot of issues, and

01:06:40.579 --> 01:06:42.380
they'd have a set training standard. So it'd

01:06:42.380 --> 01:06:44.820
be the same interaction, same every time. Now

01:06:44.820 --> 01:06:46.280
you can tell everybody that's carrying, hey,

01:06:46.360 --> 01:06:48.980
this is what's expected. This is what you should

01:06:48.980 --> 01:06:51.000
do. Here's our set standard for a law enforcement

01:06:51.000 --> 01:06:52.619
interaction when you're carrying either in your

01:06:52.619 --> 01:06:55.300
vehicle. on your person this is where you you

01:06:55.300 --> 01:06:56.820
keep your identification that's where you keep

01:06:56.820 --> 01:06:58.519
everything else that way you minimize the risks

01:06:58.519 --> 01:07:03.780
of any sort of um even just like a simple miscommunication

01:07:03.780 --> 01:07:05.760
because i've seen some instances where people

01:07:05.760 --> 01:07:08.159
travel to another state and they might not understand

01:07:08.159 --> 01:07:11.800
that in that state you have to immediately identify

01:07:11.800 --> 01:07:13.980
you have a firearm and where it is you must keep

01:07:13.980 --> 01:07:15.920
your hands here must whereas other states like

01:07:15.920 --> 01:07:18.920
you go to texas in some places they're like you

01:07:18.920 --> 01:07:21.340
have a firearm cool i got nine who the fuck cares

01:07:21.800 --> 01:07:24.639
Like I breathe air too, buddy. So it's kind of

01:07:24.639 --> 01:07:28.380
a, at least if you have that consistent standard,

01:07:28.639 --> 01:07:31.199
but an expectation of not only what people are

01:07:31.199 --> 01:07:33.860
doing, but how to handle it and what's expected

01:07:33.860 --> 01:07:35.900
to give to the officer, what information and

01:07:35.900 --> 01:07:40.800
method you would reduce so many unneeded interactions.

01:07:41.300 --> 01:07:44.179
I think a lot of people feel a lot safer. So

01:07:44.179 --> 01:07:47.099
there's no reason why to not have that happen,

01:07:47.179 --> 01:07:49.699
especially when I think a national safety standard

01:07:49.699 --> 01:07:52.820
for that. Would probably help fill in a couple

01:07:52.820 --> 01:07:54.980
of gaps in some areas because I know it should

01:07:54.980 --> 01:07:56.980
be the case of, look, everybody that's a firearm

01:07:56.980 --> 01:07:59.699
owner, training's on you. You have to learn to

01:07:59.699 --> 01:08:01.500
be proficient with your firearm and understand

01:08:01.500 --> 01:08:04.400
the law. But at least if there was somewhat of

01:08:04.400 --> 01:08:07.739
a national standard, it would be, hey, can you

01:08:07.739 --> 01:08:10.519
not be a fucking idiot? Hey, cool. Are you able

01:08:10.519 --> 01:08:13.219
to carry this safely? Cool. Can you handle it

01:08:13.219 --> 01:08:15.340
and understand how to operate your firearm? Cool.

01:08:15.860 --> 01:08:19.819
Okay. At least you have an IQ of over 70. We're

01:08:19.819 --> 01:08:24.189
good. You know how awesome it would have been

01:08:24.189 --> 01:08:29.850
as a cop to sit there and just come across a

01:08:29.850 --> 01:08:31.550
citizen and be like, hey, do you have a gun?

01:08:31.949 --> 01:08:35.350
Yes, sir, I do. What do you got? And just be

01:08:35.350 --> 01:08:37.270
able to shoot the shit for a second and go, oh,

01:08:37.369 --> 01:08:40.130
let me see that. Oh, man, this thing's great.

01:08:40.390 --> 01:08:42.930
There you go, buddy. You know how awesome that

01:08:42.930 --> 01:08:44.850
would have been? No, instead I got to sit there

01:08:44.850 --> 01:08:46.710
and treat them like a freaking criminal as soon

01:08:46.710 --> 01:08:52.289
as I hear they have a gun. Yeah. You know, the

01:08:52.289 --> 01:08:54.470
fact that we give driver's licenses to people

01:08:54.470 --> 01:08:56.550
who definitely should not have driver's licenses

01:08:56.550 --> 01:09:01.029
also worries me. And I wonder if this would fall

01:09:01.029 --> 01:09:05.430
into that category. So that's kind of like the

01:09:05.430 --> 01:09:08.430
only big reservation I have about this. I see

01:09:08.430 --> 01:09:11.149
people every day who drive who have zero business

01:09:11.149 --> 01:09:15.069
driving. You've got bad drivers. There are bad

01:09:15.069 --> 01:09:19.010
gun owners. And yes, it always comes back to

01:09:19.010 --> 01:09:22.420
personal responsibility. But God. Damn. Some

01:09:22.420 --> 01:09:25.640
of these drivers. Yes, Gibbs. No, I actually

01:09:25.640 --> 01:09:27.180
have the opinion of, I'll be honest with you,

01:09:27.220 --> 01:09:29.979
our driving standards are fucking terrible. And

01:09:29.979 --> 01:09:32.180
I think across the board, every state, they should

01:09:32.180 --> 01:09:34.819
be raised, especially if I will be intellectually

01:09:34.819 --> 01:09:36.939
consistent. If your driver's license is allowed

01:09:36.939 --> 01:09:39.039
in every state, there should be national standards.

01:09:39.460 --> 01:09:42.920
Because I am the victim of, in this area, in

01:09:42.920 --> 01:09:45.399
my fucking city, there were people that were

01:09:45.399 --> 01:09:47.300
illegal immigrants working at the RMV and they

01:09:47.300 --> 01:09:49.399
gave away over 10 ,000 driver's licenses to people

01:09:49.399 --> 01:09:52.170
that never took a test. I live in an area where

01:09:52.170 --> 01:09:55.270
my automotive insurance is double from the next

01:09:55.270 --> 01:09:58.050
town over. Anywhere else. Because I live here.

01:09:58.409 --> 01:10:01.050
Because they decided to commit crimes and break

01:10:01.050 --> 01:10:05.369
the law. Because of that, there are so many dangerous

01:10:05.369 --> 01:10:08.029
people in this area that cannot drive at all.

01:10:08.329 --> 01:10:10.390
And there's no fucking standard. Nobody cares.

01:10:11.130 --> 01:10:14.149
So, I 100 % agree on there's a lot of people

01:10:14.149 --> 01:10:15.590
that shouldn't be fucking driving. And there

01:10:15.590 --> 01:10:18.390
should be higher standards. Especially once you

01:10:18.390 --> 01:10:21.439
retire. For the love of God. If you're over the

01:10:21.439 --> 01:10:24.039
age of 65 and still driving, you should be tested

01:10:24.039 --> 01:10:28.899
regularly. Because, Jesus Christ. So I would

01:10:28.899 --> 01:10:30.579
agree. Just do both. National standards for both.

01:10:30.659 --> 01:10:33.420
It's not that hard. Especially if you make them

01:10:33.420 --> 01:10:42.500
reasonable. Yep. Yeah. God, I had another point

01:10:42.500 --> 01:10:45.479
I was going to make, but I lost it. I guess constitutional

01:10:45.479 --> 01:10:49.619
carry would be nice if people were responsible.

01:10:52.410 --> 01:10:56.890
And I think that's a necessary thing that's needed

01:10:56.890 --> 01:11:01.409
to have some level. Yeah, very, very much. I

01:11:01.409 --> 01:11:03.789
want to move into the last thing that I had in

01:11:03.789 --> 01:11:06.590
the notes here for tonight. And this one's going

01:11:06.590 --> 01:11:13.109
to be touchy. School safety pushes, arming the

01:11:13.109 --> 01:11:19.369
staff and mandating training. A lot of states.

01:11:20.109 --> 01:11:22.850
are starting to require the door open. Yeah.

01:11:23.270 --> 01:11:25.529
A lot of states are starting to require K through

01:11:25.529 --> 01:11:29.350
12 firearm safety education. That includes safe

01:11:29.350 --> 01:11:33.510
storage. Don't touch found firearms with no live

01:11:33.510 --> 01:11:37.890
fire. Some schools are distributing storage information.

01:11:38.090 --> 01:11:40.350
Others are just upholding public place bands.

01:11:41.789 --> 01:11:44.310
Administrative surveys are showing a lot of opposition

01:11:44.310 --> 01:11:47.909
to arming teachers. Others are showing the teachers

01:11:47.909 --> 01:11:52.430
are okay with this. I know in my area, the vast

01:11:52.430 --> 01:11:55.130
majority of teachers are not only very okay,

01:11:55.210 --> 01:11:57.970
but they're taking it upon themselves with permission

01:11:57.970 --> 01:12:01.029
to not only get armed, but get funded training.

01:12:01.970 --> 01:12:06.890
I love and support that idea. That's awesome.

01:12:07.850 --> 01:12:11.810
There was a focus on prevention via the laws

01:12:11.810 --> 01:12:15.800
and trauma informed approaches. I liken that

01:12:15.800 --> 01:12:18.760
to abstinence -only sex education, and we've

01:12:18.760 --> 01:12:21.100
seen exactly how well that has worked out over

01:12:21.100 --> 01:12:27.359
the years. Yeah. I'm a product of sex education.

01:12:28.539 --> 01:12:32.180
Are you a product of sex education? I'm a product

01:12:32.180 --> 01:12:35.619
of... I think my mom just wanted a back rub.

01:12:39.920 --> 01:12:42.659
Apparently my mother wanted to go in the barn.

01:12:45.310 --> 01:12:48.369
What's that, Gibbs? I said I usually skip that

01:12:48.369 --> 01:12:53.710
part of the video. Yep, just get to the good

01:12:53.710 --> 01:12:57.609
stuff. So mandatory classes would be practical

01:12:57.609 --> 01:13:04.489
prep or would that be normalizing guns, gun exposure

01:13:04.489 --> 01:13:07.930
to kids too early? I don't think that that's

01:13:07.930 --> 01:13:11.229
really a thing. All of my kids shot by the time

01:13:11.229 --> 01:13:14.140
they were five. Go ahead. I was going to say,

01:13:14.159 --> 01:13:15.460
wasn't there a time in this country's history

01:13:15.460 --> 01:13:17.520
where most kids took a shooting class by like

01:13:17.520 --> 01:13:20.539
fourth or fifth grade? I have that in the notes.

01:13:20.680 --> 01:13:25.239
Yes. Yeah. It's literally the next page down.

01:13:25.340 --> 01:13:31.359
But yeah. Teaching don't touch is like telling

01:13:31.359 --> 01:13:34.800
toddlers not to eat glue. That's got mixed results.

01:13:35.319 --> 01:13:37.560
I think a lot of that goes back to how they're

01:13:37.560 --> 01:13:41.500
taught in the home. My my youngest knows exactly

01:13:41.500 --> 01:13:43.720
what. has always known, especially when he was

01:13:43.720 --> 01:13:47.100
younger, what to do with a firearm. You could

01:13:47.100 --> 01:13:49.520
ask him at any point in his life, if you saw

01:13:49.520 --> 01:13:51.560
a gun, what would you do? He'd tell you, don't

01:13:51.560 --> 01:13:53.180
touch it, don't let anybody else touch it, tell

01:13:53.180 --> 01:13:55.500
someone to go find an adult. Simple as that.

01:13:57.319 --> 01:14:02.760
The deeper ethics on a lot of this is that many

01:14:02.760 --> 01:14:06.439
incidents are from family -owned firearms being

01:14:06.439 --> 01:14:08.939
improperly stored or allowing the kids to have

01:14:08.939 --> 01:14:12.000
improper access to them. I think a lot of this

01:14:12.000 --> 01:14:14.619
also goes into the mental health debate and that's

01:14:14.619 --> 01:14:16.880
probably a topic for a whole other issue or episode.

01:14:17.479 --> 01:14:22.100
Uh, but when it comes down to the school stuff,

01:14:22.220 --> 01:14:26.819
there's also a serious lack of on school premises,

01:14:26.920 --> 01:14:31.020
level safety and diversionary, um, resources,

01:14:31.359 --> 01:14:36.100
not just emotional and mental stuff, but access

01:14:36.100 --> 01:14:38.859
as well. Go ahead Gibbs. Well, I was going to

01:14:38.859 --> 01:14:42.619
say it's, It is a necessary evil of the world

01:14:42.619 --> 01:14:45.420
that unfortunately schools are targeted because

01:14:45.420 --> 01:14:48.939
we've been told for decades now it's a firearm

01:14:48.939 --> 01:14:51.380
-free zone, gun -free zone. Nothing's supposed

01:14:51.380 --> 01:14:53.279
to happen there. What that tells someone is that's

01:14:53.279 --> 01:14:55.420
a target. There's no one that's going to retaliate.

01:14:55.939 --> 01:14:57.859
How they should be designing schools. Yeah, it's

01:14:57.859 --> 01:15:00.399
a soft target. Exactly. How they should be designing

01:15:00.399 --> 01:15:03.359
schools for the 21st century is, you know, teachers

01:15:03.359 --> 01:15:06.300
only know where there are hidden safes in every

01:15:06.300 --> 01:15:08.100
room. That way, if something does happen, things

01:15:08.100 --> 01:15:11.300
could be stowed appropriately. Obviously, teachers

01:15:11.300 --> 01:15:14.520
should be trained. This is something that, obviously,

01:15:14.600 --> 01:15:16.380
if they're willing to, if that's something they

01:15:16.380 --> 01:15:19.079
want to do, especially if you already have any

01:15:19.079 --> 01:15:20.960
prior training or prior information, that's something

01:15:20.960 --> 01:15:23.159
that for those teachers that want to train, it

01:15:23.159 --> 01:15:26.279
should be unknown to the parents, to the kids.

01:15:26.939 --> 01:15:29.380
That way you never know who might have it, who

01:15:29.380 --> 01:15:32.119
might not. That's part of it. I also think a

01:15:32.119 --> 01:15:34.520
big thing would be janitorial staff or any other

01:15:34.520 --> 01:15:37.279
non -teaching staff also being armed would be

01:15:37.279 --> 01:15:40.000
awesome. That way it's someone that you rarely

01:15:40.000 --> 01:15:41.880
see, you rarely know. They're just kind of around.

01:15:42.539 --> 01:15:45.279
Being able to have resource officers has been

01:15:45.279 --> 01:15:47.760
shown to be quite helpful. This is something

01:15:47.760 --> 01:15:51.819
that is kind of a necessary evil, but unfortunately

01:15:51.819 --> 01:15:54.300
I think it's something that most of America should

01:15:54.300 --> 01:15:57.779
adopt. Ideally every school. But there might

01:15:57.779 --> 01:16:00.680
be schools where people are not comfortable,

01:16:00.920 --> 01:16:02.300
in which case it's something they should be told

01:16:02.300 --> 01:16:04.119
like, hey, here's how we make it comfortable.

01:16:04.600 --> 01:16:07.279
Here's how we get you into this. Because at the

01:16:07.279 --> 01:16:08.399
end of the day, that's your first line of defense.

01:16:08.399 --> 01:16:12.100
I have to say bah to those people. But that's

01:16:12.100 --> 01:16:14.020
your first line of defense. Actually, my old

01:16:14.020 --> 01:16:16.939
school that was redesigned, they have, for the

01:16:16.939 --> 01:16:19.180
main entrance, it's a two -stage entrance system.

01:16:19.479 --> 01:16:20.199
Most schools have that now. Where you have to

01:16:20.199 --> 01:16:23.039
go through separate doors and two lobbies. And

01:16:23.039 --> 01:16:24.960
they've shown through a lot of testing that's

01:16:24.960 --> 01:16:28.260
been very helpful, being able to separate somebody

01:16:28.260 --> 01:16:30.920
and then have a resource officer or an administrator

01:16:30.920 --> 01:16:33.920
that is armed be able to pat someone down, double

01:16:33.920 --> 01:16:36.369
-check them, talk to them. That way, even if

01:16:36.369 --> 01:16:38.850
something did happen, I hate to say it, but they're

01:16:38.850 --> 01:16:40.649
the only person at risk. They're risking one

01:16:40.649 --> 01:16:43.430
person rather than the school. So school design

01:16:43.430 --> 01:16:46.890
and architecture needs to be a factor as well.

01:16:47.289 --> 01:16:55.489
Yeah. So what a lot of schools up around here

01:16:55.489 --> 01:16:57.729
have been doing is they're putting out signage

01:16:57.729 --> 01:17:01.409
very clearly displayed stating that staff is

01:17:01.409 --> 01:17:04.729
armed. Good. And some schools have even taken

01:17:04.729 --> 01:17:08.430
that whether they are or not, they're just putting

01:17:08.430 --> 01:17:11.390
it out there as a deterrent. As they should.

01:17:12.529 --> 01:17:14.789
Exactly. And I think that's a good move. Now,

01:17:14.909 --> 01:17:20.689
they should be armed just in case, but that's

01:17:20.689 --> 01:17:23.029
the administration and the teacher's thing to

01:17:23.029 --> 01:17:25.890
do because nobody should be forced to get into

01:17:25.890 --> 01:17:27.789
that situation if they don't want to, if they're

01:17:27.789 --> 01:17:31.270
not prepared to. But if they're capable and willing,

01:17:31.409 --> 01:17:33.569
they should have the tools at their disposal

01:17:33.569 --> 01:17:36.750
to do so. especially i love the idea administrators

01:17:36.750 --> 01:17:39.229
can be because that they're usually in an office

01:17:39.229 --> 01:17:41.470
near the center or near the nerve center of the

01:17:41.470 --> 01:17:43.310
school they have access to the com system access

01:17:43.310 --> 01:17:45.409
to police they're usually the first ones that

01:17:45.409 --> 01:17:48.010
can respond or get information out there that

01:17:48.010 --> 01:17:50.130
to me like if i was running a school system they

01:17:50.130 --> 01:17:52.649
would be the first people be like hey yo you

01:17:52.649 --> 01:17:56.430
are my number one line of defense here but yeah

01:17:56.430 --> 01:17:59.750
yeah i mean from the police side of things you

01:17:59.750 --> 01:18:02.720
know Do we want anybody running around with a

01:18:02.720 --> 01:18:05.800
gun that shouldn't be? No. Just like, you know,

01:18:05.819 --> 01:18:08.520
okay, you have teachers in there, and we're going

01:18:08.520 --> 01:18:11.279
into a school knowing that, you know, there might

01:18:11.279 --> 01:18:14.760
be a good guy that has a weapon. Do we really

01:18:14.760 --> 01:18:17.039
want them running around with that? Not really,

01:18:17.119 --> 01:18:21.239
but it would be good to know that even as a cop,

01:18:21.319 --> 01:18:23.779
as a parent, that if you're in that classroom,

01:18:23.939 --> 01:18:26.340
you've locked it all down, but you still got

01:18:26.340 --> 01:18:30.319
that 9mm or the .22 sitting on the teacher. Just

01:18:30.319 --> 01:18:34.279
in case somehow the suspect got inside, at least

01:18:34.279 --> 01:18:37.199
you know that there was that last line of defense.

01:18:38.020 --> 01:18:40.739
You know, I wouldn't suggest a teacher or anybody

01:18:40.739 --> 01:18:43.939
to be like, oh, there's an active shooter. Go

01:18:43.939 --> 01:18:46.340
out there and stop the active shooter. No, I

01:18:46.340 --> 01:18:49.420
would never expect any of them to do that. And

01:18:49.420 --> 01:18:51.579
I think that's where some of the disconnect might

01:18:51.579 --> 01:18:54.199
be is that, you know, some people think, oh,

01:18:54.220 --> 01:18:56.359
you're giving the gun to the teacher. They should

01:18:56.359 --> 01:18:59.430
be expected to go after the bad guy. No. No,

01:18:59.430 --> 01:19:01.010
it's there to protect the kids. It's a defensive

01:19:01.010 --> 01:19:04.909
situation only. Exactly. Right. And I don't even

01:19:04.909 --> 01:19:05.869
think it should be a pistol. And I think that's

01:19:05.869 --> 01:19:07.970
where some people are getting upset about it.

01:19:08.449 --> 01:19:10.369
Yeah, I think they should have access to both

01:19:10.369 --> 01:19:15.409
a pistol and a shotgun. I would say whatever

01:19:15.409 --> 01:19:17.710
they're proficient with. That would end the threat

01:19:17.710 --> 01:19:20.770
immediately. Exactly. Shotgun, you don't even

01:19:20.770 --> 01:19:22.750
have to aim, really. Just point and shoot. Just

01:19:22.750 --> 01:19:28.500
get it close. Just get close enough to your end.

01:19:29.340 --> 01:19:31.619
And even something like a 410 is all they need

01:19:31.619 --> 01:19:33.260
in that situation. They don't need something

01:19:33.260 --> 01:19:36.220
big and massive like a 12 gauge, a 10 gauge.

01:19:36.399 --> 01:19:39.960
They just need enough to either deter or get

01:19:39.960 --> 01:19:44.220
enough lead on target to put them down. All you

01:19:44.220 --> 01:19:48.060
have to do is neutralize the threat. And I love

01:19:48.060 --> 01:19:50.319
to have a teacher to have a firearm with the

01:19:50.319 --> 01:19:53.699
inscription to whom it may concern. Just hang

01:19:53.699 --> 01:19:56.689
them around the safe. Just for that one instance.

01:19:56.949 --> 01:19:58.430
But I would just stress it would be whatever

01:19:58.430 --> 01:19:59.949
they're proficient with, whatever they can train

01:19:59.949 --> 01:20:02.369
with, whatever makes the most sense for the design

01:20:02.369 --> 01:20:04.510
of the building. That way there's no overpenetration,

01:20:04.689 --> 01:20:06.649
nobody else is at risk. They might have to change

01:20:06.649 --> 01:20:08.130
what they have depending on where they are in

01:20:08.130 --> 01:20:10.949
the building. But as long as the building is

01:20:10.949 --> 01:20:14.369
designed to facilitate that kind of defensive

01:20:14.369 --> 01:20:17.170
scenario, whatever they got to use. I wouldn't

01:20:17.170 --> 01:20:19.170
even care if they had one of those AR pistol

01:20:19.170 --> 01:20:20.949
kind of things. Whatever you got to do, man.

01:20:22.090 --> 01:20:26.199
If it works, it works. AK pistol. But the crazy

01:20:26.199 --> 01:20:31.699
part is, again, if the suspect knows that they're

01:20:31.699 --> 01:20:34.579
walking into a building and there's the possibility

01:20:34.579 --> 01:20:36.520
that there's somebody in there with a freaking

01:20:36.520 --> 01:20:40.619
gun that's going to stop them, you're going to

01:20:40.619 --> 01:20:43.819
see a lot less of these kind of things take place.

01:20:43.960 --> 01:20:48.720
Because I swear, it's like a theme. After we

01:20:48.720 --> 01:20:52.300
started taking the gun clubs away, we started

01:20:52.300 --> 01:20:54.859
taking away the shooting teams and all that stuff,

01:20:55.000 --> 01:20:57.619
all of a sudden this started becoming a problem

01:20:57.619 --> 01:21:00.819
because now you've taken away anybody that was

01:21:00.819 --> 01:21:06.119
responsible with the gun and you've kind of demonized

01:21:06.119 --> 01:21:09.659
it. So now anybody that's looking to do harm

01:21:09.659 --> 01:21:13.520
to people knows I can walk into a school and

01:21:13.520 --> 01:21:17.289
start blasting. And know that the odds of me

01:21:17.289 --> 01:21:20.229
getting shot by somebody is almost nil. Because

01:21:20.229 --> 01:21:23.069
by the time I'm done, I can walk out of the building

01:21:23.069 --> 01:21:26.369
and be running, look like everyone else, and

01:21:26.369 --> 01:21:28.689
I'm not going to get hurt by the police. If you

01:21:28.689 --> 01:21:31.409
know what you're doing, which is scary for a

01:21:31.409 --> 01:21:36.310
criminal, which it does happen, you know, the

01:21:36.310 --> 01:21:38.789
odds of you getting shot back at a school is

01:21:38.789 --> 01:21:41.880
almost zero. Whereas if you were walking a bank,

01:21:42.020 --> 01:21:45.500
a grocery store, someplace where there's somebody

01:21:45.500 --> 01:21:47.579
at a gas station where somebody's got a weapon

01:21:47.579 --> 01:21:50.300
more than likely, you know there's a good possibility

01:21:50.300 --> 01:21:54.100
you might get shot. So the threat level increases

01:21:54.100 --> 01:21:57.260
for the criminal. Whereas, oh, I walk into a

01:21:57.260 --> 01:22:00.439
school, I can start blasting. Ain't nobody shooting

01:22:00.439 --> 01:22:04.600
back at me. It's like fishing a barrel. But if

01:22:04.600 --> 01:22:07.399
you put teachers in there with these guns, all

01:22:07.399 --> 01:22:09.060
of a sudden that changes the whole scenario.

01:22:09.710 --> 01:22:14.710
I wonder if part of why it's become such a rise

01:22:14.710 --> 01:22:17.390
as well in the younger crowd doing these things

01:22:17.390 --> 01:22:20.369
as well as firearms are seen for a while. They

01:22:20.369 --> 01:22:22.689
were seeing more and more taboo of a kind of

01:22:22.689 --> 01:22:26.329
thing where it was weird to not, it was weird

01:22:26.329 --> 01:22:29.649
to have one or odd to have access to one, especially

01:22:29.649 --> 01:22:32.750
in more urban areas where knowing that these

01:22:32.750 --> 01:22:36.350
teachers and staff are armed would make it way

01:22:36.350 --> 01:22:38.869
less taboo, way more real to understand, Hey,

01:22:39.500 --> 01:22:42.060
These are the consequences. This is how life

01:22:42.060 --> 01:22:46.239
is. Unfortunately, most life does devolve down

01:22:46.239 --> 01:22:49.739
to the fact that something can happen at any

01:22:49.739 --> 01:22:52.899
time. Anyone can decide that their life is worth

01:22:52.899 --> 01:22:54.579
more than yours and do something to take that

01:22:54.579 --> 01:22:57.399
away. And I think for a lot of kids, not that

01:22:57.399 --> 01:23:01.039
their innocence should be broken, but almost

01:23:01.039 --> 01:23:03.500
anyone wants to hit your teenage years. It's

01:23:03.500 --> 01:23:05.260
like, hey, you don't understand. At the end of

01:23:05.260 --> 01:23:07.380
the day, this basic reality of life, unfortunately,

01:23:07.380 --> 01:23:11.829
is a fact. And these teachers are armed. So don't

01:23:11.829 --> 01:23:14.109
think that you can just like we see in some urban

01:23:14.109 --> 01:23:15.789
schools, but don't think you can just throw hands

01:23:15.789 --> 01:23:17.569
with a teacher. Don't think you can just do whatever

01:23:17.569 --> 01:23:19.229
the hell you want or bring in a firearm and do

01:23:19.229 --> 01:23:22.510
whatever. There are now consequences to these

01:23:22.510 --> 01:23:25.529
actions and you need to be made aware that you

01:23:25.529 --> 01:23:27.529
might not know the consequences other than they're

01:23:27.529 --> 01:23:31.630
going to be bad. So don't do this shit. I wouldn't

01:23:31.630 --> 01:23:34.189
say now there are consequences. I should, I would

01:23:34.189 --> 01:23:36.310
think we should say there's consequences again.

01:23:37.289 --> 01:23:42.930
Yeah. Yeah, a lot of it also comes down to respect

01:23:42.930 --> 01:23:46.170
from the younger generation and the lack that

01:23:46.170 --> 01:23:51.909
they have towards anybody older than them. Yes.

01:23:52.590 --> 01:23:55.569
It's the whole mentality of, oh, you can't do

01:23:55.569 --> 01:23:58.210
anything wrong as a child. And then you grow

01:23:58.210 --> 01:24:00.649
up thinking, I can't do anything wrong. So then

01:24:00.649 --> 01:24:03.609
they freak out because someone told them no.

01:24:03.710 --> 01:24:05.130
Yeah, and it's usually the first time they've

01:24:05.130 --> 01:24:10.640
ever heard that word. And it's terrible. I, before

01:24:10.640 --> 01:24:12.880
I was medically retired, I experienced it multiple

01:24:12.880 --> 01:24:16.899
times. I hated every experience of it. Every

01:24:16.899 --> 01:24:20.720
single time I hated it. So what do you mean you're

01:24:20.720 --> 01:24:22.880
taking my license? What do you mean you're taking

01:24:22.880 --> 01:24:26.340
my car? Oh my God, you can't do that. The law

01:24:26.340 --> 01:24:34.380
says I can. Yeah. So getting back on this, we

01:24:34.380 --> 01:24:36.359
said that most of the incidents happened from

01:24:36.359 --> 01:24:39.500
family owned guns and just poor storage. So if

01:24:39.500 --> 01:24:42.460
the safety classes are brought back at a national

01:24:42.460 --> 01:24:45.819
level, does that begin to bridge the divide or

01:24:45.819 --> 01:24:50.659
kind of fuel some of the issues? You had mentioned

01:24:50.659 --> 01:24:53.380
that schools used to have the shooting teams

01:24:53.380 --> 01:24:55.640
and everything. They also had indoor ranges.

01:24:56.800 --> 01:25:00.479
One thing I was kind of thinking, the guns were

01:25:00.479 --> 01:25:03.039
in the school, then they got taken from the school,

01:25:03.159 --> 01:25:05.479
and now they're being brought back into the school,

01:25:05.520 --> 01:25:08.329
but in the wrong way. The guns want to be at

01:25:08.329 --> 01:25:12.609
the school. We just need to cater to that. What?

01:25:13.689 --> 01:25:17.470
Yes, because the guns have a mind. You ask some

01:25:17.470 --> 01:25:19.489
of these people, they think they do. They yearn

01:25:19.489 --> 01:25:24.689
for the books. That's right. They want that edumacation.

01:25:24.909 --> 01:25:31.189
So I guess if I was a lawmaker or governor for

01:25:31.189 --> 01:25:34.149
a state. I would welcome schools to advertise

01:25:34.149 --> 01:25:36.529
both ways. If a school wants to be gun -free

01:25:36.529 --> 01:25:39.529
and they want to do that, they should advertise

01:25:39.529 --> 01:25:41.270
it as such and the other ones vice versa. But

01:25:41.270 --> 01:25:43.890
I would specifically point out, hey, if you don't

01:25:43.890 --> 01:25:45.390
like firearms, you're taking a risk having your

01:25:45.390 --> 01:25:48.050
kids here. I hate to be that guy, but there's

01:25:48.050 --> 01:25:49.390
going to be people that don't want to just say,

01:25:49.430 --> 01:25:50.770
oh, I can't have firearms. I can't have my kids

01:25:50.770 --> 01:25:52.630
here. It's like, okay, you're making that choice.

01:25:53.630 --> 01:25:55.229
But unfortunately, we're going to have to let

01:25:55.229 --> 01:25:58.470
the data bear out to show what truly is better.

01:25:58.670 --> 01:26:01.420
And I think some people... They're going to have

01:26:01.420 --> 01:26:03.079
to risk it and learn the hard way. And I hate

01:26:03.079 --> 01:26:06.319
to put it that way, but you know there's going

01:26:06.319 --> 01:26:07.819
to be a lot of people, especially in certain

01:26:07.819 --> 01:26:09.739
states, like Illinois is one I can think of,

01:26:09.779 --> 01:26:12.819
and New York and Massachusetts and a few other

01:26:12.819 --> 01:26:14.420
ones, California, they're going to be absolutely

01:26:14.420 --> 01:26:17.539
against it. It's like, well, okay, let the schools

01:26:17.539 --> 01:26:20.819
vote on it or let private schools do what they're

01:26:20.819 --> 01:26:23.220
going to do. Let the data show in a few years.

01:26:24.140 --> 01:26:29.300
And I hate to say it, it's going to show. Oh,

01:26:29.319 --> 01:26:32.520
it absolutely will. That's a study I would love

01:26:32.520 --> 01:26:35.439
to see. How many schools that don't have shootings

01:26:35.439 --> 01:26:39.140
or little to no casualties, if there is one,

01:26:39.279 --> 01:26:42.180
versus a school that has no guns at all. Or also

01:26:42.180 --> 01:26:46.300
schools that openly support the banning of all

01:26:46.300 --> 01:26:48.359
firearms, anti -second amendment stuff, all that,

01:26:48.520 --> 01:26:50.939
anti -constitution stuff. And then watch when

01:26:50.939 --> 01:26:52.640
they have behavioral issues and the violence

01:26:52.640 --> 01:26:55.119
issues, whereas the other ones that are very

01:26:55.119 --> 01:26:58.210
pro... law and order second amendment watch how

01:26:58.210 --> 01:27:00.569
they're not going to have anywhere near the issues

01:27:00.569 --> 01:27:02.989
the other schools will have right and some people

01:27:02.989 --> 01:27:04.670
are scratching saying i don't know why this is

01:27:04.670 --> 01:27:06.449
happening when the rest of us are going to be

01:27:06.449 --> 01:27:10.470
like you're fucking idiot like we know why it's

01:27:10.470 --> 01:27:12.909
not hard if we know why you just don't want to

01:27:12.909 --> 01:27:17.670
talk about it because you got you know like in

01:27:17.670 --> 01:27:19.930
that case with the one teacher got the snot beat

01:27:19.930 --> 01:27:22.170
out of her because she took you know the technology

01:27:22.170 --> 01:27:25.210
away from the one kid so you know the The boy's

01:27:25.210 --> 01:27:28.810
twice her size, so he just mungo beat and just

01:27:28.810 --> 01:27:31.909
beat her into submission. Yeah. And the administration

01:27:31.909 --> 01:27:34.930
is just like, we don't know what happened. That's

01:27:34.930 --> 01:27:37.890
your problem, too. Oh, yeah. Everybody not wanting

01:27:37.890 --> 01:27:40.390
to take accountability. Also, as a teacher, like

01:27:40.390 --> 01:27:42.109
as someone that was going down that road until

01:27:42.109 --> 01:27:45.310
I fucking left it, because fuck that shit, you

01:27:45.310 --> 01:27:50.229
can't, especially as a large guy, I was told

01:27:50.229 --> 01:27:52.649
there are zero circumstances where I can do anything.

01:27:53.740 --> 01:27:56.079
because legally I will always be at fault. Even

01:27:56.079 --> 01:27:57.979
if they brought in a firearm, I was told, oh

01:27:57.979 --> 01:28:00.800
yeah, you run. And I was like, well, what if

01:28:00.800 --> 01:28:02.539
I legally carry in the state? They're like, no,

01:28:02.579 --> 01:28:05.060
you can't. It doesn't matter. There is no situation.

01:28:05.180 --> 01:28:07.079
Even if someone brought in a knife or a sword

01:28:07.079 --> 01:28:11.319
or was threatening, I, because of simply how

01:28:11.319 --> 01:28:15.539
I look, there's nothing I can do about the situation.

01:28:16.420 --> 01:28:18.800
Yeah. As soon as I heard that, I resigned within

01:28:18.800 --> 01:28:21.640
a couple of months. It's like, no. You act and

01:28:21.640 --> 01:28:24.899
react, and then you let them judge you with the

01:28:24.899 --> 01:28:28.760
national spotlight on that. Yeah, even though

01:28:28.760 --> 01:28:32.079
we're guilty, we're not guilty until proven guilty.

01:28:32.659 --> 01:28:37.859
Police, teachers, firefighters, anybody that's

01:28:37.859 --> 01:28:40.579
in a very sensitive area, you're guilty until

01:28:40.579 --> 01:28:42.420
proven innocent. But unfortunately, the catch

01:28:42.420 --> 01:28:44.859
is the teachers' union would not have my back.

01:28:46.060 --> 01:28:48.880
Oh, yeah. That's the catch. The other unions

01:28:48.880 --> 01:28:52.279
would. But the teachers' union absolutely would

01:28:52.279 --> 01:28:55.560
not have your back on something like that. They'd

01:28:55.560 --> 01:28:58.020
say, nope, you broke the law. Tough shit. So

01:28:58.020 --> 01:28:59.979
it's like, why? And unfortunately, I hate to

01:28:59.979 --> 01:29:01.460
say it, in a lot of schools, particularly more

01:29:01.460 --> 01:29:03.779
left -leaning areas, that's why you don't see

01:29:03.779 --> 01:29:05.239
teachers stand up. You don't see teachers do

01:29:05.239 --> 01:29:07.659
anything. You see teachers get the shit beat

01:29:07.659 --> 01:29:10.420
out of them in certain areas. And you're told

01:29:10.420 --> 01:29:15.699
you can't do anything. Yeah. Yeah. So I know

01:29:15.699 --> 01:29:17.020
we're starting to run a little bit long, so I

01:29:17.020 --> 01:29:18.979
want to get on to some quick stats that I wanted

01:29:18.979 --> 01:29:22.930
to bring up. Some of the numbers I was able to

01:29:22.930 --> 01:29:27.970
find, the higher rural ownership versus lower

01:29:27.970 --> 01:29:31.229
urban ownership of firearms. Rural ownership

01:29:31.229 --> 01:29:36.229
is roughly 46 % versus 19 % for urban. If you

01:29:36.229 --> 01:29:38.890
go by the party lines, Republicans, 45, Democrats,

01:29:39.149 --> 01:29:46.210
20. 51 % say they prioritize rights versus 48

01:29:46.210 --> 01:29:50.090
% that say control. There is a generational shift

01:29:50.090 --> 01:29:52.409
that's starting to happen. More young Republicans

01:29:52.409 --> 01:29:56.869
are open to restrictions. So that's odd. I think

01:29:56.869 --> 01:29:58.409
it's just the younger crowd not understanding

01:29:58.409 --> 01:30:02.550
life. Household ownership is starting to kind

01:30:02.550 --> 01:30:05.430
of come up a little bit, but it's still holding

01:30:05.430 --> 01:30:08.369
in that 42 to 44 % ballpark that we mentioned

01:30:08.369 --> 01:30:12.289
earlier. Firearms are being looked at as a bit

01:30:12.289 --> 01:30:15.210
of cultural identity. Out in the rural areas,

01:30:15.310 --> 01:30:17.869
it's a symbol of independence. In the urban areas,

01:30:18.130 --> 01:30:22.350
it's kind of a symbol of fear, possibly. I kind

01:30:22.350 --> 01:30:25.130
of think that's more of a where you carry the

01:30:25.130 --> 01:30:27.569
setup matches your politics more than your outfit.

01:30:27.970 --> 01:30:30.229
And yes, I am looking at you, the ladies with

01:30:30.229 --> 01:30:39.510
the sparkly grips. So working class owners versus

01:30:39.510 --> 01:30:42.510
the people who get to have the bodyguards, I

01:30:42.510 --> 01:30:44.930
think there's going to be a very deep. polarization

01:30:44.930 --> 01:30:48.069
between that group always. It's probably never

01:30:48.069 --> 01:30:53.890
going to change. If the divide does grow, does

01:30:53.890 --> 01:30:58.430
the Second Amendment become more of a flashpoint

01:30:58.430 --> 01:31:01.630
or is it just going to continue to be a national

01:31:01.630 --> 01:31:04.930
kind of poking the bear weight for the fire to

01:31:04.930 --> 01:31:15.390
take off? As long as Unfortunately, private,

01:31:15.649 --> 01:31:24.590
as long as private security is allowed to get

01:31:24.590 --> 01:31:26.529
around the law in certain ways and do things

01:31:26.529 --> 01:31:29.970
that a civilian can't or a licensed firearm owner

01:31:29.970 --> 01:31:32.149
can't, there's always going to be some tension.

01:31:32.890 --> 01:31:36.569
So it's one of those things where, as I'm sure

01:31:36.569 --> 01:31:38.390
we've all seen time and time again, privatized

01:31:38.390 --> 01:31:41.010
security forces that they get. Special privileges,

01:31:41.289 --> 01:31:43.430
special rights, can carry fully automatic weapons,

01:31:43.649 --> 01:31:46.050
can carry stuff in certain calibers, certain

01:31:46.050 --> 01:31:47.869
things, certain barrel lengths, whatever, not

01:31:47.869 --> 01:31:50.989
have to abide by certain laws because for some

01:31:50.989 --> 01:31:53.310
reason they're allowed to. There's some sort

01:31:53.310 --> 01:31:55.350
of loophole where they know somebody, whatever.

01:31:55.529 --> 01:31:57.250
They have certain paperwork filed that regular

01:31:57.250 --> 01:32:00.229
people can't. As long as that's the situation,

01:32:00.470 --> 01:32:01.989
there's always going to be tension about it.

01:32:02.210 --> 01:32:04.449
And quite frankly, those people are so far removed

01:32:04.449 --> 01:32:06.350
from the consequences of any law that to them

01:32:06.350 --> 01:32:09.340
it doesn't matter. So that's going to be a point

01:32:09.340 --> 01:32:11.239
of contention until that's resolved. And unfortunately,

01:32:11.319 --> 01:32:12.619
I don't think that's ever going to be resolved

01:32:12.619 --> 01:32:14.859
in this country. You're always going to get some

01:32:14.859 --> 01:32:16.939
people that get certain privileges. And I hate

01:32:16.939 --> 01:32:18.100
to say this. Unfortunately, it's always going

01:32:18.100 --> 01:32:20.619
to be you politicians that are allowed to have

01:32:20.619 --> 01:32:22.640
anybody around you care, whatever you want. They

01:32:22.640 --> 01:32:25.579
could ban firearms tomorrow and they will still

01:32:25.579 --> 01:32:28.180
have full security with full body armor, full

01:32:28.180 --> 01:32:31.500
everything. You know, NVGs, you name it, nods,

01:32:31.500 --> 01:32:33.939
whatever. And they'll still have whatever they

01:32:33.939 --> 01:32:36.909
want to carry. So unfortunately, until there's

01:32:36.909 --> 01:32:39.149
a law in the books that says they have to carry

01:32:39.149 --> 01:32:41.210
the same things everyone else, they can do whatever

01:32:41.210 --> 01:32:43.649
they want. And the funny part to that is the

01:32:43.649 --> 01:32:45.649
only reason they're going to still do that is

01:32:45.649 --> 01:32:48.590
because they know for a fact that they're not

01:32:48.590 --> 01:32:50.869
protecting against civilians that are following

01:32:50.869 --> 01:32:53.289
the law. They're protecting against the criminals

01:32:53.289 --> 01:32:56.810
that don't give a shit. That's who they're protecting

01:32:56.810 --> 01:32:59.770
themselves against. Not the normal everyday citizen

01:32:59.770 --> 01:33:02.069
who's just working their 9 to 5 and going back

01:33:02.069 --> 01:33:05.649
and forth to work. They don't give a shit. those

01:33:05.649 --> 01:33:06.989
aren't the people who are protecting themselves

01:33:06.989 --> 01:33:09.550
against and that's what they don't say out that's

01:33:09.550 --> 01:33:11.750
the quiet part they're not saying out loud like

01:33:11.750 --> 01:33:15.050
case in point why do you think ice walks around

01:33:15.050 --> 01:33:17.550
so well armed is because those cartel members

01:33:17.550 --> 01:33:21.810
putting hits out on them uh -huh yeah this this

01:33:21.810 --> 01:33:24.539
is why we don't talk about that because Yeah,

01:33:24.579 --> 01:33:27.199
they all wear masks, but nobody talks about that.

01:33:27.279 --> 01:33:30.039
They're all going on about, oh, my God, they're

01:33:30.039 --> 01:33:32.340
arresting people, and they're just trying to

01:33:32.340 --> 01:33:35.260
live their life. Well, if they came here legally,

01:33:35.500 --> 01:33:39.479
I know plenty of legal aliens that came here

01:33:39.479 --> 01:33:42.159
the right way who are really pissed at the ones

01:33:42.159 --> 01:33:45.380
who come here illegally. But we don't talk about

01:33:45.380 --> 01:33:49.920
that for some reason. Yeah. The people who spend

01:33:49.920 --> 01:33:53.840
the time become American citizens. who are proud

01:33:53.840 --> 01:33:56.699
of being American citizens and did it the right

01:33:56.699 --> 01:34:01.060
way. Yep. I am happy to have his friends, but

01:34:01.060 --> 01:34:03.539
it's the individuals that come here illegally

01:34:03.539 --> 01:34:08.039
that I'm just like, whatever. And I, I know our

01:34:08.039 --> 01:34:12.460
topics on government stuff don't usually hit

01:34:12.460 --> 01:34:15.140
very well, but we may end up doing an episode

01:34:15.140 --> 01:34:27.250
on the immigration stuff. Oh boy. Yeah. But,

01:34:27.329 --> 01:34:29.930
uh, I, I think that's going to kind of wrap it

01:34:29.930 --> 01:34:34.229
up for tonight. Um, the, the big thing I wanted

01:34:34.229 --> 01:34:36.489
to ask for the listeners, uh, if you guys have

01:34:36.489 --> 01:34:39.829
run into anything with weird gun laws, or if

01:34:39.829 --> 01:34:42.310
you've had any good interactions with police

01:34:42.310 --> 01:34:44.390
officers and you've been stopped while carrying,

01:34:44.489 --> 01:34:48.329
or you have any general, uh, thoughts on the

01:34:48.329 --> 01:34:53.250
reciprocity stuff. Let us know about it because

01:34:53.250 --> 01:34:58.310
we like interacting with you guys. At the end

01:34:58.310 --> 01:35:00.989
of the day, this all comes down to personal responsibility

01:35:00.989 --> 01:35:05.869
and just kind of being a decent person who is

01:35:05.869 --> 01:35:07.729
just trying to live their life. We've got enough

01:35:07.729 --> 01:35:10.550
shitbags out there trying to make it hard for

01:35:10.550 --> 01:35:14.890
everyone else. I don't think anyone in this circle

01:35:14.890 --> 01:35:18.189
is trying to add to that pile. If we are adding

01:35:18.189 --> 01:35:21.970
to that pile, it's the non -moving pile. So let's

01:35:21.970 --> 01:35:27.710
continue with that. Smells like money. Everyone

01:35:27.710 --> 01:35:36.130
back in the pile. Oh, my goodness. Oh, sweet

01:35:36.130 --> 01:35:40.189
Jesus. Yeah. So, all right. Well, that's going

01:35:40.189 --> 01:35:42.210
to do it for this week. I hope you guys liked

01:35:42.210 --> 01:35:45.609
the show. If questions, comments, concern, send

01:35:45.609 --> 01:35:48.520
them to us. Questions about Manny's Wrestling,

01:35:48.619 --> 01:35:51.640
send them to Gibbs. And we look forward to seeing

01:35:51.640 --> 01:35:57.479
you guys next week, hopefully. Thank you all.

01:35:57.520 --> 01:35:59.340
We love you all. Where was that in the script?

01:35:59.760 --> 01:36:01.939
I don't even like mayo. That's the thing. You're

01:36:01.939 --> 01:36:03.180
going to like it when you're wrestling. You're

01:36:03.180 --> 01:36:06.579
going to eat it out of the pool. I like Miracle

01:36:06.579 --> 01:36:11.619
Whip. That's always nice. All right, guys. Thanks

01:36:11.619 --> 01:36:14.300
for listening. We love you all, and we'll see

01:36:14.300 --> 01:36:23.130
you all next week. Alright, I'm stopping recording.