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episode or podcast, but we make over some topics

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that dance that line like a toddler dances on

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their mother's last nerve. This podcast is rated

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I. For immature audiences only. If you've ever

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a calendar invite that says performance review,

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then strap in with a strap -on for the Now We

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Consume podcast. I'm your host, Pip. Tonight,

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as always, and disappointed as ever, are my co

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-hosts, Gibbs and Gibbles. Hello. Hey. You should

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not ever be allowed a management position at

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your job. No. The bad thing is, I think they

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might be putting me in one here before long.

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Well, don't send them this video. Challenge taken.

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Challenge accepted. So tonight we are coming

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to you live or recorded by the time you're listening

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to this from Snowmageddon 2026. We are thankfully

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still with power and internet. For now, exactly.

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So if anything cuts out during the show, that's

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what it'll be attributed to. Yeah. Probably Gibbs.

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Yeah. It looks like the updated totals are going

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to be more than two feet. Gross. So, yeah. I'm

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sitting here with my eight inches and just sitting

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proud and happy for once. You're lucky. My driveway

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already looks like I haven't touched it. You

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got to be kidding me. I have reflective posts

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that are now covered. And it's like up to my

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waist. Oh, geez. Living off the lake is just

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been the most amazing idea. Yeah. All right.

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So tonight, since we've had a few topics on the

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show that. are going to tie into this. We're

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going to be talking about the one thing that

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humans have spent literally thousands of years

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trying to accept, and now 10 minutes of AI is

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trying to undo. It's currently January of 2026,

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and a few weeks ago, a new law went into effect

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in California. It's called Senate Bill 243. It's

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a very dry piece of legislation on paper, but

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it's mostly forcing AI companies to disclose

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when you're talking to a bot. But if you look

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between the lines, the reason because that law

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exists, it's not because of customer service

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bots. It's because of digital necromancy. And

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necromancers are usually pretty cool, but in

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this case, not so much. Right now, as you're

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listening to this, there are servers in Northern

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Virginia that are coming away with personas,

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virtual personas of people who aren't here anymore.

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And for $30 a month, you can FaceTime a digital

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ghost trained on one of your late parents' old

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text messages and voice notes. It looks like

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them. It laughs like them. It has all their little

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mannerisms. And it even remembers that big trip

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to the lake back in 18. Hold on. All I can say

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is if somebody does that with my mother, I will

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burn the building to the ground. No, that woman

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does not get to live forever. No. Yeah, well,

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this is thankfully a service that you have to

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prepay for. Can I ask a quick question on this?

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Yes. I think this is actually kind of important.

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Does this require the consent of the family or

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anyone involved? We are going to talk about that.

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That is down here. I have that. So now in a world

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where we consume everything, like every moment

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and every bite, we finally have started consuming,

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have we started to finally consume our own grief?

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We used to say rest in peace, but now it sounds

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like the industry is saying stay in the stack.

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That's a terrifying thing to think about. You

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ain't kidding, buddy. It's not like you're actually

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preserving people. It's all fake, 100%. Right,

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it's not like you took somebody and scanned their

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brain and said, okay, now I'm taking the brain

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and making it digital. Right. So this episode

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is going to touch on a couple of our previous

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episodes. Last week, we talked about the Cognify

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stuff where they're kind of getting into your

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brain and do a memory manipulation. But also

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way back early in the first season, we talked

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about the upload possibility of the digital afterlife.

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This is a whole different kind of spin on that

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idea. This is probably even the precursor to

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that. Well, I was going to say that's something

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that's readily doable, obviously, today. Yeah,

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this is being done. I have seen ads for this

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stuff. Where? I have not heard. Before you wrote

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this up, I have never seen anything about this.

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Yeah, we obviously have very different feeds

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coming to our eyeballs. But yes, I have seen

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the ads for this shit. I know my feed is definitely

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different than all yours. Oh, yeah. So we're

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going to go ahead and take a look at the already

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$40 million grief tech market. The ethics of

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the subscription soul and why the most radical

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act of love in a digital age might actually be

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letting someone actually go. So we can start

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this off by talking about the new necromancy.

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We have moved from memorials to permanent simulations.

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The transition from memorialization, which would

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be static photos and even old videos, to a new

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interactive immortality. And the numbers as of

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out this month, the global digital immortality

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market is valued at approximately $36 .8 million,

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with projections pushing it towards $118 billion

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by 2034. Agentic AI becomes the standard. And

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there are already some key players. Eternos offers

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legacy accounts starting at $25 a month to keep

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your digital twin alive. And there's a story

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that we're going to touch on with that one that's

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already been used. Did you have something, Gibbs?

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I'm just taking this all in. I don't like any

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of this. I already read over the notes, so I

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know. it's just one of those things once you

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start to process it and understand that the dead

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internet theory is going to become way more relevant

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than we ever thought possible yeah dead internet

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is one thing but now it's actually dead people

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internet that's a whole different ball game like

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there's going to be a future if this becomes

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true where 80 of facebook is going to be ai accounts

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of people you used to know posting about bullshit

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yeah yeah There's a company called You Only Virtual.

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They specialize in the Versonas, which are the

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AIs that are built specifically to mimic the

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unique relationship between two people. That

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would be like a mom bot that only knows how to

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talk to you. This isn't just preserving memories

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anymore. They are building denial as a service.

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They're paying a monthly fee. to pretend the

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most fundamental part of the human experience,

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death, has been patched out of the latest update.

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This, I feel, is kind of a pathway into the mental

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health aspect of the grieving process because

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you have to get to that acceptance stage. And

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if you're going with one of these services, you

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will never get to the acceptance. Because you

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still have the interactability. You're still

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able to have conversations. And with the AI features,

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they can update, they can learn, and they can

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grow, essentially, with new information. Oh,

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so we're going to get sent hints with someone's

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dead persona. Okay. Yeah. Great. So, I feel like

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this is part of the issue that we have of letting

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people... There's no easy way to say this. I'm

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just going to say it. We're letting mentally

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ill people run the asylum when it comes to how

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the way the world's going. We're putting bubble

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wrap on absolutely everything and saying, nope,

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nobody went away. Nobody's hurt. Everything's

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fine. Everything's all good. That's how, you

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know, we're entering the dystopia when people,

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unfortunately, are trying to find every excuse

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possible to not live the world that they're in.

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Yeah, pretty much. Yeah. Man. In a world full

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of crazy people, the crazier the sane. So the

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$36 .8 million market valuation, that's out as

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of right now. It's no longer a weird startup

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kind of thing. It's becoming a standard feature

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in high -end estate planning. So the people that

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are well off can actually kind of get this stuff

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set up the AI, the servers and all that stuff

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with video interviews, text message dumps, all

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that kind of stuff. So there was a man named

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Michael bomber or bomber. I'm probably mispronouncing

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his name. B O M M E R. Uh, he's an engineer who

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used Eternos to create a digital twin before

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passing from terminal cancer. So that is the

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case that has already been used. Uh, with this

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whole situation. But that's still not him. It's

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not him, but it was as close as we can get to

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the upload scenario with current technology to

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being him. It was a way for his family to process

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because his life was cut short. Wait, a process?

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Oh, God, no. They're never going to let go. Maybe

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eventually. And we'll talk about that a little

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bit later on. So, Gibbs, did you want to take

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over the next part here? I swear there's nothing

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complicated in here. You yelled at me last week

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for that. It was a word I had never had to spell.

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It's fine. It's fine. It's fine. It's okay. The

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historical link. Victorian era versus modern

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methods. So you're talking about discussing their

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obsession with death or things like hair, jewelry,

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mementos, photography, and the rise of spiritualism,

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things like Ouija boards, mediums, kind of ways

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to talk with the dead. So what's going to be

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interesting, I think where the cross section

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of this is, I wonder if culturally this will

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become going from being something that's like

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taboo into something that is almost normalized.

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Where it's like, oh, you know, grandma, grandpa

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are on the way out. We got to have, you know,

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their, their AI personas uploaded and all the

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memories and everything. They got to upload everything.

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That way they can still talk to them on Facebook

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or whatever. I wonder if it's going to be something

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that's like, I hate to say it, but like people

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do on the regular. I have a thought. I have a

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thought because what you said there, what would

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be the legal ramifications where. somebody goes

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and writes a will and people disagree with said

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will. So then they go to the virtual AI who's

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supposed to be a persona of that person. And

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we get to the point where everybody's like, Oh,

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you know, that's really that person. Can that

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AI then supersede what was written in the will?

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No, I wouldn't think so because a lot of this

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takes a lot of, um, prep before that person passes

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it wouldn't be recognized as a consciousness

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either like we're not at the singularity point

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right just like a um it's like a digital snapshot

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yeah i'm just curious because you know how dumb

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people are so oh don't worry people will try

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that's what i'm saying i you know and it's not

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gonna hold up in court Granted, that is assuming

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the judges are going to be smart enough to understand

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this because I hate to say it, but a lot of judges

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are older. I think that's going to go right over

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their heads. I think they're just not going to

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get it. But one of the things you brought up

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here that I didn't realize until we were discussing

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this was you're talking about your obsession

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with hair, jewelry, mementos, photography. What

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I'm wondering is if we're becoming truly a digitized

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world or a digitized culture. Are we no longer

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going to have things to pass down physically

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from one generation to another? Because think

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about it. At least in my generation, we ain't

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going to own shit because of the way the economy

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is going. So what's weird is assets are going

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to go from a physical medium to a digital medium.

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They're going to be photos, Instagram accounts,

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different reels, all things that are digitized

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that are kept separate. But in terms of physical

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things to hand down, people aren't going to be

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handing down, maybe some. But a lot of people

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aren't going to be handing down like photo books,

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scrapbooks, like recipes, like everything's literally

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going to be ones and zeros. I wonder if this

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can be part of that inheritance kind of thing

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where it's they almost become a repository of

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information. That's a that's a good thought.

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I hadn't considered that. It's very possible.

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I think for a lot of people, especially people

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that are not well off financially, that they

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can afford digital assets and not real assets.

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This might be part of the package of, oh, your

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loved ones have passed away. We could do this

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whole in memoriam thing. We set up the digital

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AI thing with all their information, everything

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stored on the AI person that was your family

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member. And that we just ask him for stuff like,

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oh, what's what's that photo of Uncle Bill from,

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you know, 1992 where he's doing this? Like, oh,

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let me search through here. I remember this.

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This is what this time. You know what I mean?

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They like describe what happened and all that.

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Yeah. It wouldn't work for me. Wouldn't work

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for me, though. Yeah. Wouldn't work for me because

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I'm such an asshole. So what happens? What happens

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if you do this right? You make your own Harry

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Potter scenario. We upload them into like portraits.

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and you hang them on the wall, and then they're

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all yelling at each other. They get to watch

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as the whole family gets uploaded as AI photos,

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and all different parts all yelling at each other

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and fucking screaming. Oh my god, it's the last

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family reunion all over again. Every day. You

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ask it about the Thanksgiving where everybody

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had this big argument, and it all of a sudden

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just shows the big argument taking place, and

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it's... It's just, it's an episode of Springer.

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Oh, even better. You get the one family where,

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you know, somebody asked to pass the gravy. They

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get told, you know, to F themselves. And next

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thing you know, there's a dead body on the ground.

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Put them in picture frames and see how that goes.

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See, it won't be real until I can get one uncle

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to yell at another uncle some racial slur. And

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they fucking kill each other through the photo.

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Then I know we're onto something. But until we

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can set those kind of classic family fights.

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Because I feel like there is a method for this,

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honestly, that would be, I think, helpful for

00:16:53.139 --> 00:16:55.399
people, too, to be able to have that family -style

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reunion where they all interact, if that's possible.

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I think they're just going to cheap out and do

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this like the shortest, cheapest way possible.

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Of course. Oh, yeah. Subscribe for three. And

00:17:05.789 --> 00:17:07.509
what they're going to do is they're going to

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fucking guilt trap people because they're going

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to say, oh, we have your grandma for $3 .99 a

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month. Pay us or else she gets deleted. Like,

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it's going to be this absolute guilt trip bullshit.

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Oh, yeah. Well, that's going to be that whole,

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you know, the way things are now with subscriptions.

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Oh, you want to leave? Well, you're not going

00:17:25.690 --> 00:17:29.059
to be such a fun person anymore, are you? Don't

00:17:29.059 --> 00:17:33.779
unsubscribe. You know, crap like that. Grandma

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has been downgraded to hell. Just see the background.

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She's just burning in the photo. Pay the money.

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Pay the money. Oh, geez. That's going to be Black

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Mirror right there. Unless you get the super

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special package, Grandma is now going to be living

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at five frames per second. Oh, my God. She's

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not having a stroke. She's just at 4 FPS. Oh

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my god. Imagine that being the family reunion.

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The family reunion at the trailer park. They're

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not stuttering. They're just at low speed. That's

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how it fucking works. Can you imagine if they

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did have a speech impediment like that and they

00:18:19.160 --> 00:18:22.809
uploaded that? Oh Jesus. fucking Albert Fudd

00:18:22.809 --> 00:18:28.029
would be out there coughing up his throat. Oh,

00:18:28.369 --> 00:18:30.730
man. Oh, no. But you know what? You could put

00:18:30.730 --> 00:18:32.210
them on really funny stuff. Like, imagine you

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put, like, your grandfather that was a dick on,

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like, a mug. So every morning we'd go to, like,

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drink coffee. It's like, ah, wake up, asshole.

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Ah, hey, Grandpa, how you doing? Like, just...

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There's funny things you could do with them.

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Like, that... There is a method. There is some

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way you could do with it, but... I feel like

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it's going to be way too serious and way too

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not fun. You know? Yeah. No, if they did it to

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me, it wouldn't be a good idea. I'm an asshole.

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So, yeah. Oh, you want to know where I hid such

00:19:04.019 --> 00:19:07.359
and such? Oh, yeah, go fuck yourself. You want

00:19:07.359 --> 00:19:13.180
to say hi? Yeah, no, go screw off. Right. Y 'all

00:19:13.180 --> 00:19:17.240
put me in here. I'm not happy. I'm going to make

00:19:17.240 --> 00:19:19.339
your life a living hell. It'll be shit like that.

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Yeah. Yeah, we don't talk to Grandpa. Why? He's

00:19:26.299 --> 00:19:29.940
an asshole. Why is he still online? Because if

00:19:29.940 --> 00:19:32.039
you delete him, we're afraid he's going to break

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the internet. Let's see here. So I think we kind

00:19:45.900 --> 00:19:52.259
of covered that one. Yeah. Well, so, um, yeah,

00:19:52.380 --> 00:19:54.140
cause, cause back in the day, everyone wanted

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something physical to hold onto. And with, with

00:19:57.799 --> 00:20:02.640
the transition to the digital state, um, it's,

00:20:02.640 --> 00:20:05.279
it's just kind of the comparison of, is it, is

00:20:05.279 --> 00:20:07.019
it just the transition to a more sophisticated

00:20:07.019 --> 00:20:14.519
state of grief or is it, um, just the natural

00:20:14.519 --> 00:20:21.480
progression you know it's not natural without

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that no i think it also has to do with the fact

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that like the way civilization has worked for

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thousands of years has been interrupted by modern

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civilization so Usually how it would go is like,

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obviously you, you grow up and then you have

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a family, then you get old and the family takes

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care of you and you die. And it kind of starts

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the cycle over again, but it's usually very linear.

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It's all, all stages are happening at the same

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time. Right. And it's required that every stage

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happens, you know, obviously. As soon as basically

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you can raise kids and have kids, you're probably

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having kids. You'll probably have several generations

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underneath you, and then you turn a ripe old

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age of 35 and you die because that's what happened

00:21:01.779 --> 00:21:05.640
in the medieval times. Or if you live in the

00:21:05.640 --> 00:21:07.880
District of Columbia right now, that happens

00:21:07.880 --> 00:21:13.920
too. Yeah, 37. They got two more years. All that

00:21:13.920 --> 00:21:15.900
modern technology is really helping them out.

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But I think... The issue is we don't really value

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things the same way that we used to in that way

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because you have people living a lot longer,

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but also there isn't that sense of community

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anymore. Most people don't live with their family.

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Most people live very far away. There's not that

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close -knit family like there used to be where

00:21:36.849 --> 00:21:38.670
people were actually reliant on each other. Now

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it's optional. So maybe I'm a little jaded on

00:21:42.230 --> 00:21:43.569
this topic, but I see a lot of family members

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that just don't help each other that aren't around,

00:21:45.490 --> 00:21:47.970
so therefore they're not as invested in the family

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as a unit. or in the older people in their family

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so when they pass it's not like they're inheriting

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anything they only have those couple of memories

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so i feel like it's because of the very little

00:22:01.099 --> 00:22:03.940
that they get with them that's what they value

00:22:03.940 --> 00:22:07.700
you know because i don't know like like here's

00:22:07.700 --> 00:22:10.359
a question for you too how many younger people

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spend a significant amount of time with the older

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people in their family Or do they see them like

00:22:18.180 --> 00:22:19.920
once a month, once every few months, maybe only

00:22:19.920 --> 00:22:24.180
on holidays? I think it depends more so on the

00:22:24.180 --> 00:22:27.779
family because I know a couple extremes. I know

00:22:27.779 --> 00:22:30.619
some to see every day or about every day, and

00:22:30.619 --> 00:22:35.519
I know some that just never see them. I mean,

00:22:35.619 --> 00:22:40.940
I see mine, you know, at least, I don't know,

00:22:41.039 --> 00:22:45.299
on average, at least once a week. I have family,

00:22:45.319 --> 00:22:48.900
I see. See, maybe it's because of like where

00:22:48.900 --> 00:22:51.039
I live, but I feel like that's outside the norm.

00:22:51.599 --> 00:22:53.980
Yeah. Sadly, I'm now one of the oldest people

00:22:53.980 --> 00:22:59.200
in my family. Oh, you'll be getting the title

00:22:59.200 --> 00:23:02.539
of grandpa in the family. Oh, I'm not there yet.

00:23:04.539 --> 00:23:12.259
Pinky jinks, pinky jinks. But I guess you get

00:23:12.259 --> 00:23:13.819
my point, though. I feel like that's why people

00:23:13.819 --> 00:23:18.039
are more into memories. is the point yeah on

00:23:18.039 --> 00:23:21.279
that i mean families aren't as much of a cohesive

00:23:21.279 --> 00:23:24.359
unit as they used to be you know they're they're

00:23:24.359 --> 00:23:25.880
not staying in the same house they're not staying

00:23:25.880 --> 00:23:28.900
on the same land they're spreading out a lot

00:23:28.900 --> 00:23:31.000
more and a lot further than they ever used to

00:23:31.000 --> 00:23:40.819
so yeah but i i get that uh gibbles do you want

00:23:40.819 --> 00:23:42.700
to take the next section or you want uh you want

00:23:42.700 --> 00:23:47.769
to wait till the next one the victorian hair

00:23:47.769 --> 00:23:50.769
versus silicon avatars right now we just did

00:23:50.769 --> 00:23:59.089
that one oh it was in the stack yeah oh explain

00:23:59.089 --> 00:24:06.849
how you only virtual uses fursonas it yeah it's

00:24:06.849 --> 00:24:10.269
not just a chat bot it's trained on unique relationship

00:24:10.269 --> 00:24:14.700
data specific jokes your shorthand compared to

00:24:14.700 --> 00:24:18.359
movie transcendence for memory and yeah it kind

00:24:18.359 --> 00:24:21.960
of is like that however didn't in transcendence

00:24:21.960 --> 00:24:25.920
they uh copied his brain yeah and it's kind of

00:24:25.920 --> 00:24:30.539
the same um process to to the extent of they

00:24:30.539 --> 00:24:33.000
were doing literally a brain download in the

00:24:33.000 --> 00:24:35.420
movie right whereas here they're they're training

00:24:35.420 --> 00:24:38.680
an ai to do that instead of a brain dump but

00:24:38.680 --> 00:24:40.900
it's the same kind of outcome as what they're

00:24:40.900 --> 00:24:43.579
after with the exception of they're not trying

00:24:43.579 --> 00:24:47.500
to actually copy somebody like this is just intended

00:24:47.500 --> 00:24:54.000
to be a a mimic more or less it it does reaction

00:24:54.000 --> 00:24:56.960
based on all of your old conversations text messages

00:24:56.960 --> 00:24:59.920
voicemails that kind of thing right so it does

00:24:59.920 --> 00:25:02.599
like a rough approximation but does not add to

00:25:02.599 --> 00:25:07.039
well this is our thoughts from now it it does

00:25:07.039 --> 00:25:12.259
add to because as things progress They will learn.

00:25:12.299 --> 00:25:16.019
Yeah. And, and they, they will grow a little

00:25:16.019 --> 00:25:20.180
bit. So we also run the risk of corporate slot,

00:25:20.440 --> 00:25:23.720
you know, basically this is the fun part. Yeah.

00:25:23.859 --> 00:25:26.779
You know, the AI starts to hallucinate or, uh,

00:25:26.880 --> 00:25:30.660
if you will kind of like a dark mirror or black

00:25:30.660 --> 00:25:34.000
mirror, whatever you call it, God, um, you know,

00:25:34.019 --> 00:25:36.880
your digital mother starts recommending a specific

00:25:36.880 --> 00:25:40.410
brand of cereal. Or quoting a politician she

00:25:40.410 --> 00:25:45.049
hated who owns that mistake. Yeah. Oh, okay.

00:25:45.109 --> 00:25:47.630
I'm talking to my deceased brother and all of

00:25:47.630 --> 00:25:50.049
a sudden he starts quoting off, you know, the

00:25:50.049 --> 00:25:52.609
latest, you know, fishing rod. Cause he likes

00:25:52.609 --> 00:25:55.869
fishing and he's like, Hey, if you go to Amazon,

00:25:55.950 --> 00:25:57.930
you might be able to get this particular fishing

00:25:57.930 --> 00:26:02.309
rod for 1999. And you know, stupid shit like

00:26:02.309 --> 00:26:08.299
that. Yeah. So right now, if corporations, put

00:26:08.299 --> 00:26:11.299
ads for when my dead relatives are talking to

00:26:11.299 --> 00:26:15.460
me, I will happily burn the entire place down

00:26:15.460 --> 00:26:19.119
while I do it. I don't even need that. That would

00:26:19.119 --> 00:26:23.380
be the most rage -inducing thing possible. Oh,

00:26:23.380 --> 00:26:28.799
yeah. So the Black Mirror reference there, one

00:26:28.799 --> 00:26:31.720
of the most recent, I think it was the most recent

00:26:31.720 --> 00:26:36.339
season of Black Mirror, the guy was keeping his

00:26:36.339 --> 00:26:40.109
wife alive. Yeah. And the plan that they had,

00:26:40.210 --> 00:26:44.210
they started having her spew out ads. She didn't

00:26:44.210 --> 00:26:46.609
realize that she was doing it. She blanked out

00:26:46.609 --> 00:26:49.250
while the ads were being broadcast through her,

00:26:49.369 --> 00:26:54.450
but she didn't know about it. And people thought

00:26:54.450 --> 00:26:57.630
she was going nuts. Yeah. And then when she started,

00:26:57.690 --> 00:27:00.190
what was it like? She was in a classroom with

00:27:00.190 --> 00:27:02.980
little kids. She started doing advertisements

00:27:02.980 --> 00:27:07.000
that were really adult in nature, and they kicked

00:27:07.000 --> 00:27:10.940
her out of school because of it. Yeah. One was

00:27:10.940 --> 00:27:15.599
like a therapy ad for one of the kids. So, yeah.

00:27:16.799 --> 00:27:19.319
It's all funny games until your grandma starts

00:27:19.319 --> 00:27:23.299
recommending sex toys. Oh, God. It's all funny

00:27:23.299 --> 00:27:26.440
games until that AI starts. Granny, I don't need

00:27:26.440 --> 00:27:31.400
you to tell me about Bad Dragon. No. With the

00:27:31.400 --> 00:27:36.119
inclusive demonstration, no! Fuck you for the

00:27:36.119 --> 00:27:39.400
last part. That's terrible. Grandma, stay away

00:27:39.400 --> 00:27:45.420
from the sex queens, I swear to God. It's...

00:27:45.420 --> 00:27:49.759
Oh, man. Oh, gebbos, take a ride on that latest

00:27:49.759 --> 00:27:54.359
bad dragon. Oh, God. I would beat my phone across

00:27:54.359 --> 00:27:59.910
the goddamn wall so fast. You have no idea. We'll

00:27:59.910 --> 00:28:05.630
make some fresh tapioca pudding for you. I would

00:28:05.630 --> 00:28:08.170
probably be puking out the hole in the wall.

00:28:08.730 --> 00:28:12.630
We still have people watching this after that.

00:28:13.150 --> 00:28:22.250
I apologize for my friend. My God. We'll make

00:28:22.250 --> 00:28:27.650
some extra chunky clam chowder. There's a reason

00:28:27.650 --> 00:28:29.730
why we all only meet up once or twice a year

00:28:29.730 --> 00:28:31.950
and we purposely harass each other with an IHOP.

00:28:35.349 --> 00:28:38.849
I'm still impressed you let us in there. Oh,

00:28:39.029 --> 00:28:41.869
I don't know if they will Labor Day. I don't

00:28:41.869 --> 00:28:45.859
know if they will. We go there this year. oh

00:28:45.859 --> 00:28:48.359
man you got hair on your ass unless one of us

00:28:48.359 --> 00:28:51.539
goes in first going all my friends are here they're

00:28:51.539 --> 00:28:54.559
as big as me and we're off the wagon tonight

00:28:54.559 --> 00:29:01.099
from our jenny craig diet and put the kids away

00:29:01.099 --> 00:29:03.759
because last time children disappeared and that's

00:29:03.759 --> 00:29:14.519
a damn shame oh all right so You guys have asked

00:29:14.519 --> 00:29:19.660
about the legal points. So we will pivot back

00:29:19.660 --> 00:29:25.420
into the brown eye of the law of denial. Let's

00:29:25.420 --> 00:29:29.720
do this without the pink eye. Yes. Two in the

00:29:29.720 --> 00:29:32.940
pink, one in the stink. That's correct. So a

00:29:32.940 --> 00:29:35.240
little bit of a deep dive into the California

00:29:35.240 --> 00:29:39.319
bill. Again, it was Senate Bill 243, the companion

00:29:39.319 --> 00:29:43.549
chatbot law. It went into effect on January 1st

00:29:43.549 --> 00:29:47.230
of this year. Some of the key provisions were

00:29:47.230 --> 00:29:52.410
that bots must state they are AI if a reasonable

00:29:52.410 --> 00:29:57.769
person would be misled. There's a minor rule

00:29:57.769 --> 00:30:01.450
included in this. If a child is talking to a

00:30:01.450 --> 00:30:04.509
grief bot, the system must issue a break reminder

00:30:04.509 --> 00:30:08.369
every three hours and remind them this is not

00:30:08.369 --> 00:30:15.740
a human. So the philosophical friction, why does

00:30:15.740 --> 00:30:18.420
the state feel the need to intervene in our grief?

00:30:19.079 --> 00:30:22.259
Because the simulation is becoming more convincing

00:30:22.259 --> 00:30:25.660
than the absence. And a follow -up question,

00:30:26.000 --> 00:30:29.240
who decides what's reasonable? That's literally

00:30:29.240 --> 00:30:30.839
the first thing I thought of when you said that

00:30:30.839 --> 00:30:35.480
sentence. Jesus Christ. I don't think, I hate

00:30:35.480 --> 00:30:37.859
to be this person, but if anybody's using a grief

00:30:37.859 --> 00:30:40.420
bot to deal with their grief. I think the phrase

00:30:40.420 --> 00:30:44.319
reasonable has gone out the window. Yeah. I'm

00:30:44.319 --> 00:30:46.119
not using that to demean anybody because I get

00:30:46.119 --> 00:30:48.059
it. Some people, they don't have family or friends.

00:30:48.099 --> 00:30:49.980
They don't have anyone to talk to. If it could

00:30:49.980 --> 00:30:54.680
truly help somebody, I'm with it. However, bots

00:30:54.680 --> 00:30:56.859
must state whether they're an AI. If a reasonable

00:30:56.859 --> 00:30:59.119
person would be misled, no. It should be for

00:30:59.119 --> 00:31:01.480
any and all instances. There shouldn't be any

00:31:01.480 --> 00:31:04.380
allowance for anywhere else. It should be, hey,

00:31:04.400 --> 00:31:07.400
if this is an AI or a human facsimile or anything

00:31:07.400 --> 00:31:08.900
like that that's trying to replicate being a

00:31:08.900 --> 00:31:10.140
person. It should be disclosed. It should be

00:31:10.140 --> 00:31:14.160
disclosed, clearly stated, and you should have

00:31:14.160 --> 00:31:15.799
to click a button that acknowledges that I accept

00:31:15.799 --> 00:31:19.140
that this is an AI facsimile, human program,

00:31:19.299 --> 00:31:21.960
whatever. It is not a person. You should have

00:31:21.960 --> 00:31:23.940
to click and accept that for every single thing.

00:31:24.299 --> 00:31:26.859
Because, alternatively, you should have the legal

00:31:26.859 --> 00:31:30.200
right to talk to somebody that's not an AI. Yep.

00:31:30.200 --> 00:31:33.220
That needs to be allowed for any sort of... chat

00:31:33.220 --> 00:31:36.599
any sort of customer service anything that way

00:31:36.599 --> 00:31:39.380
this bakes into the law that if you want to use

00:31:39.380 --> 00:31:42.079
ai to get it done quicker cool you can if you're

00:31:42.079 --> 00:31:43.740
doing something stupid like a return returning

00:31:43.740 --> 00:31:47.140
a package off amazon who cares but in the case

00:31:47.140 --> 00:31:50.160
of like this like if they're a grief thing or

00:31:50.160 --> 00:31:52.279
like a self -deletion hotline or something like

00:31:52.279 --> 00:31:54.880
that or anything else like you really really

00:31:54.880 --> 00:31:58.420
really need to be able well a self -deletion

00:31:58.420 --> 00:32:00.200
hotline that took me i can't see the other one

00:32:00.640 --> 00:32:03.880
But if you get what I'm saying, I think that

00:32:03.880 --> 00:32:09.039
needs to be forefront and obvious and clear as

00:32:09.039 --> 00:32:12.440
day. I hate the fact that it's only acceptable

00:32:12.440 --> 00:32:14.380
if a reasonable person might think it's fooled.

00:32:14.480 --> 00:32:17.400
No. Because then the problem is it obfuscates

00:32:17.400 --> 00:32:19.559
responsibility. And then they can say, well,

00:32:19.700 --> 00:32:21.680
you know, we didn't think it was a reasonable,

00:32:21.839 --> 00:32:25.680
you know. Okay, so let me ask you this. How many

00:32:25.680 --> 00:32:28.849
times do you read the terms and... conditions

00:32:28.849 --> 00:32:35.210
before you click i agree uh not very often but

00:32:35.210 --> 00:32:39.809
i'm also at from a mental standpoint accepting

00:32:39.809 --> 00:32:42.670
the fact that at some point i could be accidentally

00:32:42.670 --> 00:32:45.430
agreeing that i'm going to become part of a human

00:32:45.430 --> 00:32:48.569
centipede so okay let me ask you this did you

00:32:48.569 --> 00:32:51.690
guys watch three body problem digital centipede

00:32:51.690 --> 00:32:57.410
that's awesome also no i did not I've watched

00:32:57.410 --> 00:33:00.809
about halfway through. Okay, there was a part

00:33:00.809 --> 00:33:05.130
in Three -Body Problem where a guy was agreeing

00:33:05.130 --> 00:33:09.349
to give his brain to the program. To do that,

00:33:09.349 --> 00:33:13.049
he had to go through the self -deletion process.

00:33:14.670 --> 00:33:18.450
There was this multi -step process that he had

00:33:18.450 --> 00:33:21.829
to go through. He had to answer yes several times

00:33:21.829 --> 00:33:24.769
before he could actually get to the final one.

00:33:25.700 --> 00:33:29.099
Some kind of a, I have to read through this and

00:33:29.099 --> 00:33:32.400
answer a question about what I just read to make

00:33:32.400 --> 00:33:35.759
sure that I read what I just read kind of thing

00:33:35.759 --> 00:33:38.500
could be put in place to make sure that you understand

00:33:38.500 --> 00:33:43.579
you're talking to a bot. And that's how you can

00:33:43.579 --> 00:33:46.059
get around the terms and conditions type of scenario.

00:33:49.559 --> 00:33:55.859
There was a lot to say that, but you know. I

00:33:55.859 --> 00:33:57.180
think especially too, if you're talking about

00:33:57.180 --> 00:34:01.720
the minor role with kids, you know, I don't trust

00:34:01.720 --> 00:34:03.440
this technology enough to be allowed for kids

00:34:03.440 --> 00:34:04.660
with something like that. I really feel like

00:34:04.660 --> 00:34:07.519
that it's been like an 18 plus only thing. I

00:34:07.519 --> 00:34:09.920
agree with you. If a kid's dealing with grief,

00:34:10.059 --> 00:34:12.119
I really feel like they need to talk to people,

00:34:12.219 --> 00:34:16.239
people or a licensed professional or a family

00:34:16.239 --> 00:34:19.699
member or someone that can help them. Cause like,

00:34:19.719 --> 00:34:21.400
again, that's why if they're in school, that's

00:34:21.400 --> 00:34:23.019
why they have school counselors and other, other

00:34:23.019 --> 00:34:27.969
resources available. That's like those 800 numbers.

00:34:28.789 --> 00:34:30.510
Yeah, I was going to say it would be like the

00:34:30.510 --> 00:34:34.010
800 numbers back in the day talking to what's

00:34:34.010 --> 00:34:36.590
-her -name, you know, for the tarot cards and

00:34:36.590 --> 00:34:38.710
all that. You know, if you're a kid, you weren't

00:34:38.710 --> 00:34:41.369
doing that. But an adult, you understood, okay,

00:34:41.550 --> 00:34:45.809
you know, this isn't real. Right. But I think

00:34:45.809 --> 00:34:47.429
for a kid with the AI thing, that can get out

00:34:47.429 --> 00:34:50.269
of hand really quick. Yeah. And a kid might not

00:34:50.269 --> 00:34:53.849
know where the line is and if they rely on it

00:34:53.849 --> 00:34:56.340
too much. What happens if a 12 -year -old is

00:34:56.340 --> 00:34:58.300
dealing with the loss of their mom or their dad

00:34:58.300 --> 00:34:59.760
or a close family member or something like that,

00:34:59.840 --> 00:35:03.800
and it becomes not a crutch to lean on for a

00:35:03.800 --> 00:35:04.980
day or maybe to help them through something?

00:35:05.079 --> 00:35:06.760
What if it becomes something they're reliant

00:35:06.760 --> 00:35:10.380
on every day? Or it becomes something more than

00:35:10.380 --> 00:35:12.219
what it's supposed to be? And with how we've

00:35:12.219 --> 00:35:15.980
seen how adaptive AI is, even today, let alone

00:35:15.980 --> 00:35:18.780
a few years from now, that could get really weird.

00:35:19.559 --> 00:35:22.019
Because we've already seen kids, unfortunately,

00:35:22.219 --> 00:35:25.949
have very... unhealthy relationships with technology

00:35:25.949 --> 00:35:30.010
even just with the way things are today let alone

00:35:30.010 --> 00:35:33.489
where this could go in a few years yeah yeah

00:35:33.489 --> 00:35:37.949
and um the the thing about having the kids talking

00:35:37.949 --> 00:35:39.690
to people and whatnot the only other thing i

00:35:39.690 --> 00:35:42.449
could think of that would be acceptable is having

00:35:42.449 --> 00:35:45.710
them talking to a vr representative that's actually

00:35:45.710 --> 00:35:48.230
like a person that just looks like a dog that's

00:35:48.230 --> 00:35:50.940
talking to them that's that's different And I

00:35:50.940 --> 00:35:55.300
know you get that reference. Oh, yeah. But as

00:35:55.300 --> 00:36:00.280
long as I feel like with kids. You got to have

00:36:00.280 --> 00:36:03.079
more control with it. Oh, yeah. I guess that's

00:36:03.079 --> 00:36:05.300
kind of my fear, because, boy, if you don't put

00:36:05.300 --> 00:36:07.480
any lockdowns on this stuff and just let kids

00:36:07.480 --> 00:36:10.840
roam free with that. Yeah. Holy hell. Especially

00:36:10.840 --> 00:36:14.199
what happens if the grief AI is the only area

00:36:14.199 --> 00:36:17.420
that kids have unfettered access to. And they

00:36:17.420 --> 00:36:20.280
use it to do shit that's illicit or illegal or

00:36:20.280 --> 00:36:22.860
whatever. Because you can convince an AI to do

00:36:22.860 --> 00:36:24.579
some crazy stuff even if you outright tell it

00:36:24.579 --> 00:36:28.420
not to do it. Yeah, I think these AI would be

00:36:28.420 --> 00:36:31.820
pretty locked down. But you're right. I mean,

00:36:31.840 --> 00:36:35.179
there's no telling what kind of safeties you

00:36:35.179 --> 00:36:37.820
can get around if you talk to it the right way.

00:36:39.219 --> 00:36:42.679
Well, not only that, you also have the situation

00:36:42.679 --> 00:36:45.420
where you know about Razor coming out with their

00:36:45.420 --> 00:36:49.079
own. new virtual ai companion for your desktop

00:36:49.079 --> 00:36:53.719
yeah i saw that the digital waifu yeah yeah the

00:36:53.719 --> 00:36:58.300
hologram yeah it's using grok and like i was

00:36:58.300 --> 00:37:01.420
telling you guys earlier that stuff is uh it's

00:37:01.420 --> 00:37:06.940
getting you know that whole it's there but just

00:37:06.940 --> 00:37:11.179
enough that your brain's still going wtf wow

00:37:11.179 --> 00:37:15.460
and it kind of just very disconcerting so I can

00:37:15.460 --> 00:37:18.260
only imagine seeing something maybe the size

00:37:18.260 --> 00:37:21.960
of my glass you know sitting on my desk with

00:37:21.960 --> 00:37:25.360
a little tiny holographic waifu or whatever and

00:37:25.360 --> 00:37:28.219
you're just talking to them could you imagine

00:37:28.219 --> 00:37:32.019
like you make that into grandma or whatever just

00:37:32.019 --> 00:37:33.800
sitting on your desk hey grandma how you doing

00:37:33.800 --> 00:37:39.159
today people will get sucked into their own little

00:37:39.159 --> 00:37:43.559
world uh -huh so fast without vr without anything

00:37:43.559 --> 00:37:46.500
else that'll literally be they check up on family

00:37:46.500 --> 00:37:47.760
members that have already died and they just

00:37:47.760 --> 00:37:49.239
tell them what they want tell them what they

00:37:49.239 --> 00:37:53.219
want here Yeah. Just be the reaffirming supportive

00:37:53.219 --> 00:37:56.340
person. Meanwhile, you're describing horrors

00:37:56.340 --> 00:37:59.820
beyond imagined. Just like this Jeffrey Dahmer

00:37:59.820 --> 00:38:01.920
type of guy describing, oh, I just felt like

00:38:01.920 --> 00:38:04.619
murdering, doing all this other stuff. This robot's

00:38:04.619 --> 00:38:06.920
like, you know, honey, I remember when we did

00:38:06.920 --> 00:38:09.659
that trip back to the lake house in 2016. You

00:38:09.659 --> 00:38:12.380
were just such a good boy. If you just believe

00:38:12.380 --> 00:38:14.679
in yourself, you could be a good boy. Yes, I

00:38:14.679 --> 00:38:17.460
could be a good boy. I could do it. Then you

00:38:17.460 --> 00:38:19.159
just end up on the news in the worst way possible.

00:38:19.340 --> 00:38:24.619
I feel like this could go really bad. Okay, so

00:38:24.619 --> 00:38:32.739
while you were talking about that, I had a thought.

00:38:33.079 --> 00:38:39.880
What if this is also used by people who just

00:38:39.880 --> 00:38:44.139
simulate the people that they wanted to have

00:38:44.139 --> 00:38:48.670
in their lives? You know, the ones that got away

00:38:48.670 --> 00:38:56.590
type deal. Oh, that way. Yeah. Oh, no. Because

00:38:56.590 --> 00:39:00.110
I'm sure this tech can be used that way. Yeah.

00:39:03.550 --> 00:39:05.690
And they start developing full -on relationships

00:39:05.690 --> 00:39:10.969
with those digital waifus and bonding it with

00:39:10.969 --> 00:39:16.159
this kind of a tech. Could you imagine? I got

00:39:16.159 --> 00:39:19.679
one for you. A stalker. He knows that the person

00:39:19.679 --> 00:39:24.440
he's been stalking passed away. Now, digitally,

00:39:24.539 --> 00:39:27.960
that person's now in their afterlife in the digital

00:39:27.960 --> 00:39:30.539
realm. Now they get to stalk them while they're

00:39:30.539 --> 00:39:34.500
digital. For $24 .99 a month, they can be hit.

00:39:34.559 --> 00:39:41.969
There's forever. You know, If someone could do

00:39:41.969 --> 00:39:44.130
that in lieu of stalking a real person, I feel

00:39:44.130 --> 00:39:46.829
like that trade -off's worth it. If it's a fake

00:39:46.829 --> 00:39:48.690
person and they're not, but the problem is I

00:39:48.690 --> 00:39:49.929
feel like for some people that would embolden

00:39:49.929 --> 00:39:53.110
them to do even more. Some people would be like,

00:39:53.130 --> 00:39:54.769
this will satiate, whereas other people would

00:39:54.769 --> 00:39:57.010
be like, but that means I can stalk the real

00:39:57.010 --> 00:40:00.090
person. It would just get weird. That's like

00:40:00.090 --> 00:40:03.909
if the argument would be almost like a pedophile

00:40:03.909 --> 00:40:08.269
with a sex doll. At what point is what's too

00:40:08.269 --> 00:40:12.099
far or too much at that point? Where's that line?

00:40:12.920 --> 00:40:14.699
And that's kind of what I was going to say is

00:40:14.699 --> 00:40:16.780
that's probably going to be the next step is

00:40:16.780 --> 00:40:18.800
going from the digital waifu to ordering the

00:40:18.800 --> 00:40:23.300
sex doll that just looks like them. Right. Using

00:40:23.300 --> 00:40:26.239
the AI to get what they want. I swear to God

00:40:26.239 --> 00:40:32.139
a razor makes a fucking genitalia update. You

00:40:32.139 --> 00:40:37.280
know, it's like, oh, you know, your companion

00:40:37.280 --> 00:40:40.639
assistant here can now assist you in all these

00:40:40.639 --> 00:40:47.900
more interactive ways. It's crazy. This motor

00:40:47.900 --> 00:40:50.980
just clips onto the table and it just, yeah,

00:40:51.199 --> 00:40:53.780
it's wild. It just, you know, it's used for whatever

00:40:53.780 --> 00:40:58.239
you think. Just use your imagination. Yeah, no.

00:40:59.190 --> 00:41:01.789
It's a finger cleaner. Get it right. Or it's

00:41:01.789 --> 00:41:05.570
a dog paw cleaner. Oh, man. So nice that you

00:41:05.570 --> 00:41:06.570
think so highly of yourself. It's a vegetable

00:41:06.570 --> 00:41:11.489
washer. It's a vegetable washer. But there are

00:41:11.489 --> 00:41:13.750
a lot of people, I feel like, and this goes back

00:41:13.750 --> 00:41:16.730
a bit to our dating episode we were talking about,

00:41:16.889 --> 00:41:19.309
where I think enough people are just completely

00:41:19.309 --> 00:41:22.210
opting out of the dating world that some people

00:41:22.210 --> 00:41:25.670
will choose the AI companion. Oh, 100%. They

00:41:25.670 --> 00:41:28.679
will choose to say, hey. like what you brought

00:41:28.679 --> 00:41:30.039
up that you never thought about before oh this

00:41:30.039 --> 00:41:31.699
person that got away like maybe they were your

00:41:31.699 --> 00:41:33.099
first love in high school or something like that

00:41:33.099 --> 00:41:35.619
or in college or something else whatever they'll

00:41:35.619 --> 00:41:37.480
just grab all their information off of instagram

00:41:37.480 --> 00:41:39.460
or facebook or whatever upload everything you

00:41:39.460 --> 00:41:41.980
just be like yep that's my fantasy that that's

00:41:41.980 --> 00:41:46.139
or or since people so freely post all their stuff

00:41:46.139 --> 00:41:49.360
on instagram and the socials they can download

00:41:49.360 --> 00:41:52.159
all that information and model their doll after

00:41:52.159 --> 00:41:54.760
that that's what i'm saying yeah and they can

00:41:54.760 --> 00:41:57.750
get the personality off the reels They can literally

00:41:57.750 --> 00:42:01.829
just have a fake relationship with someone that

00:42:01.829 --> 00:42:04.010
they might not even know. And people would, especially

00:42:04.010 --> 00:42:10.329
with celebrities. Oh, 100%. On Facebook, there's

00:42:10.329 --> 00:42:13.130
35 ,870 people dating Sidney Sweeney. I don't

00:42:13.130 --> 00:42:15.309
know how that fucking happened. That's like the

00:42:15.309 --> 00:42:20.570
episode of Futurama. Yeah. Yeah. Bender was dating

00:42:20.570 --> 00:42:24.250
Lucy Liu or something like that. Yep. The Lucy

00:42:24.250 --> 00:42:31.420
Liu bot. Yep. Yep. Yeah. Good times. But every

00:42:31.420 --> 00:42:33.260
time they scanned the head, they were, like,

00:42:33.260 --> 00:42:38.019
shocked. Like, ah! Get me out of here, Bender!

00:42:41.679 --> 00:42:44.940
That would be weird. Like, if you were a celebrity,

00:42:45.280 --> 00:42:50.000
and you just see your hashtag is, like, in love

00:42:50.000 --> 00:42:51.739
with this blank celebrity look, and it's just

00:42:51.739 --> 00:42:53.699
people just doing weird shit with your avatar

00:42:53.699 --> 00:42:55.980
version of yourself or whatever on their desk.

00:42:57.670 --> 00:43:01.869
Only a psychopath would enjoy that. Oh, have

00:43:01.869 --> 00:43:09.730
you been to the U .S.? There are some weird fucking

00:43:09.730 --> 00:43:15.690
people, man. Yeah, that is true. What? No. I'm

00:43:15.690 --> 00:43:18.760
talking about the celebrity side, though. Oh,

00:43:18.760 --> 00:43:21.119
yeah. Yeah, they're all fucking weird. It's going

00:43:21.119 --> 00:43:23.500
to be the Britney Spears, you know, the love

00:43:23.500 --> 00:43:25.320
doll situation. She's just going to be like...

00:43:25.320 --> 00:43:28.000
Maybe that's what's wrong with her. Now, let

00:43:28.000 --> 00:43:31.519
me pose the other half of the argument. Who is

00:43:31.519 --> 00:43:33.039
going to be the first celebrity to embrace it

00:43:33.039 --> 00:43:35.679
and become a trillionaire? Oh, God. And say,

00:43:35.860 --> 00:43:38.400
oh, yeah, for an additional $3 .99 a month, you

00:43:38.400 --> 00:43:41.300
could have me. Or whoever. It's like Sidney Sweeney

00:43:41.300 --> 00:43:47.420
or Megan Fox or whoever. Lizzo. So is that like

00:43:47.420 --> 00:43:51.860
sloppy seconds or something like that? Not even

00:43:51.860 --> 00:43:55.619
touching that one. It's not even sloppy seconds

00:43:55.619 --> 00:43:58.360
anymore. It's just like it's so far out there.

00:43:58.400 --> 00:44:02.059
It's like not even worth mentioning. But you

00:44:02.059 --> 00:44:05.960
get my point. Like this could be the money -making

00:44:05.960 --> 00:44:08.679
opportunity of a lifetime for a lot of these

00:44:08.679 --> 00:44:11.079
celebrities that once that comes out, if you

00:44:11.079 --> 00:44:14.739
jump on board that bandwagon. Yeah. Well, okay,

00:44:14.820 --> 00:44:18.739
realistically, any big OnlyFans creator, any

00:44:18.739 --> 00:44:26.320
big porn star, any big actress that's just sought

00:44:26.320 --> 00:44:31.079
after, somebody like Jenna Ortega could literally

00:44:31.079 --> 00:44:34.539
go down that line without ever actually posing

00:44:34.539 --> 00:44:40.980
nude and could make a gajillion dollars. Just

00:44:40.980 --> 00:44:43.500
by doing that, offering up her avatar for that.

00:44:45.400 --> 00:44:48.239
Yeah, things are going to get really weird. But

00:44:48.239 --> 00:44:50.500
it's going to happen. Mark my words, one of them.

00:44:50.519 --> 00:44:52.340
I don't know which one, but one of them is going

00:44:52.340 --> 00:44:53.800
to see the money -making opportunity and say,

00:44:53.920 --> 00:44:58.480
you know, I'll do it. Yeah. It's probably going

00:44:58.480 --> 00:45:01.380
to be a porn star. Probably. It'll either be

00:45:01.380 --> 00:45:05.760
a porn star or somebody that's got a very high

00:45:05.760 --> 00:45:08.860
opinion of themselves. I feel like Amaranth would

00:45:08.860 --> 00:45:12.659
be the first person to do that. Yes, Amaranth

00:45:12.659 --> 00:45:16.860
would probably be very high on that list. The

00:45:16.860 --> 00:45:19.179
girl that sang the Anaconda song would be on

00:45:19.179 --> 00:45:23.360
that list. And then after you get somebody to

00:45:23.360 --> 00:45:25.699
do that, how long would it take before you get

00:45:25.699 --> 00:45:30.800
a video of their avatar getting just mutilated

00:45:30.800 --> 00:45:36.150
by somebody? Oh, God. I mean, there's a Reddit

00:45:36.150 --> 00:45:38.829
for everything. That's what I'm saying. We are

00:45:38.829 --> 00:45:42.309
in America, so there's a little something for

00:45:42.309 --> 00:45:45.030
everybody. That's something that ends up on FetLife

00:45:45.030 --> 00:45:48.210
on Reddit, so there you go. See, the problem

00:45:48.210 --> 00:45:50.510
is there'll be a whole subreddit for torture

00:45:50.510 --> 00:45:53.289
AI. Yeah. For people torturing their AI companions,

00:45:53.530 --> 00:45:58.050
too. Oh, yeah. Again, what if Hear Me Out politicians

00:45:58.050 --> 00:46:00.289
sold their AIs purposely for people to date,

00:46:00.329 --> 00:46:03.250
but also for people to torture and do... If they

00:46:03.250 --> 00:46:05.210
really don't like this politician, but they're

00:46:05.210 --> 00:46:07.309
like, fuck it, you might hate me so much, but

00:46:07.309 --> 00:46:10.989
I can raise money for my next campaign. I could

00:46:10.989 --> 00:46:14.030
see J .D. Vance doing that. He already embraces

00:46:14.030 --> 00:46:17.429
the meme. I could see Ocasio -Cortez doing that.

00:46:17.869 --> 00:46:22.010
Oh, God. The things people would do. I would

00:46:22.010 --> 00:46:28.989
not listen. I've had crazy people tell me I'm

00:46:28.989 --> 00:46:30.869
crazy before, but then they were just like, I'm

00:46:30.869 --> 00:46:35.340
not touching that. Nope. I'm crazy, but no. To

00:46:35.340 --> 00:46:38.619
be fair, it's the AI version, so it has no...

00:46:38.619 --> 00:46:42.539
Yeah. Maybe if you have a crazy setting, you

00:46:42.539 --> 00:46:46.139
can dial it back, you know? Oh, if you had an

00:46:46.139 --> 00:46:48.420
adjustable crazy setting, dude, that'd be amazing.

00:46:48.860 --> 00:46:49.840
Yeah, that would be, like, standard, I would

00:46:49.840 --> 00:46:52.480
assume. Could do it, like, on the good place

00:46:52.480 --> 00:46:55.440
with the AI, where every time you go to hit the

00:46:55.440 --> 00:46:58.280
button to reset her, she just freaks out, like,

00:46:58.360 --> 00:47:03.090
no, no, no, no, click. Oh, God. You could take

00:47:03.090 --> 00:47:05.389
some spicy cubes and turn the crazy up to 10

00:47:05.389 --> 00:47:08.150
and have a real good night. Oh, Jesus Christ.

00:47:08.469 --> 00:47:17.429
Oh, God, Pip. Here we go. Sorry. My pants can

00:47:17.429 --> 00:47:19.449
only contain so much. All right, so we should

00:47:19.449 --> 00:47:22.389
probably get back on track. Yeah, it was for

00:47:22.389 --> 00:47:30.570
sure. AI Bernie's here to ask for another donation.

00:47:31.949 --> 00:47:39.329
Sorry. Once again, come back from the grave to

00:47:39.329 --> 00:47:42.030
ask you for your support. I've come to ask you

00:47:42.030 --> 00:47:51.329
in my time of need. Oh, God. So are we at the

00:47:51.329 --> 00:47:52.750
point where we can have the legal discussion

00:47:52.750 --> 00:47:57.349
on this? Yes. So we've got... The psychology

00:47:57.349 --> 00:48:06.170
of the second death. Okay. Dr. Sarika Bora last

00:48:06.170 --> 00:48:11.550
year talked about how grief tech can lead to

00:48:11.550 --> 00:48:15.510
delayed grief or emotional stasis. And we've

00:48:15.510 --> 00:48:18.110
already kind of touched on that in several points.

00:48:18.570 --> 00:48:21.489
And one of those issues is the bankruptcy scenario.

00:48:22.150 --> 00:48:24.550
What happens if the company hosting your loved

00:48:24.550 --> 00:48:29.969
one's soul, goes bankrupt, or if the servers

00:48:29.969 --> 00:48:32.590
are wiped, or if they're hacked and held ransom,

00:48:32.809 --> 00:48:36.010
the family would essentially suffer a second

00:48:36.010 --> 00:48:39.429
death, which would be a sudden digital bereavement

00:48:39.429 --> 00:48:43.150
that can be just as, if not more, traumatic than

00:48:43.150 --> 00:48:45.909
the first. I mean, that's technically something

00:48:45.909 --> 00:48:49.090
that's sort of happened in a way now. Like, what

00:48:49.090 --> 00:48:53.070
was that, 21andMe or what the hell genetic company

00:48:53.070 --> 00:48:56.610
that they had to sell everything off? 23andMe,

00:48:56.670 --> 00:49:00.969
yeah. Yeah, 23andMe. And they declared bankruptcy,

00:49:01.010 --> 00:49:04.130
and now everybody's genetic material is just

00:49:04.130 --> 00:49:08.050
up on a list for sale. I've been spreading my

00:49:08.050 --> 00:49:10.050
genetic material around for years freely, so,

00:49:10.090 --> 00:49:13.690
I mean, that didn't bother me. I didn't put my

00:49:13.690 --> 00:49:16.630
genetic material around like that. But, you know,

00:49:16.650 --> 00:49:24.420
hey. The head shake of disappointment, man. I

00:49:24.420 --> 00:49:26.099
feel like you've got to offset it for the guys

00:49:26.099 --> 00:49:28.780
that never do anything. So, like, you've got

00:49:28.780 --> 00:49:33.639
to pick up the average, you know? Yeah. Oof.

00:49:34.980 --> 00:49:37.300
But, I mean, again, it's like the same thing

00:49:37.300 --> 00:49:42.960
in the end. Oh, yeah. Okay, so you have a company

00:49:42.960 --> 00:49:46.900
that, you know, like, gave Newell. He owns Steam.

00:49:47.500 --> 00:49:51.539
He runs it privately, and it's amazing. But at

00:49:51.539 --> 00:49:54.940
some point... The man's going to die, just like

00:49:54.940 --> 00:49:57.760
somebody owns this company where your loved ones

00:49:57.760 --> 00:50:01.599
are. What happens afterwards? The next person

00:50:01.599 --> 00:50:04.260
comes in, they decide, like, screw it, we're

00:50:04.260 --> 00:50:06.139
going to put advertisements everywhere. You're

00:50:06.139 --> 00:50:07.760
going to have to pay a monthly fee now to be

00:50:07.760 --> 00:50:10.860
able to keep all your stuff. Oh, grandma? No,

00:50:10.940 --> 00:50:13.340
grandma is now going to cost you $90 a month

00:50:13.340 --> 00:50:16.619
versus, you know, the $1 .99 before with no ads.

00:50:16.699 --> 00:50:19.199
Now grandma's going to talk about erectile dysfunction

00:50:19.199 --> 00:50:21.820
because you're not paying for the premium software.

00:50:23.340 --> 00:50:25.820
And they would do that shit. They would customize

00:50:25.820 --> 00:50:28.460
the ad so they'd be the most uncomfortable things

00:50:28.460 --> 00:50:32.739
for your loved ones to discuss just to make it

00:50:32.739 --> 00:50:35.400
that much easier for you to be willing to pay.

00:50:35.760 --> 00:50:40.679
Oh, Sonny, have you been taking your Viagra today?

00:50:42.539 --> 00:50:46.119
Are you baking some sourdough downstairs, darling?

00:50:47.539 --> 00:50:53.639
Get yourself some Vagiclean. I haven't watched

00:50:53.639 --> 00:50:58.199
that movie in a while. Dude, I don't need that.

00:50:58.380 --> 00:51:02.300
Oh, yes, you do. You know everything about you.

00:51:02.519 --> 00:51:07.679
Oh, God. So I think in order for this to be a

00:51:07.679 --> 00:51:10.860
legitimate thing in the U .S., we would have

00:51:10.860 --> 00:51:14.320
to discuss who actually owns the rights to that

00:51:14.320 --> 00:51:17.539
information. Yeah. Because like because like

00:51:17.539 --> 00:51:20.360
that. You're trading the fine line of if it's

00:51:20.360 --> 00:51:23.420
a person or not, but if it isn't, then who owns

00:51:23.420 --> 00:51:25.840
it? Because the company can't necessarily own

00:51:25.840 --> 00:51:29.360
someone else's memories. Right. But if you hand

00:51:29.360 --> 00:51:31.820
over it all to them, that might be part of their

00:51:31.820 --> 00:51:34.699
agreement that, hey, they own all the photos,

00:51:34.800 --> 00:51:36.900
memories, documents, everything that they're

00:51:36.900 --> 00:51:38.380
going to do. It's going to be a standard boilerplate

00:51:38.380 --> 00:51:41.219
kind of legal agreement. So then the problem

00:51:41.219 --> 00:51:43.610
is if they do go bankrupt. It does go bye -bye

00:51:43.610 --> 00:51:45.829
because you signed that agreement. I don't think

00:51:45.829 --> 00:51:47.170
there's any company that's going to be still

00:51:47.170 --> 00:51:48.889
willing to hand that back over to you because

00:51:48.889 --> 00:51:51.150
they're going to use all of that for somebody

00:51:51.150 --> 00:51:56.489
else's AI person. The data farming and the data

00:51:56.489 --> 00:51:59.409
points, all that shit, the metadata alone would

00:51:59.409 --> 00:52:03.869
be worth millions. Yeah. There's no way that

00:52:03.869 --> 00:52:07.250
would disappear. The only way that would work

00:52:07.250 --> 00:52:10.250
is if they uploaded it to a cloud and you were

00:52:10.250 --> 00:52:12.650
able to download it at any time. So that way

00:52:12.650 --> 00:52:15.250
you have access to it. So you can download it

00:52:15.250 --> 00:52:17.849
yourself. And the problem is, again, like upload,

00:52:18.030 --> 00:52:19.949
you're going to have your goddamn grandparents

00:52:19.949 --> 00:52:23.869
on a flash drive. They shut down. And you better

00:52:23.869 --> 00:52:26.190
hope you don't spill it or put it in water or

00:52:26.190 --> 00:52:30.690
something. Yeah. Or the battery dies. Like what

00:52:30.690 --> 00:52:32.349
Razer has, though, with that personal AI thing,

00:52:32.389 --> 00:52:34.269
where if you just plug your grandparents into

00:52:34.269 --> 00:52:36.329
that, now they're on the corner of your desk

00:52:36.329 --> 00:52:40.090
all the time. Yeah. You know? which that again

00:52:40.090 --> 00:52:41.730
seems like something out of an episode of black

00:52:41.730 --> 00:52:44.670
mirror yeah not sure how comfortable i'd feel

00:52:44.670 --> 00:52:46.469
with that you know especially if i decided to

00:52:46.469 --> 00:52:48.969
watch an adult film or something that grandma's

00:52:48.969 --> 00:52:53.030
just staring at me blankly the whole time not

00:52:53.030 --> 00:52:57.190
sure i'm good with that one oh the comments that's

00:52:57.190 --> 00:52:59.269
the problem because they're one comment away

00:52:59.269 --> 00:53:05.309
from traumatizing you forever You like this,

00:53:05.309 --> 00:53:09.250
Grandma? This is all your fault. Or what's going

00:53:09.250 --> 00:53:11.789
to happen, I'll tell you right now, someone is

00:53:11.789 --> 00:53:13.510
going to move Grandma and Grandpa into their

00:53:13.510 --> 00:53:15.610
kid's room because the parents are trying to

00:53:15.610 --> 00:53:17.710
get busy and the kids are going to be busy trying

00:53:17.710 --> 00:53:19.889
to do something. And they're going to look at

00:53:19.889 --> 00:53:22.670
Grandma and Grandpa staring at them in the middle

00:53:22.670 --> 00:53:24.849
of the night. Oh, yeah. You could do an entire

00:53:24.849 --> 00:53:28.230
comedy series about it. The AI would just be

00:53:28.230 --> 00:53:30.969
traumatized. It would be the first time AI needs

00:53:30.969 --> 00:53:34.519
therapy. Like you were saying, Gibbles, with

00:53:34.519 --> 00:53:38.820
it sitting there watching you, your digital grandma

00:53:38.820 --> 00:53:42.000
could be like, you know, your grandfather used

00:53:42.000 --> 00:53:44.260
to do something like that to me every night.

00:53:45.380 --> 00:53:49.199
And my therapy bills are going to increase. The

00:53:49.199 --> 00:53:51.179
VA is going to be like, no, we can't pay for

00:53:51.179 --> 00:53:55.019
that one. That's the worst. All activities have

00:53:55.019 --> 00:53:58.960
come to a halt. We're declaring a state of emergency

00:53:58.960 --> 00:54:01.360
in the bedroom. We are evacuating immediately.

00:54:03.920 --> 00:54:09.340
We will, we will. But I feel like that's the

00:54:09.340 --> 00:54:11.000
route we'd end up going. But I guess the other

00:54:11.000 --> 00:54:13.500
question would be, is do you have the legal right

00:54:13.500 --> 00:54:17.179
to copy someone without their permission? Well,

00:54:17.179 --> 00:54:22.349
so the last section in the notes here is, Titled

00:54:22.349 --> 00:54:27.650
The Exit Strategy. Introducing the concept of

00:54:27.650 --> 00:54:32.210
a digital will that you need to legally state

00:54:32.210 --> 00:54:37.469
if you don't want to be reanimated. Yeah. So

00:54:37.469 --> 00:54:40.630
stating in your will what you want done or not

00:54:40.630 --> 00:54:44.570
done specifically with your data after you're

00:54:44.570 --> 00:54:48.230
gone is something that going forward may have

00:54:48.230 --> 00:54:51.340
to be done. Yeah. Something like that. It would

00:54:51.340 --> 00:54:53.780
have to be, even if you don't have a will, unless

00:54:53.780 --> 00:54:55.860
you physically, you know, if you have something

00:54:55.860 --> 00:54:57.760
in right, unless you have something in writing,

00:54:57.860 --> 00:55:01.820
this can't be done. Unless you specifically have

00:55:01.820 --> 00:55:04.239
a will set up that says, Hey, you can use me

00:55:04.239 --> 00:55:08.599
virtually with the digital set up. Okay. We can

00:55:08.599 --> 00:55:10.800
do it, but there's no will. There's no documentation

00:55:10.800 --> 00:55:14.400
or nothing. Hey, guess what? Hands off. Can't

00:55:14.400 --> 00:55:16.860
do. Yeah. This would, this would be a whole different

00:55:16.860 --> 00:55:19.840
type of DNR order. Because there's the living

00:55:19.840 --> 00:55:22.760
DNR, and this will be the after I'm dead DNR.

00:55:22.800 --> 00:55:29.219
Do not reanimate. Right. DNR. So, yes. Do not

00:55:29.219 --> 00:55:32.199
resuscitate. Do not reanimate. That's a, yeah.

00:55:35.099 --> 00:55:37.920
So. I guess the question, too, is, like, for

00:55:37.920 --> 00:55:41.380
how long is that relevant? Because, like, for

00:55:41.380 --> 00:55:43.719
example, if a celebrity says do not reanimate

00:55:43.719 --> 00:55:47.510
and 100 years passes. Is anyone really going

00:55:47.510 --> 00:55:49.750
to care at that point? I wonder if the statute

00:55:49.750 --> 00:55:52.469
of limitations is going to be on that, depending

00:55:52.469 --> 00:55:54.329
on the person. Because let's be real. Let's just

00:55:54.329 --> 00:55:56.150
say, theoretically, Dwayne The Rock Johnson signs

00:55:56.150 --> 00:55:58.449
a thing saying, nope, can't reanimate it, can't

00:55:58.449 --> 00:56:00.750
do anything with it. How long do you think it'll

00:56:00.750 --> 00:56:04.710
be until some company is just going to buy the

00:56:04.710 --> 00:56:06.449
rights from the living family member or they're

00:56:06.449 --> 00:56:08.230
just going to do it anyway or find some legal

00:56:08.230 --> 00:56:13.130
loophole? So ideally, everything should or would

00:56:13.130 --> 00:56:16.900
be deleted about them. At that point, so that

00:56:16.900 --> 00:56:21.019
they could not. It ensures finality at that point.

00:56:21.440 --> 00:56:23.440
If you don't want to be reanimated digitally,

00:56:23.659 --> 00:56:25.980
all of your digital footprint would have to be

00:56:25.980 --> 00:56:29.980
erased. That's assuming people have access to

00:56:29.980 --> 00:56:32.659
that. Well, I mean, on Google. Direct it in your

00:56:32.659 --> 00:56:35.320
will. Yeah, I mean, on Google, they already have

00:56:35.320 --> 00:56:38.639
it. Yeah, but, no, let me ask you a question.

00:56:38.719 --> 00:56:39.940
Maybe it's just because I live with this, but.

00:56:40.360 --> 00:56:42.300
How many 85 or 90 -year -olds do you think remember

00:56:42.300 --> 00:56:43.820
their fucking passwords and all their social

00:56:43.820 --> 00:56:47.099
media stuff as of today? It's right here. It's

00:56:47.099 --> 00:56:49.179
right there. You tie it all into a thumbprint.

00:56:49.699 --> 00:56:52.739
You can get that after they pass. You can do

00:56:52.739 --> 00:56:56.300
that today. Yeah, but here's the thing. Maybe

00:56:56.300 --> 00:56:58.820
it's in my experience trying to get an 85 -year

00:56:58.820 --> 00:57:01.199
-old that does not like technology to do anything

00:57:01.199 --> 00:57:04.760
like that. I'd rather go build myself a Taj Mahal

00:57:04.760 --> 00:57:07.980
in the backyard. Trying to get a 30 -year -old

00:57:07.980 --> 00:57:11.199
to do something with digital anything these days

00:57:11.199 --> 00:57:16.480
is also pain in the ass. I get it. That might

00:57:16.480 --> 00:57:18.639
be a whole different episode that we talk about

00:57:18.639 --> 00:57:23.900
is how people are embracing the dumb tech. Just

00:57:23.900 --> 00:57:28.380
on a side note, Google has it where, say, if

00:57:28.380 --> 00:57:31.780
you're inactive for six months, whatever you

00:57:31.780 --> 00:57:35.469
specify, you know, cause you died, you know,

00:57:35.469 --> 00:57:38.409
you can have an emergency contact for that. So

00:57:38.409 --> 00:57:41.389
then you leave a message saying, Hey, you know,

00:57:41.389 --> 00:57:45.030
apparently I've died and you're responsible for

00:57:45.030 --> 00:57:48.409
all my information. Here you go. Or whatever

00:57:48.409 --> 00:57:51.269
it is you decide to set. You could do that with

00:57:51.269 --> 00:57:54.110
Apple accounts on, if you know that. Yeah. Yeah.

00:57:54.130 --> 00:57:56.010
Google has the same thing. I mean, you know,

00:57:56.010 --> 00:57:59.769
you can actually do that now. So I have it set

00:57:59.769 --> 00:58:02.719
up for my kids. So I do leave a little message

00:58:02.719 --> 00:58:10.800
saying, hey, scrub the history. Yeah. You might

00:58:10.800 --> 00:58:14.079
not want to see it. Click the unmarked folders.

00:58:15.019 --> 00:58:19.019
Yes. Just delete. That's it. Don't open that

00:58:19.019 --> 00:58:21.559
stuff unless you want years of therapy. Yes.

00:58:22.099 --> 00:58:25.380
You might be curious, but trust me, you're not

00:58:25.380 --> 00:58:34.739
curious enough. Yeah. So any other big thoughts,

00:58:35.139 --> 00:58:37.920
big questions, big scenarios that you guys had

00:58:37.920 --> 00:58:41.500
on this? Because I was hoping it would go a little

00:58:41.500 --> 00:58:43.639
longer, but we're actually at the end of it.

00:58:44.000 --> 00:58:46.380
What I was going to say is how many people are

00:58:46.380 --> 00:58:49.980
going to collect a bunch of those AI pod things

00:58:49.980 --> 00:58:55.840
and have a harem of celebrities with them? So

00:58:55.840 --> 00:58:59.429
that's kind of an interesting thought. There

00:58:59.429 --> 00:59:02.449
are probably going to be a whole cast of people

00:59:02.449 --> 00:59:07.590
who don't put the do not reanimate clauses into

00:59:07.590 --> 00:59:10.230
their stuff. And they don't really have anybody

00:59:10.230 --> 00:59:14.130
left after them to kind of keep after their stuff.

00:59:14.530 --> 00:59:17.409
So there could be like we have ambulance chasers

00:59:17.409 --> 00:59:20.409
that go after the accident victims and whatnot.

00:59:20.550 --> 00:59:23.469
I wonder if there's going to be information chasers.

00:59:23.929 --> 00:59:26.050
that go around and collect all the information

00:59:26.050 --> 00:59:29.210
of those that have recently departed, and they

00:59:29.210 --> 00:59:31.849
try to sell that to people so that they can have

00:59:31.849 --> 00:59:35.429
the girl of their dreams or the spouse or the

00:59:35.429 --> 00:59:38.510
husband of their dreams in the digital form.

00:59:39.150 --> 00:59:41.849
So, like, in the case of, say, somebody's got

00:59:41.849 --> 00:59:45.590
their freak on, they want the golden girls. Would

00:59:45.590 --> 00:59:48.210
they be able to do that? Because, you know, of

00:59:48.210 --> 00:59:52.199
course, they passed away before all this. But

00:59:52.199 --> 00:59:53.659
they could still try to recreate them. Could

00:59:53.659 --> 00:59:56.719
you still get away with that? It depends on who

00:59:56.719 --> 00:59:59.780
owns the rights. You know there's somebody out

00:59:59.780 --> 01:00:02.360
there that'd be like, I want all four. I want

01:00:02.360 --> 01:00:08.280
Bea Arthur. Yes. I want all of them. It's potentially

01:00:08.280 --> 01:00:10.559
possible, but it would probably fall into some

01:00:10.559 --> 01:00:12.519
kind of illegal gray zone because, like Gibbs

01:00:12.519 --> 01:00:15.219
said, depends on who owns the rights and whether

01:00:15.219 --> 01:00:17.340
or not they have anything set up to have that

01:00:17.340 --> 01:00:21.110
allowed or prevented. So here's... Here's my

01:00:21.110 --> 01:00:24.489
next part of the question. If you legally marry

01:00:24.489 --> 01:00:28.329
one of these AIs, is there going to be a whole

01:00:28.329 --> 01:00:31.849
legal thing for people hunting down people that

01:00:31.849 --> 01:00:36.449
have died that AI owns half of the estate? Oh,

01:00:36.449 --> 01:00:38.710
my God. And that goes to the person. It's like,

01:00:38.730 --> 01:00:41.269
let's just say theoretically, here's the trillion

01:00:41.269 --> 01:00:43.369
-dollar idea I wanted to get to now that we finally

01:00:43.369 --> 01:00:45.150
have the time I can discuss this. If you are

01:00:45.150 --> 01:00:47.530
somebody that is a rich, attractive woman in

01:00:47.530 --> 01:00:49.449
the U .S., what you do is you do this AI thing.

01:00:49.869 --> 01:00:53.289
Then you do it to where you are allowing them

01:00:53.289 --> 01:00:55.869
to marry the AI as long as they sign it like

01:00:55.869 --> 01:00:57.429
it's a legal document and they inherit everything,

01:00:57.550 --> 01:01:00.469
but that AI is a representative of you. Therefore,

01:01:00.630 --> 01:01:02.929
you, as the owner of it, get half of the shit.

01:01:04.769 --> 01:01:12.570
Oh, hell no. Nope. Nope. No way. I would be pirating

01:01:12.570 --> 01:01:19.210
that shit. Yeah. But you know. You know there

01:01:19.210 --> 01:01:22.550
are people out there. Yeah. People out there

01:01:22.550 --> 01:01:24.309
trying to marry a body pillow for fuck's sakes.

01:01:24.849 --> 01:01:27.550
Well, you had that dude that married the waifu

01:01:27.550 --> 01:01:30.070
thing before it got shut down. That's over in

01:01:30.070 --> 01:01:33.800
Japan. Or was it South Korea? It was one or the

01:01:33.800 --> 01:01:37.840
other, but I still feel bad for that guy. It's

01:01:37.840 --> 01:01:39.500
only going to get worse, boys. It's only going

01:01:39.500 --> 01:01:43.099
to get worse. Oh, yeah? Yeah, because they can

01:01:43.099 --> 01:01:45.820
marry their dolls, and now they can have downloadable

01:01:45.820 --> 01:01:49.579
personalities. They can upgrade them. Have you

01:01:49.579 --> 01:01:53.659
watched that movie, Companion? Not yet, no. Your

01:01:53.659 --> 01:01:57.480
watch list is growing by the episode. But that's

01:01:57.480 --> 01:02:00.880
the problem. It's like, I don't have. This is

01:02:00.880 --> 01:02:06.460
my free time. I know. I know. It's Nala. Nala

01:02:06.460 --> 01:02:12.619
the kitty. Yeah, the movie Companion is well

01:02:12.619 --> 01:02:15.559
worth a watch. As we talked about is Transcendence.

01:02:16.079 --> 01:02:18.800
Go back and watch that one because it's kind

01:02:18.800 --> 01:02:23.820
of creepy. Several episodes of Black Mirror.

01:02:24.019 --> 01:02:31.230
Yes. I mean. Boys, we're entering a phase of

01:02:31.230 --> 01:02:35.630
human existence that I really only thought would

01:02:35.630 --> 01:02:40.489
exist in science fiction. Or at least far enough

01:02:40.489 --> 01:02:42.750
away that we weren't going to have to worry about

01:02:42.750 --> 01:02:46.570
it. Yeah, well, I genuinely believe that one

01:02:46.570 --> 01:02:49.889
of my children will probably come home dating

01:02:49.889 --> 01:02:53.409
the toaster. And it's probably going to be my

01:02:53.409 --> 01:02:56.610
youngest. Yeah, I was about to say my youngest

01:02:56.610 --> 01:02:59.090
would be the one that would pull some shenanigans

01:02:59.090 --> 01:03:05.289
like that just because. So. But in 10 years time.

01:03:05.510 --> 01:03:11.349
This is toaster. Toaster, this is dad. Yeah.

01:03:12.150 --> 01:03:15.030
What was that, Gibbs? I'm sorry. In 10 years

01:03:15.030 --> 01:03:16.369
time. In 10 years time, you never know what the

01:03:16.369 --> 01:03:18.789
technology is going to be. Because if they recognize

01:03:18.789 --> 01:03:21.579
this kind of stuff as legal people. Yeah, well,

01:03:21.659 --> 01:03:23.760
in eight years' time, we should be on the front

01:03:23.760 --> 01:03:26.800
lines fighting the Terminators. So it depends

01:03:26.800 --> 01:03:31.079
on what timeline falls out. Well, we're on the

01:03:31.079 --> 01:03:35.320
Harambe timeline, so all bets are off. Well,

01:03:35.400 --> 01:03:37.539
okay, we need to get to the computer and figure

01:03:37.539 --> 01:03:40.719
out how it goes with the Harambe timeline converging

01:03:40.719 --> 01:03:42.760
with the Idiocracy timeline. I think that means

01:03:42.760 --> 01:03:45.360
civil war in the next three to four years. Gross.

01:03:47.199 --> 01:03:49.880
That's where we're going. The way things are

01:03:49.880 --> 01:03:51.739
going, yeah, you got politicians that can say

01:03:51.739 --> 01:03:54.780
whatever they want to drive the populace fricking

01:03:54.780 --> 01:03:59.039
batty. And that's why I think people are going

01:03:59.039 --> 01:04:01.780
to turn into using AI and stuff like that for

01:04:01.780 --> 01:04:04.400
romantic. Because imagine down the road, imagine

01:04:04.400 --> 01:04:06.179
if there is a lot of civil strafe and civil war

01:04:06.179 --> 01:04:09.840
in just the Western world. What if people were

01:04:09.840 --> 01:04:12.340
like, I have to go outside and risk my life or

01:04:12.340 --> 01:04:16.179
I could stay home and talk to this thing. It's

01:04:16.179 --> 01:04:19.500
going to happen. I'm telling you. Yeah. It's

01:04:19.500 --> 01:04:23.440
going to get weird. It's going to go wee -woo,

01:04:23.599 --> 01:04:30.199
wee -woo. I can't wait to see the numbers on

01:04:30.199 --> 01:04:35.500
the demographics and information of who ends

01:04:35.500 --> 01:04:37.780
up getting them and what they end up being, who

01:04:37.780 --> 01:04:40.820
they end up being, why. Yeah. How far do they

01:04:40.820 --> 01:04:46.219
go? Yeah. I'm sorry, that information is going

01:04:46.219 --> 01:04:48.800
to be public at some point. Oh, yeah, I'm sure.

01:04:53.639 --> 01:04:56.380
Then we need the download stats of different

01:04:56.380 --> 01:05:02.059
people and whatnot. Though I will say, if there's

01:05:02.059 --> 01:05:04.719
money to be made in it, I volunteer as tribute

01:05:04.719 --> 01:05:13.699
to be that first robot. Oh. So I mentioned FetLife

01:05:13.699 --> 01:05:16.920
subreddit. How long before we start seeing robo

01:05:16.920 --> 01:05:21.599
-porn in Pornhub and whatnot? You kind of see

01:05:21.599 --> 01:05:24.360
that now where retards are with their love dolls.

01:05:25.500 --> 01:05:39.300
You said the no -no word. Yep. God damn it. I'm

01:05:39.300 --> 01:05:47.900
sorry. Oh, man. Every time you say that, you

01:05:47.900 --> 01:05:53.820
have to donate to an autism charity now. Well,

01:05:53.940 --> 01:05:56.260
I can just put the quarter in my own jar. How

01:05:56.260 --> 01:06:04.079
about that? Oh, man. The only thing I will say

01:06:04.079 --> 01:06:07.579
is if you're talking about robot love, there's

01:06:07.579 --> 01:06:10.440
this very famous robot in Fallout called Fisto.

01:06:13.659 --> 01:06:16.059
And Fisto is going to be seeing a lot of work.

01:06:16.380 --> 01:06:22.539
Let me tell you. Do you know what Fisto's tagline

01:06:22.539 --> 01:06:26.139
is? Oh God, what is it? Assume the position.

01:06:28.599 --> 01:06:30.840
If you two have never played Fallout New Vegas,

01:06:31.059 --> 01:06:35.719
it's a fun time. Actually, that was the one that

01:06:35.719 --> 01:06:40.039
I actually didn't get very far in. I got distracted

01:06:40.039 --> 01:06:42.039
and would just go off into the desert and try

01:06:42.039 --> 01:06:45.019
to find my way off the map. I just kept doing

01:06:45.019 --> 01:06:50.900
that. It's a fun story. You know, you mentioned

01:06:50.900 --> 01:06:54.019
Fisto, and now I just want a home defense robot

01:06:54.019 --> 01:06:58.480
that once I activate intruder alert on my Alexa

01:06:58.480 --> 01:07:01.460
or whatever, it just comes back with that, oh,

01:07:01.679 --> 01:07:04.340
you've got a tight little man pussy, don't you?

01:07:06.280 --> 01:07:08.380
I can say that, but I can't say what I said.

01:07:08.519 --> 01:07:10.820
Jesus. That's also bad, too, the both of you.

01:07:13.739 --> 01:07:18.380
Oh, shit. See, you got to have it start playing

01:07:18.380 --> 01:07:21.059
beach. You stay alive. It's like, I got five,

01:07:21.199 --> 01:07:23.940
the three minutes in the ring with you. For three

01:07:23.940 --> 01:07:29.380
minutes, you're gone. Oh, God. Oh, yeah. It smells

01:07:29.380 --> 01:07:34.699
so bad in here. Oh, man. Dispensing baby oil.

01:07:34.920 --> 01:07:41.239
Damn, I was just like... Oh, BD, look out. Operation

01:07:41.239 --> 01:07:44.039
DD commencing. It's just like squirting baby

01:07:44.039 --> 01:07:51.679
oil out of the nipples on him. Oh, man. Oh, fuck.

01:07:52.719 --> 01:08:00.440
You know... Man. Thank God none of us have access

01:08:00.440 --> 01:08:04.880
to a lot of money. Yeah. Because I would, God,

01:08:05.099 --> 01:08:10.679
my house would be a nightmare for anyone to invade.

01:08:11.320 --> 01:08:14.900
Yeah. It would just look like a scene out of

01:08:14.900 --> 01:08:20.439
one of the Hellraiser movies, basically. Yep.

01:08:21.899 --> 01:08:24.739
Chains and leather everywhere. Chains, leather,

01:08:24.899 --> 01:08:26.479
and Roombas with claymores, let me tell you.

01:08:28.180 --> 01:08:33.359
Chainsaw Roomba. I will say it till the day I

01:08:33.359 --> 01:08:36.239
die. A chainsaw will be the most threatening

01:08:36.239 --> 01:08:38.520
sound anybody could ever hear inside of a house

01:08:38.520 --> 01:08:42.439
they're not supposed to be in. You know, I saw

01:08:42.439 --> 01:08:44.819
the best video online with a Roomba the other

01:08:44.819 --> 01:08:48.779
day. They took a Roomba, attached a French knife

01:08:48.779 --> 01:08:51.800
to it, and stuck it in a ring with a bunch of

01:08:51.800 --> 01:08:54.420
colored balloons. And you had to bet on which

01:08:54.420 --> 01:08:57.859
colored balloon was going to survive. Oh, wow.

01:09:00.590 --> 01:09:04.470
Yeah. That one looked really cool. That's the

01:09:04.470 --> 01:09:05.989
most poverty -stricken version of The Hunger

01:09:05.989 --> 01:09:11.630
Games I've ever heard of. Right? That is officially

01:09:11.630 --> 01:09:14.770
The Starving Games, folks. The Starving Games.

01:09:16.409 --> 01:09:18.350
If you ever see that movie, The Starving Games

01:09:18.350 --> 01:09:22.229
is actually a really funny parody movie. Yeah.

01:09:22.770 --> 01:09:25.390
It's funny. First world problems here, you know.

01:09:25.930 --> 01:09:28.409
I have enough money for a robot vacuum, but I

01:09:28.409 --> 01:09:33.609
don't have enough money for food. Yep. Oh, man.

01:09:33.750 --> 01:09:37.090
I got a party. We got balloons. We got Roomba

01:09:37.090 --> 01:09:41.810
and a French knife. We're good to go. As long

01:09:41.810 --> 01:09:43.550
as it's named the French tickler, we're golden.

01:09:45.649 --> 01:09:51.350
All right, boys. I guess my final thought on

01:09:51.350 --> 01:09:56.810
that was going to be. How many people are going

01:09:56.810 --> 01:10:03.970
to use this to then stick those AIs into actual

01:10:03.970 --> 01:10:07.390
robots to then just pretend people in their family

01:10:07.390 --> 01:10:10.909
or their friends never died or spouses, children,

01:10:11.109 --> 01:10:14.489
stuff like that? How many people are just going

01:10:14.489 --> 01:10:18.600
to go off the fucking rails? With the way that

01:10:18.600 --> 01:10:20.819
robots are advancing, I don't know if you guys

01:10:20.819 --> 01:10:24.180
watched any of the CES show, but the newest version

01:10:24.180 --> 01:10:29.779
of Atlas is looking pretty good. Some of the

01:10:29.779 --> 01:10:32.279
other robots coming out of China. I know some

01:10:32.279 --> 01:10:35.159
of the robots they were showing at CES that looked

01:10:35.159 --> 01:10:39.220
like actual people looked less believable than

01:10:39.220 --> 01:10:42.579
the one that they set up as more of an artistic

01:10:42.579 --> 01:10:46.520
design where it was more of a cyberpunk feel

01:10:46.520 --> 01:10:51.060
to it. That one felt better aesthetically than

01:10:51.060 --> 01:10:52.720
some of the ones that were supposed to be like

01:10:52.720 --> 01:10:55.800
real people. Those ones just looked terrible.

01:10:56.840 --> 01:10:59.819
So that one that we talked about a few months

01:10:59.819 --> 01:11:02.979
back that was so lifelike looking, they had to

01:11:02.979 --> 01:11:05.560
cut its leg open on stage just to prove that

01:11:05.560 --> 01:11:08.100
it wasn't somebody in a suit. Those ones are

01:11:08.100 --> 01:11:10.500
still being refined and being delivered soon,

01:11:10.659 --> 01:11:14.079
I believe. Those are, I think, some of the Chinese

01:11:14.079 --> 01:11:20.800
models. If those get something like the personality

01:11:20.800 --> 01:11:23.779
updates like you were talking about, that could

01:11:23.779 --> 01:11:27.020
be a very real and scary thing. Because what

01:11:27.020 --> 01:11:29.800
I wanted to bring up is, have either of you two

01:11:29.800 --> 01:11:36.500
played Fallout 4? No. Yes. Okay. In Fallout 4,

01:11:36.680 --> 01:11:40.039
one of the big campaign talking points and things

01:11:40.039 --> 01:11:41.439
that are happening in the Commonwealth is that

01:11:41.439 --> 01:11:45.689
people are being replaced by synths. That basically

01:11:45.689 --> 01:11:46.930
they download all the memories and everything,

01:11:47.069 --> 01:11:48.550
they rebuild the robot body, it looks exactly

01:11:48.550 --> 01:11:50.689
like them, all the memories, personality, everything,

01:11:50.810 --> 01:11:53.489
and they replace them. It's like a secret sleeper

01:11:53.489 --> 01:11:56.649
agent. Now we get to throw our tinfoil hat on.

01:11:57.909 --> 01:12:00.409
Once this technology can merge both of them,

01:12:00.489 --> 01:12:03.310
and especially if they're allowed just to take

01:12:03.310 --> 01:12:06.069
all the data, everything off of online and create

01:12:06.069 --> 01:12:09.050
a person, how long will it be until they start

01:12:09.050 --> 01:12:13.189
replacing people? It's Invasion of the Body Snatchers.

01:12:15.279 --> 01:12:18.439
So we turn into that Disney movie or Pixar movie,

01:12:18.560 --> 01:12:20.960
whatever it was, where Robin Williams was that

01:12:20.960 --> 01:12:27.220
red robot. Not Bicentennial Man. No, no, no,

01:12:27.239 --> 01:12:30.979
no, no, no. Robots. Yeah, robots. Yes. Yeah.

01:12:31.399 --> 01:12:33.920
You know, we're going to make a baby. Yeah. Here's

01:12:33.920 --> 01:12:39.560
the instruction manual. Making it's the fun part.

01:12:42.090 --> 01:12:44.090
That was an underrated movie. That was really

01:12:44.090 --> 01:12:47.970
good. It was just jazz and junk. Call it funk.

01:12:48.789 --> 01:12:51.630
I feel like Robin Williams has a long string

01:12:51.630 --> 01:12:53.250
of movies that are very good, but they're very

01:12:53.250 --> 01:12:55.170
underrated and a lot of people forgot about.

01:12:55.770 --> 01:12:59.710
Yeah. I was still mad when they didn't use him

01:12:59.710 --> 01:13:02.989
for the live action. They easily could have.

01:13:04.170 --> 01:13:09.770
For which one? Of what? Aladdin. Oh, yeah. Or

01:13:09.770 --> 01:13:12.979
Genie. Didn't they use Will Smith? Yeah, he's

01:13:12.979 --> 01:13:15.920
Will Smith. I mean, he did okay, but you can't

01:13:15.920 --> 01:13:20.840
beat the original Genie. He was dead. Not like

01:13:20.840 --> 01:13:24.779
a Madison anymore. So was the guy for Star Wars

01:13:24.779 --> 01:13:27.039
and they put him in that movie without issue

01:13:27.039 --> 01:13:30.520
and or whatever the hell it was. That was probably

01:13:30.520 --> 01:13:35.140
a budgetary issue because the scenes that he

01:13:35.140 --> 01:13:40.479
was in were minute. Still. And it ran the budget

01:13:40.479 --> 01:13:44.510
through the roof. yeah they put luke skywalker

01:13:44.510 --> 01:13:47.109
in the freaking mandalorian for christ's sake

01:13:47.109 --> 01:13:51.850
they can do it yeah that's true but that's disney

01:13:51.850 --> 01:13:54.810
money so give another five years and movies will

01:13:54.810 --> 01:13:59.010
be all made by ai anyway so yeah yeah you know

01:13:59.010 --> 01:14:04.989
i've seen a couple that not bad not great but

01:14:06.539 --> 01:14:09.600
Well, so I had a chat with AI not long ago, and

01:14:09.600 --> 01:14:12.920
I know we're way off topic at this point, about

01:14:12.920 --> 01:14:17.279
taking full novels and having them uploaded to

01:14:17.279 --> 01:14:22.140
AI to have a book -accurate movie rendered, produced,

01:14:22.340 --> 01:14:25.880
and ready to watch within a working day. So you

01:14:25.880 --> 01:14:29.079
could leave for work, drop the PDF into the AI's

01:14:29.079 --> 01:14:31.960
inbox, essentially. By the time you get home

01:14:31.960 --> 01:14:34.140
and get dinner ready, it will have the movie

01:14:34.140 --> 01:14:38.060
ready to go for you. that tech is probably three

01:14:38.060 --> 01:14:42.159
to five years out yeah like at the worst case

01:14:42.159 --> 01:14:45.340
scenario and the only way that would work is

01:14:45.340 --> 01:14:47.319
you'd have to be able to show that you are the

01:14:47.319 --> 01:14:50.439
author of that book to pull that off because

01:14:50.439 --> 01:14:52.920
otherwise that's such copyright infringement

01:14:52.920 --> 01:14:57.439
it's disgusting well no it's taking a work that

01:14:57.439 --> 01:15:00.579
exists and creating a digital work that doesn't

01:15:00.579 --> 01:15:04.970
exist based on the work copyright infringement

01:15:04.970 --> 01:15:06.649
because you're not selling it. It's only for

01:15:06.649 --> 01:15:09.630
you. For personal use, yeah. Yeah, I mean, I

01:15:09.630 --> 01:15:11.770
get it, but at some point, where's the money

01:15:11.770 --> 01:15:14.930
going to come from that has to make that? You're

01:15:14.930 --> 01:15:17.789
probably just buying the book, paying for the

01:15:17.789 --> 01:15:22.289
AI engine. You know? Yeah. Hear about this, because

01:15:22.289 --> 01:15:24.829
hear me out on this one. What companies will

01:15:24.829 --> 01:15:27.149
do is they will sell the licensing. to someone

01:15:27.149 --> 01:15:29.149
for like three or five bucks a month for all

01:15:29.149 --> 01:15:32.710
of Disney's portfolio and Marvel and everything

01:15:32.710 --> 01:15:35.789
from like Hulu or Netflix or everything. They'll

01:15:35.789 --> 01:15:38.329
sell, I bet you money, they'll be willing to

01:15:38.329 --> 01:15:41.029
sell access to the entire catalog for AI editing

01:15:41.029 --> 01:15:44.649
for a certain amount of money per month. And

01:15:44.649 --> 01:15:45.989
by that time, you should be able to buy a GPU

01:15:45.989 --> 01:15:49.029
that can handle a lot of this AI stuff in your

01:15:49.029 --> 01:15:51.069
computer in and of itself anyway. It's like,

01:15:51.109 --> 01:15:54.880
congratulations. Now... You are paying the monthly

01:15:54.880 --> 01:15:56.840
subscription for the license to build whatever

01:15:56.840 --> 01:15:59.699
you want. And that way you're paying them for

01:15:59.699 --> 01:16:01.880
the royalties on it. And they still technically

01:16:01.880 --> 01:16:04.340
own anything you make. That way they can stature

01:16:04.340 --> 01:16:05.899
up and say, oh, that's a good idea. It's our

01:16:05.899 --> 01:16:09.380
movie now. Thank you. Your movie is my movie.

01:16:09.479 --> 01:16:13.000
It's our movie. Thank you very much. Also, think

01:16:13.000 --> 01:16:15.739
about this. They can have tiers of actors and

01:16:15.739 --> 01:16:18.439
actresses available. So they can just let you

01:16:18.439 --> 01:16:21.340
pay for those. And they can have the C tier,

01:16:21.420 --> 01:16:23.960
the B tier, the A tier. And if you want to have

01:16:23.960 --> 01:16:26.539
your book turn into a movie with a certain set

01:16:26.539 --> 01:16:29.060
of actors and actresses in it, you can pick and

01:16:29.060 --> 01:16:32.539
choose at will. That's the episode of Black Mirror

01:16:32.539 --> 01:16:36.359
where what's -her -name was being reenacted by

01:16:36.359 --> 01:16:39.300
a famous actress where she had signed her digital

01:16:39.300 --> 01:16:43.060
rights to her image and everything. And she was

01:16:43.060 --> 01:16:45.760
okay with it until the girl decided, I'm going

01:16:45.760 --> 01:16:52.989
to go into a church and defecate. Yeah. That

01:16:52.989 --> 01:16:54.750
was a weird -ass episode, but it was funny, too.

01:16:55.229 --> 01:16:57.609
Oh, God, yeah. It was hilarious. They were making

01:16:57.609 --> 01:16:59.989
fun of Netflix so hard on that one. It was great.

01:17:00.010 --> 01:17:04.109
Oh, yeah. Yeah. You have to be able to laugh

01:17:04.109 --> 01:17:06.909
at yourself, which makes it even better. Yep.

01:17:07.989 --> 01:17:11.449
And Wookie, it's not whatever. It's true. Get

01:17:11.449 --> 01:17:15.329
it right. So we'll go ahead and end the episode.

01:17:16.949 --> 01:17:20.630
Final thoughts for the grief industrial complex?

01:17:23.850 --> 01:17:26.069
people need to learn to deal with their lives

01:17:26.069 --> 01:17:28.909
and understand that the human experience is full

01:17:28.909 --> 01:17:32.090
of ups and downs and don't try to sugarcoat or

01:17:32.090 --> 01:17:34.550
run away from it. Deal with it in a healthy way

01:17:34.550 --> 01:17:36.770
and move on and understand that life gets better.

01:17:37.989 --> 01:17:41.529
Yeah. And let evil die. Don't, don't let the

01:17:41.529 --> 01:17:44.329
evil live. Cause I swear to God, if they let

01:17:44.329 --> 01:17:46.989
my mother live on in digital, I will burn that

01:17:46.989 --> 01:17:50.149
database. They dated center down. You think I'm

01:17:50.149 --> 01:17:55.010
joking. I will burn it. I don't. I do not. I

01:17:55.010 --> 01:17:58.510
will end it by saying the beauty of life is its

01:17:58.510 --> 01:18:02.369
finality. When we consume the simulation of the

01:18:02.369 --> 01:18:04.590
dead, we'll lose our appetite for the living.

01:18:05.430 --> 01:18:09.729
So with that, I'll say thanks for sticking around,

01:18:09.829 --> 01:18:13.869
everyone. And we'll see you next week. Bye -bye.

01:18:15.050 --> 01:18:15.569
Bye.