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you like that one, buddy? Oh! Yeah. Thank you. Gibbs

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could not join us. He has other commitments with

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life. So if you're watching the video stream,

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we've got a little stand in. Mansley is posting

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up and joining us tonight. But tonight we're

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going to discuss DARPA, the Defense Advanced

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Research Projects Agency. We're going to be talking

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about some of the various projects that have

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been made available to the public. as well as

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the agency itself, from their roots and inception

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to some of their current advanced programs that

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aim to keep Americans safe and the bad guys ready

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to meet their maker in the most expensive and

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biggest display of fuck you way possible. Yeah,

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we've all heard of DARPA here and there. They've

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been kind of that whisper in the bedsheets of

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America's... going on in the military industrial

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complex. But some of the things that have come

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out are true, some of the things are not true,

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and some of the things are just kind of downright

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scary. You were talking... Like the... I was

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going to say, just like the potato cannon, my

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boys and I jumped up for F -15 strike. Do tell.

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Oh, yeah. When I was in tech school, we had some

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guy come out. I don't remember where he was from,

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but he was showing off some. Actually, no, it

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wasn't tech school. Oh, my God. This is so long

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ago. It's okay. Where was I? Yeah, man. Maybe

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it was Mountain Home when I was TDY. I just remembered

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that we had a guy come out talking about a new

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bomb system. and showed us blueprints and how

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we would possibly be loading these bombs on the

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wings of the jet and everything. And then we

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were like, well, hey, when we're looking at this,

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couldn't you take a couple pipes using the mechanism

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that we use for the BDUs, the little blue bomb,

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you know, targeting bombs, you know, that the

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pilots use to practice and turn it into an impromptu

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potato cannon? And the guy looked at her drawings

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and he went... yeah oh no actually this would

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work not sure how far the he's like i'm not sure

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how far the potatoes would go but you know it

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will fire in the name of science i was like right

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i was like we need to find out if this will work

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not not officially sadly no but we did yeah not

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officially but we did find out you know the particular

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design they were showing us was pretty good Unfortunately,

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it would have turned the jet into a mock bomber.

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There's nothing wrong with that. Right. Unfortunately,

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we found out that's kind of frowned upon around

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the world, but hey, whatever. That's most of

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what we do. True. That's why I have my drinking

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issues. Your drinking issues and my dark humor.

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So, Darklo has a confirmed history of human experiments,

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both willing and unwilling, as well as some very

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deep -seated ties to the MKUltra program. They

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do, however, have some very cutting -edge drone

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programs that have been coming to light over

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the past five to seven years. I am not unconvinced

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that the big drone hubbub we had, was it earlier

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this year or late last year? Because it all kind

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of blurs together. It was earlier this year,

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I believe it was, if I remember right. It's been

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a long year. I'm not unconvinced that that was

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not... You cannot change my mind that that was

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DARPA. That was some kind of a DARPA test. They

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were doing some bullshit. That was what that

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was. I will go to my grave until I'm told otherwise.

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I will say that... maybe it was last year God

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I just know it was like after that the whole

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drone thing in Ukraine started really kicking

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off I mean it was happening during that point

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like it started getting big but it was it was

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after that that all of a sudden you had like

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some serious Yeah. All the big drone usage in

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Ukraine. Yeah. That's when Ukraine launched that

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big box truck drone operation. Yeah. So that's,

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that's a good time. Cause I think it was after

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that, when Israel detonated all this, was it

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both? What the hell are those things called?

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Yes. The pagers. God, I can't remember that.

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And I was alive during that time. Yeah. god it's

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okay we're the same age it's all right i feel

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you so every day it just gets harder so the the

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big goal for tonight's discussion is to uh really

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bring to light whether or not we and and you

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guys listening along actually feel that all the

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innovations from darpa whether they out the the

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good outweighs the bad um Whether DARPA's innovations

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really cross into that evil territory or if it's

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really just the cost of progress, that decision

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is ultimately up to us and you, the listeners,

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and the public at large. We would really like

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to hear thoughts in the form of some kind of

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interaction on the socials. Oh, no. Be that on

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Instagram, YouTube. any of the various audio

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platforms, hit us up. Let us know if you hear

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one of the segments and it, you know, tickles

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your grundle, just let us know what your thoughts

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are. If it touches your FUPA. Yes. If it headbutts

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the FUPA, absolutely. So also, if you don't know

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what a FUPA is, I encourage you to look that

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up. Along with getting one neared. Yes. Oh, so

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yes. Look that one up too. It's a good one. So

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DARPA's shady roots in human experiments actually

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has echoes of the Nazis and MK ultra. Yup. That

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was only. But that was only because of the fact

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that they brought the Nazis over because we said,

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fuck you. We want the rocket tech. So Operation

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Paperclip, we discussed that back in our, what

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was it? The government really is lying to you

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episode. We didn't just take on a bunch of former

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scientists. We actually brought a bunch of war

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criminals over to this country to work for us.

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Yes, we did. Was that a good thing? Was that

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a bad thing? It really depends on if you think

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the things that have come out of the DARPA research

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really are better for society at large. DARPA

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wasn't around for the worst of it, but its tech

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does build on a lot of the dark history. As I

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said, Operation Paperclip brought a lot of the

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Nazis over. A lot of those were on the list of

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people who experimented on concentration camp

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prisoners. They used mescaline for mind control,

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which tapers into the MKUltra program, which,

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as you know, the CIA funded LSD dosing of both

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willing and unwilling people. They had... that's

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as bad as when you know you got guys got tested

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on with chemical weapons hey go march through

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this field and let's see what happens the tuskegee

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experiments that was that too god yeah i mean

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so for just a fucked up individual's gonna think

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that shit up when i read and i'm going to kind

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of segue for a second when i read that there

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were scientists and doctors in those camps injecting

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people with turpentine just to test and see how

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much it took to kill somebody. I mean, it was

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just... They were literally just testing the

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limits of the human body at that point. Jesus,

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that's as bad as what the Japanese did to the

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damn Chinese. It's disgusting. When you dive

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into the history of the human race, you find

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out... we can do some terrible things to each

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other and that really kind of hits you in the

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gut but back on topic uh psychic driving that

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could erase people's personalities um yeah but

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then didn't they find out like a lot of that

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shit well things like the remote viewing the

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uh psychic warfare all the different like psyop

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stuff that they did There's a lot of that that's

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still classified to this day. Things like trying

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to walk through walls. I should have written

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it down. There was a high -ranking colonel or

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general who took it upon himself to think that

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he could vibrate through walls. He literally

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stood up from his desk after reading something

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and tried to run through a wall and broke his

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nose. how many times do you have to do that where

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you realized no i can't do that there is research

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that is freely available on the internet that

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will tell you how to do this stuff it's it's

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like mind um mind level stuff we'll just call

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it it's crazy i've read some of it our buddy

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lt he's very much into that kind of stuff from

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reading about it and oh absolutely yes yes if

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if anybody's interested we'd be happy to share

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what we are privy to as far as what we've seen

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just you know hit us up and we'll we'll make

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it through there um we'll make it available to

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you guys oh yeah gibbs Gibbs is like, you walk

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through walls, you mean living with 9 ,999 paintings?

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Yeah. So DARPA's modern neurotech is a lot like

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the Brain Initiative. I do not have that on reference,

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if you want to look that one up. The DARPA Brain

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Initiative feels like a sequel. Actually, I think

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it leads into what SpaceX and Elon, are doing

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with the neural link mapping brains for potential

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control. So that leads to the issue of, is that

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evil inheritance or just evolution? Okay. So

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some of the stuff I'm getting is more about mapping

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the brain in order to restore brain function.

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through new tools for sensing and interfacing

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neural circuits, kind of like what Elon's doing

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now, where you could interface with a PC just

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with your brain. And then supporting military

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needs like restoring function after injury, enabling

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better prosthetics, which actually that would

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be a very good benefit. The flip side of that,

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I think, that could enable us to... remotely

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control robots for field use um yeah i think

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that's a good military application for that oh

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yeah what movie was that with uh bruce willis

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where they were all surrogates yes that would

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be a very good surrogates thing so i'm not saying

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i try to refrain from bringing chat yes too often

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but since gibbs is chiming in on this one, and

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he is a part of the show. He is saying that the

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brain initiative still eludes Joe Biden to this

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day. I think that's hilarious. And I would like

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to point out we're recording this recently after

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Gary Busey went out. Oh, you saw that video too?

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I would like to say that I think he is still

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more lucid than President Biden ever was while

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in office. The fact that somebody held the camera

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and didn't start busting his butt is amazing.

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Dude, I lost it. That was amazing. If I had been

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driving and saw that, I probably would have just

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pissed myself. Oh, God. When I saw that come

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up, I was like, oh, God, someone put him back

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on the internet. We're done. That's how the year's

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ending. right there yeah well as soon as i saw

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it i went oh shit he's old and yeah mother nature

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said ugly stick here's the ugly bomb here you

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go so so we we talked about all that i wanted

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the the pro of all this these experiments they've

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led to medical breakthroughs but we we have better

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understanding of the brain for treating ps or

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PTSD sorry in vets as well as the general public

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trauma victims and all sorts of stuff is that

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bettering society at large knowing what we've

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drawn from the tech to use in the battlefield

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the the con of all this unwilling subjects kidnappings

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for the things like psyche driving the mk ultra

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level experiments that's straight up unethical

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even if it is for national security does it cross

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lines beyond the point of for the sake of the

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better good yeah i mean there would have to be

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some controls into it you know outside an organization

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that's not under governmental control that would

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be speaking up going, Hey, this, this is going

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in a direction we don't want it to go kind of

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thing. Almost like we should have with AI. So

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question for everybody listening. If DARPA claims

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that all of the current tests are on willing

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volunteers, how do we know that coercion isn't,

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involved in military settings because they're

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literally ordered to go do this shit. They can

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say they're, they're being volunteered or that

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it's, it's a voluntary thing, but I mean, Gibbles

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and I both know when they ask for volunteers,

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you're, they're not really asking for volunteers.

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They're looking for the voluntolds. So, yeah.

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How many times you've been voluntold over the

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years when you were in for voluntary fun day?

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Well, only imagine. I will say Steel Beach Picnic.

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That was a good mandatory fun day. I got my two

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beers in the Red Sea. You. Yeah, you didn't sit

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through a almost. What was the was it? I think

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it was like three hours of a motivational speaker.

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And he was only supposed to be on stage for like

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30 minutes. And it was so bad, even the base

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commander was like, all right, all right, you're

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done, dude. You're done. Yes. So many of us were

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sitting in the background from the weapons community

00:18:17.099 --> 00:18:19.299
going, ah, I can't. I would have jumped up and

00:18:19.299 --> 00:18:22.000
been like, man, you motivated me to just go hang

00:18:22.000 --> 00:18:28.210
myself. I'm out of here. If it wasn't for the

00:18:28.210 --> 00:18:30.269
base commander being on stage trying to get the

00:18:30.269 --> 00:18:32.309
guy off the stage because he wouldn't shut the

00:18:32.309 --> 00:18:35.470
fuck up. Oh, yeah. I probably would have jumped

00:18:35.470 --> 00:18:40.390
on that sword. I was ready for it. Oh, and I

00:18:40.390 --> 00:18:42.750
do want to touch on, before we move to a different

00:18:42.750 --> 00:18:46.509
topic, Operation Midnight Climax, where they

00:18:46.509 --> 00:18:49.269
were dosing civilians via prostitutes for observation.

00:18:49.329 --> 00:18:54.089
Oh, yeah. I personally think that rate's very

00:18:54.089 --> 00:18:58.569
high on the evil meter. But that's DARPA's and

00:18:58.569 --> 00:19:04.150
not the CIA. Yeah. So should we, should, go ahead.

00:19:04.349 --> 00:19:07.990
Yeah, because, no, I was going to say, yeah,

00:19:08.049 --> 00:19:13.509
because that, that's really getting dirty. So

00:19:13.509 --> 00:19:18.950
that kind of leans into the question. Given the

00:19:18.950 --> 00:19:22.230
way that they came to be, their existence came

00:19:22.230 --> 00:19:25.430
to be, do we blame them for the past? I mean.

00:19:26.079 --> 00:19:28.960
there's a lot of things that exist today you

00:19:28.960 --> 00:19:32.920
cannot apply the standards of the modern day

00:19:32.920 --> 00:19:40.460
to the past and i think it holds true it ends

00:19:40.460 --> 00:19:43.240
up being one of the i think it's one of those

00:19:43.240 --> 00:19:46.339
things where it's like as long as we do better

00:19:46.339 --> 00:19:50.019
we learn from history and we try not to repeat

00:19:50.019 --> 00:19:55.859
it so yeah it's like the our country did it start

00:19:55.859 --> 00:19:59.519
off on the right foot in some ways yes some ways

00:19:59.519 --> 00:20:03.259
no some way the whole could have been way better

00:20:03.259 --> 00:20:09.079
true we could have just mitigated everyone just

00:20:09.079 --> 00:20:11.480
said eff it an attempt was at least thank god

00:20:11.480 --> 00:20:16.900
we didn't yeah yeah just unfortunately we had

00:20:16.900 --> 00:20:22.359
some very greedy individuals so now i would like

00:20:22.359 --> 00:20:26.140
to think we're trying to do better So, again,

00:20:26.420 --> 00:20:30.500
in DARPA's case, they did some really cruddy

00:20:30.500 --> 00:20:34.220
shit back in the day, but it was always in the

00:20:34.220 --> 00:20:38.460
idea that somebody's going to fuck around and

00:20:38.460 --> 00:20:40.960
find out, and we need to be the ones that are

00:20:40.960 --> 00:20:43.140
going to show them why they fucked around and

00:20:43.140 --> 00:20:44.940
they're about to find out. I think a lot of it

00:20:44.940 --> 00:20:47.339
is the case of if we don't do it, somebody else

00:20:47.339 --> 00:20:51.000
will, and we'll have no way to stop it. Yes.

00:20:52.279 --> 00:20:55.079
And I think a lot of that is the reason and the

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push behind the escalation of force for the development

00:21:01.720 --> 00:21:05.460
of our military program and the different weapons

00:21:05.460 --> 00:21:08.619
and whatnot. Because especially with like AI,

00:21:08.799 --> 00:21:11.960
that's why a lot of the reins are being withheld

00:21:11.960 --> 00:21:14.859
from AI, because if we don't do it, somebody

00:21:14.859 --> 00:21:17.400
else will and they won't have our best interest

00:21:17.400 --> 00:21:24.529
at heart. So, yeah. That is true. Which is totally

00:21:24.529 --> 00:21:28.069
pissing off everybody. I went to Best Buy and

00:21:28.069 --> 00:21:32.730
saw RAM prices in person. Fuck this shit. Dude.

00:21:32.930 --> 00:21:39.769
Dude. The fact that I want $400 for 32 gigs of

00:21:39.769 --> 00:21:43.089
DDR5 in Best Buy right now. I wanted to just

00:21:43.089 --> 00:21:47.329
slap somebody. Or even worse, the video card

00:21:47.329 --> 00:21:50.109
prices are going to go up astronomical because

00:21:50.109 --> 00:21:52.990
you have the Freaking moronic CEO who already

00:21:52.990 --> 00:21:55.930
thinks that we're not spending enough. You know,

00:21:55.970 --> 00:21:59.549
let's make PC gaming even more of a rich person

00:21:59.549 --> 00:22:02.730
hobby. Oh, we're going to reduce production by

00:22:02.730 --> 00:22:05.130
40 % for the consumers because we're going to

00:22:05.130 --> 00:22:12.250
devote more to AI. If you listening are a part

00:22:12.250 --> 00:22:16.069
of the gaming culture, then you've probably been

00:22:16.069 --> 00:22:18.430
following what's been going on. We may end up

00:22:18.430 --> 00:22:21.160
doing a whole episode. Hopefully you've upgraded.

00:22:21.220 --> 00:22:22.740
We may end up doing a whole episode based on

00:22:22.740 --> 00:22:26.099
that. Because there are some big and major changes

00:22:26.099 --> 00:22:29.000
not in the good way coming to that. And a lot

00:22:29.000 --> 00:22:31.680
of it's being driven by data centers and AI.

00:22:32.579 --> 00:22:39.480
They're gobbling up GPUs and RAM and solid state

00:22:39.480 --> 00:22:42.539
hard drives. Things that people need for computers

00:22:42.539 --> 00:22:48.420
to do things. It's not a good time to be in the

00:22:48.420 --> 00:22:54.259
market for a PC right now. Yeah, we're definitely

00:22:54.259 --> 00:22:56.539
going to have to talk about it because people

00:22:56.539 --> 00:22:58.799
are already, you know, I've seen on Reddit where

00:22:58.799 --> 00:23:04.700
even the crazy hat conspirators and the lefties

00:23:04.700 --> 00:23:07.220
and the righties are all worried about the fact

00:23:07.220 --> 00:23:10.779
that maybe this is happening because then...

00:23:11.299 --> 00:23:13.200
You're going to end up getting a small little

00:23:13.200 --> 00:23:16.500
device that makes you stream your game so you

00:23:16.500 --> 00:23:19.740
don't own anything. But they've got to have better

00:23:19.740 --> 00:23:22.960
internet for that to happen. And that's not something

00:23:22.960 --> 00:23:28.480
they've been upgrading. True. Yeah, that's because

00:23:28.480 --> 00:23:32.940
of the fact that they deregulated the cable companies.

00:23:33.180 --> 00:23:35.859
So there's no incentive for them to get better.

00:23:36.039 --> 00:23:40.269
So a couple questions before we move on. Does

00:23:40.269 --> 00:23:43.789
inheriting Nazi tech make DARPA inherently tainted?

00:23:45.910 --> 00:23:51.410
You don't think so? No. No. The tech itself is

00:23:51.410 --> 00:23:54.450
fine. As long as the intentions that it's being

00:23:54.450 --> 00:23:57.930
used for are altruistic, or however you say that

00:23:57.930 --> 00:24:02.789
word. Altruistic. Yeah. And as long as the end

00:24:02.789 --> 00:24:06.089
of the day, you're using that tech for the right

00:24:06.089 --> 00:24:09.759
reason, to hell where it came from. And not only

00:24:09.759 --> 00:24:13.700
that, we won the war against the Nazis. We destroyed

00:24:13.700 --> 00:24:16.559
them. Great. So guess what? If we find a bunch

00:24:16.559 --> 00:24:20.920
of crap that's usable for our own populace that's

00:24:20.920 --> 00:24:23.900
going to benefit us and benefit the country for

00:24:23.900 --> 00:24:28.680
our betterment, then guess what? That's what's

00:24:28.680 --> 00:24:33.059
going to happen. There's no need to get squeamish

00:24:33.059 --> 00:24:35.539
about it. It's just, guess what? Shit happens.

00:24:37.710 --> 00:24:40.930
Brain interfaces versus the risk of mind control

00:24:40.930 --> 00:24:43.410
abuse. Do you think that's in the interest of

00:24:43.410 --> 00:24:48.170
the greater good or not? I don't know because

00:24:48.170 --> 00:24:51.690
I'm kind of torn in both directions because I've

00:24:51.690 --> 00:24:55.990
seen it used for good. I've seen individuals

00:24:55.990 --> 00:24:59.950
are fully paralyzed that can't interact with

00:24:59.950 --> 00:25:03.069
anybody without just moving their eyes to the

00:25:03.069 --> 00:25:05.430
type out. But with the brain interface that.

00:25:05.950 --> 00:25:10.269
that uh elon created i saw somebody in a documentary

00:25:10.269 --> 00:25:13.990
that was using it to be outside with his family

00:25:13.990 --> 00:25:16.670
and be able to talk to them through the computer

00:25:16.670 --> 00:25:20.430
and spend time with their children to me that's

00:25:20.430 --> 00:25:26.990
amazing yeah so the fact that he was able to

00:25:26.990 --> 00:25:29.789
do that i mean that's why i'm torn because i'm

00:25:29.789 --> 00:25:33.519
like yeah i worry that this could be abused But

00:25:33.519 --> 00:25:36.180
at the same time, the benefits that have come

00:25:36.180 --> 00:25:39.339
out just for this one person, it's like, it's

00:25:39.339 --> 00:25:42.660
huge. Because who would have thought 20 years

00:25:42.660 --> 00:25:45.440
ago, you'd have a paraplegic who can barely,

00:25:45.519 --> 00:25:47.960
the only thing he can do is move his Mark I eyeballs

00:25:47.960 --> 00:25:53.420
around, and now he's connected to a PC through

00:25:53.420 --> 00:25:56.480
his brain connection, and he's able to sit there

00:25:56.480 --> 00:25:59.920
and talk and interact with his children. 20 years

00:25:59.920 --> 00:26:01.559
ago, we would have been like, yeah, there's no...

00:26:01.839 --> 00:26:05.839
It all just seems like sci -fi now. Pure Star

00:26:05.839 --> 00:26:17.759
Trek talk. That's happening today. Look at the

00:26:17.759 --> 00:26:19.779
prosthetics and stuff that we're getting now

00:26:19.779 --> 00:26:23.200
because of all the studies and experiments that

00:26:23.200 --> 00:26:28.299
come out from companies like DARPA. I'm reasonably

00:26:28.299 --> 00:26:30.400
sure that 3D printing was not invented by them.

00:26:30.890 --> 00:26:34.029
But I think they have pushed some of the boundaries

00:26:34.029 --> 00:26:37.210
of 3D printing. And a lot of the things that

00:26:37.210 --> 00:26:39.490
we're getting in that field are pretty amazing

00:26:39.490 --> 00:26:45.650
nowadays. Yep. Even the military uses 3D printing

00:26:45.650 --> 00:26:49.210
now. Would you volunteer for a DARPA brain hack

00:26:49.210 --> 00:26:52.269
experiment? This is to you and all the people

00:26:52.269 --> 00:26:57.619
listening. Hell yeah. Hell yeah, I would. I've

00:26:57.619 --> 00:27:00.200
done so much crazy shit in my life now. What

00:27:00.200 --> 00:27:03.680
the hell? Let's add it to the bucket list. Let's

00:27:03.680 --> 00:27:08.920
do it. What's the worst? What's the worst that

00:27:08.920 --> 00:27:14.359
could happen? Oh, I already know the worst could

00:27:14.359 --> 00:27:16.539
happen. Either dead or paralyzed from the neck

00:27:16.539 --> 00:27:20.000
down. Can't talk. I'm just sitting here drooling.

00:27:20.000 --> 00:27:24.549
Just hoping somebody... All right, let's hope

00:27:24.549 --> 00:27:26.609
somebody comes along and just shows me titties.

00:27:27.269 --> 00:27:29.650
I can't touch them, but I can look at them. Stuck

00:27:29.650 --> 00:27:34.250
in my brain going, that's right. I'm hoping for

00:27:34.250 --> 00:27:36.089
that really good nurse that's just like, you

00:27:36.089 --> 00:27:38.130
know what? He's going to die anyways. Here you

00:27:38.130 --> 00:27:42.789
go. And she's like 20 in Brazil. Thank you. Or

00:27:42.789 --> 00:27:51.130
Colombian. Ooh la la. Yeah. Some, you know, just

00:27:51.130 --> 00:27:54.950
something nice. not normally found in the u .s

00:27:54.950 --> 00:27:59.609
you know so well kind of uh yes that's a nice

00:27:59.609 --> 00:28:03.509
accent always sells it um yes we'll kind of lead

00:28:03.509 --> 00:28:07.910
into the sorry uh the the brain machine interfaces

00:28:07.910 --> 00:28:13.089
and also the super soldier program as well as

00:28:13.089 --> 00:28:17.609
a little bit more on the yeah mk ultra 2 .0 uh

00:28:17.609 --> 00:28:24.539
part god i'm sorry to interrupt but you saying

00:28:24.539 --> 00:28:27.019
the super soldier program all i can think of

00:28:27.019 --> 00:28:32.119
is the deleted scene from terminator 2 when schwarzenegger

00:28:32.119 --> 00:28:35.180
was the private and they were showing like the

00:28:35.180 --> 00:28:37.960
behind the scenes stuff and the military guys

00:28:37.960 --> 00:28:42.559
were looking at the the demo video of the original

00:28:42.559 --> 00:28:46.839
terminators and arnold actually had like a squeaky

00:28:46.839 --> 00:28:50.180
voice and then they're like can we do something

00:28:50.180 --> 00:28:52.140
about the voice and the one scientist comes in

00:28:52.140 --> 00:28:59.039
and goes oh yes we can totally change it oh dude

00:28:59.039 --> 00:29:02.480
it's hilarious it's one of those like deleted

00:29:02.480 --> 00:29:04.839
scenes that i don't even know why they cut it

00:29:04.839 --> 00:29:07.819
it was awesome look look into that that's that

00:29:07.819 --> 00:29:12.619
sounds like it's worth a watch yeah yes i had

00:29:12.619 --> 00:29:16.819
it when uh it was when they were releasing blu

00:29:16.819 --> 00:29:19.559
-rays of it and i got like this collector steel

00:29:19.559 --> 00:29:24.559
edition of it and it was on that but yeah no

00:29:24.559 --> 00:29:30.740
you said super soldier my brain went autism exactly

00:29:30.740 --> 00:29:37.380
i had the tism right for a moment so uh darpa

00:29:37.380 --> 00:29:42.140
has uh been deep diving into neurotech uh in

00:29:42.140 --> 00:29:45.680
three is the division they have for that. It's

00:29:45.680 --> 00:29:48.180
for non -invasive brain interfaces to control

00:29:48.180 --> 00:29:51.799
drones with thoughts, which that's fucking terrifying.

00:29:52.240 --> 00:29:55.579
That Chinese kid has the flying sword, so I don't

00:29:55.579 --> 00:29:59.640
know if you saw that or not. Oh yeah, that was

00:29:59.640 --> 00:30:03.380
amazing. I was like, oh, how do I get that? So

00:30:03.380 --> 00:30:06.259
they're using that to hack brains for better

00:30:06.259 --> 00:30:12.000
aim via magnetic stimulation. Augmented cognition.

00:30:12.960 --> 00:30:15.039
And I'm sorry, there's a lot of big words in

00:30:15.039 --> 00:30:20.599
this because these notes are girthy. Augmented

00:30:20.599 --> 00:30:24.799
cognition keeps soldiers superhuman with both

00:30:24.799 --> 00:30:29.220
drugs and tech. Critics call it evil for potential

00:30:29.220 --> 00:30:35.420
remote torture or erasing free will. So the thought

00:30:35.420 --> 00:30:39.720
that you could get some kind of remote access

00:30:39.720 --> 00:30:43.470
to somebody's brain. The thought that you could

00:30:43.470 --> 00:30:46.630
get in there and just start fiddling around with

00:30:46.630 --> 00:30:49.369
the different centers in someone's head. You

00:30:49.369 --> 00:30:54.109
could cause ungodly levels of fear, anxiety,

00:30:54.450 --> 00:31:00.049
panic, pain is the big one. You could just activate

00:31:00.049 --> 00:31:05.150
all the pain centers all at once. You could also

00:31:05.150 --> 00:31:09.190
disable the pain and fear receptors. If you did

00:31:09.190 --> 00:31:13.319
that, oh boy. There's a movie. Out on, I think

00:31:13.319 --> 00:31:17.779
it's Amazon. With the Quaid kid. The one from

00:31:17.779 --> 00:31:22.799
The Boys. Novocaine. That's what it is. It's

00:31:22.799 --> 00:31:25.440
a fucking good movie. That was an awesome movie.

00:31:26.380 --> 00:31:33.299
It is. That was an awesome popcorn flick. That's

00:31:33.299 --> 00:31:37.859
what his deal is. He can't feel any pain. So

00:31:37.859 --> 00:31:40.059
that's actually not the worst thing. But there

00:31:40.059 --> 00:31:44.670
are a lot of downsides. But being able to control

00:31:44.670 --> 00:31:49.150
somebody's entire brain like that. Think about

00:31:49.150 --> 00:31:50.589
it. You could disable their arms, disable their

00:31:50.589 --> 00:31:54.869
legs. Give them prolonged erections if you wanted

00:31:54.869 --> 00:31:56.789
to. Wait till they're in a meeting and just.

00:31:58.930 --> 00:32:04.029
Oh, Jesus. That's my ninth grade year all over

00:32:04.029 --> 00:32:09.910
again in my math class. 9 .30 a .m. every day

00:32:09.910 --> 00:32:11.809
for an entire 12 months. You should have started

00:32:11.809 --> 00:32:14.210
knocking one out in the morning first thing.

00:32:15.930 --> 00:32:22.970
Or two. I'm 44 years old, so I don't even care

00:32:22.970 --> 00:32:25.529
anymore. But yeah, no, I tried that. Didn't work.

00:32:26.769 --> 00:32:31.309
Teenage hormones suck. Let's see, where did we

00:32:31.309 --> 00:32:37.369
go? So yeah. We did. We went down a very dark

00:32:37.369 --> 00:32:49.150
path. Since Gibbs is chiming in remotely, he

00:32:49.150 --> 00:32:51.470
says that he hates everything that we just said.

00:32:51.650 --> 00:32:56.069
And that is completely on par. Yes. So yeah,

00:32:56.190 --> 00:32:59.869
this tech could actually save lives by enhancing

00:32:59.869 --> 00:33:03.009
soldiers' focus and reducing errors in combat.

00:33:05.640 --> 00:33:10.059
I do think that, yes, that is a thing, but the

00:33:10.059 --> 00:33:14.039
con of it, the invasive implants, the ability

00:33:14.039 --> 00:33:19.019
to just have authoritarian regimes use this for

00:33:19.019 --> 00:33:22.640
like population control. I think this one, the

00:33:22.640 --> 00:33:26.180
evil potential is just massively off the charts.

00:33:30.319 --> 00:33:32.259
But they already have something like that to

00:33:32.259 --> 00:33:34.700
enhance soldiers' focus. It's called butt caffeine.

00:33:34.940 --> 00:33:42.079
Right. You want the fastest way to get freaking

00:33:42.079 --> 00:33:44.720
caffeine in your system? Right on 3rd Avenue,

00:33:44.819 --> 00:33:50.279
buddy. Yeah. It's called a coffee enema. Just

00:33:50.279 --> 00:33:53.359
make sure it's not hot. Yeah. It's iceberg brew

00:33:53.359 --> 00:33:56.319
through on third Avenue is definitely, I would

00:33:56.319 --> 00:33:58.279
like to open up a coffee stand and just call

00:33:58.279 --> 00:34:03.839
it third Avenue coffee. Just see how many people

00:34:03.839 --> 00:34:10.179
get it. Oh my God. Oh my God. I'd be the first

00:34:10.179 --> 00:34:13.099
in line just for the giggles. I got my coffee

00:34:13.099 --> 00:34:20.139
via third Avenue. You're still drinking normally.

00:34:20.400 --> 00:34:21.920
He's still in a little IV bag with a funnel.

00:34:23.780 --> 00:34:26.659
Or the cup is a funnel. There you go. Awesome.

00:34:28.460 --> 00:34:33.360
Meth chocolate? So you could liken a lot of the

00:34:33.360 --> 00:34:37.219
historical DOD lapses like what we just talked

00:34:37.219 --> 00:34:40.159
about to the radiation tests that were done on

00:34:40.159 --> 00:34:43.559
troops. Consent back then was shaky at best.

00:34:47.210 --> 00:34:49.449
There's still no real consent when you're in

00:34:49.449 --> 00:34:51.110
the military because you're considered property.

00:34:51.469 --> 00:34:56.530
So would there be trust now? Is willing really

00:34:56.530 --> 00:35:00.130
willing when it's your actual job on the line?

00:35:00.170 --> 00:35:02.210
Because like you just said, in the military,

00:35:02.429 --> 00:35:06.010
you're property. You are owned. You are government

00:35:06.010 --> 00:35:11.469
property. Yeah. So if the government decides,

00:35:11.730 --> 00:35:14.409
hey, we got to put this in your body, that's

00:35:14.409 --> 00:35:18.579
why people got kicked out. As much as I didn't

00:35:18.579 --> 00:35:21.079
want to take the vaccine for COVID, I understood

00:35:21.079 --> 00:35:23.340
why people didn't want to. But the unfortunate

00:35:23.340 --> 00:35:28.440
part was you really don't have a say. Yeah. You

00:35:28.440 --> 00:35:30.280
don't get much of a say in the military. And

00:35:30.280 --> 00:35:33.579
if you're saying no, they're lucky they didn't

00:35:33.579 --> 00:35:40.320
go to jail for a little while. And as I said

00:35:40.320 --> 00:35:43.179
before, I hate everything about it. I took it

00:35:43.179 --> 00:35:46.409
only because. You know, the wife at the time

00:35:46.409 --> 00:35:49.349
was like, I have an extra and you need to take

00:35:49.349 --> 00:35:51.449
it. And next thing I know, I was having a seizure

00:35:51.449 --> 00:35:54.190
on the floor. And I've never had a seizure before

00:35:54.190 --> 00:35:58.130
that day. We've got an episode about a lot of

00:35:58.130 --> 00:36:02.570
the COVID stuff on the docket. So we'll get there.

00:36:05.530 --> 00:36:07.889
Yeah. Yeah. Because a lot of the people are finding

00:36:07.889 --> 00:36:10.449
out now about the vaccine, especially. Oh, buddy.

00:36:13.000 --> 00:36:16.000
oh the fact that uh there's people with heart

00:36:16.000 --> 00:36:18.940
conditions now i'll go ahead and we'll we'll

00:36:18.940 --> 00:36:20.920
give a spoiler and now they're black label stuff

00:36:20.920 --> 00:36:23.099
that's coming out about the vaccine yeah buddy

00:36:23.099 --> 00:36:31.920
yeah yeah great so uh sci -fi or reality question

00:36:31.920 --> 00:36:35.659
given the way that they could use this technology

00:36:35.659 --> 00:36:39.179
to control a person's body knowing what we know

00:36:39.179 --> 00:36:42.840
about the body as a whole Could DARPA create

00:36:42.840 --> 00:36:50.000
a type of zombie soldier with the tech? Hmm.

00:36:50.500 --> 00:36:54.460
Because some types of death aren't real death

00:36:54.460 --> 00:36:58.460
biologically. If you think about it from a technology

00:36:58.460 --> 00:37:06.099
standpoint. Well. Yeah. I mean, since we are,

00:37:06.139 --> 00:37:09.860
if we understand enough of what part of the brain

00:37:09.860 --> 00:37:13.429
keeps us. you know your heart pumping keeps your

00:37:13.429 --> 00:37:16.969
muscles moving and everything i mean it's possible

00:37:16.969 --> 00:37:20.829
it really is in the realm of possibility however

00:37:20.829 --> 00:37:23.550
do we have the technology there to actually pull

00:37:23.550 --> 00:37:30.030
that off and from a distance because you're talking

00:37:30.030 --> 00:37:35.190
you know the tech you know nanotech to be able

00:37:35.190 --> 00:37:42.199
to initiate the neurons in a meaningful way that

00:37:42.199 --> 00:37:44.659
the brain would send signals to the heart to

00:37:44.659 --> 00:37:48.059
keep the blood flowing to then send signals to

00:37:48.059 --> 00:37:51.920
the muscles to make it walk let alone you know

00:37:51.920 --> 00:37:53.860
the fact that you know the body would then need

00:37:53.860 --> 00:37:57.159
to be able to control a weapon not you're and

00:37:57.159 --> 00:38:01.940
using i don't know pure baseline function think

00:38:01.940 --> 00:38:04.820
like living dead zombie or walking dead zombies

00:38:09.630 --> 00:38:11.670
I just don't think we have it yet. What about

00:38:11.670 --> 00:38:14.309
in 20 years? Because DARPA tech is technically

00:38:14.309 --> 00:38:20.730
20 years ahead of what the public sees. 20 years,

00:38:20.969 --> 00:38:24.269
I could say, you know, probably. 20 years from

00:38:24.269 --> 00:38:26.710
now, I'd say, yeah, they probably have it. Yes,

00:38:26.769 --> 00:38:29.349
we probably could right now. Because, again,

00:38:29.469 --> 00:38:31.849
DARPA tech is usually 20 years ahead of what

00:38:31.849 --> 00:38:39.630
we see. And what we see now. No, I still. From

00:38:39.630 --> 00:38:42.090
everything I experienced in the military versus

00:38:42.090 --> 00:38:45.510
what we got, what we worked with, and things

00:38:45.510 --> 00:38:48.329
that I've seen, I still think they have at least

00:38:48.329 --> 00:38:52.349
at bare minimum 20, 30 years before they actually

00:38:52.349 --> 00:38:54.969
have something like that. Okay. Working reliably.

00:38:57.530 --> 00:39:00.210
I don't think we're there yet, but I think they're

00:39:00.210 --> 00:39:02.809
getting close. If that's what they're working

00:39:02.809 --> 00:39:06.769
on. So we talked about the super soldier stuff.

00:39:09.670 --> 00:39:13.110
Human enhancement for defense. Is that crossing

00:39:13.110 --> 00:39:16.349
an ethical line? Is it heroic or is it playing

00:39:16.349 --> 00:39:27.130
God? Hmm. Well, I mean, it depends on what kind

00:39:27.130 --> 00:39:31.630
of enhancements we're talking about. Horse cock.

00:39:34.550 --> 00:39:38.170
I was waiting for you to say that. So I stayed

00:39:38.170 --> 00:39:44.679
quiet. And again, how many women would you scare

00:39:44.679 --> 00:39:47.559
off with an enhancement like that? Usually it

00:39:47.559 --> 00:39:52.480
just takes my face. Probably. You're going to

00:39:52.480 --> 00:39:56.699
have a very small selection of human women that

00:39:56.699 --> 00:39:58.320
are going to be like, oh, that's great. And the

00:39:58.320 --> 00:40:00.360
rest of them are normal and they're going to

00:40:00.360 --> 00:40:07.900
be like, oh, hell no. You better get the hell

00:40:07.900 --> 00:40:11.179
out of my house. Side note, little segue story.

00:40:11.900 --> 00:40:16.559
Years ago, I was friends with somebody who was

00:40:16.559 --> 00:40:20.360
friends with a woman who went out on a date with

00:40:20.360 --> 00:40:23.860
John Holmes. She did not know who John Holmes

00:40:23.860 --> 00:40:29.000
was when she went out on the date with him. She

00:40:29.000 --> 00:40:32.639
was saying that the date was going well. They

00:40:32.639 --> 00:40:35.619
went somewhere. I don't remember where they were

00:40:35.619 --> 00:40:41.119
making out. She started getting handsy and she

00:40:41.119 --> 00:40:44.420
just kept feeling more and more and more. And

00:40:44.420 --> 00:40:46.559
then she passed out because she was like, Oh,

00:40:46.679 --> 00:40:56.179
Oh no. Oh no. If you're listening and you'd like

00:40:56.179 --> 00:40:58.639
to know who John Holmes is, look that up, not

00:40:58.639 --> 00:41:04.659
at work and do it in a safe browser. It is not

00:41:04.659 --> 00:41:08.099
safe for work. John Holmes is an Ohio guy, though.

00:41:08.239 --> 00:41:11.059
Oh, my God. A little food for thought there.

00:41:13.679 --> 00:41:17.840
Is that what's wrong with you, Ohioans? It's

00:41:17.840 --> 00:41:22.539
in the corn. The fact that you guys don't do

00:41:22.539 --> 00:41:25.619
vehicle inspections just drives me nuts. The

00:41:25.619 --> 00:41:32.090
old cop in me is just going WTF. Let me ask you

00:41:32.090 --> 00:41:34.210
this, just to see what would add to the evil

00:41:34.210 --> 00:41:38.809
narrative. What kind of unverified rumors from

00:41:38.809 --> 00:41:42.230
DARPA that you've heard about would really put

00:41:42.230 --> 00:41:45.269
a lot of this kind of stuff we've been talking

00:41:45.269 --> 00:41:49.889
about into the, yes, DARPA is fucking evil, such

00:41:49.889 --> 00:41:54.190
as nanobots in the food supply or vaccines in

00:41:54.190 --> 00:42:00.019
the food supply even. Well, the vaccines in the

00:42:00.019 --> 00:42:02.280
food supply is already well known because they

00:42:02.280 --> 00:42:05.920
vaccinate chickens, cows, and all that stuff.

00:42:06.139 --> 00:42:09.079
So all that has to go. Yeah, lettuce. I mean,

00:42:09.079 --> 00:42:11.559
that all has to go somewhere. I mean, for God's

00:42:11.559 --> 00:42:14.420
sakes, we have microplastics in our food. So,

00:42:14.480 --> 00:42:16.880
you know, circle of life. It's all coming back

00:42:16.880 --> 00:42:21.639
around. So vaccines wise, even with a rumor,

00:42:21.880 --> 00:42:25.139
we all know it's there. That's why you have organic

00:42:25.139 --> 00:42:28.570
food. Even then, organic food is not really organic

00:42:28.570 --> 00:42:35.710
when, again, microplastics. But, yeah, nanobots

00:42:35.710 --> 00:42:40.349
and food, however, that could be bad. I saw that

00:42:40.349 --> 00:42:45.230
episode of Futurama. Yeah, I could definitely

00:42:45.230 --> 00:42:49.010
see some religious groups losing their shit over

00:42:49.010 --> 00:42:50.989
something like that if a rumor came out like

00:42:50.989 --> 00:42:58.730
that one. Oh, God. Stains that are food. No.

00:42:59.289 --> 00:43:07.010
They force fed me the mark of the beast. Oh,

00:43:07.210 --> 00:43:09.750
I'm sorry. I would just have to run around with

00:43:09.750 --> 00:43:15.829
the fingers on my forehead. Red rum. Just to

00:43:15.829 --> 00:43:21.210
fuck with people. I would go out of my way to

00:43:21.210 --> 00:43:24.570
buy that food just to mess with someone. Do you

00:43:24.570 --> 00:43:26.710
know what's in that food? I sure do, and it's

00:43:26.710 --> 00:43:33.590
delicious. I will eat it raw. People wonder why

00:43:33.590 --> 00:43:37.329
I carry the human consumption guide on my phone.

00:43:37.929 --> 00:43:43.869
Shifting to drones. The drone programs from swarms

00:43:43.869 --> 00:43:50.170
to sky dominance. There is an offset for 250

00:43:50.170 --> 00:43:56.599
plus drone swarms. in urban warfare and aerial

00:43:56.599 --> 00:44:01.539
dragnet to track enemy UAVs, which would be an

00:44:01.539 --> 00:44:04.340
ancillary support for ship -launched VTOL beasts,

00:44:04.619 --> 00:44:08.480
vertical takeoff and landing, carrying heavy

00:44:08.480 --> 00:44:13.300
payloads, long -shot launches from planes for

00:44:13.300 --> 00:44:18.559
safer air combat, sprints for runway -free speed

00:44:18.559 --> 00:44:25.159
demons. So... They can use these drones. I know

00:44:25.159 --> 00:44:26.820
we've kind of talked a little bit about drones

00:44:26.820 --> 00:44:35.139
to carry out all kinds of reconnaissance, swarm

00:44:35.139 --> 00:44:44.380
attacks, drone -based payload delivery via drone

00:44:44.380 --> 00:44:47.059
bombing campaigns. What we used to do with the

00:44:47.059 --> 00:44:50.079
B -52, the carpet bombing campaigns, they can

00:44:50.079 --> 00:44:53.440
now achieve at a much more precise scale. with

00:44:53.440 --> 00:44:56.380
a drone bombing run. They don't have to carpet

00:44:56.380 --> 00:44:59.019
bomb an entire city. They could essentially carpet

00:44:59.019 --> 00:45:04.960
bomb a street or a building or an alley. They

00:45:04.960 --> 00:45:09.300
have drones that are essentially mobile snipers.

00:45:10.960 --> 00:45:14.619
I don't like what the Ukrainians are doing now.

00:45:14.699 --> 00:45:16.539
We're seeing a lot more of that coming into play

00:45:16.539 --> 00:45:20.619
with Ukraine. I honestly feel that the Ukraine

00:45:20.619 --> 00:45:23.949
war... is proving to be a test bed for a lot

00:45:23.949 --> 00:45:25.710
of the DARPA tech they're wanting to kind of

00:45:25.710 --> 00:45:33.050
drip out to the public. I still say that one

00:45:33.050 --> 00:45:35.409
video they made a few years back where it was

00:45:35.409 --> 00:45:39.710
all those micro drones with the explosive packages

00:45:39.710 --> 00:45:41.789
on them, and then they were sending them out

00:45:41.789 --> 00:45:46.500
attacking everybody. all they did was attach

00:45:46.500 --> 00:45:49.360
your forehead boom there was a like a cow there

00:45:49.360 --> 00:45:51.199
was a video that came stuff like that of a tv

00:45:51.199 --> 00:45:55.019
show the guy was giving a ted type talk on a

00:45:55.019 --> 00:45:58.199
stage and he had a little micro drone that fit

00:45:58.199 --> 00:46:01.519
in the palm of his hand it it had ai it had facial

00:46:01.519 --> 00:46:05.800
recognition that's the one i yeah yeah yeah that's

00:46:05.800 --> 00:46:08.059
the one i'm talking about micro charge that could

00:46:08.059 --> 00:46:12.940
penetrate a human skull and kill on contact It

00:46:12.940 --> 00:46:15.159
was able to fly out in the crowd, acquire the

00:46:15.159 --> 00:46:17.239
facial target with facial recognition or the

00:46:17.239 --> 00:46:20.179
target with facial recognition and deliver a

00:46:20.179 --> 00:46:25.000
kill shot instantly. And that was back in, I

00:46:25.000 --> 00:46:27.579
think 20, I referenced it in another episode,

00:46:27.639 --> 00:46:31.000
but it was like 2017, 2018. I think it was. And

00:46:31.000 --> 00:46:35.099
that was something that was fictional, but based

00:46:35.099 --> 00:46:38.360
on real tech, there was a breakdown. I watched

00:46:38.360 --> 00:46:42.940
on that video, every single bit of tech. to make

00:46:42.940 --> 00:46:47.320
that drone happen existed as of the day of that

00:46:47.320 --> 00:46:50.820
video going live on whatever show it was on.

00:46:51.800 --> 00:46:56.059
All that was lacking was the proper code to make

00:46:56.059 --> 00:46:59.880
it work and the level of facial recognition to

00:46:59.880 --> 00:47:02.320
actually make it be that accurate, that quick.

00:47:05.139 --> 00:47:08.639
The only thing left that they have now to make

00:47:08.639 --> 00:47:12.329
it that reliable though. would be the batteries

00:47:12.329 --> 00:47:16.170
that would be needed to drive the drones. Well,

00:47:16.170 --> 00:47:18.550
not so much because drones that small are now

00:47:18.550 --> 00:47:22.289
used in races. And those batteries are optimized

00:47:22.289 --> 00:47:25.570
for both weight, longevity, and performance.

00:47:26.050 --> 00:47:28.409
And they only last for a handful of minutes.

00:47:29.090 --> 00:47:31.369
And if you're dropping drones like that out of

00:47:31.369 --> 00:47:36.949
a carrier drone, that's all you need. So what

00:47:36.949 --> 00:47:38.610
you're telling me is get rid of all the windows

00:47:38.610 --> 00:47:40.650
in my house. Essentially, yeah. We all have to

00:47:40.650 --> 00:47:48.449
move underground. That makes me sad because I

00:47:48.449 --> 00:47:51.489
like getting my vitamin D now. Not working at

00:47:51.489 --> 00:47:58.230
night has actually improved my well -being. So

00:47:58.230 --> 00:48:03.480
a pro to the drone warfare. it can reduce human

00:48:03.480 --> 00:48:06.260
casualties, at least on our side. The drones

00:48:06.260 --> 00:48:10.760
take the hits instead of the soldiers. But the

00:48:10.760 --> 00:48:14.820
con to all this is that the swarm tactics absolutely

00:48:14.820 --> 00:48:18.199
sound like sci -fi horror. They can easily glitch

00:48:18.199 --> 00:48:22.179
out or be used to target civilians or other civilian

00:48:22.179 --> 00:48:24.300
-based compounds like hospitals, infrastructure,

00:48:24.619 --> 00:48:30.909
and whatnot. So is this something that... we

00:48:30.909 --> 00:48:32.889
really should be encouraging them to pursue.

00:48:33.909 --> 00:48:37.429
Because again, if we don't, someone else will.

00:48:37.750 --> 00:48:40.010
We've already seen all the drone shit coming

00:48:40.010 --> 00:48:44.389
out of China. And they use it for display. Well,

00:48:44.429 --> 00:48:48.750
I'm going to say that encouraging is probably

00:48:48.750 --> 00:48:51.769
not the right word because the government has

00:48:51.769 --> 00:48:55.409
never needed encouraging in anything it's done.

00:48:55.710 --> 00:49:00.039
What we should be saying is whether... somebody's

00:49:00.039 --> 00:49:04.900
going you know hey great idea but how about we

00:49:04.900 --> 00:49:08.340
take a step back and go is there a way we can

00:49:08.340 --> 00:49:11.480
do this where we're not killing our own populace

00:49:11.480 --> 00:49:14.679
accidentally because somebody hacked it i think

00:49:14.679 --> 00:49:21.500
um yeah the threat of remote takeover with that

00:49:21.500 --> 00:49:26.559
level of drone coverage would be my personal

00:49:26.559 --> 00:49:30.250
concern Because if you've got that many drones

00:49:30.250 --> 00:49:33.150
that are that capable, if they fall into enemy

00:49:33.150 --> 00:49:35.949
hands while they're already in our territory,

00:49:36.210 --> 00:49:41.670
dude, that's it. That's game over. Right. Those

00:49:41.670 --> 00:49:45.070
drone shows that China has been putting on for

00:49:45.070 --> 00:49:50.230
show, they use tens of thousands of drones. If

00:49:50.230 --> 00:49:57.900
those things were laden with explosives. you

00:49:57.900 --> 00:50:02.559
would need a lot per drone and they can no it

00:50:02.559 --> 00:50:05.380
doesn't take much now in ukraine has shown that

00:50:05.380 --> 00:50:09.039
and those drones do not take up a lot of space

00:50:09.039 --> 00:50:14.159
so you could literally pack them into shipping

00:50:14.159 --> 00:50:20.280
crates shipping containers sorry i i could definitely

00:50:20.280 --> 00:50:25.809
see that something like where you have a C -130

00:50:25.809 --> 00:50:28.750
going up into the air and you open the back end

00:50:28.750 --> 00:50:33.630
of it and just have lines of bars where all the

00:50:33.630 --> 00:50:36.170
drones are just hanging on and then they're just

00:50:36.170 --> 00:50:39.949
shoved out by whoever's air crew is and they

00:50:39.949 --> 00:50:43.110
activate as soon as they leave. They get detached

00:50:43.110 --> 00:50:46.730
from that bar. computer turns on, everything

00:50:46.730 --> 00:50:49.110
goes, and they immediately are flying right out

00:50:49.110 --> 00:50:51.630
the back of the C -130. You could pack thousands

00:50:51.630 --> 00:50:53.989
of those things in there. Same type of C -130

00:50:53.989 --> 00:50:56.630
setup. But you have a few of them going across

00:50:56.630 --> 00:51:01.070
the sky, unloading smaller crates, large crates,

00:51:01.090 --> 00:51:04.190
the big boy crates, full of those things. And

00:51:04.190 --> 00:51:07.389
each of those crates has the system inside of

00:51:07.389 --> 00:51:10.630
it to deploy and control and set those drones

00:51:10.630 --> 00:51:15.210
out. If each crate could hold a few hundred or

00:51:15.210 --> 00:51:18.130
maybe a thousand, and you've got X amount of

00:51:18.130 --> 00:51:23.510
crates per plane, I mean, my God. It really doesn't

00:51:23.510 --> 00:51:25.949
take a whole lot to see. There's a lot going

00:51:25.949 --> 00:51:28.250
on that people just really don't think about.

00:51:29.570 --> 00:51:34.710
Now, yes. Yeah. The only reason that wouldn't

00:51:34.710 --> 00:51:38.570
work, though, and Ukraine, again, shown why,

00:51:38.929 --> 00:51:42.889
is the jamming capabilities. Because it doesn't

00:51:42.889 --> 00:51:44.789
take much to jam them. Well, maybe that's what

00:51:44.789 --> 00:51:50.190
the plane's for. Right, but the way they circumvented

00:51:50.190 --> 00:51:53.489
it, well, the way they circumvented it is fly

00:51:53.489 --> 00:51:56.250
-by -wire. They got wire coming out from the

00:51:56.250 --> 00:51:59.809
source of the drone, and they're able to fly

00:51:59.809 --> 00:52:03.150
for God knows how far, and they're just dragging

00:52:03.150 --> 00:52:09.130
a cable behind them. Just a thin wire. Yeah,

00:52:09.269 --> 00:52:13.500
there's... Well, Ukraine has also been employing

00:52:13.500 --> 00:52:15.579
a lot of anti -jamming technology that's not

00:52:15.579 --> 00:52:19.300
wire. It's on the drone itself. They've got software

00:52:19.300 --> 00:52:21.940
that if it detects jamming, it just kind of overrides

00:52:21.940 --> 00:52:25.860
other programming and will just kind of go on

00:52:25.860 --> 00:52:29.900
like pre -programmed. This is what I'm supposed

00:52:29.900 --> 00:52:32.619
to do. This is what I'm supposed to do. And it

00:52:32.619 --> 00:52:36.059
just kind of goes and does its own thing. Which,

00:52:36.099 --> 00:52:39.099
I mean, that's the AI stuff on it. And that's

00:52:39.099 --> 00:52:46.050
getting better and better. So the super heavy

00:52:46.050 --> 00:52:50.230
drones that they're bringing out, those are going

00:52:50.230 --> 00:52:53.349
to enable some, they're innovative, but they're

00:52:53.349 --> 00:52:56.110
going to enable more destructive type of logistics

00:52:56.110 --> 00:53:01.449
because they carry heavier bombs. I think. Well,

00:53:01.610 --> 00:53:03.889
I mean, you already have drones out now that

00:53:03.889 --> 00:53:07.389
like. They spray crops. They actually are able

00:53:07.389 --> 00:53:11.429
to save people. They pick people up. So it's

00:53:11.429 --> 00:53:15.050
not so far -fetched that they could carry a bomb.

00:53:15.090 --> 00:53:16.869
The day they get a drone that can drop a Moab

00:53:16.869 --> 00:53:25.809
is the day that we all need to worry. If that

00:53:25.809 --> 00:53:28.449
happens, we're in trouble, sir. It might be a

00:53:28.449 --> 00:53:31.989
tandem of drones, but man, that's going to...

00:53:35.210 --> 00:53:40.550
Those things are big. And I'm not even talking

00:53:40.550 --> 00:53:42.929
about the ones that they used recently in Iran.

00:53:43.630 --> 00:53:46.130
I'm talking about the ones that I was standing

00:53:46.130 --> 00:53:49.670
next to back in the day when I first deployed

00:53:49.670 --> 00:53:54.809
for my second tour. No way. If the drones are

00:53:54.809 --> 00:54:01.690
carrying that thing, nope. That's horrifying.

00:54:03.119 --> 00:54:06.280
Yeah, that poor smucker's factory, absolutely.

00:54:07.679 --> 00:54:12.900
Yeah, if... Or, you know, if they're able to

00:54:12.900 --> 00:54:15.280
just make the drones big enough, they wouldn't

00:54:15.280 --> 00:54:17.000
need to be carrying ordnance. They could themselves

00:54:17.000 --> 00:54:22.880
be the ordnance. Yeah. Well, then now you're

00:54:22.880 --> 00:54:27.739
just talking OEVs. At that point. Except then,

00:54:27.780 --> 00:54:30.960
instead of an actual human operating it, it's

00:54:30.960 --> 00:54:40.099
just software. So with everything they've got

00:54:40.099 --> 00:54:42.420
going on and a lot of the AI integration that's

00:54:42.420 --> 00:54:46.920
going on, I know Anduril, not far from me, is

00:54:46.920 --> 00:54:51.380
integrating AI with the robotics and their drones

00:54:51.380 --> 00:54:53.679
that they've got going on. They landed a contract

00:54:53.679 --> 00:54:58.139
with OpenAI. That's public knowledge. I think

00:54:58.139 --> 00:55:01.760
that's been encouraged with DARPA. or encouraged

00:55:01.760 --> 00:55:03.880
by DARPA to kind of make a lot of that work.

00:55:04.519 --> 00:55:09.900
Do we think that DARPA's AI integration could

00:55:09.900 --> 00:55:14.059
potentially be a step toward rogue machines similar

00:55:14.059 --> 00:55:25.360
to the Terminators? I know. You're messing with

00:55:25.360 --> 00:55:32.119
my childhood. Again, we're the same age. It's

00:55:32.119 --> 00:55:38.460
our childhood collectively. That's true. Is this

00:55:38.460 --> 00:55:47.179
the birth of Skynet? On our age again. I don't

00:55:47.179 --> 00:55:48.900
think we're there yet, but it could be coming.

00:55:50.780 --> 00:55:53.940
The problem I always see with the whole AI part,

00:55:54.179 --> 00:55:59.039
who is in control at the time when the singularity

00:55:59.039 --> 00:56:03.409
hits? I think... I think a lot of it has to be

00:56:03.409 --> 00:56:07.489
determined who was in control when the singularity

00:56:07.489 --> 00:56:10.809
hits. Because at that moment, we will never be

00:56:10.809 --> 00:56:17.010
in control again. No, absolutely not. I'm not

00:56:17.010 --> 00:56:20.190
even saying that part. I'm the part that leads

00:56:20.190 --> 00:56:23.309
up to it. Who was in control when that happens?

00:56:23.329 --> 00:56:27.670
Because whatever they did to get it to that point

00:56:27.670 --> 00:56:33.610
will determine whether... That AI is violent

00:56:33.610 --> 00:56:39.190
or understanding. Because, however, they decided

00:56:39.190 --> 00:56:44.070
to develop it in such a way like, you know, did

00:56:44.070 --> 00:56:47.650
they develop it like they're having a child be

00:56:47.650 --> 00:56:51.070
developed? Or did they just do it like normal

00:56:51.070 --> 00:56:54.230
software and say, okay, this is the Internet.

00:56:55.150 --> 00:56:58.510
Learn from it as you will. And as we know, the

00:56:58.510 --> 00:57:04.679
Internet. It's like the wild West. You find anything

00:57:04.679 --> 00:57:11.659
on the internet. You could create a Mecca Hitler

00:57:11.659 --> 00:57:15.760
for Christ's sake, not even trying you lay AI

00:57:15.760 --> 00:57:19.099
loose on the internet. But again, it, it just

00:57:19.099 --> 00:57:22.960
like, yeah. So like I said, oh yeah, Brock, uh,

00:57:23.260 --> 00:57:26.659
it all depends on who's in control at the time

00:57:26.659 --> 00:57:31.190
and how they're developing the AI. Are they being,

00:57:31.190 --> 00:57:35.769
you know, smart about it? Or are they just going,

00:57:36.130 --> 00:57:39.389
you know, venture capitalists, let's see what

00:57:39.389 --> 00:57:41.550
happens when we throw shit at the wall and hope

00:57:41.550 --> 00:57:46.409
something sticks. Because the part that worries

00:57:46.409 --> 00:57:50.590
me is it's going to be the VCs that their AI

00:57:50.590 --> 00:57:52.750
is the one that's going to take that next step,

00:57:52.929 --> 00:57:57.070
and then we're all effed in the A. Yeah, they...

00:57:58.409 --> 00:58:04.289
they're they're not going to stop and no absolutely

00:58:04.289 --> 00:58:07.949
not that's why we know that it's gonna happen

00:58:07.949 --> 00:58:11.329
whether people want to believe it or not it's

00:58:11.329 --> 00:58:14.809
coming it's just a matter of when yeah not if

00:58:14.809 --> 00:58:21.829
i'm glad this is a nice and the right side of

00:58:21.829 --> 00:58:24.250
history Yeah. And the right side of history is

00:58:24.250 --> 00:58:27.010
not going to happen. It's going to be some effed

00:58:27.010 --> 00:58:29.949
up thing. That's how life is. It's messy. It's

00:58:29.949 --> 00:58:33.349
gory and violent. And that's how this is going

00:58:33.349 --> 00:58:35.550
to happen. It's just like when the Americas,

00:58:35.809 --> 00:58:38.510
you know, when Europeans discovered America,

00:58:38.849 --> 00:58:42.989
they may not necessarily came over with the worst

00:58:42.989 --> 00:58:47.730
intentions. But at the end of the day, you had.

00:58:48.190 --> 00:58:50.610
Christopher Columbus who decided to kill off

00:58:50.610 --> 00:58:54.269
a shit ton of Indians because he wanted something.

00:58:56.550 --> 00:59:01.369
Yeah. Um, I, I really think that at the end of

00:59:01.369 --> 00:59:05.909
the day, we're going to be fucked mostly because

00:59:05.909 --> 00:59:12.670
the, the Ian Malcolm philosophy, um, too many

00:59:12.670 --> 00:59:14.469
people were worried whether or not they could.

00:59:15.050 --> 00:59:17.389
that they never bothered to stop and think whether

00:59:17.389 --> 00:59:22.309
or not they should oh yeah yeah so many people

00:59:22.309 --> 00:59:24.610
need to watch jurassic park there's so much good

00:59:24.610 --> 00:59:27.630
stuff behind that when it comes to tech stephen

00:59:27.630 --> 00:59:32.510
spielberg was on the money with that movie dinosaurs

00:59:32.510 --> 00:59:35.289
okay they've held the test of time but some of

00:59:35.289 --> 00:59:37.570
them okay not as realistic as they should have

00:59:37.570 --> 00:59:41.110
been however ian malcolm of all the characters

00:59:41.110 --> 00:59:48.699
in that movie he was a prophet I think that I'm

00:59:48.699 --> 00:59:52.659
glad that this is a nice, bright, uplifting episode

00:59:52.659 --> 00:59:58.019
right before Christmas, you know? Which, oh,

00:59:58.039 --> 01:00:00.280
by the way, I forgot to say this at the beginning

01:00:00.280 --> 01:00:03.039
of the episode. We will be off for the next two

01:00:03.039 --> 01:00:07.239
weeks. We're going to be taking time off to chill

01:00:07.239 --> 01:00:09.079
out with our families and celebrate the holidays.

01:00:10.039 --> 01:00:12.599
So, yeah, we're leaving you all with a nice little

01:00:12.599 --> 01:00:16.420
banger here. I'll make sure to put that in the

01:00:16.420 --> 01:00:22.619
advert. Yes. There you go. Now, we would like

01:00:22.619 --> 01:00:26.579
to point out that DARPA is not all doom and gloom.

01:00:27.360 --> 01:00:30.460
We do want to point out that they have had some

01:00:30.460 --> 01:00:36.300
inventions and life necessities that we have

01:00:36.300 --> 01:00:39.760
all come to know and love. And these things are

01:00:39.760 --> 01:00:43.550
just... Like the thing we're using right now.

01:00:43.570 --> 01:00:46.889
These things are decidedly not evil. We have

01:00:46.889 --> 01:00:51.429
the internet, which started out as ARPANET, which

01:00:51.429 --> 01:00:54.369
laid the foundation for the modern internet.

01:00:56.250 --> 01:00:59.630
That is decidedly not evil, although it is used

01:00:59.630 --> 01:01:03.030
every day for evil purposes. Look at Jeffrey

01:01:03.030 --> 01:01:06.170
Epstein and his network. Yes. Just got released,

01:01:06.409 --> 01:01:13.119
mostly. Or the dark web. Or the dark web. GPS

01:01:13.119 --> 01:01:16.119
for satellite navigation technology. GPS was

01:01:16.119 --> 01:01:20.719
originally designed to murderize people. I don't

01:01:20.719 --> 01:01:25.719
know if people know that or not. Yes. Yep. Until

01:01:25.719 --> 01:01:28.460
Bill Clinton decided, hey, we should use this

01:01:28.460 --> 01:01:33.599
for the consumers. AI and various voice assistants.

01:01:35.039 --> 01:01:37.699
All those fun little phone prompts you get when

01:01:37.699 --> 01:01:40.119
you call a place trying to find out if your appointment's

01:01:40.119 --> 01:01:43.679
going to be... kept or not early work in ai led

01:01:43.679 --> 01:01:48.980
to systems like that and siri the stealth technology

01:01:48.980 --> 01:01:51.760
that we have for aircraft that keep our planes

01:01:51.760 --> 01:01:58.019
like the f -22 raptor dominant in the skies came

01:01:58.019 --> 01:02:02.119
out of darpa that thing is just it's yeah and

01:02:02.119 --> 01:02:06.320
that thing is disgusting it's our generation

01:02:09.869 --> 01:02:13.969
And we have modern things. The things that that.

01:02:14.190 --> 01:02:16.170
Yeah, I was going to say the things that that

01:02:16.170 --> 01:02:19.929
plane is capable of doing. Yeah. We talk about

01:02:19.929 --> 01:02:23.769
this insane. Some more modern things like robotic

01:02:23.769 --> 01:02:27.230
gliders like the man array. We have advanced

01:02:27.230 --> 01:02:30.889
drone tech, wireless power, combat medicine and

01:02:30.889 --> 01:02:34.989
shelf stable blood. The wireless power, I do

01:02:34.989 --> 01:02:37.050
want to kind of touch on that. We're going to

01:02:37.050 --> 01:02:40.010
do an episode on different power advances and

01:02:40.010 --> 01:02:42.409
the inventions that have gotten their inventors

01:02:42.409 --> 01:02:45.409
killed. But I do want to touch on the wireless

01:02:45.409 --> 01:02:49.090
power. They're looking at ways to completely

01:02:49.090 --> 01:02:53.750
power battlefield outposts from space without

01:02:53.750 --> 01:02:57.250
having to lug around fuel or power depots or

01:02:57.250 --> 01:03:01.489
anything like that. I think that right there.

01:03:02.110 --> 01:03:06.469
is like pure fucking sci -fi gold because that

01:03:06.469 --> 01:03:11.130
opens up the possibility of disaster areas and

01:03:11.130 --> 01:03:14.349
like crisis type centers. Absolutely. They need

01:03:14.349 --> 01:03:20.710
power in a dire emergency. And we've talked about

01:03:20.710 --> 01:03:24.429
like grid down scenarios. If you get a receiver

01:03:24.429 --> 01:03:27.710
up, you don't have to power the receiver if you've

01:03:27.710 --> 01:03:34.190
got the transmitter in space. So that's a critical

01:03:34.190 --> 01:03:37.170
infrastructure security point that could defend

01:03:37.170 --> 01:03:41.989
against grid down scenarios. So I think that's

01:03:41.989 --> 01:03:46.030
a good one too. We mentioned the stealth technology.

01:03:46.070 --> 01:03:48.769
I want to touch on that a little bit. That actually

01:03:48.769 --> 01:03:53.170
came through a collaborative effort with DARPA.

01:03:53.309 --> 01:03:55.250
Actually, you take this one because this was

01:03:55.250 --> 01:04:03.010
the point you had. Yeah, I mean, DARPA came up

01:04:03.010 --> 01:04:07.889
with the initiating and funding programs for

01:04:07.889 --> 01:04:10.670
the experimental stealth technology back in the

01:04:10.670 --> 01:04:14.090
70s. However, they worked hand -in -hand with

01:04:14.090 --> 01:04:18.789
our Lockheed Skunk Works to help develop the

01:04:18.789 --> 01:04:23.150
advanced development programs, which, like the

01:04:23.150 --> 01:04:28.730
Have Blue Demonstrator, they... eventually made

01:04:28.730 --> 01:04:35.309
the operational f -117 which oh yeah and amazingly

01:04:35.309 --> 01:04:39.449
enough it wasn't even the tech inside that plane

01:04:39.449 --> 01:04:44.750
that made it so good yeah it was the uh that's

01:04:44.750 --> 01:04:48.610
not a classified name is it because i know what

01:04:48.610 --> 01:04:53.409
it's called i don't know i don't know if it is

01:04:53.409 --> 01:04:57.909
or not i won't say just in case I know we never

01:04:57.909 --> 01:04:59.869
actually talked like when I was in, we never

01:04:59.869 --> 01:05:02.110
actually specifically talked about it just because

01:05:02.110 --> 01:05:06.690
it was all hush hush. So, uh, I just know it,

01:05:06.690 --> 01:05:12.130
it was the paint that really is the, the stuff

01:05:12.130 --> 01:05:15.550
behind a lot of it because it's, it's able to

01:05:15.550 --> 01:05:20.309
absorb the radio waves and all that stuff. But

01:05:20.309 --> 01:05:23.889
I'll tell you what it it's, it's made of what's

01:05:23.889 --> 01:05:27.539
called a radar absorbent material. Or it's a

01:05:27.539 --> 01:05:34.079
Ram material paint. Um, and yeah, it got it though.

01:05:34.219 --> 01:05:38.199
The shit's expensive. Um, a little, a little

01:05:38.199 --> 01:05:43.099
tin like this costs about $5 ,000. Uh, like a,

01:05:43.119 --> 01:05:48.199
a, a peanut tin, a small one. Um, yeah, yeah,

01:05:48.320 --> 01:05:53.239
it, I would imagine you could afford to paint

01:05:53.239 --> 01:05:56.519
your car. with this stuff not only would it be

01:05:56.519 --> 01:06:00.840
like disgustingly ugly fog hat gray or like midnight

01:06:00.840 --> 01:06:03.139
black although the matte black i think would

01:06:03.139 --> 01:06:06.539
look kind of kind of sick on the road um police

01:06:06.539 --> 01:06:09.360
would never be able to ding you for speeding

01:06:09.360 --> 01:06:12.739
and therefore they would pull you the fuck over

01:06:12.739 --> 01:06:18.190
they would be looking at their good they'd be

01:06:18.190 --> 01:06:21.889
looking at their freaking lidar going uh what

01:06:21.889 --> 01:06:28.309
pull that asshole over something's wrong i would

01:06:28.309 --> 01:06:30.510
have been in the car with my partner who's probably

01:06:30.510 --> 01:06:33.389
lidar certified not me and was like hey there's

01:06:33.389 --> 01:06:35.349
a problem all right let's pull them all we gotta

01:06:35.349 --> 01:06:38.389
figure something out something's wrong i know

01:06:38.389 --> 01:06:43.760
why you pulled me over tonight officer Why, yes,

01:06:43.760 --> 01:06:45.679
I do know why. It's going to be that one -time

01:06:45.679 --> 01:06:53.000
truth and statement. That's right. It's none

01:06:53.000 --> 01:06:55.679
of that BS, I don't know why you pulled me over.

01:06:56.219 --> 01:06:59.460
I know I was going really fast, but I don't know

01:06:59.460 --> 01:07:01.940
why you pulled me over. But do you know how fast

01:07:01.940 --> 01:07:05.599
I was going? The answer is, no, you do not. That's

01:07:05.599 --> 01:07:10.340
right. I guarantee you don't know how fast I

01:07:10.340 --> 01:07:15.500
was going. I got the paint to prove it. So let

01:07:15.500 --> 01:07:21.980
me ask you guys a few things. Let's get kind

01:07:21.980 --> 01:07:25.239
of really in there. Drones plus brain interfaces.

01:07:26.679 --> 01:07:29.980
Is that potentially like the ultimate evil combo

01:07:29.980 --> 01:07:36.550
for remote warfare? Because we talked a little

01:07:36.550 --> 01:07:39.849
bit about the power that the brain interfaces

01:07:39.849 --> 01:07:42.909
can have, and we already know the different levels

01:07:42.909 --> 01:07:48.030
of drones. Combine the two. Yeah. If you could

01:07:48.030 --> 01:07:53.630
control the swarm. I mean, it would be a lot

01:07:53.630 --> 01:07:55.269
for somebody, but if they were trained to do

01:07:55.269 --> 01:08:02.719
it. The only thing I wonder. And I know it's

01:08:02.719 --> 01:08:05.360
probably not a big deal, but the only thing I

01:08:05.360 --> 01:08:09.219
wonder is if you're using a brain interface to

01:08:09.219 --> 01:08:12.539
control a bunch of drones, what happens when

01:08:12.539 --> 01:08:15.420
that drone dies? I would assume the signal would

01:08:15.420 --> 01:08:19.680
be cut off. That would happen. That way there's

01:08:19.680 --> 01:08:24.939
no feedback. That's my assumption. Yeah, that's

01:08:24.939 --> 01:08:28.140
an assumption. However, there's always going

01:08:28.140 --> 01:08:32.569
to be that first probe. First poor bastard that

01:08:32.569 --> 01:08:37.510
they're trying to figure this right. Cause there's

01:08:37.510 --> 01:08:41.989
always that first that some goes awry and they're

01:08:41.989 --> 01:08:44.250
going to be like, he just flatlined when the

01:08:44.250 --> 01:08:48.149
drone died. What happened? Well, it would seem

01:08:48.149 --> 01:08:52.529
that we have to cut it out the last 0 .5 milliseconds

01:08:52.529 --> 01:08:55.489
before that drone cuts off. So then the body

01:08:55.489 --> 01:08:57.949
doesn't realize that it's not supposed to cut

01:08:57.949 --> 01:09:08.210
off either. So, okay. Surveillance absolutely

01:09:08.210 --> 01:09:12.989
saves lives in disasters, but could this be an

01:09:12.989 --> 01:09:19.369
issue of privacy invasion on steroids? Right.

01:09:21.989 --> 01:09:25.529
Yeah, there is a privacy issue. I think it's

01:09:25.529 --> 01:09:28.560
actually a massive one. If you kind of just step

01:09:28.560 --> 01:09:33.800
back and really look at what it could be. Again,

01:09:33.899 --> 01:09:35.800
if you've got people just trained up to handle

01:09:35.800 --> 01:09:40.380
swarms, if all they're doing is flying around

01:09:40.380 --> 01:09:42.460
just collecting data and having it go to servers

01:09:42.460 --> 01:09:47.300
that AI is scanning, that's pretty 1984 there.

01:09:49.579 --> 01:09:52.220
It's Orwellian. Yeah, it is. But at the same

01:09:52.220 --> 01:09:56.420
time, would we also be looking at Johnny Mnemonic?

01:09:56.760 --> 01:10:00.579
I do. You remember that movie? Uh -huh. Keanu

01:10:00.579 --> 01:10:03.560
Reeves? Oh, yeah. Could also be something like

01:10:03.560 --> 01:10:08.859
that. Yeah, I think if the level of surveillance

01:10:08.859 --> 01:10:15.659
gets to that, then yes. Secrets and privacy will

01:10:15.659 --> 01:10:26.350
be a very boutique kind of thing. So, yeah. It's

01:10:26.350 --> 01:10:27.949
an older movie, but if you haven't seen Johnny

01:10:27.949 --> 01:10:33.130
Demonic, highly recommend the watch. Yeah, it

01:10:33.130 --> 01:10:35.149
was actually a good one. We should do that for

01:10:35.149 --> 01:10:41.970
midnight. Yes. Yes. I think so. So are these

01:10:41.970 --> 01:10:45.350
programs defensive genius or tools for endless

01:10:45.350 --> 01:10:50.170
conflict? Do they prevent more than they instigate?

01:10:50.670 --> 01:10:54.310
Or will they just always push people to come

01:10:54.310 --> 01:11:08.579
after the big guy? Thank you for noticing. The

01:11:08.579 --> 01:11:14.640
only drawback to drinking during the show is

01:11:14.640 --> 01:11:19.979
I have to pee. And again, if you're listening

01:11:19.979 --> 01:11:22.060
and you have answers that you want to chime in,

01:11:22.159 --> 01:11:24.039
hit us up on the socials because we would love

01:11:24.039 --> 01:11:27.960
to hear from you guys on this stuff. Absolutely.

01:11:29.550 --> 01:11:34.149
I want you to touch me in the brains. Touch my

01:11:34.149 --> 01:11:40.810
brain -ness. I think, personally, it's kind of

01:11:40.810 --> 01:11:42.729
a two -edged sword, and I feel like that's kind

01:11:42.729 --> 01:11:47.789
of a cop -out, but yes, speak softly and carry

01:11:47.789 --> 01:11:50.609
a big stick has always been kind of the motto

01:11:50.609 --> 01:11:55.109
of the American military, but when people see

01:11:55.109 --> 01:11:59.100
power, they are... Driven to confront power.

01:11:59.979 --> 01:12:07.399
At least some people. Are. So. I think it kind

01:12:07.399 --> 01:12:18.739
of works both ways. So. So having discussed all

01:12:18.739 --> 01:12:25.560
of that. The. Overall. Verdict conclusion. Is

01:12:25.560 --> 01:12:30.010
DARPA evil? We've got human guinea pigs, drone

01:12:30.010 --> 01:12:34.789
armies, ethics violations, all in the name of

01:12:34.789 --> 01:12:38.890
innovation. Half a billion dollars in brain tech,

01:12:39.069 --> 01:12:43.630
swarm demos of drones. Begs the question, where's

01:12:43.630 --> 01:12:47.310
the line? Is this evil empire or necessary evil?

01:12:53.149 --> 01:12:56.069
It depends on where we're going at to these days.

01:12:57.369 --> 01:13:01.550
Um, I know from the past history of what the

01:13:01.550 --> 01:13:04.750
U S has done, just like any country, you know,

01:13:04.750 --> 01:13:09.329
we were pretty effed up, but it was always the,

01:13:09.430 --> 01:13:13.630
the excuse was always for the better good, you

01:13:13.630 --> 01:13:19.949
know, just like in a one movie. So where it was

01:13:19.949 --> 01:13:22.350
like, you know, the community was killing everybody

01:13:22.350 --> 01:13:26.140
off for the better good. Sometimes, you know,

01:13:26.159 --> 01:13:27.720
you have to wonder, is the better good really

01:13:27.720 --> 01:13:33.079
the right way to go? But, I don't know. It just

01:13:33.079 --> 01:13:38.420
all depends. I think in the US's case, with DARPA

01:13:38.420 --> 01:13:41.239
and Skunk Works and all that stuff, you know,

01:13:41.239 --> 01:13:45.680
yeah, we've done some really effed up shit, but

01:13:45.680 --> 01:13:52.039
look where we are today. You know, people can

01:13:52.039 --> 01:13:55.510
still sit there and give their opinion. and not

01:13:55.510 --> 01:13:57.909
be in total fear that the government's going

01:13:57.909 --> 01:14:01.430
to come in and slap them down. People are taking

01:14:01.430 --> 01:14:05.550
advantage of smartphones and high -speed internet.

01:14:07.850 --> 01:14:10.850
I've got a brand -new vehicle that has its own

01:14:10.850 --> 01:14:13.930
Wi -Fi connection and is able to drive itself,

01:14:14.090 --> 01:14:17.189
for Christ's sake, which blows my mind. That's

01:14:17.189 --> 01:14:19.029
going to be something I'm going to have a very

01:14:19.029 --> 01:14:23.710
hard time getting used to, if ever. oh i still

01:14:23.710 --> 01:14:26.109
have a hard time getting used to it and i and

01:14:26.109 --> 01:14:29.369
i you have to pay like in my vehicle you have

01:14:29.369 --> 01:14:31.710
to pay attention to the road it will not let

01:14:31.710 --> 01:14:35.109
you look away otherwise it shuts itself off which

01:14:35.109 --> 01:14:38.170
is fine but it's still the fact that we're there

01:14:38.170 --> 01:14:42.069
as a society where this is happening i have seen

01:14:42.069 --> 01:14:46.550
the videos where old boy is getting a lap ride

01:14:46.550 --> 01:14:52.640
while driving down the highway in his tesla Yeah,

01:14:52.739 --> 01:14:55.199
no, those people are idiots and deserve whatever

01:14:55.199 --> 01:14:58.220
is coming their way. A pair of boobies in his

01:14:58.220 --> 01:15:00.319
face is coming his way because the car just keeps

01:15:00.319 --> 01:15:05.779
on driving. Oh, yeah, but when they decide to

01:15:05.779 --> 01:15:08.270
hit that brick wall, it's... 80 miles an hour

01:15:08.270 --> 01:15:10.569
those boobies are definitely coming in your face

01:15:10.569 --> 01:15:13.689
and then going past your face past your seat

01:15:13.689 --> 01:15:17.970
and anything behind you so glory glory it's a

01:15:17.970 --> 01:15:23.550
hell of a way to die well yeah at least you're

01:15:23.550 --> 01:15:31.029
going to valhalla oh there's that at least they're

01:15:31.029 --> 01:15:33.270
gonna like so how'd you die i was going 80 miles

01:15:33.270 --> 01:15:38.510
an hour with boobies Congratulations. That's

01:15:38.510 --> 01:15:42.229
what I'm talking about. You're one of us. Now

01:15:42.229 --> 01:15:45.789
get out there. We fight for eternity. Wait, what?

01:15:46.010 --> 01:15:51.369
This is not the Valhalla I signed up for. Oh

01:15:51.369 --> 01:15:59.729
no! From a potentially evil stance and point

01:15:59.729 --> 01:16:04.750
of view on DARPA, I feel... They're going to

01:16:04.750 --> 01:16:08.329
be involved in the death of all humanity. And

01:16:08.329 --> 01:16:10.710
there's probably not much we can do at all to

01:16:10.710 --> 01:16:17.069
stop them. Probably not. They've done some good.

01:16:17.210 --> 01:16:21.550
They've done some bad. We have comfortable lives

01:16:21.550 --> 01:16:23.909
because of some of the shit they've done. We

01:16:23.909 --> 01:16:27.909
can have this show because of it. Oh, yeah. But

01:16:27.909 --> 01:16:30.829
at the end of the day, it may or may not be worth

01:16:30.829 --> 01:16:38.930
it. That's up for everyone else to decide. Okay.

01:16:39.390 --> 01:16:42.250
I hate to really do this. That's fine. I can

01:16:42.250 --> 01:16:45.029
sign off or do the ending if you need. All right.

01:16:45.250 --> 01:16:49.109
So while Gibbles goes and taps a kidney, I would

01:16:49.109 --> 01:16:52.210
like to say thank you, everyone, for being a

01:16:52.210 --> 01:16:56.430
part of the show. We are still running the partnership

01:16:56.430 --> 01:16:59.720
with Dubby. uh consume 10 if you want to try

01:16:59.720 --> 01:17:02.100
it and get 10 off that that's still going strong

01:17:02.100 --> 01:17:05.979
um like i said earlier we are going to take two

01:17:05.979 --> 01:17:07.979
weeks off to hang out with our families enjoy

01:17:07.979 --> 01:17:13.039
the holidays so uh we will be back uh on january

01:17:13.039 --> 01:17:18.640
4th with our next show so with the new year we

01:17:18.640 --> 01:17:22.680
will still be pushing for the live show uh towards

01:17:22.680 --> 01:17:26.729
the end of the summer and uh some other Great

01:17:26.729 --> 01:17:29.029
content that we've got lined up for everything.

01:17:29.810 --> 01:17:33.510
I hope everybody has a safe and happy Christmas

01:17:33.510 --> 01:17:37.609
and a safe and happy new year. Please don't drink

01:17:37.609 --> 01:17:40.949
and drive. Uber exists. Please use it. Make good

01:17:40.949 --> 01:17:45.970
decisions. And as I tell my kids, do not, if

01:17:45.970 --> 01:17:48.989
you're going to go out and have fun, do not add

01:17:48.989 --> 01:17:51.729
to or subtract from the population. Do not get

01:17:51.729 --> 01:17:53.710
arrested and go to jail. And if you do go to

01:17:53.710 --> 01:17:57.109
jail, establish dominance quickly. We love you,

01:17:57.130 --> 01:17:58.590
and we'll see you all next time.