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keep your stomach steady. and step around the

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smoldering debris, because once we start poking

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around at the wreckage, things tend to ooze.

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I'm your host, Pip, here with my co -hosts, Gibbles

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and Gibbs. Hi. Hi. All I can think of now, for

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some reason, it's a shirt that says, Stand back,

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I tend to ooze. I don't know why, but just when

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you said that last thing. Oh, yeah, stand back,

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I tend to ooze. Stand back, I leak. I'm good

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with it. We should put that up on our merch store

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when we launch that. Oh, my God. Oh, I got to

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start working on that. That's a sign. Never mind.

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We'll get there. Yes. So welcome once again to

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the Now We Consume podcast. I want to take a

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quick second to thank everybody for last week's

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show. We did push that via some ads. And welcome

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to all the new listeners, all the new followers.

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We literally can't do this without you guys.

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I mean, we could, it just would be less worth

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it. Be very lonely. Yes. Like my, like my nights.

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I wish I looked like my gaming. Yes. But, uh,

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I, I do want to take a second and remind people

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did mention that last week and I will put a link

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in the show notes. Or the show description tonight.

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So you guys can find out where to go to get yourself

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It should. I think they had some shipping issues.

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But yeah, because I had ordered some more. I

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still don't have it. So they've got something

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going on with that. Yes. I love it. I didn't

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want to like it as much as I do. Damn it. But

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I'm I guess it fully has replaced my rain habit.

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That's wild. Yeah. I was a rain a day. So, but

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yeah, consume 10 is our, is our code. You get,

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get a little bit of a kickback for that, but

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it does help the show. Cause everything we get,

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we're putting right back into making the show

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better. So can we do a shirt that says a W a

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day keeps the rain away? Awesome. I like that.

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I don't see why we couldn't. So. Moving on from

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that, we're going to dig into the episode this

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evening. Real quick, I do want to give a shout

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out. We'll go ahead and put the link up too.

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If you're watching on the video, the hoodie I'm

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wearing tonight came from a very good friend

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of mine's shop. And we'll have the link to that

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shop in the show description as well. So we'll

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push that for him. Yeah, check out below. Yes.

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All hail the TISM hoodie. The hoodie is a raccoon

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wizard. The hoodie says, Twas the TISM, my lord.

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So it's quite comfortable. And I've gotten a

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lot of compliments on the hoodie, actually. So

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it's great. But yeah, so tonight's episode, we've

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seen a lot of fun shit going on in the world.

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The president has been touching tips with some

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vessels in other countries. Taking out some drug

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boats and going back for war crimes to make sure

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there are no survivors. So Gibbs brought this

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one up tonight, so I'll let him take the front

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chair on this one. Yeah, absolutely. This is

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something that I know we've been steering away

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from politics a little bit. This one's kind of

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more of a talk on foreign policy and kind of

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a discussion with there. But basically, we're

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starting a conversation recent months based with

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the U .S. You can either say Coast Guard, you

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could say military, whatever you want to call

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it. Basically, it's from the executive branch

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have been destroying boats, international waters.

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I'm using the words destroying boats because

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really technically the target has been the boats

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that are transporting either drugs, illegal substances

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or things rather than the people as per the paperwork.

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But we'll go over that in a little bit. They're

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just collateral. Effectively, yes, but that's

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part of the wider discussion. But questions have

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been mounting over the legality for a wave of

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U .S. strikes on alleged drug boats in the Caribbean

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Sea. They've been killed. There's been roughly

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80 people that have been killed by this, which

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is part of why this is becoming really big international

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news. Because normally, yes, don't get me wrong,

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the U .S. military is very good at killing innocent

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people. We are exceedingly good at that. Yeah.

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Especially under the guise of it being legal

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when sometimes it's not, or very much in this

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case, a gray area. But this is something I don't

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want to say out of the normal, but I think it's

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because we're doing so much less abroad that

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when this is the only thing we're doing that's

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in the mainstream media, people tend to focus

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on it. Especially, let's be honest, it's the

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holidays. It's such a slow news cycle that, of

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course, they're going to really focus on this.

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If we were in the middle of a big election season,

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this wouldn't have even made the lower chyron

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at a news station. So something to consider.

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I don't know. I think it would have only because.

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It's showing that such and such doesn't value

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human life, maybe. Yeah, but the only problem

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with that is the Democrats couldn't use it because

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you have Obama that was doing the same thing

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when he was in. They don't want to talk about

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that, though. I know. I'm just saying. This is

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part of the wide -ranging discussion I wanted

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to have. I definitely want to hear from people

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in the comments as well because this is one of

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those things that we've been doing this for.

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honestly really since world war ii since post

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-world war ii but really in the last 20 25 years

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really once we had drones that could effectively

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operate really around the mid to late 2000 like

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2005 to 8 even 10 that's we started seeing massive

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drone strikes and honestly this is one of those

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things that obama was kind of known for a drone

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strike a day dude it is scary How many people

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were killed by Obama drone strikes? And don't

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get me wrong, Trump did the same thing, but even

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Bush did a little bit, just like Biden. But part

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of the discussion I wanted to ask was, do we,

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as a country, have a right to destroy objects,

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whether it be boats or people, into international

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waters? Now, let me paint the context here. These

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targets have all been related. to either cartels

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or international drug smuggling. And almost all

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those targets have been listed with Trend de

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Aragua, which is listed as a terrorist organization.

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That's the framing I want to put around this.

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Because if it wasn't this, then I think it would

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be a different argument. So my question to you

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two is, do you think we have the right to destroy

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those boats in international waters that are

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outside our jurisdiction? Do you want to take

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it first? Well, I will say since we haven't ratified

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anything when it comes to the law of the sea

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and stuff like that We're not Essentially, we're

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not holding ourselves to the same standards like

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other countries want to be so I mean we can kind

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of Just like anyone else on the plan do whatever

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the hell we want But from what I understood that

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usually anytime like crime that's committed on

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international waters Or any kind of action, be

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it legal or not, usually it falls under the jurisdiction

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of whoever owns that boat. So if it's coming

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out of Venezuela, it's up to Venezuela to go,

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hey, you know, you shouldn't do that. They're

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not US citizens. I would like to say that if

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we have any kind of confirmation of where the

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boat may be going. And if we have confirmation

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of the cargo, especially with things like known

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drugs or something of that order, drugs, weapons,

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whatever, then I think it's in the purview of

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self -preservation and best interest of the public

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at large to prevent that cargo from reaching

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the shores of the U .S., whatever intel they

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may have. As to where that cargo is going. Once

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they have confirmed that it is drugs. And or

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weapons. I think yes they do have the. I don't

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want to say obligation. But maybe authority.

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To prevent. That cargo from reaching any shores.

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Unless it's like military aid. That's being used

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in a conflict. That's. You know preventing some

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kind of genocide. Or something like that. Because,

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I mean, yeah, you could use drugs as chemical

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warfare, but, I mean, that's even outlawed by

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the Geneva checklist. But still, the methodology

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of taking out the boats as they're getting underway

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and whatnot, if they want to do it in a way that

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gives the people on board a chance of survival,

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then maybe if they want to focus more on just

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disabling the boats. And maybe trying to focus

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less on the actual killing of the people on board?

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Okay, maybe. But you don't always have that option.

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Depending on the ship that's doing the engagement,

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you may or may not have the ability to engage

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in a manner that prevents a return fire of some

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kind and puts your people in harm's way. So when

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you're... Taking on that kind of an operation,

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you've got to be ready to just incur the most

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amount of wrath that ensures the least amount

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of damage or collateral damage to everybody involved.

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Sometimes that means people just die. Because

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you answer what my follow up question was going

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to be. Do we have an obligation basically to

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use nonlethal force? And I agree with your assessment

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there, where if it's possible, sure. But if you're

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going to be risking your people. It's not worth

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it for somebody that if you have clear evidence

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or clear intel information that this is someone

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that's doing something very illegal or very harmful.

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And I think as warfare weaponry technology improves

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over the next probably 10 to 15 years, maybe

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nonlethal becomes more of an option. Sonic weapons,

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drones that can incapacitate even taser type

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drones. Something along those lines. Yeah, go

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ahead. Don't decommission the A -10. Just put

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a big LRAD on it. Oh, God. Just, just, you know,

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you know, for those that don't know what an LRAD

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is, you're going to want to Google that one.

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But yes, I say we don't retire the A -10. We

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use it purely for turning around boats. International

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waters are on our shoreline. Just hit him with

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the good old burp. Yep. Just the boats now, so

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I don't know why. You could sit there and use

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them to deploy various entanglement options.

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Nets, bolos, and whatnot. We do that a lot with

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the submarine ones, whatever the semi -submersible

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ones that the cartels use a lot. Yeah. But you

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know what? You've got magnets. I don't know if

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they make them out of metal or non -magnetic

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stuff, but you've got to give these guys some

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credit for ingenuity. Oh, yeah. And some brass

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balls, just so you can pull that off. Oh, yeah.

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Imagine being so determined to smuggle drugs

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that you get a bunch of old, massive air compressor

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oil tanks, welding them up, sticking a motor

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in it. Be like, bitches, we got a sub. It's a

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sub. Just a level of optimism. I'm not trying

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to glaze the cartels, but that is some optimistic

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shit to do that and be like, fuck it, we're setting

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it, boys. No way. No fucking way. We're doing

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it. But the reason why I wanted to bring up this

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discussion is there's a huge controversy right

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now happening in the States here about whether

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these actions are legal. And I kind of wanted

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to go through with you guys kind of line by line,

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have a few discussions here and see what's the

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kind of consensus that we come up with, with

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this whole thing. Definitely from what I can

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see, at least my opinion on that specific point,

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we're kind of in a bit of a gray area because

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technically under certain conventions, it would

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be considered illegal, but they are identified

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as being on a list of military targets. So there

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is kind of a way to get around that where we

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are allowed to do these strikes on things that

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are considered military targets. And the executive

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branch does have sole authority over military

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targets. I know that that's one of the reasons,

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one of the things that's been a, I guess, a bit

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of a controversial point to say, well, this wasn't

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approved by Congress. Well, it doesn't have to

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be for anyone that says, well, these strikes

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aren't approved by the idea. Well. If you look

00:14:26.789 --> 00:14:28.490
at it from both sides, number one, executive

00:14:28.490 --> 00:14:30.809
branch has sole authority over immigration, whether

00:14:30.809 --> 00:14:32.789
it be legal or illegal. And number two, they

00:14:32.789 --> 00:14:35.990
have sole authority over the military. So either

00:14:35.990 --> 00:14:39.470
way, Trump kind of has them covered on that one.

00:14:39.629 --> 00:14:43.009
Plus, the president has limited authority for

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a certain amount of time to carry out military

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actions without congressional approval. Yes.

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So it's like any president or something like

00:14:51.070 --> 00:14:55.389
that. Yeah. Yeah. Any president can. enact military

00:14:55.389 --> 00:14:57.190
action for up to 30 days before they have to

00:14:57.190 --> 00:14:59.210
see congressional authority to extend it. Oh,

00:14:59.269 --> 00:15:02.110
it's 30 days. Okay. That's when I was growing

00:15:02.110 --> 00:15:07.070
up. I heard 90. It might be 90. There's been

00:15:07.070 --> 00:15:08.649
so much stuff I can't remember off the top of

00:15:08.649 --> 00:15:11.370
my head. I thought it was 90 was like the hard

00:15:11.370 --> 00:15:15.850
limit. Yeah. Because that was basically a rule

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that was set back a long ass time ago before

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we had the internet or instant communication.

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It used to be like I thought it was 90 or something.

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I think you're right. But anyways, my question

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I want to ask you two is do we have the right

00:15:29.149 --> 00:15:35.730
to go straight to lethal force with this if we

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don't have 100 % confirmation? If we have an

00:15:40.370 --> 00:15:42.769
idea that maybe they're transporters, that maybe

00:15:42.769 --> 00:15:45.649
they might. What is the threshold for information

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that we have to have in order to engage these

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kind of boats or merchant vessels? I would think

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if there's been confirmations of previous confirmations

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of the place, the type of boat, the area that

00:16:03.649 --> 00:16:06.649
people are coming from, if they're confirmed

00:16:06.649 --> 00:16:12.230
to be of the same group, like the cartel or whatever

00:16:12.230 --> 00:16:15.090
is putting the people there onto the ships and

00:16:15.090 --> 00:16:19.059
whatnot, or boats rather. then I think we can

00:16:19.059 --> 00:16:23.320
forego a certain amount of due process. But there

00:16:23.320 --> 00:16:26.039
really should be some sort of confirmation of

00:16:26.039 --> 00:16:29.200
cargo before you just launch straight into it.

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The last thing you'd want is to find out that,

00:16:32.679 --> 00:16:34.200
oh, we thought it was a drug boat. It turned

00:16:34.200 --> 00:16:36.740
out to be human aid or medical aid or something.

00:16:37.659 --> 00:16:44.389
It's a truck full of babies. Oh, the jokes I

00:16:44.389 --> 00:16:45.870
could make, but I can't make them on Twitch.

00:16:45.909 --> 00:16:49.750
Anyways. So the other the other question I want

00:16:49.750 --> 00:16:52.529
to have, and this is something that I think I

00:16:52.529 --> 00:16:56.610
haven't heard anyone mention. Are we concerned

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that the same excuses and same things can happen

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to American citizens traveling abroad or going

00:17:02.809 --> 00:17:06.269
other places where if we're noticing it's mostly

00:17:06.269 --> 00:17:10.390
the U .S. government going after. Obviously,

00:17:10.430 --> 00:17:12.430
drug cartels coming from south of the border,

00:17:12.529 --> 00:17:15.650
places like Venezuela and things like that. I

00:17:15.650 --> 00:17:18.329
guess my question is, if it's legal for the U

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.S. to destroy these ships without a 100 % verification,

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are we worried about that happening to American

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citizens? Or even possibly some, maybe we might

00:17:33.289 --> 00:17:37.049
have CIA or FBI assets that are not fully disclosed.

00:17:37.869 --> 00:17:42.000
Yeah. Are we treading those waters? Yeah, we're

00:17:42.000 --> 00:17:44.200
always treading those waters because we don't

00:17:44.200 --> 00:17:46.140
know what's going on on a daily basis on the

00:17:46.140 --> 00:17:51.559
global stage. So you're always going to have

00:17:51.559 --> 00:17:55.200
that risk. That's why there's warning lists of

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what countries you can and can't go to, or not

00:17:57.920 --> 00:17:59.759
so much that you can't go to them, but it'd be

00:17:59.759 --> 00:18:04.839
advisable not to as an American citizen. So is

00:18:04.839 --> 00:18:08.779
there a risk? Oh, absolutely. Yeah, I'm with

00:18:08.779 --> 00:18:15.019
Gibbles on that. Okay. So, again, I think we're

00:18:15.019 --> 00:18:18.759
all in agreement with there. Here is one of the

00:18:18.759 --> 00:18:22.460
questions I want to propose to you two. And I

00:18:22.460 --> 00:18:24.099
kind of want to think about this one, which is

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for people that are traveling particularly, let's

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just say if you're traveling near China or Russia

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or Taiwan or civilian vessels or anything like

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that. Do you think something like this to where

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they're going to say, well, the U .S. has been

00:18:42.700 --> 00:18:46.759
able to blow up ships to them, they might say

00:18:46.759 --> 00:18:50.559
indiscriminately or whatever they deem. Will

00:18:50.559 --> 00:18:52.180
this be the case of something like World War

00:18:52.180 --> 00:18:53.900
I or World War II, like the sinking of Lusitania,

00:18:54.019 --> 00:18:54.960
where it would just be, hey, we're going to have

00:18:54.960 --> 00:18:57.539
an American ship somewhere out in the Pacific

00:18:57.539 --> 00:19:00.940
that's going to get hit. And some countries are

00:19:00.940 --> 00:19:02.519
going to claim, well, they were carrying drugs,

00:19:02.640 --> 00:19:05.069
they were doing this, doing that. And that escalates

00:19:05.069 --> 00:19:07.990
the situation in the Pacific. Do you think something

00:19:07.990 --> 00:19:11.730
like that's possible? Possible, yes. Probable,

00:19:11.829 --> 00:19:14.170
I don't know. It depends on the rest of the climate

00:19:14.170 --> 00:19:17.930
in the area. Yeah. Fair. There's always extraneous

00:19:17.930 --> 00:19:20.990
circumstances to it. Okay. But historically,

00:19:21.109 --> 00:19:24.970
if you have American boat with Americans on said

00:19:24.970 --> 00:19:27.150
boat and that something happens to that boat,

00:19:27.289 --> 00:19:31.390
historically, we overcompensate. Just a little

00:19:31.390 --> 00:19:34.049
bit. We're a little touchy with our boats. That's

00:19:34.049 --> 00:19:41.789
a sore subject with us. Fair. Today. Talking

00:19:41.789 --> 00:19:46.509
about touching our boats today is that day. Oh!

00:19:47.430 --> 00:19:50.230
Today is the day our boats got touched. Damn

00:19:50.230 --> 00:19:55.089
it. Oh, wow. Okay. I just looked down and saw

00:19:55.089 --> 00:19:59.859
that. Wow. Okay, so. Today is definitely the

00:19:59.859 --> 00:20:01.819
day. Don't touch our boats today. I know it's

00:20:01.819 --> 00:20:03.220
already over by the time you're seeing it, but

00:20:03.220 --> 00:20:07.160
no. Yeah. This is the official do not touch our

00:20:07.160 --> 00:20:11.319
boats day. Yeah. This is the official no touching

00:20:11.319 --> 00:20:13.940
the water. Stay out. Everyone else out of the

00:20:13.940 --> 00:20:16.279
pool. This is America's day in the pool. And

00:20:16.279 --> 00:20:18.799
historically, even before that, we were all anti

00:20:18.799 --> 00:20:21.400
don't touch our boats. I mean, look at how the

00:20:21.400 --> 00:20:23.819
Navy responded before it was really the Navy.

00:20:25.019 --> 00:20:26.940
And we went to the Middle East and destroyed

00:20:26.940 --> 00:20:32.049
all the pirates. Yeah. So before Congress could

00:20:32.049 --> 00:20:34.349
even be notified what we were doing, you know,

00:20:34.349 --> 00:20:37.230
we come back with all these boats and stuff and

00:20:37.230 --> 00:20:38.849
said, yeah, there is no more pirate problem.

00:20:40.690 --> 00:20:43.970
You know, let me sidetrack for just a second.

00:20:44.049 --> 00:20:48.490
I know piracy is still happening today. I feel

00:20:48.490 --> 00:20:51.029
like that is something people should pay to be

00:20:51.029 --> 00:20:54.630
able to go and do as anti -piracy stuff because

00:20:54.630 --> 00:20:58.759
there are or be paid better to do. Because there's

00:20:58.759 --> 00:21:00.779
a lot of stuff going on. There's a lot of people

00:21:00.779 --> 00:21:04.779
that would be very capable of being put up on

00:21:04.779 --> 00:21:10.119
boats and ships to repel pirates in international

00:21:10.119 --> 00:21:11.859
waters. And clearly there's a market for something

00:21:11.859 --> 00:21:13.920
like that when you have people that were paying

00:21:13.920 --> 00:21:17.700
to go human hunting in third world countries

00:21:17.700 --> 00:21:21.460
for crying out loud. Yeah. So I guess here's

00:21:21.460 --> 00:21:24.839
my other question. With the killing and destruction

00:21:24.839 --> 00:21:28.680
of these boats. from cartel members and terrorists

00:21:28.680 --> 00:21:31.539
do you think that's going to embolden some some

00:21:31.539 --> 00:21:34.099
companies to actually hire like armed guards

00:21:34.099 --> 00:21:36.380
and personnel and actually start defending their

00:21:36.380 --> 00:21:38.460
shit because the amount of times i see these

00:21:38.460 --> 00:21:40.559
boats they should go through national waters

00:21:40.559 --> 00:21:42.960
and all they have is a fucking hose and it's

00:21:42.960 --> 00:21:45.660
like really really you have a ship that's worth

00:21:45.660 --> 00:21:47.460
like a billion dollars you're gonna protect it

00:21:47.460 --> 00:21:50.059
with fucking water that that's not gonna work

00:21:50.059 --> 00:21:51.680
out that well buddy like yeah sure sometimes

00:21:51.680 --> 00:21:53.900
it works out they have like a dinghy you know

00:21:53.900 --> 00:21:57.079
what that leads to That leads to, look at me.

00:21:57.220 --> 00:21:59.319
I'm the captain now. That's what that leads to.

00:22:00.319 --> 00:22:04.000
Yeah. Was it Captain Phillips? Was that the name

00:22:04.000 --> 00:22:07.059
of that one? Yeah, Captain Phillips. Good. But

00:22:07.059 --> 00:22:09.180
I wonder if this is going to open up legally

00:22:09.180 --> 00:22:10.460
where a lot of companies are going to say, hey,

00:22:10.480 --> 00:22:13.559
if the U .S. is allowed to just drop a bomb,

00:22:13.759 --> 00:22:15.700
yeah, maybe we can have some guys with a few

00:22:15.700 --> 00:22:20.400
rifles, just saying. Mm -hmm. I feel like it

00:22:20.400 --> 00:22:22.900
would pay rather well, too. I feel like it'd

00:22:22.900 --> 00:22:26.410
be fun. You would have a lot of former military

00:22:26.410 --> 00:22:31.170
folks signing up hand over fist. Because A, they've

00:22:31.170 --> 00:22:33.630
already got the training. B, they could handle

00:22:33.630 --> 00:22:36.829
it. And C, it's not going to cause them any more

00:22:36.829 --> 00:22:40.170
PTSD because they've already got PTSD. This is

00:22:40.170 --> 00:22:42.630
going to be a way for them to vent. It's target

00:22:42.630 --> 00:22:47.049
practice. That's all that is. They're just shooting

00:22:47.049 --> 00:22:50.220
at boats. Yeah, just carry enough ammo. Yeah.

00:22:50.440 --> 00:22:53.319
Yeah. That's going to be the biggest. Oh, yeah.

00:22:53.480 --> 00:22:54.880
You're going to spend more money on ammo than

00:22:54.880 --> 00:22:57.519
you are salaries. Like at that point, but could

00:22:57.519 --> 00:22:58.859
be worth it. Or maybe that's why you just run

00:22:58.859 --> 00:23:02.460
all 22s and just sink their boat. You know, imagine

00:23:02.460 --> 00:23:05.180
that's the most cost efficient way. You just

00:23:05.180 --> 00:23:07.740
get like 22 mini guns. And you're just like,

00:23:07.880 --> 00:23:11.759
hey, you know. Sorry. The pea shooter from hell.

00:23:12.579 --> 00:23:16.680
Why spend $20 a round? Well, I could spend $20

00:23:16.680 --> 00:23:20.200
for a thousand rounds. actually how much would

00:23:20.200 --> 00:23:22.619
that be how much would that be for um about 40

00:23:22.619 --> 00:23:25.720
bucks give or take if i remember right yeah i

00:23:25.720 --> 00:23:29.180
haven't looked at 22 in a while just saying all

00:23:29.180 --> 00:23:31.240
it takes a couple of those to sink a dinghy you

00:23:31.240 --> 00:23:34.759
know or you mount a 25 millimeter machine gun

00:23:34.759 --> 00:23:42.160
and it takes about one round yeah i know that

00:23:42.160 --> 00:23:46.160
from experience it it wasn't a dinghy it was

00:23:46.160 --> 00:23:49.109
a speedboat but oh Well, that's a story for another

00:23:49.109 --> 00:23:50.210
day. Was it like a fragmentation round or was

00:23:50.210 --> 00:23:55.150
it just like a slug? Incendiary AP. Oh, nice.

00:23:56.750 --> 00:23:58.930
Ah, yes. They get to see what it's like to be

00:23:58.930 --> 00:24:00.710
in the depths of hell for 0 .3 seconds before

00:24:00.710 --> 00:24:06.170
they exploded. Oh, man. This is how you get to

00:24:06.170 --> 00:24:10.690
be well done in a casket. There's no casket at

00:24:10.690 --> 00:24:14.869
sea. Well, you know. Does the dinghy that gets

00:24:14.869 --> 00:24:16.789
wrapped around you as you're sinking to the bottom

00:24:16.789 --> 00:24:23.000
count? They're all shrapnel. Oh, oh, oh. Yeah.

00:24:23.200 --> 00:24:27.259
So, okay, just I had to engage a speedboat while

00:24:27.259 --> 00:24:29.960
I was in the military. The second round hit the

00:24:29.960 --> 00:24:33.519
front of it, and it kerbluied, and speedboats

00:24:33.519 --> 00:24:35.420
aren't supposed to kerbluie when rounds hit that

00:24:35.420 --> 00:24:38.660
part of the speedboat. Oh, there were things

00:24:38.660 --> 00:24:44.690
on board. Yes. Ah. Yeah. Well, there was. There

00:24:44.690 --> 00:24:47.109
was. Yes, there was. Along with the three guys

00:24:47.109 --> 00:24:51.349
that were on board. So the fish ate well that

00:24:51.349 --> 00:24:56.710
day. I bet they did. Wow. Yes. You know, he just

00:24:56.710 --> 00:25:00.329
became the quickest Uber Eats for the sharks.

00:25:01.309 --> 00:25:08.980
My God. And he still didn't get a tip. oh man

00:25:08.980 --> 00:25:11.740
yeah shark is like i'll give you a tip if you

00:25:11.740 --> 00:25:13.380
come in the water and i'll tell you about it

00:25:13.380 --> 00:25:19.660
yes i i i do miss running that 25 millimeter

00:25:19.660 --> 00:25:25.420
machine gun it was like uh 70 76 rounds a minute

00:25:25.420 --> 00:25:29.000
i want to say so i mean it wasn't it wasn't the

00:25:29.000 --> 00:25:34.599
well yeah but i mean It's all you need. It, it

00:25:34.599 --> 00:25:37.660
literally felt like an orgasm every time that

00:25:37.660 --> 00:25:41.259
thing fired. Oh my God. You're so tired after

00:25:41.259 --> 00:25:46.880
an eight hour shift. I would be too. Yeah. I

00:25:46.880 --> 00:25:50.059
still have some of the, I still have some of

00:25:50.059 --> 00:25:52.799
the casings from that, uh, from that event. And

00:25:52.799 --> 00:25:55.759
you never, or I'm kind of mad. I'm sorry. It

00:25:55.759 --> 00:25:57.259
never came up. You never even mentioned that.

00:25:57.579 --> 00:26:02.819
I'm sorry. A little salty. I'm sorry. Well, you

00:26:02.819 --> 00:26:04.680
are a Will Marble person, so you should be salty.

00:26:10.059 --> 00:26:16.779
Anyways. Yeah. So, I guess the other question

00:26:16.779 --> 00:26:18.079
I want, now we're going to go back to the original

00:26:18.079 --> 00:26:20.599
topic. The other question I want to ask you is,

00:26:20.720 --> 00:26:27.259
is by the fact of being labeled as part of Trend

00:26:27.259 --> 00:26:29.680
de Agua, or Aragua, however you say it, Trend

00:26:29.680 --> 00:26:32.680
de Aragua. Or really any other criminal organization?

00:26:32.839 --> 00:26:39.599
Is that in itself enough to justify being shot

00:26:39.599 --> 00:26:43.460
in the water? Or do you have to have proof of

00:26:43.460 --> 00:26:45.299
another illegal action or just being part of

00:26:45.299 --> 00:26:47.940
a terrorist organization or being an associate?

00:26:48.680 --> 00:26:57.720
Is that enough, do you think? Gibles, this is

00:26:57.720 --> 00:27:02.190
more your realm. Well, if we're talking about

00:27:02.190 --> 00:27:04.769
U .S. law, then you're still going to have intent.

00:27:06.329 --> 00:27:08.809
Because anytime you have the FBI arrest anybody,

00:27:09.150 --> 00:27:13.789
they always talk about what the intent was. I

00:27:13.789 --> 00:27:17.609
mean, but when it comes to national defense overseas,

00:27:17.869 --> 00:27:20.750
anything at the border and border of the United

00:27:20.750 --> 00:27:27.769
States on out. It really just. Like we've talked

00:27:27.769 --> 00:27:30.490
about before, it's what does the commander -in

00:27:30.490 --> 00:27:34.730
-chief have to say. And I found out it's 60 days

00:27:34.730 --> 00:27:37.809
with the 30 -day extension. Ah. Is what the president

00:27:37.809 --> 00:27:40.589
has. That might have been where I got the 30

00:27:40.589 --> 00:27:44.269
days from. Yeah. So, yeah, the president has

00:27:44.269 --> 00:27:47.190
60 days to say, okay, well, this is going on.

00:27:47.210 --> 00:27:49.549
I'm defending our country from it. Blah, blah,

00:27:49.549 --> 00:27:52.829
blah. After 60 days, he can ask for an extension.

00:27:54.029 --> 00:27:56.329
but they're only gonna give another 30 days before

00:27:56.329 --> 00:27:59.589
finally they have to rule okay is this a military

00:27:59.589 --> 00:28:02.029
action that we need to continue or is this something

00:28:02.029 --> 00:28:05.910
that we need to stop now so i i guess i'm here

00:28:05.910 --> 00:28:08.710
for you guys is it's conditional as well i'm

00:28:08.710 --> 00:28:10.450
here is once you get enough information so there's

00:28:10.450 --> 00:28:14.450
no steadfast 100 rule that 100 of the time yep

00:28:14.450 --> 00:28:17.369
destroy them all or never i'm not here yeah okay

00:28:17.369 --> 00:28:20.289
so you two are actually agreeing with i think

00:28:20.289 --> 00:28:23.230
what honestly most people that i have seen because

00:28:23.579 --> 00:28:25.119
Over the weekend, I've been keeping up with this

00:28:25.119 --> 00:28:27.380
story. I've been watching the news from all sides,

00:28:27.460 --> 00:28:29.980
trying to figure it out. I've heard some people

00:28:29.980 --> 00:28:32.599
say, and I think this kind of stupid say, ah,

00:28:32.700 --> 00:28:34.339
fuck them, just blow them all up, which is like,

00:28:34.380 --> 00:28:36.400
all right, chill. But I've heard some people

00:28:36.400 --> 00:28:39.119
say on the spectrum, that's like, well, no one

00:28:39.119 --> 00:28:42.059
deserves to die over that. It's like, well, at

00:28:42.059 --> 00:28:43.720
the same point, and not for nothing, if you're

00:28:43.720 --> 00:28:46.200
drug trafficking fentanyl into the country, I

00:28:46.200 --> 00:28:48.680
have zero sympathy for you if you sleep with

00:28:48.680 --> 00:28:51.829
the fishes. I think I would agree with you that

00:28:51.829 --> 00:28:53.309
at the end of the day, it's really information.

00:28:53.589 --> 00:28:55.650
It's really gathering enough information to really

00:28:55.650 --> 00:28:59.470
justify, hey, this is worth taking down. Not

00:28:59.470 --> 00:29:04.210
to also put out there, but the fact that if you're

00:29:04.210 --> 00:29:06.230
talking about the drug pusher that's right inside

00:29:06.230 --> 00:29:08.509
the city of the United States, like downtown

00:29:08.509 --> 00:29:12.029
Detroit, that's still different than this jackass

00:29:12.029 --> 00:29:14.690
that's coming off the coast of Venezuela or nowhere

00:29:14.690 --> 00:29:18.539
near the United States in that instance. You're

00:29:18.539 --> 00:29:21.059
also talking about two different scenarios completely.

00:29:21.220 --> 00:29:24.480
Like, okay, what happens outside the United States

00:29:24.480 --> 00:29:28.480
isn't always our jurisdiction. So, yeah, if we

00:29:28.480 --> 00:29:31.200
did something, sure, but it's still, as I said

00:29:31.200 --> 00:29:33.019
before, it's still going to constitute whether

00:29:33.019 --> 00:29:35.839
it's considered a crime and then who's the crime

00:29:35.839 --> 00:29:37.900
against. You know, you're going to have other

00:29:37.900 --> 00:29:40.359
countries that would have to get involved, let

00:29:40.359 --> 00:29:43.079
alone the country that currently right now is

00:29:43.079 --> 00:29:48.819
getting their drug boys taken out. So I think

00:29:48.819 --> 00:29:51.339
I would agree with you that it also does. People

00:29:51.339 --> 00:29:53.880
need to realize, too, that we don't as a country,

00:29:53.980 --> 00:29:56.220
because they're outside of our borders, we also

00:29:56.220 --> 00:29:59.160
don't owe them the same rights that they would

00:29:59.160 --> 00:30:03.160
do within our borders. That is a very defining

00:30:03.160 --> 00:30:05.019
factor that I think a lot of people, particularly

00:30:05.019 --> 00:30:08.240
a lot of the news media, are not fully understanding.

00:30:08.680 --> 00:30:10.220
Because a lot of the arguments I keep seeing

00:30:10.220 --> 00:30:12.059
is, well, no one deserves, you know, they should

00:30:12.059 --> 00:30:13.319
go to trial, they should go to this. And I'm

00:30:13.319 --> 00:30:16.710
like, go to trial. They're like. Out in the middle

00:30:16.710 --> 00:30:19.309
of the fucking Atlantic. Like, are they in the

00:30:19.309 --> 00:30:21.849
Caribbean? Like, there is no trial. What, the

00:30:21.849 --> 00:30:23.809
local courthouse by the fucking turtle that's

00:30:23.809 --> 00:30:25.890
swimming by? No, no, that's not how this fucking

00:30:25.890 --> 00:30:30.150
works. Absolutely not. That'd be like getting

00:30:30.150 --> 00:30:32.369
robbed in China and expecting to go to a, you

00:30:32.369 --> 00:30:35.190
know, courthouse in freaking downtown San Francisco.

00:30:35.730 --> 00:30:40.529
Yeah. No. It doesn't make sense. I have good

00:30:40.529 --> 00:30:44.309
news. Keep talking. Okay. Oh, you have... Oh,

00:30:44.329 --> 00:30:47.769
he has good news. The reason why I was being

00:30:47.769 --> 00:30:50.609
specific about this and asking this is because

00:30:50.609 --> 00:30:53.569
there are some rules called the LOAC or the laws

00:30:53.569 --> 00:30:57.730
of armed conflict. I think that's important because

00:30:57.730 --> 00:31:01.890
in a typical situation where like boots on the

00:31:01.890 --> 00:31:03.549
ground, you're in a military environment, stuff

00:31:03.549 --> 00:31:05.789
like that, or an engagement zone, there are different

00:31:05.789 --> 00:31:09.339
rules than maritime LOAC. which specifically

00:31:09.339 --> 00:31:11.779
would state, and I quote, enemy merchant vehicles

00:31:11.779 --> 00:31:14.000
are liable to attack. And since they're considered

00:31:14.000 --> 00:31:16.759
enemy combatants, because they're part of a terrorist

00:31:16.759 --> 00:31:20.799
organization, all these strikes are legal. In

00:31:20.799 --> 00:31:22.759
a way that they don't have to have oversight

00:31:22.759 --> 00:31:27.720
or approval from Congress. Would you both agree

00:31:27.720 --> 00:31:31.000
with that? Yeah, I mean, I would absolutely agree

00:31:31.000 --> 00:31:38.549
with it if they had ratified it. Exactly. so

00:31:38.549 --> 00:31:40.869
they actually took the time to ratify some of

00:31:40.869 --> 00:31:42.670
these freaking treaties and laws that they keep

00:31:42.670 --> 00:31:45.910
referencing i'd be all for it but they don't

00:31:45.910 --> 00:31:48.289
ratify the crap so they're like oh well we can't

00:31:48.289 --> 00:31:51.630
we have to abide by some crazy you know law of

00:31:51.630 --> 00:31:54.009
the sea or whatever no we don't because guess

00:31:54.009 --> 00:31:56.710
what we never ratified it yeah the president

00:31:56.710 --> 00:31:59.390
said yeah we should do this until again when

00:31:59.390 --> 00:32:01.230
everybody talks about how congress has rules

00:32:01.230 --> 00:32:04.559
to do this and that Until Congress and the Senate

00:32:04.559 --> 00:32:07.619
sign off on stuff, we're not obliged to deal

00:32:07.619 --> 00:32:11.440
with any of that. So essentially, it's like no

00:32:11.440 --> 00:32:13.519
holds barred. The U .S. can do what it wants

00:32:13.519 --> 00:32:17.720
until we put ourselves against that treaty. I

00:32:17.720 --> 00:32:19.000
was going to say, you didn't fall for the trap

00:32:19.000 --> 00:32:21.420
because I was purposely trying to set you up

00:32:21.420 --> 00:32:28.609
on that one. Yep, yep, pip. Oh, he's got it.

00:32:28.690 --> 00:32:31.849
This is the shell casing. It is quite girthy.

00:32:31.910 --> 00:32:36.210
Yes. This was the shell casing that took out

00:32:36.210 --> 00:32:39.970
that boat. Nice. That's a lot of powder. Yeah.

00:32:41.069 --> 00:32:44.609
25 millimeter. Christ. I'll have to just pull

00:32:44.609 --> 00:32:49.130
out my bag of googies next week. Yeah. So. Jesus.

00:32:51.349 --> 00:32:54.579
So, anybody that's watching. That is the shell

00:32:54.579 --> 00:32:56.940
casing I used to take out the speedboat. The

00:32:56.940 --> 00:33:02.079
bullet stuck out probably about like that. It's

00:33:02.079 --> 00:33:03.880
supposed to be a little bit more than that. It's

00:33:03.880 --> 00:33:07.000
an A -10 round, right? No. No. A -10 is 30 mil.

00:33:07.319 --> 00:33:10.380
Yeah. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm looking at. You're right.

00:33:10.460 --> 00:33:14.960
Sorry. I should have known that. In the galley.

00:33:15.079 --> 00:33:22.039
That thing's glorious. Nice memories. Yep. How

00:33:22.039 --> 00:33:26.579
many yards did you shoot him out at? You have

00:33:26.579 --> 00:33:30.759
350, I think. Can we get a picture of that round

00:33:30.759 --> 00:33:33.460
with the rifle and just say Kurt Cobain POV,

00:33:33.539 --> 00:33:42.420
300 yards. Oh, shit. Yeah, I'm sorry to sidetrack.

00:33:42.460 --> 00:33:46.460
No, that's cool. I'm glad you have that. Yeah.

00:33:46.809 --> 00:33:54.829
I also have a belt, a linkage set from the 20

00:33:54.829 --> 00:33:59.369
mil that I got to fire. I got to stand outside

00:33:59.369 --> 00:34:02.970
when they were test firing it, probably six or

00:34:02.970 --> 00:34:05.109
eight feet away. I had triple hearing protection.

00:34:05.670 --> 00:34:10.210
That thing rattled every bone in my body. Good

00:34:10.210 --> 00:34:15.369
old C -Wiz. Outside of M61A1, pulling the trigger.

00:34:17.210 --> 00:34:19.929
It's done. What do you mean it's done? It's where

00:34:19.929 --> 00:34:25.610
we fired everything. Fuck. Yes. Okay. So I'm

00:34:25.610 --> 00:34:27.469
sorry to sidetrack. Let's get back on topic.

00:34:27.670 --> 00:34:30.469
No, it's okay. So the reason why I wanted to

00:34:30.469 --> 00:34:33.070
bring up LOAC is because you're 100 % right,

00:34:33.170 --> 00:34:35.690
Gibbles. This is something I have heard brought

00:34:35.690 --> 00:34:41.030
up by literally every single news organization

00:34:41.030 --> 00:34:45.289
because this comes up in a Google search if you

00:34:45.289 --> 00:34:48.579
look it up. Why? Oh, because there was a BBC

00:34:48.579 --> 00:34:53.300
article about two months ago, maybe a little

00:34:53.300 --> 00:34:54.980
bit less than that, maybe like a month and a

00:34:54.980 --> 00:34:59.539
half, that mentioned LOAC. And when I searched

00:34:59.539 --> 00:35:03.659
about these and legality, that came up at least

00:35:03.659 --> 00:35:07.820
90 % of the time. So what I want to bring up

00:35:07.820 --> 00:35:09.920
here is when everybody tells you about that,

00:35:10.059 --> 00:35:14.119
that works for Europe, sure, and whatever countries

00:35:14.119 --> 00:35:16.760
that sign up. I don't know all of them. But that

00:35:16.760 --> 00:35:19.440
don't include us. We have our own laws because

00:35:19.440 --> 00:35:22.099
we are not forced to sign that crap. Now, great.

00:35:22.159 --> 00:35:25.119
I'm not saying it's bad because low act does

00:35:25.119 --> 00:35:27.500
have some stuff in it that I do think makes sense.

00:35:27.539 --> 00:35:29.519
But we already have some of that stuff internally

00:35:29.519 --> 00:35:34.780
for rules of engagement. So. No harm, no foul.

00:35:35.280 --> 00:35:36.920
But I just want to bring that up because, quite

00:35:36.920 --> 00:35:38.599
frankly, I've seen people flame each other online

00:35:38.599 --> 00:35:40.260
and I think it's stupid because they're talking

00:35:40.260 --> 00:35:43.360
out of their ass now because they have no idea.

00:35:43.400 --> 00:35:45.789
They didn't take the time to read. No, well,

00:35:45.829 --> 00:35:48.409
they just don't most don't, you know, they read

00:35:48.409 --> 00:35:51.710
the headline. That's true. You know, that's trust

00:35:51.710 --> 00:35:53.230
me. It takes a while to read all these articles,

00:35:53.329 --> 00:35:55.929
which I get. I get not everybody has the time,

00:35:56.010 --> 00:35:57.809
but that's why you go with independent journalists

00:35:57.809 --> 00:36:01.929
because some of them are really good. But what

00:36:01.929 --> 00:36:06.469
I also want to talk about here. And this was

00:36:06.469 --> 00:36:11.929
where it should. Yes. Is this is not the first

00:36:11.929 --> 00:36:16.099
and this is not the last time. that the u .s

00:36:16.099 --> 00:36:19.860
military the u .s government has been deleting

00:36:19.860 --> 00:36:23.679
people outside of our borders and what i want

00:36:23.679 --> 00:36:27.480
to ask the two of you it is quite simply do you

00:36:27.480 --> 00:36:30.059
think this is a this is something we should use

00:36:30.059 --> 00:36:33.659
to kind of springboard a discussion on what the

00:36:33.659 --> 00:36:35.980
hell has the u .s been doing in terms of foreign

00:36:35.980 --> 00:36:39.460
affairs really since post -world war ii where

00:36:40.069 --> 00:36:43.590
Where does our authority start and stop and end?

00:36:43.769 --> 00:36:45.429
Have we been abusing it? Have we been going too

00:36:45.429 --> 00:36:48.510
far? Have we not been going far enough? Because

00:36:48.510 --> 00:36:51.650
what a lot of the rest of the world is seeing,

00:36:51.710 --> 00:36:53.889
because I spent a lot of time reading some articles

00:36:53.889 --> 00:36:57.010
from Europe, even some from Australia. I had

00:36:57.010 --> 00:37:00.170
one translated from frigging Taiwan, which I

00:37:00.170 --> 00:37:02.289
got to be honest with you, I feel like it gave

00:37:02.289 --> 00:37:04.190
me brain damage because it wasn't very good translated.

00:37:04.610 --> 00:37:07.949
But what every other country is saying is that

00:37:07.949 --> 00:37:11.340
we're basically bullying. Yeah. And I want to

00:37:11.340 --> 00:37:13.900
hear your guys' opinion on this. I think, yes,

00:37:13.960 --> 00:37:16.800
we probably are overstepping because we very

00:37:16.800 --> 00:37:19.420
much have the mindset of we're going to do this

00:37:19.420 --> 00:37:24.199
until someone shows us that we can't. Yeah. There's

00:37:24.199 --> 00:37:27.719
nobody that's going to tell us otherwise. Period.

00:37:29.880 --> 00:37:34.559
Fair. This is what we feel has to be done. So

00:37:34.559 --> 00:37:37.719
we're going to do it. And until somebody else

00:37:37.719 --> 00:37:41.420
shows up to say, no, you're not, well, yes, we

00:37:41.420 --> 00:37:46.119
are. So do you think then maybe Trump should

00:37:46.119 --> 00:37:48.320
also be telling these other countries, hey, you

00:37:48.320 --> 00:37:50.119
need to police your own fucking borders? Like,

00:37:50.159 --> 00:37:52.300
you guys got to get your shit in order. Yeah,

00:37:52.400 --> 00:37:54.619
absolutely. Well, that's what he did during his

00:37:54.619 --> 00:37:57.480
first term, was telling all the European countries,

00:37:57.579 --> 00:37:59.980
guess what? You need to be paying for your own

00:37:59.980 --> 00:38:02.500
defense. We shouldn't be footing the entire bill,

00:38:02.619 --> 00:38:04.599
and then everybody got all busy with him. And

00:38:04.599 --> 00:38:07.079
now look at Ukraine all these years later. Even

00:38:07.079 --> 00:38:08.519
though everybody will try to claim, oh, it's

00:38:08.519 --> 00:38:15.000
Trump's fault. Yeah, no. It's one of those things

00:38:15.000 --> 00:38:20.639
where I know historically we have had a problem

00:38:20.639 --> 00:38:24.300
with our foreign policy going overboard in other

00:38:24.300 --> 00:38:27.460
countries. But I feel like in this case, especially

00:38:27.460 --> 00:38:28.760
when it comes to international waters, where

00:38:28.760 --> 00:38:30.719
it's clear so many countries don't give a fuck.

00:38:31.449 --> 00:38:34.010
There are so many countries that have zero interest

00:38:34.010 --> 00:38:37.909
in doing any sort of policing internationally.

00:38:39.349 --> 00:38:41.130
Do you guys think there's any better solution

00:38:41.130 --> 00:38:43.489
that maybe at some point we can move away from

00:38:43.489 --> 00:38:44.989
America being the world police? Do you think

00:38:44.989 --> 00:38:46.929
there's a solution there or a better way of going

00:38:46.929 --> 00:38:49.590
about it? Yes. Or are we just kind of stuck with

00:38:49.590 --> 00:38:54.710
it? I think once we get better AI and robots,

00:38:55.070 --> 00:38:57.489
yes, we can stop being world police. We'll just

00:38:57.489 --> 00:39:00.349
deploy the world police for us. So you're like

00:39:00.349 --> 00:39:04.610
Iron Man 3. Yes. Or Ultron. You're basically...

00:39:04.610 --> 00:39:09.969
Ultron philosophy, yes. Or the Eternals. No,

00:39:10.030 --> 00:39:11.989
because the Eternals sucked. We'll do Ultron.

00:39:12.010 --> 00:39:18.670
Ultron was better. So you would support an Ultron

00:39:18.670 --> 00:39:29.320
initiative? I think to an extent. I just don't

00:39:29.320 --> 00:39:32.880
know that it could be done in a manner that would

00:39:32.880 --> 00:39:38.739
allow, you know, enough oversight. And you also

00:39:38.739 --> 00:39:42.320
risk, of course, the hacking aspect and having

00:39:42.320 --> 00:39:45.400
control taken away and turned against us. But

00:39:45.400 --> 00:39:48.960
I have, I have a question for you then. Okay.

00:39:49.739 --> 00:39:52.300
Instead of, well, you could do an Ultron type

00:39:52.300 --> 00:39:56.480
thing, but you just basically use security like

00:39:56.480 --> 00:39:59.719
surveillance drones. And you essentially find

00:39:59.719 --> 00:40:03.280
people to where when they land in another country,

00:40:03.440 --> 00:40:06.039
all of a sudden, all their information is there.

00:40:06.099 --> 00:40:08.139
Everything's uploaded. And they're like, hey,

00:40:08.340 --> 00:40:10.179
you were traveling illegally with this shit.

00:40:10.239 --> 00:40:13.699
We're not going to kill you. But you and me carry

00:40:13.699 --> 00:40:17.320
a million dollars. So anything that you have

00:40:17.320 --> 00:40:19.619
in there, you're now seized. It's forfeited.

00:40:19.940 --> 00:40:22.460
And we're sending you back if you do it again.

00:40:24.480 --> 00:40:28.150
The second time is not going to be so nice. My

00:40:28.150 --> 00:40:30.289
question to you is, do you think there'll be

00:40:30.289 --> 00:40:33.889
a way of doing it where either number one, people

00:40:33.889 --> 00:40:37.469
pay some sort of penalty for trying that stuff?

00:40:37.530 --> 00:40:41.250
Or do you go the other route and say, screw it,

00:40:41.289 --> 00:40:43.429
arm those drones with guns and then be like,

00:40:43.449 --> 00:40:47.949
you crossed the line. So I don't think you arm

00:40:47.949 --> 00:40:52.989
them with guns. I think you arm them with methods

00:40:52.989 --> 00:40:59.550
of. that are exceedingly painful. Because pain,

00:40:59.829 --> 00:41:04.969
when applied properly, is a very effective way

00:41:04.969 --> 00:41:08.369
to deter things. So large speakers playing Taylor

00:41:08.369 --> 00:41:12.510
Swift music, that'll do it. And Baby Shark. Oh,

00:41:12.670 --> 00:41:14.809
fuck you. No, no, that's a Geneva Convention.

00:41:15.329 --> 00:41:17.630
No, no, no. You've been doing the checklist.

00:41:18.130 --> 00:41:21.449
No. That hasn't been applied to a checklist yet.

00:41:21.469 --> 00:41:24.360
We're good. Yet. Maple syrup people haven't gotten

00:41:24.360 --> 00:41:27.320
their hands on it. Maple syrup people. Oh, my

00:41:27.320 --> 00:41:30.179
God. At least he didn't say the other phrase

00:41:30.179 --> 00:41:35.539
from our Discord. Yeah. Jesus. I've been told

00:41:35.539 --> 00:41:39.539
to behave myself a little more. Yes. You're doing

00:41:39.539 --> 00:41:46.780
good. Good gibbles. Good gibbles. Yay. Oh, man.

00:41:47.260 --> 00:41:49.440
So I guess that's what I was wondering with the

00:41:49.440 --> 00:41:52.909
AI Ultron thing, though. I do wonder. With the

00:41:52.909 --> 00:41:54.929
policing internationally is that could be something

00:41:54.929 --> 00:41:57.530
to where maybe NATO or UN is gonna come together

00:41:57.530 --> 00:42:00.469
at some point be like look Every country outside

00:42:00.469 --> 00:42:02.530
of like a hundred miles outside of their physical

00:42:02.530 --> 00:42:05.309
borders where it becomes internet was a 250 is

00:42:05.309 --> 00:42:09.610
a 250 years at 100 Depends on who you ask some

00:42:09.610 --> 00:42:12.250
people say it's 12 miles some people say 200

00:42:12.250 --> 00:42:15.590
miles. Well, whatever it is all do a standardized

00:42:15.590 --> 00:42:18.519
like 100 kilometers, 100 miles, whatever the

00:42:18.519 --> 00:42:20.619
fucking unit they want to use. Just be like,

00:42:20.699 --> 00:42:22.719
anything outside that that's international, that's

00:42:22.719 --> 00:42:25.639
subject to international law. Here's the laws.

00:42:25.659 --> 00:42:30.599
Case closed. Done deal. Yeah. Do you think they'll

00:42:30.599 --> 00:42:34.159
ever do it? No, because I think there's too many

00:42:34.159 --> 00:42:37.599
people in the right places getting paid. Yeah.

00:42:37.880 --> 00:42:41.619
Or getting supplied with underage people and

00:42:41.619 --> 00:42:45.820
drugs. Oh. Yeah, I said the thing out loud. Yeah,

00:42:45.820 --> 00:42:48.559
unfortunately, there's more than one Epstein.

00:42:48.659 --> 00:42:56.719
I dare you. Unfortunately, Epstein wasn't the

00:42:56.719 --> 00:43:00.739
only one. There's many more to find. It's like

00:43:00.739 --> 00:43:04.260
Pokemon. You got to catch them all. The Epsteins,

00:43:04.320 --> 00:43:07.179
not the kids. The Epsteins. Two different things.

00:43:10.960 --> 00:43:19.570
Let's see. Oh. Oh my goodness, our Twitch. I

00:43:19.570 --> 00:43:23.750
don't even want to know. No, you do not. But

00:43:23.750 --> 00:43:26.309
I think besides that, honestly, you two answered

00:43:26.309 --> 00:43:28.710
the questions that I had way more quickly than

00:43:28.710 --> 00:43:32.690
I honestly anticipated. Never underestimate the

00:43:32.690 --> 00:43:37.289
level of tism in this group. I expect the three

00:43:37.289 --> 00:43:41.389
of us, honestly, to have more different opinions

00:43:41.389 --> 00:43:44.469
than I would have thought. Let me kind of go

00:43:44.469 --> 00:43:47.289
off on a tangent here for a second. Yes. I fully

00:43:47.289 --> 00:43:52.730
support the thoughts and ideas of protecting

00:43:52.730 --> 00:43:58.409
people from getting the drugs on our shores.

00:43:59.230 --> 00:44:03.110
We know, especially with fentanyl, good God,

00:44:03.190 --> 00:44:05.250
if I could just Thanos snap my fingers and get

00:44:05.250 --> 00:44:09.110
fentanyl off this planet, at least in the drug

00:44:09.110 --> 00:44:12.679
case, I would do it. That has caused more accidental

00:44:12.679 --> 00:44:15.860
deaths than any other drug, I'm pretty sure.

00:44:16.840 --> 00:44:20.079
Oh, yeah. The bad part is it's a great medication.

00:44:21.239 --> 00:44:25.019
Yeah. When it's used properly. Used appropriately,

00:44:25.280 --> 00:44:28.860
yeah. So there's that fine line again. But just

00:44:28.860 --> 00:44:32.039
like a firearm, it's a great tool when used properly.

00:44:32.639 --> 00:44:35.599
So you have a really hard time making that argument.

00:44:35.679 --> 00:44:38.500
But when you've got people who are going to abuse

00:44:38.500 --> 00:44:43.050
the system like that. and get it into the drug

00:44:43.050 --> 00:44:46.789
supply like they are, cocaine, meth, heroin,

00:44:46.989 --> 00:44:49.989
whatever, and they're intentionally overdosing

00:44:49.989 --> 00:44:52.610
people like this, the people who are most susceptible

00:44:52.610 --> 00:44:55.289
are going to be the recipients, not the people

00:44:55.289 --> 00:44:58.489
supplying it. So you've got people who are just

00:44:58.489 --> 00:45:05.650
in a bad spot in life. I have never been on...

00:45:06.510 --> 00:45:09.730
the spot of life of seeing addiction that up

00:45:09.730 --> 00:45:14.090
close other than when i was an emt so i know

00:45:14.090 --> 00:45:20.150
addiction is a disease i guess i i don't feel

00:45:20.150 --> 00:45:22.809
like it's something that people can just easily

00:45:22.809 --> 00:45:25.710
walk away from and i know that it is one of the

00:45:25.710 --> 00:45:28.309
hardest things to get over especially with shit

00:45:28.309 --> 00:45:31.110
like heroin because you use it once you are chemically

00:45:31.110 --> 00:45:36.880
addicted the same with pcp yeah so And I believe

00:45:36.880 --> 00:45:39.199
like meth might be another one where once or

00:45:39.199 --> 00:45:42.019
twice. Yeah. But you're, you're in there. Um,

00:45:42.119 --> 00:45:46.260
we don't have the support services for, for the

00:45:46.260 --> 00:45:48.400
people that want to get the help to get the help

00:45:48.400 --> 00:45:52.380
they need. So realistically cutting off the supply

00:45:52.380 --> 00:45:56.360
is literally the best option. Now, yeah, they're

00:45:56.360 --> 00:45:58.739
going to go through DTs. If this happens, you

00:45:58.739 --> 00:46:03.380
know, best case scenario, but people can be saved

00:46:03.380 --> 00:46:08.019
from DTs. Yeah. So here's my question to you

00:46:08.019 --> 00:46:11.780
then, because I have several different solutions

00:46:11.780 --> 00:46:14.360
for this one, but how do you think we should

00:46:14.360 --> 00:46:16.159
be handling and holding these countries accountable

00:46:16.159 --> 00:46:20.980
for allowing or supporting the manufacturing

00:46:20.980 --> 00:46:23.699
distribution of these drugs, especially when

00:46:23.699 --> 00:46:26.659
the intent is to distribute and sell in this

00:46:26.659 --> 00:46:30.099
country? So a lot of the countries that are doing

00:46:30.099 --> 00:46:34.500
this are doing this fully knowledgeably. They're

00:46:34.500 --> 00:46:36.559
doing this under the guise of, oh, we don't know

00:46:36.559 --> 00:46:39.099
what's going on, but they're being funded from

00:46:39.099 --> 00:46:42.519
it. So you go in, you find ways to take out their

00:46:42.519 --> 00:46:44.800
cash supplies. You take out whatever support

00:46:44.800 --> 00:46:48.460
system they have that's benefiting from the money

00:46:48.460 --> 00:46:51.099
that they're getting. Then you go and you take

00:46:51.099 --> 00:46:53.199
out the supply system that they're using to get,

00:46:53.320 --> 00:46:56.739
make, and or manufacture the drugs, the logistics

00:46:56.739 --> 00:47:01.250
network, all of it. Then. you start taking out

00:47:01.250 --> 00:47:02.909
the support network for any of that logistics

00:47:02.909 --> 00:47:07.449
network. And if it still doesn't stop, well,

00:47:07.469 --> 00:47:08.590
then you start taking out their infrastructure.

00:47:09.329 --> 00:47:11.210
You send them back to the 1800s if you have to.

00:47:11.510 --> 00:47:13.409
Funny enough, some of these countries still exist

00:47:13.409 --> 00:47:16.530
in the 1800s just with some modifications. So

00:47:16.530 --> 00:47:17.769
if you have to take them back to the Stone Age,

00:47:17.929 --> 00:47:21.210
take them back to the Stone Age. So do you think

00:47:21.210 --> 00:47:23.349
then at this point we should transition maybe

00:47:23.349 --> 00:47:28.099
the CIA in a way? almost to say you know what

00:47:28.099 --> 00:47:31.739
if if terrorism well it's a problem isn't nearly

00:47:31.739 --> 00:47:35.440
the problem as drug distribution is in this country

00:47:35.440 --> 00:47:38.719
do you take the cia and say hey all that shit

00:47:38.719 --> 00:47:40.400
you guys been doing for the last 40 years that

00:47:40.400 --> 00:47:44.360
you know works fucking have at it or do or just

00:47:44.360 --> 00:47:46.639
or do we just give the dea more resources and

00:47:46.639 --> 00:47:49.300
say hey you know we'll give you guys free reigns

00:47:49.300 --> 00:47:51.460
in other countries do what you got to do where

00:47:51.460 --> 00:47:54.449
what's the line what's the line What's the line?

00:47:54.690 --> 00:47:56.230
Where do we go with this? Because I guess the

00:47:56.230 --> 00:47:59.949
problem is with what we're doing right now, it

00:47:59.949 --> 00:48:01.809
ain't helped. We've been losing the war on drugs

00:48:01.809 --> 00:48:04.469
for the last 30, 40 years. We've made essentially

00:48:04.469 --> 00:48:06.809
zero progress. Anytime we make progress anywhere,

00:48:06.909 --> 00:48:08.610
something else comes up and it's even worse.

00:48:08.949 --> 00:48:12.489
It's even worse. So what do we do? Our biggest

00:48:12.489 --> 00:48:15.909
problem is we have no follow through. Yeah. After

00:48:15.909 --> 00:48:19.110
World War II, that was like the answer on how

00:48:19.110 --> 00:48:23.409
we handle anything. World War II cleanup, we

00:48:23.409 --> 00:48:26.590
did great. Anything after that, it's been an

00:48:26.590 --> 00:48:28.230
absolute shit show. You're going to send the

00:48:28.230 --> 00:48:30.530
CIA in to deal with this, we're going to have

00:48:30.530 --> 00:48:34.469
another Iran. Iran, before the CIA had got their

00:48:34.469 --> 00:48:36.409
hands on that country, was a democratic country.

00:48:37.369 --> 00:48:42.269
They were very progressive. You almost wouldn't

00:48:42.269 --> 00:48:43.989
think that was the same country if you look at

00:48:43.989 --> 00:48:47.190
the pictures from the 50s to now. Before the

00:48:47.190 --> 00:48:49.110
Arab Spring or the Arab Uprising in the late

00:48:49.110 --> 00:48:53.260
70s, Iran was a very up and coming place yeah

00:48:53.260 --> 00:48:56.559
so the last thing we need to do is send in our

00:48:56.559 --> 00:49:00.219
spooks because they're a bunch of morons when

00:49:00.219 --> 00:49:02.679
it comes to keeping things cleaned up they they

00:49:02.679 --> 00:49:05.280
can go in and spy and kill stuff and all that

00:49:05.280 --> 00:49:08.099
but the problem is is their follow -through is

00:49:08.099 --> 00:49:12.159
terrible so is is the real solution at this point

00:49:12.159 --> 00:49:18.039
do we then have to start nicely annexing south

00:49:18.039 --> 00:49:20.360
the border saying hey starting with mexico it's

00:49:20.360 --> 00:49:21.920
just rolling tanks in there and being like hey

00:49:21.920 --> 00:49:24.780
we we are now taking you as a territory of the

00:49:24.780 --> 00:49:27.440
u .s and just kicking these cartels out okay

00:49:27.440 --> 00:49:31.199
listen i i am getting very tired of making batman

00:49:31.199 --> 00:49:34.559
references in our shows but they're getting more

00:49:34.559 --> 00:49:40.900
and more uh relevant so at this point we're now

00:49:40.900 --> 00:49:44.119
at the point of either we die the hero or we

00:49:44.119 --> 00:49:45.519
live long enough to see ourselves become the

00:49:45.519 --> 00:49:48.219
bad guy. We're approaching living long enough

00:49:48.219 --> 00:49:52.320
to become the bad guy territory. Because we literally

00:49:52.320 --> 00:49:56.260
sent how many people to die in World War II to

00:49:56.260 --> 00:49:58.840
take out a dictator who was annexing land and

00:49:58.840 --> 00:50:01.579
now that's literally the best option we have.

00:50:02.559 --> 00:50:05.260
I was going to say it's not, I wouldn't go that

00:50:05.260 --> 00:50:10.699
route. I would say more or less if a cartel member

00:50:11.469 --> 00:50:14.530
goes and does something that causes a crime in

00:50:14.530 --> 00:50:17.130
the U .S., at that point you retaliate in kind.

00:50:17.849 --> 00:50:20.070
But not the objective, we're going to roll all

00:50:20.070 --> 00:50:22.510
our troops up into a country. I mean, if all

00:50:22.510 --> 00:50:25.210
of a sudden you got 30, 40 freaking cartel members

00:50:25.210 --> 00:50:27.590
roll up into the U .S., do some dumb shit, well,

00:50:27.610 --> 00:50:29.690
guess what? We're going to have 30 or 40 specialized

00:50:29.690 --> 00:50:32.829
units roll right up and do some dumb shit on

00:50:32.829 --> 00:50:35.690
you. But our objective should not be annexing,

00:50:35.690 --> 00:50:39.070
we should not be taking anything. We should absolutely

00:50:39.070 --> 00:50:42.570
be, you know, we should be, Our objective, especially

00:50:42.570 --> 00:50:44.969
if we're still fighting the whole thing with

00:50:44.969 --> 00:50:48.010
drugs and all that, the objective is go after

00:50:48.010 --> 00:50:50.170
the people that are causing the problem. And

00:50:50.170 --> 00:50:53.030
if that means doing like what Trump's doing right

00:50:53.030 --> 00:50:55.170
now, because it's not in the U .S. that we're

00:50:55.170 --> 00:50:57.050
talking about. We're talking about international

00:50:57.050 --> 00:51:00.090
waters, and that's one thing. But when you're

00:51:00.090 --> 00:51:01.610
talking about something that's here in the U

00:51:01.610 --> 00:51:04.389
.S., obviously your tactics are going to be way

00:51:04.389 --> 00:51:10.070
different. So I have an interjection. what you

00:51:10.070 --> 00:51:12.929
were saying about um going after the the cartels

00:51:12.929 --> 00:51:17.550
and whatnot if they don't start calming down

00:51:17.550 --> 00:51:20.110
and playing ball a little bit instead of just

00:51:20.110 --> 00:51:23.449
launching troop campaigns let's just take a page

00:51:23.449 --> 00:51:26.730
out of ukraine's book and start launching drone

00:51:26.730 --> 00:51:30.050
attacks because those are going to be a little

00:51:30.050 --> 00:51:32.369
bit more targeted and a little less collateral

00:51:32.369 --> 00:51:36.369
and we can focus more on where it needs to go

00:51:37.719 --> 00:51:39.659
We just want to be careful how much you want

00:51:39.659 --> 00:51:41.480
to bring that back to the stateside with that,

00:51:41.519 --> 00:51:44.940
though. Because that could get ugly real fast

00:51:44.940 --> 00:51:46.920
just watching the stuff of, you know, Ukraine,

00:51:47.059 --> 00:51:50.099
Russia. Well, look at China, because we've been

00:51:50.099 --> 00:51:52.739
talking, and I'm working on some stuff for a

00:51:52.739 --> 00:51:56.619
drone and AI -type show, because, I mean, that's

00:51:56.619 --> 00:51:58.880
one of the big things we cover here. But, yeah,

00:51:58.960 --> 00:52:00.739
some of the stuff that China has been unveiling

00:52:00.739 --> 00:52:05.380
is absolutely asshole -clenchingly horrifying.

00:52:06.529 --> 00:52:09.269
when it comes to their drone capabilities. Especially,

00:52:09.510 --> 00:52:11.750
by the way, the DJI band is supposed to be going

00:52:11.750 --> 00:52:14.670
into effect soon, by the way. Yeah, so I might

00:52:14.670 --> 00:52:16.449
as well throw my shit away. Get your drones while

00:52:16.449 --> 00:52:19.710
you can. Did you see the dude that's got the

00:52:19.710 --> 00:52:23.690
gesture control drones now? Yeah. And he's got

00:52:23.690 --> 00:52:26.610
a whole fleet of them. That was a fleet of flying

00:52:26.610 --> 00:52:31.389
swords or whatever he had. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So

00:52:31.389 --> 00:52:34.469
here's my other question to you two then, because...

00:52:35.179 --> 00:52:39.440
My thought has been, what if we do none of those

00:52:39.440 --> 00:52:42.980
options? What if we do the economic route and

00:52:42.980 --> 00:52:45.480
we tell these countries, hey, we're going to

00:52:45.480 --> 00:52:47.559
calculate the damage your country is doing to

00:52:47.559 --> 00:52:51.380
our country with drugs, and we are going to literally

00:52:51.380 --> 00:52:54.159
tear a few into oblivion. And that way, when

00:52:54.159 --> 00:52:56.559
you have no money and you're begging for our

00:52:56.559 --> 00:52:59.039
help, then we roll in with the tanks and military.

00:52:59.599 --> 00:53:02.280
When your citizens are asking, we have nothing

00:53:02.280 --> 00:53:04.980
left, there's no government, no anything. it

00:53:04.980 --> 00:53:06.500
seems like we're almost stuck in the point to

00:53:06.500 --> 00:53:08.400
where we can't do anything. Anything we do is

00:53:08.400 --> 00:53:10.739
going to be wrong. Or do we just say screw it

00:53:10.739 --> 00:53:14.840
and at least economically force some changes?

00:53:15.039 --> 00:53:16.639
Because I think at some point, I hate to be that

00:53:16.639 --> 00:53:18.860
guy. I know we don't want to have boots on ground.

00:53:18.920 --> 00:53:20.179
I know we don't want to have to do anything,

00:53:20.360 --> 00:53:23.500
any of these things. But if we keep this cycle

00:53:23.500 --> 00:53:27.739
up for much longer, there won't be countries

00:53:27.739 --> 00:53:31.119
left. There won't be any countries like south

00:53:31.119 --> 00:53:33.440
of our border. They're all just going to be giant.

00:53:34.300 --> 00:53:37.280
effective you know states of the cartel in various

00:53:37.280 --> 00:53:39.360
cartels and then the problem is they have so

00:53:39.360 --> 00:53:41.300
many human shields it's basically they're doing

00:53:41.300 --> 00:53:43.539
the palestine method but across the entire south

00:53:43.539 --> 00:53:46.679
of the border so what what do you do to actually

00:53:46.679 --> 00:53:49.900
solve anything do you just say screw it and use

00:53:49.900 --> 00:53:52.639
sanctions and tariffs to make it to force those

00:53:52.639 --> 00:53:56.579
governments to say you have to do something or

00:53:58.159 --> 00:54:01.079
Do you hope that maybe the drone program or CIA

00:54:01.079 --> 00:54:04.820
or DA or whoever else or special agents can make

00:54:04.820 --> 00:54:08.699
some sort of change? I think maybe it's a combination

00:54:08.699 --> 00:54:13.880
of both. Because otherwise you're going to be

00:54:13.880 --> 00:54:15.900
left with a scorched earth policy that's going

00:54:15.900 --> 00:54:21.039
to be all that's left. Yeah. And I can't be in

00:54:21.039 --> 00:54:22.420
charge because I would have just took the gloves

00:54:22.420 --> 00:54:26.119
off and said, screw it, kill them all. you know,

00:54:26.119 --> 00:54:28.760
it's a little heavy handed, but I get it. I really

00:54:28.760 --> 00:54:32.579
do. But it would work just from watching all

00:54:32.579 --> 00:54:34.880
the drug users over the years and people that

00:54:34.880 --> 00:54:36.960
have been addicted that should never been addicted.

00:54:37.079 --> 00:54:39.619
Hell, I watched one poor woman get addicted to

00:54:39.619 --> 00:54:42.699
PCP and it wasn't even her fault. She got a cigarette

00:54:42.699 --> 00:54:46.039
from a friend who dipped it in PCP and it to

00:54:46.039 --> 00:54:48.599
her. And now she's addicted to it, even though

00:54:48.599 --> 00:54:50.829
she had no intention of smoking it. But you know

00:54:50.829 --> 00:54:52.429
what, though? I feel like that's a failing of

00:54:52.429 --> 00:54:54.829
also a lot of our cities, not enforcing drug

00:54:54.829 --> 00:54:57.110
policies. And this is part of the problem, I

00:54:57.110 --> 00:55:00.210
think, domestically. Maybe something I didn't

00:55:00.210 --> 00:55:03.829
consider before, but we have to tighten up our

00:55:03.829 --> 00:55:07.610
drug enforcement domestically and have a clear

00:55:07.610 --> 00:55:09.230
delineation. Because some drug enforcement, quite

00:55:09.230 --> 00:55:11.190
frankly, we shouldn't be, like marijuana shouldn't

00:55:11.190 --> 00:55:12.329
be a class -run drug, and there's a few other

00:55:12.329 --> 00:55:13.829
things I don't think that we should be prosecuting

00:55:13.829 --> 00:55:16.349
for. But at the same point, in a lot of major

00:55:16.349 --> 00:55:19.260
cities, we allow big -time... drug dealers to

00:55:19.260 --> 00:55:21.199
walk free all the time and other people to not

00:55:21.199 --> 00:55:23.980
face jail time, to not be forced to actually

00:55:23.980 --> 00:55:27.519
make a difference and serve their time or be

00:55:27.519 --> 00:55:29.880
forced to give up information on people they

00:55:29.880 --> 00:55:31.760
were working with. Maybe it's a combination of

00:55:31.760 --> 00:55:35.179
all those things where between domestically getting

00:55:35.179 --> 00:55:37.079
rid of as many of these people as possible and

00:55:37.079 --> 00:55:42.000
then foreign discouraging and disincentivizing

00:55:42.000 --> 00:55:44.239
any of these things to happen in the first place.

00:55:47.559 --> 00:55:59.340
Yeah. It's sticky. It's dark and it's not an

00:55:59.340 --> 00:56:04.219
easy path to go down. Sorry, I was trying to

00:56:04.219 --> 00:56:10.320
get my words. It's okay. Words are hard. So that

00:56:10.320 --> 00:56:14.480
was at least the discussion I wanted to have

00:56:14.480 --> 00:56:16.199
with that. I'm glad I could get your guys' thoughts

00:56:16.199 --> 00:56:19.239
on that. because again you both have more experience

00:56:19.239 --> 00:56:21.780
and some of the stuff in terms of traveling the

00:56:21.780 --> 00:56:23.360
world and going places and seeing different things

00:56:23.360 --> 00:56:26.239
than i do and to be honest with you i have zero

00:56:26.239 --> 00:56:29.300
experience with any of that stuff all that stuff's

00:56:29.300 --> 00:56:32.079
very foreign to me so i thought it was interesting

00:56:32.079 --> 00:56:36.619
topic for us to kind of discuss yeah yeah because

00:56:36.619 --> 00:56:38.400
there's no real solution there's no easy solution

00:56:38.400 --> 00:56:41.340
there you know Because our podcast is really

00:56:41.340 --> 00:56:43.760
good at saying, hey, here's the easy fucking

00:56:43.760 --> 00:56:46.340
solution that all you idiots in Congress can't

00:56:46.340 --> 00:56:48.159
seem to figure out. But this is probably the

00:56:48.159 --> 00:56:51.440
one that's like, man, that's tough. Yeah. So

00:56:51.440 --> 00:56:54.480
I did have a question that I had added into the

00:56:54.480 --> 00:56:59.960
notes. Are we slowly entering the area of America

00:56:59.960 --> 00:57:02.579
does war crimes, otherwise known as the Geneva

00:57:02.579 --> 00:57:05.940
checklist? Because as was mentioned in the news

00:57:05.940 --> 00:57:09.690
articles, when. We recently hit one of those

00:57:09.690 --> 00:57:12.250
drug boats. There was a second attack ordered

00:57:12.250 --> 00:57:16.510
to go after the survivors. I do not know if this

00:57:16.510 --> 00:57:19.250
has been 100 % confirmed that that was the intent

00:57:19.250 --> 00:57:22.389
of the attack. Go ahead. I do have the answer

00:57:22.389 --> 00:57:25.389
on that one. Okay. So according to Pete Hegseth,

00:57:25.429 --> 00:57:27.869
from what I had read and from what I had heard,

00:57:28.010 --> 00:57:31.489
is their objective was to destroy the boat itself.

00:57:31.869 --> 00:57:34.809
The survivors who had jumped out of the boat.

00:57:35.150 --> 00:57:37.710
then got back in the boat while the bomb and

00:57:37.710 --> 00:57:40.590
our missile was already in the air. So, cause

00:57:40.590 --> 00:57:42.610
it was already on fire. So they hit it. It was

00:57:42.610 --> 00:57:45.710
on fire. They jumped out. The fire stopped. They

00:57:45.710 --> 00:57:48.510
jumped back in. And that was well after they

00:57:48.510 --> 00:57:50.329
had already hit the button to release said munition.

00:57:50.469 --> 00:57:54.329
So that was not, they, that's why when I started

00:57:54.329 --> 00:57:55.590
this, I should have, I should have mentioned

00:57:55.590 --> 00:57:57.429
this whole thing. That's my fault. But when I

00:57:57.429 --> 00:57:59.650
started this conversation, I mentioned that sometimes

00:57:59.650 --> 00:58:01.650
the boats that were the target, not necessarily

00:58:01.650 --> 00:58:04.380
the people. And it was that specific instance

00:58:04.380 --> 00:58:06.179
or circumstance that I was referencing that I

00:58:06.179 --> 00:58:09.039
forgot to get back to. But effectively, it was

00:58:09.039 --> 00:58:11.239
the boat. The boat was the problem. The boat

00:58:11.239 --> 00:58:14.360
had the drugs. So that was the target. The boat

00:58:14.360 --> 00:58:19.880
had to go. Yeah. So then it began to ooze. But

00:58:19.880 --> 00:58:24.719
no, they were not explicitly the targets. But

00:58:24.719 --> 00:58:27.400
also, not for nothing, why would you be dumb

00:58:27.400 --> 00:58:29.760
enough? If you're on a boat carrying stuff that's

00:58:29.760 --> 00:58:31.880
illegal and it gets hit by ammunition and is

00:58:31.880 --> 00:58:37.380
on fire, why do you go back in said boat? That's

00:58:37.380 --> 00:58:39.559
the only possible chance you have of survival.

00:58:39.699 --> 00:58:40.960
I mean, if you're out in the middle of the water,

00:58:41.099 --> 00:58:46.059
it's that or sharks. Well, for being out where

00:58:46.059 --> 00:58:51.119
they are, yeah. It's the door issue from Titanic

00:58:51.119 --> 00:58:53.860
all over again. I just wish I had an AI generated

00:58:53.860 --> 00:58:57.119
image of, you know, me on vacation in the Caribbean.

00:58:57.260 --> 00:58:59.400
It just shows me like standing in a boat on fire,

00:58:59.440 --> 00:59:01.739
looking up as a 500 pound bomb, like five feet

00:59:01.739 --> 00:59:04.199
away from my face. Like, oh yes, this vacation

00:59:04.199 --> 00:59:08.739
is going really well. You don't actually have

00:59:08.739 --> 00:59:10.099
to do that. It was, it was more like a joke,

00:59:10.099 --> 00:59:15.420
but I can make that happen. I know you can. So

00:59:15.420 --> 00:59:19.039
it's, it's just one of those things where. It

00:59:19.039 --> 00:59:21.119
is a tough topic, but I wanted the people at

00:59:21.119 --> 00:59:23.320
home to understand that. I know we're hearing

00:59:23.320 --> 00:59:25.239
a lot of things from news media saying that all

00:59:25.239 --> 00:59:27.599
this is illegal. And quite frankly, from everything

00:59:27.599 --> 00:59:31.920
I can look at and see, 100 % of what's happened

00:59:31.920 --> 00:59:35.260
or what has been ordered per the letter of the

00:59:35.260 --> 00:59:39.559
law is legal. Morally, that's a different story.

00:59:39.619 --> 00:59:42.119
It's a question of not is it legal or not, because

00:59:42.119 --> 00:59:44.820
it is. It's a question of should we? And that's

00:59:44.820 --> 00:59:46.719
a whole different. No, that's this discussion

00:59:46.719 --> 00:59:48.940
we've been having. But just don't let people,

00:59:48.960 --> 00:59:51.000
you know, from the news media, other people swayed

00:59:51.000 --> 00:59:53.079
you say, oh, whatever happens illegal to solve

00:59:53.079 --> 00:59:56.420
bullshit. It's not. It's not. And I'm sure if

00:59:56.420 --> 01:00:00.780
it was illegal, you would have to arrest so many

01:00:00.780 --> 01:00:05.079
previous presidents. It was particularly got

01:00:05.079 --> 01:00:06.960
to give him credit. Obama probably has the highest

01:00:06.960 --> 01:00:09.320
score on that one. You know, the amount of people

01:00:09.320 --> 01:00:11.619
that the amount of innocent people he had bombed.

01:00:13.300 --> 01:00:19.900
Is astronomical. So. I wish I remember the number

01:00:19.900 --> 01:00:22.519
off the top of my head, but from what I had read,

01:00:22.639 --> 01:00:24.179
we had dropped more bombs in the Middle East

01:00:24.179 --> 01:00:28.539
than we did in World War II. Oh, yeah. And there

01:00:28.539 --> 01:00:32.019
was over a million civilians killed in the Middle

01:00:32.019 --> 01:00:34.780
East, noncombatants, for everything that happened.

01:00:34.920 --> 01:00:37.739
Wow, that's a lot. So it's like, when you really

01:00:37.739 --> 01:00:38.960
put that into perspective, you're like, wow.

01:00:39.760 --> 01:00:42.539
And he presided over 60 years. My crew all by

01:00:42.539 --> 01:00:45.059
ourselves just in the first six months of the...

01:00:45.710 --> 01:00:48.190
The Iraqi conflict, I mean, we dropped over a

01:00:48.190 --> 01:00:51.590
million tonnage. Jeez. What were most of those,

01:00:51.590 --> 01:00:57.650
500s or 1 ,000s? 1 ,000s, 2 ,000s, yeah. It was

01:00:57.650 --> 01:01:03.329
a lot of GB -12s. A lot of 12s. Oh, my God. Hit

01:01:03.329 --> 01:01:08.349
some GB -24s in there, some 15s, Adrian 130s

01:01:08.349 --> 01:01:12.449
that were in there, you know. It was a lot of

01:01:12.449 --> 01:01:16.559
GB -12s. Yeah. And for those people who have

01:01:16.559 --> 01:01:19.239
a 1 ,000 -pound bomb, we'll do what, like a house

01:01:19.239 --> 01:01:21.440
or two? Two or three houses in a row kind of

01:01:21.440 --> 01:01:27.780
thing? Just one GB -12 could pop a house. But

01:01:27.780 --> 01:01:31.300
if you dare, you're pink mist. That's where the

01:01:31.300 --> 01:01:36.300
joke comes from. You are pink mist. You are now

01:01:36.300 --> 01:01:40.300
past tense. Yeah. We'll be looking for your teeth.

01:01:40.400 --> 01:01:47.519
That's it. Do those even survive? Yeah. It can.

01:01:48.260 --> 01:01:56.059
The calcium parts can. Yeah. I mean, yeah, it

01:01:56.059 --> 01:01:59.300
just depends on how hot it gets. And how close

01:01:59.300 --> 01:02:03.639
you were to this. Right. If it was hot, you know,

01:02:03.639 --> 01:02:05.699
close enough that, you know, it flayed away the

01:02:05.699 --> 01:02:07.619
flesh of your skin, but yet not strong enough

01:02:07.619 --> 01:02:09.960
to vaporize your teeth, it's just going to get

01:02:09.960 --> 01:02:18.050
knocked out of your mouth. Yeah. I know. Shouldn't

01:02:18.050 --> 01:02:22.750
know these things. Well, I shouldn't be carrying

01:02:22.750 --> 01:02:25.869
around an image on my phone that shows how to

01:02:25.869 --> 01:02:28.610
properly prepare a human for consumption either,

01:02:28.690 --> 01:02:30.610
but I do. You know, I think that's like, what,

01:02:30.650 --> 01:02:32.449
the seventh or eighth podcast in a row you brought

01:02:32.449 --> 01:02:36.929
that up? I'm afraid he really wants to try it.

01:02:37.050 --> 01:02:42.690
You're not trying it. No. Oh. Well, it depends

01:02:42.690 --> 01:02:44.429
if these solar storms get any worse. Who knows?

01:02:44.489 --> 01:02:47.460
It's the ninth now. Yeah, right. Did you hear

01:02:47.460 --> 01:02:50.579
that they grounded an airplane? No, I didn't.

01:02:50.579 --> 01:02:53.340
Oh, my God. So it's a developing story waiting

01:02:53.340 --> 01:02:55.639
on details. But from what I had heard earlier

01:02:55.639 --> 01:02:58.239
this morning, there was so there's been so much

01:02:58.239 --> 01:02:59.760
in the solar storms and radiation and whatnot.

01:02:59.840 --> 01:03:02.320
There's a plane that they had to ground because

01:03:02.320 --> 01:03:05.280
they're having. Wow. So there's now a huge worry

01:03:05.280 --> 01:03:09.679
with the FAA being like, oh, my problems. So,

01:03:09.679 --> 01:03:12.920
you know. Just keep an eye on that one. That

01:03:12.920 --> 01:03:14.519
might be a one -off. Who knows? Maybe they forgot

01:03:14.519 --> 01:03:15.940
the shielding or something, or maybe there was

01:03:15.940 --> 01:03:19.980
some sort of accident. Yeah. But there's been

01:03:19.980 --> 01:03:22.880
massive solar storms lately. I can function.

01:03:23.719 --> 01:03:25.760
Or who knows? Maybe that's an excuse for our

01:03:25.760 --> 01:03:27.320
internet going all fucky because there's so many

01:03:27.320 --> 01:03:30.420
cybersecurity attacks. Who knows? What even is

01:03:30.420 --> 01:03:35.099
real anymore? Who knows? I'll get back to you

01:03:35.099 --> 01:03:38.840
once I find Harambe again. Right. That brings

01:03:38.840 --> 01:03:44.829
up a... a topic we have something on the docket

01:03:44.829 --> 01:03:49.250
about how real are things um talking about whether

01:03:49.250 --> 01:03:52.050
or not real life is actually a simulation or

01:03:52.050 --> 01:03:57.690
not uh i i have to not say anything or else this

01:03:57.690 --> 01:04:00.969
will be a three -hour podcast that i could go

01:04:00.969 --> 01:04:03.130
on for for an hour well that's where we're going

01:04:03.130 --> 01:04:05.150
to do an episode on it yeah that's that's a yeah

01:04:05.150 --> 01:04:11.360
yes all i can say is i i have some uh suggestions

01:04:11.360 --> 01:04:15.179
if it is to whoever's running this. Somebody

01:04:15.179 --> 01:04:18.539
run the antivirus program because holy shit.

01:04:19.639 --> 01:04:22.400
Right. Can he get rid of like the random parts

01:04:22.400 --> 01:04:24.599
of you being itchy? Like whoever's the asshole

01:04:24.599 --> 01:04:27.440
that fucking did that for a simulation? I swear

01:04:27.440 --> 01:04:32.239
to God. Yeah. Yeah, I think we can do that next

01:04:32.239 --> 01:04:36.079
week if you guys want. Oh, yeah. Sure. All right.

01:04:37.019 --> 01:04:42.349
We'll do that. Oh, yeah. Excellent. Excellent.

01:04:45.389 --> 01:04:48.610
Oh, shit. Does that kind of wrap us up for this

01:04:48.610 --> 01:04:52.510
week? I think so. I apologize because I'm pretty

01:04:52.510 --> 01:04:55.190
sure you had a much longer episode lined up,

01:04:55.230 --> 01:04:58.610
but we tismed out and got most of the stuff answered.

01:04:58.730 --> 01:05:01.469
Well, I guess I thought maybe all three of us

01:05:01.469 --> 01:05:02.789
were going to have some different opinions than

01:05:02.789 --> 01:05:07.730
we did, and we all happened to agree basically

01:05:07.730 --> 01:05:11.230
word for word. So, sir, we've been friends for

01:05:11.230 --> 01:05:13.750
how long now? I mean, well, it was going to happen.

01:05:13.949 --> 01:05:16.849
Yeah. Yeah. But like, I don't know. I figured.

01:05:16.909 --> 01:05:19.389
So maybe as someone that like I never served

01:05:19.389 --> 01:05:22.070
the military, I don't have the experience with

01:05:22.070 --> 01:05:23.630
any of this kind of stuff. I was hoping maybe

01:05:23.630 --> 01:05:24.889
you guys were going to bring up some stuff that

01:05:24.889 --> 01:05:26.570
was going to challenge some of my preconceived

01:05:26.570 --> 01:05:30.710
notions and like expectations and dead to death.

01:05:31.150 --> 01:05:34.449
So, yeah, I was a little surprised, but I'm also

01:05:34.449 --> 01:05:36.190
not. I should have kind of planned for that.

01:05:37.320 --> 01:05:38.960
Well, let me ask you this because you were the

01:05:38.960 --> 01:05:41.059
one asking most of the questions. What would

01:05:41.059 --> 01:05:43.579
you rather see happen with the drug carriers

01:05:43.579 --> 01:05:46.900
on the boats? Because I didn't really counter

01:05:46.900 --> 01:05:53.000
you. So I will be honest. I am not a nice person

01:05:53.000 --> 01:05:55.960
when it comes to that stuff. So my threshold

01:05:55.960 --> 01:06:00.809
for proof on that, it's way fucking lower. To

01:06:00.809 --> 01:06:02.750
be honest, what I would like to happen, because

01:06:02.750 --> 01:06:05.070
I know we have the technology, is I'd really

01:06:05.070 --> 01:06:07.530
like to use drones a lot more, maybe use a lot

01:06:07.530 --> 01:06:10.429
more smaller boats out there, establish a perimeter,

01:06:10.550 --> 01:06:13.550
maybe an extra 500 or 1 ,000 miles outside of

01:06:13.550 --> 01:06:16.190
our border with a bunch of smaller boats that

01:06:16.190 --> 01:06:18.909
have drones with a lot of surveillance. Basically

01:06:18.909 --> 01:06:20.550
use those drones to approach those boats and

01:06:20.550 --> 01:06:23.010
say, hey, if you cross this line in the next

01:06:23.010 --> 01:06:26.210
30 or 50 nautical miles, you will be fired upon.

01:06:26.329 --> 01:06:28.250
I think notification might be a really big thing

01:06:28.250 --> 01:06:31.179
where it's like, hey, this is illegal. You shouldn't

01:06:31.179 --> 01:06:33.940
be doing this. If you keep doing this, you're

01:06:33.940 --> 01:06:36.699
going to go kaboom. And if they do not acknowledge

01:06:36.699 --> 01:06:39.500
or ignore that order, then you can bring a ship

01:06:39.500 --> 01:06:41.860
out or bring another bigger drone out with have

01:06:41.860 --> 01:06:45.440
some boom boom and deal with the situation or

01:06:45.440 --> 01:06:48.079
even aircraft, whatever. I have no problem as

01:06:48.079 --> 01:06:51.280
well using aircraft in a more public display.

01:06:51.769 --> 01:06:54.329
Shall I say, that's why I wish we had, I know

01:06:54.329 --> 01:06:55.829
aircraft carriers are really expensive, but I

01:06:55.829 --> 01:06:58.190
wish we had like we had more world war two where

01:06:58.190 --> 01:07:00.130
a lot of like the smaller aircraft carriers that

01:07:00.130 --> 01:07:02.409
even just carried like a few and having like

01:07:02.409 --> 01:07:04.230
a large fleet of like aircraft carriers that

01:07:04.230 --> 01:07:06.369
have maybe eight or 10, but establishing them

01:07:06.369 --> 01:07:08.889
as like a perimeter around the country. I know

01:07:08.889 --> 01:07:10.630
that would be expensive, but honestly we have

01:07:10.630 --> 01:07:12.389
the budget for it. We spend a shit ton of money.

01:07:12.429 --> 01:07:14.230
If you make them all off, if you make them all

01:07:14.230 --> 01:07:17.030
drone boat, it's not as bad. Now let me, let

01:07:17.030 --> 01:07:22.030
me pose another suggestion to you. You know how

01:07:22.030 --> 01:07:24.349
a tree shredder works, right? A chipper? Yeah.

01:07:25.030 --> 01:07:29.690
Okay. A chipper. Make that into a boat. A boat

01:07:29.690 --> 01:07:33.730
chipper. No. And you just deploy that. I just

01:07:33.730 --> 01:07:35.630
had a fucking brainwave. So you know how we're

01:07:35.630 --> 01:07:37.449
getting rid of those big hovercraft things? Neuron

01:07:37.449 --> 01:07:40.389
activation. Yes. It's my turn for the brain cell.

01:07:40.409 --> 01:07:43.710
God damn it. No. So you know the big hovercraft

01:07:43.710 --> 01:07:45.230
landing boats that we're getting rid of in the

01:07:45.230 --> 01:07:48.150
military? Just fucking use those as drone carriers.

01:07:49.309 --> 01:07:52.349
Yeah. Because we're getting rid of them. Might

01:07:52.349 --> 01:07:55.369
as well. You can put them anywhere. They're fucking

01:07:55.369 --> 01:07:58.090
hovercraft. Not anywhere, but, like, effectively

01:07:58.090 --> 01:08:01.210
anywhere. Why not use those? Keep them going.

01:08:03.150 --> 01:08:04.530
Have them patrolling out there. Expensive to

01:08:04.530 --> 01:08:09.030
maintain. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, that's true.

01:08:09.070 --> 01:08:10.889
You're not wrong there. I don't know. There's

01:08:10.889 --> 01:08:13.650
got to be a way of doing it. But I would just

01:08:13.650 --> 01:08:15.469
like us to implement drone technology more for

01:08:15.469 --> 01:08:17.539
something like that. Especially when I'll be

01:08:17.539 --> 01:08:19.039
honest with you, I am more than happy to spend

01:08:19.039 --> 01:08:21.279
$5 ,000 or $10 ,000 on a drone to blow up one

01:08:21.279 --> 01:08:24.079
of those boats. Just to go, yeah, it's 50 miles

01:08:24.079 --> 01:08:26.340
over the line. We've told them three times. Kaboom.

01:08:26.699 --> 01:08:31.640
Yeah. When you think about it, you can take a

01:08:31.640 --> 01:08:35.420
commercial off the drone shelf and turn a $500

01:08:35.420 --> 01:08:39.779
to $2 ,000 piece of technology and render up

01:08:39.779 --> 01:08:43.039
to a couple million dollar piece of equipment

01:08:43.039 --> 01:08:47.119
useless with one of those. Oh, yeah. if it's

01:08:47.119 --> 01:08:50.779
done right so come on how many years ago was

01:08:50.779 --> 01:08:54.380
it that they banned the ps3 from being used and

01:08:54.380 --> 01:08:57.539
that was just because they included ukraine is

01:08:57.539 --> 01:09:00.420
using modified steam decks right now to control

01:09:00.420 --> 01:09:04.880
their drones that's wild so i mean it's it's

01:09:04.880 --> 01:09:09.180
not hard no i mean for layman it's hard but you

01:09:09.180 --> 01:09:11.460
got the right know -how i i feel like maybe the

01:09:11.460 --> 01:09:12.979
method i'm describing would be far more palatable

01:09:12.979 --> 01:09:14.859
to people where it would seem more compassionate.

01:09:15.260 --> 01:09:17.520
And I feel like that's the big problem. That

01:09:17.520 --> 01:09:20.439
being said, if I was a dictator or a ruler, there

01:09:20.439 --> 01:09:22.539
would be no warning. It would just be, you cross

01:09:22.539 --> 01:09:24.520
this line, I put buoys out in the water, you

01:09:24.520 --> 01:09:27.220
cross the line, and suddenly, miraculously, 50

01:09:27.220 --> 01:09:29.760
feet past that line, you cease to exist. It would

01:09:29.760 --> 01:09:34.039
just be a hard no. Look, mommy, there's a new

01:09:34.039 --> 01:09:36.520
bag of white powder that just washed up on shore.

01:09:38.239 --> 01:09:40.739
Honestly, I feel like I'd be the asshole. And

01:09:40.739 --> 01:09:43.199
I take all the drugs from them and resell it

01:09:43.199 --> 01:09:45.319
to them full of other drugs that kills the people

01:09:45.319 --> 01:09:48.659
in the cartel. I would absolutely just use biological

01:09:48.659 --> 01:09:51.819
warfare against them. You know, I, I cast non

01:09:51.819 --> 01:09:59.600
magic missile. I just want to watch fireballs,

01:10:00.000 --> 01:10:05.859
but yes, but no, I, it's besides that, what the

01:10:05.859 --> 01:10:08.359
hell else are you going to do? You know? Yeah.

01:10:08.439 --> 01:10:10.899
I mean, uh, There's really only so much you can

01:10:10.899 --> 01:10:13.100
do without taking out the supply chain overall.

01:10:14.100 --> 01:10:17.579
Yeah. And as long as there is an obscene amount

01:10:17.579 --> 01:10:25.220
of money in play, you know. Or. Yes, tungsten

01:10:25.220 --> 01:10:28.159
rod. Hear me out. We just legalize a lot of drugs

01:10:28.159 --> 01:10:30.000
in the U .S. and don't allow any imports and

01:10:30.000 --> 01:10:32.640
just move all manufacturing over here and have

01:10:32.640 --> 01:10:36.039
them legalized and regulated. Make it cheap.

01:10:36.560 --> 01:10:41.840
Yeah. Well, then we can make our own casino with

01:10:41.840 --> 01:10:44.899
blackjack and hookers. Yes, Bender. Yes. Yes,

01:10:45.500 --> 01:10:49.600
that's the goal. You know, I'm just saying, we

01:10:49.600 --> 01:10:51.399
have enough fucking land. We have enough. We

01:10:51.399 --> 01:10:54.140
need jobs anyway. We need manufacturing. Like,

01:10:54.159 --> 01:10:56.140
as it is, almost all of our medications are made

01:10:56.140 --> 01:10:58.819
overseas anyway. Why'd you say fuck it? Just

01:10:58.819 --> 01:11:01.319
bring it all back to the US. Well, I get high

01:11:01.319 --> 01:11:03.260
with something Chinese made when you can get

01:11:03.260 --> 01:11:05.140
an American brand and know that you won't die

01:11:05.140 --> 01:11:08.539
the first time you take it. I want to snort dubby

01:11:08.539 --> 01:11:18.020
powder now. Oh, my God. That was random. Ultimate

01:11:18.020 --> 01:11:21.560
brand support. Oh, my God. You know, if you start

01:11:21.560 --> 01:11:23.439
showing up to shows with some white powder on

01:11:23.439 --> 01:11:25.920
your nose, act a little fucking. It's blue. It's

01:11:25.920 --> 01:11:28.819
blue. So you're snorting Smurf. Sorry. Fair enough.

01:11:28.960 --> 01:11:38.000
Yes. Oh, no. Stuff in Ohio hit pretty hard. Those

01:11:38.000 --> 01:11:42.319
are the edibles from hell. Jesus. That dude said,

01:11:42.460 --> 01:11:45.979
these are a very good curator. These are very

01:11:45.979 --> 01:11:52.500
good. As in lying. No, it hit harder than Will

01:11:52.500 --> 01:12:01.159
Smith. So, all right. Well, guys, I think a little

01:12:01.159 --> 01:12:06.500
shorter than we intended. Still a good conversation

01:12:06.500 --> 01:12:10.159
on this one tonight. Something different, you

01:12:10.159 --> 01:12:14.340
know. Before we get into anything that's too

01:12:14.340 --> 01:12:19.020
spicy politically. Politically heavy, yeah. Which,

01:12:19.180 --> 01:12:21.979
just a heads up, we will be touching some stuff

01:12:21.979 --> 01:12:28.340
that's going to be kind of later on in the season.

01:12:28.939 --> 01:12:30.800
We're just going to have to make sure that the

01:12:30.800 --> 01:12:32.979
wording and the phrasing that we use is appropriate

01:12:32.979 --> 01:12:37.039
because... The internet likes to really nitpick

01:12:37.039 --> 01:12:39.979
your shit and just, you know, really particular.

01:12:40.760 --> 01:12:43.819
So we're still working on certain words and phrasing

01:12:43.819 --> 01:12:47.560
to describe certain things because still got

01:12:47.560 --> 01:12:49.720
to make it somewhat advertiser friendly. You

01:12:49.720 --> 01:12:53.140
know, it's still somewhat friendly to watch.

01:12:53.880 --> 01:12:55.500
Do you want to have someone listen to this in

01:12:55.500 --> 01:12:57.220
the car driving down the road and listen to something

01:12:57.220 --> 01:12:59.199
like completely out of context being like, what

01:12:59.199 --> 01:13:04.569
the fuck? You know? Yeah. So the best. Are you

01:13:04.569 --> 01:13:08.350
kidding me? While it's not related to the politics

01:13:08.350 --> 01:13:11.430
stuff, there's another podcast I listen to. And

01:13:11.430 --> 01:13:14.869
at one point, they were discussing the existence

01:13:14.869 --> 01:13:20.529
of Bigfoot erotica. And they were reading this

01:13:20.529 --> 01:13:25.170
out on the podcast. And there was a listener

01:13:25.170 --> 01:13:27.829
who had stepped away from his van while this

01:13:27.829 --> 01:13:32.430
was going. and he left the podcast running with

01:13:32.430 --> 01:13:34.670
his van locked up and I guess he had the volume

01:13:34.670 --> 01:13:38.930
way the fuck up the reading of this thing the

01:13:38.930 --> 01:13:43.630
podcast host was like going into it making all

01:13:43.630 --> 01:13:47.310
the fucking noises and shit and he comes back

01:13:47.310 --> 01:13:49.890
out to his van and there was a crowd around the

01:13:49.890 --> 01:13:54.659
van and it's a work van Are they angry or are

01:13:54.659 --> 01:13:57.539
they cheering? They're laughing their asses off,

01:13:57.640 --> 01:14:00.539
standing there in total disbelief, listening

01:14:00.539 --> 01:14:04.140
to this story about a Bigfoot and a dude because

01:14:04.140 --> 01:14:08.420
it was like homoerotic Bigfoot erotica. Oh, my

01:14:08.420 --> 01:14:10.319
God. And it was just like. That just sounds like

01:14:10.319 --> 01:14:11.739
someone that's too scared to come out of the

01:14:11.739 --> 01:14:18.979
closet. Maybe. Or out of the woods. It was exceedingly

01:14:18.979 --> 01:14:23.819
descriptive. and i mean he just going off you

01:14:23.819 --> 01:14:30.619
know and i like the guy's like i had to make

01:14:30.619 --> 01:14:32.979
a choice do i just walk back to my van or walk

01:14:32.979 --> 01:14:38.119
away from it and call it stolen sorry guys that's

01:14:38.119 --> 01:14:43.659
me That was not the topic of discussion today,

01:14:43.800 --> 01:14:46.340
guys. Trust me. That person became a man when

01:14:46.340 --> 01:14:48.220
they were watching Star Wars. I could never think

01:14:48.220 --> 01:14:52.319
of Chewbacca any different. So, you know, two

01:14:52.319 --> 01:14:54.560
quick questions on Chewbacca. One, does Chewbacca

01:14:54.560 --> 01:14:56.779
have two nips, or does he have, like, the line

01:14:56.779 --> 01:14:59.960
just like a dog? And does Chewbacca have a regular

01:14:59.960 --> 01:15:01.779
wiener, or does he have, like, one of those Red

01:15:01.779 --> 01:15:04.500
Rocket deals like a dog? Oh, my God. It's like

01:15:04.500 --> 01:15:07.600
you were just waiting to ask this. How often

01:15:07.600 --> 01:15:10.649
do you think about Chewbacca's wiener? None.

01:15:10.770 --> 01:15:12.609
It just hit me. I don't know. Well, it hit you

01:15:12.609 --> 01:15:15.970
really quick. That's concerning. See, you're

01:15:15.970 --> 01:15:17.510
assuming it's not like a Ducks. It's not like

01:15:17.510 --> 01:15:20.529
a corkscrew one. That's what you're assuming.

01:15:20.710 --> 01:15:24.770
It's a spin me right round, baby. That's why

01:15:24.770 --> 01:15:28.890
the Wookiees have that built in. So you can hear

01:15:28.890 --> 01:15:30.609
it in stereo. It's like going around. It's like

01:15:30.609 --> 01:15:35.310
a rotary cabinet. Jesus Christ. Oh, Jesus. I

01:15:35.310 --> 01:15:37.710
just saw a picture AI generated, of course. A

01:15:37.710 --> 01:15:41.510
shaved Wookiee. Looks like an ape -sized Sphinx

01:15:41.510 --> 01:15:46.569
cat. You know, some weird woman would have that

01:15:46.569 --> 01:15:49.710
as a pet. There's a white woman out there somewhere

01:15:49.710 --> 01:15:53.670
being like, ah, yes. A 500 -pound Sphinx cat.

01:15:53.670 --> 01:15:56.949
And we can't paper train it, so we're going to

01:15:56.949 --> 01:16:02.069
put a tapey on it. Oh, no. I shall call it Mr.

01:16:02.449 --> 01:16:08.340
Bigglesworth. You have been a bad rookie, Mr.

01:16:08.420 --> 01:16:15.000
Bigglesworth. The fleshy clap. Oh, yeah, and

01:16:15.000 --> 01:16:16.899
it's like that character from Zootopia where

01:16:16.899 --> 01:16:18.500
he's got the deep voice, but he looks like a

01:16:18.500 --> 01:16:24.939
little baby with the sucker in it. What? You

01:16:24.939 --> 01:16:27.479
kiss me tomorrow, I'm going to smack you in the

01:16:27.479 --> 01:16:39.109
face. Pineapple juice! Who? I'm so confused that

01:16:39.109 --> 01:16:45.069
there is that somebody makes that erotica. I

01:16:45.069 --> 01:16:48.430
think there was only one issue produced. I'm

01:16:48.430 --> 01:16:50.930
surprised. I'm confused now. You're confused.

01:16:53.389 --> 01:16:57.430
so what's the people we talk with what trauma

01:16:57.430 --> 01:16:59.869
what's the internet rule like rule 43 or something

01:16:59.869 --> 01:17:03.489
like that if it exists 34 yeah 34 if it exists

01:17:03.489 --> 01:17:07.050
there's porn of it so bigfoot exists ergo there

01:17:07.050 --> 01:17:09.350
is porn there's a bigfoot i know i've mentioned

01:17:09.350 --> 01:17:11.430
this before but what combination of trauma gets

01:17:11.430 --> 01:17:15.949
you to chewy or fucking wookie porn What trauma

01:17:15.949 --> 01:17:18.989
gets you to that one? I don't know, but check

01:17:18.989 --> 01:17:22.289
your inbox later. Fuck you. No, don't you dare.

01:17:23.069 --> 01:17:26.770
Don't you dare. No. I know where you live, motherfucker.

01:17:28.069 --> 01:17:31.470
It's a long -ass drive. To get you there is going

01:17:31.470 --> 01:17:35.069
to be, obviously, a lot of medication and a therapy

01:17:35.069 --> 01:17:38.670
bill that's going to be astronomical. How as

01:17:38.670 --> 01:17:40.069
a therapist, how do you take that seriously?

01:17:40.310 --> 01:17:42.630
I have a pretty good poker face when someone

01:17:42.630 --> 01:17:46.649
says, I just can't. stop jacking off to to wookie

01:17:46.649 --> 01:17:49.090
porn i just can't do like how how how do you

01:17:49.090 --> 01:17:51.010
deal with that there's no amount of training

01:17:51.010 --> 01:17:53.850
or education that can prepare you for that moment

01:17:53.850 --> 01:17:55.649
when that client looks like a regular normal

01:17:55.649 --> 01:17:58.310
fucking person sits down takes a deep breath

01:17:58.310 --> 01:18:02.289
goes wookie porn i can't stop thinking about

01:18:02.289 --> 01:18:11.510
wookies there's no there's no It's probably the

01:18:11.510 --> 01:18:13.449
same therapist that has to deal with the person

01:18:13.449 --> 01:18:15.710
that comes in and goes, you know what? I like

01:18:15.710 --> 01:18:19.689
to eat poop. They'd rather take the poop eater.

01:18:20.470 --> 01:18:28.010
Yeah. They probably would. Yeah. I also didn't

01:18:28.010 --> 01:18:31.789
know that was a thing. That's a new... Oh, yeah.

01:18:32.590 --> 01:18:35.050
That's a new horror for you. The Pickle Rick

01:18:35.050 --> 01:18:38.010
episode of Rick and Morty. The therapist was

01:18:38.010 --> 01:18:41.319
first dealing with The one teacher who eats poop.

01:18:41.460 --> 01:18:42.880
I didn't remember that part. Yeah, that's the

01:18:42.880 --> 01:18:46.560
joke. That was the joke, because people do weird

01:18:46.560 --> 01:18:50.819
shit. Jesus. The moment you go behind someone's

01:18:50.819 --> 01:18:53.500
closed door, you find out a lot about them, and

01:18:53.500 --> 01:18:56.100
sometimes it is not good. I thought the woman

01:18:56.100 --> 01:18:58.840
that was eating couches was bad enough, but...

01:18:58.840 --> 01:19:06.220
No. Oh, no, buddy. Oh, it gets worse. I watched

01:19:06.220 --> 01:19:08.640
a dude drink half a gallon of bleach just to

01:19:08.640 --> 01:19:11.760
get out of an arrest. Joke's on him. We still

01:19:11.760 --> 01:19:14.819
arrested him. Yeah, he just gets arrested in

01:19:14.819 --> 01:19:20.119
the hospital. That's right. But I found out what

01:19:20.119 --> 01:19:22.800
a stomach bile inside your stomach looked like

01:19:22.800 --> 01:19:26.619
all mixed with bleach. It's disgusting. I don't

01:19:26.619 --> 01:19:29.479
recommend. So Gibbs, you can add the Wookiee

01:19:29.479 --> 01:19:31.060
porn to your search history of porn and depression.

01:19:31.380 --> 01:19:35.300
Fuck you, no. I never searched that. I don't

01:19:35.300 --> 01:19:38.899
know why it was there. Still to this day. Every

01:19:38.899 --> 01:19:40.140
once in a while that pops in my head going, I

01:19:40.140 --> 01:19:41.500
wonder why that was even in that search bar.

01:19:44.039 --> 01:19:50.800
I could even tell you. Oh, good times. When you

01:19:50.800 --> 01:19:53.439
see an industrial -sized sex swing in someone's

01:19:53.439 --> 01:19:57.220
bedroom, yeah, it's time to go. no no so okay

01:19:57.220 --> 01:20:01.739
i i have the plans to make them and i i want

01:20:01.739 --> 01:20:03.680
to make some of those beds that have like the

01:20:03.680 --> 01:20:07.020
the secret uh handcuff points and chain points

01:20:07.020 --> 01:20:10.819
and the little uh the the stockade footboard

01:20:10.819 --> 01:20:14.119
yeah they make clip -ons you can clip those on

01:20:14.119 --> 01:20:17.239
to your bed frame that's not a get no i want

01:20:17.239 --> 01:20:19.100
to go full board make them industrial grade oh

01:20:19.100 --> 01:20:22.979
fair fair yeah like i was just describing where

01:20:23.420 --> 01:20:25.979
It was a large person who decided they had to

01:20:25.979 --> 01:20:28.960
have a sex queen in the room. It had big chains.

01:20:29.119 --> 01:20:33.779
Yeah. Well, I was not comfortable. I, I am familiar

01:20:33.779 --> 01:20:36.119
with some people who could use industrial beds

01:20:36.119 --> 01:20:39.739
because they like to break them. Hey, so some

01:20:39.739 --> 01:20:42.859
industrial beds could be fun. That's why, especially

01:20:42.859 --> 01:20:45.060
when there's built in accoutrements. That's why

01:20:45.060 --> 01:20:49.840
I have our lessons at the third one. We had learned

01:20:49.840 --> 01:20:53.800
that, you know, maybe. Maybe this is necessary.

01:20:55.520 --> 01:21:00.479
I wasn't trying to point out. I have no shame.

01:21:00.539 --> 01:21:06.760
It was worth it. Let me tell you. You can go

01:21:06.760 --> 01:21:08.840
to a hardware store and add attachments yourself.

01:21:10.300 --> 01:21:13.579
If you need a few C -clamps for your bed every

01:21:13.579 --> 01:21:17.020
once in a while, it's fine. It's okay. Get them

01:21:17.020 --> 01:21:18.500
cheap at Harbor Freight, too. They're worth it.

01:21:19.439 --> 01:21:24.680
Oh, yeah. So now that we've traumatized everybody

01:21:24.680 --> 01:21:27.039
and lost half our listening base, I think we

01:21:27.039 --> 01:21:29.020
can call it for the night. I don't know. I think,

01:21:29.060 --> 01:21:31.239
you know, Wookiee Point would have really had

01:21:31.239 --> 01:21:34.819
a lot of listening retention right there. That's

01:21:34.819 --> 01:21:36.479
going to be a tagline on this one. AI is going

01:21:36.479 --> 01:21:38.439
to look at that and be like, you know, politics,

01:21:38.600 --> 01:21:41.119
drugs, cartels, Wookiee Point. What the fuck?

01:21:44.600 --> 01:21:51.060
Oh, geez. Possible band invader monitoring. Yeah.

01:21:51.119 --> 01:22:00.939
Get rid of them. Okay. So, but we can, uh, we

01:22:00.939 --> 01:22:05.220
can call it there and, uh, thank you guys again

01:22:05.220 --> 01:22:09.500
for listening. Um, again, we'll drop the link

01:22:09.500 --> 01:22:14.659
for Debbie in the, uh, show description as well

01:22:14.659 --> 01:22:18.609
as the. Link for the store there. We're going

01:22:18.609 --> 01:22:21.289
to have our own merch store coming out soon because

01:22:21.289 --> 01:22:23.850
apparently that's a thing that needs to happen.

01:22:23.930 --> 01:22:27.210
I would like to. Everybody does. Yeah. I just

01:22:27.210 --> 01:22:29.529
want to be able to own my own shirt. Fuck yeah.

01:22:29.689 --> 01:22:31.630
Well, I already contacted a company about the

01:22:31.630 --> 01:22:35.569
jerseys for next year. Nice. Nice. I have a buddy

01:22:35.569 --> 01:22:36.890
of mine that does it for his fantasy league.

01:22:38.130 --> 01:22:41.250
At least us three should be able to get our own

01:22:41.250 --> 01:22:44.880
custom jerseys. Oh, nice. Once I get some pricing,

01:22:45.020 --> 01:22:47.619
that's what I'm waiting for. We need those for

01:22:47.619 --> 01:22:55.720
the live show. Yes. Well, yeah. But yeah, I do

01:22:55.720 --> 01:22:58.079
want to start in and get stickers to promote

01:22:58.079 --> 01:23:00.180
the show a little bit more too. So those will

01:23:00.180 --> 01:23:04.979
come out first. Yes. And I think we're going

01:23:04.979 --> 01:23:08.319
to do something akin to like a Patreon or like

01:23:08.319 --> 01:23:13.100
a buy me a coffee type link. And if anybody signs

01:23:13.100 --> 01:23:15.279
up to that or donates, they're going to get a

01:23:15.279 --> 01:23:19.800
sticker sent out to them. Yes. So it'll be something

01:23:19.800 --> 01:23:21.899
along those lines. And we'll give them a shout

01:23:21.899 --> 01:23:26.699
out on the show. Oh, yeah. Something just to

01:23:26.699 --> 01:23:28.359
kind of thank people for the support. Jersey

01:23:28.359 --> 01:23:31.579
taglines. Yeah, that is. WTF is wrong with these

01:23:31.579 --> 01:23:37.939
people. That's pretty good, too. Yeah. But, yeah,

01:23:37.939 --> 01:23:39.619
we'll get to work on some merch stuff and a few

01:23:39.619 --> 01:23:42.399
other things. Especially going into the holidays.

01:23:42.840 --> 01:23:49.020
So now we'll all have some days off. Yes. So,

01:23:49.060 --> 01:23:51.380
yeah. Thanks again for hanging out, guys. Hope

01:23:51.380 --> 01:23:55.439
you've enjoyed the show and are not too traumatized

01:23:55.439 --> 01:23:59.680
by the Wookiee porn. Remember, kids, it's not

01:23:59.680 --> 01:24:03.100
trauma if it's consensual. That's true. That's

01:24:03.100 --> 01:24:08.640
right. So, we'll catch you all again next time.

01:24:09.060 --> 01:24:11.180
And we love you. Thank you.