WEBVTT 00:00:00.040 --> 00:00:03.980 Join us on Now We Consume. Take in the knowledge, 00:00:04.179 --> 00:00:07.280 take in the laughs, indulge in the topics with 00:00:07.280 --> 00:00:10.859 us. The Now We Consume podcast will take you 00:00:10.859 --> 00:00:13.179 through the parts of your day you normally dread. 00:00:13.919 --> 00:00:16.559 Why suffer through the existential crisis of 00:00:16.559 --> 00:00:20.160 life alone when you can do it with us? And now 00:00:20.160 --> 00:00:23.179 we consume. This is not meant to be a conspiracy 00:00:23.179 --> 00:00:25.239 episode or podcast, but we make over some topics 00:00:25.239 --> 00:00:26.500 that dance that line like a toddler dances on 00:00:26.500 --> 00:00:28.820 their mother's last nerve. This podcast is rated 00:00:28.820 --> 00:00:32.219 I. For immature audiences only. Welcome to the 00:00:32.219 --> 00:00:35.259 Now We Consume podcast. I'm your host, Pip. Here, 00:00:35.299 --> 00:00:38.200 as always, with my co -hosts, Gibbs and Gibbles. 00:00:38.920 --> 00:00:43.859 Hello. We are here for a very special episode 00:00:43.859 --> 00:00:47.700 tonight. This is our one -year anniversary show. 00:00:48.320 --> 00:00:51.700 We have been doing this now for a year, more 00:00:51.700 --> 00:00:53.420 or less, since we had to take that little break. 00:00:54.299 --> 00:00:59.070 But one year ago, we took the... We took the 00:00:59.070 --> 00:01:01.710 walk down the path and started this show up, 00:01:01.829 --> 00:01:07.629 and it has been a great experience, and I wouldn't 00:01:07.629 --> 00:01:10.750 have it any other way. So I want to say thank 00:01:10.750 --> 00:01:12.489 you to the people that have supported us this 00:01:12.489 --> 00:01:15.670 far. We literally could not do it without you. 00:01:16.810 --> 00:01:20.510 And here's to several more years, hopefully. 00:01:23.950 --> 00:01:25.930 Gentlemen, any other words you want to throw 00:01:25.930 --> 00:01:28.359 in there? No, it's been fun and traumatizing 00:01:28.359 --> 00:01:36.239 at the same time. I like pie. So before we dive 00:01:36.239 --> 00:01:42.879 into the topic, we did have this episode building 00:01:42.879 --> 00:01:46.400 up for a while. We had been working on some other 00:01:46.400 --> 00:01:51.879 stuff, but life has just been absolutely flashlighting 00:01:51.879 --> 00:01:54.900 us left and right. So the companion video that 00:01:54.900 --> 00:01:57.400 we wanted to do for this episode, Unfortunately, 00:01:57.400 --> 00:02:01.859 just did not make the cut. So we're just going 00:02:01.859 --> 00:02:06.859 to shoot the episode and we'll have some nice 00:02:06.859 --> 00:02:10.680 little video clips to throw in. So if you want 00:02:10.680 --> 00:02:13.960 to catch the video on YouTube, by all means, 00:02:14.080 --> 00:02:17.400 it'll be there for you. We're taking our lessons 00:02:17.400 --> 00:02:20.099 we've learned from that video. We're taking our 00:02:20.099 --> 00:02:21.539 lessons and stuff like that. We're trying to 00:02:21.539 --> 00:02:24.199 apply that to future content. So all that effort 00:02:24.199 --> 00:02:26.259 did not go in vain. We're still working on stuff 00:02:26.259 --> 00:02:27.919 in the background. We've just learned that the 00:02:27.919 --> 00:02:30.800 image and what we had in our heads is going to 00:02:30.800 --> 00:02:33.699 require more work than we originally anticipated. 00:02:34.439 --> 00:02:36.259 And so we're trying to redouble our efforts to 00:02:36.259 --> 00:02:38.099 make sure that what we do produce is going to 00:02:38.099 --> 00:02:42.560 be of quality. Right. Which, if you guys have 00:02:42.560 --> 00:02:45.319 seen the advertisements lately, you've seen that 00:02:45.319 --> 00:02:48.840 I've been using the AI -generated stuff to animate 00:02:48.840 --> 00:02:55.439 Mansley, our mascot there. I think they've been 00:02:55.439 --> 00:02:59.639 looking better. I've been enjoying putting him 00:02:59.639 --> 00:03:02.439 in different situations and whatnot. So it's 00:03:02.439 --> 00:03:04.580 coming along. So we're just going to keep building 00:03:04.580 --> 00:03:09.560 on that. But two little bits of news that I wanted 00:03:09.560 --> 00:03:12.960 to share. First off, our last episode, we mentioned 00:03:12.960 --> 00:03:18.879 a partnership or a sponsorship, rather. W Energy 00:03:18.879 --> 00:03:25.080 has agreed to sponsor us. They are obviously 00:03:25.080 --> 00:03:27.900 an energy drink company and we did not want to 00:03:27.900 --> 00:03:31.139 agree to do the sponsorship until we had tried 00:03:31.139 --> 00:03:34.479 them. These two are still waiting on their stuff. 00:03:34.599 --> 00:03:37.199 I got mine earlier and I've been trying it all 00:03:37.199 --> 00:03:41.280 week. This stuff honestly tastes like Kool -Aid. 00:03:41.900 --> 00:03:46.659 I did not want to like it as much as I did. And 00:03:46.659 --> 00:03:50.740 real quick. Yes. Are we talking Kool -Aid from 00:03:50.740 --> 00:03:53.500 up north? Are we talking? southern kool -aid 00:03:53.500 --> 00:03:57.860 i'm going to say like the the the mason dixon 00:03:57.860 --> 00:04:00.460 on kool -aid because it's it's really good but 00:04:00.460 --> 00:04:03.960 it's sugar -free so i don't know oh well then 00:04:03.960 --> 00:04:06.080 it'd be more northern northern kool -aid dan 00:04:06.080 --> 00:04:08.400 yeah because the stuff down south you won't have 00:04:08.400 --> 00:04:13.120 diabetes yes but i'm a caffeine whore and this 00:04:13.120 --> 00:04:16.040 stuff has been working quite well so as of right 00:04:16.040 --> 00:04:19.579 now we do have a code consume 10 we'll get you 00:04:19.579 --> 00:04:22.350 10 off Uh, if, if you're catching the episode 00:04:22.350 --> 00:04:24.610 right now and you want a little extra for the 00:04:24.610 --> 00:04:27.129 rest of the night, uh, it'll get you 30 % off. 00:04:27.430 --> 00:04:30.569 But after tonight, uh, into December, it's back 00:04:30.569 --> 00:04:33.870 down to 10%. So, you know, help yourself, uh, 00:04:33.970 --> 00:04:36.009 give the stuff a try. They've got lots of different 00:04:36.009 --> 00:04:38.470 flavors and they have sample packs. So go for 00:04:38.470 --> 00:04:43.949 it. Uh, secondarily, our live show, uh, if you 00:04:43.949 --> 00:04:45.850 haven't caught towards the end of the last couple 00:04:45.850 --> 00:04:48.449 of episodes, we've been discussing, we have a 00:04:48.449 --> 00:04:52.519 live show coming up. Towards the end of summer, 00:04:52.600 --> 00:04:55.199 it'll be Labor Day weekend. It's looking like 00:04:55.199 --> 00:04:59.759 it'll be here in Lancaster, Ohio. And we're still 00:04:59.759 --> 00:05:01.480 working on all the details, but as they come 00:05:01.480 --> 00:05:04.740 out, we will be bringing those details to you. 00:05:05.339 --> 00:05:11.420 So once that is more solidified and more concrete, 00:05:11.639 --> 00:05:14.500 we'll get those details out to you guys. But 00:05:14.500 --> 00:05:22.500 it should be a lot of fun. So now tonight's episode, 00:05:22.680 --> 00:05:27.740 the implications of time travel on society. This 00:05:27.740 --> 00:05:31.579 is something that we have been wanting to do 00:05:31.579 --> 00:05:34.339 for, oh my God, so long. This was in our first 00:05:34.339 --> 00:05:37.180 season to do, and we wanted to hold off on doing 00:05:37.180 --> 00:05:40.660 it until we had the time to get it right and 00:05:40.660 --> 00:05:46.040 do it well. So. We're going to go down a few 00:05:46.040 --> 00:05:49.180 different routes and we're going to cover a few 00:05:49.180 --> 00:05:53.100 different levels of this. Everything from Time 00:05:53.100 --> 00:05:56.439 Cop, Futurama, and even the Marvel Cinematic 00:05:56.439 --> 00:05:59.779 Universe, the multiverse, because they're all 00:05:59.779 --> 00:06:03.160 relevant. They all kind of touch tips on a lot 00:06:03.160 --> 00:06:07.060 of things and they bring up a lot of different 00:06:07.060 --> 00:06:12.199 viewpoints. So Gibbs, you were talking about 00:06:12.199 --> 00:06:15.079 something the other day that. Or maybe it was 00:06:15.079 --> 00:06:19.819 Gibbles. I don't remember. That had. Oh, it was 00:06:19.819 --> 00:06:21.660 Back to the Future. So Gibbles. It was Gibbles. 00:06:21.740 --> 00:06:25.199 Yes. Yeah, that would be me. Yeah. Yep. You were 00:06:25.199 --> 00:06:27.720 saying that Back to the Future is more along 00:06:27.720 --> 00:06:33.439 the lines of the MCU. Well, it depends on how 00:06:33.439 --> 00:06:38.079 you looked at it. Because not from. The fact 00:06:38.079 --> 00:06:41.639 of how they showed the timeline for like, you 00:06:41.639 --> 00:06:44.680 know, the sacred timeline. And then you get the 00:06:44.680 --> 00:06:47.600 explanation back to the future of when they're 00:06:47.600 --> 00:06:49.459 back in the 80s and they're trying to get back 00:06:49.459 --> 00:06:53.060 to the present. And, you know, they show that 00:06:53.060 --> 00:06:56.259 just in the same way, you have the main timeline 00:06:56.259 --> 00:06:59.459 going and then you have branches. And if you 00:06:59.459 --> 00:07:01.459 end up in one of those branches, of course, now 00:07:01.459 --> 00:07:04.139 good luck getting back to the present where you 00:07:04.139 --> 00:07:07.220 were starting because you changed something in 00:07:07.220 --> 00:07:12.910 the past. So now that branch is created. okay 00:07:12.910 --> 00:07:15.050 that's what i was saying they were more similar 00:07:15.050 --> 00:07:17.829 so yeah i i get what you're saying so that's 00:07:17.829 --> 00:07:20.629 like the the prime timeline of the sacred timeline 00:07:20.629 --> 00:07:26.209 okay to me that still seems like multiverse theory 00:07:26.209 --> 00:07:30.850 where whatever you do there just creates a different 00:07:30.850 --> 00:07:34.329 shoot and it's no longer the the sacred timeline 00:07:34.329 --> 00:07:38.149 that you're in it's going to be a different universe 00:07:38.149 --> 00:07:42.420 altogether so And that's not unlike Rick and 00:07:42.420 --> 00:07:45.759 Morty, which is another series that we're going 00:07:45.759 --> 00:07:49.019 to talk about because that also has some very 00:07:49.019 --> 00:07:58.779 unique concepts. But one issue with time travel, 00:07:58.899 --> 00:08:01.019 and it's probably one of the more important ones, 00:08:01.060 --> 00:08:03.259 so we wanted to bring it up first, the grandfather 00:08:03.259 --> 00:08:11.139 paradox, and that's causality. grandparents from 00:08:11.139 --> 00:08:13.920 meeting how could you have been born to travel 00:08:13.920 --> 00:08:16.839 back in time in the first place now there is 00:08:16.839 --> 00:08:21.160 one caveat as seen in futurama if you accidentally 00:08:21.160 --> 00:08:23.319 kill the man that you once knew was your grandfather 00:08:23.319 --> 00:08:26.899 sleep with the person who would have been your 00:08:26.899 --> 00:08:29.160 grandmother because since that's no longer going 00:08:29.160 --> 00:08:31.120 to happen and you're just fucked up enough of 00:08:31.120 --> 00:08:35.279 a person to do it for science and end up becoming 00:08:35.279 --> 00:08:42.820 your own grandfather in the process So there 00:08:42.820 --> 00:08:49.379 is that option, and I don't know that that is 00:08:49.379 --> 00:08:53.419 something that happens. Time may want to happen, 00:08:53.519 --> 00:08:55.080 and that's a theory that we'll talk about later, 00:08:55.200 --> 00:09:00.340 but you've got to be very stupid, very fucked 00:09:00.340 --> 00:09:03.779 up, and very depraved to go down that rabbit 00:09:03.779 --> 00:09:09.440 hole. Gibbs, you looked like you had a thought. 00:09:13.499 --> 00:09:16.080 Well, I do have a couple of different thoughts 00:09:16.080 --> 00:09:21.720 with this. It really depends on what, man, I 00:09:21.720 --> 00:09:24.480 guess, okay, okay, to get into it. It's one of 00:09:24.480 --> 00:09:27.460 those things where it really does depend on if 00:09:27.460 --> 00:09:29.659 a multiversal theory, number one, is even possible, 00:09:29.919 --> 00:09:32.440 because we don't have any evidence of that. There 00:09:32.440 --> 00:09:35.240 is no way of describing that or even knowing 00:09:35.240 --> 00:09:38.970 if that's true. So if that is true. Then that's 00:09:38.970 --> 00:09:40.629 something we could we could go down that rabbit 00:09:40.629 --> 00:09:46.009 hole. But in terms of making it so that that 00:09:46.009 --> 00:09:49.990 is possible, I would figure this is something 00:09:49.990 --> 00:09:53.230 that would have been documented before. If it's 00:09:53.230 --> 00:09:54.669 something that theoretically could happen, let's 00:09:54.669 --> 00:09:56.370 just say that you could go back in time and alter 00:09:56.370 --> 00:10:00.269 history. That's something that I think we would 00:10:00.269 --> 00:10:02.870 have seen discrepancies in history because in 00:10:02.870 --> 00:10:04.710 order for that to be physically possible, it 00:10:04.710 --> 00:10:05.889 would have happened in the future and it would 00:10:05.889 --> 00:10:08.450 have affected now. because we're at such a critical 00:10:08.450 --> 00:10:11.110 point in our development so it's one of those 00:10:11.110 --> 00:10:14.230 things where sure it's technically possible but 00:10:14.230 --> 00:10:17.169 i think we would have seen it or at least we've 00:10:17.169 --> 00:10:20.330 seen evidence of it at this point well so that 00:10:20.330 --> 00:10:22.389 that brings up a thing that we're going to talk 00:10:22.389 --> 00:10:27.149 about later with time travel if if someone goes 00:10:27.149 --> 00:10:29.809 in and starts like snipping little things yeah 00:10:29.809 --> 00:10:34.529 would we ever notice it would those changes affect 00:10:34.529 --> 00:10:40.059 time in a manner that we would In reality, notice. 00:10:40.659 --> 00:10:43.919 Since the invention of the internet, yes. But 00:10:43.919 --> 00:10:46.220 wouldn't it affect everything after the change? 00:10:47.059 --> 00:10:50.779 No, because it's so well documented. But wouldn't 00:10:50.779 --> 00:10:55.519 it affect the documentation? Not always. Then 00:10:55.519 --> 00:10:58.220 the assumption would be is that you would have 00:10:58.220 --> 00:11:01.320 to alter people's memories. Effectively, that 00:11:01.320 --> 00:11:03.019 those memories would never happen. But because 00:11:03.019 --> 00:11:04.879 you can't go back in time and replace those memories. 00:11:06.330 --> 00:11:08.129 That's why I think the Mandela effect, people 00:11:08.129 --> 00:11:10.850 have argued that's proof of the existence of 00:11:10.850 --> 00:11:16.649 time travel. That's fair. I like that. It's possible, 00:11:16.669 --> 00:11:19.690 I guess, but come on. Let's be real. If there 00:11:19.690 --> 00:11:21.590 was a government that figured out a way to time 00:11:21.590 --> 00:11:24.850 travel, I don't think any of the shit from the 00:11:24.850 --> 00:11:26.870 last 15, 20 years would have been happening. 00:11:27.669 --> 00:11:29.129 I don't think that would have been allowed at 00:11:29.129 --> 00:11:33.389 all. Or the opposite. Maybe it happened because 00:11:33.389 --> 00:11:38.110 of time travelers. Maybe they did it to keep 00:11:38.110 --> 00:11:42.529 other things from happening. That's an even worse 00:11:42.529 --> 00:11:46.450 scenario, honestly. Jesus Christ. Why does it 00:11:46.450 --> 00:11:48.389 just always devolve back into AI is going to 00:11:48.389 --> 00:11:49.730 doom us? Because AI is going to be the thing 00:11:49.730 --> 00:11:52.029 that figures out time travel. Oh, you know it. 00:11:52.269 --> 00:11:55.850 You know it, 100%. That's why Harambe had to 00:11:55.850 --> 00:11:58.610 die, I guess. Yep, it all circles back to Harambe. 00:11:59.830 --> 00:12:05.470 Dicks out for Harambe, gentlemen. We're all under 00:12:05.470 --> 00:12:10.269 a desk. The camera can never see. Fair. So the 00:12:10.269 --> 00:12:15.529 Novikov self -consistency principle is something 00:12:15.529 --> 00:12:19.029 that dictates everything a time traveler does 00:12:19.029 --> 00:12:21.669 must already be a part of the historical timeline. 00:12:22.230 --> 00:12:27.210 Therefore, changes are impossible. So you cannot 00:12:27.210 --> 00:12:30.470 make a change to the timeline because that change 00:12:30.470 --> 00:12:33.129 was supposed to be made. So you were supposed 00:12:33.129 --> 00:12:37.009 to go back and make that change. Ergo, you didn't 00:12:37.009 --> 00:12:40.590 change anything. But that's assuming multiversal 00:12:40.590 --> 00:12:43.809 theory isn't a reality. Correct. That's assuming 00:12:43.809 --> 00:12:48.389 a prime timeline. I guess multiversal theory 00:12:48.389 --> 00:12:51.909 does hinge on the idea of free thought and will. 00:12:52.389 --> 00:12:54.309 So it's one of those things where if you don't 00:12:54.309 --> 00:12:56.029 believe humans have free thought and will and 00:12:56.029 --> 00:12:58.490 can change, then technically multiversal theory 00:12:58.490 --> 00:13:01.299 doesn't have to exist. in a world where at least 00:13:01.299 --> 00:13:03.799 i guess i go from the perspective of you do have 00:13:03.799 --> 00:13:05.840 free thought and will and you can make your own 00:13:05.840 --> 00:13:07.679 decisions regardless of the environment around 00:13:07.679 --> 00:13:11.480 you and past history so therefore i guess multiversal 00:13:11.480 --> 00:13:15.620 theory does have to exist but boy to be able 00:13:15.620 --> 00:13:17.659 to say that oh yeah you can go back in time and 00:13:17.659 --> 00:13:20.580 change anything that that's all part of it i 00:13:20.580 --> 00:13:23.340 don't know i i don't think i don't think there's 00:13:23.340 --> 00:13:27.350 any way to account for that Yeah. I don't think 00:13:27.350 --> 00:13:30.070 that there's any way you could mathematically, 00:13:30.190 --> 00:13:35.370 scientifically know. Unless unless, you know, 00:13:35.370 --> 00:13:37.009 there's some sort of hitman out there that's 00:13:37.009 --> 00:13:39.250 that's dropping the Hollywood elites by like 00:13:39.250 --> 00:13:41.370 left and right out of nowhere. You know that 00:13:41.370 --> 00:13:43.110 the Clintons have a time traveling machine and 00:13:43.110 --> 00:13:44.629 that's why people just suddenly end up dead. 00:13:45.149 --> 00:13:47.330 Right. I don't know. Maybe they figured it out. 00:13:47.409 --> 00:13:54.539 One. Yeah. So. There's the issue of meeting yourself, 00:13:54.840 --> 00:13:59.720 the temporal clones. And the issue comes into 00:13:59.720 --> 00:14:03.059 the time cop rule. If two versions of the same 00:14:03.059 --> 00:14:06.220 matter, you being from timeline one and you from 00:14:06.220 --> 00:14:09.899 timeline two, occupy the same space, they may 00:14:09.899 --> 00:14:13.899 annihilate each other. That's quantum entanglement. 00:14:14.820 --> 00:14:18.960 Or a version of quantum entanglement. Or what 00:14:18.960 --> 00:14:22.669 if you just turn into some weird goo? Yeah, that's 00:14:22.669 --> 00:14:26.269 another possibility. So the existential crisis 00:14:26.269 --> 00:14:29.250 on that one is going to be, what is the legal 00:14:29.250 --> 00:14:32.610 or moral status of a past self? If you meet your 00:14:32.610 --> 00:14:35.769 10 or 15 -year -old self, do you have a right 00:14:35.769 --> 00:14:39.149 to intervene in their or your life or destiny? 00:14:39.450 --> 00:14:42.610 Yes. You know, it's red pill, blue pill. Do you 00:14:42.610 --> 00:14:47.429 have the right to go back and say, hey, here's 00:14:47.429 --> 00:14:50.839 information that will drastically alter? Your 00:14:50.839 --> 00:14:54.659 our life. And I need you to do something with 00:14:54.659 --> 00:14:58.980 this information. I mean, it's just yourself. 00:14:59.000 --> 00:15:02.720 So, yeah. Well, even even if let's just say theoretically 00:15:02.720 --> 00:15:06.120 went back to the 1920s and gave them like nuclear 00:15:06.120 --> 00:15:10.019 power 30, 40 years before it was able. You don't 00:15:10.019 --> 00:15:12.100 know whether morality like the moral clause of 00:15:12.100 --> 00:15:14.220 it's going to be good or bad. You can't assign 00:15:14.220 --> 00:15:16.460 that in terms of like if you look at a timeline. 00:15:17.389 --> 00:15:20.169 There are almost. OK, I don't want people to 00:15:20.169 --> 00:15:22.250 take this out of context because I need people 00:15:22.250 --> 00:15:23.629 to understand the context of the discussion. 00:15:24.210 --> 00:15:26.409 Technically, morality does not exist. We talk 00:15:26.409 --> 00:15:29.210 about a timeline of events with things just happening. 00:15:29.830 --> 00:15:31.610 Therefore, if you get people, let's just say 00:15:31.610 --> 00:15:34.690 technology or information, there is no like right 00:15:34.690 --> 00:15:36.730 or wrong. There is no like that's morally good 00:15:36.730 --> 00:15:38.929 or not good. It's what they do with that information 00:15:38.929 --> 00:15:43.570 that matters. So. You could theoretically give 00:15:43.570 --> 00:15:45.570 yourself any information you want. It's not necessarily 00:15:45.570 --> 00:15:49.750 a morally good or bad thing. Should you? Depends. 00:15:50.350 --> 00:15:52.509 You know, like put it this way. I'm pretty sure 00:15:52.509 --> 00:15:54.029 a lot of people would really appreciate it if 00:15:54.029 --> 00:15:58.649 like, you know, August of 2001, you kind of told 00:15:58.649 --> 00:16:00.629 them, hey, you know, stay the fuck away from 00:16:00.629 --> 00:16:02.049 the Twin Towers. That would probably be nice. 00:16:02.450 --> 00:16:04.110 People would say, thank you. I appreciate that. 00:16:04.490 --> 00:16:07.009 You know, not that the government already know, 00:16:07.110 --> 00:16:09.269 but that's beside the point. Or counter to that. 00:16:09.720 --> 00:16:11.700 you have someone that you really don't like and 00:16:11.700 --> 00:16:13.559 you arrange a meeting at the top of that tower 00:16:13.559 --> 00:16:16.480 on on that day yeah it's weird for some reason 00:16:16.480 --> 00:16:18.120 every person at the towers was this guy called 00:16:18.120 --> 00:16:21.600 jeffrey epstein i don't know why it's just magically 00:16:21.600 --> 00:16:27.399 i don't know how it's crazy yeah that was exactly 00:16:27.399 --> 00:16:29.320 my very first thought as soon as you mentioned 00:16:29.320 --> 00:16:33.059 i'm like man jeffrey he's going upstairs jeffrey 00:16:33.059 --> 00:16:35.960 and and and uh hillary and bill you know all 00:16:35.960 --> 00:16:39.409 three of them Yeah, maybe some Bill Cosby to 00:16:39.409 --> 00:16:42.049 round it out. Yeah, Bill Cosby and Diddy. They're 00:16:42.049 --> 00:16:43.350 all having a weird Diddy party at the top of 00:16:43.350 --> 00:16:46.009 the tower. We don't know why. That's weird. There's 00:16:46.009 --> 00:16:47.809 five people and five tons of baby oil at the 00:16:47.809 --> 00:16:50.529 top of the Twin Towers. I don't know why. Yeah, 00:16:50.629 --> 00:16:52.450 the planes wouldn't crash. They'd just slip right 00:16:52.450 --> 00:16:57.330 on through. What if you had to be a family guy 00:16:57.330 --> 00:16:59.309 skit of a plane going through the tower? I was 00:16:59.309 --> 00:17:00.950 just like, just scooch it out of here. Just, 00:17:00.970 --> 00:17:05.970 you know, just wiggling through. So here's a 00:17:05.970 --> 00:17:10.589 question for you guys and listeners too. If you 00:17:10.589 --> 00:17:13.029 could give your past self winning lottery numbers, 00:17:13.250 --> 00:17:16.329 would that create wealth or simply transfer it 00:17:16.329 --> 00:17:18.349 from someone else causing an economic ripple 00:17:18.349 --> 00:17:23.329 effect? The winnings that someone obtained may 00:17:23.329 --> 00:17:27.329 have been supposed to go towards the development 00:17:27.329 --> 00:17:30.410 of some mega technology that would have revolutionized 00:17:30.410 --> 00:17:33.369 the world. Those winnings instead ended up in 00:17:33.369 --> 00:17:38.220 your bank account. So maybe somebody that was, 00:17:38.220 --> 00:17:41.240 you know, like an Elon Musk level of developer 00:17:41.240 --> 00:17:44.619 was supposed to win that. But instead, you made 00:17:44.619 --> 00:17:47.819 yourself win it. And that life changing technology 00:17:47.819 --> 00:17:51.319 was never developed. So besides the fact that 00:17:51.319 --> 00:17:53.599 half the time the lotteries are rigged as it 00:17:53.599 --> 00:17:56.920 is, and that happens a lot. California. The idea 00:17:56.920 --> 00:18:00.640 that you're. Yeah. The idea that anybody that's 00:18:00.640 --> 00:18:03.710 actually smart enough. to do something like that 00:18:03.710 --> 00:18:08.109 would win the lottery? Not likely. You're more 00:18:08.109 --> 00:18:10.289 likely going to be taking the money out of somebody 00:18:10.289 --> 00:18:13.950 that has none, that's devoted a stupid amount 00:18:13.950 --> 00:18:16.950 of cash trying to win that. And if nothing else, 00:18:17.230 --> 00:18:19.529 it depends on the lottery you're talking about. 00:18:19.589 --> 00:18:21.150 Because if you're talking like Powerball and 00:18:21.150 --> 00:18:23.670 Mega Millions, they're just not going to get 00:18:23.670 --> 00:18:27.769 as much. Right. Well, okay, so that's just like 00:18:27.769 --> 00:18:31.789 an example of it. What about other market manipulation 00:18:31.789 --> 00:18:36.150 cause and effect instances? Could have butterfly 00:18:36.150 --> 00:18:38.210 effect consequences. You know what, though? If 00:18:38.210 --> 00:18:40.349 you're smart, what you do is you invest in stuff 00:18:40.349 --> 00:18:42.349 way early on when they're like penny stocks, 00:18:42.589 --> 00:18:44.869 and you just basically make a list, and that 00:18:44.869 --> 00:18:46.369 way no one will ever know. No one's affected. 00:18:47.089 --> 00:18:48.829 No one will understand. Nobody will know that 00:18:48.829 --> 00:18:52.369 you bought an Amazon at $5 a share, and you sell 00:18:52.369 --> 00:18:54.150 it. What is it up to now? Like thousands, tens 00:18:54.150 --> 00:18:57.049 of thousands, whatever? Or same thing with Apple, 00:18:57.609 --> 00:19:01.420 Bitcoin. dogecoin you know if you did it early 00:19:01.420 --> 00:19:04.019 enough you did it smart you could do it so no 00:19:04.019 --> 00:19:05.960 one's negatively affected or adversely affected 00:19:05.960 --> 00:19:08.700 especially we do something smart like you make 00:19:08.700 --> 00:19:11.079 an llc or a trust you make an investment llc 00:19:11.079 --> 00:19:12.980 with that a company a shell company everything 00:19:12.980 --> 00:19:15.279 else that way no one has to know who you are 00:19:15.279 --> 00:19:18.000 no one has to know where the money's going they 00:19:18.000 --> 00:19:20.539 just kind of keep it on the down low but i i 00:19:20.539 --> 00:19:22.140 do agree that technically there is that chance 00:19:22.140 --> 00:19:23.759 that oh yeah you could be theoretically pulling 00:19:23.759 --> 00:19:25.480 money from someone else in the system that could 00:19:25.480 --> 00:19:28.829 be doing good with it But if you do it in a smart 00:19:28.829 --> 00:19:30.430 way, it doesn't have to be. Just because you're 00:19:30.430 --> 00:19:31.769 making money doesn't mean you take money away 00:19:31.769 --> 00:19:34.329 from somebody else. That's not the case. Now, 00:19:34.329 --> 00:19:37.089 you bring up Bitcoin. That brings up something. 00:19:37.210 --> 00:19:40.250 There are a limited amount of Bitcoin in circulation. 00:19:41.109 --> 00:19:44.329 If you go too big, because back in the day, Bitcoin 00:19:44.329 --> 00:19:48.230 was practically worthless. Could you destabilize 00:19:48.230 --> 00:19:51.190 the currency early on and prevent Bitcoin from 00:19:51.190 --> 00:19:54.250 rising to where it's at? I don't think so. Because 00:19:54.250 --> 00:19:56.049 think about this. But you don't need to buy that 00:19:56.049 --> 00:19:58.200 many of them. Like, think about this. Like, imagine 00:19:58.200 --> 00:20:00.420 if you bought 10 ,000 Bitcoin when they were 00:20:00.420 --> 00:20:03.579 like a nickel each and just sat on them. When 00:20:03.579 --> 00:20:05.599 they were first out there, 10 ,000 wasn't like 00:20:05.599 --> 00:20:08.000 a big share of all of them. Even if you bought 00:20:08.000 --> 00:20:10.539 1 ,000 of them and just waited until they hit 00:20:10.539 --> 00:20:13.859 what hit like 120 ,000 the other day each. That's 00:20:13.859 --> 00:20:16.539 there you go. Last month. Yeah. Yeah. There you 00:20:16.539 --> 00:20:19.799 go. That is generational wealth created by buying 00:20:19.799 --> 00:20:23.039 a tenth of a tenth of a tenth of all of them 00:20:23.039 --> 00:20:25.039 that were created and available at that time. 00:20:25.420 --> 00:20:28.000 Like it's not like an office space. You get the 00:20:28.000 --> 00:20:31.339 rounded up. Yeah, it's like office space. You 00:20:31.339 --> 00:20:33.920 just round up the penny. Yeah, you know, it's 00:20:33.920 --> 00:20:36.500 you take and take that same thing as well. There's 00:20:36.500 --> 00:20:38.339 so many other ones like Ethereum, Doge and a 00:20:38.339 --> 00:20:40.420 few other ones that if you had bought an early 00:20:40.420 --> 00:20:43.619 enough on and just did that same process by the 00:20:43.619 --> 00:20:45.420 time like for instance, if it's right now 2025 00:20:45.420 --> 00:20:48.799 and you just had sold all that Bitcoin at a good 00:20:48.799 --> 00:20:51.319 high like that, you then have so much capital 00:20:51.319 --> 00:20:53.640 at that point. You can then keep doing whatever 00:20:53.640 --> 00:20:55.740 you want. But if Before then, if you had been 00:20:55.740 --> 00:20:58.000 investing in other stuff as well, hey, $1 ,000 00:20:58.000 --> 00:21:01.579 there, $500 there, $300 there, whatever, you'd 00:21:01.579 --> 00:21:03.960 be all set and no one would know. It's not like 00:21:03.960 --> 00:21:05.359 you have to buy a bunch of capital of it. It's 00:21:05.359 --> 00:21:08.259 not like you have to buy Microsoft in like 1991 00:21:08.259 --> 00:21:11.579 and buy like 30 % of it for $10 ,000. That's 00:21:11.579 --> 00:21:13.099 not, you know what I mean? Don't get me wrong. 00:21:13.140 --> 00:21:16.019 If you can do that, do that. If you somehow can 00:21:16.019 --> 00:21:21.819 manage to do that, please. Yeah. Other commodities 00:21:21.819 --> 00:21:27.849 and goods too. Oil, gold, silver, you know. Yeah. 00:21:28.589 --> 00:21:32.609 But yeah, that kind of leads us into the multiverse 00:21:32.609 --> 00:21:36.230 and timeline mechanics, the MCU and Rick and 00:21:36.230 --> 00:21:40.250 Morty model. The split timeline branching model 00:21:40.250 --> 00:21:45.230 is what is used in the MCU. So when a person 00:21:45.230 --> 00:21:47.650 makes a significant change in the past, it doesn't 00:21:47.650 --> 00:21:49.869 alter their original future. It just creates 00:21:49.869 --> 00:21:52.329 a brand new alternate reality or a branch timeline. 00:21:52.990 --> 00:21:55.589 uh the original timeline remains intact that's 00:21:55.589 --> 00:21:58.309 why it is the sacred timeline it can never be 00:21:58.309 --> 00:22:03.029 changed well uh maybe it's the case of it's i 00:22:03.029 --> 00:22:05.130 guess maybe we look at it's not that it's never 00:22:05.130 --> 00:22:07.630 changed is that that is the best reference you 00:22:07.630 --> 00:22:11.250 have that's like your reference timeline because 00:22:11.250 --> 00:22:13.710 that's your that's your original save point for 00:22:13.710 --> 00:22:16.299 all the changes that get made yes because it 00:22:16.299 --> 00:22:18.599 does get change it's just that change the change 00:22:18.599 --> 00:22:20.259 is supposed to happen with that was everything 00:22:20.259 --> 00:22:22.980 else is a change that was altered externally 00:22:22.980 --> 00:22:26.920 yeah think think of it as a tree that's the main 00:22:26.920 --> 00:22:30.279 trunk yeah any change that gets made to the the 00:22:30.279 --> 00:22:33.160 sacred timeline the main timeline that's where 00:22:33.160 --> 00:22:35.619 the branch begins i'm trying to make sure we 00:22:35.619 --> 00:22:37.160 flesh this out for people that have not seen 00:22:37.160 --> 00:22:40.400 loki are not familiar yeah so if you go back 00:22:40.400 --> 00:22:43.000 in time you can go back to any point in the main 00:22:43.000 --> 00:22:45.920 timeline And then you can make a change there 00:22:45.920 --> 00:22:50.220 and it creates a new reality from that point 00:22:50.220 --> 00:22:54.160 on the main timeline. Right. And the catch there 00:22:54.160 --> 00:22:55.980 to understand is it doesn't matter the size of 00:22:55.980 --> 00:23:00.799 the change. It is basically any change from that 00:23:00.799 --> 00:23:04.240 main timeline dictates a branch reality. And 00:23:04.240 --> 00:23:05.700 then from there, you can make further changes 00:23:05.700 --> 00:23:07.559 and make further branches. It could theoretically 00:23:07.559 --> 00:23:10.400 go into an infinium, you know, infinite amount 00:23:10.400 --> 00:23:13.750 of branches theoretically. So just so people 00:23:13.750 --> 00:23:16.230 are aware of what we're talking about. Yeah. 00:23:16.390 --> 00:23:22.750 Time is fun. It will break your brain. The burden 00:23:22.750 --> 00:23:24.990 of responsibility falls on the time traveler 00:23:24.990 --> 00:23:28.450 because the time traveler is no longer just responsible 00:23:28.450 --> 00:23:31.410 for their own history, but for the creation and 00:23:31.410 --> 00:23:35.069 potentially destruction of entire parallel universes. 00:23:36.589 --> 00:23:40.109 It may require the formation of temporal police, 00:23:40.210 --> 00:23:43.890 much like the TVA and Loki, to prune or manage 00:23:43.890 --> 00:23:46.289 these branching realities. If there are such 00:23:46.289 --> 00:23:50.109 minor alterations that it actually has no major 00:23:50.109 --> 00:23:53.829 impact, does that reality need to exist? Or could 00:23:53.829 --> 00:23:58.309 it just pollute the time -space continuum, essentially, 00:23:58.450 --> 00:24:02.009 of timelines? So let me give you something that'll 00:24:02.009 --> 00:24:05.069 really bake your noodle. Yes, do it. If you create 00:24:05.069 --> 00:24:08.190 a timeline. Bake me, daddy. I don't like how 00:24:08.190 --> 00:24:09.710 you said that. We're going to ignore that one. 00:24:11.369 --> 00:24:14.069 Imagine if you create a timeline with the sole 00:24:14.069 --> 00:24:16.089 purpose of stealing their resources. Take it 00:24:16.089 --> 00:24:18.789 back to your timeline and then destroy it. Did 00:24:18.789 --> 00:24:22.349 anyone ever suffer? It never existed. No suffering 00:24:22.349 --> 00:24:25.549 ever happened. Theoretically, hear me out with 00:24:25.549 --> 00:24:27.450 this. If you were smart and you were able to 00:24:27.450 --> 00:24:29.849 create parallel timelines, you can go there. 00:24:30.450 --> 00:24:32.289 Theoretically, you can go to an infinite amount 00:24:32.289 --> 00:24:34.569 of Fort Knox's, steal an infinite amount of gold, 00:24:34.710 --> 00:24:37.910 come back, and then just say, yes, somehow I'm 00:24:37.910 --> 00:24:40.660 the gold king. Somehow I have an entire... fucking 00:24:40.660 --> 00:24:42.779 Mount Everest of gold, and you can't have it. 00:24:42.819 --> 00:24:46.220 But then the question is going to remain, when 00:24:46.220 --> 00:24:49.539 you destroy that reality, are you destroying 00:24:49.539 --> 00:24:52.000 it at the moment that you took the gold, or are 00:24:52.000 --> 00:24:54.319 you destroying it at the moment of its creation? 00:24:54.480 --> 00:24:57.880 Because I would think if you're destroying it 00:24:57.880 --> 00:24:59.759 at the time of creation, that negates the whole 00:24:59.759 --> 00:25:01.900 idea that whatever you got from that timeline, 00:25:02.119 --> 00:25:04.599 since it no longer exists, I would imagine anything 00:25:04.599 --> 00:25:06.500 from that timeline would no longer exist. But 00:25:06.500 --> 00:25:08.319 it now exists in your timeline, because you brought 00:25:08.319 --> 00:25:11.420 it back to yours. Well, now you're creating a 00:25:11.420 --> 00:25:15.700 paradox. Because if that timeline never existed, 00:25:15.859 --> 00:25:18.079 because now you've destroyed it and it's never 00:25:18.079 --> 00:25:20.859 existed, how could you have those things? So 00:25:20.859 --> 00:25:24.559 here's my big question to you. And I know you 00:25:24.559 --> 00:25:26.180 weren't prepared for this one, but this is a 00:25:26.180 --> 00:25:28.920 segue that I need to make. Have we confirmed 00:25:28.920 --> 00:25:34.079 whether black holes can destroy matter? Because 00:25:34.079 --> 00:25:36.700 here's my argument. because i know this has been 00:25:36.700 --> 00:25:39.279 up in the air if we can destroy matter that means 00:25:39.279 --> 00:25:41.140 we can bring in matter to the universe we can 00:25:41.140 --> 00:25:44.019 add to it so theoretically if you can pull from 00:25:44.019 --> 00:25:48.940 another universe into ours that would also prove 00:25:48.940 --> 00:25:50.480 the fact that with black holes i know they can 00:25:50.480 --> 00:25:52.359 take in matter and it supposedly is destroyed 00:25:52.359 --> 00:25:57.200 so that at least will allow both to happen because 00:25:57.200 --> 00:26:00.039 i would understand at the same time you but i 00:26:00.039 --> 00:26:01.960 was going to say you also get hawking radiation 00:26:01.960 --> 00:26:06.490 which is energy that is being shot out from the 00:26:06.490 --> 00:26:08.849 black hole right but is it equivalent to the 00:26:08.849 --> 00:26:12.950 energy of what's going in that i don't that's 00:26:12.950 --> 00:26:15.009 yeah that's the ultimate question because it 00:26:15.009 --> 00:26:16.309 would be one thing if we were able to measure 00:26:16.309 --> 00:26:18.250 one for one that all the matter going into a 00:26:18.250 --> 00:26:19.930 black hole and then all of it coming out was 00:26:19.930 --> 00:26:21.589 one to one we could say well then theoretically 00:26:21.589 --> 00:26:23.869 i guess in the universe you can't really destroy 00:26:23.869 --> 00:26:26.009 matter but because technically it seems like 00:26:26.009 --> 00:26:29.349 we can then i mean that bears some credence to 00:26:29.349 --> 00:26:32.009 we might be able to pull matter into from another 00:26:32.009 --> 00:26:35.170 universe So yeah, the law of conservation of 00:26:35.170 --> 00:26:38.789 energy, it can either be created nor destroyed, 00:26:38.829 --> 00:26:44.549 only converted. So theoretically, if you're bringing 00:26:44.549 --> 00:26:47.769 matter, i .e. energy, from one universe into 00:26:47.769 --> 00:26:52.869 the other, that's only a transference. So again, 00:26:52.990 --> 00:27:00.470 theoretically, yes, that could be done. Possibly. 00:27:02.569 --> 00:27:06.109 That'd be one for a Neil deGrasse Tyson level 00:27:06.109 --> 00:27:10.869 person. Yeah. Somebody at Neil deGrasse Tyson 00:27:10.869 --> 00:27:17.730 and send him that segment of the podcast. But 00:27:17.730 --> 00:27:23.089 social implications of infinite realities, just 00:27:23.089 --> 00:27:24.650 like you were talking about bringing resources, 00:27:24.950 --> 00:27:27.549 you could also have something like a refugee 00:27:27.549 --> 00:27:31.220 crisis. Could people from a collapsing or undesirable 00:27:31.220 --> 00:27:34.039 alternate timeline travel to a better main timeline, 00:27:34.359 --> 00:27:39.220 creating a galactic refugee crisis? No. Oh, like 00:27:39.220 --> 00:27:41.940 the, what was it in South Park with that reference? 00:27:42.059 --> 00:27:45.480 The goo? Yes. The goobs or whatever they were 00:27:45.480 --> 00:27:47.839 called. The goo backs. I remember that one. The 00:27:47.839 --> 00:27:53.299 goo backs. Yes. Get back in the pool! Get back 00:27:53.299 --> 00:27:57.579 in the pool! Yeah. So you've got something like 00:27:57.579 --> 00:28:01.839 that, or like in Rick and Morty, when Rick fucked 00:28:01.839 --> 00:28:05.140 up the serum with Morty and turned everybody 00:28:05.140 --> 00:28:09.640 into the Cronenbergs. Oh, yes. Cronenberg everybody. 00:28:10.740 --> 00:28:20.079 Oh, my God. So, you know, that's a possibility. 00:28:21.059 --> 00:28:25.529 Poor Jerry. Poor Jerry, I know, right? Although 00:28:25.529 --> 00:28:28.589 that Jerry did become a badass. Yeah. Well, yeah. 00:28:29.130 --> 00:28:32.190 After everybody's either dead or gone now. Yeah. 00:28:33.470 --> 00:28:39.230 So the moral dilemma question for that, if you 00:28:39.230 --> 00:28:42.809 can jump a timeline where your deceased loved 00:28:42.809 --> 00:28:46.049 one is still alive, have you truly achieved happiness 00:28:46.049 --> 00:28:49.690 or are you just using a copy? Again, like in 00:28:49.690 --> 00:28:52.730 Rick and Morty where he lost his family and just 00:28:52.730 --> 00:28:53.910 went to a different reality where they're still 00:28:53.910 --> 00:28:58.410 alive. It's a matter of perspective. His Morty 00:28:58.410 --> 00:29:02.910 is not his original Morty. Doesn't matter. Well, 00:29:02.990 --> 00:29:06.750 does physics and everything still work the same? 00:29:07.670 --> 00:29:12.069 Yeah, but the reality they're currently in, they 00:29:12.069 --> 00:29:15.809 say Parmesan weird. They pronounce it Parmesian. 00:29:17.509 --> 00:29:20.170 Oh, yeah, that's true. But that was like the 00:29:20.170 --> 00:29:22.250 only major change. So they were just like, screw 00:29:22.250 --> 00:29:30.890 it. It works. I'd have to say it's all essentially 00:29:30.890 --> 00:29:35.069 the same. It's just whether your brain can handle 00:29:35.069 --> 00:29:37.710 the adjustment. The thing is, is it even adjustment 00:29:37.710 --> 00:29:40.450 at that point? Because if 99 .999 % of all things 00:29:40.450 --> 00:29:43.369 are the same, there is no difference. Effectively, 00:29:43.410 --> 00:29:46.970 as long as things are close enough, it is what 00:29:46.970 --> 00:29:50.630 it is. You don't have to be exact for something 00:29:50.630 --> 00:29:53.170 like that to have to be perfect. Because you're 00:29:53.170 --> 00:29:55.089 saying like, oh, do they truly achieve happiness 00:29:55.089 --> 00:29:58.450 if they're a copy? It's like, well, if it's the 00:29:58.450 --> 00:29:59.990 same thing, if it's what they want, it's a matter 00:29:59.990 --> 00:30:01.829 of perspective at that point. It's a matter from 00:30:01.829 --> 00:30:06.849 their perspective anyway. Right. Yeah. So let 00:30:06.849 --> 00:30:09.250 me ask you guys this. If a technology exists 00:30:09.250 --> 00:30:11.250 that can be used to travel between universes 00:30:11.250 --> 00:30:14.930 or realities in this case, does the concept of 00:30:14.930 --> 00:30:17.349 the one true history cease to matter entirely? 00:30:18.890 --> 00:30:20.960 Yeah, because there's no such thing as... There's 00:30:20.960 --> 00:30:22.480 no such thing as true history. It's just whoever 00:30:22.480 --> 00:30:25.059 has the best time travel. That's it. They win. 00:30:25.680 --> 00:30:29.460 It's the ultimate I win button. The first nation 00:30:29.460 --> 00:30:31.259 to be able to figure out time travel means they're 00:30:31.259 --> 00:30:33.519 the only nation that exists. Because whether 00:30:33.519 --> 00:30:36.019 it happens now, yesterday, or five years in the 00:30:36.019 --> 00:30:38.160 past, in the blink of an eye, you can change 00:30:38.160 --> 00:30:40.500 everything. Time becomes meaningless at that 00:30:40.500 --> 00:30:43.180 point. That's like back in the 60s when the Russians 00:30:43.180 --> 00:30:49.490 got to the moon before the US. It's like... What 00:30:49.490 --> 00:30:50.970 am I thinking of that character from Rick and 00:30:50.970 --> 00:30:55.569 Morty, Ratcon? That's literally all it is. That's 00:30:55.569 --> 00:30:58.930 all it is. Or Bratcon. It was Bratcon, sorry. 00:30:59.589 --> 00:31:04.130 Bratcon, yeah. I like the one with the fortune 00:31:04.130 --> 00:31:14.809 cookie. Yeah. So, not only with changing history 00:31:14.809 --> 00:31:19.859 for the sake of changing history, But you can 00:31:19.859 --> 00:31:23.319 begin using time travel for geopolitical and 00:31:23.319 --> 00:31:26.619 military implications, literally weaponizing 00:31:26.619 --> 00:31:34.579 time and using it for espionage. You could use 00:31:34.579 --> 00:31:37.980 time as the ultimate deterrent because a nation 00:31:37.980 --> 00:31:40.339 could threaten to erase their enemy's foundation 00:31:40.339 --> 00:31:44.599 in history. And I think that goes far beyond 00:31:44.599 --> 00:31:47.930 conventional warfare. And it introduces the concept 00:31:47.930 --> 00:31:52.230 of temporal warfare, a battle fought literally 00:31:52.230 --> 00:31:55.430 through causality. And honestly, I think the 00:31:55.430 --> 00:31:58.970 existential threat of being erased from the timeline 00:31:58.970 --> 00:32:01.769 would be something more threatening than any 00:32:01.769 --> 00:32:05.849 bomb we've ever developed. You could literally 00:32:05.849 --> 00:32:09.769 go to sleep one night and then never exist. Well, 00:32:09.789 --> 00:32:11.450 number one, it's the most painless way to die, 00:32:11.549 --> 00:32:13.849 I would say. Like, you just cease to exist. You're 00:32:13.849 --> 00:32:16.309 not wrong. You know, it just it all just never 00:32:16.309 --> 00:32:19.390 happened. The thing I would point out is I feel 00:32:19.390 --> 00:32:21.329 like you're making the bold assumption that people 00:32:21.329 --> 00:32:24.369 are going to follow orders because here's the 00:32:24.369 --> 00:32:26.549 thing. You can't be held accountable. You go 00:32:26.549 --> 00:32:30.609 back in time. You now have the ability to do 00:32:30.609 --> 00:32:32.809 what you want, assuming there's no other counter 00:32:32.809 --> 00:32:35.769 agents going after you. So it's the case of how 00:32:35.769 --> 00:32:37.410 many people do you think are really going to 00:32:37.410 --> 00:32:39.230 follow orders or really going to kind of do what 00:32:39.230 --> 00:32:43.240 they want or do what they think is best? So it's 00:32:43.240 --> 00:32:45.000 going to be the problem of you're going to have 00:32:45.000 --> 00:32:46.920 to hope you got some very, very, very dedicated 00:32:46.920 --> 00:32:49.759 people. So whatever cause you have to make sure 00:32:49.759 --> 00:32:51.940 they follow out those orders. And then also that's 00:32:51.940 --> 00:32:54.220 assuming you know what's going to happen because 00:32:54.220 --> 00:32:56.200 then vice versa. What happens? Let's just say 00:32:56.200 --> 00:32:58.640 theoretically you kill, you know, the leader 00:32:58.640 --> 00:33:01.079 of some country, whatever. But instead of them, 00:33:01.079 --> 00:33:02.900 it's someone else. It's a warlord. You come back 00:33:02.900 --> 00:33:04.200 and all of a sudden you don't have a country 00:33:04.200 --> 00:33:06.900 because they declared war first. So it's a very 00:33:06.900 --> 00:33:09.079 weird problem. You have no idea of understand 00:33:09.079 --> 00:33:12.140 what the causality would be. So. You're gambling. 00:33:13.099 --> 00:33:15.380 And so what would end up happening is there wouldn't 00:33:15.380 --> 00:33:17.460 be big changes. There would be small changes. 00:33:18.000 --> 00:33:20.920 Things like disabling a country's economic system 00:33:20.920 --> 00:33:23.200 by making sure your country buys out their rights 00:33:23.200 --> 00:33:24.920 for oil or something like that or rights for 00:33:24.920 --> 00:33:27.500 water or other things that way to ensure control 00:33:27.500 --> 00:33:31.079 at the current moment, not eradication necessarily. 00:33:31.180 --> 00:33:33.839 So it's going to be a lot more sub diffusion, 00:33:33.940 --> 00:33:37.359 a lot more. a almost accumulation of like a death 00:33:37.359 --> 00:33:40.279 by a thousand cuts rather than killing or destroying 00:33:40.279 --> 00:33:42.559 anything it would be ensuring control for the 00:33:42.559 --> 00:33:45.200 future but it would take people that are not 00:33:45.200 --> 00:33:47.000 always smart enough to understand that but also 00:33:47.000 --> 00:33:49.880 restrained enough to not just say oh let's just 00:33:49.880 --> 00:33:52.140 drop a nuke here because that's not going to 00:33:52.140 --> 00:33:55.859 end the way you think right now major changes 00:33:55.859 --> 00:33:59.579 would have far worse consequences probably even 00:33:59.579 --> 00:34:03.619 catastrophic than people would realize So the 00:34:03.619 --> 00:34:08.460 changes would have to be subtle. But you could 00:34:08.460 --> 00:34:11.739 use time travel to deploy weapons before defenses 00:34:11.739 --> 00:34:16.179 are established or to evacuate forces after a 00:34:16.179 --> 00:34:21.159 critical event or even before one. So that could 00:34:21.159 --> 00:34:26.719 save lives before they're ever lost. The real 00:34:26.719 --> 00:34:28.239 thing that's going to bake our noodles if AI 00:34:28.239 --> 00:34:31.480 gets a hold of time travel. Well, then it's just 00:34:31.480 --> 00:34:34.789 Terminator. No, it's far worse than that because 00:34:34.789 --> 00:34:36.469 AI might be the only thing that can actually 00:34:36.469 --> 00:34:40.090 somewhat reliably figure out what the consequences 00:34:40.090 --> 00:34:44.289 would be. Right. So you'd be screwed. We'd be 00:34:44.289 --> 00:34:46.510 in a world where before you even commit a crime, 00:34:46.590 --> 00:34:48.409 AI knows you're going to commit that crime and 00:34:48.409 --> 00:34:50.329 punishes you yesterday for the crime of tomorrow. 00:34:52.570 --> 00:34:55.349 Figure that one out. Well, yeah. So that goes 00:34:55.349 --> 00:35:00.349 into like minority report. And that's a horrifying 00:35:00.349 --> 00:35:02.599 concept, honestly. I haven't seen that one in 00:35:02.599 --> 00:35:05.260 a while. I really should re -watch that. That's 00:35:05.260 --> 00:35:14.199 worth a re -watch. So one thing you have to really 00:35:14.199 --> 00:35:17.980 consider is if you make a big enough change to 00:35:17.980 --> 00:35:21.079 the historical timeline, you could literally 00:35:21.079 --> 00:35:25.099 have tanks rolling up Market Street in New York 00:35:25.099 --> 00:35:30.630 City during World War II. you could change the 00:35:30.630 --> 00:35:32.409 advancement of technology and have a lunar colony 00:35:32.409 --> 00:35:35.550 in the 80s, but the Earth gets destroyed in the 00:35:35.550 --> 00:35:40.590 process. Could be anything. You don't know. Especially, 00:35:40.809 --> 00:35:42.630 God forbid, if you travel back in time and you 00:35:42.630 --> 00:35:46.349 leave something from your period there, good 00:35:46.349 --> 00:35:49.030 God. I mean, there's been several Star Trek episodes 00:35:49.030 --> 00:35:52.789 about that. Oh, yeah. That's been... Well, in 00:35:52.789 --> 00:35:58.980 Voyager, that's how the chip... of the 20th century 00:35:58.980 --> 00:36:07.840 came to be. So that was canon. But if a nation 00:36:07.840 --> 00:36:12.500 develops time travel, would a global enforceable 00:36:12.500 --> 00:36:16.659 temporal nonproliferation treaty even be possible 00:36:16.659 --> 00:36:20.119 given the technology or given that technology 00:36:20.119 --> 00:36:24.500 could be hidden in the past? No. No one's going 00:36:24.500 --> 00:36:27.809 to agree to it. Everyone's going to shake hands 00:36:27.809 --> 00:36:29.730 and say, we're definitely not going to go back 00:36:29.730 --> 00:36:32.010 in time. And somehow they sign the paperwork, 00:36:32.289 --> 00:36:34.369 and then it's going to say, every other country 00:36:34.369 --> 00:36:36.650 but me is somehow going to not go back in time. 00:36:36.849 --> 00:36:38.090 And then they're going to look again. It's going 00:36:38.090 --> 00:36:39.929 to say, every other country but Russia is not 00:36:39.929 --> 00:36:41.750 going to go back in time. And it's just going 00:36:41.750 --> 00:36:43.550 to keep rewriting itself because everyone's going 00:36:43.550 --> 00:36:46.309 to immediately go back in time. No one's going 00:36:46.309 --> 00:36:49.570 to honor it. No way. It's the ultimate genie 00:36:49.570 --> 00:36:52.030 out of the box. Same thing with AI. It'll just 00:36:52.030 --> 00:36:55.429 be the next thing after AI. Yeah. Now, think 00:36:55.429 --> 00:36:59.239 about... applying time travel to uh information 00:36:59.239 --> 00:37:04.059 gathering and intelligence oh geez uh you could 00:37:04.059 --> 00:37:06.659 have agents jump to the past to record sensitive 00:37:06.659 --> 00:37:09.860 political meetings steal technological blueprints 00:37:09.860 --> 00:37:12.519 like literally you could have a whole fleet of 00:37:12.519 --> 00:37:15.760 planes that would just be done go back get the 00:37:15.760 --> 00:37:18.500 blueprints and have them done before the blueprints 00:37:18.500 --> 00:37:23.309 are ever conceived I just like to hear the meeting 00:37:23.309 --> 00:37:25.570 of like an engineer. So I have an idea. Yes. 00:37:25.869 --> 00:37:28.989 And it just shows up. Oh, you mean like this? 00:37:30.349 --> 00:37:39.789 Absolutely got this. Hold on. Yeah. I mean, think 00:37:39.789 --> 00:37:43.329 about it. And like the computer revolution, you 00:37:43.329 --> 00:37:46.630 could single handedly go back and change the 00:37:46.630 --> 00:37:49.710 way computers were developed. If you could get 00:37:49.710 --> 00:37:52.090 the engineers to understand the technology, that 00:37:52.090 --> 00:37:56.530 that's the other hurdle or discover a future 00:37:56.530 --> 00:37:59.789 stock market decision that, you know, like we 00:37:59.789 --> 00:38:03.909 talked about earlier and, and make somebody a 00:38:03.909 --> 00:38:06.550 billionaire or a trillionaire before the term 00:38:06.550 --> 00:38:18.710 existed. Yeah. I mean, it's God. using it to 00:38:18.710 --> 00:38:21.090 fight crime like you had just mentioned in Minority 00:38:21.090 --> 00:38:23.750 Report, law enforcement could use time jumps 00:38:23.750 --> 00:38:26.789 to witness crimes being committed, providing 00:38:26.789 --> 00:38:30.050 incontrovertible evidence, or even intervening 00:38:30.050 --> 00:38:33.210 just before a crime occurs, such as pre -crime 00:38:33.210 --> 00:38:37.750 like in Minority Report. That could be dangerous. 00:38:38.269 --> 00:38:39.969 It could be very dangerous. And I specifically 00:38:39.969 --> 00:38:43.289 wanted to bring this up with you because being 00:38:43.289 --> 00:38:47.940 a former cop, Where does that touch? Because 00:38:47.940 --> 00:38:51.820 you have prevented a crime from occurring. So 00:38:51.820 --> 00:38:55.300 wouldn't they only ever be committed with like 00:38:55.300 --> 00:38:59.500 intent or premeditation? They could never actually 00:38:59.500 --> 00:39:03.300 be charged with the full crime, correct? Because 00:39:03.300 --> 00:39:08.539 it was prevented. It would all depend. Like it 00:39:08.539 --> 00:39:10.940 would have to really depend on how they wrote. 00:39:11.309 --> 00:39:14.409 the rules on something like that. Cause there's 00:39:14.409 --> 00:39:18.489 do it like minority report style. Then I mean, 00:39:18.489 --> 00:39:22.070 you're really pushing the envelope of, you know, 00:39:22.070 --> 00:39:25.449 constitutional rights and stuff. Cause at that 00:39:25.449 --> 00:39:28.469 point you're still, yeah, their intent was to 00:39:28.469 --> 00:39:30.989 do something, but until they actually do it, 00:39:31.010 --> 00:39:35.469 do we know for certain that's what they were 00:39:35.469 --> 00:39:41.389 going to do? Right. Because once that, crime 00:39:41.389 --> 00:39:43.369 was prevented the crime was no longer committed 00:39:43.369 --> 00:39:49.369 exactly so so are you gonna be you couldn't from 00:39:49.369 --> 00:39:52.909 a legal standpoint unless again the rules are 00:39:52.909 --> 00:39:55.570 written in such a way that they can still show 00:39:55.570 --> 00:39:58.650 like if had we not done this this is what would 00:39:58.650 --> 00:40:02.650 have occurred then you know you i guess you could 00:40:02.650 --> 00:40:07.170 say you're okay but to sit there and show otherwise 00:40:07.170 --> 00:40:13.099 i just don't I just don't understand. I don't 00:40:13.099 --> 00:40:14.920 know how that would work, honestly, because of 00:40:14.920 --> 00:40:17.739 the fact that if you stop the crime from occurring, 00:40:18.059 --> 00:40:21.860 there's no crime. So then how can you charge 00:40:21.860 --> 00:40:23.360 somebody? Here's my question to you then. Are 00:40:23.360 --> 00:40:26.639 you then responsible for what your temporal others 00:40:26.639 --> 00:40:28.900 would do? Because theoretically, with the multiverse 00:40:28.900 --> 00:40:30.599 theory, there's a universe in both where you 00:40:30.599 --> 00:40:33.159 do and don't do it. So are they just cherry -picking? 00:40:33.480 --> 00:40:34.980 Being like, oh, but in this one, he committed 00:40:34.980 --> 00:40:36.579 the crime. It's like, yeah, but in all these 00:40:36.579 --> 00:40:40.050 other ones, I also didn't. The problem with that 00:40:40.050 --> 00:40:42.289 is the minute you find time travel, if multiversal 00:40:42.289 --> 00:40:46.090 theory is a reality, you can find anybody committing 00:40:46.090 --> 00:40:48.170 any crime you can think of depending on the universe. 00:40:48.230 --> 00:40:52.250 It's just how you find it. So congratulations 00:40:52.250 --> 00:40:54.730 with that one. If time travel does exist and 00:40:54.730 --> 00:40:58.130 multiversal theory exists, reality doesn't exist. 00:40:58.289 --> 00:41:00.530 It is what you perceive of it. Nothing matters. 00:41:00.730 --> 00:41:02.610 Reality is pure perception. Nothing matters. 00:41:03.230 --> 00:41:07.539 Yeah. Don't have. No. There is no lock. You can 00:41:07.539 --> 00:41:09.340 break any law you want, but you can also then 00:41:09.340 --> 00:41:12.219 not break it. Maybe break it. Then you can just 00:41:12.219 --> 00:41:14.280 go to reality where you didn't break it. Exactly. 00:41:15.840 --> 00:41:18.079 And is that the same principle idea? If you took 00:41:18.079 --> 00:41:19.900 a gun to your head and pulled the trigger, is 00:41:19.900 --> 00:41:21.719 there going to be a reality where it didn't work 00:41:21.719 --> 00:41:24.639 and you're still alive so then you can tell everybody, 00:41:24.780 --> 00:41:29.139 hey, I survived? Theoretically. That's what I 00:41:29.139 --> 00:41:30.519 wondered. There would be an entire underground 00:41:30.519 --> 00:41:34.000 industry of people basically time hopping. For 00:41:34.000 --> 00:41:35.960 basically committing crimes and going to a place 00:41:35.960 --> 00:41:37.440 where you didn't commit that crime. Therefore, 00:41:37.539 --> 00:41:40.059 you did do the crime and you have the money or 00:41:40.059 --> 00:41:41.340 drugs or whatever. Then you go somewhere where 00:41:41.340 --> 00:41:45.019 you didn't. So you're innocent. There's no way 00:41:45.019 --> 00:41:49.719 to prove it. Yeah. So good luck with that. So 00:41:49.719 --> 00:41:53.719 let me ask you this. And by the way, anybody 00:41:53.719 --> 00:41:55.940 listening, if you have something you want to 00:41:55.940 --> 00:42:00.019 chime in and say, by all means, hit us up on 00:42:00.019 --> 00:42:03.489 Discord. Hit us up on the socials. We would love 00:42:03.489 --> 00:42:06.070 to hear your input, especially on this topic. 00:42:06.630 --> 00:42:10.869 But let me ask you this. Does the perfect ability 00:42:10.869 --> 00:42:14.030 to gather intelligence destroy the concept of 00:42:14.030 --> 00:42:16.730 sovereignty or privacy? Because if the past is 00:42:16.730 --> 00:42:19.409 an open book, does anyone truly have secrets? 00:42:20.389 --> 00:42:22.590 Only the secrets that you think to yourself. 00:42:23.449 --> 00:42:26.110 Yeah, your mind is the only truly safe place. 00:42:29.259 --> 00:42:34.340 And I have a dirty, dirty mind. I think we all 00:42:34.340 --> 00:42:37.699 do here. As Gibbs has been finding out for at 00:42:37.699 --> 00:42:40.420 least the last year. Just in the podcast. Because 00:42:40.420 --> 00:42:42.639 I've been traumatizing him for many years. Yeah, 00:42:42.639 --> 00:42:43.880 I was going to say this has been 10 years of 00:42:43.880 --> 00:42:50.179 non -consensual trauma. Thank God we got a sponsor 00:42:50.179 --> 00:42:52.719 because I need some coffee at some point. Yes. 00:42:56.300 --> 00:43:00.579 So. My God. On the less grim side of time travel, 00:43:00.760 --> 00:43:04.739 we have time travel as tourism, the vacation 00:43:04.739 --> 00:43:06.719 effect. And this is something I think would be 00:43:06.719 --> 00:43:09.760 the most popular use of time travel, developing 00:43:09.760 --> 00:43:13.159 the economy of temporal tourism. Historical theme 00:43:13.159 --> 00:43:16.599 parks could be a thing. Just imagine traveling 00:43:16.599 --> 00:43:20.199 to witness the Roman Empire's peak, the Colosseum, 00:43:20.219 --> 00:43:23.039 the construction of the pyramids, or a concert 00:43:23.039 --> 00:43:26.019 by deceased legends. Imagine being able to go 00:43:26.019 --> 00:43:31.679 to Woodstock. If that's your thing. Go see, hell, 00:43:31.800 --> 00:43:33.860 Michael Jackson's last performance. Go see Chester 00:43:33.860 --> 00:43:38.139 Bennington's last performance. I mean, all the 00:43:38.139 --> 00:43:41.619 greats. The tourism thing would be awesome if 00:43:41.619 --> 00:43:43.860 you knew for a fact that traveling back in time 00:43:43.860 --> 00:43:46.280 doesn't change anything. You can't change nothing. 00:43:46.599 --> 00:43:49.159 So you could send groups of people back to go 00:43:49.159 --> 00:43:52.800 see something and know that by them going back, 00:43:52.980 --> 00:43:56.530 they can't hurt nothing. that'd be perfect then 00:43:56.530 --> 00:43:59.150 at that point like it would literally have to 00:43:59.150 --> 00:44:02.610 be a some sort of a temporal contract like you 00:44:02.610 --> 00:44:06.170 agree to only participate in the event make no 00:44:06.170 --> 00:44:09.929 changes leave no trace and then come back you're 00:44:09.929 --> 00:44:13.809 there as an observer only you could do some serious 00:44:13.809 --> 00:44:15.789 educational work with something like that oh 00:44:15.789 --> 00:44:18.210 yeah think about if you could go back to just 00:44:18.210 --> 00:44:20.489 document things and and we're going to touch 00:44:20.489 --> 00:44:26.059 on a bigger of that here in a little bit. But 00:44:26.059 --> 00:44:29.840 documenting the past in 4K, as the kids like 00:44:29.840 --> 00:44:34.159 to say, that would be truly one of the biggest 00:44:34.159 --> 00:44:39.880 and best uses as far as science goes. But as 00:44:39.880 --> 00:44:41.880 far as tourism goes, the industry could generate 00:44:41.880 --> 00:44:46.179 massive revenue, but also create an experience 00:44:46.179 --> 00:44:49.780 disparity because only the wealthy could really 00:44:49.780 --> 00:44:53.360 live in history. Because you know that would 00:44:53.360 --> 00:44:56.019 be restricted to the people who could only afford 00:44:56.019 --> 00:44:59.500 it. You know, they're not going to let just the 00:44:59.500 --> 00:45:05.039 plebes go and experience time travel. Yeah. I 00:45:05.039 --> 00:45:07.599 just got to go see when they make that research. 00:45:08.119 --> 00:45:11.079 Right. I think the problem is going to be there, 00:45:11.139 --> 00:45:12.719 and I do have to agree with Gibbles on that one, 00:45:12.739 --> 00:45:15.860 is there's no way to prove that your existence 00:45:15.860 --> 00:45:17.980 there, especially a bunch of rich snobs that 00:45:17.980 --> 00:45:20.400 kind of used to get what they want, doing what 00:45:20.400 --> 00:45:22.719 they want. Do you know how many of them are going 00:45:22.719 --> 00:45:25.960 to start doing absolutely stupid shit back in 00:45:25.960 --> 00:45:27.119 history? They're going to call us and be like, 00:45:27.139 --> 00:45:28.940 oh, let me pull up my iPhone and take a video. 00:45:29.239 --> 00:45:30.860 And everybody's going to be like, what is this 00:45:30.860 --> 00:45:34.000 magic tablet? What is this bullshit? Yeah, exactly. 00:45:34.119 --> 00:45:34.900 Do you know how many of them are going to get 00:45:34.900 --> 00:45:37.860 murdered for being witches and wizards? Just 00:45:37.860 --> 00:45:39.800 like, wow, Bill Gates went back in time to see 00:45:39.800 --> 00:45:41.960 the revolution and he didn't return. And I have 00:45:41.960 --> 00:45:43.260 this little note in history that said there was 00:45:43.260 --> 00:45:47.059 this weird bald guy that, you know, in 1776 that 00:45:47.059 --> 00:45:49.000 walked into somebody holding a magic tablet and 00:45:49.000 --> 00:45:51.320 then he was suddenly shot to death. Like it's 00:45:51.320 --> 00:45:53.380 honestly, that would be probably the funniest 00:45:53.380 --> 00:45:55.059 thing. It's just your history books being updated. 00:45:55.239 --> 00:45:58.059 Also be like, oh, look, we just lost blank because 00:45:58.059 --> 00:45:59.440 they went back in time and did something really 00:45:59.440 --> 00:46:05.280 stupid. Yeah. Yeah. Oh my God. That would be 00:46:05.280 --> 00:46:09.320 awesome. You wouldn't be allowed to take modern 00:46:09.320 --> 00:46:13.219 technology, I think. No. Or it would have to 00:46:13.219 --> 00:46:15.960 be physically attached to you somehow. So there 00:46:15.960 --> 00:46:18.280 was a Star Trek episode. The Futurama iPhone. 00:46:19.539 --> 00:46:22.019 The problem that would have to be, and I remember 00:46:22.019 --> 00:46:23.800 the Star Trek episode about this, where basically 00:46:23.800 --> 00:46:26.480 they used a cloaking technology to have their 00:46:26.480 --> 00:46:28.659 fortification, like their place, be part of like 00:46:28.659 --> 00:46:34.769 a rock face. That was Insurrection. Yeah. Sure. 00:46:34.909 --> 00:46:37.050 The insurrection movie. Oh, yeah. I forgot about 00:46:37.050 --> 00:46:38.829 that. Yeah, where they're watching from the big 00:46:38.829 --> 00:46:41.030 ass rock. But effectively, that's the only way 00:46:41.030 --> 00:46:42.630 you'd be able to do it. So you wouldn't be able 00:46:42.630 --> 00:46:45.130 to get close to a lot of things. So it's this 00:46:45.130 --> 00:46:47.769 problem of you could go and walk around, but 00:46:47.769 --> 00:46:51.909 the risk of tampering with the timeline would 00:46:51.909 --> 00:46:54.570 be immense. Now, here comes my other question 00:46:54.570 --> 00:46:59.449 to you. Do they then say, screw it? And if they 00:46:59.449 --> 00:47:00.829 know they're going to go back and have a branch 00:47:00.829 --> 00:47:03.349 timeline because they're interfering. Do they 00:47:03.349 --> 00:47:06.469 just say, you do what you want, don't die, and 00:47:06.469 --> 00:47:07.650 then when you come back, we're just going to 00:47:07.650 --> 00:47:12.110 purge the timeline anyway? Because think about 00:47:12.110 --> 00:47:15.190 it. That's rough. If it doesn't affect the main 00:47:15.190 --> 00:47:17.349 timeline, the prime timeline, whatever you want 00:47:17.349 --> 00:47:21.630 to call it, if there really is no, I guess you 00:47:21.630 --> 00:47:24.809 could say, no punishment for it because it doesn't 00:47:24.809 --> 00:47:26.489 affect your timeline if there is a multiverse, 00:47:27.429 --> 00:47:29.949 we can kind of just go back, do whatever, whatever 00:47:29.949 --> 00:47:31.650 happens, whatever happens, and then come back. 00:47:32.429 --> 00:47:35.449 you know oh my god it'd be gta for real life 00:47:35.449 --> 00:47:38.550 it'd be basically yeah we're gonna juice the 00:47:38.550 --> 00:47:41.849 romans to what's called an m16 it's like oh my 00:47:41.849 --> 00:47:45.510 god oh think about taking back like modern technology 00:47:45.510 --> 00:47:49.869 to uh some of the big wars oh yeah oh god you 00:47:49.869 --> 00:47:54.559 could you could see how it played out This is 00:47:54.559 --> 00:47:57.179 the battle of Theropolis. How many Persians can 00:47:57.179 --> 00:47:59.300 an M1 Abrams run over in 35 minutes? Let's go. 00:48:00.519 --> 00:48:06.960 Let's set a record here. Sorry, you go. 300 Greeks 00:48:06.960 --> 00:48:11.219 at the hot gates. It's now freaking 300 Abrams 00:48:11.219 --> 00:48:15.440 coming forward. I feel like if multiverse is 00:48:15.440 --> 00:48:17.320 true and you're able to get time travel and it's 00:48:17.320 --> 00:48:18.900 cheap enough to where they can do it reliably. 00:48:20.039 --> 00:48:23.159 The entire industry, I agree, will be vacationing 00:48:23.159 --> 00:48:25.400 on the past, sure. Time travel is tourism, but 00:48:25.400 --> 00:48:27.880 what it would really be is rich people screwing 00:48:27.880 --> 00:48:29.559 with the timeline to make it the way they want. 00:48:29.980 --> 00:48:31.360 And they're going to have their own branch of 00:48:31.360 --> 00:48:33.880 timeline. I'm going to call it right now. I really 00:48:33.880 --> 00:48:35.280 think there would actually be companies that 00:48:35.280 --> 00:48:37.500 would own certain timelines because they prune 00:48:37.500 --> 00:48:39.659 them and create them to certain things. So imagine 00:48:39.659 --> 00:48:43.179 something like sponsored by Coca -Cola, and it's 00:48:43.179 --> 00:48:45.179 the Coca -Cola timeline where they turned every 00:48:45.179 --> 00:48:47.059 ocean into Coca -Cola. You could just go up to 00:48:47.059 --> 00:48:49.820 the ocean and drink it. I don't know. It would 00:48:49.820 --> 00:48:53.440 be something stupid. Or the case of like, hey, 00:48:53.579 --> 00:48:56.059 in this timeline, Earth is 10 times the size. 00:48:56.199 --> 00:48:58.139 Everybody can buy a mansion in 100 acres and 00:48:58.139 --> 00:49:01.519 nobody cares. Or something weird. Yeah, but everybody 00:49:01.519 --> 00:49:04.820 would be little people. They'd be short. I'm 00:49:04.820 --> 00:49:06.440 sure there'd be a variation. Like that movie 00:49:06.440 --> 00:49:08.639 that came out years ago. That's not specific. 00:49:10.820 --> 00:49:12.400 Downsizing, I think, is a movie you're referencing. 00:49:13.179 --> 00:49:17.429 Downsizing, yeah. There's so many options you 00:49:17.429 --> 00:49:19.090 could do with that. Just a question of how far 00:49:19.090 --> 00:49:21.130 can you go? Because I agree with the tourism 00:49:21.130 --> 00:49:24.489 thing would be cool. But, oh boy, it's going 00:49:24.489 --> 00:49:25.969 to be weird. Like, it's going to be weird if 00:49:25.969 --> 00:49:26.829 you're an ancient Roman. You're just like, oh, 00:49:26.849 --> 00:49:28.550 hi, Mark. And you just keep on walking. Like, 00:49:28.590 --> 00:49:30.150 oh, you're here with the kids too? And everyone 00:49:30.150 --> 00:49:31.809 around is like, why are they not speaking Italian? 00:49:32.289 --> 00:49:37.409 What's going on? Although, keeping on the 300 00:49:37.409 --> 00:49:44.250 theme, Xerxes, behold my friend, Bert. Dude. 00:49:44.250 --> 00:49:49.230 Yes, you shall fear Gary. I wonder how many ancient 00:49:49.230 --> 00:49:52.550 tales are really just us sending an A -10 warthog 00:49:52.550 --> 00:49:54.429 back in time. It's not about chariots on fire 00:49:54.429 --> 00:49:56.690 with the ancient Egyptians. No, no, it's just 00:49:56.690 --> 00:49:59.590 an angry A -10 warthog. That's all it is. That's 00:49:59.590 --> 00:50:03.429 all it is. That's no dragon. That's a warthog. 00:50:03.590 --> 00:50:08.230 Yes. Yeah. That's the angriest dragon. Greek 00:50:08.230 --> 00:50:14.690 fire is just napalm. Oh, let's see where we at. 00:50:15.250 --> 00:50:17.289 Temporal crowding, like you were just saying. 00:50:17.750 --> 00:50:20.030 What happens when millions of tourists want to 00:50:20.030 --> 00:50:22.650 witness the exact same moment, like the signing 00:50:22.650 --> 00:50:24.289 of the Declaration of Independence or something 00:50:24.289 --> 00:50:27.590 like that? This could lead to a massive temporal 00:50:27.590 --> 00:50:30.489 overcrowding and resource strain in the past. 00:50:30.889 --> 00:50:36.230 You cannot send 100 ,000 people from our timeline 00:50:36.230 --> 00:50:40.300 to the past. to an area that cannot support more 00:50:40.300 --> 00:50:43.980 than 5 ,000 people. So might I make an argument 00:50:43.980 --> 00:50:47.039 here? Absolutely. There would be an entire industry 00:50:47.039 --> 00:50:48.800 for people that can't afford to time travel back 00:50:48.800 --> 00:50:50.860 where they hire somebody with a camera on their 00:50:50.860 --> 00:50:54.380 shirt to videotape everything first person. And 00:50:54.380 --> 00:50:57.900 that way you can watch it. Like an upload. Essentially, 00:50:58.039 --> 00:51:00.440 yes. But the idea of like it's a recording. So 00:51:00.440 --> 00:51:02.940 you can watch the recording of, hey, they sent, 00:51:03.019 --> 00:51:05.510 you know. At this date, they send someone back 00:51:05.510 --> 00:51:07.449 to go videotape the Declaration of Independence 00:51:07.449 --> 00:51:10.570 signing from this POV. And they'll eventually 00:51:10.570 --> 00:51:12.989 do it enough times where they gather from every 00:51:12.989 --> 00:51:15.670 angle and use AI to piece it all together. And 00:51:15.670 --> 00:51:17.349 all of a sudden, now you can go to a holodeck 00:51:17.349 --> 00:51:19.690 or something like that and you can watch it and 00:51:19.690 --> 00:51:23.130 physically interact. Yeah. That'd be kind of 00:51:23.130 --> 00:51:24.550 cool. I feel like that's the way they'd go for 00:51:24.550 --> 00:51:28.489 some of that stuff. So that could bring up a 00:51:28.489 --> 00:51:33.030 whole lot of really interesting just... filmed 00:51:33.030 --> 00:51:37.010 historical archives, especially to view in VR 00:51:37.010 --> 00:51:40.889 or IMAX or something like that, that would be 00:51:40.889 --> 00:51:45.409 amazing. History class would not be boring. Yeah. 00:51:45.449 --> 00:51:47.489 Well, if anything, at that point, it would become 00:51:47.489 --> 00:51:50.150 probably the most studied thing ever. Because 00:51:50.150 --> 00:51:51.929 if you were able to get history in the level 00:51:51.929 --> 00:51:53.630 of detail and documentation that we have today, 00:51:54.250 --> 00:51:56.829 you could spend your entire life just reading 00:51:56.829 --> 00:52:00.550 about Greece from 1920 to 1930. If it was all 00:52:00.550 --> 00:52:03.230 documented, let alone. History in the previous 00:52:03.230 --> 00:52:05.130 stuff because I bet you there's so much now do 00:52:05.130 --> 00:52:08.769 we sorry you go I was gonna ask if do we include 00:52:08.769 --> 00:52:13.510 the smell no You wouldn't be able to get within 00:52:13.510 --> 00:52:17.050 20 miles of fucking Paris let alone Paris like 00:52:17.050 --> 00:52:21.590 1800s Oh, yeah, you know city smells when they 00:52:21.590 --> 00:52:23.309 knew they were near it They do it. There's only 00:52:23.309 --> 00:52:24.809 like a four -hour walk when they could start 00:52:24.809 --> 00:52:30.880 to smell it like yeah, it's fucking bad Yep That's 00:52:30.880 --> 00:52:36.480 so gross. So let me ask you this. The ethics 00:52:36.480 --> 00:52:40.059 of observation, would it be ethical to observe 00:52:40.059 --> 00:52:43.460 or even photograph historical human suffering, 00:52:43.679 --> 00:52:47.900 wars, plagues, poverty, as a form of entertainment? 00:52:49.860 --> 00:52:52.000 We already do that. Does the act of observation 00:52:52.000 --> 00:52:55.380 without intervention become morally culpable? 00:52:56.239 --> 00:52:58.539 Because if you're going back to see these events, 00:52:59.659 --> 00:53:02.179 You would literally be placing yourself in the 00:53:02.179 --> 00:53:06.099 moments of an event that you knew you could do 00:53:06.099 --> 00:53:10.119 something about. But as a time tourist, you are 00:53:10.119 --> 00:53:17.340 not able to act. I mean, it's the thing of like 00:53:17.340 --> 00:53:20.019 it. Again, all this hinges on multiversal theory. 00:53:20.119 --> 00:53:23.280 If multiversal theory does not exist and your 00:53:23.280 --> 00:53:28.400 actions have consequences in your timeline. Yeah, 00:53:28.539 --> 00:53:30.760 that might be a fucking problem. If you're in 00:53:30.760 --> 00:53:32.579 the multiversal theory where if you interact 00:53:32.579 --> 00:53:35.460 and it doesn't matter, then sure, you can help 00:53:35.460 --> 00:53:37.079 out, but then you're risking being discovered 00:53:37.079 --> 00:53:39.280 and having all sorts of consequences you can't 00:53:39.280 --> 00:53:41.719 prepare for. But if it's a situation where theoretically 00:53:41.719 --> 00:53:45.079 you can hop back to the same timeline and then 00:53:45.079 --> 00:53:48.519 hop forward again, then you really can't touch 00:53:48.519 --> 00:53:53.860 anything because you have no idea. You have no 00:53:53.860 --> 00:54:02.519 clue. Yeah. So let me ask this. Two questions 00:54:02.519 --> 00:54:05.159 I want to ask. If time tourism became widely 00:54:05.159 --> 00:54:08.639 available, would it devalue real present -day 00:54:08.639 --> 00:54:13.539 historical sites and museums? I don't think so. 00:54:15.019 --> 00:54:18.659 It would be, again, in how you would disseminate 00:54:18.659 --> 00:54:22.860 the information and imagery to people that couldn't 00:54:22.860 --> 00:54:26.409 necessarily travel back in time. Because A, you 00:54:26.409 --> 00:54:30.690 can't afford it, or B, there's not enough time. 00:54:30.949 --> 00:54:33.510 Well, I would say not enough of the technology 00:54:33.510 --> 00:54:36.289 to kind of go around and set it up where anybody 00:54:36.289 --> 00:54:41.150 could go. So you think like take a current historical 00:54:41.150 --> 00:54:45.889 site and set up displays where someone has gone 00:54:45.889 --> 00:54:48.750 back to that site and recorded what happened 00:54:48.750 --> 00:54:52.630 there. You could set up like the live feed version. 00:54:53.230 --> 00:54:55.949 So they could see what it really was like. Exactly. 00:54:56.130 --> 00:54:59.329 Yeah. Instead of just seeing the ruins. Right. 00:54:59.530 --> 00:55:01.650 You know, like if you go to a historical battlefield 00:55:01.650 --> 00:55:05.809 like Antietam. Yes. You know, you send somebody 00:55:05.809 --> 00:55:09.550 back there to record the battle of Antietam and 00:55:09.550 --> 00:55:12.250 then you put it up on a display there so that 00:55:12.250 --> 00:55:14.690 when people go to the battlefields, they can 00:55:14.690 --> 00:55:18.849 see the actual battle. Yes. Right. which would 00:55:18.849 --> 00:55:21.889 be terrible. And then they discover that, oh, 00:55:21.909 --> 00:55:26.329 my God, that dude only had one testicle. If you 00:55:26.329 --> 00:55:27.750 go back in time and that's what you're looking 00:55:27.750 --> 00:55:30.469 to inspect, I have so many more questions. Right. 00:55:31.150 --> 00:55:32.909 It's just more the fact that it all depends on 00:55:32.909 --> 00:55:34.909 who gets access to the information and depends 00:55:34.909 --> 00:55:37.889 on what you find. Because I think a lot of people 00:55:37.889 --> 00:55:39.409 would be surprised to find out that the history 00:55:39.409 --> 00:55:42.469 that we know or that we think we know. is very 00:55:42.469 --> 00:55:46.170 incomplete or very slanted and swayed. Edited. 00:55:46.309 --> 00:55:47.909 So you would have a lot of people that are going 00:55:47.909 --> 00:55:49.989 to find out things that are going to test everything 00:55:49.989 --> 00:55:52.650 that they knew or they thought they knew. I think 00:55:52.650 --> 00:55:54.010 there would be a lot of people having really 00:55:54.010 --> 00:55:56.869 riots over the finding out of true historical 00:55:56.869 --> 00:56:00.219 context for things. especially when people used 00:56:00.219 --> 00:56:02.059 to make decisions based off things that were 00:56:02.059 --> 00:56:05.840 very incomplete with information. So you're going 00:56:05.840 --> 00:56:07.840 to have a lot of these issues. Number two, I 00:56:07.840 --> 00:56:10.099 think you can keep the original monuments and 00:56:10.099 --> 00:56:12.519 everything to give you context. It's like, hey, 00:56:12.539 --> 00:56:14.480 before we could see about the whole picture, 00:56:14.619 --> 00:56:17.460 this is what we thought. And then you can build 00:56:17.460 --> 00:56:19.460 next to it or around or even use that as context. 00:56:19.539 --> 00:56:22.360 So this is what we know now that we can travel 00:56:22.360 --> 00:56:25.159 back and see these events. And they could use 00:56:25.159 --> 00:56:26.960 them as example of, hey, this is the power of 00:56:26.960 --> 00:56:29.369 being. of time travel being able to be used appropriately. 00:56:30.130 --> 00:56:33.090 The problem I see is because obviously this is 00:56:33.090 --> 00:56:34.630 going to be something that's very expensive and 00:56:34.630 --> 00:56:38.630 very limited for a long time. I don't think they 00:56:38.630 --> 00:56:40.949 would use it honestly. I feel like they'd say 00:56:40.949 --> 00:56:43.550 they sent someone back in time, they'd use AI 00:56:43.550 --> 00:56:45.530 to doctor up any images or anything that they 00:56:45.530 --> 00:56:47.630 want, come back and say, oh, it's actually this. 00:56:47.730 --> 00:56:49.829 This is somehow conveniently exactly what I told 00:56:49.829 --> 00:56:51.510 you it was and exactly what it will always be. 00:56:51.929 --> 00:56:53.789 Because we're the government. We're here to help. 00:56:54.590 --> 00:56:57.940 Yeah. I think that's the biggest problem because 00:56:57.940 --> 00:57:00.659 no one privately is going to have access to time 00:57:00.659 --> 00:57:06.039 travel for eons after it's invented. So one thing 00:57:06.039 --> 00:57:08.900 that kind of you were touching on, like what 00:57:08.900 --> 00:57:12.320 we used to believe and what we now know, the 00:57:12.320 --> 00:57:14.860 monuments that we have, that would be kind of 00:57:14.860 --> 00:57:17.400 interesting to have. like the old world monument 00:57:17.400 --> 00:57:20.500 next to the new like lizard people monument because 00:57:20.500 --> 00:57:22.699 we used to believe it was people running the 00:57:22.699 --> 00:57:25.320 world. Now we know, we now know it's the lizard 00:57:25.320 --> 00:57:27.139 people that run everything. So that would be 00:57:27.139 --> 00:57:31.400 kind of cool. Yes. But so here's a question for 00:57:31.400 --> 00:57:34.840 the listeners and even you guys. I put this in 00:57:34.840 --> 00:57:38.079 here to find out if you could travel to a historical 00:57:38.079 --> 00:57:41.940 time or event on a vacation, where slash when 00:57:41.940 --> 00:57:47.150 would you go? gibbs let's let's start with you 00:57:47.150 --> 00:57:51.630 oh well if i could travel anywhere oh this is 00:57:51.630 --> 00:57:55.570 tough yeah oh man there's so many good options 00:57:55.570 --> 00:57:59.769 oh okay now the only thing is is you have to 00:57:59.769 --> 00:58:02.949 you know depends on where we're going and what 00:58:02.949 --> 00:58:06.269 the setup is because observation i want to go 00:58:06.269 --> 00:58:10.710 back and observation only yes But, again, it 00:58:10.710 --> 00:58:12.909 would also depend on what you're able to bring 00:58:12.909 --> 00:58:15.650 with you, because you couldn't go back to, like, 00:58:15.710 --> 00:58:18.389 say, the Jurassic period or something, because 00:58:18.389 --> 00:58:22.309 the oxygen levels, CO2 levels and all that is 00:58:22.309 --> 00:58:24.170 different than it is now. The assumption would 00:58:24.170 --> 00:58:25.630 be it would have to be in, like, recent history, 00:58:25.710 --> 00:58:27.989 like, within the last 10 ,000 years, you know? 00:58:28.170 --> 00:58:31.909 Yeah. Yeah, I was going to say, because me, I 00:58:31.909 --> 00:58:34.110 would love to be able to see, like, the beginning 00:58:34.110 --> 00:58:37.769 of the Egyptian empire. See how that got started. 00:58:38.030 --> 00:58:40.309 I have a very controversial answer on this one. 00:58:41.090 --> 00:58:44.449 Okay, go. I want to see what happened at Bohemian 00:58:44.449 --> 00:58:48.050 Grove. I want to know. I want to see. I need 00:58:48.050 --> 00:58:53.670 to know what's happening. Oh, Jesus. That's my 00:58:53.670 --> 00:58:55.170 first thought. My second thought was honestly, 00:58:55.289 --> 00:58:57.369 do you know how cool it may be to go to an ancient 00:58:57.369 --> 00:59:00.429 Roman beach? Oh, yeah. And just hang out for 00:59:00.429 --> 00:59:03.070 a day. Hell yeah. Just walk around and be there 00:59:03.070 --> 00:59:05.230 amongst the people. Just not say a fucking word. 00:59:05.630 --> 00:59:07.789 Just, just look, just look around, look and see 00:59:07.789 --> 00:59:09.469 how people live, stuff like that. And just kind 00:59:09.469 --> 00:59:11.670 of go home. Just be like, wow, I really appreciate 00:59:11.670 --> 00:59:15.130 plumbing and also hygiene products. Oh my God. 00:59:15.269 --> 00:59:19.610 Yeah. Well, if you're in the Roman era, they 00:59:19.610 --> 00:59:22.829 had pretty good plumbing. Oh yeah. Deodorant. 00:59:22.889 --> 00:59:25.070 Not so much, but they did have good plumbing. 00:59:25.530 --> 00:59:31.489 Don't, don't use the toothpaste. Yeah. Can I, 00:59:31.489 --> 00:59:33.289 can I make a side note? Don't drink from the, 00:59:33.309 --> 00:59:36.230 yes. Can, can we find a way? if there is time 00:59:36.230 --> 00:59:39.489 travel, to bring our mutual friend that's like 00:59:39.489 --> 00:59:42.130 a fucking mountain back in time to where we're 00:59:42.130 --> 00:59:43.869 all like five foot four and watch them shit themselves. 00:59:47.190 --> 00:59:49.650 We're all relatively good size so we can go, 00:59:49.750 --> 00:59:52.150 and then here's our friend and he's just luring 00:59:52.150 --> 00:59:57.750 over them. Even the stuff of legends. He knows 00:59:57.750 --> 01:00:00.949 who he is in the Discord. He knows. Oh yeah, 01:00:01.150 --> 01:00:06.869 he does. God. So I would like to go to some places 01:00:06.869 --> 01:00:13.309 like the Roswell crash site. Oh, okay. I would 01:00:13.309 --> 01:00:16.610 like to see what really happened there. I would 01:00:16.610 --> 01:00:20.250 like to find out, Pip, someone that gets anally 01:00:20.250 --> 01:00:23.929 interrogated. That's why you're going. Don't 01:00:23.929 --> 01:00:26.969 threaten me with a good time. There's a come 01:00:26.969 --> 01:00:30.050 button in there. I would like to find out some 01:00:30.050 --> 01:00:34.170 things, just like some of the more controversial 01:00:34.170 --> 01:00:37.429 things in history. You know, go see, as much 01:00:37.429 --> 01:00:41.829 as I hate to say it, the JFK assassination. Yeah. 01:00:42.010 --> 01:00:44.250 So you'd be the jackass with binoculars going, 01:00:44.389 --> 01:00:46.110 all right, I'm ready. You'd be the one that built 01:00:46.110 --> 01:00:47.909 an opposite from it, just watching Lee Harvey 01:00:47.909 --> 01:00:50.429 Oswald going, all right. Well, no, I want to 01:00:50.429 --> 01:00:54.070 watch The Driver. Oh, fair. Because that video 01:00:54.070 --> 01:00:56.179 that came out not long ago. shows the driver 01:00:56.179 --> 01:00:59.079 turning around and possibly, like, popping one 01:00:59.079 --> 01:01:04.440 off from his left hand. So... Honestly, with 01:01:04.440 --> 01:01:07.019 today's modern, like, recording equipment and 01:01:07.019 --> 01:01:09.139 zoom in, imagine being able to get, like, the 01:01:09.139 --> 01:01:11.400 first perspective on something that no one else 01:01:11.400 --> 01:01:15.519 has thought of. Uh -huh. You could re -Zapruder 01:01:15.519 --> 01:01:22.440 the Zapruder film. English. Yes, that was a tongue 01:01:22.440 --> 01:01:27.739 twister. So, but yeah, if you're listening to 01:01:27.739 --> 01:01:31.440 this and you have a historical place that you 01:01:31.440 --> 01:01:34.079 would be interested to go to, we would love to 01:01:34.079 --> 01:01:36.039 hear that. I don't recommend the Twin Towers 01:01:36.039 --> 01:01:38.460 at 9 -11. I don't recommend that one. No. That's 01:01:38.460 --> 01:01:41.679 a short day. No. I don't recommend it. No. Unless 01:01:41.679 --> 01:01:43.219 you're that one asshole that comes over like 01:01:43.219 --> 01:01:47.340 a parachute. Do a flip. Sorry, I know that's 01:01:47.340 --> 01:01:52.480 really offensive. He's doing a backflip for Jesus 01:01:52.480 --> 01:02:01.980 at that point. Or go back to like 2015 and stop 01:02:01.980 --> 01:02:04.039 that stupid kid from falling in the gorilla enclosure. 01:02:04.969 --> 01:02:08.170 Oh, my God. We got to save Harambe's life. Yep. 01:02:08.289 --> 01:02:10.110 If we can do it. That would be the funniest no 01:02:10.110 --> 01:02:14.389 -context thing imaginable. Just this portal opens 01:02:14.389 --> 01:02:17.389 up. Three officers run in there, dressed in uniforms 01:02:17.389 --> 01:02:20.010 you've never seen, throwing this kid completely 01:02:20.010 --> 01:02:21.789 out of the gorilla exhibit, going, we need to 01:02:21.789 --> 01:02:23.730 save him. And he just grabs his gorilla, disappears, 01:02:23.889 --> 01:02:29.809 just with the kids at the zoo going, what? Mother 01:02:29.809 --> 01:02:32.269 standard. What just happened? Why is my baby 01:02:32.269 --> 01:02:34.769 just physically launched out of the... Gorilla 01:02:34.769 --> 01:02:36.110 exhibit. I mean, I appreciate that response. 01:02:36.110 --> 01:02:38.489 Eat the child. That's the best police response 01:02:38.489 --> 01:02:40.289 I've ever seen in my life. I mean, the kid just 01:02:40.289 --> 01:02:41.750 jumped in like three seconds ago, and you already 01:02:41.750 --> 01:02:47.389 got thrown out. The gorilla is now gone, but 01:02:47.389 --> 01:02:54.909 yeah, the kid's alive. God. There's so many things 01:02:54.909 --> 01:02:57.289 you could see with time travel. It would also 01:02:57.289 --> 01:03:01.690 be so much fun. Yes. Oh, God, yeah. The problem 01:03:01.690 --> 01:03:02.989 is the amount of trouble we'd all get up to. 01:03:04.360 --> 01:03:08.820 people like us getting a hold of it taking technology 01:03:08.820 --> 01:03:12.139 back to like a an island somewhere and setting 01:03:12.139 --> 01:03:14.840 up like an impenetrable pirate fortress fuck 01:03:14.840 --> 01:03:18.219 yes see here's the thing i would be the pirate 01:03:18.219 --> 01:03:20.719 of the high seas in the 17th century that's the 01:03:20.719 --> 01:03:24.699 problem i would embrace it with all take a fucking 01:03:24.699 --> 01:03:27.579 modern aircraft carrier back to the like the 01:03:27.579 --> 01:03:30.219 1600s and just sail the seas what are they gonna 01:03:30.219 --> 01:03:34.019 do knowing that maybe just take like A treasure 01:03:34.019 --> 01:03:35.920 trove of modern firearms. And just have like 01:03:35.920 --> 01:03:38.639 books on how to do it. And just be like. Alright 01:03:38.639 --> 01:03:41.119 so I own this island and everything on it now. 01:03:41.380 --> 01:03:43.860 And you're going to build these for me. And if 01:03:43.860 --> 01:03:47.559 you don't like it. I can solve the problem. I'll 01:03:47.559 --> 01:03:50.360 tell you. You can be such a warlord overnight. 01:03:51.519 --> 01:03:54.960 Oh yeah. Though I will say. If I could go back 01:03:54.960 --> 01:03:58.380 in time and change anything. Is smack the MF 01:03:58.380 --> 01:04:04.050 'er. That changed snack packs. Oh yeah. The chocolate 01:04:04.050 --> 01:04:07.190 snack pack pudding cups, they used to come in 01:04:07.190 --> 01:04:10.409 a metal tin. And when you open that tin up, you 01:04:10.409 --> 01:04:13.389 still had the pudding skin on the pudding. It 01:04:13.389 --> 01:04:16.889 was amazing. And it tasted like it was cooked 01:04:16.889 --> 01:04:21.070 fresh. Not this crap now where you can't tell 01:04:21.070 --> 01:04:23.489 if it's been made last week or six months ago. 01:04:24.289 --> 01:04:27.809 You know, this actually like my childhood, it's 01:04:27.809 --> 01:04:31.239 like you open that up. And God forbid if that 01:04:31.239 --> 01:04:34.099 ring broke off the metal lid, because then you 01:04:34.099 --> 01:04:37.840 were like, you're screwed. But yeah, whoever 01:04:37.840 --> 01:04:40.780 decided to make that change should have the shit 01:04:40.780 --> 01:04:44.000 beat out of them. If I could change things, I 01:04:44.000 --> 01:04:46.960 would absolutely change that. Snack packs taught 01:04:46.960 --> 01:04:50.639 me some of my most valuable life lessons. Learning 01:04:50.639 --> 01:04:53.159 how to eat those things without a spoon. Yes. 01:04:54.800 --> 01:04:57.780 Or try to open it up without cutting an artery. 01:04:58.019 --> 01:05:01.460 That too. man now you have me thinking of like 01:05:01.460 --> 01:05:03.880 og pizza back in like the early 2000s when it 01:05:03.880 --> 01:05:07.300 was good uh or or even mcdonald's pizza back 01:05:07.300 --> 01:05:11.059 in the day i never got to try it oh it was actually 01:05:11.059 --> 01:05:14.079 not terrible there was also mcdonald's spaghetti 01:05:14.079 --> 01:05:18.719 that was interesting i don't know i don't know 01:05:18.719 --> 01:05:22.360 what was that like campbell's that was reheated 01:05:22.360 --> 01:05:27.000 i don't know with now with 3d printed chicken 01:05:30.480 --> 01:05:34.420 Oh, okay. So there's something. Imagine taking 01:05:34.420 --> 01:05:37.940 something like a 3D printer back to the 80s or 01:05:37.940 --> 01:05:43.159 90s. Oh, they'd lose their shit. Oh, yeah. Imagine 01:05:43.159 --> 01:05:46.760 taking a Tesla back to the 80s or 90s. It's just 01:05:46.760 --> 01:05:50.280 far enough back where they would understand the 01:05:50.280 --> 01:05:54.099 technology and still be able to utilize it. Yeah. 01:05:54.179 --> 01:05:56.960 But they could make such a technological leap. 01:05:58.559 --> 01:06:01.840 Because of it. Because of it, yeah. Honestly, 01:06:01.880 --> 01:06:04.820 even just like Wi -Fi and Bluetooth and stuff 01:06:04.820 --> 01:06:07.920 like that. Oh, yeah. They would go nuts with 01:06:07.920 --> 01:06:09.460 that, especially our transfer and data speeds. 01:06:10.380 --> 01:06:13.179 Like, holy shit. They were in like megabytes 01:06:13.179 --> 01:06:15.699 per second for bus speeds. And now we're like, 01:06:15.760 --> 01:06:20.320 oh, a casual 300 to 800 gigs per second. They 01:06:20.320 --> 01:06:24.420 would lose their minds. Yeah. What do you mean? 01:06:24.440 --> 01:06:27.619 I can send someone like a 300 by 300 megapixel. 01:06:27.960 --> 01:06:29.760 photo in under a minute what are you talking 01:06:29.760 --> 01:06:31.360 about like it usually takes us 10 minutes like 01:06:31.360 --> 01:06:34.619 buddy i could download a 4k movie in like nine 01:06:34.619 --> 01:06:36.860 seconds flat what are you kidding like what's 01:06:36.860 --> 01:06:39.199 4k oh buddy buddy we have so much to talk to 01:06:39.199 --> 01:06:44.500 you about yeah so that that's a good segue into 01:06:44.500 --> 01:06:48.119 the next section uh technological contamination 01:06:48.119 --> 01:06:52.639 uh the butterfly effect on innovation and this 01:06:52.639 --> 01:06:55.460 is you you were talking about this earlier displace 01:06:55.460 --> 01:06:59.760 technology and the bootstrap paradox. So if a 01:06:59.760 --> 01:07:01.940 time traveler accidentally leaves a modern smartphone, 01:07:02.159 --> 01:07:06.699 say, in 1950, scientists of that era could reverse 01:07:06.699 --> 01:07:09.659 engineer it. So this creates a bootstrap paradox 01:07:09.659 --> 01:07:13.900 or the ontological paradox. The technology has 01:07:13.900 --> 01:07:17.079 no original inventor at that point as its blueprint 01:07:17.079 --> 01:07:21.489 came from the future. Well... I don't know if 01:07:21.489 --> 01:07:24.469 you could take a smartphone and reverse engineer 01:07:24.469 --> 01:07:31.949 it back in 1950 because it's so far ahead. I 01:07:31.949 --> 01:07:34.469 don't want to say it's almost too far ahead because 01:07:34.469 --> 01:07:38.829 of the microprocessors and the transistors and 01:07:38.829 --> 01:07:41.329 all that. They're so small in the phones these 01:07:41.329 --> 01:07:44.210 days. At that point, it would be like, yeah, 01:07:44.230 --> 01:07:47.829 we know what this is, but we don't have the know 01:07:47.829 --> 01:07:54.230 -how. to utilize it in a way yeah i think you'd 01:07:54.230 --> 01:08:00.909 have to do something bigger um less less complicated 01:08:00.909 --> 01:08:05.929 even yeah maybe even take it to something like 01:08:05.929 --> 01:08:10.610 the 70s or 80s or like we're just saying a 3d 01:08:10.610 --> 01:08:13.150 printer back to the 80s or 90s you could get 01:08:13.150 --> 01:08:19.020 away with that So the effect on innovation, the 01:08:19.020 --> 01:08:21.760 introduction of advanced tech could stagnate 01:08:21.760 --> 01:08:24.039 or misfire the native timeline's innovation, 01:08:24.399 --> 01:08:27.180 like giving early inventors a microchip could 01:08:27.180 --> 01:08:29.460 skip the entire industrial and electrical engineering 01:08:29.460 --> 01:08:32.539 era that led to its creation, making it impossible 01:08:32.539 --> 01:08:34.939 for them to mass produce or even understand it. 01:08:36.939 --> 01:08:42.420 Yeah. So let me ask you guys this. This is something 01:08:42.420 --> 01:08:45.020 that I came up with while I was getting all the 01:08:45.020 --> 01:08:49.899 notes together. If the technology is or was freely 01:08:49.899 --> 01:08:53.579 available, what would prevent someone from taking 01:08:53.579 --> 01:08:56.600 an idea or a concept that they were developing, 01:08:56.720 --> 01:09:00.340 say like a game, a program, music, movie, TV 01:09:00.340 --> 01:09:04.359 show, whatever, but somebody else beat them to 01:09:04.359 --> 01:09:08.479 market and going back and getting theirs to market 01:09:08.479 --> 01:09:11.000 first or outright stealing the content altogether. 01:09:12.159 --> 01:09:14.800 If somebody who could actually sing and perform 01:09:15.430 --> 01:09:18.529 but never got a big break or to take all the 01:09:18.529 --> 01:09:20.829 content from somebody like, say, Taylor Swift 01:09:20.829 --> 01:09:24.470 or some other big name and then go back like 01:09:24.470 --> 01:09:27.550 10, 15, 20 years before they ever hit the stage 01:09:27.550 --> 01:09:30.569 and then drop some of their songs as their own 01:09:30.569 --> 01:09:34.329 and take the light off of that person, could 01:09:34.329 --> 01:09:36.609 they theoretically steal their whole catalog? 01:09:37.710 --> 01:09:40.289 A band like Five Finger Death Punch, if somebody 01:09:40.289 --> 01:09:43.569 took their stuff and went back and performed 01:09:43.569 --> 01:09:48.039 it instead of them, could they take the the steam 01:09:48.039 --> 01:09:51.920 away from that band again that's where you're 01:09:51.920 --> 01:09:55.100 creating a paradox because at what point who 01:09:55.100 --> 01:09:58.420 creates what right because if you then took that 01:09:58.420 --> 01:10:02.020 information and then went back in time and then 01:10:02.020 --> 01:10:05.220 ran with it like it was yours you're not the 01:10:05.220 --> 01:10:07.840 original creator of it so where would that information 01:10:07.840 --> 01:10:12.319 have come from at that point you're just reading 01:10:12.319 --> 01:10:15.239 like it's your own at that point yeah right but 01:10:15.239 --> 01:10:18.420 i'm just saying you know at some point they're 01:10:18.420 --> 01:10:20.859 going to be like well how did you create this 01:10:20.859 --> 01:10:23.699 if it's right or what idea came about to make 01:10:23.699 --> 01:10:25.899 this yeah but if it's music with some things 01:10:25.899 --> 01:10:28.560 i think i think you could get away with it with 01:10:28.560 --> 01:10:31.180 like music or something like that now something 01:10:31.180 --> 01:10:35.439 like a movie uh could the same be done to prevent 01:10:35.439 --> 01:10:39.180 epic movie disasters could the star wars sequel 01:10:39.180 --> 01:10:43.420 trilogy be prevented or at least corrected yeah 01:10:45.340 --> 01:10:49.000 maybe what i would say that's a big maybe so 01:10:49.000 --> 01:10:51.180 for stuff that's creative in nature like that 01:10:51.180 --> 01:10:54.779 because people basically how it works legally 01:10:54.779 --> 01:10:57.079 is nobody owns it until someone files a copyright 01:10:57.079 --> 01:11:01.939 for it or for that information so it's one of 01:11:01.939 --> 01:11:03.460 those things where you could theoretically just 01:11:03.460 --> 01:11:05.460 steal everybody's music now go back 30 years 01:11:05.460 --> 01:11:08.500 and write all of it um and you would technically 01:11:08.500 --> 01:11:11.520 own it all you really good you could file patents 01:11:11.520 --> 01:11:14.789 for it and everything like that um For movies, 01:11:14.869 --> 01:11:18.789 what would be interesting is you could theoretically 01:11:18.789 --> 01:11:21.510 tell this person, hey, here's a copy of the movie 01:11:21.510 --> 01:11:23.630 you're trying to make. Here's all the reviews 01:11:23.630 --> 01:11:25.649 and here's the way it could be better. Fucking 01:11:25.649 --> 01:11:29.550 do better. And maybe, maybe they'll be like, 01:11:29.609 --> 01:11:31.590 oh, that's not panning out the way I thought. 01:11:31.869 --> 01:11:33.489 And sometimes what happens, too, if you're making 01:11:33.489 --> 01:11:36.090 a movie or making videos or anything else, it's 01:11:36.090 --> 01:11:37.909 you might have a vision. Maybe the publisher 01:11:37.909 --> 01:11:39.670 or somebody else or someone else has a different 01:11:39.670 --> 01:11:42.180 vision. Maybe it's due to. time constraints or 01:11:42.180 --> 01:11:44.739 budget constraints but you could say hey here's 01:11:44.739 --> 01:11:46.840 what you produced here's what i've used ai to 01:11:46.840 --> 01:11:48.880 generate that should be and would sell and make 01:11:48.880 --> 01:11:53.260 you more money do this do better you could go 01:11:53.260 --> 01:11:55.340 like that route or you could just say you know 01:11:55.340 --> 01:11:57.960 what george lucas i like what you're doing but 01:11:57.960 --> 01:12:01.060 i'm going to take everything put it all out a 01:12:01.060 --> 01:12:03.380 year before so i own everything i'll patent it 01:12:03.380 --> 01:12:05.779 all and that way i can force you i'll come to 01:12:05.779 --> 01:12:07.939 you and hire you and say hey i'll sell you the 01:12:07.939 --> 01:12:11.600 whole thing for one dollar but the agreement 01:12:11.600 --> 01:12:14.600 is you have to do it this way. If you don't like 01:12:14.600 --> 01:12:18.119 it, pound sand. I don't care. And you theoretically 01:12:18.119 --> 01:12:20.460 could, because that way he still owns it, he 01:12:20.460 --> 01:12:22.199 still does whatever. You can make your royalties 01:12:22.199 --> 01:12:24.600 on it, but that way it's more refined, let's 01:12:24.600 --> 01:12:26.640 just say, or more what you want it to do. The 01:12:26.640 --> 01:12:29.380 weird problem that's going to happen is do you 01:12:29.380 --> 01:12:31.939 know how many other fucking crazy nerds are going 01:12:31.939 --> 01:12:33.779 to be traveling back in time and arguing with 01:12:33.779 --> 01:12:36.079 George Lucas? He's going to be the most popular 01:12:36.079 --> 01:12:40.369 man ever. in like 1985 where he's sitting there 01:12:40.369 --> 01:12:43.630 writing. No, no, no. All they have to do is get 01:12:43.630 --> 01:12:46.409 him to sign a clause. Never sell to Disney. Done. 01:12:46.689 --> 01:12:52.810 Yeah. And bring him just pounds of cocaine. Jar 01:12:52.810 --> 01:12:54.930 Jar Binks is a Sith Lord. I need you to repeat 01:12:54.930 --> 01:12:57.729 this after me. This is your monster. This is 01:12:57.729 --> 01:13:00.069 your monster. You will die on this hill. Yes. 01:13:01.409 --> 01:13:03.729 There is no way you convinced me that he's not. 01:13:04.560 --> 01:13:07.020 Just going through that battlefield, just throwing 01:13:07.020 --> 01:13:11.819 droids the way he did. Right. So it could be 01:13:11.819 --> 01:13:13.180 used for a lot of good. I feel like it could 01:13:13.180 --> 01:13:17.260 be absolutely hilarious. But. Oh, yeah. You never 01:13:17.260 --> 01:13:23.399 know. Yeah. Yeah. So this is going to take us 01:13:23.399 --> 01:13:26.739 to the last section. And I wanted to save this 01:13:26.739 --> 01:13:32.199 for last. Using knowledge as weaponry. Systemic 01:13:32.199 --> 01:13:35.659 and cultural upheaval. And this was one of our 01:13:35.659 --> 01:13:40.239 promotional spots for the episode tonight. The 01:13:40.239 --> 01:13:45.199 deconstruction of belief systems, religious and 01:13:45.199 --> 01:13:48.439 philosophical upheaval. If a time traveler were 01:13:48.439 --> 01:13:52.159 to go back and observe and record the precise, 01:13:52.279 --> 01:13:56.380 mundane, or even fraudulent origins of a major 01:13:56.380 --> 01:13:59.460 world religion, spiritual movement, or philosophical 01:13:59.460 --> 01:14:03.569 text. could revealing this information shatter 01:14:03.569 --> 01:14:06.590 the faith of billions overnight, potentially 01:14:06.590 --> 01:14:10.529 leading to mass societal collapse, wars, or existential 01:14:10.529 --> 01:14:14.510 crises as people lose their moral frameworks. 01:14:15.729 --> 01:14:20.130 There'd be a lot of people dead and overnight. 01:14:21.909 --> 01:14:26.069 Like, for example, if you went back, like in 01:14:26.069 --> 01:14:29.739 the promo you did, where... jesus came back after 01:14:29.739 --> 01:14:32.000 three days what if they find out it actually 01:14:32.000 --> 01:14:35.680 took a week because he was just laying out and 01:14:35.680 --> 01:14:38.180 he was recovering from the wounds you know he 01:14:38.180 --> 01:14:40.859 never actually died he was just laid out and 01:14:40.859 --> 01:14:42.939 everybody kept him off to the side saying hey 01:14:42.939 --> 01:14:46.100 no he died but you know don't worry about it 01:14:46.100 --> 01:14:47.619 because they're letting the romans think that 01:14:47.619 --> 01:14:50.720 he died but you find out after a week he actually 01:14:50.720 --> 01:14:53.800 came back but they make it sound like over time 01:14:53.800 --> 01:14:56.180 from passing those stories along before they 01:14:56.180 --> 01:15:00.750 finally published said stories in a book that 01:15:00.750 --> 01:15:03.329 it went from like oh he came back after a week 01:15:03.329 --> 01:15:05.850 and to down to three days just because it made 01:15:05.850 --> 01:15:08.229 it sound good so i want to reference one of our 01:15:08.229 --> 01:15:10.170 earlier episodes on a very similar topic with 01:15:10.170 --> 01:15:13.189 that what if they find out the reason jesus supposedly 01:15:13.189 --> 01:15:14.569 was in that rock for three days because he was 01:15:14.569 --> 01:15:16.130 high off his ass for three days and he showed 01:15:16.130 --> 01:15:19.409 back up now that he was sober because if you 01:15:19.409 --> 01:15:21.189 remember one of our earlier episodes i was talking 01:15:21.189 --> 01:15:22.590 about how most religions are basically people 01:15:22.590 --> 01:15:25.189 high off their ass and i made a very strong case 01:15:25.189 --> 01:15:27.560 for that I even have one of my buddies that's 01:15:27.560 --> 01:15:29.380 religious. Question is existence. It was a great 01:15:29.380 --> 01:15:32.920 fucking weekend. But what if you find out the 01:15:32.920 --> 01:15:34.520 majority of those stories are literally just 01:15:34.520 --> 01:15:36.960 people taking drugs, doing weird stuff, doing 01:15:36.960 --> 01:15:39.359 things that they don't even know. Weird mushrooms, 01:15:39.479 --> 01:15:41.920 whatever. Like, he was gone for three days. It's 01:15:41.920 --> 01:15:43.720 like you were just on a bad trip for like eight 01:15:43.720 --> 01:15:46.619 hours. Like, to you it felt like three days. 01:15:46.760 --> 01:15:48.859 But you just had some really fucked up shit, 01:15:48.960 --> 01:15:51.439 bro. And that's what I wonder is how many of 01:15:51.439 --> 01:15:56.380 those preconceived notions and ideas. would absolutely 01:15:56.380 --> 01:15:58.640 tear apart most religions, or even some countries, 01:15:58.739 --> 01:16:00.420 too, in terms of, like, their royal families, 01:16:00.520 --> 01:16:03.199 for example. The entire Middle East? Oh, yeah. 01:16:03.399 --> 01:16:06.220 Oh, yeah. It'd be a PvP zone. That's all that 01:16:06.220 --> 01:16:08.460 would be. All of a sudden, PvP zone. All that 01:16:08.460 --> 01:16:13.100 loot. That's all it is. But what about the burning 01:16:13.100 --> 01:16:15.880 bush? The rock of the religion is wrong. Yeah. 01:16:16.020 --> 01:16:18.500 Oh, the burning bush? Yeah, that was crack. No, 01:16:18.560 --> 01:16:22.680 you ate a bad mushroom, and you were hallucinating. 01:16:22.760 --> 01:16:27.010 Yes. yeah either that or you had one crazy guy 01:16:27.010 --> 01:16:29.350 in the town that for some reason was the biggest 01:16:29.350 --> 01:16:31.029 strongest guy he said yeah sure the birdie bush 01:16:31.029 --> 01:16:32.909 yeah whatever just don't fucking kill me yeah 01:16:32.909 --> 01:16:36.229 sure whatever you say buddy you know right it's 01:16:36.229 --> 01:16:39.449 very possible i saw a bush it was on fire i was 01:16:39.449 --> 01:16:46.550 so messed up right yeah so if proof of the air 01:16:46.550 --> 01:16:50.390 quote true events were brought back like video 01:16:50.390 --> 01:16:53.560 footage artifacts or whatnot How would modern 01:16:53.560 --> 01:16:55.939 institutions and governments handle the resulting 01:16:55.939 --> 01:16:59.859 truth -driven global panic? So imagine there's 01:16:59.859 --> 01:17:05.500 proof of some of these events pointing out information 01:17:05.500 --> 01:17:08.859 one way or the other. Maybe they have something 01:17:08.859 --> 01:17:12.220 that completely disproves one of the major taught 01:17:12.220 --> 01:17:18.399 aspects of something. What could anyone do to 01:17:18.399 --> 01:17:23.829 prevent mass panic? Nothing. You mean like government 01:17:23.829 --> 01:17:28.010 cover -ups? I guess. Once that information's 01:17:28.010 --> 01:17:30.069 out there, it's out there, bro. Especially with 01:17:30.069 --> 01:17:34.130 our technology now. So now, let me go a step 01:17:34.130 --> 01:17:40.729 further. Erasing national identity. There are 01:17:40.729 --> 01:17:43.229 entire nations based off of faith at this point. 01:17:44.189 --> 01:17:46.689 So a hostile power could travel back to gather 01:17:46.689 --> 01:17:49.050 definitive proof that a founding national myth, 01:17:49.289 --> 01:17:52.760 a war victory, or a revered hero, was a lie, 01:17:52.760 --> 01:17:56.520 a fraud, or based on immoral acts. This targeted 01:17:56.520 --> 01:17:59.140 revelation could delegitimize a current government 01:17:59.140 --> 01:18:01.960 and destabilize an entire country's sense of 01:18:01.960 --> 01:18:06.079 self -purpose. Yeah, like you said, the Middle 01:18:06.079 --> 01:18:08.760 East, they find out Muhammad was just a normal 01:18:08.760 --> 01:18:11.899 dude that was a pedophile. And he didn't do any 01:18:11.899 --> 01:18:15.359 of the crap that they wrote. That would totally 01:18:15.359 --> 01:18:17.699 destroy half the countries in the Middle East. 01:18:18.649 --> 01:18:21.090 You talk about China or Russia or any of those 01:18:21.090 --> 01:18:23.949 other countries that have very centralized powers. 01:18:24.770 --> 01:18:26.569 There's some information that could get out there 01:18:26.569 --> 01:18:28.670 that could really destabilize or possibly even 01:18:28.670 --> 01:18:33.409 turn them over. Right. Or like the Kim family 01:18:33.409 --> 01:18:37.109 never had any claim to the palace in the first 01:18:37.109 --> 01:18:39.920 place. In North Korea. You know how funny it 01:18:39.920 --> 01:18:41.260 would be if we developed time travel and we just 01:18:41.260 --> 01:18:42.579 didn't fucking tell them and kept messing with 01:18:42.579 --> 01:18:46.680 North Korea? Oh, my God. Oh, my Lord. I'd mess 01:18:46.680 --> 01:18:49.260 with them just to mess with them. I could not 01:18:49.260 --> 01:18:51.380 wait to read those news articles every morning. 01:18:51.439 --> 01:18:53.899 Like, Kim Jong -un suddenly grows third arm out 01:18:53.899 --> 01:18:56.739 of his ass. We don't know why. It just, oh, man. 01:18:56.760 --> 01:19:00.840 Oh, my God. Oh, shit. Oh, man. I'd have so much 01:19:00.840 --> 01:19:04.840 fun messing with them. Oh, Jesus. If the time 01:19:04.840 --> 01:19:07.180 travel technology got out to people like us, 01:19:08.329 --> 01:19:12.489 the the fuck around and and and find out of of 01:19:12.489 --> 01:19:15.949 mentality that people like us would have or just 01:19:15.949 --> 01:19:18.550 the fuck around mentality in fact the amount 01:19:18.550 --> 01:19:22.109 of historical photos you'd see fafo behind them 01:19:22.109 --> 01:19:26.329 as like my little freaking insignia just so people 01:19:26.329 --> 01:19:29.029 knew and only you would know if i told you but 01:19:29.029 --> 01:19:31.470 you'd be like wow it's weird this isn't like 01:19:31.470 --> 01:19:34.829 a lot of historical photos oh i know oh i know 01:19:34.829 --> 01:19:39.979 i know Oh, man. Go back to the creation of the 01:19:39.979 --> 01:19:42.479 Bill of Rights. No, listen, you need to explain 01:19:42.479 --> 01:19:47.600 it like people are five. Yes. Right? Slavery, 01:19:47.640 --> 01:19:56.340 bad, guns, good. Yeah. Bad. So you could continually 01:19:56.340 --> 01:19:59.859 use time travel to undermine governance. Future 01:19:59.859 --> 01:20:02.060 knowledge could be used to predict and therefore 01:20:02.060 --> 01:20:05.289 deliberately sabotage. Specific political events 01:20:05.289 --> 01:20:07.989 like elections, treaty signings, peace negotiations, 01:20:08.409 --> 01:20:12.829 whatnot, ensuring a rival nation gains a permanent 01:20:12.829 --> 01:20:21.409 advantage or disadvantage. So you could sit there 01:20:21.409 --> 01:20:25.350 and just make sure that one nation is never able 01:20:25.350 --> 01:20:28.970 to get a foothold in any aspect of the world. 01:20:32.279 --> 01:20:34.500 You could prevent Russia from ever rising to 01:20:34.500 --> 01:20:39.899 power in any aspect and prevent all kinds of 01:20:39.899 --> 01:20:46.579 different things. Or China. Or Cambodia. Or Vietnam. 01:20:46.899 --> 01:20:48.500 It'd be really weird that some of history would 01:20:48.500 --> 01:20:50.500 be rewritten where America just didn't stop after 01:20:50.500 --> 01:20:52.840 we took back Germany. We just kept going. For 01:20:52.840 --> 01:20:54.560 some reason, I don't know how America just keeps 01:20:54.560 --> 01:20:59.399 going. It's crazy. Just kept on ruling, baby. 01:20:59.579 --> 01:21:04.000 It's crazy. They just kept saying something about 01:21:04.000 --> 01:21:06.199 oil, and they just kept going. It's weird. The 01:21:06.199 --> 01:21:08.960 Eastern Front went all the way to Japan. I don't 01:21:08.960 --> 01:21:11.420 know how that happened. It just kept fucking 01:21:11.420 --> 01:21:15.659 rolling. That's a war game that I don't think 01:21:15.659 --> 01:21:18.979 we've ever talked about, is what if the U .S. 01:21:18.979 --> 01:21:21.220 would have kept going? What if we became the 01:21:21.220 --> 01:21:24.279 bad guy? Yeah, but we're not really the bad guy. 01:21:24.439 --> 01:21:26.399 I mean, we're saving them from communist Russia. 01:21:29.430 --> 01:21:31.609 We'd be a bad guy, but not really the bad guy. 01:21:31.750 --> 01:21:33.770 Yeah, we kind of defeated the two other bad guys. 01:21:34.069 --> 01:21:35.869 Well, really, Mussolini, too, so the three bad 01:21:35.869 --> 01:21:40.010 guys. Yes. The Japan. Okay, so four. All right. 01:21:40.170 --> 01:21:49.250 Yeah. We could have. Oh, yeah. So, lastly, you've 01:21:49.250 --> 01:21:53.050 got economic system collapse, temporal insider 01:21:53.050 --> 01:21:56.760 trading. the ability to know the precise date 01:21:56.760 --> 01:21:58.859 and cause of every future stock market crash, 01:21:59.140 --> 01:22:02.060 economic bubble burst, or currency collapse, 01:22:02.359 --> 01:22:05.460 like you had talked about earlier. It's not just 01:22:05.460 --> 01:22:08.520 a tool for wealth. It's a tool for economic assassination. 01:22:09.739 --> 01:22:12.640 A rival power could use this knowledge to systematically 01:22:12.640 --> 01:22:15.920 bankrupt entire nations or just outright render 01:22:15.920 --> 01:22:18.300 their currency worthless and their industry defunct. 01:22:19.720 --> 01:22:25.340 Yeah. I mean, just think about how... China where 01:22:25.340 --> 01:22:27.920 they are right now. They got there literally 01:22:27.920 --> 01:22:31.399 in 10 to 15 years. You could go back and prevent 01:22:31.399 --> 01:22:34.579 one or two key events and they're still stuck 01:22:34.579 --> 01:22:37.720 in the rice fields. Yeah, you just tell American 01:22:37.720 --> 01:22:40.520 politicians in the 1980s, hey, chip manufacturing 01:22:40.520 --> 01:22:42.619 like TSMC and Samsung, they got to be making 01:22:42.619 --> 01:22:45.079 stuff here. China, this is why. And show them 01:22:45.079 --> 01:22:47.500 now and they'd be like, oh, okay. And that's 01:22:47.500 --> 01:22:50.699 it. You could change entire economic events like 01:22:50.699 --> 01:22:54.279 that. Or you could say like, hey, America, you 01:22:54.279 --> 01:22:57.300 should probably have like hemp legalized and 01:22:57.300 --> 01:22:59.800 not have marijuana on like a schedule one drug. 01:23:00.439 --> 01:23:02.020 And that way, all of a sudden, all these businesses 01:23:02.020 --> 01:23:03.460 would open up. All of a sudden, America would 01:23:03.460 --> 01:23:05.979 thrive 20, 30 years before the rest of the country 01:23:05.979 --> 01:23:07.680 started to legalize them in the Western world. 01:23:08.079 --> 01:23:09.399 So there's a lot of things you could do that 01:23:09.399 --> 01:23:11.600 might seem like a small change, but would be 01:23:11.600 --> 01:23:15.479 fucking drastic. Or in my case, I'd be going 01:23:15.479 --> 01:23:17.600 back in time and fucking beat the fuck out of 01:23:17.600 --> 01:23:21.079 whoever was in the. the epa for doing the death 01:23:21.079 --> 01:23:22.979 fuel and all the diesel fucking emission shit 01:23:22.979 --> 01:23:25.319 jesus christ whoever you are you're an asshole 01:23:25.319 --> 01:23:28.699 because all you're doing is fucking up the entire 01:23:28.699 --> 01:23:30.800 diesel industry so bad so they might be getting 01:23:30.800 --> 01:23:37.640 rid of them so hopefully hopefully yeah so think 01:23:37.640 --> 01:23:40.600 about uh taking a technological breakthrough 01:23:40.600 --> 01:23:45.159 from our time back to a time where it could be 01:23:45.159 --> 01:23:48.300 implemented a little bit easier Something like 01:23:48.300 --> 01:23:51.039 you were just talking about, like the secret 01:23:51.039 --> 01:23:53.819 of cheap, limitless energy. If you could take 01:23:53.819 --> 01:23:56.720 fusion technology where we have it now back to 01:23:56.720 --> 01:24:00.699 the 1960s or 70s when they were like actively 01:24:00.699 --> 01:24:02.819 pursuing it. Honestly, I really feel like if 01:24:02.819 --> 01:24:05.420 you brought efficient, modern solar panels back 01:24:05.420 --> 01:24:08.279 then and gave them that head start, you'd now 01:24:08.279 --> 01:24:10.300 have like if you brought it back to the 60s, 01:24:10.300 --> 01:24:12.579 they had another 40, 50 years to develop. Today, 01:24:12.659 --> 01:24:15.279 every shingle will be solar. Every building would 01:24:15.279 --> 01:24:17.319 just have solar roofs and that would be it. You 01:24:17.319 --> 01:24:19.220 wouldn't even need external power for most people. 01:24:20.420 --> 01:24:23.180 Yeah, but in doing so, you could instantaneously 01:24:23.180 --> 01:24:26.119 destroy the fossil fuel industry and associated 01:24:26.119 --> 01:24:30.039 economies, creating global chaos before the new 01:24:30.039 --> 01:24:33.319 tech is ready for development. So you could destabilize 01:24:33.319 --> 01:24:36.779 a whole lot of shit real quick. Yeah, but we'd 01:24:36.779 --> 01:24:39.260 be able to be self -sufficient though. It'd be 01:24:39.260 --> 01:24:40.720 kind of more of a Middle East problem at that 01:24:40.720 --> 01:24:43.899 point. basically. Yeah. But they've been trying 01:24:43.899 --> 01:24:46.399 to kill themselves for 3000 years. So build a 01:24:46.399 --> 01:24:53.500 wall around them. So here's a discussion question 01:24:53.500 --> 01:25:05.060 for you. We have a situation where if, if a government 01:25:05.060 --> 01:25:08.920 were to acquire knowledge that proves a central 01:25:08.920 --> 01:25:12.619 tenant of a major rival, society's existence 01:25:12.619 --> 01:25:16.279 is false would there ever be a moral justification 01:25:16.279 --> 01:25:19.539 for withholding that truth to maintain global 01:25:19.539 --> 01:25:25.239 stability depends maybe depends on how serious 01:25:25.239 --> 01:25:28.640 it is you know what i mean right even that i 01:25:28.640 --> 01:25:30.640 feel like now too honestly a lot of people just 01:25:30.640 --> 01:25:33.619 don't give a fuck about things so like if you 01:25:33.619 --> 01:25:35.859 said that like 20 years ago back when like our 01:25:35.859 --> 01:25:37.720 country was more unified maybe but i don't think 01:25:37.720 --> 01:25:39.000 there's anything you could tell people that would 01:25:39.000 --> 01:25:43.979 like cause everyone to mass panic yeah unless 01:25:43.979 --> 01:25:46.920 it was like hey the walking dead starts tomorrow 01:25:46.920 --> 01:25:49.680 irl like good luck they'll be like okay maybe 01:25:49.680 --> 01:25:52.119 people would panic but like or like or if it 01:25:52.119 --> 01:25:54.079 was um not not walking dead what was the other 01:25:54.079 --> 01:25:57.640 um world war z or whatever when they run or like 01:25:57.640 --> 01:26:00.260 i if you if you told everyone tomorrow oh by 01:26:00.260 --> 01:26:02.600 the way it's i am legend fucking good luck yeah 01:26:02.600 --> 01:26:05.380 people would fucking panic but like besides that 01:26:05.380 --> 01:26:08.979 like so okay that takes me back to the people 01:26:08.979 --> 01:26:10.680 like us would like to fuck around with people 01:26:10.680 --> 01:26:14.220 uh if you are a time traveler and you go back 01:26:14.220 --> 01:26:16.500 and people know without a doubt you are a time 01:26:16.500 --> 01:26:19.819 traveler yeah or you flat say look i'm a time 01:26:19.819 --> 01:26:23.060 traveler and i've come from the future have the 01:26:23.060 --> 01:26:26.560 zombies started yet all right first of all fuck 01:26:26.560 --> 01:26:31.380 you because that's ridiculous you could ask them 01:26:31.380 --> 01:26:33.079 oh how did you handle this handle the zombie 01:26:33.079 --> 01:26:35.819 apocalypse they'd be saying what oh sorry that 01:26:35.819 --> 01:26:37.600 hasn't happened and then you just like and then 01:26:37.600 --> 01:26:39.680 you just like check your watch you're like shit 01:26:39.680 --> 01:26:42.079 i'm too early and then you just like click out 01:26:42.079 --> 01:26:45.340 you know that explains why the u .s government 01:26:45.340 --> 01:26:47.380 suddenly has a zombie preparedness preparedness 01:26:47.380 --> 01:26:50.840 you know right con plan 8888 that's why it exists 01:26:50.840 --> 01:26:53.560 that offhand is kind of concerning but anyways 01:26:53.560 --> 01:27:01.979 that's shush you okay i i have Some exit questions 01:27:01.979 --> 01:27:05.060 for the listeners. Can I make a quick case about 01:27:05.060 --> 01:27:07.199 something before you get to that? Absolutely. 01:27:07.560 --> 01:27:10.640 So I wanted to have a quick thought discussion 01:27:10.640 --> 01:27:12.560 and prove to you why time travel cannot exist. 01:27:14.260 --> 01:27:17.260 Okay. Very simple. In order for you to travel 01:27:17.260 --> 01:27:19.380 back in time, you have to have three -dimensional 01:27:19.380 --> 01:27:24.140 coordinates, correct? Maybe. So here's the problem 01:27:24.140 --> 01:27:28.300 we have. If you go back in time. The usual assumption 01:27:28.300 --> 01:27:31.520 is that you have to know the 3D coordinates of 01:27:31.520 --> 01:27:35.039 where to be at, correct? Well, guess what? You're 01:27:35.039 --> 01:27:37.399 going to play on the fact that everything is 01:27:37.399 --> 01:27:39.600 moving throughout time and space. There is no 01:27:39.600 --> 01:27:42.659 relative. We don't know the absolute point. So 01:27:42.659 --> 01:27:44.920 then the problem is you're going to spend thousands 01:27:44.920 --> 01:27:47.319 of years blindly sending people back and be like, 01:27:47.420 --> 01:27:49.560 I wonder if he made it. It'd be like, oh, he 01:27:49.560 --> 01:27:52.260 was off by 5 million miles. Because we don't 01:27:52.260 --> 01:27:55.600 know right now. Where the planet sits relative 01:27:55.600 --> 01:27:58.600 to everything else in terms of exactly. There 01:27:58.600 --> 01:28:00.960 is no way to exactly know that because the galaxy 01:28:00.960 --> 01:28:03.640 is traveling at a certain speed and our solar 01:28:03.640 --> 01:28:05.760 system is traveling. There's so many layers of 01:28:05.760 --> 01:28:09.500 variables that good fucking luck. So figure that 01:28:09.500 --> 01:28:12.720 out. Let me big brain you for a second. We know 01:28:12.720 --> 01:28:15.720 where things were X amount of time ago. Sort 01:28:15.720 --> 01:28:20.720 of. So if we stack that equation linearly, we 01:28:20.720 --> 01:28:24.640 could re extrapolate back and get. at least a 01:28:24.640 --> 01:28:27.279 rough enough coordinate where we could send test 01:28:27.279 --> 01:28:29.380 objects. Yeah, it's going to be really weird 01:28:29.380 --> 01:28:31.380 when a banana tears the wall out of nowhere. 01:28:31.960 --> 01:28:35.899 You got to understand, it's going to be fucking 01:28:35.899 --> 01:28:38.500 weird for them to calibrate that and figure that 01:28:38.500 --> 01:28:41.539 out, especially when you consider, if you look 01:28:41.539 --> 01:28:45.119 at the way the Earth's mass has changed and sort 01:28:45.119 --> 01:28:47.260 of evolved between different layers of water, 01:28:47.439 --> 01:28:49.159 different water densities, you have to factor 01:28:49.159 --> 01:28:50.600 in the moon and stuff like that, pulling it in 01:28:50.600 --> 01:28:53.050 different ways. If you could figure out that 01:28:53.050 --> 01:28:56.510 complex equation, you could do it. But that would 01:28:56.510 --> 01:28:59.909 dwarf any math that we have ever done. It wouldn't 01:28:59.909 --> 01:29:02.109 just be traveling back in time. It would be find 01:29:02.109 --> 01:29:05.689 that exact point. We need AI to do it. It would. 01:29:05.710 --> 01:29:08.529 You would. We need ridiculous amounts of data. 01:29:08.590 --> 01:29:12.189 We need quantum backed AI. Yes. So I just want 01:29:12.189 --> 01:29:13.890 to point that out that there's no other thing 01:29:13.890 --> 01:29:15.569 I could think of, even a Star Trek or anything 01:29:15.569 --> 01:29:18.050 else that ever, ever discussed that, like everything 01:29:18.050 --> 01:29:21.699 is moving in space. in all three directions simultaneously 01:29:21.699 --> 01:29:25.899 so you got to factor that in and we don't have 01:29:25.899 --> 01:29:29.020 enough data to ever even consider that so just 01:29:29.020 --> 01:29:35.859 throw that out there we we kind of do and i say 01:29:35.859 --> 01:29:39.399 kind of because again we know more or less where 01:29:39.399 --> 01:29:42.539 things were a second ago we know where things 01:29:42.539 --> 01:29:47.399 were a minute ago we could re -extrapolate So 01:29:47.399 --> 01:29:50.880 I guess the problem is it's a very complex equation. 01:29:50.939 --> 01:29:53.079 There's no way of knowing because we'd have no 01:29:53.079 --> 01:29:54.939 reference in the universe that's not moving. 01:29:55.659 --> 01:29:57.819 Everything is moving. Correct. So therefore, 01:29:57.939 --> 01:30:01.279 there is no reference. So you're going to have 01:30:01.279 --> 01:30:02.840 to try, but it's going to be really weird when 01:30:02.840 --> 01:30:06.140 someone just pops into existence like 3 ,000 01:30:06.140 --> 01:30:08.180 miles away from Mars, just sitting there, and 01:30:08.180 --> 01:30:09.659 then he disappears. You're like, what the fuck? 01:30:09.760 --> 01:30:11.340 Like, oh, sorry, we had the wrong coordinates. 01:30:12.159 --> 01:30:14.840 Well, that's what happened down in Miami. beginning 01:30:14.840 --> 01:30:17.060 of the year dude imagine if that was what it 01:30:17.060 --> 01:30:23.819 was imagine like oops yeah one of these days 01:30:23.819 --> 01:30:26.680 we'll have to cover that in detail oh we're going 01:30:26.680 --> 01:30:28.539 to do an episode on that we got a few conspiracies 01:30:28.539 --> 01:30:30.560 we got to start covering we haven't done any 01:30:30.560 --> 01:30:33.800 since the mandalay bay one no we haven't we need 01:30:33.800 --> 01:30:37.659 to get on that train we'll get there um all right 01:30:37.659 --> 01:30:41.779 so questions for the listeners and this is kind 01:30:41.779 --> 01:30:46.619 of a two -parter So you have a ticket to Berlin, 01:30:46.800 --> 01:30:52.060 1939. You're able to get in the room with the 01:30:52.060 --> 01:30:55.020 man. I'm not going to say his name, but you know 01:30:55.020 --> 01:30:58.380 who I'm talking about. Do you pull the trigger? 01:30:59.359 --> 01:31:03.319 And if you do, there's a chance that you cease 01:31:03.319 --> 01:31:08.119 to exist because of the way events unfold there 01:31:08.119 --> 01:31:12.739 going forward. i mean if i cease to exist it's 01:31:12.739 --> 01:31:15.220 i know if i cease to exist it's suddenly not 01:31:15.220 --> 01:31:19.640 my problem so like and this is again linear timeline 01:31:19.640 --> 01:31:25.460 theory yeah no i'm good i'd still do it for the 01:31:25.460 --> 01:31:27.760 greater good you know okay take my chance so 01:31:27.760 --> 01:31:32.399 secondarily if you go back further to 18 what 01:31:32.399 --> 01:31:36.159 89 i think it was and kill the monster as a baby 01:31:36.159 --> 01:31:42.319 are you a hero or a child murderer And with the 01:31:42.319 --> 01:31:45.899 idea that time wants to happen, if you kill him, 01:31:46.000 --> 01:31:48.479 does somebody else just rise to take his place? 01:31:50.399 --> 01:31:52.979 So I know you're going by the thing of like he 01:31:52.979 --> 01:31:55.020 hasn't committed the crime yet, but that would 01:31:55.020 --> 01:31:56.439 be the assumption if there's been enough data 01:31:56.439 --> 01:31:58.760 to assume that you have the correct linear timeline 01:31:58.760 --> 01:32:00.699 and that it's going to happen. It's a guarantee. 01:32:01.460 --> 01:32:03.279 It's going to happen. If that's the case, then... 01:32:04.560 --> 01:32:08.159 You know, late term abortions come into a Germantown 01:32:08.159 --> 01:32:12.239 near you. But like, whereas, sorry, I know that 01:32:12.239 --> 01:32:15.579 stuff is bad. But if you knew it was linear, 01:32:15.720 --> 01:32:18.220 then yes. But if it was a branch timeline, then 01:32:18.220 --> 01:32:20.399 you just abduct the kid and bring him somewhere 01:32:20.399 --> 01:32:24.779 else. Yeah. Yeah. Or just go back further, you 01:32:24.779 --> 01:32:27.420 know, further, you know, far into a point of 01:32:27.420 --> 01:32:29.340 the past where you could just be like, hey, look, 01:32:29.460 --> 01:32:33.539 bro, I know you like art. And we know you like 01:32:33.539 --> 01:32:38.739 strudel. How about we go into cooking? Or make 01:32:38.739 --> 01:32:42.899 sure he does get into art school. Right. It's 01:32:42.899 --> 01:32:44.880 really weird. This guy just gets like this benefactor 01:32:44.880 --> 01:32:46.760 that gives him a billion dollars in Germany in 01:32:46.760 --> 01:32:49.560 1928. Somehow out of nowhere. We don't know how. 01:32:49.819 --> 01:32:54.600 It's really weird. That'd be kind of funny. So, 01:32:54.720 --> 01:32:57.140 okay. Here's the next one. And again, these are 01:32:57.140 --> 01:33:00.359 for the listeners. So I want to hear from you 01:33:00.359 --> 01:33:02.539 guys listening. What are your thoughts on this? 01:33:03.720 --> 01:33:06.140 If the government can view any moment in the 01:33:06.140 --> 01:33:10.420 past, privacy is effectively dead. No crime would 01:33:10.420 --> 01:33:13.760 go unsolved, but no secret, personal or political, 01:33:13.899 --> 01:33:17.119 would ever be safe. So would a surveillance state 01:33:17.119 --> 01:33:21.260 ever be acceptable in any degree if it covers 01:33:21.260 --> 01:33:26.699 the past as well? Now I feel like this is a very 01:33:26.699 --> 01:33:30.159 American thing because we do not like surveillance. 01:33:30.890 --> 01:33:33.670 Other countries maybe are more comfortable with 01:33:33.670 --> 01:33:36.470 it. The problem you have is once one country 01:33:36.470 --> 01:33:39.710 go back in time, your laws are irrelevant. So 01:33:39.710 --> 01:33:41.430 let's just let's take a country that loves a 01:33:41.430 --> 01:33:43.350 surveillance state like England, for example, 01:33:43.350 --> 01:33:46.829 right now with their digital ID and their cameras 01:33:46.829 --> 01:33:49.270 or anything like that, because they can go back 01:33:49.270 --> 01:33:50.869 in time in England. That means they can also 01:33:50.869 --> 01:33:53.310 go back in time here. So it's the problem of 01:33:53.310 --> 01:33:55.409 like once one state can do it, we could technically 01:33:55.409 --> 01:33:57.210 outlawed here in America, but it doesn't mean 01:33:57.210 --> 01:33:59.090 it's outlawed because there's no way to enforce 01:33:59.090 --> 01:34:04.029 it. So it's the problem of like, once it's considered 01:34:04.029 --> 01:34:09.850 acceptable in any capacity, it's all okay. There's 01:34:09.850 --> 01:34:13.289 no such thing. So it's like, unfortunately, once 01:34:13.289 --> 01:34:16.029 you open that Pandora's box, you are a surveillance 01:34:16.029 --> 01:34:19.470 state, whether you like it or not. That's like, 01:34:19.649 --> 01:34:22.930 right now, you can't say anything. If it's construed 01:34:22.930 --> 01:34:25.909 as a hate crime, you're going to jail. Oh, yeah. 01:34:26.460 --> 01:34:28.600 You get your shit confiscated. There was a guy 01:34:28.600 --> 01:34:30.659 in England, just so you guys know what's going 01:34:30.659 --> 01:34:32.579 on, why we're referencing this. There was a guy 01:34:32.579 --> 01:34:34.420 in England that visited America, went to a gun 01:34:34.420 --> 01:34:36.659 range, and just took a photo holding a shotgun. 01:34:36.779 --> 01:34:38.500 I just saw that. And he got arrested back in 01:34:38.500 --> 01:34:39.939 England for having a photo that could offend 01:34:39.939 --> 01:34:41.699 people that he was holding a shotgun. Which, 01:34:41.739 --> 01:34:43.720 by the way, shotguns are illegal to have in the 01:34:43.720 --> 01:34:45.340 UK if you have a hunting license, so I figured 01:34:45.340 --> 01:34:47.560 that one out. But the only reason why I'm saying 01:34:47.560 --> 01:34:49.699 this is if they could do that now without the 01:34:49.699 --> 01:34:51.420 ability to time travel, if they did have the 01:34:51.420 --> 01:34:54.909 ability to time travel, huh. They would arrest 01:34:54.909 --> 01:34:56.770 you for stuff you never did or could possibly 01:34:56.770 --> 01:35:01.970 maybe kind of sort of do. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Go 01:35:01.970 --> 01:35:04.630 back to your parents and tell you, guess what? 01:35:04.689 --> 01:35:07.510 You two can't shag because you're going to produce 01:35:07.510 --> 01:35:11.170 a child that potentially offended Muhammad Ali 01:35:11.170 --> 01:35:15.250 or, you know, some retard from, you know, that's 01:35:15.250 --> 01:35:24.530 a refugee on, you know, claiming asylum. And 01:35:24.530 --> 01:35:27.130 you might potentially upset them because you 01:35:27.130 --> 01:35:29.770 said, hey, maybe you should fight for your own 01:35:29.770 --> 01:35:32.810 country, try to get laws in your own country 01:35:32.810 --> 01:35:35.109 good, so that way you don't need to come here 01:35:35.109 --> 01:35:38.069 to ours and sit on the social welfare state. 01:35:38.210 --> 01:35:43.470 That's just me. Sorry. So, all right, next question. 01:35:43.569 --> 01:35:48.029 If time travel were real, is history just a subjective 01:35:48.029 --> 01:35:50.289 narrative written by the last person who changed 01:35:50.289 --> 01:35:55.659 it? A hundred percent. Yeah. Yeah. Well, they 01:35:55.659 --> 01:35:58.439 always say that history is written by the winners. 01:35:58.659 --> 01:36:01.800 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, here's the crazy part is 01:36:01.800 --> 01:36:04.600 technically if your linear timeline theory is 01:36:04.600 --> 01:36:07.239 correct, you don't know whether history is real 01:36:07.239 --> 01:36:10.539 or not, even right now. Right. So that's the 01:36:10.539 --> 01:36:13.460 only reason why I say it's not real is just because 01:36:13.460 --> 01:36:15.579 I feel like we'd see some really weird discrepancies 01:36:15.579 --> 01:36:16.960 because there's no way they could get it all 01:36:16.960 --> 01:36:20.600 done at one go or at the same point. They did 01:36:20.600 --> 01:36:23.159 it all over the course of a millennia, and we're 01:36:23.159 --> 01:36:26.220 just living through it. So who knows? But I feel 01:36:26.220 --> 01:36:27.899 like our history is way too weird for it to be 01:36:27.899 --> 01:36:30.579 well thought out. There's a lot of weird bullshit 01:36:30.579 --> 01:36:34.619 that we see. And it all cycles back to 2012. 01:36:36.579 --> 01:36:38.819 I'm telling you, CERN's first test was in 2012. 01:36:39.819 --> 01:36:44.539 I'm telling you. We got the weird timeline. See, 01:36:44.579 --> 01:36:49.029 that's the problem. Timeline's merged. We're 01:36:49.029 --> 01:36:51.369 in the weird one. Is that the cornucopia thing 01:36:51.369 --> 01:36:54.750 all over again? Yes, the fruit of the limb cornucopia. 01:36:55.670 --> 01:37:00.569 Yeah, I remember it. Here's the big one. You 01:37:00.569 --> 01:37:04.489 have a chance to go back in time to try to prevent 01:37:04.489 --> 01:37:07.789 the death of one person that would affect millions. 01:37:08.489 --> 01:37:11.010 You are not allowed to intervene in the death 01:37:11.010 --> 01:37:15.649 of somebody personal. Who do you try to save? 01:37:15.890 --> 01:37:22.909 Jesus Christ. No, he has to die. I'd bring back 01:37:22.909 --> 01:37:26.390 Stephen Hawking. Hawking? All right. Just because. 01:37:27.229 --> 01:37:29.989 And not like it's the moment when he's about 01:37:29.989 --> 01:37:32.430 to die and you bring him back just so he's like, 01:37:32.569 --> 01:37:43.720 why? I just went here to get it. Oh, man. Yeah. 01:37:44.079 --> 01:37:45.960 Unfortunately, sir, we were able to bring you 01:37:45.960 --> 01:37:48.539 back to live for another 30 years. Unfortunately, 01:37:48.640 --> 01:37:51.699 you still have this crippling disability that 01:37:51.699 --> 01:37:58.039 you have to contend with. Yeah, I'm going to 01:37:58.039 --> 01:38:01.020 hell. So your question is you have a chance to 01:38:01.020 --> 01:38:02.840 try and prevent the death of one person that 01:38:02.840 --> 01:38:05.020 will affect millions. What do you mean by that 01:38:05.020 --> 01:38:10.920 will affect millions? Somebody's death like a. 01:38:11.659 --> 01:38:16.220 A performer, a leader. Steve Jobs. My first thought 01:38:16.220 --> 01:38:17.899 was going to be Robin Williams, only because 01:38:17.899 --> 01:38:20.800 he was such an amazing, positive person for the 01:38:20.800 --> 01:38:25.000 world. Yes. My thoughts were Robin Williams, 01:38:25.220 --> 01:38:29.199 Chester Bennington, or Paul Walker. Yeah. And 01:38:29.199 --> 01:38:32.180 those last two, only because they were involved 01:38:32.180 --> 01:38:34.760 in organizations that were helping people and 01:38:34.760 --> 01:38:37.159 trying to bring light to some bullshit going 01:38:37.159 --> 01:38:40.960 on in Hollywood. And I still think total tin 01:38:40.960 --> 01:38:44.970 hex. conspiracy theory they were killed not uh 01:38:44.970 --> 01:38:49.470 you know anything else they they were murdered 01:38:49.470 --> 01:38:54.130 they they did not die of self removal or accidents 01:38:54.130 --> 01:38:57.670 which ones are we talking about chester bennington 01:38:57.670 --> 01:39:00.130 and paul walker they were both involved in a 01:39:00.130 --> 01:39:02.430 ring to try to expose pedophilia in hollywood 01:39:02.430 --> 01:39:07.029 and yeah suddenly miraculously just before they 01:39:07.029 --> 01:39:08.510 were supposed to appear in front of a judge within 01:39:08.510 --> 01:39:11.840 a few days All of a sudden, they were gone. Dead. 01:39:11.979 --> 01:39:15.380 Yep. And you know what? If it meant he could 01:39:15.380 --> 01:39:18.560 actually go on to talk, I would even be willing 01:39:18.560 --> 01:39:22.479 to bring back Mr. Jeffrey. Honestly, to clear 01:39:22.479 --> 01:39:26.359 all that up, yeah. Oh, my God. The surprise look 01:39:26.359 --> 01:39:28.380 on the Clinton's face when they see he's back. 01:39:28.840 --> 01:39:36.739 Oh, my God. He's back. This shocked Pikachu face 01:39:36.739 --> 01:39:40.109 on Bill Clinton alone. i thought we killed that 01:39:40.109 --> 01:39:46.750 man i just oh my god oh man where's biden i know 01:39:46.750 --> 01:39:48.710 he's sniffing some little girl's hair so boy 01:39:48.710 --> 01:39:52.930 yeah that would be but i mean maybe even um kirk 01:39:52.930 --> 01:39:54.989 well tell somebody i was thinking just because 01:39:54.989 --> 01:39:59.250 his death has been so like traumatic for politics 01:39:59.250 --> 01:40:02.729 for so many but i i also feel like his death 01:40:02.729 --> 01:40:06.979 has polarized a lot of People positively as well. 01:40:07.420 --> 01:40:09.880 We'll have to at some point do a politics episode. 01:40:09.979 --> 01:40:11.520 We're going to do an episode on him. Because 01:40:11.520 --> 01:40:14.300 that's an episode that's going to be a mainly 01:40:14.300 --> 01:40:15.819 me thing just because I've been following that 01:40:15.819 --> 01:40:17.899 for a long time. But like, Jesus Christ. Yeah. 01:40:18.039 --> 01:40:20.399 That would be. Well, if you brought him back, 01:40:20.479 --> 01:40:24.920 boy, that would be a shocker. Have you seen the 01:40:24.920 --> 01:40:28.640 videos of the supposed lookalikes of him that 01:40:28.640 --> 01:40:30.260 get very nervous when you mentioned his name? 01:40:30.359 --> 01:40:35.300 Oh, Jesus Christ. Me? No, Charlie Kirk. Oh, my 01:40:35.300 --> 01:40:38.220 God. No, I have not. You'll have to send me that. 01:40:38.439 --> 01:40:41.819 Obviously. Yeah. Obviously. I don't know. Yeah, 01:40:41.859 --> 01:40:45.359 there's one or two people that are, like, creepy, 01:40:45.560 --> 01:40:48.460 like Uncanny Valley creepy. Maybe they're clones. 01:40:48.640 --> 01:40:51.600 Who knows? And people are like, man, you look 01:40:51.600 --> 01:40:53.979 awful like Charlie Kirk, and they get real nervous. 01:40:54.140 --> 01:40:55.500 I don't know. It seemed like his wife moved on 01:40:55.500 --> 01:40:58.180 really quickly. I don't know. Just for. Isn't 01:40:58.180 --> 01:41:02.390 she banging his best friend? No. She did mention 01:41:02.390 --> 01:41:04.409 that J .D. Vance awfully reminds him a lot about 01:41:04.409 --> 01:41:06.289 her husband in a very weird way, and I thought 01:41:06.289 --> 01:41:09.569 that was a little creepy. I saw something about 01:41:09.569 --> 01:41:11.930 Vance's wife is leaving him, maybe. I don't know 01:41:11.930 --> 01:41:13.090 about that. I haven't heard anything about that. 01:41:14.369 --> 01:41:19.970 That could be a weird round robin. Vance ends 01:41:19.970 --> 01:41:22.600 up with... With Erica Kirk. Kirk's ex -wife. 01:41:22.840 --> 01:41:25.600 Erica Kirk, yeah. Jesus Christ. Talk about a 01:41:25.600 --> 01:41:27.979 power couple. My God, when he becomes president 01:41:27.979 --> 01:41:30.520 in a few years. I don't know if he will, dude. 01:41:30.899 --> 01:41:32.859 She's the new first lady. I don't think he will 01:41:32.859 --> 01:41:35.640 either. I think we're going to end up with somebody 01:41:35.640 --> 01:41:38.819 that's just worse than anybody we could imagine. 01:41:39.380 --> 01:41:41.560 We'll save that for an episode. That's a topic 01:41:41.560 --> 01:41:45.399 for another show. Yes. Then we will need time 01:41:45.399 --> 01:41:48.779 travel. I know. Well, you know, the whole thing 01:41:48.779 --> 01:41:50.739 with JD Vance. So we're talking about divorce 01:41:50.739 --> 01:41:53.479 and all that. That only came about because apparently 01:41:53.479 --> 01:41:56.920 back in November of 2025 of this year, she was 01:41:56.920 --> 01:41:59.079 at Camp Lejeune and she didn't have her ring 01:41:59.079 --> 01:42:05.979 on. Okay. It happens. Especially when you have 01:42:05.979 --> 01:42:08.399 little children. I would say let's leave all 01:42:08.399 --> 01:42:10.380 that for the episode because that's going to 01:42:10.380 --> 01:42:12.859 be a whole. Yeah. There's a lot with that one. 01:42:12.859 --> 01:42:14.579 You can't have one like her around a whole bunch 01:42:14.579 --> 01:42:19.460 of Marines not have a ring on. That is true. 01:42:19.819 --> 01:42:22.300 But that would be of any of the branches, really. 01:42:22.539 --> 01:42:25.239 That's true. Of any of the five branches now, 01:42:25.260 --> 01:42:27.659 because it's not just four. I'm trying to think 01:42:27.659 --> 01:42:31.579 of who else we would bring back. Space Force, 01:42:31.640 --> 01:42:35.859 go hard. Who else? Who else is passed away that 01:42:35.859 --> 01:42:39.140 would be big? I hate to say it, but I feel like 01:42:39.140 --> 01:42:42.159 it's been a lot of Hollywood people. Betty White. 01:42:43.600 --> 01:42:47.430 Bring back Betty White. Betty White, Ozzy. Oh, 01:42:47.449 --> 01:42:53.630 Ozzy. Oh, man, yeah. Oof. Hogan. They still got 01:42:53.630 --> 01:42:55.750 to figure out how Ozzy survived all these years. 01:42:55.909 --> 01:43:00.229 I know. Pure hatred. Just pure spite. He is literally 01:43:00.229 --> 01:43:02.510 your shirt. Just I exist out of spite. That's 01:43:02.510 --> 01:43:05.770 what he was. Ozzy, right there. God. Yeah. You 01:43:05.770 --> 01:43:07.529 know, imagine how long Ozzy could have lived 01:43:07.529 --> 01:43:09.710 if he just took care of himself. Like, he lived 01:43:09.710 --> 01:43:11.689 to be that long abusing himself and all the drugs 01:43:11.689 --> 01:43:13.270 and alcohol. Imagine how long he would have made 01:43:13.270 --> 01:43:16.510 it if he was, like, a marathon runner. He would 01:43:16.510 --> 01:43:22.069 have lived to, like, 140. Right. Maybe. Or he 01:43:22.069 --> 01:43:24.970 would have gotten hit by a bus. Honestly, that's 01:43:24.970 --> 01:43:26.369 why I want time travel. I'd love to be able to 01:43:26.369 --> 01:43:28.810 experiment with people at that point. Be like, 01:43:28.930 --> 01:43:31.909 I know you have this passion for music, but trust 01:43:31.909 --> 01:43:34.310 me, marathon running is the way to go. Just compare. 01:43:34.989 --> 01:43:39.329 Just compare. Did you ever watch that movie, 01:43:39.409 --> 01:43:44.840 The Time Machine? No. Yes. I recommend it as 01:43:44.840 --> 01:43:48.039 a watch. The newer version from like early 2000s. 01:43:48.800 --> 01:43:51.439 Okay, yeah, that was a decent one. It wasn't 01:43:51.439 --> 01:43:56.199 great, but it wasn't bad. Well, so he, I'll kind 01:43:56.199 --> 01:43:58.539 of give you a little bit of a spoiler. He keeps 01:43:58.539 --> 01:44:01.960 trying to go back to prevent an event, but no 01:44:01.960 --> 01:44:08.159 matter what, he cannot do it. So he just says, 01:44:08.260 --> 01:44:10.800 fuck it, I'm going to peace out and just slams 01:44:10.800 --> 01:44:14.659 down the fucking thing. And then goes way far 01:44:14.659 --> 01:44:20.539 in the future. So let's check it out. Yeah. It's 01:44:20.539 --> 01:44:22.479 worth a watch. I think it's available somewhere 01:44:22.479 --> 01:44:26.159 on streaming. Okay. But it's, it's worth a watch. 01:44:26.880 --> 01:44:35.859 Yeah. But yeah, that unfortunately brings us 01:44:35.859 --> 01:44:38.779 to the end of the episode. Did you guys have 01:44:38.779 --> 01:44:43.729 any closing? things uh let's hope we don't develop 01:44:43.729 --> 01:44:46.829 time travel in which case uh life's gonna get 01:44:46.829 --> 01:44:52.630 real fucky it's gonna be fucking weird yeah sometimes 01:44:52.630 --> 01:44:57.789 some things really are best left alone yeah i 01:44:57.789 --> 01:45:00.210 i've said it several times in this show and i'll 01:45:00.210 --> 01:45:03.390 say it again ian malcolm from jurassic park said 01:45:03.390 --> 01:45:06.270 it best people were too busy figuring out whether 01:45:06.270 --> 01:45:08.109 or not they could they never stopped to think 01:45:08.109 --> 01:45:11.859 whether or not they should But that's how we 01:45:11.859 --> 01:45:15.979 got a whole generation of scientists now. Because 01:45:15.979 --> 01:45:19.479 they're totally ignoring Ian. They're just going 01:45:19.479 --> 01:45:23.520 for it. They're like, wait, I can make dinosaurs? 01:45:24.060 --> 01:45:30.899 Oh, here we go. I really feel like people are 01:45:30.899 --> 01:45:34.420 too concerned with pushing boundaries, especially 01:45:34.420 --> 01:45:37.479 with things like AI. And I know we talk about 01:45:37.479 --> 01:45:40.430 AI quite a bit on the show. But it's one of those 01:45:40.430 --> 01:45:45.310 topics that it really is not getting the right 01:45:45.310 --> 01:45:51.710 kind of attention. I genuinely believe in my 01:45:51.710 --> 01:45:54.109 heart of hearts that it is going to be the reason 01:45:54.109 --> 01:46:00.109 we as a society fall. For whatever reason. I 01:46:00.109 --> 01:46:02.770 thought it was going to be an idiocracy kind 01:46:02.770 --> 01:46:08.029 of thing. Well, I mean, it may be a little bit 01:46:08.029 --> 01:46:10.869 of both, to be honest. But I think AI is probably 01:46:10.869 --> 01:46:14.409 going to lead the cause. AI are going to get 01:46:14.409 --> 01:46:16.229 another asshole scientist that tries to create 01:46:16.229 --> 01:46:18.750 another virus. They got to fucking stop that 01:46:18.750 --> 01:46:22.250 shit. Oh, yeah. Mm -hmm. We don't need another 01:46:22.250 --> 01:46:24.949 woo -hoo flu. No one's telling them no. Woo -hoo 01:46:24.949 --> 01:46:34.710 flu. Yeah. Until someone does. Yeah. Yeah. So 01:46:34.710 --> 01:46:38.750 if you've been partaking in the video for the 01:46:38.750 --> 01:46:41.159 show, I hope that you've enjoyed the graphics. 01:46:42.000 --> 01:46:47.000 Could you throw up the portal one? Ah, the portal 01:46:47.000 --> 01:46:52.439 one? Yeah. I should have that. You should. These 01:46:52.439 --> 01:46:54.420 are some of the ones I've been working on that 01:46:54.420 --> 01:46:57.920 I was going to use for the companion video. Hold 01:46:57.920 --> 01:47:04.760 on. I will get it up here. Yes, take your Viagra. 01:47:07.600 --> 01:47:10.909 So yeah, we've been... As much as we talk shit 01:47:10.909 --> 01:47:15.930 about AI, it is a useful tool and has its merits. 01:47:16.029 --> 01:47:19.750 And this is one of them, you know, using video 01:47:19.750 --> 01:47:22.710 to image generation, something I've been learning 01:47:22.710 --> 01:47:26.729 how to do lately. At some point, we're going 01:47:26.729 --> 01:47:28.930 to have Mansley doing some more interesting things, 01:47:29.050 --> 01:47:31.310 but putting him in different scenes throughout 01:47:31.310 --> 01:47:34.210 history has been kind of fun. And having him 01:47:34.210 --> 01:47:37.350 do different things is, you know, just been kind 01:47:37.350 --> 01:47:46.060 of nice. Yeah. So one of the cooler ones was 01:47:46.060 --> 01:47:49.859 this portal, having him walking out of that thing 01:47:49.859 --> 01:47:57.560 as a time traveler. So yeah. Fuck yeah. That's 01:47:57.560 --> 01:48:02.239 just, I love it. I'm going to make that one the 01:48:02.239 --> 01:48:10.029 seat in the star for a second. So You know, we 01:48:10.029 --> 01:48:13.689 might have to have a scene where Mansley's carrying 01:48:13.689 --> 01:48:17.689 Baggy at some point. Yeah. His emotional support 01:48:17.689 --> 01:48:22.010 bag. His emotional support bag. Absolutely. I 01:48:22.010 --> 01:48:31.229 love it. So. You have some chromosomes for me. 01:48:33.069 --> 01:48:35.289 Get the voice done up for him and just be like, 01:48:35.390 --> 01:48:45.989 put the chromosomes in the bag. Okay. All right. 01:48:46.029 --> 01:48:49.470 Well, folks, I think that's going to do it for 01:48:49.470 --> 01:48:51.510 us this week. I hope you guys enjoyed the episode. 01:48:55.550 --> 01:48:58.829 We will be back next week with another one. Or 01:48:58.829 --> 01:49:01.369 is next week one of our off weeks? Or is everyone 01:49:01.369 --> 01:49:04.770 going to be? I should be here. I don't think 01:49:04.770 --> 01:49:08.820 we have an off week until around Christmas. Okay. 01:49:08.820 --> 01:49:10.260 Yeah. End of the year. We're probably going to 01:49:10.260 --> 01:49:12.279 be off for a week or two. Just putting that out 01:49:12.279 --> 01:49:17.819 there because life's going to be like, so yeah, 01:49:17.939 --> 01:49:23.159 but thanks again for hanging out with us. Again, 01:49:23.359 --> 01:49:26.060 we would love to hear some answers to those questions 01:49:26.060 --> 01:49:28.560 we had during the show. So send them our way 01:49:28.560 --> 01:49:32.380 on the socials, on the discord, anywhere that 01:49:32.380 --> 01:49:35.239 you want to throw them at us. We'll, we'll read 01:49:35.239 --> 01:49:40.300 them. try yourself some dubby uh give it a shot 01:49:40.300 --> 01:49:43.220 let us know what you think again it's consume 01:49:43.220 --> 01:49:48.819 10 we'll get you some money off and uh keep your 01:49:48.819 --> 01:49:50.899 ears peeled for the information about the live 01:49:50.899 --> 01:49:53.840 show and when that happens we would absolutely 01:49:53.840 --> 01:49:58.539 love to see you guys there but uh for now that's 01:49:58.539 --> 01:50:01.239 going to do it and we will see you all next week 01:50:01.239 --> 01:50:03.539 bye bye