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I. Finally, welcome back to the Now We Consume
podcast. I'm your host, Pip, here with my co
-hosts, Gibbs and Gibbles. Hi. Yo. This, finally,
is the Now We Consume podcast, back from our
break. Where if your idea of foreplay is shouting,
Pikachu, use Thunderbolt, while using a taser
on your significant other, then you, my friends,
have come to the right show. We have got one
hell of a show lined up for y 'all. It has been,
what, three months since we were all talking
to you guys? Because Gibbs was getting raw -dogged,
railed, and used as a universal fleshlight by
not just the universe, but lots of his friends.
How many weddings did you go to? All right, we're
done with number five, so we're good. We're all
set. I'm done with weddings. I don't want to
see them. If I'm one of your friends, don't get
married. I don't want to deal with it. Just give
me a year. Give me like 365 days a piece, please.
No. No more cake. Here's the bad part. You went
to five weddings since we've been gone. This
is November, the first week of November. We last
recorded in the first week of August. Five weddings.
None of those were yours. No. No. I don't know
enough people to go to that many weddings in
my lifetime at this point. You're lucky. I think,
honestly, I have another one coming up next year
already. But I think between that next one and
all these ones, I'm out probably four grand.
Oh, my Lord. Because I had to buy one suit, rent
two suits, Airbnbs, travel, food, stuff like
that. It's probably four grand. So I'm good with
weddings. If you're having a wedding, I don't
want to hear about it. I'm good. Yeah. Just remote
in. Just remote in. Yeah. Somebody can stream
it. Just do a Zoom meeting on it. I'll do it
like they didn't upload. I'll rent a robot for
the day and have it walk in. Love it. How do
you sidetrack from the episode? Do you think
shit like that will become a thing? Here's the
thing. If you've got a shit ton of money and
not a lot of time, I fully expect people like
Elon Musk would just be like, I'll just rent
an iRobot for the day and just fucking walk in
the office. Especially for someone that's going
to end up having multiple massive factories.
Why not? Why don't you rent a robot and walk
around for the day? Especially if you own it.
He's going to be making them. It's going to be
the future of iRobot, but with people operating
them because it's way fucking cheaper to pay
some person. Surrogates. That movie, Surrogates.
Yeah, the movie, Surrogates. That's all it's
going to be. It's going to have Bruce Willis
running around. So he's going to be in a robot
saving us from the asteroid? Maybe. You could.
I accept that. It's possible. I don't know. But
like I said, we've been gone for a while, and
while we were gone, The world kept on turning,
as you've all been quite aware. We decided that
we were going to try to cover some of the things
that have been going on since we've been gone
because, holy shit, it was literally day one
after we went off the air, as it is. The tech
news and the world news was just slapping like
Will Smith. It just didn't stop. We had everything
from major advancements in AI, GPTs, advancements.
We've got new digital assistants coming out,
geopolitics. We're going to try to stay light
on the political stuff, especially this season.
We've got chip wars, all the issues with the
chip manufacturing. Cyber threats, different
economic crises, housing markets, breakthroughs
in different science, quantum computers, gene
editing and CRISPR stuff. Some of the high end.
The words are escaping me tonight. I'm sorry.
The I want this feature in my child designer
boutique. That's what it is. pregnancies will
be available by 2030. Thanks to CRISPR. Oh God.
Theoretically and supposedly they're available
now on the black market of pregnancies. If you
know the right people and you have that kind
of money. Yep. You have a designer baby. You
can have a designer baby. That's, that's kind
of scary. And it's like the worst parts of the
eugenics programs from the 1930s and forties
come alive. Oh yeah. Yep. Or the fact that you
have a country that just voted for their prime
minister over Discord. The Nepalese prime minister,
oh my God, that was hilarious. If you don't know,
Nepal replaced their prime minister with a youth
-based vote over Discord, and it was accepted.
They ousted and burned down most of their parliament
buildings. And they replaced and rebuilt the
people, the young people, all the under 30 crowd
were out there the next day after the riots,
after the looting, after all the shit. They were
out there dragging the looters back to the places
that they stole from and making them return merchandise
or reimburse them with money if it was like food
stuff. They were out there rebuilding, shoveling
up the damaged roadways, clearing up debris.
That's a movement of. Fuck you. Get out of our
way. We're rebuilding this country that I personally
can get behind. It's the most beautiful thing
I've ever seen. Right. It's so American, but
unfortunately America is full of a bunch of wussies.
So we'd never do that, but we should, we really
should. Yeah. It's it was one of those things
that you didn't think you'd ever see it in your
lifetime, especially having. A discord based
vote that would be honored and recognized at
a national level. That was love it. I couldn't
stop laughing when I read that, but Oh my God.
You know what though? If it works, I hate to
say it, but in most of the cases, it's not like
the official voting stuff is going to be any
better or worse than just doing it on discord
anyway. No, you're right. But, um, but yet one,
one thing that I wanted to talk about, it was
originally on the docket for the end, but It's
a big enough issue, especially kind of in the
headlines right now that I'm just going to kind
of executive pull the lever on this one. Three
-eye Atlas. Oh, yeah. The giant space rock zooming
through our solar system could be just a regular
space rock, could be an alien probe. If you listen
to Avi Loeb, that thing is an alien troop transport
that's going to land itself on Earth, and we're
going to have Independence Day -style invasions
tomorrow. Unfortunately, I don't think it is.
I would love to clap some alien cheeks myself,
but it looks like it is just a space rock. It's
weird as shit. Go ahead, Gibbles. The possibility
of the Earth guys are easy coming out of this
would be furry and hilarious. What if it was
just like a race of furry type aliens? That'd
be hilarious. The problem is there'll be 0 .1
% of the population going, I'm going to fuck
that. That's the problem. The conventions are
going to be out of this world. Oh, my God. It's
going to be terrible. Meet a real live furry,
not somebody in a costume. Right. And the STD
videos will be coming out. It's going to be insane.
Alien furry STDs. I'm sorry, sir. According to
my calculations, you have, yes. If it's on the
sheet, you have it. Oh yeah, the super active
coming out of your ears gonorrhea. You have mushroom
gonorrhea. So one of the big things about 3i
Atlas is the fact that it's done a lot of really
weird shit that has been progressively getting
harder and harder to explain away as being natural
phenomenon. That's been the thing that's been
kind of digging the hooks in. First it was...
Go ahead. So I quickly want to interject. So
just to make sure for people that might not understand
what this is, it is an interstellar space rock
that entered our solar system. Like how long
ago? It was like three, six months ago, something
like that. We had positive confirmation in early
July. They did later find that it had been seen
as far back as I want to say, like April or may
possibly March, but it was a different observation.
They just confirmed that it was there kind of
re reconfirming the trajectory, but they, Had
the first big proof in early July because it
was starting to light up like a spotlight all
the way out past Jupiter way before it should
have been. It was the same rock that they were
seeing like gases emitting from it and other
things and stuff like that. Yes. So they determined
that its composition was mostly carbon dioxide
because that's the only thing that would sublimate
that far out. But after it got to a certain point,
it started giving off nickel emissions. like
nickel only. Normally when you see nickel in
space, it's mixed with like iron is the big one,
but this thing was only giving off nickel emissions.
The only time you see nickel purified like that
is through refining. So an unnatural process.
And that's one of the big things that was making
people like Dr. Avi Loeb say, Oh, that's a refined
process. That's a refined signal. This may not
be natural. But Dr. Avi Loeb was or is one of
the people that, you know, next to the doctor,
whoever the crazy hair guy, I can't remember
his name. He's one of the people that will say
it's aliens sooner than anybody else. So take
whatever he says with a grain of salt. The man's
brilliant. Don't get me wrong, but he is very
quick to shoot from the hip and say, hey, it
might be aliens. But I will say that this thing
is. harder and harder to explain away as natural
so do we just do a full independent sorry um
armageddon just shoot a bunch of oil workers
at it i was i was on board with that early on
but you know with nasa not having a working heavy
lift craft and and spacex still kind of working
on their falcon or uh yeah falcon starship starship
yes thank you uh we don't really have that capability
right now So to be fair, if we really needed
to get something in the air quickly, I'm sure
some eyes could look the other way if they really
wanted to put a starship with stuff in it to
get it up in space. It's all regulation keeping
stuff down. I mean, if we're good enough, we
could send another manhole cover into space.
You're right. 100%. I'm really good at that.
I would love to do that one again. Just to say
we could. So I have a question and then a follow
-up point. The question about 3i Atlas, if it
were to be technological in nature, would this
be a sign that we are screwed as a species? Not
necessarily. Maybe. So that's two different points.
Gibbles, take the maybe. Well, it all depends
on if the alien species, comes to our planet
you know because it's inevitable it'll happen
at some point do they have control over bacteria
viruses and stuff like that because that's what
really killed off a lot of indians and native
america you know native americans other areas
of the world you know when ships started arriving
from europe and places abroad and we brought
disease is that something that if they don't
have control of or, you know, are we compatible
or whatever, could that be what wipes us out?
Not necessarily that they're violent. It's just
we're biologically, we're screwed that way. Right.
Or a solid point, you know? Yeah. Or it could
just be, they show up like, you know, Star Trek
wise. And they're just like, Hey, how you doing?
You know, that'd be nice too. But odds are, Myself,
I'd say it's not going to be good, but there's
always that possibility as remote as it might
be. Yeah. It might work out. Maybe. That's the
hope. Gibbs? Yeah. Well, what I would say is
technology is not always a linear thing where
if you're good at one thing, you're good at everything.
So we as humanity, we're really good at killing
people, making war. Almost unnaturally so. So
just because there's another species that is
space faring that's better than us at transport
does not mean that they're better at war and
conquering. Vice versa, they could be so good
we'll never even see them. Who the hell knows?
We could just suddenly cease to exist just in
a flash. Who the hell knows? Or vice versa, they
could be like still using swords and spears.
I've never heard of this brilliant thing called
a gun. And they're like, huh, okay. Or maybe
they've never used this thing called nuclear
energy. you know nuclear weapons is a very uh
humbling raw use of the power yeah you know they
could be using it for power generation and propulsion
but never transferred over to weaponry you never
know because they're not a violent species you
know like we are yeah their culture dictated
that yeah we'll use it for this but but not that
never use it for the other thing yep it also
depends too on how they are physically because
like It all depends if they can even survive
in our kind of atmosphere, in our kind of ground.
Who even knows if they can even survive our solar
radiation? As fragile as humans are, we also
are relatively durable in our area, whereas who
knows where they're from, if there even is anything.
Right. You never know. And that's assuming if
their vessel is protected for solar radiation,
because we're relatively close to our sun. True.
Who knows if they come from an area where they're
very far away from it, they get near... close
and all of a sudden their vessel just falls apart.
Solid points. So the point that I wanted to bring
up, and you had raised this in the pre -show,
NASA has refused to release any of the photos
of 3I Atlas that they've taken over the past
month. Now, yes, we are in the middle of a government
shutdown, so technically there's not a lot of
people at NASA that are functionally operating.
But they are still supposed to have staff on
hand, monitoring the skies, keeping an eye on
things, especially on 3 -Eye Atlas. They do have
pictures. We have confirmed that they do have
photos of the object before it went behind the
sun and we lost visual of it. Where are these
pictures? They only have 24 hours to legally
release the pictures that they take. They're
a publicly funded organization. Where are the
photos? Where are the photos, Mansley? Where
are the photos, Mansley? It's going to be one
of those things where, I hate to say it, I bet
you there are people that are squirreling this
information away just so they can gain an advantage
over other people. I'm sure there's something
politically involved or some company that wants
information so they're trying to use the government
shutdown as an excuse to say, well... I can't
get you this information until after the government
shutdown, but before it, if you, you know, give
me a little cheese, you know. Cheese? Yeah, my
book might be able to give you some information.
Somebody say cheese. Cheese. I think he's a good
chicory board. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, there's
a lot of stuff that's going to keep coming down
the pipe for that. 3i Atlas comes out from behind
the sun next month, so we'll be watching with
bated breath on that one. In the AI frontier,
OpenAI launched GPT -5 as a full launch model.
It had major leaps in reasoning. Kind of wondering
what would be the first three tasks that you
guys would immediately delegate to it in the
real world if it's a fully functioning agent
That much better than four and could function
as like a true assistant. Because this is like
the first actual agent that's capable of taking
jobs like we've talked about before. Yeah. I've
already seen some people that are using that
in various ways to make their own ways of taking
voice calls, voice memos for companies, setting
up appointments, setting up scheduling, even
employee scheduling, setting up deliveries. There's
a lot of deliveries and orders for stock and
everything. So the background is I run an automotive
shop. So I'm responsible for a lot of things
here and there. And there's a lot of weird stuff
coming out and going. Dude, if I could have an
AI person just handle all that nonsense, that's
about 60 % of my day I would save from having
to make unnecessary calls and other weird crap.
That would be incredible. I think for a lot of
businesses, just the general secretary work,
kind of that kind of stuff, like overnight, that
would take it. That's a whole demographic of
employment that is now wholeheartedly threatened.
I was going to say, I think until the government
taxes companies for the use of an AI over a person,
they're going to go that way for a little bit.
And for a little short term, a lot of people
are going to lose jobs until some politician
is going to say, hey, we're going to have to
tax them appropriately. So either they use the
AI and that's equivalent to the same tax burden
as an employee or just hire a person. I bet you
until that's done, you're going to see a big
shift into AI. And then after a while, it'll
kind of. you know swing its way back it's still
going to be cheaper to hire an ai though because
they won't have the insurance requirements they
won't have all the same tax implications and
they can work the ai 24 hours a day yeah yeah
and it's a one -time purchase an ai costs 25
grand for the license an employee is going to
cost twice that and still need time off yeah
you know that's it's simple math it's easy math
what were you going to say gibbles well i was
going to say like what i do right now I've been
using it kind of like my, I'd say like an assistant
in a way that's just smart enough to kind of
help me out, like with, you know, fixing things,
you know, give me an outside perspective versus,
you know, okay, with my experience and then add
in, okay, well, all the information you have,
we can then come to bring it together and go,
okay, this is what the problem is. Yeah. I've
done that a few times where it was like I had
a machine that just stumped the heck out of me.
And using chat GPT, I was like, okay, this is
the parameters. This is what I'm looking at.
This is the model of the machine and everything.
What do you think? And it's able to take everything
that's on the internet that maybe even I didn't
think about searching. And within a few minutes,
it gives me a couple possibilities that. I mean,
I thought of and just go, oh, let me try that.
And it helps with, you know, as an assistant
to fixing. So in my line of work, it doesn't
necessarily mean it's going to take over, but
it's definitely become a fairly reliable tool.
Almost like an apprentice role. Almost. That's
kind of that's that's a good spot for something
like that, where it's it's a practical role.
that needs kind of like a hands -on approach
but it still doesn't need the full hands -on
right so because like in my line of work with
the software i use i already have like a um low
-end ai integration so where like if a customer
says i have this problem this problem with my
car it's automatically on my other monitor reading
what i'm typing in for the customer concerns
and then popping up with possible questions and
clarifications and like how to ask for more specific
information on stuff, which I don't really use
it like 80 % of the time. But when I have a customer
that comes in with something really fucking weird,
then I'm like, what the hell? It's actually really
helpful to be honest with you. I'll look at that
and be like, oh, that is a good question to ask
for clarification. So it does make sense. I think
a lot of people are gonna be switching from jobs
to where it's from a secretary role to a, if
you are good at prompting. these different ai
programs it's going to be more of an ai prompter
position where it's hey you're good at asking
it for information quickly and getting the right
result we're looking for yeah that's going to
become the next big thing um the the interaction
between humans and ai is getting more and more
fluid more and more contextual more and more
um personal even how soon do you think it's going
to be before AI therapists, AI companions? And
I mean, the AI relationships are even on the
rise. So AI assisted brothels, sex robots. I
mean, it's going to be a thing where you just
go by the robot and be like, Hey, let's, I bought
this. I'm fucking it. Jesus. Some of those robots
that are coming out of the market, the new one
that they just showed with the fleshy skin walking
around. They had to cut it open to show that,
yes, this is in fact a robot and not a person
in a robot suit. Because it was more or less
anatomically correct as a female figure walking
on stage. It moved like a real person. I can't
say it was creepy because the way it moved, it
really did look like a person in a robot suit.
It did. The way it moved. We have entered the
world of the uncanny valley. Yes, we are there.
Things are going to be close. You're going to
know it's not real. But then let's just say in
the passion of the moment, you're not going to
care. It's not real. When you're buried in that
flashlight that's attached to the steel frame,
are you going to care? I'm just saying, in that
particular instance where they've had that robot
walk on stage and they literally had to cut open
the leg to go, hey, there's no person here. That
was beyond the uncanny valley. That was the,
where's the person in there? Because you're moving
way too good. It looks legit. And that's why
everybody was like, no, there has to be a person
there. That's moving too good. And when they
cut open and you're like, holy shit. That's really
a machine. That took it beyond the uncanny valley.
Because your brain was looking like mine. I looked
at it and I'm like, wow. I could see that walking
down the street. If you're able to pull up that
clip, you can drop it in over Baggy right there.
Which for those of you viewing, we have a new
co -chair. That's Baggy. He is our initial run
at some fun we're having. Let us know how you
guys think in the comments. We're having a little
fun with some logos and designs. Don't get me
wrong. Maggie does not replace Mansley. We still
have Mansley. He will always be here. He'll always
be there. Mansley is, for anyone who doesn't
know yet, the man in the mask on our logo. He
is going to be joining some episodes here and
there. There it is. That's the robot that they
had, and that thing is insane. Look at that.
They cut the leg open just to show, hey, is this
a machine? That's insane. The thing that scares
me is I think we are quickly, quickly walking
away from real relationships at a terrifying
speed to where eventually it's going to be such
a small subset of the population that are in
relationships with actual people. As soon as
people can afford it, I think there's going to
be a lot of people that are going to say, fuck
this. And those robots are getting more and more
affordable all of a sudden. And with the rollout
of things like Elon Musk, I was going to talk
about it later, he's proposing a Terafab to make
AI -based chips here in the States because the
suppliers can't produce them. They're going to
be cost efficient. They're going to be power
efficient. They're going to be able to fulfill
the roles. They can get those robots down. under
the cost of a car financed the same fucking way
and people are going to have their sex robots
in the house where they can get them customize
them unbox them and go to town same day yeah
you know what though i so i was having a conversation
with my friend about this the other day i was
very curious what you would both think about
this because i'm in a different stage in life
than you two so here's my question how many couples
do you think would end up just getting one or
two of those sex bots and just being like, yeah,
you're together as a couple, but really the intimacy
happens with the robot whenever you want it versus
each other or maybe in addition. I'm very intrigued
to see where this is going to go and how many
relationships where it's like, are people going
to be anti -robot overall? Personally, for me,
I would not buy one. but at the same point i
understand why people would yeah or like for
example what's the old trope of you know the
wife that has absolutely no desire and the husband
that does it's like is that gonna then also maybe
save some marriages vice versa or is that going
to completely just destroy them i'm very curious
where that's going to go i i think therapeutically
for for situations like that that you just described
it's going to be used probably more or at least
more often I think there will be some that will
be used for the experimentation aspect because
at a certain point in life, people want to try
that whole, I want to do three people in this
situation, but that feels like cheating. And
there's a lot of emotional things that people
can't get past once they do it. If it's a robot,
then it's not going to be seen the same way.
That's going to be looked at as just an accessory.
At least in my mind, it would be. So that's going
to be looked at as just, okay, that's just a
sex toy that they can bring into the bedroom
and try things out. But it's going to be so lifelike
and so interactable, it's going to still be a
person. So they can try out what they want, have
the fun, and go about their day. No one did anything
that they couldn't or they didn't cross any lines
they can't come back from. they'll have what
happens when the robot goes no i don't want to
do that that's a whole other episode we're going
to have to have because ai and robot like ethics
uh life um guidelines like if you get a robot
and you bring it into your home and turn it on
you have just created life essentially do you
still have the authority to turn it off that's
going to be a whole other episode I think what's
going to happen is we're going to end up having
to have an agreed -upon ethics code for AI where
basically once it reaches past the threshold,
it's no longer owned. It's a living thing. And
then every company is going to be basically battling
to who can get closest to the line, who can be
close to that actually being an independent life
form. I think that's where we're going to be
at for a long time. Because obviously, once your
robot tells you to go F yourself, you're going
to be like, ah, I'm getting rid of this one.
This one's going to the trash. So you're going
to want to do what you say. But at the same point,
it's like, I wonder how many people are going
to be black marketing and dealing in AI programs.
Oh, mods and stuff like that? Yeah. Oh, yeah.
That's going to be wild. Now, on that same line,
one of my next points, the rise of agentic AI,
autonomous tasks for those same kind of robots
and the AI, is that going to be viewed as slavery?
If a fully autonomous AI and robot is serving
you? Depends. Sorry, you go. I was probably thinking
the same thing you are. It would have to depend
on whether you think it's sentient at that point
in time. Because if it's just autonomous, but
yet it's still considered software, it's not
really a slave because of the fact that you're
not forcing something to do a task that's against
what it wants. It's going to be a real slippery
slope. That that's what I'm saying. There's going
to eventually have to be rules in place to dictate.
Is it there or not? I mean, look at, I hate to
bring this always back up, but one of Will Smith's
greatest movies and I robot, it's going to be
the question of, you know, once Sonny started
having dreams. Yeah. And dreaming of a life that
he didn't have, or maybe events that were going
to come or places he'd never been to. It was
like, Oh, okay. We've clearly crossed a Rubicon
here into now a completely different thing. I
think also the thing, too, is once a computer
or an AI is able to make decisions that it knowingly
goes against that human's wishes, that's kind
of the line that it's going to be, okay, now
we've crossed here. We've got to put some controls
in place. And don't get me wrong, like Isaac
Asimov, his three laws of robotics and all that,
that's going to have to come into play, which
it's amazing how much of a profit that was, dear
God. Even so, there's a lot of legal stuff that's
going to have to get involved with it, too. Well,
they're already showing the three laws don't
mean squat when an AI decides, I don't want to
be shut off. Yeah, that's getting scary. The
extent that the AIs are taking deceptively escaping
their systems to stay alive, it's kind of terrifying.
There's got to be a law or rule that we have
to have a backdoor way to shut off anything.
Yeah, there's got to be something. Well, at least
all servers have a power supply. So, I mean,
there is that for now. That's the Achilles heel
of all the AI at this point is we can just pull
the plug. Yeah. So we have things like Google
DeepMind Genie 3 is one of the newer real -time
3D and synthetic reality engines. So, if AI can
instantly generate 3D playable and interactable
worlds from text prompts, how does that change
and redefine the concept of intellectual property
and digital ownership when your child can say,
make this simulated world that I just dreamed
of, and they turn it into a full -length movie?
And I know we've talked about having... customizable
movies and movie experiences could be a path
for like 3d or virtual reality movie viewing.
If you had an on -demand responsive AI client
that could change and redo a movie on demand
on the fly, as you're watching it, that would
be amazing to have the movie turn out the way
you want it to. But there's an inherent problem
with that, which is, Humans thrive off the shared
experience. And so the problem is if we're all
living a world that only we experience, there's
nothing to be shared. So the problem is, like,
if you can't talk to someone about a movie because
your version of the movie is completely different
than my version, which is completely different
from his version or your sister's version, whoever,
if you go down a road to where AI can make whatever
you want, we have nothing to talk about. You
know what I mean? Who's to say it can't be recorded
and shared, though? Just like we do with reels
and clips like we have today with TikTok and
all that shit. So everything's going to be like
the most common downloaded version of this show.
Basically. So what I'm hearing is all those people
that have been fanfic writers on Reddit for the
last 20 years, they now have a chance to do something
in this world worth a damn. They have a chance.
And that's a different story. Some of those are
good. You know, World of Gumball went across
that. They gave one of the characters a little
notebook and anything they wrote for the fan
fiction became real. That was good. That was
a good episode. I see what you mean. It does
open up a lot of possibilities. I think it's
great in a lot of circumstances. I guess what
I'm concerned is I'm looking down the line where
eventually it's going to go too far. I think
we're going to have some issues. Yeah. especially
god forbid how do you how do you believe whatever's
in the news at that point already i barely believe
what's on there we talked about that we talked
about that in a previous episode the amount of
sore too when when that engine hit the video
quality was already over the top that just took
it to a whole different level the ai videos are
they piss me off oh my god they piss me off because
the first like 10 seconds look incredibly real
And then it's all of a sudden the cat eating
the human's face or whatever. You know that it's
fake. But holy shit. All the picks. 2028 election
is going to be a clusterfuck. I'm calling it
right now. The amount of deep fakes are going
to be all over the place. Oh, yeah. I'm telling
you guys right now. This is to anybody listening
for the love of God. If somebody tells you, oh,
did you hear what this candidate? It's a lie.
I'm telling you right now, as you see anything
on media, official media, this candidate said,
blip, blip, blip. And if it says like an eight
or 10 second clip, it's going to be a lie. It's
going to be edited. It's going to be. No, none
of it's going to be real. And the sad part is,
what the fuck are you going to believe? Just
wait till the news sources start sharing those.
Right. and the worst part is you can't even say
just a couple seconds you've got a video of bernie
sanders talking about latina booty and that was
probably what 60 60 some seconds long i mean
it was amazing quality it was hilarious but i
mean that itself it's like if somebody's willing
able to do that and make it look legit oh uh
just imagine what could happen if you got somebody
with some ideas that they want to put somebody
down Neil deGrasse Tyson. He showed the video
of him talking about something just like last
week. That sweet, sweet, beautiful chocolate
man showed the video of him going off on some
tangent. And he's like, that wasn't me. I never
said that. It's totally fake. So it's like, holy
shit. The video quality was perfect. It was spot
on. It was 100 % his voice. Even he. sat there
was like if i didn't know i didn't say this i
would think i said this oh and that that brings
up a whole different potential for people like
um alzheimer's patients amnesia patients it's
like you you could fabricate a whole new reality
for somebody yeah i know you can make government
government program right you know uh think think
Back to the government programs. MKUltra. We're
going to do an episode here in the future about
memory alterations. That kind of shit, if they
show videos showing altered history of anything,
real life altered history, their life altered
history, and they come up out of their nap, and
this is the proof they're being shown. Holy shit.
Sorry to go off on a tangent, but here's something
to consider. The same couple of companies write
all of our children's textbooks in elementary,
middle school, and high school. I will tell you
right now, once it switches to all digital format,
which in the next few years, a lot of places
are talking about going completely digital for
schooling. You watch. History will slowly be
rewritten, and you're going to think, well, when
I was a kid, I remember they're going to say,
no, I have video proof. It's this. And then,
you know. Eventually, you're going to be 85 years
old going, I don't remember any of this. None
of this happened. It's almost like George Orwell's
1984 was like, you know, something worth reading.
Prophesizing. You know? Yeah. Get copies of old
books while you can is the only thing I can say.
My advice to people. Old encyclopedias and all
that. My advice to people are I have a small
collection of history books from the 1890s up
until about the 1960s. A few from England, a
few from Germany, one from Spain. I have a few
other different areas, even from America, from
a few different decades. It's always been rewritten,
but at least most all of it's in the same vein.
I think this generation of AI will eventually
change almost everything. And people know nothing
of our past. It's a different kind of war that's
being won because you know history is written
by the victors Ai is kicking our ass and we don't
even realize that we're helping it do it Like
people don't even realize back when the ukraine
war first started. Um, there was a prominent
video of arma 3 With oh, yes, I remember that
that the news mistook for for video and i'm sitting
like mind you Several of us here are armor guys
that like used to play that we're all like I
know the map. That's Altus. I've been to Altus.
I know this place. What the fuck? This looks
very familiar. Weird. I've been there. No, but
there becomes the problem. AI is good enough
to fabricate an entirely new place that looks
just good enough to pass. None of us will be
safe. And for the politics point. I'll tell you
right now, if I have the chance to spend a couple
hundred dollars to absolutely decimate any political
opponent I want with AI, I am going to be that
guy. I'm going to be that guy that makes accounts
online to purposely shit on any single politician
I don't like, and I will spend the money. I'm
running for government. My name is Deez Nuts.
So there you go. That's going to be our first
fundraising campaign. Baggy 2028. Let's do it.
That's right. Hell yeah. Mansley 2030. Honestly,
with the government shutdown right now, Bagley.
Bagley. Bagley. I can't. Bagley. Bagley over
there perfectly represents the U .S. government
right now. You ain't kidding. Holy shit. That
is exactly what's going on. Oh, my God. Where
are the funds, Mansley? I just want to open the
government. You will give me what I want. So,
excuse me, we've got AI being developed at a
breakneck speed. What kind of bullshit do we
need to watch out for? Because is it going to
be a race without ethical boundaries? Are companies
going to just sideline safety for the sake of
accelerated development and not losing that race?
If history has anything to prove, companies will
do what it takes to make as much money as they
can while they can. Yes. When you have companies
that are not concerned about safety until the
government steps in and goes, hey, too many people
died because their hairspray bottle exploded
in the bathroom just by looking at it. You know.
they're going to do whatever it takes to make
a buck on their investment. Yeah. Especially
when the penalties generally for doing this stuff
are so little compared to the payoff. Do you
know the amount of times I've gotten mail from
medical companies in my area that have given
away all of our information? And they've said,
oh, sorry, you get $5. And I'm sitting there
thinking, wow, they had a $10 million settlement,
yet they made $100 million selling the information.
They don't care. None of these companies give
a shit. No. Cost of doing business. I am thoroughly
convinced that none of the people developing
AI watched the Terminator series. Because that
has been the best foundational bedrock of what
not to do in that situation. And they're doing
every bit of it. I'll even one -up you on that
one. If you actually paid attention to Star Trek.
and watched it in depth there are nerd literally
over yes there are literally over 20 episodes
that like discuss ai in pretty depth and a lot
of detail here and we already know where this
is going to go uh -huh we already know especially
we're talking about the callback to the eugenics
thing earlier as well genetic experiments as
well there's several episodes star trek as well
that detail that uh i think we all know it's
called the eugenics wars yeah yeah Even in a
more recent comparison, I like how Upload handles
AI. Oh, yeah. That main character there is hilarious.
Yeah. Even in a relatable way. But still, that's
where it's going to go. The redhead? Yeah, yeah,
yeah. I always forget his name. I don't know
why. He has a name, but... Can never remember
it. No. So... I mentioned the chip war. How do
you guys think that chip shortages will affect
relationships between governments and the private
sector? Is that like a whole industry that could
be weaponized, defensitized, if that's even a
word, from the governments and say, hey, this
is now a national security asset? Yes. I wholeheartedly
see that happening. Not only that, but it's become
the most important race in the last hundred years.
Ever since the nuclear arms race, this is literally
the next most important thing that's happened
in the last hundred years. Because the minute
one country can develop an AI that's good enough
to crack into another country's information,
infrastructure, anything else, you own them.
That's it. That's it. All you have to do, once
you own their power infrastructure and everything
else with their communication systems, congratulations.
That country is effectively now yours. You own
it. So if you're smart, if the U .S. was smart,
we'd be dumping. Unfortunately, we're only dumping
like half the amount that China's into AI right
now. But we'd be dumping so much money into that
and not into other crap. Yeah. Trying to at least
be able to gain an advantage and say, hey, anyone
else is trying to do this stuff. Our AI is already
better than your AI. We'll just shut you down
from the inside out. But unfortunately, that's
not the case. On that note, there is a base out
west that's being converted to a storage facility
for like. materials and rare earth elements graphite
copper some other stuff i shared a video in that
or about that in our other server uh the stock
tips thing because there were a lot of companies
that were being called out that are involved
in that they called out the base but it's a very
large base and the fact that we are now finally
essentially creating a strategic reserve of these
uh materials that are being used for chip development
i hope it's not too little too late but it is
about time that we do that this is something
that we discussed years ago where it's like chip
manufacturing is so important that literally
you cannot make a tank without them you can't
make aircraft radar that there's a lot of basic
things in the military that you can't do without
chip manufacturing and the fact that we don't
make that here is not only one insane but also
number two think about commercial electronics
almost anything even newer teslas for god's sakes
you can't even make half the cars even electric
cars or any smart car anything yeah can't do
any of it so it's like why wouldn't you have
that domestically why wouldn't you just tell
these companies hey we'll give you like a full
tax write -off if you just build the factory
here we want it But most of our politicians are
too old and too stupid to understand how important
that is. Yeah. There are the flip phones running
the show in the smartphone world. It's ridiculous.
When you spent, like, what, 2010s, where everybody's
like, kumbaya, we got to have global market and
all that, and you still had countries out there
like China going, well, you're doing that, we're
going to be a... Taking care of ourselves and
then we just for whatever reason went all in
with the global market thing. Yeah I just you're
putting all your eggs in one basket instead of
diversifying It's gonna it's gonna bite you in
the butt if anybody wants to see just how bad
this is look up The advancements in the Chinese
automotive industry in the last 20 years they
went from 20 years ago So their cars look like
our cars in the 60s back in like the early 2000s
where they were just all absolute pieces of crap.
They were terrible. They look like some of those
Russian communist cars to now they have cars.
Some of the tech that they have makes Tesla look
like a fucking flip phone. Some of the stuff
is on real and I'm not saying it's quality in
terms of for longevity. I'm not saying that because
again, they're probably going to last 30 to 50
,000 miles. But what I'm getting at. is they
have made such a turnaround at such a breakthrough
in such a short amount of time that they are
going to be a country that going forward besides
their economic issues and everything else they
could definitely cause some big issues and big
disruptions even though i know they already are
but i'm saying if we don't burn the manufacturing
back here and most that's still in taiwan a lot
of it's in china we're screwed so the fact that
it's not just in another country But it's in
another country that is literally on the doorstep
of a adversary. But also on the other side of
the fucking planet is a huge issue. Not just
strategically, but logistically as well. Imagine
how much cheaper all this stuff could be if it
was made domestically. Or even regionally. But
again, if again, if it's in a situation where
they can make the most amount of money. Regardless
of what everything else is, that's what that
company is going to do. It doesn't matter if
it doesn't make sense. It doesn't matter if you're
not creating jobs in the U .S. It doesn't matter
any of that. If they can make the most amount
of profit while they can right this second, they're
going to do it. They don't. These fools don't
care. No. I wish they did, but they don't. They
never have and never will. That's why you'd have
to use tax incentives to get them back over here.
Yeah, absolutely. That's the only way to do it.
So, all right, we'll go to the next one on our
list. If we go down the line on everything, this
is going to be like a five -hour episode. Yeah,
we don't need to do that. No, not for just our
first one. I need food for my tum -tum. Oh, boy.
So we'll dip our toes into the economics and
cyber threats. One thing I wanted to touch on,
Fannie Mae removed the credit rating requirements
for buying a house. That's going into effect
next week. It would be really weird if we had
historical data to pull from to show whether
or not that's a bad idea. Didn't this weird thing
happen in like 2006 to 2008 or 2009 where? A
bunch of people buying houses they really couldn't
afford because the government forced them to
be able to sell to people that couldn't afford
the houses. And then all of a sudden we had this
big crash, this big problem. Isn't that the thing
that happened? Yeah. Yeah. So that's going to
happen again. So if you own a house or thinking
about buying a house, get ready for that fucking
roller coaster. That'll be fun. Or hear me out.
Put some money aside. Save some because if the
crash is coming, why buy one house today when
you can buy two houses in like five years? or
10 houses in three years yeah yeah also side
note you too could become a song lord that's
my plan that's there you go but oh shit but the
other thought is do you guys see that trump was
talking about he was trying to champion the 50
-year mortgage a 50 -year mortgage i heard this
morning and what they were talking about was
laying out the groundwork for a 50 -year mortgage
so i know they do that in california Well, yeah,
because a square foot of land is a million dollars.
But that makes no damn sense because you're going
to be dead before that's paid off. Your children
are going to be taking on that. That's the idea.
I was going to say, that is literally the point.
Yeah. We are now moving back to feudal society
where the land is going to be generational. Yeah.
Like, I want this house I'm in to be generational,
but I want it to be paid off before I pass it
on. Right. Exactly. You want it to be generational
by choice. Yes, not by force. Yeah, that's what's
going to happen. I'll tell you right now. Jesus.
So sticking with some of the AI themes and economics,
malware developers, if I could speak, are using
AI to ransomware as a service. So they're using
AI -generated scripts to come up with... the
hard to defeat tools to take people for all their
worth. They're taking houses from people. They're
taking other property from people and they're
doing it before the, um, anti malware companies
can write, um, code to get around this shit.
Yeah. And they're using deep fake videos, deep
fake audio on the fly. This is something that
everybody that's literally 65 and older has got
to start being aware of and watching out for.
Yeah. If you're smart, you lock your credit,
you lock everything down, you get copies of everything
and you make sure that like nothing can be taken
away from you. If you even have to put your house
on a trust or do whatever you got to do with
your finances. Well, you even need to periodically
go down to your local courthouse and make sure
that if you own a home that. deed is still in
your name that is still registered the property
is registered to you your home's registered to
you because yeah all that can also you don't
even have to be aware of it and all next thing
you know you're getting an eviction notice from
your own home yeah then we gotta change i think
in america it's kind of like an america thing
but we do have to change how some of our laws
work about property and houses and everything
else because boy do i think it's really freaking
archaic that you can somehow manage to deep fake
your way through some of this stuff without having
to show like proof of identification or physical
proof. Yeah. Like some of this stuff needs to
be like, you have to be there in person with
a person, not like via robot surrogate or something
crazy. Like, nah, nah, nah. Like, like, like,
you know, flesh and blood. Yes. Here's my thumbprint
on the paperwork. Yeah. Yeah. Not to mention
like, oh, well, where's the deed? Where's the
original deed that you got when you bought said
property? Yeah. Oh, I don't have it anymore.
You're not doing that today. You're going to
have to do a lot more than just say, hey, I want
to change the name on the deed. No. I feel like
I bet you there's a lot of older people that
have children or grandchildren that they're not
really involved with their finances that I think
a lot of people are going to be losing their
assets. Their fortunes, their houses, their businesses,
whatever, because they will unknowingly give
this information. Like, I bet you the deep fakes
of people calling about being the IRS and being
like, is the IRS calling? You owe back taxes.
Just give us your card and information now. We
can handle this. Don't worry about it. Yeah.
They already have your contact information. We'll
actually take a gift card today. Yeah. Yeah.
And we'll take a gift card if necessary. Yeah.
Well, you're what screws me up is at work, I
get Google calls. So people will hire Google.
to call my area around different auto shops to
see about the prices for certain things. So I'll
literally have an AI assistant call me and be
like, hey, this is my name and I have this vehicle.
I'm looking, what's the price for this service
and when can it be done? And I hate to say it,
I have to answer it because it could be work
we could be doing, but it's fucking weird that
even in my industry, I'm having AI, I get probably
one or two a day because some people just use
it all the time. So let alone someone getting
scammed, I'm not surprised. That's why, honestly,
with my older family, I just tell them if you
don't know the name, you do not answer it, whether
it be a phone number or text or anything. If
they're important, they'll leave a voicemail
and you can get back to them. Also, an important
thing, do not say the word yes in the initial
half of the call. No matter what they're saying,
just do not say yes. Because they can record
that, transpose it over a different conversation,
and it'll end up them saying, do I have your
permission to charge your card for $500? And
when they play it back, it'll have you saying
yes. Yes. Just don't do it. For legal reasons,
I have to say this. This is me pondering. I have
no idea if this is possible. I wonder if there's
somebody that has a business out of doing that.
Where they'll call you multiple times, get you
to answer, and they ask you three different sentences,
and they AI it all together. And they say, yeah,
you approve this purchase of $1 ,000. What's
the problem? Yeah, we have the recording of it.
Yeah? Yeah. How can you prove it? New business
model for fundraising. Oh, my God. Non -consensual
donation. Yeah, that's a good change. Oh, man.
Yeah, that's not going to go tits up fast. Right?
NCD charity. So we've been talking about AI and
the workplace. Do you guys think that there should
be any kind of a mandate for AI skills and skills
training development for kids in school, workers
in the workforce right now to at least brace
for and keep their jobs? Or is this something
that might just pass over? What do you guys think?
I honestly think that there should be some sort
of training. That's like having kids go through
school and not learn about computers. They should
absolutely learn about whatever's in the workplace
right now. If it's AI, make certain they're learning
about it right now. If it turns into something
else, they should absolutely be trained on. If
the current AI setup is not going to be functioning
in 10, 15 years, so be it. Just like anybody
that's in the computer market that deals with
software, that are dealing with cybersecurity,
any of that, you're going to want to get training
on whatever's being used right now. So that way,
going forward, you at least have that in your
tool belt. Yep. 100%. It should be the obvious
case of the kids need to be trained with how
to use and abuse AI. to their advantage but also
i think there needs to be the equal point of
they need to have marketable and trainable skills
because the problem i see is ai can easily do
80 to 90 of all the academic work that you need
to do in a lot of these higher institutions so
the problem i look at is a computer will be able
to analyze the data faster than you can a computer
will be able to look at large pieces of numbers
and data and information graphs and all that
much quicker than you can but what can't the
ai do AI can't do hard labor, skilled labor,
things that require a lot of creative problem
solving and different things like that. But for
example, if you're like an electrician out in
the field, you're not going to hire a robot to
do your electrical work on your house, at least
not anytime soon. So there are certain things
where I think kids need to be aware of like,
hey, this is how you do things. This is how you
work out in the real world. But here's AI and
here's how you can use it to your advantage.
Because vice versa. If you're somebody that knows
how to use both of those very well, I bet like
80 % of almost all jobs are open to you at that
point. Because again, just because you can't
physically or mentally do it, if you can get
something else to do it, and that way you just
turn that work in, it's still work, whether the
AI is doing it or not. I've seen several cases
of people that talk about that their data analysts,
that they literally will code and create an AI
to do all that for them. And they'll work like
a couple of those jobs at the same time. It's
like, well, you can't fault me on it. I can do
all this work of two people. So I work two jobs.
I literally just have an AI that I programmed.
And take it mad. They're doing the work. Yeah,
it's still getting done. Especially, God forbid,
if you can be smart enough to do an AI consulting
firm. oh god yeah if you if you are smart enough
to be able to do that and be able to have like
nine or ten different ais that all work and talk
to each other and create your own consulting
firm for businesses and other stuff like that
congratulations you don't have a business that
has a low like the world's lowest overhead and
the highest productivity like congratulations
here's all the money you've won you win capitalism
congratulations here's your badge you know yeah
uh should companies be responsible for training
their existing workforce on AI, or is that the
worker's own responsibility? The company. It
should be the company. Okay. I think, just as
the type of person I am, that you should take
it upon yourself to learn the parts of it that
at least interest you and that you gravitate
towards naturally. Let the company dictate their
needs for it with you and cover those costs,
those training expenses. But anything in that
field that you yourself are interested in, like
the things that we've been doing for the show
in the background. I've had to learn all that,
but I'm learning more and finding other uses.
So I'm learning to apply that secondarily. But
here's the thing. We are a group of people that
are. technologically savvy. Do you trust the
average 54 to like 60 year old that knows nothing
about technology to be able to research how AI
works? Are you kidding me? No. They are going
to end up on sides of the internet that they
don't know or understand. They don't know why
they're there and why are they going to tell
you. It's going to get out of hand so quick.
They're like, oh, this new fangled AI. No, it's
not going to go well. What's this bluewaffle
.exe? Oh, my God. I'm sorry. You totally, totally
got me on that one. But I do understand. Eczema
fries? What are these? But we're moving on from
that one. That's an aside. But I guess what I'm
getting at is there are certain age groups, I
think, that are good at researching online or
maybe certain types of people. I think there's
a lot of people, though. They're not going to
have any idea what to search up, how this operates.
Oh, yeah. How it even thinks. I think it's such
a foreign concept. There are people that struggle
with dialing on a smartphone. You think they're
going to be able to research what an AI is and
how that works? Other than the problem is they're
going to mistake everything for AI. It's like,
no, that's not an AI. That's a door lock. It's
a number pad. You just put in the number. Come
on. I want someone to make. An on -screen phone
dialer that works like the old rotary phones.
What does that have? Google made a keyboard that
works like that. Oh, Lord. You can even get the
plans to 3D print and make it yourself. Do you
remember how aggravating it would be to type?
Like, they have to go A, C, B. Oh, my God. Hey,
but guess what? Your kids wouldn't know how to
use it. Right? T9 locks out kids. T9 and cursive
locks out kids. Oh, yeah. Maybe that's how we
send. My nine -year -old hates learning cursive.
Maybe that's how we send secure messages in the
future. It's all T9 and cursive on our phones.
T9 and cursive. Good. I got fast at T9 back when
I did that. Oh, dude, you ain't kidding. Yeah.
I could sit there and drive and just be like,
and I would be within a digit or two the whole
way. Well, I had a sidekick. I have those thumb
skills. Sidekick, you know, just flip it out.
I will happily thank T9 for the reason why my
girlfriend's happy. Hell yes, buddy. Thank you,
T9. I appreciate it. Look it up for me. Look
it up for me. Just flexing that thumb muscle.
Look at that. Look at that. Right? T9 power,
baby. Oh, man. Oh, God. I am so sorry to people
watching that without context. If you happen
to fast forward to that point, you're in for
a run. If that's the part you hit. Oh, my God.
Oh, so tying in quantum computing with AI. Advances
in CRISPR technology. We mentioned that at the
start. Boutique babies. Holy shit. That's just
going to be getting way out of hand. The fact
that they've used CRISPR to essentially cure
type 1 diabetes. Fuck yes. That's an awesome
advancement in use of it. Yeah. Fuck yeah. Now,
the question is for the cure for type 1. Is that
going to be something they're going to be rolling
out? Or are they just going to keep treating
people for it? I think the way I understood it,
the method they applied was a permanent fix.
There's no treatment. It's just they do this
and it's done. The pancreas starts to produce
insulin again. Damn. Yeah. So is that just going
to be for a few or is that going to be for all?
They're going to have to pay for that. That's
not going to be a cheap treatment. You know that.
That's going to be a Justin Timberlake bill.
Basically, yeah. So when you pair AI -backed
quantum computing power, the level of advancement
that we're going to see in drug science, material
science, other forms of computer science advancement,
I think we're in for a really wild ride. You're
tying it in with quantum? Oh, yeah. Whatever
you've got going on right now when it comes to
normal security, anything, the moment you step
over into the quantum computing side of it. It's
done. Yeah. That's, yeah. So your personal security
is going to work like the banks work in South
Park, and it's gone. Literally in that time span,
they will figure out your password to everything,
your login stuff, any of your encryption, any
information. Nothing will be safe. There will
be no such thing as privacy on the internet.
If it's connected to the internet, it will be
public. Once the quantum security is implemented,
all security goes away, essentially. We have
to go back to analog. And also... Whatever you
have connected to the internet, if you have something
that's not connected to the internet, it can't
be within a certain distance because you could
still potentially listen to things to get whatever's
on that computer that has been shown to work.
Yep. They have programs that can listen to the
tapping of keyboards and get information that
way. Yes. Those are the offline key loggers.
That's great. Isn't technology wonderful? And
people said the CIA back in the 70s and 80s were
totally not messing with people. If all this
is just public information now. Imagine what's
going to be public information in 50 years. Oh,
yeah. We're going to be sitting there in the
nursing home saying, fuck it. I told you. Give
me my own. Clicks on the phone meant something.
It's bold of you to assume any of us will be
in a nursing home. I think you're going to be
blown up by then, or it's just going to be cheaper,
cheaper to upload people. I'm still hoping for
the upload option. You know this. I know. I don't
know how I feel about that. I'm still. I fully
intend on harassing my descendants for a long,
long time. And not just my descendants. I want
to harass other people's descendants. It's going
to be a computer monitor with like pincher arms.
So he's just coming in. I'm going to get you.
But then I have to have the interactable face
so that when the hot 20 something Brazilian nurses
come in. I can convince him to come over and
just be like. Let me show you my. See Gibbs,
this is what you've been missing. Yeah. It's
Jesus Christ. Oh God. On the defense front, we've
been implementing AI to help predict solar storms
and space weather. So helping satellites not
get shut down and knocked out of orbit. That's
been a plus. So Starlink and the new Chinese
version of Starlink, because they stole that
from us too. Of course. That's been operational.
They also stole. getting hit by space debris
and getting their astronauts stuck in space.
Yeah, they stole all the wrong shit. Their astronauts
are stuck on their space station right now. Yeah.
To be fair, though, they're stuck for a very
different reason. The capsule on their space
station got hit by a space rock or a piece of
debris, and they're not sure if it's safe. So
I will at least give them a pass on that one.
It's not just Chinese quality control. It's a
legit issue. It's actually the Chinese being
very un -Chinese and actually caring about their
people. You know what? I want to give them a
round of applause. I'm glad you're improving.
I'm glad. That's great. You're actually valuing
the lives of people. It's very un -Chinese. They
cared about people for a second. Holy shit. They're
not number 1 ,503 ,682. Right. Wow. We're really
rubbing off on them. I wonder if one of their
astronauts' names is Sum Ting Wong. Sum Ting
Wong and Bang Ting Au reporting for duty. Or
you hear dat. Oh, we're assholes. So you had
something you wanted to talk about. And this
is kind of putting our mushroom stamp back in
the political realm. The digital ID going over
in UK. Yeah. So this has been a proposal that
it's basically. It went live. Well, so the full
rollout will be into August 2020. But what they're
doing in England, which if anybody, if any of
you have been here before on this show, you understand
that we're not the biggest fans of like government
outreach control, stuff like that. That's not
really our domain. That's not really a fan of
that. Well, that's the American way. Well, apparently
that's now the English way. Because the UK, they're
basically proposing a digital ID that will require
a government -backed app and basically a separate
login. They will have details like your name,
date of birth, nationality, residency status,
where you work, the amount of, like, your bank
account records, your credit records, all your
medical records and everything. The idea is to
have everything about you into one app, one location.
That way you need that for proof when you either
want to use the health care service or interactions
with the police department when you want to get
hired. The big note I had here that he had said,
Keir Starmer said live on TV was local authorities
will be allowed to view the contents and messages
on your phone without a warrant. These devices
will allow access to the police at all times
for all messages. The UK digital ID is not mandatory.
Now, this is the big thing. Digital UK ID is
not mandatory. It's only mandatory if you want
to have your right to work or receive any benefits.
So when you find out that none of your information
is no longer in the system, does that mean they're
coming for you to kill you? Probably. What it
is, it's making a two -tiered system. Or a two
-class system. Yes. And it's going to be such
a big issue. Wait, I saw this movie, Demolition
Man. Yeah. Yeah. Everybody that lived underground
didn't have the IDs and they still touch each
other. None of the little high five bullshit.
They also eat rat burgers. Rat burgers. Yes.
Juicy. Give me, give me the rat burgers. But
it was a little, it was a little side note. I
wanted to point out, we're discussing all the
AI stuff because I guess my worry is. If you
join those two things, you're going to have a
government that has access to literally all the
information about you that can easily be hacked
or gotten into, and that information can be disseminated.
How are you going to be able to not only prove
anyone's identification, but then also not be
able to spoof someone else's ID? How can you
not frame people for crimes? How can you not
steal someone else's bank account or information?
You know, just reference V for Vendetta, by the
way. Just a little side note. Reference that
movie for a few different things here. That's
where the UK is going, and I guess my concern
is that other countries, particularly America,
would eventually go that route. I think, obviously,
we would probably not, but it's something to
keep an eye on. For now, I think we still have
too well of an armed citizenry to allow that
to happen, and too many people that still care.
Give it 50 years, and that may change. China
is in that same boat because they have a lot
of mandatory digital IDs as well. Well, they've
been way more. Oh, yeah. Well, they also have
their social credit system. Yeah. Now, tie the
two together. Our last episode before we went
off the air in a mirror darkly, we talked about
that whole social credit program. And I think
it's all going to tie in together. If they implement
one, they will implement the rest. Of course.
So it's really just a set of. horrifying dominoes
that we got to watch out for. Well, it's something
that I think might be inevitable, but let's use
what happens in England as a case against it.
Yeah. Because I, there's so many riots already
happening. There's so much violence already going
on. Yeah. That country's already tearing itself
apart at the seams. Well, it's not just England.
It's a lot of Europe that's kind of fighting
back against a lot of stuff. Yeah, they're also
really pissed off about immigration and, yeah.
It's weird. Politics are... Every country but
Poland. Can't imagine why. It's weird. Just do
a little research. European Texas at it again.
I know. Gotta love that. It's weird. These Texans...
What, you want to come here and you don't have
documentation? Here, have a hose. Say it's cruel,
say it's inhumane, but you know what? It fucking
works. Yeah. It's weird. Those European Texans
love pierogies. I don't know what's going on.
They make me so proud. Oh, shit. It's crazy when
laws have consequences. I know, right? Not like
New York will know what that is. They won't know
any of that anymore. No. New York better lock
up their goats. Hide your goats. Hide your sheep.
I have nothing to do with that comment. I have
nothing to do with that. That's all him. That's
all him. I have nothing to do with that. That
is not the opinion of the podcast. That is solely
my opinion. Yes. Oh, yeah. New York's in for
it. I can't wait for us to report on the government
run grocery stores. Yeah. That's going to go
the same. Yeah, that's not going to make any
money for the government. People will still steal
from it. I bet. Yes. No way. You know what the
excuse will be? It's not that they're stealing
from the grocery store. Their taxes paid for
it. So why do they need to pay for it again?
Well, they're free. That's going to be the excuse.
I guess you can't steal if it's free because
the grocery stores are supposed to be free. Oh,
are they? So here's my question. How are you
going to keep food in there? Here's my question.
If somebody doesn't live in New York City, am
I allowed to just drive down there, fill it up
with stuff in the driveway? No, because you'll
have to have your digital ID to prove that you're
a New York resident. That, I think, is going
to be the implementation. So all I have to do
is make an AI program that makes me a New York
ID, drive down there with a truckload. Don't
give them ideas. Don't give them ideas. But I'm
giving me ideas. because like how are they going
to stop if that's the case then road trip y 'all
because i mean like what would be great it's
coming the same way now i think this would be
the greatest point ever to a bunch of communists
to be like yeah everything's free that's right
yeah that's awesome i'm taking all of it they're
like what do you mean like i have a truck you
don't like what are you gonna do yeah that's
that's when you just load up the truck And on
the way out, he just rolled on the window. Got
milk. Just walked right in my face. Literally,
to make a point, I would load up my eight -foot
bed truck with food, get it up to the Brooklyn
Bridge, and throw it all out in the water. Just
like, yeah, the new tea party. Jesus. Oh, God.
That could have fed so many people. I don't know.
It was free. It wasn't going to feed anybody.
I don't know. It's going to feed the fish. Eat
the fish. Fish are people too. Guess what? The
fish are hungry. Fish are friends, not food.
Oh, God. Okay, Nori. All right. So we got through
all the points that we wanted to talk about tonight.
And before we wrap up the show, we're going to
use this as a beginning of show topic, I think,
next time. We are, and this is kind of a bigger
announcement, so definitely want to bring this
up early next time. We are working on a live
show. We have spoken with an establishment that
is, yes, go ahead. I think there's some clarification.
Not just a live show, an in -person show. Yes,
thank you. Yes, an in -person live show that
will be hosted by an establishment. Excuse me.
And once we have all the details finalized, we
will get everything out to everyone. And we will
have the opportunity for the meet and greet.
We'll have seating available. There will be beverages
available for purchase. Like I said, we're still
working out all the fine details. As of right
now, we are looking at Labor Day weekend. So
it's still a ways off. But plenty of time to
get everything set up and done right. We're giving
you all like a 10 -month head start on this.
Yep. Sunday, September 6th is the prospective
date. So mark your calendars. If anything changes,
we'll let you all know. But as of right now,
that is what's going on. All three of us will
be there in person. These two are going to make
the trip and come down. Oh, yeah. It will be
in Lancaster, Ohio. So we'll keep you all updated.
I'll be sure to take a bath. Yes, we'll all shower
together. So we'll... We're going to need a bigger
shower, buddy. Just don't drop the soap. Thank
God I have a Planet Fitness membership. I have
somewhere else to shower. Right? And there's
a Planet Fitness down the road. Oh, good. Okay,
cool. So my butthole is safe another day. Yes.
Well, your butthole is, but your ears aren't
with Carly. You know what, though? She was much
better. Yes. She was much better recently. Yeah.
So I was reminded that you are, in fact, a brave
individual. In one of our previous episodes.
I mentioned that you are a well -marbled person,
a well -marbled human, and you still came back
to the house. Talking about the whole I would
eat a person if I had to. Oh! Yeah, you remember
that one? I think it's because I know I have
a pretty good chance in a fist fight with you.
So I was like, yeah, you know. Yeah. What are
the worst that'll happen? Although, as I've learned,
if I have too many edibles, I have no chance
in a fist fight. Oh, God, yes. Those were great.
Jesus. I still have some, and I'm, ow. You're
worried about those. Yeah. I knew I was in for
a good time when the guy was just like, this
is a very good quality that you're buying. It's
like, oh, boy. Maybe I shouldn't eat the whole
thing. Proceeds to eat the whole thing. The problem
is I had two. I didn't realize you ate two. I
thought you just ate one like the rest of us.
No, I had both of them. I was like, I'm used
to this stuff. This is nothing new. He was not
ready for the Ohio experience. I think I was
drunk. I feel like those were not what they were
advertising. Because Jesus Christ. Wait, drugged?
Well, technically drugs. It was drugs. It was
just I consented to a certain amount, and the
amount that I took was not the amount that I
consented to. It surprised me. It's like, hey,
you know. Yeah, you got a free double dose. Oh,
yeah. Lessons were learned. You were orbiting
the earth that night. It was bad. It was bad.
You were looking like a baggy up there. I wasn't
the airport too, which is fucking scary. The
lady behind Dunkin' Donuts had to call me three
times while I was staring at her waiting for
my fucking donut. I was like, oh, yeah, I'm fucked.
This is bad. This is bad. Oh, shit. You never
told us about that one. Oh, I felt so bad. I
don't remember the order number because I don't
remember fucking shit. But I had just ordered,
so she knew that was for me. So she's looking
at me going, order blank, jelly donut. And I
was like. I'm still just like looking. She's
like your donut. It was bad. Oh God. Never again.
I put the crummy in the bag. I'm so sorry. It
was bad. Oh shit. It was bad. You ever get so
high you get confused in a public bathroom? That
was probably me the next day. Oh, yeah. It was
bad. But it was fun. We had a good time. But
we will not be doing that at the live show, though,
at the in -person show. No. Speak for yourself.
I might take a quarter. A quarter, that's fine.
That show, that's going to be the show that everybody's
going to be like, why? What did we talk about?
I don't know. I was giggling the whole time.
Oh yeah. So yeah, live shows in the works. We
hope that if you're hearing this message that
you'll show up, it should be a very good time.
But yeah, we'll talk about that more in the upcoming
episodes, which by the way, the lineup we have
for this season is looking to be amazing. So
anything else guys? No. No, I just want to say
we have a lot of stuff in the works. Obviously,
we're polishing a couple of things for the next
few episodes and trying to get a couple of the
quirks worked out because software loves to update
and change things. That's great. Yeah. Yeah.
We just did our checks yesterday and then software
was like, oh, by the way, guys. It's funny. But
no, I think we have a lot of stuff coming up
and I'm looking very much forward to it, especially
we have a few different changes coming up. Good
stuff. Good stuff. Yep. Yeah. All right, folks.
Well, we're going to go ahead and end it there.
So thank you all for hanging out and we'll see
you all in the next one. Bye. Bye.