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through the parts of your day you normally dread.

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Why suffer through the existential crisis of

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life alone when you can do it with us? And now

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we consume. This is not meant to be a conspiracy

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episode or podcast, but we may cover some topics

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that dance that line like a toddler dances on

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their mother's last nerve. This podcast is rated

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I. For immature audiences only. If you've ever

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dreamed of living in a megacity like in the Judge

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Dredd comics, this is the show for you. Welcome

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to the Now We Consume podcast. I'm your host,

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Pip. Here as always with my co -host is Gibbs.

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I am internally screaming. When are you not when

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I'm around? Usually it's for fear. Right now

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it's just because of existence. That's the usual

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difference right now. The daily existential crisis

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of existence. continues to grind and that's why

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we're here yeah unfortunately it sounds more

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like rip and tear at this point the rip and the

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tear exactly oh I hope you know that reference

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hedonism to the resort the rip and the tear oh

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yes so I hope everybody had a good 4th of July

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weekend hope everybody's coming back with all

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All digits intact and hearing with no extra tinnitus.

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Freedom rings 24 -7 when you're a combat veteran.

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Fuck yeah. I've never heard that. I don't know

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how the hell I've never heard that. That's fucking

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hilarious. Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. It was a good

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weekend. Did you get out and get some sun? You

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look a little redder than usual. It's not blood

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pressure related. Well, it's been both but no

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it was good and had some fun honestly got away

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for the weekend and just kind of Kind of uh,

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you know, you know spend a little bit of time

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just relaxing taking Honestly, just want to get

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away from the city. That was my big thing Just

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wanted to be out the middle of nowhere hang out

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with the girl and just just relax, you know enjoy

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some good food a little bit of traveling and

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just You know be at peace for a little bit Until

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I came back here and then I'm being bullied.

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So that's a whole different thing. That's what

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we do around here. Exactly. But no, I had a fun

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time celebrating. How should I say? England taking

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a big fat L on that one. So thank you guys. I

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appreciate your participation trophy, but you

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also get a loser's trophy. So this is why we

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don't listen to the opinions of England. Because

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you're losers. Yeah, I hope England enjoyed that

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day of work on Friday. Oh, yeah. Holy fuck nuts.

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Good. Yeah. God, the thunder. Sorry. Oh. I'm

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sorry. That thunder kind of came out of nowhere.

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It's been storming. So I hope the podcast. I

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hope I don't lose power tonight because holy

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shit. oh god well you know that'll be a fun one

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to experiment with so tonight's episode cities

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of the future uh we had teased about this in

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last week's episode and uh we've we've actually

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mentioned this in a few prior episodes and we

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wanted to do a whole episode dedicated to this

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topic because it's something that we've actually

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talked about a few times uh Just amongst ourselves,

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taking the concept of shrinking down the living

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space and condensing people into a smaller area,

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making it efficient, and trying to min -max the

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space. Like I said in the intro, the Judge Dredd

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comics showed the concept of the megacity. Many

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years ago, I had a concept. of taking warehouses

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and converting those into smaller versions of

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the mega cities and putting, you know, retail

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and commercial space in the lower levels and

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residential space above because warehouses can

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get pretty fucking huge and you could get a lot

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of apartments into that kind of a space. You

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put solar up on top, recycled water systems,

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irrigation, you can grow food. I mean, it's not

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going to be totally self -sufficient, but it

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would. cut down a fair amount on the amount of

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external input that you would need to run it.

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And a lot of people, maybe not everybody, but

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a lot of people that live there could also work

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there. So again, you're minimizing the outflow

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of traffic from that footprint of a building.

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So you expand on that and you take it to a citywide

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concept and you start putting multiples of these

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miniature cities and buildings. all around a

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city block a city mile and expand it it's what

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they were trying to do with the line over in

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where was that saudi arabia yes yes uh which

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the line was supposed to be this 100 kilometer

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or 500 kilometer it's down to like five miles

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or some bullshit now that they're maybe trying

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to build in the desert and it's it's a failed

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project It's going to be a luxury idea. It's

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really what that's going to be. Yes. It's going

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to be a little Dubai in Saudi Arabia. Yeah, exactly.

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Yes. One of the things that, because we've been

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discussing this for a while and we've had our

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own ideas and other things, there is an inherent

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problem with the way we built cities. And I think

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it's because we did not understand the rate of

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growth. and the influx of immigration and everything

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else that we would have in many of these major

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cities, where because these cities are so segmented,

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meaning designated separate zones for industry,

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commercial, residential, the inherent problem

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you always have is everything is so separated

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that it is difficult to handle logistics, and

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it always creates an unnecessary amount of traffic.

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because they were never designed really with

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vehicles in mind up until recently and even then

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look at some of the cities that are designed

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even more recently they still suck yeah all of

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them are terrible yeah uh the east coast cities

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you can really see that in literally anything

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east of the mississippi the traffic is horrendous

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and the bigger the city the more east coast you

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get that's just more prevalent uh cities like

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new york boston uh philadelphia those cities

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were not properly configured with modern traffic

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flows in mind. And they're a nightmare to have

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to drive around. And you're talking about, they

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were considered cities back when they had a couple

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hundred thousand people. Now when you have multiple

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millions that have to get in and out every day,

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it's a nightmare. Right. So I do understand why

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there's a big movement for these new city concepts.

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And I understand why there's a lot of people

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in different groups that are trying to find ways.

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To make it more efficient. Yeah. But as you'll

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see, it's one thing to go from useful ideas to

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taking away your rights and other options and

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other things. There's this weird fine line that

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we're going to be discussing tonight here that

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I think people are going to need to be aware

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of. And you can even see it happening in some

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of your local cities. So some of the stuff that

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we're talking about, you might be vaguely familiar

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with. Yeah. And this whole concept originally

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started with the high -rise buildings. They were

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intended to be you live here, you work here,

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or you work within walking distance. But as populations

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increased, the living space needed to be more

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and the working space in and within walking distance

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of those buildings needed to be less. So as the

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car became more popular, the idea of walking

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to work was less popular. That's why most people

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commute now. You'll see this weird overlap and

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you can even look at it. Boston is a really great

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example for this. I happen to be near it. So

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I kind of know the housing prices in Boston versus

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outside the city. Yes, there were a difference,

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but you weren't talking three or four times the

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price of a 10 times the price per square foot.

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You were talking 30 to 50 % increase because

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they were near the city. But back then you could

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still afford to work in the city and live in

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or near the city because that was back before

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there were massive traffic changes. Now, because

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of commute times, because of the availability

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for commercial space and industrial space, nowadays

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in every single metropolis or megacity I can

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think of, that residential space is at such a

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premium that now per square foot you're talking

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three times, five times, sometimes even ten times

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the cost in some areas, which is insane for the

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same square footage, not to mention you have

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to factor in things like parking. or being able

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to even get a car, because for a lot of those

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cities, you still need a vehicle, whereas something

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like maybe out west, not as much. Like, because

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I know Boston really well, you can get around

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without a car, but there's a lot of areas of

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Boston that you can't necessarily get to, or

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it's going to be hours. So it's this weird problem

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of, with a lot of, especially, you're right,

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east coast cities, of because of the traffic,

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it has risen the prices exorbitantly. of any

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residential whether it be high rises or any property

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of any sort condos renting anything to where

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now that housing has become a far bigger issue

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than what it even used to be 20 years ago yeah

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because they're trying to beat the commute because

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now the commute is way longer than just using

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the poor you know public transport that's in

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the area right and that's been you know falling

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apart for for decades as well so that's It boggles

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my mind, and I hate using that word, but it really

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noodles my casserole that the remote work concept

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is as frowned upon as it is. The amount of office

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jobs that could be done remote, we saw during

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COVID that that works. I can tell you from someone

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that I know, the thing that I found out, which

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was interesting, was so many companies. use the

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write -offs and losses on property in the taxes

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for the company that it literally they save more

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money by paying people extra to work in the office

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and then do the tax write -offs for the building

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and everything else and they would save by just

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not having those and paying people less which

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is insane. But if you're a multi -billion dollar

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company, like let's just say Intel or some big

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insurance company like Progressive or Geico or

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something like that or whatever, any one of those

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big names you can think of, any one of the top

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500s, they have thousands of people. They have

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thousands of people they hire specifically to

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figure out what is the best way to save us the

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most money. And unfortunately, good and bad news,

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but they can write off a lot on depreciation

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and losses. So it's one of those things where

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let's just say if they can write off a few million

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dollars, if not tens of millions of dollars on

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property loss, if they can pay you an extra $5

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,000, $10 ,000 a year to do it, and there's just

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100 people that work there, I hate to say it,

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but the math works out because they're still

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keeping a leverageable asset. Yeah. Because that's

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the other thing. A lot of these companies, they

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can't leverage their intellectual property for

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loans, but they can. But see, that takes us back

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to the initial concept. that building space then

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could become a living space. They would be better

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off having, and I agree with your assessment

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100%, of more multi -use spaces where the idea

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is it could be half residential, half commercial,

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and then offer those apartments to people that

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work in the company, work out a deal, figure

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it out. All of a sudden now, there's way less

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of a demand on public transport. Or transport

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of any kind at all. Because you just go down

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a set of stairs. Like, oh no, long commute to

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work. It took me 97 steps. Like, poof, whatever

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will I do? But I think your idea of the multi

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-use... Sorry I was late for work. I tripped

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down the stairs. And it's one of these problems

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that's a little bit more uniquely American because

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of our cities and because of our lifestyle and

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everything else that's going on. But it is something

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that's definitely solvable. It just depends on

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how we want to solve that. And there's a few

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different avenues I think we could do. I do think

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maybe the way we should do it with your multi

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-use purpose space idea is maybe make it so that

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you can write off a significant percentage of

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taxes multiplied by the amount of multi -use

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space that you're using. So the idea is if you're,

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let's just say, Intel and you buy a big building

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and you have a third of it be industrial and

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a third of it... be residential all of a sudden

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now hey maybe you can write off 66 of the taxes

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on that building maybe you incentivize efficiency

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possibly but it would have to be occupied and

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used and not just sitting empty oh of course

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they'd have to be like usage uh minimums for

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all of that yeah but at least if they did relocated

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some of that imagine the idea of let's just say

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you worked at Some company that they had a bunch

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of boxes, like you run, because I know this industry,

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you run like a kitchen company. We rebuild kitchens

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and everything like that. You do that for restaurants.

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You have all your inventory down the basement,

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down the lower floors, and you have your commercial

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stuff on the mid floor and your residential up

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top. All of a sudden now it's like, hey, the

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people that work here, we have everything in

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this one building. Everything we need, all of

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our trucks, all of our everything. And that way

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people can save money and also be more flexible.

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Because I also don't think people realize, but

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like all that commuting time. I think there's

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a lot of people that'd be willing to split the

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difference to be at work and be home. Like the

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amount of people I know that drive an hour to

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work every day or at least 45 minutes. Oh yeah.

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What's the average commute time now? It's like

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an hour. Almost. It was getting close to an hour.

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Last time I looked, I last time I looked, it

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was like 48 or 50 minutes. Yeah. But that was

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like six months ago, I think. And that's every

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day each way. Yeah. So if, if you got that kind

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of time back in your life, I mean like I, I have

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a very good friend who just got, that kind of

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time back in their life because they moved for

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their job. And now they got back like an hour

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and a half a day. Oh, and like the life change

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that that can give you. It's insane. So you're

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talking an extra 50 hours a month. Yeah. If it's

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an hour and a half, like imagine that, that,

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that, that is almost work week at a, at a, at

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a day. Yeah. And then some, depending on your

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schedule. I think there's something that a lot

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of corporations don't realize that travel time

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has become such a nuisance. Oh yeah. Community

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has become such an issue that I know there's

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a lot of people that would say, Hey, I'd be willing

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to work an extra hour a day. If that means I

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could live above where I work and just go home

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like five o 'clock, I clock out and I'm home.

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Yeah. However, And I know we're going to talk

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a little bit more about this a little bit later,

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but that brings into question the issue of homeownership

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and renting, leasing from your living space from

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the company you work at. Because what happens

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if the company goes under? What happens if they

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sell out? I will quote the World Economic Forum.

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You will owe nothing and be happy about it. Yep,

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that is the eventual future we are moving towards.

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I do not want. I don't want it either, but I

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think they are definitely pushing, and I say

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they meaning, unfortunately, some of the wealthy

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billionaires that are all interconnected, that

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they foresee a future for the world on their

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terms. The shadowy cabal that secretly tries

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to run the world. Yes. Their heads are shaped

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like Doritos. Probably. You never know at this

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point. It's all the Bohemian Grove types, should

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I say. But there was a famous video about some

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of the guys from the World Economic Forum saying

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that in the future, the city of 2035, 2040, the

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average person will own nothing. They'll be happy.

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They will rent everything. Everything will be

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a subscription. Everything will be a rental.

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You will never gain a leverageable asset. This

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is where I think, unfortunately, we are heading

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at some point. We're going to talk more about

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the different options with some of the city stuff,

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but this I did want to cover really quick. I

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think there's a lot of cities who are going in

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the direction of there's no way to buy real estate.

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There's no way to buy commercial property. Everything

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you will have, eventually, there are some cities

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now where you can even own a car or they don't

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want you to own a car. Do you think that's been

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the plan with the retail housing market? Drive

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the prices up so high that no one has the option

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to buy, so they just have to rent or lease them

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from these companies. Maybe that's why these

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companies have been buying these houses up at

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the rate they have been. They don't want you

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to buy them. They want to buy them so you can

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rent them from them. They will take the short

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-term loss to have the long -term gain of owning

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all of the rentable property. Because here becomes

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the problem down the road. What happens is, let's

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just say... Black Rock, Vanguard, State Street,

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all of them. What if they own 20 % of all the

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houses in an area? Well, congratulations. They

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can now set the rental price. They can control

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who gets mortgages because they're also the banks

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that you're pulling the money from. People don't

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understand. The same people who are trying to

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borrow money to buy a house, to then rent it

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out, they're the same people getting the money

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from and trying to out -rent. They're always

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going to beat you. Why? Because, oh, their loans

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have 0%. you're always going to have to charge

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more on the rent than they will. You will never

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get ahead. They might even own, you know, they

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might even, in the case of some towns, they might

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even give the town a bunch of money so they get

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special privileges for their land so they don't

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have to pay taxes or doing other stuff. So I've

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seen it happen. It's very unfortunate, but I

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do think it is part of the long -term plan is

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if Americans can't own their own land, you cannot

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retire. You can't. There is no future. You do

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not have a leverageable asset. Just think about

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any car that you buy now. They all depreciate

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in value. Everything's a depreciating asset.

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The minute you drive off the lot, you lose 15%.

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Yeah. And for most Americans, that's going to

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become their big purchase. It's like I've been

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saying this for a while. Do you know in Sweden,

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less than half of anybody in Sweden owns their

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own house? Wow. Yes. The majority rent. Now,

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I'm not saying that is a bad thing, but what

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I'm saying is in that country, they also de -incentivize

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having cars. They have a 100 % tax on vehicles.

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100 % tax? Last time I looked, it was about 100

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% tax. So the idea for them is you don't need

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a car. We have public transport. But if you want

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it, you've got to pay extra. They do not incentivize

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you owning a home. But if you want it, you're

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going to have to pony up and pay extra. I think

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it's going to be the case of they're going to

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look at the idea of homeownership as a luxury.

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They're going to look at the idea of you owning

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your own space, even commercially, if you're

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a restaurant or any other business, that's a

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luxury. That's not necessarily a right or not

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necessarily something that should be afforded

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to you. So it's going to be crazy because how

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do you start a business? Most people, what do

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they do? They leverage their house as an asset.

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If you can't leverage a house. You can't start

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a business, and especially with the rules and

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regulations, everything is stacked against you

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if you cannot gain equity in a house. You can't

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do anything. That's insane. So that's just my

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little few cents. But yes, so on to smart cities,

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or really the future of cities. Um, there have

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been a lot of cases or a lot of, um, not cases,

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I would say, but there've been a lot of discussions

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about politicians, um, trying to make plans for

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future cities, smart cities, the idea of establishing

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it from the ground up to try and make it as you're

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talking about more efficient, um, to be way less

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wasteful, you know, to which, okay. Without sounding

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like a tree hugger, that is a smart thing to

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do. Oh, no, I agree. A hundred percent min max

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and maximize. Your use of resources in both planning,

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designing, building, constructing, and use of

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space. That's the smartest way to go about it.

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The most cost -effective way to go about it.

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Absolutely. That's what they should do for, I

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think, almost any living space, to be honest

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with you. Because of the premium that we have

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for real estate and for space, we really should

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be focusing on efficiency for a while. Especially

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when you have a lot of people, I think, now with

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the housing market. These houses are going to

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become generational houses. I think we're going

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to be going a lot of the way kind of like Europe

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and Japan where you see several generations living

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in the same house for extended periods of time.

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So we need to start thinking about, hey, maybe

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these houses are going to be made to last several

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hundred years. Maybe they need to be built to

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be serviced, to be repaired. Not just a house

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that you throw up and then 50 years down the

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road when it looks like a piece of shit, you

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bulldoze it and rebuild it. You know, you can

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no longer just buy a house in a Sears catalog.

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So... Especially all the regulations everything

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else you have to go through and really the amount

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of knowledge you have to have nowadays It's not

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like how it used to be where you just kind of

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you know assemble a house together hook up some

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plumbing Plugging the electrical and call it

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a day now. It is way way way more complex and

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skilled so Because of that we should be looking

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to extend the life the useful life of these houses,

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and we're not That's the other problem is we

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still in America. It's weird. We have really

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high standards for some stuff But then, like,

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our foundations are shit. Our roofs are crap.

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They're leaking everywhere. And they're the most

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important parts of the fucking house. The literal

00:22:45.650 --> 00:22:49.410
top and bottom that the house depends on. Yep.

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You know what's crazy? I like in England, they

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still use slate. And you know what's crazy? Slate

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is awesome. Some of the places warranty them

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for like 50 years. Some places even 100. In America.

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You try to hire a roofing company now, they're

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like out of five years, maybe 10. And half the

00:23:11.210 --> 00:23:12.349
people working on it don't know what the fuck

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they're doing anyway. I hate to say that, but

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like. No, well, that goes back to the whole education

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episode. And what's nuts is it seems like other

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countries have found ways of using natural resources.

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to make their homes not only well insulated,

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but also waterproof. Like, have you ever seen

00:23:32.819 --> 00:23:36.980
the thatched homes in England? Dude, they just

00:23:36.980 --> 00:23:39.220
have to redo them every 20, 30 years. But the

00:23:39.220 --> 00:23:43.660
stuff grows. They're using plants to do the roof

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of the house, and it works. Like, how the hell?

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We have all this land to grow, all the food and

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crops and everything else, and we can't just,

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like, do that? Are you kidding me? No. It's insane.

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Yeah. Or at least have it as an option. I guess

00:24:01.059 --> 00:24:04.059
that's my big thing. You know, we have a lot

00:24:04.059 --> 00:24:08.500
of new construction techniques that have been

00:24:08.500 --> 00:24:12.500
proven in the field. They need to be more available.

00:24:13.619 --> 00:24:17.220
Things like 3D printing of houses. I really want

00:24:17.220 --> 00:24:19.660
to see that become more available. Even if it's

00:24:19.660 --> 00:24:23.619
not a fully 3D printed house. Do parts of the

00:24:23.619 --> 00:24:27.589
interior as a 3D printed. portion and then do

00:24:27.589 --> 00:24:31.670
the exterior as or vice versa 3d print the exterior

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and build the interior normal i mean start combining

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this shit there's got to be a way that you can

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use 3d printing in a way in which you can put

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all the channels all the raceways all the everything

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for all of your electrical and plumbing they

00:24:45.450 --> 00:24:48.670
do that have it so but that's not like mainstream

00:24:48.670 --> 00:24:50.170
that should be something that's already like

00:24:50.170 --> 00:24:53.299
like literally pre -done So everything you do

00:24:53.299 --> 00:24:55.400
has its own little block, its own little area.

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That way it's easy to service it. It's easy to

00:24:58.160 --> 00:24:59.980
get to it. You also know where it is. You just

00:24:59.980 --> 00:25:04.059
follow. Hey, look, the blue, you know, 3D printed

00:25:04.059 --> 00:25:08.559
block holds the plumbing line in it for the main

00:25:08.559 --> 00:25:10.380
water line. So all you do is follow that and

00:25:10.380 --> 00:25:11.759
that's where that goes. And hey, look, here's

00:25:11.759 --> 00:25:13.900
the main raceway for all the electrical for the

00:25:13.900 --> 00:25:16.079
second floor or first floor or whatever. And

00:25:16.079 --> 00:25:18.319
you look inside and all the wires have their

00:25:18.319 --> 00:25:20.519
own neat little notch and they're all color coded

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and it's labeled and everything. If you pre -make

00:25:23.000 --> 00:25:25.440
this stuff, it makes it so it's really simple

00:25:25.440 --> 00:25:27.559
because our biggest problem in America is servicing

00:25:27.559 --> 00:25:31.259
or repairing homes. They say it's standardized,

00:25:31.359 --> 00:25:34.440
but let's be real. Every house is their own.

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Granted, I'm going to be biased on this topic

00:25:36.759 --> 00:25:39.759
because I have one of the worst situations I

00:25:39.759 --> 00:25:42.859
have to deal with with this house. But that being

00:25:42.859 --> 00:25:46.460
said, how have we not figured out how to do this

00:25:46.460 --> 00:25:49.420
more efficiently by now? This should be at least

00:25:49.420 --> 00:25:51.900
something that's relatively simple. And I agree

00:25:51.900 --> 00:25:53.460
with you. If you can do a full 3D printed house

00:25:53.460 --> 00:25:56.079
or just even the room design, that'd be awesome.

00:25:56.480 --> 00:25:57.700
Because you already know. You have the little

00:25:57.700 --> 00:26:00.759
pop -out thing. So you put the electrical receptacles

00:26:00.759 --> 00:26:03.000
here and there. You have the molding there. You

00:26:03.000 --> 00:26:05.039
have this and that. You can even have built -in

00:26:05.039 --> 00:26:06.839
storage and walls and everything. You just pop

00:26:06.839 --> 00:26:09.680
out or move. It makes it so those tolerances

00:26:09.680 --> 00:26:14.000
can be very simple. Two things. I'm just going

00:26:14.000 --> 00:26:16.819
to kind of like brain shit this out. Boxable.

00:26:17.410 --> 00:26:22.430
and yes the dnd snap together tiles why not do

00:26:22.430 --> 00:26:25.490
something like that where you've got whole rooms

00:26:25.490 --> 00:26:29.450
that are just like pre -done that are just ordered

00:26:29.450 --> 00:26:33.369
as the house is designed like okay i want these

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modules with these two modules and this other

00:26:35.849 --> 00:26:38.569
giant module and that's what's ordered and brought

00:26:38.569 --> 00:26:41.390
to site and put together everything is pre -made

00:26:41.390 --> 00:26:43.789
at the factory because boxable makes those whole

00:26:43.789 --> 00:26:46.789
houses and that's what's deployed And then it's

00:26:46.789 --> 00:26:50.950
just assembled on site. It'd be more like a mobile

00:26:50.950 --> 00:26:54.349
home. It'd be more like a prebuilt home that's

00:26:54.349 --> 00:26:56.890
just, you know, erected and raised on the site.

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And then you put a roof on it on a foundation.

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We have the fucking technology to do that shit.

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Why are we not? Oh, let me guess. Codes and money.

00:27:06.349 --> 00:27:08.769
Because someone can't design the permit process

00:27:08.769 --> 00:27:11.569
to be profitable. And that's that's one of my

00:27:11.569 --> 00:27:14.269
biggest issues, I think, is. One, the permitting

00:27:14.269 --> 00:27:16.150
process is different in almost every county,

00:27:16.210 --> 00:27:19.269
almost every town, every city. They have to stick

00:27:19.269 --> 00:27:22.029
their nose in it for whatever reason. Number

00:27:22.029 --> 00:27:26.829
two, there needs to be a focus on the ease of

00:27:26.829 --> 00:27:29.910
maintenance and the ease of repair. Because one

00:27:29.910 --> 00:27:31.210
of the other problems we see is a lot of the

00:27:31.210 --> 00:27:33.650
stuff in our houses are built to basically, it's

00:27:33.650 --> 00:27:35.990
for the life cycle of whatever it is, and then

00:27:35.990 --> 00:27:38.829
it's done. And the problem is, for a lot of things,

00:27:38.930 --> 00:27:41.109
you have to rip up entire floors to redo plumbing,

00:27:41.349 --> 00:27:43.490
to rip out all the walls to redo electrical,

00:27:43.769 --> 00:27:45.670
or God forbid there's an insulation problem you

00:27:45.670 --> 00:27:48.609
have to redo. There's got to be a way. And I

00:27:48.609 --> 00:27:50.690
do feel like with 3D printing technology, that

00:27:50.690 --> 00:27:53.369
is one of the options, as well as being able

00:27:53.369 --> 00:27:57.869
to prefab and premake things at a point to where

00:27:57.869 --> 00:28:00.710
it should just be able to be plug and play, or

00:28:00.710 --> 00:28:02.470
at least that as an option. And I know there's

00:28:02.470 --> 00:28:03.950
a couple of companies like Boxable you mentioned.

00:28:03.990 --> 00:28:05.769
There's a few other ones as well. That are kind

00:28:05.769 --> 00:28:07.650
of mobile home kind of companies that they do

00:28:07.650 --> 00:28:10.150
make, you know, things that kind of snap together.

00:28:12.069 --> 00:28:14.450
But it's the issue of the engineers not making

00:28:14.450 --> 00:28:18.250
stuff accessible. Like, I don't understand. And

00:28:18.250 --> 00:28:19.869
this is something that I actually spoke to a

00:28:19.869 --> 00:28:22.069
friend of mine who was an architect. He's no

00:28:22.069 --> 00:28:25.710
longer an architect. But about designing a house

00:28:25.710 --> 00:28:27.430
to where everything can be easily accessible.

00:28:27.609 --> 00:28:30.390
And it's not actually that crazy to do. Sure,

00:28:30.470 --> 00:28:31.769
you have to make a couple of considerations.

00:28:31.970 --> 00:28:34.579
Like, you have to sacrifice a room. for like

00:28:34.579 --> 00:28:36.380
an electrical closet and you have to run a chase

00:28:36.380 --> 00:28:38.599
way through certain areas in the plumbing a certain

00:28:38.599 --> 00:28:41.579
way but if you do it right all of a sudden you

00:28:41.579 --> 00:28:44.019
can design a house where everything is accessible

00:28:44.019 --> 00:28:47.220
and it makes it far safer because there's nothing

00:28:47.220 --> 00:28:49.279
that's hiding behind walls or something to where

00:28:49.279 --> 00:28:51.059
a mouse can get into something and a house catches

00:28:51.059 --> 00:28:53.700
fire i i have a buddy of mine he recently lost

00:28:53.700 --> 00:28:55.559
he had like a second like an investment property

00:28:55.559 --> 00:28:58.660
and he lost it due to an animal getting in the

00:28:58.660 --> 00:29:00.500
house and they weren't home and the house caught

00:29:00.500 --> 00:29:01.880
fire they caught it on camera and everything

00:29:02.990 --> 00:29:04.890
And it's because it was an old house that was

00:29:04.890 --> 00:29:07.470
built in the late 1890s. It's just there was

00:29:07.470 --> 00:29:12.170
nothing you could do. So I know we're kind of

00:29:12.170 --> 00:29:15.269
just throwing out general like, oh, you should

00:29:15.269 --> 00:29:19.630
just do this. But come on, it's got to be a solvable

00:29:19.630 --> 00:29:21.170
problem at this point, especially when it comes

00:29:21.170 --> 00:29:26.069
to we think about like like big sky rises and

00:29:26.069 --> 00:29:30.039
stuff like that with larger. residential buildings.

00:29:30.440 --> 00:29:33.619
There's no way you can't make that to something

00:29:33.619 --> 00:29:35.200
to where at least everything plugs, plug and

00:29:35.200 --> 00:29:38.920
play, easy peasy, all done. That way it's consistent.

00:29:39.240 --> 00:29:47.940
That way you know how it operates. A lot of it

00:29:47.940 --> 00:29:50.039
comes down to regulation, which of course it

00:29:50.039 --> 00:29:55.940
always does. Design, layout, forethought, pre

00:29:55.940 --> 00:29:59.849
-planning. I mean, again, it's 2025. We have

00:29:59.849 --> 00:30:03.130
the technology. Why are we not doing this? There's,

00:30:03.130 --> 00:30:06.630
there's really no good excuse as to why we're

00:30:06.630 --> 00:30:13.329
not outside of just, we lack the will. So a lot

00:30:13.329 --> 00:30:16.369
of it's profit based too. Yeah. The contractor

00:30:16.369 --> 00:30:18.190
can't make any profit and adding the stuff on,

00:30:18.250 --> 00:30:19.529
why would they do it? And that's the problem.

00:30:20.349 --> 00:30:27.630
Yeah. But aside from the, manufacturing of the

00:30:27.630 --> 00:30:31.109
buildings, we have to also think about the infrastructure

00:30:31.109 --> 00:30:34.710
of the roadways. So we could drop some of these

00:30:34.710 --> 00:30:39.069
onto existing roadways, putting in new roadways,

00:30:39.190 --> 00:30:43.349
but not just the roads, but the sewer systems

00:30:43.349 --> 00:30:46.630
too. All the waste management, all the trash

00:30:46.630 --> 00:30:49.569
and stuff. I mean, yeah, in the future, like

00:30:49.569 --> 00:30:54.150
Futurama, everything is recycled. You know, food

00:30:54.150 --> 00:30:58.460
gets recycled. aluminum cans get recycled into

00:30:58.460 --> 00:31:00.359
robots and robots get recycled into aluminum

00:31:00.359 --> 00:31:03.319
cans that's that's the you know ultimate dream

00:31:03.319 --> 00:31:09.660
but uh that kind of reminds me of uh the the

00:31:09.660 --> 00:31:12.720
japanese invented the poop stakes you know do

00:31:12.720 --> 00:31:16.049
do we have to go down that line because I'm sorry.

00:31:16.150 --> 00:31:18.890
Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. The fuck

00:31:18.890 --> 00:31:20.710
are you talking about a poop steak? Hold on.

00:31:20.750 --> 00:31:22.910
You don't remember the Japanese poop steaks?

00:31:22.950 --> 00:31:24.970
No. You need to stop what you're doing right

00:31:24.970 --> 00:31:26.730
now and explain this to me because I'm very concerned.

00:31:27.089 --> 00:31:29.549
What the fuck do you mean is a poop steak? Yeah.

00:31:29.630 --> 00:31:34.089
The Japanese made an actual steak out of poop.

00:31:35.430 --> 00:31:40.170
Why? Because they could. Again, this is the Ian

00:31:40.170 --> 00:31:42.690
Malcolm philosophy. They were too busy trying

00:31:42.690 --> 00:31:44.890
to figure out if they could. They never stopped

00:31:44.890 --> 00:31:48.549
to think whether or not they should. Japan has

00:31:48.549 --> 00:31:52.569
been hit and faced with issues pertaining to

00:31:52.569 --> 00:31:55.329
food and food production for years because of

00:31:55.329 --> 00:31:57.789
their population. But who the fuck are Japan?

00:31:58.230 --> 00:32:00.289
I know the Japanese are into some weird shit.

00:32:00.589 --> 00:32:03.549
Yes, they are. But who the hell in Japan has

00:32:03.549 --> 00:32:05.730
gone to... Yes, has gone to a restaurant going...

00:32:06.200 --> 00:32:11.299
I'd like a poop steak. Nobody. Nobody. No. If

00:32:11.299 --> 00:32:12.819
they have, they should be ashamed of themselves.

00:32:13.000 --> 00:32:17.339
No. I will kink shame. They took human waste,

00:32:17.640 --> 00:32:21.619
filtered it, cleaned it, reconstituted it, and

00:32:21.619 --> 00:32:26.960
more or less grew it into a steak type product.

00:32:29.779 --> 00:32:33.500
I can and will link the articles. I really hope

00:32:33.500 --> 00:32:40.130
you don't. But, you know, that kind of calls

00:32:40.130 --> 00:32:44.450
into memory. It's a situation where if they actually

00:32:44.450 --> 00:32:48.730
do the megacity concept, 3D printed food, lab

00:32:48.730 --> 00:32:58.250
-grown food, remember the cow from Upload. It's

00:32:58.250 --> 00:33:02.089
lab -grown food. I'm not against if it nutritionally

00:33:02.089 --> 00:33:07.940
makes sense. Yes. Also texturally. Yeah. Again,

00:33:08.279 --> 00:33:11.400
there are some things I think that you can make

00:33:11.400 --> 00:33:15.839
a viable and acceptable substitute. However,

00:33:15.980 --> 00:33:21.559
it's got to actually not have the downsides of,

00:33:21.619 --> 00:33:24.259
I don't know, fucking killing you over time.

00:33:24.500 --> 00:33:28.819
It seems like anything artificial. That has come

00:33:28.819 --> 00:33:32.460
out of the lab after a while. I mean, maybe it's

00:33:32.460 --> 00:33:35.839
going to kill your market, you know? No, no,

00:33:35.880 --> 00:33:42.779
it's all a conspiracy. No, no. So that that that's

00:33:42.779 --> 00:33:45.779
one of my I guess it's my concern is like if

00:33:45.779 --> 00:33:48.099
there comes a day where we can 3D print literally

00:33:48.099 --> 00:33:51.900
using like, you know, a protein molecule type

00:33:51.900 --> 00:33:53.859
of thing, you could build it basically like a

00:33:53.859 --> 00:33:57.079
replicator from Star Trek. That's a different

00:33:57.079 --> 00:34:01.940
story. But, man, lab -grown meat, for some reason,

00:34:01.960 --> 00:34:04.440
I feel like there's no way you're going to get

00:34:04.440 --> 00:34:06.119
the nutrients that we need in something like

00:34:06.119 --> 00:34:09.360
that. There's no way. Well, so they are experimenting

00:34:09.360 --> 00:34:12.940
with lab -grown meat that's essentially just

00:34:12.940 --> 00:34:19.480
cultured tissue from donor tissue where the tissue

00:34:19.480 --> 00:34:22.800
is just grown on a scaffold. And it propagates.

00:34:22.800 --> 00:34:24.860
And that's all that it does. It's the tissue

00:34:24.860 --> 00:34:27.079
that grows just like it would in the body. It

00:34:27.079 --> 00:34:29.119
just propagates on a scaffold type structure.

00:34:29.539 --> 00:34:31.940
It grows the exact same way that it would in

00:34:31.940 --> 00:34:34.980
the body, just in a lap. It's not in a body.

00:34:35.260 --> 00:34:38.300
It's in a contraption that mimics the body's

00:34:38.300 --> 00:34:44.019
conditions. So I'm kind of on the fence about

00:34:44.019 --> 00:34:46.539
it because I don't trust some of this stuff.

00:34:48.109 --> 00:34:51.010
Like, would I try it? Yes. I'd absolutely try

00:34:51.010 --> 00:34:55.250
it. Would I replace meat with it? No. But, like,

00:34:55.309 --> 00:34:56.969
I'd try it. I still might eat a human before

00:34:56.969 --> 00:34:58.610
I do some of the slime -grown shit. I don't know.

00:35:00.469 --> 00:35:02.750
You're, like, three for three with pro -cannibalism.

00:35:02.789 --> 00:35:09.949
I'd be able to consign with you. Don't shame.

00:35:12.480 --> 00:35:14.300
I really feel like you'd be the first guy on

00:35:14.300 --> 00:35:16.300
the ship. That's like, the ship's going down.

00:35:16.500 --> 00:35:20.179
Oh, no. And you have a knife and a fork in each

00:35:20.179 --> 00:35:22.099
hand. Everyone's like, dude, we're in the Titanic.

00:35:22.280 --> 00:35:24.199
We've got a pinhole. You're like, oh, no. Whatever

00:35:24.199 --> 00:35:26.480
will I do? As you're like half deep into a thigh.

00:35:26.639 --> 00:35:29.739
Like, oh, no. Just one at a time. One excuse.

00:35:30.000 --> 00:35:32.599
You know. Oh, no. Meat's back on the menu, boys.

00:35:34.659 --> 00:35:39.920
Jesus Christ. But. But no, like some of the lab

00:35:39.920 --> 00:35:41.500
-grown stuff, I'd be okay with trying, but just,

00:35:41.599 --> 00:35:43.860
I think maybe it's because of all the stuff medically

00:35:43.860 --> 00:35:46.719
lately, but I would want longer time periods

00:35:46.719 --> 00:35:48.420
to study and figure out what's going on with

00:35:48.420 --> 00:35:51.360
this before we just hop on the train of, yep,

00:35:51.480 --> 00:35:52.920
we'll switch everything to lab -grown, because

00:35:52.920 --> 00:35:56.039
you know, I think we all know here, that the

00:35:56.039 --> 00:35:57.619
minute the government's like, oh, we can just

00:35:57.619 --> 00:35:59.659
grow our meat, well, we're just going to do it.

00:35:59.719 --> 00:36:03.579
By the way, I want to put in a little asterisk

00:36:03.579 --> 00:36:07.780
here. There's a guy. I'm not going to say his

00:36:07.780 --> 00:36:09.860
actual name, but it sounds an awful lot like

00:36:09.860 --> 00:36:13.559
Gil Bates, who is heavily invested into lab -grown

00:36:13.559 --> 00:36:16.619
meat. And he also bought up a ton of farmland.

00:36:17.059 --> 00:36:20.679
Yeah, that too. It's almost like he wants the

00:36:20.679 --> 00:36:22.820
real meat for the elites and us to have the lab

00:36:22.820 --> 00:36:25.820
-grown meat. He wants us to eat bugs. And I've

00:36:25.820 --> 00:36:28.039
already flat said, I will not eat bugs. I will

00:36:28.039 --> 00:36:30.679
eat a human before I eat bugs. So there's four

00:36:30.679 --> 00:36:33.519
for four. Or just to recount it for one of the

00:36:33.519 --> 00:36:39.090
threes. Fair enough. Back on the transportation.

00:36:39.710 --> 00:36:42.309
Go ahead. But this is all tied into that push

00:36:42.309 --> 00:36:44.829
for efficiency. Because if you could make lab

00:36:44.829 --> 00:36:46.210
-grown meat and all this other stuff, you wouldn't

00:36:46.210 --> 00:36:47.849
need farmland for cities. They'd be able to grow

00:36:47.849 --> 00:36:50.190
that in the city. Which I think for a lot of

00:36:50.190 --> 00:36:52.389
reasons that would actually help. If you were

00:36:52.389 --> 00:36:54.250
able to, in cities, be able to grow your own

00:36:54.250 --> 00:36:56.289
meat with the lab -grown stuff, that'd make it

00:36:56.289 --> 00:36:58.690
less dependent on urban areas. Sorry, rural areas.

00:37:01.130 --> 00:37:03.570
I think the lab -grown meat needs to be pushed

00:37:03.570 --> 00:37:08.349
harder for the space programs, too. Or hear me

00:37:08.349 --> 00:37:11.210
out. Let California ban real meat. Let them test

00:37:11.210 --> 00:37:13.349
it out, and we'll see how they are in 10 or 15

00:37:13.349 --> 00:37:17.769
years. Well, if California gets their way, they're

00:37:17.769 --> 00:37:20.889
going to leave the country anyways. So that's

00:37:20.889 --> 00:37:22.949
a discussion for another podcast episode. You

00:37:22.949 --> 00:37:25.630
know what? All I can say is I believe Sun Tzu

00:37:25.630 --> 00:37:27.230
said don't interrupt your enemy when they're

00:37:27.230 --> 00:37:31.059
making a mistake. So I will let them absolutely

00:37:31.059 --> 00:37:37.480
set you off to pasture. We're good. The last

00:37:37.480 --> 00:37:39.739
thing I'll say on that is I think it should just

00:37:39.739 --> 00:37:43.260
be SoCal. Like the southern half of California.

00:37:43.599 --> 00:37:47.659
Because the northern half is fine. They're all

00:37:47.659 --> 00:37:51.380
normal people. Let them vote by county. Yeah.

00:37:51.519 --> 00:37:54.320
It's the southern half that is all psychotic

00:37:54.320 --> 00:37:59.139
and out of their minds. But anyways, back on

00:37:59.139 --> 00:38:04.340
to the transportation stuff. Once you have a

00:38:04.340 --> 00:38:07.480
new city laid out, if you've ever played anything

00:38:07.480 --> 00:38:11.280
like SimCity or Cities Skylines, you know transportation

00:38:11.280 --> 00:38:16.199
is a big issue. You're not going to have private

00:38:16.199 --> 00:38:18.719
cars going everywhere. You're going to have efficient

00:38:18.719 --> 00:38:23.559
bus lines and e -bikes and robo -taxis going

00:38:23.559 --> 00:38:26.880
everywhere. So that's going to be one nicety

00:38:26.880 --> 00:38:29.719
is it's all going to be on just like loops. You

00:38:29.719 --> 00:38:33.019
could possibly even have SkyTrams, hover taxis,

00:38:33.039 --> 00:38:35.920
drone transports, which those are actually coming

00:38:35.920 --> 00:38:39.559
out now. So that's another thing that could be

00:38:39.559 --> 00:38:42.320
taken into consideration is the lack of roads

00:38:42.320 --> 00:38:46.679
that would be needed thanks to the air transport

00:38:46.679 --> 00:38:51.349
industries that are coming online. Well, it's

00:38:51.349 --> 00:38:53.409
something that if designed correctly, the idea

00:38:53.409 --> 00:38:55.929
is that you would be able to take public transport

00:38:55.929 --> 00:38:58.570
and be able to get somewhere efficiently, but

00:38:58.570 --> 00:39:02.690
also cost efficiently as well. That way, at least

00:39:02.690 --> 00:39:04.889
a lot of taxes would cover public transport.

00:39:05.130 --> 00:39:09.369
I know, I think it was either in Boston, I believe,

00:39:09.489 --> 00:39:12.469
that they were going to make public transport

00:39:12.469 --> 00:39:15.469
either free for a period of time or even possibly

00:39:15.469 --> 00:39:18.380
going forward in the future. I don't know if

00:39:18.380 --> 00:39:20.239
that's going to be a permanent thing because

00:39:20.239 --> 00:39:22.980
the mayor of Boston, Michelle Wu, was kind of

00:39:22.980 --> 00:39:24.960
a little all over the place. So we'll see how

00:39:24.960 --> 00:39:26.239
that goes. But I know there's several places

00:39:26.239 --> 00:39:28.860
around here. Yeah, I know. We'll save that for

00:39:28.860 --> 00:39:31.199
another episode. But I know there's several places

00:39:31.199 --> 00:39:33.019
around Massachusetts where they are now basically

00:39:33.019 --> 00:39:36.019
doing free public transport to try to make that

00:39:36.019 --> 00:39:38.000
work. That's a good thing because a lot of people

00:39:38.000 --> 00:39:41.059
rely on that. Yeah. And also for a lot of people,

00:39:41.099 --> 00:39:43.039
like if you're already making minimum wage at

00:39:43.039 --> 00:39:44.780
a job in a city where you can't afford shit.

00:39:45.340 --> 00:39:47.320
Having to pay two or three bucks every fucking

00:39:47.320 --> 00:39:50.099
bus ride is ridiculous after a while. It adds

00:39:50.099 --> 00:39:53.880
up quick. That's several dollars a day and a

00:39:53.880 --> 00:39:55.860
lot of dollars a week and a lot more dollars

00:39:55.860 --> 00:39:58.460
a month. So, yeah, that that adds up and that's

00:39:58.460 --> 00:39:59.739
going to help out a lot of people that need it.

00:40:02.460 --> 00:40:04.239
But if you design these cities in a way where,

00:40:04.280 --> 00:40:05.340
you know, like you're talking about where you

00:40:05.340 --> 00:40:08.199
can use bikes, you can walk, use public transport

00:40:08.199 --> 00:40:11.809
and with the mixed use buildings. You could theoretically,

00:40:11.909 --> 00:40:14.489
I know one of the other city designs that we

00:40:14.489 --> 00:40:15.969
were talking about was the idea of the 15 minute

00:40:15.969 --> 00:40:19.510
city. The idea was that you can get to anything

00:40:19.510 --> 00:40:22.309
you need within like 10 or 15 minutes. You could

00:40:22.309 --> 00:40:25.489
walk to any grocery store, any sort of outlet

00:40:25.489 --> 00:40:28.610
for commercial centers, transportation hubs,

00:40:28.829 --> 00:40:30.769
industry hubs, as well as obviously a residential

00:40:30.769 --> 00:40:33.769
center. And everything's within a 15 minute equidistant

00:40:33.769 --> 00:40:36.809
kind of walk with these multi -use buildings.

00:40:37.050 --> 00:40:38.769
And I do feel like that's something where that's

00:40:38.769 --> 00:40:42.679
probably a good. Because I think everybody, honestly,

00:40:42.699 --> 00:40:44.280
a lot of Americans would be way healthier if

00:40:44.280 --> 00:40:46.559
we did have a 15 -minute walk to work. Yeah.

00:40:46.599 --> 00:40:48.059
Because we don't walk. We're Americans. They

00:40:48.059 --> 00:40:52.420
essentially have to take the perfect, air quote,

00:40:52.500 --> 00:40:56.019
layout, copy and paste it just right down the

00:40:56.019 --> 00:40:59.280
line. Yes. Because that's all that you can do.

00:40:59.380 --> 00:41:02.920
It has to be, this is the perfect layout. Do

00:41:02.920 --> 00:41:05.880
not change it. Copy and paste, copy and paste,

00:41:05.940 --> 00:41:08.300
copy and paste. That's the only way it's going

00:41:08.300 --> 00:41:13.650
to work. And that way, I think for most people,

00:41:13.750 --> 00:41:16.429
there's a lot of people that would work somewhere

00:41:16.429 --> 00:41:19.369
local, even if they made a little less, just

00:41:19.369 --> 00:41:21.369
to be able to walk 10 or 15 minutes to work and

00:41:21.369 --> 00:41:23.409
then back. Especially with the younger generations

00:41:23.409 --> 00:41:27.389
coming up. They've got that mindset where they're

00:41:27.389 --> 00:41:31.389
going to be coming out of school, trying to start

00:41:31.389 --> 00:41:34.369
their lives. They don't have anything of their

00:41:34.369 --> 00:41:38.690
own. They don't have that. They're potted plants.

00:41:39.289 --> 00:41:42.429
They can be transported more easily and they

00:41:42.429 --> 00:41:44.389
can just kind of be put into that environment

00:41:44.389 --> 00:41:50.010
to grow and thrive easier than established folks

00:41:50.010 --> 00:41:52.550
like us. And it also makes it easier for them

00:41:52.550 --> 00:41:53.929
to get a start because then they don't have to

00:41:53.929 --> 00:41:55.530
buy these other things and have to afford. They

00:41:55.530 --> 00:41:57.869
don't have the overhead. Yeah, that's that's

00:41:57.869 --> 00:41:59.329
one of the bigger problems you have is nowadays

00:41:59.329 --> 00:42:01.070
with a lot of cities. You have that weird problem

00:42:01.070 --> 00:42:03.639
of. You almost have to have a vehicle, but you

00:42:03.639 --> 00:42:05.159
can't really afford to have a vehicle. You can't

00:42:05.159 --> 00:42:07.000
afford to park it anywhere. You have to pay for

00:42:07.000 --> 00:42:08.239
the extra parking. Because you're in a city,

00:42:08.280 --> 00:42:10.360
your insurance is much higher. So it's this weird

00:42:10.360 --> 00:42:11.980
thing where, like, wow, I'm just losing $1 ,000

00:42:11.980 --> 00:42:13.860
a month just to have a vehicle that I use, like,

00:42:13.880 --> 00:42:16.420
twice a month. It doesn't make any sense. Whereas

00:42:16.420 --> 00:42:19.820
for a city design like that, you could get by

00:42:19.820 --> 00:42:22.179
perfectly fine and not have a vehicle. And because

00:42:22.179 --> 00:42:24.760
so few people would be driving, public transport

00:42:24.760 --> 00:42:27.719
would work. And if you want to have a car, there'd

00:42:27.719 --> 00:42:31.259
be spots available. It'd be okay to drive. Like,

00:42:31.259 --> 00:42:33.659
I thought it was amazing. My girlfriend and I

00:42:33.659 --> 00:42:37.079
went up to Portland, up to Maine, over the 4th,

00:42:37.099 --> 00:42:40.179
and it's a small city. Give you an idea, it's

00:42:40.179 --> 00:42:42.019
a 15 -minute drive from one side to the other,

00:42:42.099 --> 00:42:44.480
like 15, 20 minutes. It's quick. It's small.

00:42:44.840 --> 00:42:46.980
But, dude, being in a city where, like, there's

00:42:46.980 --> 00:42:50.519
an abundant amount of space, we drove in and

00:42:50.519 --> 00:42:55.619
out during the 4th of July during the highest

00:42:55.619 --> 00:42:57.340
traffic points, and it was, like, maybe 10 minutes

00:42:57.340 --> 00:43:00.610
of traffic. When it wasn't... During the 4th

00:43:00.610 --> 00:43:03.230
of July, there was no traffic. You can get anywhere.

00:43:03.789 --> 00:43:06.269
I cannot believe, maybe it's because I've been

00:43:06.269 --> 00:43:07.909
near Boston all my life and New York City and

00:43:07.909 --> 00:43:10.409
stuff. The idea of just wanting to go into a

00:43:10.409 --> 00:43:13.269
city and just getting there is amazing. Because

00:43:13.269 --> 00:43:15.809
then you see the idea of you have to plan. You

00:43:15.809 --> 00:43:17.929
don't understand. If you try to go into Boston

00:43:17.929 --> 00:43:19.570
at the wrong time, it could be a half hour, it

00:43:19.570 --> 00:43:22.650
could be three. Oh, gross. If you don't leave

00:43:22.650 --> 00:43:24.190
Boston by one o 'clock, you're not getting home

00:43:24.190 --> 00:43:26.599
until four. Like, I'm sorry, you're just fucked.

00:43:26.739 --> 00:43:29.079
Like, there's no way around it. God forbid there's

00:43:29.079 --> 00:43:31.260
an accident, there's no way around. Whereas with

00:43:31.260 --> 00:43:33.420
a city like that, it was like, what do you mean

00:43:33.420 --> 00:43:35.659
I can just, like, get in my car and go? And you

00:43:35.659 --> 00:43:37.400
can go somewhere, and you can find a parking

00:43:37.400 --> 00:43:41.579
spot. You can park. And there's so many cities

00:43:41.579 --> 00:43:43.179
where you just can't. It's like, ah, congratulations,

00:43:43.440 --> 00:43:47.980
good luck, go fuck yourself. Yeah, that's insane.

00:43:51.309 --> 00:43:53.530
I don't recommend people to go to Boston. It's

00:43:53.530 --> 00:43:56.250
fun to visit, but don't move there. Yeah. God,

00:43:56.389 --> 00:44:00.349
why would you? Trust me. Trust me. Nobody in

00:44:00.349 --> 00:44:01.949
Boston's happy. I will tell you that as someone

00:44:01.949 --> 00:44:04.690
that's been there. No. No. Everyone's unhappy.

00:44:05.570 --> 00:44:07.869
Yeah. But it's because it's the opposite of an

00:44:07.869 --> 00:44:13.369
efficient city. Yeah. One other point of efficiency.

00:44:14.170 --> 00:44:18.570
We were talking about the whole food thing. You

00:44:18.570 --> 00:44:21.989
can promote. urban agriculture community gardens

00:44:21.989 --> 00:44:26.449
like i said the the gardens on the the roof of

00:44:26.449 --> 00:44:29.650
the building itself we mentioned the 3d printed

00:44:29.650 --> 00:44:34.409
food the lab grown food but you can also encourage

00:44:34.409 --> 00:44:37.369
the one thing i would have the most trouble with

00:44:37.369 --> 00:44:41.929
the sustainable diet but you know that brings

00:44:41.929 --> 00:44:45.349
us back to the soil and green type of thing so

00:44:45.349 --> 00:44:48.789
you know They should definitely incentivize with

00:44:48.789 --> 00:44:52.230
all the wasted space in cities to have greenhouses

00:44:52.230 --> 00:44:53.949
on the top of every building because why not?

00:44:54.090 --> 00:44:55.630
And if you already have the solar panels on top

00:44:55.630 --> 00:44:57.710
of there anyway, you can help deal with some

00:44:57.710 --> 00:45:00.469
of the energy inefficiencies as well as you have

00:45:00.469 --> 00:45:02.710
that wasted space. Like if you go into any of

00:45:02.710 --> 00:45:04.389
these major cities, every single one of those

00:45:04.389 --> 00:45:07.909
skyscrapers on top of it has nothing. Well, we've

00:45:07.909 --> 00:45:13.710
also now got clear solar panels. Yeah. So windows

00:45:13.710 --> 00:45:16.550
should be getting replaced. You know, that's

00:45:16.550 --> 00:45:18.650
actually the biggest thermal loss and the biggest

00:45:18.650 --> 00:45:22.389
issue with modern cities is the fact that we

00:45:22.389 --> 00:45:24.969
made everything out of glass, which is not that

00:45:24.969 --> 00:45:27.309
great thermally and the buildings heat up and

00:45:27.309 --> 00:45:30.230
they do not keep cool. So therefore we spend

00:45:30.230 --> 00:45:32.869
a shit ton of money on air conditioning. Something

00:45:32.869 --> 00:45:38.150
like 40 % of our electric use is on HVAC. And

00:45:38.150 --> 00:45:40.030
then when you add in like drying clothes, it's

00:45:40.030 --> 00:45:43.900
like 60%. Yeah. And then also, all those buildings

00:45:43.900 --> 00:45:45.300
leave their lights on every night. I'll never

00:45:45.300 --> 00:45:50.559
understand that. Because, you know, safety. Yeah,

00:45:51.940 --> 00:45:56.980
I think it's insane. It's so wasteful. Yeah.

00:45:57.480 --> 00:46:01.079
Yeah. We're a wasteful species, but. Well, you're

00:46:01.079 --> 00:46:06.420
not wrong. Yeah. So there's already a lot of

00:46:06.420 --> 00:46:09.059
data that backs up a lot of these ideas and plans.

00:46:09.840 --> 00:46:12.699
A lot of different countries are trying to implement

00:46:12.699 --> 00:46:17.099
micro experiments to kind of get this off the

00:46:17.099 --> 00:46:22.179
ground. But like we said, private ownership is

00:46:22.179 --> 00:46:24.179
one of the bigger things that's kind of impeding

00:46:24.179 --> 00:46:28.300
things because we are a country that is focused

00:46:28.300 --> 00:46:32.099
and obsessed with private ownership. Giving those

00:46:32.099 --> 00:46:35.820
reins away is a very difficult concept for the

00:46:35.820 --> 00:46:37.719
majority of us to get to just be comfortable

00:46:37.719 --> 00:46:43.269
with. trying to conduct the business of a whole

00:46:43.269 --> 00:46:49.590
city with nobody except the government or some

00:46:49.590 --> 00:46:55.309
overarching entity owning everything there would

00:46:55.309 --> 00:47:01.030
be a very alien concept for the majority of Americans

00:47:01.030 --> 00:47:08.599
to acquiesce to. I used a big word, Gibbs. So

00:47:08.599 --> 00:47:13.699
trying to figure it in as what's called a CLT,

00:47:13.800 --> 00:47:19.219
the CLIT, Community Land Trust, a nonprofit organization

00:47:19.219 --> 00:47:23.079
would own the land in perpetuity while individuals

00:47:23.079 --> 00:47:25.500
and entities can own the buildings on that land

00:47:25.500 --> 00:47:29.159
through long -term leases. That way, it's not

00:47:29.159 --> 00:47:32.420
some big government entity that owns it. People

00:47:32.420 --> 00:47:35.059
can actually have a piece of ownership of what

00:47:35.059 --> 00:47:39.360
they're driving to achieve. And it separates

00:47:39.360 --> 00:47:42.639
the costs out of the land from the cost of the

00:47:42.639 --> 00:47:45.920
structure so that the businesses have a little

00:47:45.920 --> 00:47:48.760
bit less overhead and they can actually buy and

00:47:48.760 --> 00:47:50.539
sell the properties like normal, but it kind

00:47:50.539 --> 00:47:55.380
of caps the value of the property so that there's

00:47:55.380 --> 00:47:58.820
not this stepped inflation and we're right back

00:47:58.820 --> 00:48:02.059
to where we are now. Exactly. That's not a bad

00:48:02.059 --> 00:48:07.119
idea. Yeah. There's limited equity cooperatives.

00:48:07.769 --> 00:48:10.789
residents would purchase a share in a cooperative

00:48:10.789 --> 00:48:13.409
that owns the entire property, like an apartment

00:48:13.409 --> 00:48:16.969
building or the megacity manufactured home community

00:48:16.969 --> 00:48:19.530
like we talked about. The members would have

00:48:19.530 --> 00:48:23.130
the right to occupy the unit and vote on co -op

00:48:23.130 --> 00:48:26.730
matters. The resale prices of the shares would

00:48:26.730 --> 00:48:29.949
be typically what you would buy when you sell

00:48:29.949 --> 00:48:33.130
out. That way the units stay there and they're

00:48:33.130 --> 00:48:36.679
just kind of like the... benefit of having the

00:48:36.679 --> 00:48:39.980
shares so that's something else that can be done

00:48:39.980 --> 00:48:45.699
and that's already on paper um the leasehold

00:48:45.699 --> 00:48:48.280
systems you can get around taxes with that too

00:48:48.280 --> 00:48:51.239
oh yeah because that's one of the big things

00:48:51.239 --> 00:48:53.420
that i kind of want to drive home in a few of

00:48:53.420 --> 00:48:55.440
these different models you're talking about is

00:48:55.440 --> 00:48:57.880
it's a way of owning something without actually

00:48:57.880 --> 00:49:01.179
owning it in terms of liability so because the

00:49:01.179 --> 00:49:05.440
original whether it be the co -op or the land

00:49:05.440 --> 00:49:08.260
trust model they still retain the ownership of

00:49:08.260 --> 00:49:09.699
it so theoretically you wouldn't have to pay

00:49:09.699 --> 00:49:11.480
a property tax granted you would have to pay

00:49:11.480 --> 00:49:13.840
for that in terms like the membership but because

00:49:13.840 --> 00:49:16.500
it's but it would be covered by that exactly

00:49:16.500 --> 00:49:19.579
but it would be way more efficient because you're

00:49:19.579 --> 00:49:22.500
splitting it up by that many people and as you

00:49:22.500 --> 00:49:24.420
know with property taxes the bigger the building

00:49:24.420 --> 00:49:26.920
and if you're doing like any sort of residential

00:49:26.920 --> 00:49:29.800
kind of thing it becomes less and less per person

00:49:29.800 --> 00:49:33.219
per that share so It becomes more efficient.

00:49:33.300 --> 00:49:34.880
So you could actually make a living situation

00:49:34.880 --> 00:49:36.840
where it's far more cost effective for people.

00:49:37.119 --> 00:49:39.880
And because they can vote, they could do things.

00:49:39.940 --> 00:49:42.760
They can make decisions and help contribute to

00:49:42.760 --> 00:49:44.960
that. Whereas for a lot of places, really, you

00:49:44.960 --> 00:49:47.079
rent it out and you have no fucking say. And

00:49:47.079 --> 00:49:48.559
I'm not saying you should, but at least with

00:49:48.559 --> 00:49:50.440
this, you have some skin in the game without

00:49:50.440 --> 00:49:54.199
having the tax liability. Yeah. Or the repair

00:49:54.199 --> 00:49:57.860
costs and whatnot. So, you know, which warranty

00:49:57.860 --> 00:50:00.710
programs and whatnot. Repair contracts could

00:50:00.710 --> 00:50:05.050
all be figured into that shit. There's leasehold

00:50:05.050 --> 00:50:08.230
systems, which are similar to CLTs, but potentially

00:50:08.230 --> 00:50:11.050
implemented on a broader scale where the government

00:50:11.050 --> 00:50:13.449
or a public entity would retain ownership of

00:50:13.449 --> 00:50:15.750
the land and lease it out for development and

00:50:15.750 --> 00:50:18.949
use. This would allow the public entity to control

00:50:18.949 --> 00:50:21.469
the land use, enforce sustainable building standards,

00:50:21.550 --> 00:50:24.889
and potentially capture land value increments

00:50:24.889 --> 00:50:28.889
for public benefit. That one is essentially,

00:50:29.619 --> 00:50:33.539
What is in play right now? I think it would allow

00:50:33.539 --> 00:50:38.219
the most access for the lowest cost, but would

00:50:38.219 --> 00:50:42.360
eventually, you know, 30 to 50 years out, we'd

00:50:42.360 --> 00:50:47.420
be right back to where we are now. Yeah. You've

00:50:47.420 --> 00:50:50.360
got the public private partnerships with restrictions,

00:50:50.539 --> 00:50:54.139
more or less the exact same thing, but you're

00:50:54.139 --> 00:50:56.539
able to kind of cap some of the things that can

00:50:56.539 --> 00:51:01.440
and cannot go in there. Land can be leased or

00:51:01.440 --> 00:51:05.219
sold to private developers. Building standards,

00:51:05.579 --> 00:51:07.519
affordability, the types of businesses allowed.

00:51:08.559 --> 00:51:12.699
I don't know that I would be okay with that.

00:51:13.980 --> 00:51:17.260
And then you've got the famous social housing

00:51:17.260 --> 00:51:22.480
models. This is a fun one. Cities can prioritize

00:51:22.480 --> 00:51:25.460
a large percentage of housing as social housing.

00:51:26.010 --> 00:51:28.929
owned and managed by public or nonprofit entities

00:51:28.929 --> 00:51:32.250
offered at affordable rates based on income.

00:51:32.829 --> 00:51:36.550
When has that ever fucking worked? It doesn't.

00:51:36.710 --> 00:51:41.170
Because eventually what ends up happening is

00:51:41.170 --> 00:51:44.550
because they're public owned, that land and the

00:51:44.550 --> 00:51:46.889
buildings can't really be sold and nobody wants

00:51:46.889 --> 00:51:49.010
to be responsible for putting money into refixing

00:51:49.010 --> 00:51:51.309
them or repairing them. And because the people

00:51:51.309 --> 00:51:53.710
living there don't own them, they have absolutely

00:51:53.710 --> 00:51:56.829
no onus to actually take care of the place. So

00:51:56.829 --> 00:51:58.449
if you want to see what I'm talking about, refer

00:51:58.449 --> 00:52:00.289
to Section 8 housing is basically what I'm getting

00:52:00.289 --> 00:52:03.289
at. That's exactly what that is. There's a reason

00:52:03.289 --> 00:52:05.050
why there was an epidemic with Section 8 people

00:52:05.050 --> 00:52:06.929
pulling copper out of the walls and tearing apart

00:52:06.929 --> 00:52:09.329
the place and doing stuff. And in the state that

00:52:09.329 --> 00:52:11.309
I'm from, you can't even kick them out without

00:52:11.309 --> 00:52:13.010
a six month notice. So it's one of those things

00:52:13.010 --> 00:52:15.880
where if they tear apart everything. That happened

00:52:15.880 --> 00:52:17.539
to a family member of mine. She rented it out

00:52:17.539 --> 00:52:19.880
to someone, and because that person had a kid,

00:52:19.920 --> 00:52:21.460
it was, well, you've got to give them their six

00:52:21.460 --> 00:52:24.019
months. It's like, yeah, but they literally tore

00:52:24.019 --> 00:52:27.039
the walls out. And the response was, well, they

00:52:27.039 --> 00:52:30.199
have a kid. It's per the law. You've got to give

00:52:30.199 --> 00:52:31.699
them their due diligence. You've got to give

00:52:31.699 --> 00:52:36.000
them their time. And it's more of a problem of

00:52:36.000 --> 00:52:37.679
the laws that are in the books rather than Section

00:52:37.679 --> 00:52:40.039
8 in and of itself or the social housing because

00:52:40.039 --> 00:52:43.699
if there were guarantees... Or standards saying,

00:52:43.780 --> 00:52:45.659
hey, you've got to work this many hours and you've

00:52:45.659 --> 00:52:46.940
got to take care of this place and there were

00:52:46.940 --> 00:52:49.300
inspections. That would be a different story.

00:52:50.280 --> 00:52:52.519
And I'm sure there is a way to make social housing

00:52:52.519 --> 00:52:56.179
work. I'm sure there are some people that maybe

00:52:56.179 --> 00:52:59.300
they can only work 20 hours a week or 50 hours

00:52:59.300 --> 00:53:00.920
a month or whatever it is. Maybe they can only

00:53:00.920 --> 00:53:02.599
do certain things or they're disabled or this

00:53:02.599 --> 00:53:04.960
or that or they're elderly and just shit happened

00:53:04.960 --> 00:53:07.519
in life or they don't have other options. I feel

00:53:07.519 --> 00:53:09.579
like for those people, that's something that

00:53:09.579 --> 00:53:12.179
should be available. But for people that are

00:53:12.179 --> 00:53:14.559
able -bodied and able to do stuff and able to

00:53:14.559 --> 00:53:17.639
work and are educated, that's where I have an

00:53:17.639 --> 00:53:20.099
issue with this. If you're able to actually do

00:53:20.099 --> 00:53:22.199
something, contribute, you shouldn't be in something

00:53:22.199 --> 00:53:24.739
like social housing. But unfortunately, that's

00:53:24.739 --> 00:53:26.239
how it always gets abused because there's really

00:53:26.239 --> 00:53:32.320
no system that efficiently keeps people out of

00:53:32.320 --> 00:53:35.119
it. Because they always say it's discrimination.

00:53:35.500 --> 00:53:39.650
So that's always the issue. So it's that revolving

00:53:39.650 --> 00:53:43.369
door where it could work, but nobody really wants

00:53:43.369 --> 00:53:45.010
to put their foot down and say, I'm sorry, you're

00:53:45.010 --> 00:53:54.730
not approved. No. No, it's sad because the social

00:53:54.730 --> 00:53:58.070
housing stuff like Section 8, you always have

00:53:58.070 --> 00:54:01.809
more bad apples than good that ruin it for everybody.

00:54:02.329 --> 00:54:06.550
And there are people who genuinely just need...

00:54:07.309 --> 00:54:10.789
a leg up and a break for that point in their

00:54:10.789 --> 00:54:13.769
life. And it's, it's sad because they always

00:54:13.769 --> 00:54:16.650
end up there with the, the shitheads trying to

00:54:16.650 --> 00:54:23.230
just take advantage of things. I hate that, but

00:54:23.230 --> 00:54:30.489
so we can talk all day about the idea of building

00:54:30.489 --> 00:54:34.530
these cities from scratch and making multi -use

00:54:34.530 --> 00:54:36.719
buildings and everything. But Where the hell

00:54:36.719 --> 00:54:40.800
are you going to put them? You got to have land.

00:54:42.559 --> 00:54:47.780
So last episode, we talked about the use of federal

00:54:47.780 --> 00:54:56.000
lands in a couple different ways. Excuse me.

00:54:56.239 --> 00:55:00.519
But we had talked about BlackRock potentially

00:55:00.519 --> 00:55:03.659
buying. Some of the federal lands to be used

00:55:03.659 --> 00:55:05.840
as development, but that was still kind of in

00:55:05.840 --> 00:55:08.659
the air as to whether that was true or not. I

00:55:08.659 --> 00:55:12.239
still have not found anything as to like hard

00:55:12.239 --> 00:55:19.260
rock proof that there is any allowance for them

00:55:19.260 --> 00:55:24.840
to do that. But on the assumption that either

00:55:24.840 --> 00:55:27.420
them or other investment companies will be allowed

00:55:27.420 --> 00:55:32.059
to purchase federal lands. or just federal land

00:55:32.059 --> 00:55:41.099
being opened up to any entity to build on. You've

00:55:41.099 --> 00:55:46.039
got BLM that manages a lot of land, which I know

00:55:46.039 --> 00:55:49.320
we've seen how BLM likes to interact with the

00:55:49.320 --> 00:55:51.659
people out west when it comes to land issues.

00:55:53.179 --> 00:55:56.199
Forest Service, Fish and Wildlife, and the National

00:55:56.199 --> 00:56:02.070
Parks, which the National Parks, There are a

00:56:02.070 --> 00:56:06.690
lot of very special places out West that need

00:56:06.690 --> 00:56:09.750
to be protected. And I want to put that out there

00:56:09.750 --> 00:56:13.650
first, but I think it's worth kind of saying,

00:56:13.829 --> 00:56:18.070
okay, maybe some of these places are just a little

00:56:18.070 --> 00:56:22.150
bit too big and they don't need 50 ,000 acres.

00:56:22.570 --> 00:56:25.949
You know, the main park is, you know, this 30

00:56:25.949 --> 00:56:30.360
,000 right here. So let's maybe re -look at some

00:56:30.360 --> 00:56:33.699
of these areas. Look at it. I'm not saying open

00:56:33.699 --> 00:56:38.039
it up 100%. Just kind of look things over is

00:56:38.039 --> 00:56:40.639
all I'm saying. Well, I guess the way to look

00:56:40.639 --> 00:56:42.599
at it is this, and this is something pretty simple.

00:56:43.320 --> 00:56:46.619
Cities generate a lot of heat. So why not look

00:56:46.619 --> 00:56:48.280
at areas of the country that are usually very

00:56:48.280 --> 00:56:50.840
cold, that are very tundra - Underground! Well

00:56:50.840 --> 00:56:53.579
- Let's go back underground! Well, I'm getting

00:56:53.579 --> 00:56:55.880
- That's another point I was going to make, but

00:56:55.880 --> 00:56:57.860
- What I'm getting at is there are places like

00:56:57.860 --> 00:57:00.260
out in the middle of Montana, North Dakota, anywhere

00:57:00.260 --> 00:57:03.099
along that Canadian border. We've even looked

00:57:03.099 --> 00:57:05.400
at properties up there where there's just nothing

00:57:05.400 --> 00:57:08.760
for hundreds of miles. There are reasons, Gibbs,

00:57:08.900 --> 00:57:11.559
because it gets cold and we don't like the cold.

00:57:12.239 --> 00:57:17.539
But we are really good at making a cold place

00:57:17.539 --> 00:57:21.840
a warm place. We are very good at insulating

00:57:21.840 --> 00:57:25.559
things. So here is my thought. I'm very good

00:57:25.559 --> 00:57:28.079
at insulating myself, as you can see. Yeah, I'm

00:57:28.079 --> 00:57:30.019
too good at it. That's my problem. I went a little

00:57:30.019 --> 00:57:33.539
too ham with that. I said, fuck being cold, and

00:57:33.539 --> 00:57:35.719
now I'm just sweating all the time. It's not

00:57:35.719 --> 00:57:37.860
recommended. Don't get fat, kids. It's not worth

00:57:37.860 --> 00:57:44.219
it. But what I'm getting at is if we start saying,

00:57:44.320 --> 00:57:46.360
hey, we have all this land up in the north that

00:57:46.360 --> 00:57:50.659
there really isn't much of an ecological population.

00:57:50.659 --> 00:57:52.400
There's not really many animals or much going

00:57:52.400 --> 00:57:55.679
on. It's almost like a tundra. Why don't we start

00:57:55.679 --> 00:57:57.460
saying, hey, if we need more land, let's build

00:57:57.460 --> 00:57:59.900
there first. Don't build in areas where we have

00:57:59.900 --> 00:58:02.860
beautiful forests and parks and all this nature

00:58:02.860 --> 00:58:05.760
and everything else going on. Let that be so

00:58:05.760 --> 00:58:07.739
we have it in the future for future generations

00:58:07.739 --> 00:58:10.880
to enjoy. Because I dislike the idea of us selling

00:58:10.880 --> 00:58:13.300
that land and saying, well, we need the space

00:58:13.300 --> 00:58:15.920
when we have entire towns and cities in this

00:58:15.920 --> 00:58:18.219
country that are abandoned. Then we have already

00:58:18.219 --> 00:58:22.000
plots of land that are not federal land in terms

00:58:22.000 --> 00:58:24.239
of like conservation land that are just empty.

00:58:24.599 --> 00:58:26.360
There are towns and cities in the U .S. with

00:58:26.360 --> 00:58:28.780
a population of zero. Why don't we start there?

00:58:28.820 --> 00:58:30.219
They're already connected to roadways. They're

00:58:30.219 --> 00:58:32.639
already connected to stuff. It's very simple.

00:58:33.199 --> 00:58:36.539
Find some of those that are near enough to highways

00:58:36.539 --> 00:58:39.320
to be connected and start designing these cities

00:58:39.320 --> 00:58:43.719
from day one. Until we use up all that land,

00:58:43.840 --> 00:58:45.199
I don't think we should be selling any of the

00:58:45.199 --> 00:58:47.960
federal land because I do not trust for a second.

00:58:48.440 --> 00:58:51.119
I agree with you. Average Americans will get

00:58:51.119 --> 00:58:52.639
their hands on that land. It will all go to some

00:58:52.639 --> 00:58:54.760
mega corporation that one of these politicians

00:58:54.760 --> 00:58:56.260
are in bed with. And then all of a sudden, one

00:58:56.260 --> 00:58:58.420
day you're going to say, hey, wow, 10 % of Utah

00:58:58.420 --> 00:59:00.639
just got bought by BlackRock. And it's a gold

00:59:00.639 --> 00:59:03.860
mine. And it's a lithium mine. They're just going

00:59:03.860 --> 00:59:07.179
to strip everything. Well, that's rare metal

00:59:07.179 --> 00:59:11.139
mining is the number one concern that most people

00:59:11.139 --> 00:59:14.460
have with the opening of a lot of the BLM stuff.

00:59:16.440 --> 00:59:20.579
Bureau of Land Management. Yes. I hate I have

00:59:20.579 --> 00:59:24.860
to clarify that. Jesus. I know. Yes. But I think

00:59:24.860 --> 00:59:27.460
you see what I'm saying, though, is let's go

00:59:27.460 --> 00:59:29.519
that route first. And I don't know why as well.

00:59:29.599 --> 00:59:31.539
We haven't already tried to restart some of these

00:59:31.539 --> 00:59:34.820
old towns and cities anyway that are dying. The

00:59:34.820 --> 00:59:36.360
infrastructure is already there. Sure, it needs

00:59:36.360 --> 00:59:38.599
updating, but that's sure as shit going to be

00:59:38.599 --> 00:59:42.139
cheaper. There's a guy on YouTube that bought

00:59:42.139 --> 00:59:46.639
an old silver mining town. And he's been kind

00:59:46.639 --> 00:59:48.639
of going around and just fixing up the buildings

00:59:48.639 --> 00:59:52.719
there. It's amazing. See, I wish I could develop

00:59:52.719 --> 00:59:54.659
a family homestead like that or a family compound.

00:59:55.139 --> 00:59:59.880
That's my dream. But if they could do this in

00:59:59.880 --> 01:00:01.360
a way where you build an airport out in the middle

01:00:01.360 --> 01:00:02.980
of nowhere, you build some infrastructure, you

01:00:02.980 --> 01:00:06.679
build some things, you eventually will get enough

01:00:06.679 --> 01:00:08.119
people moving there because all you have to do

01:00:08.119 --> 01:00:09.820
is create jobs. That's your number one thing.

01:00:09.880 --> 01:00:11.159
People don't move to somewhere where there are

01:00:11.159 --> 01:00:15.429
no jobs. Yes. Or you make it with really good

01:00:15.429 --> 01:00:18.289
internet and then you have a remote job hub.

01:00:19.230 --> 01:00:21.150
Which would be great as well, especially if you

01:00:21.150 --> 01:00:22.929
have tax benefits and everything else. There

01:00:22.929 --> 01:00:25.789
are ways to do this. If the politicians stop

01:00:25.789 --> 01:00:28.789
being old curmudgeon pain in my ass and actually

01:00:28.789 --> 01:00:32.250
fucking got with the times, people would actually

01:00:32.250 --> 01:00:35.130
move there and do these things. But no, it said

01:00:35.130 --> 01:00:37.210
all of our politicians are 85 years old and they

01:00:37.210 --> 01:00:39.349
don't know what the internet is. So I, yeah,

01:00:39.489 --> 01:00:45.260
they'll never understand. It's not until my generation

01:00:45.260 --> 01:00:49.360
gets into politics a little more heavily. Which

01:00:49.360 --> 01:00:51.000
is going to be fucking terrifying, by the way.

01:00:52.380 --> 01:00:54.840
Especially if Gen Z gets into politics like hardcore

01:00:54.840 --> 01:00:59.960
because they're going to. Right. But no, Gen

01:00:59.960 --> 01:01:01.760
Z is going to run the country one day. That's

01:01:01.760 --> 01:01:03.280
a terrifying thought. There's going to be a Gen

01:01:03.280 --> 01:01:07.480
Z president. Maybe we'll get lucky and they'll

01:01:07.480 --> 01:01:09.219
just skip Gen Z and go straight to Gen Alpha.

01:01:09.710 --> 01:01:12.690
Which is even more scary, dude. I can't imagine

01:01:12.690 --> 01:01:14.369
a president that always has an iPad in front

01:01:14.369 --> 01:01:17.489
of his face. I can't. I just or or the president

01:01:17.489 --> 01:01:20.809
speech is going to be, yo, what's up, fam? Thank

01:01:20.809 --> 01:01:22.869
you for the nog. I really appreciate it. Like

01:01:22.869 --> 01:01:24.849
it just it's going to be so cringe. It's going

01:01:24.849 --> 01:01:27.809
to be the most ridiculous thing. This this speech

01:01:27.809 --> 01:01:33.289
will be ultra sus and skivity. It's going to

01:01:33.289 --> 01:01:35.389
be a whole fucking. You know what? You know what's

01:01:35.389 --> 01:01:37.050
going to happen is we are going to look at that

01:01:37.050 --> 01:01:39.280
like we currently look at Shakespeare. We're

01:01:39.280 --> 01:01:41.079
in the weird middle group to where we do speak

01:01:41.079 --> 01:01:46.199
mostly regular English. Previously, it sounds

01:01:46.199 --> 01:01:48.000
weird to us. And then, like, 50 years in the

01:01:48.000 --> 01:01:49.980
future, it's going to sound weird. We're going

01:01:49.980 --> 01:01:51.500
to be this weird anomaly where eventually they're

01:01:51.500 --> 01:01:53.159
going to say, well, then there was a time for

01:01:53.159 --> 01:01:56.400
middle English. And, you know, discusses from,

01:01:56.500 --> 01:02:01.679
you know, the late 1850s until, you know. Think

01:02:01.679 --> 01:02:03.199
about this. Eventually, we're going to be in

01:02:03.199 --> 01:02:06.260
a history book someday. It's the fucking idiocracy

01:02:06.260 --> 01:02:11.179
timeline. Yes, this is... Oh, my God. What do

01:02:11.179 --> 01:02:13.659
you do here? We knew this. We knew this was happening.

01:02:15.679 --> 01:02:23.320
No, but it really is. Yes. It's a prophecy. Okay,

01:02:23.440 --> 01:02:26.800
y 'all, listen, listen. If you have not watched

01:02:26.800 --> 01:02:29.519
Idiocracy before, or if you have not seen it

01:02:29.519 --> 01:02:34.920
recently, do that this weekend, okay? Sit down

01:02:34.920 --> 01:02:37.780
and watch Idiocracy and take some fucking notes

01:02:37.780 --> 01:02:42.460
because it's fucking happening. Welcome to Costco.

01:02:42.500 --> 01:02:48.800
We love you. It is a movie that I think that

01:02:48.800 --> 01:02:50.360
the viewers at home got to understand that like

01:02:50.360 --> 01:02:53.599
this has been inevitable, but it's going to get

01:02:53.599 --> 01:02:56.699
way worse. It's going to get way worse than that.

01:02:57.719 --> 01:03:00.260
I want to get a message to the scientists at

01:03:00.260 --> 01:03:03.710
CERN. Good luck. Please turn the fucking machine

01:03:03.710 --> 01:03:08.769
off. I don't like this timeline, okay? Oh, Jesus.

01:03:10.530 --> 01:03:13.710
See, no, no, no. It's because of the Harambe

01:03:13.710 --> 01:03:15.829
thing. It has nothing to do with CERN. We got

01:03:15.829 --> 01:03:17.809
put on a weird timeline ever since that. They

01:03:17.809 --> 01:03:21.329
turned on the machine, Harambe died, and now

01:03:21.329 --> 01:03:27.769
we're on that fucked up timeline. Yeah. Anyways.

01:03:27.989 --> 01:03:30.250
I don't know. The world's weird. None of this

01:03:30.250 --> 01:03:33.900
makes sense. No. If multiverse theory is true,

01:03:34.039 --> 01:03:37.179
we're in one of the weird ones. We're definitely

01:03:37.179 --> 01:03:39.440
in one of the weird ones. We're in one of the,

01:03:39.480 --> 01:03:42.880
wow, I didn't think it would go that way. So

01:03:42.880 --> 01:03:49.559
as far as land acquisition goes, there is another

01:03:49.559 --> 01:03:54.460
method that we can go about. We can destroy what's

01:03:54.460 --> 01:03:57.739
already there and just rebuild over top of it.

01:03:58.900 --> 01:04:02.260
Like aliens destroying a major city. and us building

01:04:02.260 --> 01:04:05.440
upon the ruins like they did in Futurama. We

01:04:05.440 --> 01:04:09.199
can use giant space lasers to set big cities

01:04:09.199 --> 01:04:13.880
on fire, like in Maui and Los Angeles. That has

01:04:13.880 --> 01:04:16.739
unfortunately not been confirmed, sadly. Wait

01:04:16.739 --> 01:04:19.440
a minute. Are you suggesting that these other

01:04:19.440 --> 01:04:22.420
places, they set fires and purposely only burn

01:04:22.420 --> 01:04:24.639
down certain buildings to therefore gain ownership

01:04:24.639 --> 01:04:28.460
of and then build whatever they want? I said

01:04:28.460 --> 01:04:32.199
nothing of the sort you did. How dare you? How

01:04:32.199 --> 01:04:36.280
dare you? Honestly, though, I still think that

01:04:36.280 --> 01:04:38.300
was a setup. I'm sorry. I know that's conspiracy

01:04:38.300 --> 01:04:42.260
theory. I, Pip, of the Now We Consume podcast,

01:04:42.380 --> 01:04:46.099
personally feel both of those cities were 100

01:04:46.099 --> 01:04:51.000
% setups. However, as much clickbait, rage bait,

01:04:51.099 --> 01:04:55.219
and bullshit video stuff is out there. I cannot

01:04:55.219 --> 01:04:59.099
find undeniable proof that that was what happened.

01:04:59.619 --> 01:05:02.840
It just seems like... I just can't. The AI stuff

01:05:02.840 --> 01:05:07.940
is too good. And we've talked about this. And

01:05:07.940 --> 01:05:11.639
I know that we have had episodes, like three

01:05:11.639 --> 01:05:15.300
of them now, on AI bullshit. We're probably going

01:05:15.300 --> 01:05:17.679
to have to fucking do another one because of

01:05:17.679 --> 01:05:19.780
all the other shit that's going on with AI stuff.

01:05:19.960 --> 01:05:23.780
And it's freaking me the fuck out. And I sound

01:05:23.780 --> 01:05:26.460
like a goddamn nut job when I talk about this

01:05:26.460 --> 01:05:29.780
stuff. But holy shit, it's really fucking scary

01:05:29.780 --> 01:05:32.820
because it just makes sense. Yeah, but here's

01:05:32.820 --> 01:05:34.000
the thing you don't have to worry about. Eventually,

01:05:34.039 --> 01:05:35.760
the AI will know you so well that it will just

01:05:35.760 --> 01:05:39.139
make the world make sense for you. Eventually,

01:05:39.139 --> 01:05:40.559
you won't be able to distinguish what reality

01:05:40.559 --> 01:05:43.539
is. It'll be what you think it is. So you'll

01:05:43.539 --> 01:05:46.829
always be right. Congratulations. I don't like

01:05:46.829 --> 01:05:49.369
that comment, Gibbs. It's the world you always

01:05:49.369 --> 01:05:51.449
thought it would be. It's just not the one you

01:05:51.449 --> 01:05:55.909
wanted. I do not want the penile implant shoving

01:05:55.909 --> 01:05:58.750
into my head every day like they showed in The

01:05:58.750 --> 01:06:02.550
Matrix, okay? I do not want that implant. Well,

01:06:02.710 --> 01:06:07.860
you're assuming you get to consent to that. Wait

01:06:07.860 --> 01:06:11.380
until the day when the Starlink or fucking whatever,

01:06:11.440 --> 01:06:13.679
the Starlink, the NanoLink, the brain thing,

01:06:13.739 --> 01:06:15.400
whatever, it's going to be deemed... Neuralink.

01:06:15.400 --> 01:06:18.019
Yeah, Neuralink. Wait until the day, because

01:06:18.019 --> 01:06:20.159
I will tell you this right now, I know for a

01:06:20.159 --> 01:06:21.679
fact where this is going to go. They're going

01:06:21.679 --> 01:06:23.699
to start requiring that for people that are felons

01:06:23.699 --> 01:06:27.019
at some point. It's going to... I'm telling you

01:06:27.019 --> 01:06:31.139
right now... Demolition Man, but with Neuralink.

01:06:31.320 --> 01:06:37.239
Yep. Oh, yeah. Oh, you've touched my talala.

01:06:37.480 --> 01:06:39.960
You've been convicted of a thought crime. How

01:06:39.960 --> 01:06:43.440
guilty do you plead? How guilty do you plead?

01:06:43.800 --> 01:06:48.340
Oh, Gibbs. Yeah, I'm telling you. Oh, man. Think

01:06:48.340 --> 01:06:50.159
about this. We're already figuring out how the

01:06:50.159 --> 01:06:51.920
brain thinks, but they're using the brain to

01:06:51.920 --> 01:06:54.780
be able to control different prosthetics, so

01:06:54.780 --> 01:06:56.960
they understand now what the command is to move

01:06:56.960 --> 01:06:58.900
your arm. Different prophylactics? Prosthetics,

01:06:58.960 --> 01:07:00.699
not prophylactics. That sounds like a you problem.

01:07:02.659 --> 01:07:05.400
But they could probably do those, too. It could,

01:07:05.539 --> 01:07:09.920
but think about it. If we can already, as of

01:07:09.920 --> 01:07:15.039
now on a inexpensive scale, be able to build

01:07:15.039 --> 01:07:16.659
prosthetics that your brain can control, just

01:07:16.659 --> 01:07:18.480
being open the hand, close the hand, move the

01:07:18.480 --> 01:07:20.360
finger, move the arm. If we've already figured

01:07:20.360 --> 01:07:23.559
that out, give AI a few years with that information.

01:07:24.920 --> 01:07:31.320
You ain't safe. Yeah. Nope. No. And for anybody

01:07:31.320 --> 01:07:34.000
that has taken the time to find the discord,

01:07:35.000 --> 01:07:40.559
And I see those numbers. Slackers. I posted in

01:07:40.559 --> 01:07:43.719
there that there's a company by the name of Andrill

01:07:43.719 --> 01:07:47.199
Industries. Feel free to look them up. They make

01:07:47.199 --> 01:07:50.739
drones for the military. They just signed a contract

01:07:50.739 --> 01:07:54.420
with ChatGPT. They're going to have access to

01:07:54.420 --> 01:07:59.539
their AI software. Did no one watch the Terminator

01:07:59.539 --> 01:08:03.039
movies? Or am I the only one? Because holy shit.

01:08:03.769 --> 01:08:05.829
They're building a plant like an hour away from

01:08:05.829 --> 01:08:09.570
me. Even better. Ohio is going to be the reason

01:08:09.570 --> 01:08:12.090
that the apocalypse happens. People were right.

01:08:14.210 --> 01:08:17.909
I don't like any of this. I like how we're getting

01:08:17.909 --> 01:08:19.689
subsidized. Terminator is what we're getting

01:08:19.689 --> 01:08:22.029
at this point. It wasn't even just a company

01:08:22.029 --> 01:08:23.970
building it. It's going to be government subsidized

01:08:23.970 --> 01:08:27.590
Terminator. Yeah, it's going to be full on Skynet.

01:08:27.689 --> 01:08:30.909
They're building Skynet. Yes. I hate sounding

01:08:30.909 --> 01:08:35.020
like a fucking crackpot. But I see the connections.

01:08:35.199 --> 01:08:37.659
It's not hard to fucking make the red strings

01:08:37.659 --> 01:08:40.399
on the corkboard. It's like A connects to B connects

01:08:40.399 --> 01:08:43.119
to C, and holy shit, we're dead. Just wait until

01:08:43.119 --> 01:08:45.939
they make all the IRS agents, those guys, so

01:08:45.939 --> 01:08:47.399
that we get the term where you're blocking down

01:08:47.399 --> 01:08:50.079
your door. Come with me if you want to pay your

01:08:50.079 --> 01:08:57.659
taxes. Dude, I'm telling you. I have armor -piercing

01:08:57.659 --> 01:09:00.119
rounds. I'm not worried about them. Yeah, but

01:09:00.119 --> 01:09:01.680
it's not the first one that comes to the door.

01:09:01.720 --> 01:09:05.840
It's the 37th. I have way more armor -piercing

01:09:05.840 --> 01:09:11.479
rounds than they have bots. Yeah. But it's, I

01:09:11.479 --> 01:09:13.720
don't know. It's just one of those things where

01:09:13.720 --> 01:09:17.600
it's definitely getting out of control. It is,

01:09:17.800 --> 01:09:22.420
but I also posted on our Discord the clip from

01:09:22.420 --> 01:09:26.119
that show about the little killer drone. That

01:09:26.119 --> 01:09:28.760
was like it fit in the palm of your hand. It

01:09:28.760 --> 01:09:31.479
was from seven years ago. That's the kind of

01:09:31.479 --> 01:09:33.159
bullshit they're going to be making at that factory.

01:09:33.199 --> 01:09:35.260
Because you know what? We have the technology

01:09:35.260 --> 01:09:39.739
now. I sound like an absolute psychotic crazy

01:09:39.739 --> 01:09:44.300
person when I say this. But it's all there. It

01:09:44.300 --> 01:09:47.340
is literally all right there on a silver fucking

01:09:47.340 --> 01:09:50.640
platter. And it's just let's make these connections

01:09:50.640 --> 01:09:55.960
and we're dead. Well. We're going to have a very

01:09:55.960 --> 01:09:57.579
interesting future. Gibbs, I do not want to be

01:09:57.579 --> 01:10:00.680
right on this shit. And I'm really kind of worried

01:10:00.680 --> 01:10:03.579
that I am. And I'm sorry that we went from talking

01:10:03.579 --> 01:10:08.720
about megacities and Judge Dredd comics to, you

01:10:08.720 --> 01:10:12.060
know, drones are going to kill us. But that's

01:10:12.060 --> 01:10:13.520
just kind of how my brain works sometimes. It

01:10:13.520 --> 01:10:16.279
goes in the fact that, so this is one of the

01:10:16.279 --> 01:10:18.699
reasons why I brought this up originally, was

01:10:18.699 --> 01:10:21.699
these megacities have a very dystopic kind of

01:10:21.699 --> 01:10:24.369
background to them. And what I'm getting at is

01:10:24.369 --> 01:10:28.029
the other half of the conversation when it comes

01:10:28.029 --> 01:10:31.729
to great. So you will get, if let's just say

01:10:31.729 --> 01:10:34.350
everything planned out, you will get a city that

01:10:34.350 --> 01:10:36.609
you can walk everywhere, inexpensive apartment.

01:10:37.010 --> 01:10:39.210
You don't have to own things like a car. You

01:10:39.210 --> 01:10:40.869
don't own the apartment. You just rent it or

01:10:40.869 --> 01:10:44.529
you're part of a co -op or whatever. The idea

01:10:44.529 --> 01:10:48.350
being is the good news in that city is that you

01:10:48.350 --> 01:10:51.109
have everything that the government and or the

01:10:51.109 --> 01:10:54.090
planners think you need. But is it everything

01:10:54.090 --> 01:10:57.609
you want? That's the other half of the argument,

01:10:57.689 --> 01:11:00.670
is that they are building a city for what they

01:11:00.670 --> 01:11:05.229
think you might want or need. And my question

01:11:05.229 --> 01:11:10.390
is, are you okay, as a listener or viewer, are

01:11:10.390 --> 01:11:11.649
you okay with giving that up to the government

01:11:11.649 --> 01:11:14.630
and just saying, hey, design my city, do it,

01:11:14.649 --> 01:11:17.229
make it pre -planned and everything, and whatever

01:11:17.229 --> 01:11:19.850
gets whatever I get? Because the other problem

01:11:19.850 --> 01:11:21.869
with these cities is when you're talking about

01:11:21.869 --> 01:11:24.479
surveillance, You're talking about freedom of

01:11:24.479 --> 01:11:27.199
movement. If you look at what's been happening

01:11:27.199 --> 01:11:30.300
in England for the last 10 or 15 years, did you

01:11:30.300 --> 01:11:33.880
guys know that there is basically a fine to go

01:11:33.880 --> 01:11:38.119
drive in and out of London? It's basically like

01:11:38.119 --> 01:11:41.960
an emissions kind of fine. Where the idea is

01:11:41.960 --> 01:11:43.779
that you have to pay an emissions tax to get

01:11:43.779 --> 01:11:46.899
in and out of the city. Gross. And they have...

01:11:47.530 --> 01:11:50.390
Speed cameras everywhere. So they will even track

01:11:50.390 --> 01:11:52.149
where you're going, let you know, hey, we saw

01:11:52.149 --> 01:11:54.390
you were here, this and there. They will give

01:11:54.390 --> 01:11:55.970
you fines even if you're going just a couple

01:11:55.970 --> 01:11:57.409
of miles an hour, a couple of kilometers an hour

01:11:57.409 --> 01:12:00.569
over the speed limit. But it's constant surveillance

01:12:00.569 --> 01:12:03.890
everywhere you go to the point to where people

01:12:03.890 --> 01:12:07.189
that even say things that are not necessarily

01:12:07.189 --> 01:12:09.770
bad, but maybe controversial, have been arrested.

01:12:10.609 --> 01:12:12.590
The issue I wanted to bring up is with these

01:12:12.590 --> 01:12:17.300
cities. While. there are many chances to make

01:12:17.300 --> 01:12:20.720
the lives easier for people. You are also removing

01:12:20.720 --> 01:12:23.779
many of your freedoms in this situation because

01:12:23.779 --> 01:12:26.600
every single building, every single part of the

01:12:26.600 --> 01:12:28.600
infrastructure, every vehicle is already pre

01:12:28.600 --> 01:12:31.840
-planned. So if you want anything outside of

01:12:31.840 --> 01:12:34.960
that norm, you basically don't have an option.

01:12:35.140 --> 01:12:38.680
You basically can't. Being able to get out of

01:12:38.680 --> 01:12:40.600
that city will be prohibitively expensive. That's

01:12:40.600 --> 01:12:42.779
the other flip coin. The flip side of this is...

01:12:43.229 --> 01:12:44.789
what happens if you want to travel or if you

01:12:44.789 --> 01:12:46.369
want to go around if you want to buy some land

01:12:46.369 --> 01:12:48.770
somewhere or own something there is the potential

01:12:48.770 --> 01:12:51.729
if done correctly it can give you more freedoms

01:12:51.729 --> 01:12:54.729
and more options unfortunately as we see with

01:12:54.729 --> 01:12:58.170
most any of the mega cities in the us every single

01:12:58.170 --> 01:13:01.789
one of them due to your safety to make your day

01:13:01.789 --> 01:13:04.109
better they restrict your freedoms every single

01:13:04.109 --> 01:13:07.750
time so it is something to keep in mind as to

01:13:07.750 --> 01:13:12.149
while i'd like the idea of a more efficient city

01:13:13.240 --> 01:13:16.180
Something that is planned better, much better

01:13:16.180 --> 01:13:18.539
public transportation, even maybe better policing,

01:13:18.680 --> 01:13:21.840
security, fire, building standards, everything.

01:13:23.859 --> 01:13:26.800
You are going to have to give up, I think, with

01:13:26.800 --> 01:13:28.319
the way that they're talking about it, some of

01:13:28.319 --> 01:13:30.619
your freedoms. Things like possibly being able

01:13:30.619 --> 01:13:32.420
to choose where you get your food from, for example.

01:13:33.760 --> 01:13:36.560
Or being able to choose what you do for work,

01:13:36.600 --> 01:13:39.140
because the government might be picking out what

01:13:39.140 --> 01:13:41.239
you do. The reason why I bring this up is, for

01:13:41.239 --> 01:13:42.880
example, the new mayor of New York City that

01:13:42.880 --> 01:13:45.859
got elected. He wants to bring government run

01:13:45.859 --> 01:13:51.039
markets in government run grocery stores. This

01:13:51.039 --> 01:13:53.180
is part of the concern is that once you start

01:13:53.180 --> 01:13:56.000
going down a little bit down this path of things

01:13:56.000 --> 01:13:58.800
being government run, it just trickles down more

01:13:58.800 --> 01:14:02.319
and more. So if we did this combination of this

01:14:02.319 --> 01:14:06.470
pre planning with a. laissez -faire capitalist

01:14:06.470 --> 01:14:09.409
style but with some pretty strict restrictions

01:14:09.409 --> 01:14:12.069
in some areas there's a way of making it work

01:14:12.069 --> 01:14:14.630
but it seems like it every single time you try

01:14:14.630 --> 01:14:17.090
to do something like this they push the boundary

01:14:17.090 --> 01:14:20.310
they push it farther and then it really really

01:14:20.310 --> 01:14:22.670
becomes an issue to where your freedoms are limited

01:14:22.670 --> 01:14:24.430
if you look at what's happening in places like

01:14:24.430 --> 01:14:28.109
london for example um watch some videos watch

01:14:28.109 --> 01:14:30.659
some interviews It's amazing how different it's

01:14:30.659 --> 01:14:33.260
looked from 15 years ago in terms of their rights,

01:14:33.319 --> 01:14:34.920
their freedoms, and what the population demographics

01:14:34.920 --> 01:14:39.319
are. So just keep that in mind. I just want to

01:14:39.319 --> 01:14:40.819
bring that up because we already have some case

01:14:40.819 --> 01:14:44.659
studies kind of on how this has gone. Yeah. I

01:14:44.659 --> 01:14:47.819
have some thoughts on the London situation and

01:14:47.819 --> 01:14:50.500
the mayor of New York and some other things,

01:14:50.600 --> 01:14:53.520
but I'll keep those to myself for now. I'm on

01:14:53.520 --> 01:15:00.140
enough lists. Yeah, so I think back to the original

01:15:00.140 --> 01:15:02.039
conversation that started all this is, I think

01:15:02.039 --> 01:15:04.239
you and I could both agree, there have been natural

01:15:04.239 --> 01:15:06.340
disasters or disasters that have been created

01:15:06.340 --> 01:15:09.380
to clear certain areas so that these areas can

01:15:09.380 --> 01:15:11.039
eventually be rebuilt. Tennessee Valley Authority.

01:15:11.380 --> 01:15:16.579
Yeah. They flooded out a whole region to build

01:15:16.579 --> 01:15:20.899
a dam for a power plant. Look up the Tennessee

01:15:20.899 --> 01:15:23.939
Valley Authority. Do some reading. That's a great

01:15:23.939 --> 01:15:27.409
one to look into. Now, yes, they did that. With

01:15:27.409 --> 01:15:29.689
permission from most of the residents, but not

01:15:29.689 --> 01:15:31.789
everybody wanted to sell. Nope. But if you don't

01:15:31.789 --> 01:15:32.970
get permission, oh, well, there's something called

01:15:32.970 --> 01:15:34.449
eminent domain. They'll just take your shit.

01:15:36.210 --> 01:15:38.989
Yep. Just like if anyone ever wants to get really

01:15:38.989 --> 01:15:42.850
pissed off, look up civil asset forfeiture. Oh,

01:15:42.909 --> 01:15:45.729
yeah. Look up that one. That's a fun one. Oh,

01:15:45.750 --> 01:15:49.409
yeah. So the government loves taking your shit.

01:15:50.550 --> 01:15:57.680
Trample my right, daddy. Oh. So, yeah, I think

01:15:57.680 --> 01:16:01.920
with the cities movement, there is something

01:16:01.920 --> 01:16:03.699
to be said with making cities more efficient

01:16:03.699 --> 01:16:06.680
and changing out some things. My question to

01:16:06.680 --> 01:16:08.199
you was going to be, I know you kind of touched

01:16:08.199 --> 01:16:11.579
upon this a little bit. What if we just, you

01:16:11.579 --> 01:16:16.140
know, how should I say this, became dwarves and

01:16:16.140 --> 01:16:20.000
just dug into the mountain, just dug underground.

01:16:20.319 --> 01:16:24.850
Digging hole, digging hole. Because when you

01:16:24.850 --> 01:16:26.750
think about it, it's living underground. It's

01:16:26.750 --> 01:16:30.649
way more thermally efficient. It would be. The

01:16:30.649 --> 01:16:34.210
issue is we lose a lot of our humanity if we

01:16:34.210 --> 01:16:36.590
go underground. There was an experiment done.

01:16:37.550 --> 01:16:40.550
I cannot think of when, but I want to say back

01:16:40.550 --> 01:16:42.550
in like the 70s or 80s. It doesn't have to be

01:16:42.550 --> 01:16:46.729
all day. Oh, you just want to live or sleep underground.

01:16:46.869 --> 01:16:48.810
So what I'm getting at is hear me out on this

01:16:48.810 --> 01:16:51.369
one. You build all the infrastructure underground,

01:16:51.510 --> 01:16:53.770
but to get. it you have all these parks and beautiful

01:16:53.770 --> 01:16:56.130
areas and different things so that way when you

01:16:56.130 --> 01:16:58.850
want to walk from work to home or vice versa

01:16:58.850 --> 01:17:01.310
want to hang out you still have all of nature

01:17:01.310 --> 01:17:03.829
it basically looks like farmland on top so like

01:17:03.829 --> 01:17:07.689
the secret city under la yes but instead of being

01:17:07.689 --> 01:17:11.390
la it's farmland it's it's like nice greenery

01:17:11.390 --> 01:17:13.550
and you have parks and you need to have some

01:17:13.550 --> 01:17:16.210
homes if some people wanted like some like suburb

01:17:16.210 --> 01:17:18.729
kind of looking things on top okay so suburbia

01:17:18.729 --> 01:17:21.600
on top yeah Industrial hellscape underneath.

01:17:21.840 --> 01:17:25.300
I like that. Exactly. I like that. Yes. It doesn't

01:17:25.300 --> 01:17:26.739
have to be. It doesn't have to be a hellscape.

01:17:26.859 --> 01:17:31.119
It can be nice. I mean, you're putting it underground.

01:17:31.319 --> 01:17:33.239
You might as well just feed the beast. Go for

01:17:33.239 --> 01:17:35.619
it. I feel like I almost wanted to be. Full throttle.

01:17:36.920 --> 01:17:40.140
Let's do it. You just want this heat. Ultra hellscape.

01:17:40.420 --> 01:17:46.579
You just. Just do it. Let's do it. Send it. But

01:17:46.579 --> 01:17:48.960
that being said, I get what you mean, though.

01:17:49.410 --> 01:17:51.569
But I feel like there is a way where we could

01:17:51.569 --> 01:17:54.170
build into the side of mountains even or side

01:17:54.170 --> 01:17:56.449
of hills There's got to be a way of even if we

01:17:56.449 --> 01:17:58.590
just did like apartment complexes that were built

01:17:58.590 --> 01:18:01.529
into a pre -existing Hill that has like 40 or

01:18:01.529 --> 01:18:04.069
80 units or something like that Where at least

01:18:04.069 --> 01:18:05.409
you can have little windows coming out on the

01:18:05.409 --> 01:18:06.970
sides, but that way it's also that point It's

01:18:06.970 --> 01:18:09.109
basically tornado proof granted. Yes. You have

01:18:09.109 --> 01:18:10.590
to worry about flooding or something like that,

01:18:10.630 --> 01:18:14.029
but there's pros and cons earthquakes Okay, see

01:18:14.029 --> 01:18:20.979
that's the earthquake part is the one thing Motherfucker.

01:18:20.979 --> 01:18:24.600
2024 YR4, we're all dead. Look that one up. It's

01:18:24.600 --> 01:18:29.359
2025. We're already through 2024, so does it

01:18:29.359 --> 01:18:35.239
count? Yeah. We might have to do an episode on

01:18:35.239 --> 01:18:39.859
the potential impacts of 2024 YR4. Oh, potential.

01:18:40.060 --> 01:18:42.159
Yeah, I think we spoke a little bit about that.

01:18:42.539 --> 01:18:46.260
No, because this one was not found until like,

01:18:46.380 --> 01:18:50.729
you know, yeah. This is scary. It's not going

01:18:50.729 --> 01:18:56.130
to hit us. It's not going to hit us. We've at

01:18:56.130 --> 01:18:59.149
least confirmed that. No, it's going to hit the

01:18:59.149 --> 01:19:04.069
fucking moon. What? Yeah, that's the current

01:19:04.069 --> 01:19:07.649
track. Wait, whoa, wait a minute. How is this

01:19:07.649 --> 01:19:11.710
not? What? How have you not? How am I just now

01:19:11.710 --> 01:19:13.609
hearing about this? How big is the asteroid?

01:19:15.310 --> 01:19:20.609
Yeah, kind of, not small. all right well here's

01:19:20.609 --> 01:19:22.590
the thing not small to an ant is different not

01:19:22.590 --> 01:19:25.710
small to an elephant so like like like do you

01:19:25.710 --> 01:19:27.949
are you talking like the size of a bus are you

01:19:27.949 --> 01:19:29.810
talking like the size of manhattan but like like

01:19:29.810 --> 01:19:34.229
where are you where are you going with this 53

01:19:34.229 --> 01:19:41.529
to 67 meters oh okay um but if it hits the moon

01:19:41.529 --> 01:19:46.409
uh that's that's enough or big enough to cause

01:19:47.079 --> 01:19:51.100
significant damage to the moon which could then

01:19:51.100 --> 01:19:55.359
shotgun wait a minute debris from the moon how

01:19:55.359 --> 01:20:00.479
fast is this fucker traveling good god if something

01:20:00.479 --> 01:20:06.680
like 150 foot round can do that much damage also

01:20:06.680 --> 01:20:10.579
jesus christ if it does hit the moon oh great

01:20:10.579 --> 01:20:12.699
so now we're just gonna be pelted like fucking

01:20:12.699 --> 01:20:16.510
shotgun pellets I swear to God, if I finally

01:20:16.510 --> 01:20:18.430
get my life in order and get my house paid off

01:20:18.430 --> 01:20:20.369
and everything else like that, just to get wiped

01:20:20.369 --> 01:20:23.210
out by the moon, I'm going to build a fucking

01:20:23.210 --> 01:20:26.890
killdozer. I'm going to lose my shit. I'm going

01:20:26.890 --> 01:20:29.369
to be the angriest motherfucker alive. Yeah.

01:20:30.789 --> 01:20:35.810
2032 is the suspected date. So what I'm hearing

01:20:35.810 --> 01:20:44.029
is I got like six years to somehow. asteroid

01:20:44.029 --> 01:20:54.210
proof my house hmm ah yes so my fund for traveling

01:20:54.210 --> 01:20:59.449
on vacations actually become a cannon fund yeah

01:20:59.449 --> 01:21:02.229
I'm gonna need a lot of German 88s with some

01:21:02.229 --> 01:21:05.989
flack rounds let me tell you every out there

01:21:05.989 --> 01:21:08.729
looking like a fat German of World War two just

01:21:11.430 --> 01:21:14.909
It looks like it could be expected to impact

01:21:14.909 --> 01:21:18.189
anywhere between 37 ,000 and 60 ,000 kilometers

01:21:18.189 --> 01:21:23.149
an hour. Oh. So, you know, got a little bit of

01:21:23.149 --> 01:21:25.409
ass on it. I was going to say, I believe the

01:21:25.409 --> 01:21:31.130
scientific notation on that is hauling ass. That

01:21:31.130 --> 01:21:34.310
is moving. Have you ever thought about pulling

01:21:34.310 --> 01:21:39.229
like a... just like shooting a nuke at it or

01:21:39.229 --> 01:21:40.810
something so at least it breaks up before it

01:21:40.810 --> 01:21:46.390
hits the moon yeah they might try something like

01:21:46.390 --> 01:21:48.750
that because we have enough warning but I don't

01:21:48.750 --> 01:21:54.470
know god yeah this episode has gone everywhere

01:21:54.470 --> 01:22:03.130
that's how it usually goes though so final thoughts

01:22:03.130 --> 01:22:07.079
on Living in a mega city building like an old

01:22:07.079 --> 01:22:11.140
gutted Amazon warehouse that's been rebuilt to

01:22:11.140 --> 01:22:15.939
have your work site where you live. What do you

01:22:15.939 --> 01:22:19.579
think? Yay or nay? It depends on how it's done.

01:22:20.659 --> 01:22:24.720
It could be great. I honestly think that's like

01:22:24.720 --> 01:22:28.500
the general consensus for most things. It really

01:22:28.500 --> 01:22:32.539
just depends on how it's done. I feel like there's

01:22:32.539 --> 01:22:34.500
a way that we have to leverage tax incentives

01:22:34.500 --> 01:22:37.000
in order to force companies to do it the right

01:22:37.000 --> 01:22:39.979
way. But I feel like most people in cities are

01:22:39.979 --> 01:22:42.840
so focused on making taxes even higher that they're

01:22:42.840 --> 01:22:44.420
going to basically force people to be indentured

01:22:44.420 --> 01:22:46.300
servants to that company and then be forced to

01:22:46.300 --> 01:22:47.979
live there and basically be like company run

01:22:47.979 --> 01:22:51.199
like slumlords is where I feel like this is going

01:22:51.199 --> 01:22:54.739
to go. And slumlords and high crime are like

01:22:54.739 --> 01:22:58.840
and drug like. Yeah. High drug use, high prostitution,

01:22:58.880 --> 01:23:01.399
everything. Those are like the biggest concerns

01:23:01.399 --> 01:23:06.140
for those type of dwelling layouts, residency

01:23:06.140 --> 01:23:11.039
layouts. You have to have a high presence of

01:23:11.039 --> 01:23:17.640
some kind of community policing. So that's something

01:23:17.640 --> 01:23:20.239
to keep in mind when you're designing these kinds

01:23:20.239 --> 01:23:24.319
of things. It's good. But hey, with AI and bots

01:23:24.319 --> 01:23:27.060
everywhere, I mean. Maybe we don't have to worry

01:23:27.060 --> 01:23:28.300
about it. I can tell you right now it's going

01:23:28.300 --> 01:23:29.720
to become the case of it's going to be a massive

01:23:29.720 --> 01:23:31.899
camera network with AI listening and watching

01:23:31.899 --> 01:23:34.680
all the time in public areas. That way AI will

01:23:34.680 --> 01:23:37.619
report crimes as they're happening or even when

01:23:37.619 --> 01:23:39.460
someone's yelling. And just dispatch the judges

01:23:39.460 --> 01:23:41.979
everywhere with their sidearms. That's the only

01:23:41.979 --> 01:23:44.020
thing that concerns me is something I was thinking

01:23:44.020 --> 01:23:46.239
about too is what if because all these buildings

01:23:46.239 --> 01:23:48.579
and lands are private, what if it's privately

01:23:48.579 --> 01:23:51.989
run security? Private security? Like, imagine,

01:23:52.069 --> 01:23:53.430
let's just say, theoretically, you live in a

01:23:53.430 --> 01:23:56.850
major city, you work at Amazon location 10, where

01:23:56.850 --> 01:23:59.569
the warehouse is below you, and then on the middle

01:23:59.569 --> 01:24:01.689
floor are the commercial offices that Amazon

01:24:01.689 --> 01:24:04.850
feeds into, and then you live on top. What happens

01:24:04.850 --> 01:24:06.289
if you're like, hey, my neighbor three doors

01:24:06.289 --> 01:24:09.329
down sexually harassed me? Does Amazon send out

01:24:09.329 --> 01:24:13.409
the fucking Kill Dread 9000 to go interrogate

01:24:13.409 --> 01:24:17.310
the neighbor? Like, how does this work? Will

01:24:17.310 --> 01:24:19.069
they fight to be able to have their own jurisdictions?

01:24:20.720 --> 01:24:24.859
They might. And I mean, honestly, if you've got

01:24:24.859 --> 01:24:27.359
a building that has a population of like 5 ,000,

01:24:27.539 --> 01:24:31.720
it might be required. So here's, this is my other

01:24:31.720 --> 01:24:34.020
part of my thing. It's like, is it going to become

01:24:34.020 --> 01:24:35.979
to where like these massive, these mega buildings

01:24:35.979 --> 01:24:38.319
are going to be basically their own little towns

01:24:38.319 --> 01:24:41.489
that basically function independently? which

01:24:41.489 --> 01:24:43.310
actually would almost have to be, which in a

01:24:43.310 --> 01:24:45.390
way could be good if they had their own governmental

01:24:45.390 --> 01:24:46.930
structure and their own things. And they just

01:24:46.930 --> 01:24:49.989
all kind of work together until they devolve

01:24:49.989 --> 01:24:53.529
and turn into gang run buildings. This is the

01:24:53.529 --> 01:24:56.670
other problem is absolutely until you get the

01:24:56.670 --> 01:24:58.590
one guy in there that owns all the guns. It's

01:24:58.590 --> 01:25:00.409
like, Oh, thanks for hoarding all these supplies

01:25:00.409 --> 01:25:03.050
for me. I appreciate it. You know, you did the

01:25:03.050 --> 01:25:05.369
hard work for me. I will make sure to kill you

01:25:05.369 --> 01:25:08.170
quickly. Like it just, this could all go very

01:25:08.170 --> 01:25:13.500
right or very wrong. Very quickly. All I can

01:25:13.500 --> 01:25:15.340
say is just every one of those buildings would

01:25:15.340 --> 01:25:17.180
end just as being underground strip clubs and

01:25:17.180 --> 01:25:21.399
drug dens. That's all it would be. Hell yes.

01:25:21.479 --> 01:25:23.619
That's a great place to be on a Friday night.

01:25:26.039 --> 01:25:27.979
It's literally just going to be the cities that

01:25:27.979 --> 01:25:30.819
are owned by Amazon, Costco, Target, and Walmart,

01:25:30.960 --> 01:25:33.840
and just going to have those four competing factions.

01:25:34.079 --> 01:25:36.930
Will there eventually be faction warfare? Like

01:25:36.930 --> 01:25:39.029
Target tries to take over this district. And

01:25:39.029 --> 01:25:40.909
then eventually every restaurant becomes Taco

01:25:40.909 --> 01:25:44.750
Bell like in Demolition Man. I don't know how

01:25:44.750 --> 01:25:48.550
Taco Bell would win. Be well. Honestly, it would

01:25:48.550 --> 01:25:50.189
have to be McDonald's because they have the highest.

01:25:51.930 --> 01:25:55.090
Well, yeah, but Taco Bell didn't require meat.

01:25:55.510 --> 01:25:58.710
They have vegetarian options. Oh, so that's why

01:25:58.710 --> 01:26:01.109
Taco Bell won. Wow. I didn't think about that.

01:26:01.170 --> 01:26:03.729
I haven't seen Demolition Man in a while. Yeah.

01:26:04.170 --> 01:26:08.090
Worth a watch. You know, as time goes on, it's

01:26:08.090 --> 01:26:12.689
becoming more and more relevant. Scary. Demolition

01:26:12.689 --> 01:26:16.630
Man, Idiocracy. Fahrenheit 451, read the book.

01:26:18.090 --> 01:26:20.449
That is the one that would make you the most

01:26:20.449 --> 01:26:21.770
depressed, by the way. I'm just letting people

01:26:21.770 --> 01:26:25.789
know. If you're a thinker, you are not going

01:26:25.789 --> 01:26:29.670
to like yourself after reading that book. Yeah.

01:26:30.630 --> 01:26:33.899
But worth a read. Don't watch the movie. The

01:26:33.899 --> 01:26:36.420
movie's not great. Don't watch that. But the

01:26:36.420 --> 01:26:39.819
book is good. Yeah. If you're not a fan of reading,

01:26:39.939 --> 01:26:42.520
at least do the audiobook. I haven't tried the

01:26:42.520 --> 01:26:43.760
audiobook with it. I'll have to look that up.

01:26:45.520 --> 01:26:52.159
I gotta get into that more. Yeah. So. But yeah.

01:26:53.819 --> 01:26:57.300
That's Cities of the Future for us. Any thoughts

01:26:57.300 --> 01:27:01.659
that we missed? It could be horrible. It could

01:27:01.659 --> 01:27:05.939
be awesome. It could be just another utopian

01:27:05.939 --> 01:27:11.300
dream that falls into disarray and cannibalistic

01:27:11.300 --> 01:27:17.579
paradise, you know? Jesus Christ. You know, so

01:27:17.579 --> 01:27:19.979
here's what you need to... Fuck, Society 25,

01:27:20.260 --> 01:27:23.359
I think it was. Or Universe 25 or something.

01:27:23.659 --> 01:27:25.840
There's an experiment that was done with rats.

01:27:30.839 --> 01:27:35.279
it was set up to where the rats were given everything

01:27:35.279 --> 01:27:38.479
they needed and like it was a utopian society

01:27:38.479 --> 01:27:42.180
for the rats and they just laid around they they

01:27:42.180 --> 01:27:46.439
just had sex all day and they just lived their

01:27:46.439 --> 01:27:49.260
lives and had fun and it devolved into utter

01:27:49.260 --> 01:27:53.960
cannibalistic chaos And it was horrifying. And

01:27:53.960 --> 01:27:56.039
they didn't just do this once. They did it like

01:27:56.039 --> 01:27:59.119
over and over and over. And it was the same exact

01:27:59.119 --> 01:28:04.060
result every single time. As soon as there was

01:28:04.060 --> 01:28:05.920
no purpose. I got to find that. And there was

01:28:05.920 --> 01:28:07.460
nothing to strive for and there was no purpose.

01:28:07.520 --> 01:28:10.659
There was no meaning. Chaos finds a way. Oh,

01:28:10.680 --> 01:28:15.579
yeah. So that's something to kind of keep in

01:28:15.579 --> 01:28:18.220
mind with this. But yeah, I think we hit all

01:28:18.220 --> 01:28:21.859
the points that we wanted to. To hit for this.

01:28:21.979 --> 01:28:24.579
So I guess my final word would be look at if

01:28:24.579 --> 01:28:27.220
you're near a local major city, start looking

01:28:27.220 --> 01:28:28.920
at some of the policies being proposed with things

01:28:28.920 --> 01:28:31.060
like taxing people to get in and out of your

01:28:31.060 --> 01:28:34.640
city, trying to remove vehicles or private transportation,

01:28:34.920 --> 01:28:37.460
starting to force people to use public transportation

01:28:37.460 --> 01:28:41.020
only. Even things like not allowing certain people

01:28:41.020 --> 01:28:42.720
to be able to buy land or certain companies,

01:28:42.739 --> 01:28:44.699
not people to do certain things. This is something

01:28:44.699 --> 01:28:46.500
to where it's starting to affect many of the

01:28:46.500 --> 01:28:48.579
major cities in small ways, but it's starting

01:28:48.579 --> 01:28:51.039
to become very public. So a lot of things that

01:28:51.039 --> 01:28:53.520
we're talking about now are going to be very,

01:28:53.640 --> 01:28:58.039
very, very mainstream pretty soon. I'm already

01:28:58.039 --> 01:29:01.619
seeing it. Just like New York City, they instituted

01:29:01.619 --> 01:29:04.000
a policy that you have to pay to get into New

01:29:04.000 --> 01:29:08.039
York City. Yeah, fuck that. Yep. That's what

01:29:08.039 --> 01:29:13.100
everyone said. Yep. Gotta love congestion pricing.

01:29:13.460 --> 01:29:17.800
It's great. Surge pricing. But it's for travel.

01:29:17.840 --> 01:29:23.020
Oh, God. That, nothing. Whoever thought about

01:29:23.020 --> 01:29:27.380
surge pricing, I'll show you a surge price. This

01:29:27.380 --> 01:29:32.760
one's for free. Let me tell you. Oh, man. Whoever

01:29:32.760 --> 01:29:35.340
thought about that, Jesus Christ. Whoever's the

01:29:35.340 --> 01:29:37.640
asshole that thought about surge pricing and

01:29:37.640 --> 01:29:39.159
then when a hurricane comes and water's going

01:29:39.159 --> 01:29:44.140
to be $5 ,000 for a bottle. Yeah, I've got a

01:29:44.140 --> 01:29:48.510
special. Discount for them. Yeah. Yeah. These

01:29:48.510 --> 01:29:57.390
hands identify as unisex. No way. Oh, yeah. But

01:29:57.390 --> 01:30:00.229
I'm sure we'll talk about that when that becomes

01:30:00.229 --> 01:30:06.850
a thing. Oh, yeah. Oh, man. Yeah. Is there anything

01:30:06.850 --> 01:30:08.430
that we really missed on this one? Is there any?

01:30:09.489 --> 01:30:17.930
No, no, no. We hit all the points. Share the

01:30:17.930 --> 01:30:20.829
episodes with your friends. Want to see some

01:30:20.829 --> 01:30:22.310
more engagement? Want to see some more listens?

01:30:23.970 --> 01:30:28.350
We're hitting some really weird numbers. So I'm

01:30:28.350 --> 01:30:32.489
trying to see what's going on. If I have to start

01:30:32.489 --> 01:30:35.649
broadcasting while in a pool of mayonnaise and

01:30:35.649 --> 01:30:40.390
a Speedo, I will. I want to try to get some more

01:30:40.390 --> 01:30:42.430
numbers so that I don't have to do that. You'd

01:30:42.430 --> 01:30:46.210
end up smelling like mayonnaise for weeks. I

01:30:46.210 --> 01:30:50.890
don't care. I'll do that for the show. That is

01:30:50.890 --> 01:30:53.329
my own form of hell, by the way. I don't like

01:30:53.329 --> 01:30:55.710
mayonnaise. So just the thought of randomly getting

01:30:55.710 --> 01:30:57.350
a whiff of mayonnaise throughout the day and

01:30:57.350 --> 01:30:58.649
you can't figure out where it's from. I'll be

01:30:58.649 --> 01:31:00.670
like, I kill this. I can't even say that. I can't

01:31:00.670 --> 01:31:04.630
even say that. I can't. I would cease to exist

01:31:04.630 --> 01:31:07.470
is the diplomatic way I can say that. Okay, you

01:31:07.470 --> 01:31:10.260
know what? I'll compromise. I'll start with whipped

01:31:10.260 --> 01:31:16.119
cream. Okay. I will wear a Speedo and do a little

01:31:16.119 --> 01:31:20.079
pool of whipped cream. From like right back here.

01:31:20.260 --> 01:31:21.319
But you're going to get the pasties with the

01:31:21.319 --> 01:31:22.640
tassels on them though. If I have to. You're

01:31:22.640 --> 01:31:24.760
going to get the tassel pasties, you know. I

01:31:24.760 --> 01:31:30.520
will. I will do that. If I have to do that to

01:31:30.520 --> 01:31:32.460
drive some viewership for the show, I will do

01:31:32.460 --> 01:31:35.579
that. But then I expect you to do something as

01:31:35.579 --> 01:31:40.210
equally crazy and unhinged. So we need to start

01:31:40.210 --> 01:31:42.489
driving some viewership and some downloads. Oh,

01:31:42.489 --> 01:31:45.770
Jesus. Yeah, Carly, tell him. Tell him, Carly.

01:31:45.810 --> 01:31:51.729
Oh, Jesus Christ. You hear her? I'd have to find

01:31:51.729 --> 01:31:56.210
out something crazy to do, you know? Yeah. Yes,

01:31:56.470 --> 01:31:59.329
Gibbs shaves his head. You know. I think that's

01:31:59.329 --> 01:32:02.630
a good suggestion. You know, 30's been hitting

01:32:02.630 --> 01:32:06.119
me hard this year. That did not help my self

01:32:06.119 --> 01:32:08.079
-confidence. Thank you, buddy. I appreciate it.

01:32:08.100 --> 01:32:12.100
I know the hairline's receding. I get it. I get

01:32:12.100 --> 01:32:15.479
it. It's okay. Maybe I'll... I don't know. I'll

01:32:15.479 --> 01:32:19.180
find a way. Yeah. You know what I could do? I

01:32:19.180 --> 01:32:20.600
could do an entire episode. I'll paint myself

01:32:20.600 --> 01:32:25.539
green and talk like Kermit the Frog. That'd be

01:32:25.539 --> 01:32:28.819
funny. What do we have here in these major cities?

01:32:30.100 --> 01:32:33.649
Oh, yeah. I have something with that. See, I

01:32:33.649 --> 01:32:36.710
do have to address chat. They just said embrace

01:32:36.710 --> 01:32:39.649
the receding hairline. My thought is if anybody's

01:32:39.649 --> 01:32:41.229
ever watched Dragon Ball Z, I will eventually

01:32:41.229 --> 01:32:44.210
go full Vegeta and just have the receding hairline

01:32:44.210 --> 01:32:47.369
that goes all the way back. Anybody that knows

01:32:47.369 --> 01:32:48.989
Dragon Ball Z, just look up Vegeta and you'll

01:32:48.989 --> 01:32:53.729
see. Or just pull off the Picard look. Here's

01:32:53.729 --> 01:32:57.050
the problem. Picard was small in French. He can

01:32:57.050 --> 01:33:00.020
do the bald. My problem is I'm a fat American.

01:33:00.140 --> 01:33:01.560
I'm just going to look like a thumb with two

01:33:01.560 --> 01:33:04.520
thumbs. It's not going to work. I'm a hairy thumb

01:33:04.520 --> 01:33:06.159
with two thumbs. It's going to look fucking weird.

01:33:06.760 --> 01:33:10.180
I got to figure out what I'm... That's the problem

01:33:10.180 --> 01:33:11.899
is I'm going to lose the hair up there. I got

01:33:11.899 --> 01:33:13.119
to figure out more what I'm going to do down

01:33:13.119 --> 01:33:20.619
here. It's got to work. I mean, okay. Butterbean

01:33:20.619 --> 01:33:23.939
with a beard, I could possibly see. That's also

01:33:23.939 --> 01:33:27.500
insulting. I appreciate... Butterbean's a badass,

01:33:27.600 --> 01:33:33.859
though. Or he was. Yeah, it wasn't a good term

01:33:33.859 --> 01:33:39.279
with that. Oh, man. Geriatric Butterbean versus

01:33:39.279 --> 01:33:49.560
Geriatric Tyson. Oh, Jesus. Goddamn. All right.

01:33:49.579 --> 01:33:51.979
Well, I think we can go ahead and cut the show.

01:33:52.119 --> 01:33:58.329
We hit all the points. Share the episodes. Try

01:33:58.329 --> 01:34:02.029
to get your friends involved. We do love you

01:34:02.029 --> 01:34:04.409
guys. We appreciate your hanging out with us.

01:34:05.090 --> 01:34:08.369
And hopefully we got some good stuff coming down

01:34:08.369 --> 01:34:13.850
the pipe that's not just warm and sticky. Wrong

01:34:13.850 --> 01:34:19.250
show. Well, maybe for some people it's the right

01:34:19.250 --> 01:34:21.850
show. That's supposed to be behind the paywall.

01:34:21.930 --> 01:34:26.199
You can't give that to them for free. Well. I

01:34:26.199 --> 01:34:27.399
got to tease him a little bit. All right, fair

01:34:27.399 --> 01:34:30.000
enough. Tease it in there a little bit. That's

01:34:30.000 --> 01:34:35.060
fine. Fair enough. Fair enough. So, all right.

01:34:35.060 --> 01:34:37.579
Well, we love you guys. Thanks for hanging out.

01:34:38.279 --> 01:34:40.159
And we'll see you all next time.