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you private sessions with a therapist and new
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Those give you STDs and trauma. And usually you
learn a new swear word or something like that
or something funny. The only word I learned was
no. Anyways, I am your host, Gibbs, and along
with me is my co -host, Pip. Yeah, and this week
we got it right. He is Gibbs and I am Pip. I
know. Thank God. It was scary being here for
30 seconds. Right? I know, just... Talk about
that trauma. I can't, that's the problem. There
are no therapists licensed in that around here.
But, anyways. So today we want to take it a little
bit of a different direction with the podcast.
And since it's becoming very clear, there's a
lot of like smaller topics that might not necessarily
warrant an entire episode. So what we're going
to do is do a bit of a variety episode here where
we each picked a couple of topics that were tickling
our tism. And that way we can discuss that and
have a little bit of fun and have a few jokes
along the way. Twas the tism, my lord. Show us
the tism. I think that's relatively evident in
the show. I'm just... Literally, every other
thing we do is basically just watch as I do a
tism. Pretty much. But hey, you gotta have some
fun, right? Gotta enjoy life. But anyway, so
I think the first topic here that we wanted to
discuss... which I know was definitely something
that you have been vigorously discussing. Drones.
Yes. Yes. But before we get into the topic, I
want to go ahead and let everyone know the four
main topics we're going to discuss. Oh, okay.
Just as a little. Yes. I want to spoil this just
a tiny bit. I normally don't do spoilers. What's
that? You have to tease them. You just want to
tease them. Just a little tease. I do want to
tickle the. Just a little tease, you know. Just
tickle the tip a little bit. We're going to talk
about drones. We're going to talk about some
advancements in robots tonight. The new AI -powered
video agents and services like VO3 and some of
the ultra -realistic deepfake videos that have
come out of it. And then we're going to dance
the little divider line and get a little political.
The Trump and Elon breakup. The bromance has
ended. We're going to discuss a few things about
that. However, before we get into that, there
are a couple of honorable mentions that we wanted
to get into. We are recording this show on June
the 8th. As of today, Los Angeles is more or
less, well, southern Los Angeles, I believe,
is still more or less on fire. Riots and looting
and other shenaniganry. are in process thanks
to folks of questionable legal status engaging
in, shall we say, physical altercations with
federal agents. I don't think that's going to
turn out well, no matter how you shake a stick
at it. The National Guard has been deployed,
so grab the popcorn and pull up a chair. This
is going to play out the way it's going to play
out. The second honorable mention we had was
the discovery of Chinese agro -terrorism this
week. I did not have that one on my bingo card.
How about you, Gibbs? No, I'll be honest. That
was probably on row 37 -E, somewhere in there
on my list, because there's no way. Subsection
24? Yeah. Yeah, about, give or take. But as you
had mentioned before we went live, a hidden underground
lab, where was it? It was in California. In California,
of all places. Mind you, all this has just come
out in the last few hours, you know, on the 8th.
So it's possible by the time this airs tomorrow
and it comes out between Monday and Tuesday,
typically that's when the stories are picked
back up. There could be a lot more information,
but as far as we know today, last week there
was a... Exactly. At the time of recording, we
know that there was basically Chinese CCP sympathizers
that were... arrested a guy there was a guy that
worked um university of michigan thank you i
was trying to remember the university uh basically
they were going to try to release and they had
in their possession um i don't know if they said
exactly what type of um they did name the phone
it was a virus it was a fungus and if released
it could have devastated the food supply uh i
think it was 40 to 60 percent of our national
crop could have been potentially affected there
is a gas that's put off by the decomp of the
crops that is hazardous to humans so that's something
that i when when we did our um the end of the
world as we know it episode that was not even
on our radar that's how low of a possibility
and and checkbox that is on the list like we
cover some pretty out there shit Oh, yeah, but
something like that is very mutually assured
destruction type of thing because that would
inevitably get to everywhere in the world. That's
not something that would just stay in the U .S.
Oh, yeah, no. Because think about it, by the
time it's detected, it would have already been
transported across the world. We provide a lot
of the world's grain, people don't realize, and
we grow a shit ton of stuff. So the fact that
there was even a question of that getting out
there, hmm. And that's insane. And mind you,
what's crazy to think about is how much stuff
has been out there now. Like, put aside COVID
and everything else that happened with that.
How many different strains of different viruses
and different things or different ailments where
this has happened before or something else has
been influenced or affected? That's kind of crazy.
But it boggles my mind that they could have created
that without the U .S. government even having
an inkling of knowing. But apparently they somehow
did. It's a good thing, though. it's a good thing
that they got caught because if that did get
out, we would be in such a bad shape. And honestly,
that coming out and coming to light just reemphasizes
the whole, you need to have food stores on hand
at least a month worth, probably more, but you
got to take care of you and yours. Definitely
reference our prepping episode on that. Cause
we're both pretty into that stuff. And, uh, Self
-sufficiency, self -reliance. It's becoming a
necessity nowadays. But that was insane, as well
as the other information is that linked to that,
there apparently is an underground lab that's
run by the CCP and or sponsored by the CCP, China,
that's in California, that's loosely linked to
some of the universities there. So we're still
waiting more information, but... Seems like every
time we turn around, the CCP are linked to something.
The Chinese government is linked to something
that has to do with our medical infrastructure.
And it's terrifying. Should be zero involvement.
The fact that there's even 0 .1 % is ridiculous,
let alone anything. The one thing, and I'll try
to keep this brief, but the last thing I want
to talk on this point was this was a fungus that
was going to affect crops. How much farmland
does China own? That is also next to a lot of
our military bases. Just those, those two facts
together kind of emphasize that there is way
too much foreign involvement in our country and
key areas that needs to stop. Like I'm, I'm okay
with foreign investment to a point, but there
are some industries that need to be off limits.
You know, the majority of countries in the world
do not allow foreigners to own land. You can
own like a condo. You're like, that's fine. But
they don't allow people to own land, which is
interesting. And I think we should be on that
bandwagon. You know, we're quickly coming to
that point to where that's going to be necessary.
So, I don't know. It's crazy, but we just wanted
to touch on that before we got rolling with the
podcast. Last thing quickly, and this wasn't
in the notes, the new strain of COVID is out.
Yay! A .K .A. New Strain of the Flu, Part 2,
Electric Boogaloo. I don't know. It's just going
to be another cold. Two weeks to flatten the
curve, right? Dude, that worked out well. You
know what, though? I will admit, I will say I
think those two weeks were probably the two most
peaceful weeks of my entire life because we all
got on, hung out, played video games, watched
movies, hung out with each other. Oh, yeah. And
then after those two weeks, it was like, oh,
wait, this is... Life again. Oh, no. Oh, no.
It's almost. I will say, I remember when our
buddies sent pictures of California and you could
see like over the cities in California. I know.
It's incredible. So that was kind of cool. Like
letting nature. Yeah. It was nice that they weren't
breathing pure smog. That's crazy. All those
emissions laws in California. And it somehow
still doesn't matter. Right. Yeah. It's almost
like that's not causing most of the pollution.
Yeah. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. But to get into the meat
and taters for tonight, we will drive into the
drones. And one of the things I want to talk
about first was the drone revolution from warfare
to your wallet. Drone technology is advancing
at quite an exponential rate. We're seeing significant
improvements in flight time and range thanks
to new battery technology, more efficient design,
material science is advanced, so drones can fly
for longer distances. You can get more bang for
your buck out of drones these days. I thought
you were going to ask a question. I'm sorry.
Well, what I was going to say, one of the things
I was reading, I was watching a couple of videos
and reading a couple of articles. A lot of it
has to do with the efficiency of the engines
as well as the propeller designs. And really,
it's a lot of it's a thrust to weight ratio where
they're able to make these drones so light now
and the engine so powerful and all of it so cheap.
Yes. That you're talking for a few hundred, even
a few thousand dollars. You got drones that can
carry enough. Not even that. Because we can 3D
print a lot of these drones, too. Yeah. So there's
that. The autonomy and AI, thanks to our wonderful
AI overlords, drones are getting smarter and
they're being enabled to navigate complex environments.
They can identify objects and even make decisions
without direct human control. There was a TV
show or a movie, I think it was called Killbots.
And I think most people have seen the little
reel where the guy's on stage and he holds up
the little microbot. And it's got facial recognition
technology and a little micro charge, shape charge.
And he wings it out into the crowd and it buzzes
around and then it finds the mannequin and it
smacks the mannequin on the head and detonates
the shape charge. That was like a five or eight
year old video. We now have that technology.
Good God, no. Collectively, it may not be in
a single unit today. Collectively speaking, we
now have all of that technology at hand. What
scares me more is less that the U .S. government
or that any one government has it, but the fact
that when terrorists get their hands on that
kind of stuff, that's going to fucking suck.
Yeah. We are opening that Pandora's box that
unfortunately can never be closed, and it's going
to get really messy. Yeah. So, man. This is getting
good. Swarming technology. China has been nice
at showing this one off. The ability of multiple
drones to operate in a coordinated swarm has
proven to be an absolute game changer for both
military and commercial applications. Ukraine,
what was it, last week, proved the effectiveness
of drones in a swarm in combat situations, taking
out, I believe it's been confirmed now, a third
of Russia's strategic air power. yep so they
did that with drones in um trucks 18 wheelers
they stuck them into the country and that brings
up i'm going to talk about that in more detail
but that brings up a point that a lot of war
war planners are literally just being kept awake
at night because that can literally happen anywhere
any country that's got loose borders that's kind
of got issues. Oh, God, that sounds familiar.
Not only that, but especially if you've got countries
even outside of America that do not have sophisticated
radar systems or surveillance systems. You cannot
stop drone swarms like that. I mean, I'm sure
there's a way. You cannot deploy only if you
have to have heads up and you have to have the
systems in place. But we don't have... Phalanx
systems on every corner in America. We don't
have anti -drone technology on every building
in America. That's literally the only way you
can stop those things. And we just do not have
the infrastructure to stop a drone swarm attack
like that. No. It's not feasible. It's not economically
viable. We have the capabilities. We can stop
them. If they're in the area that the anti -drone
technology is in. This makes me really question.
Do you remember? And I know this seems like a
forever ago in news time. Do you remember those
big drones that were flying over the East Coast
like four months ago, five months ago? Yeah.
I'm starting to really wonder how interconnected
all this is with the drone technology. How that
happened and we were starting to mess with drones
and now just it seems to escalate. it's almost
going an exponential path now that we have access
to ai that can run localized that now that we've
had gpus that have these dedicated ai processing
cores and now the military is using them it almost
seems to me that this even the rudimentary ai
that can run on a single or couple of gpus are
going to be powerful enough to where these drones
that they are going to be the new sleeper cells
at this point, to where they're going to be able
to set up these drones and activate them remotely
and already have pre -designed targets, pre -designated
destinations, and they will be able to actively
avoid and evade is going to be the next step,
and that's going to be the huge problem, especially
if all it takes is one bioweapon. If all it takes...
Yeah, because drone payloads, they can be equipped
with more than just cameras now. They can be
equipped with firearms. They can be equipped
with rocket launchers. They can be equipped with
gas dispensers. They can be equipped with all
kinds of stuff. There were some drones I was
watching in Ukraine. They can hold up to anywhere
between 25 to 50 pounds, depending on how big
the drone is. And I mean, that's not a small
amount of explosives if they wanted to go that
route. Well, that's what I was going to say.
It's like in military terms, typically we usually
see, you know, if you're using from a bomber
or some sort of fighter, I mean, typically 250
pounds is like the smaller scale. But that's
usually take out like an entire building. Whereas
like if you're talking 25 to 50 pounds, that's
something to where if you're trying to take out
specific targets or enlarge swarms, take out
whole areas. If you're just trying to carpet
bomb, that's incredibly effective. Yeah. And
those the swarms that have been on display from
China. Thousands. They're used for air display
shows. Imagine if every one of those was carrying
a five kilogram. 12 -pound charge. Because one
of those will destroy your car, basically, effectively.
If you were in your car and that drops on it,
you're done. Yeah, you could effectively level
the working potential of a major city. Well,
not only that, but considering, too, if you fly
over things like any sort of intelligence centers,
the U .S. Capitol, anywhere else like that. Power
plants. Yeah, infrastructure. I mean, Jesus.
Data centers. Yeah. You could cripple entire
areas of a country in the matter of hours by
having several different swarms all refineries.
Yeah. And mind you, there's a lot of stuff in
America. The issue we have is a lot of the components
for these things are not made here. A lot of
those components are made in other countries.
So the issue might be, hey, we can get some things
working, but a lot of stuff, particularly electrical,
we don't have here. So it would be, hey, this
power plant's now down for six months to a year
or sometimes even more. Or if it is made here,
it takes so long. Like for power plants, some
of the main big components are made here, but
they're four, six, eight months lead time. So
that's always been one of the talking points
for if there's massive grid failures, we can
get the grid back up eventually. It's going to
take a long time to manufacture the parts that
get blown out. I mean, look what's happening
after North Carolina, even after that hurricane
that came through there. Oh, yeah. How long has
that been now? Four months, six months, something
like that. I don't know. When did it happen?
Oh, God. What was the name of that hurricane?
Helene? Oh, boy. Oh, boy. We're both screwing
the pooch on this one. Oh, geez. That was a lot.
Hurricane Helene. September 24th of 24. Yeah,
buddy. Maybe eight months ago. Yeah. God damn.
If, if it was hurricane Helena, I think it was,
it is. Yeah. That was September 24th of 2024.
And they're still not recovered. No. So, yeah.
But, uh, so in, in, in continuing the, the pace
on, on the drones, the war in Ukraine has shown
what the future of conflict is going to look
like. Um, We may not be fighting wars with boots
on the ground. It's going to be a drone conflict,
potentially. So whoever has the best drones,
the most capable drones, the most maneuverable
drones, looks like that's probably going to be
who wins the war. It's also going to be a war
of intelligence as well. Oh, absolutely. Because
it's going to be data collection, intelligence,
and then drones, pretty much. I was listening
to, he was on the Unsubscribe podcast with Brandon
Herrera and the rest of them. And he was talking
about how the military is trying to shift to
a less of an idea of boots on the ground and
more about using drones and machinery and things
like that, too, instead of putting lives at risk,
which is very interesting because they're just
now in the last couple of years trying to make
that big switch. Well, that's because the technology
is finally there. Oh, yeah. I mean, we've been
lagging behind a lot in the drone technology.
So the strike against Russia kind of shows how
effective cheap drones can be. I don't have the
numbers, and I wish I could find a better thing,
but the cost of the drones that they used to
take out Russia's strategic fleet, I want to
say they probably used around $100 ,000 worth
of drones. And they removed $6 billion worth
of Russia's strategic assets. Now, I do want
to interject a little bit because I did see that
the drone, I don't know which ones Ukraine's
using, but I know the ones that we're using that
can run somewhat autonomously are roughly 50
,000 each. So it could be, you know, even a million
dollars worth of drones, depending if they're
the nice ones. I don't know which ones they use,
if they're the cheap ones. But that being said,
that ratio is still insane. That is incredible.
Also, the planes they took out aren't exactly
being made anymore either. Well, Russia has massive
manufacturing issues, so they've barely been
able to afford their own military for over a
decade. Yeah. It's like, yeah, they have a lot,
but a lot of it was built 10, 20 years ago or
designed 10, 20 years ago. Exactly. So, yeah,
the losses that Russia incurred are going to
be felt for quite a while. And then they did
just retaliate, too. They launched some retaliatory
attacks on population centers in Kiev. Kiev.
Yeah. So there were some strikes there. It wasn't
as bad as it could have been. They were able
to shoot down some of the munitions, but yeah.
The new FPV drones, first -person view drones.
Those are the ones that are the super agile ones
that they use in races and such, the VR -enabled
headsets. They're extremely agile and very inexpensive.
They can be used as weapons and also intelligence
gathering. So you can use them to target, you
can use them to laze for other munitions. And
again, they're very inexpensive. You can build
those things for $50, $60. And the nice thing
about those ones, too, is because they're much
smaller, also much quieter. Yes. You can get
them up to a few hundred feet. You really can't
hear them. No one. That was that was always the
problem with previous generations of drones were
loud. Yeah, they were fucking loud as shit. And
they had no stealth capability. Whereas now you're
seeing some drones. So I was watching some videos
from the from the front lines to where Ukrainians
are able to get the drones in like 50 to 100
feet. Oh, yeah. Of the soldiers. And there's
nothing they can do because by the time they
turn around to see him, they get smacked in the
face with five pounds of fuck you. Yeah. So both
Russia and Ukraine, as well as many other countries,
China, the U .S., Poland, Germany, France, England,
all are heavily investing in drone technology,
leading to a new rapid cycle of innovation and
countermeasures. So we're going to find out real
quick what gets deployed to the battlefield and
what this next phase of warfare is going to look
like with drones. Outside the battlefield, though,
the commercial boom for drones, a lot of companies
are trying to use them for last mile of delivery
and even whole mile delivery, if that's the correct
phrase. Amazon. uh pizza places are trying to
do drones from distribution to customer pickup
taking the humans right out of the equation so
there go more jobs yay well hey now is the time
if you want to get into drone maintenance or
drone technicians or anything like that oh yeah
literally get into it now learn how to work on
all of them find the ones they're gonna get the
contracts to and see if you can get a service
contract, you're going to make so much money.
Yep. I would like to take a moment and just reemphasize
that learning to use and work with your hands,
these little fleshy bags of fun, definitely going
to be a way to secure your future in the coming
years. AI will definitely take jobs. We'll talk
about that. Oh, yeah, we're getting there. Drones
are also being used to inspect bridges, power
lines, and other critical infrastructure. Other
jobs that have been done by humans. They were.
Agriculture. Farmers are using drones to monitor
crops, apply pesticides, and optimize irrigation.
More jobs that used to be done by humans. The
problem is farmers can't afford to have humans
do that nowadays. No, they can't because they
can buy one drone or pay a bunch of... People
that may not show up every year. Exactly. So
emergency services, this one I do like. Drones
are proving to be invaluable tools for search
and rescue operations, providing an aerial perspective
in disaster zones. Being able to see where you
cannot see in a rescue situation is absolutely
vital. Mountain rescuers have been using drones
for the last few years for like avalanche recovery,
mountain search and rescue. Police have been
using drones for finding people that are evading
them using like FLIR technology. Absolutely indispensable
for those kind of applications. And I do support
that kind of use. Those are the kinds of situations
you need that eye in the sky to find the person
as quickly as possible. I just worry the government's
going to take it too far. You know, that's going
to come a day with another one. The government
would never take it too far. No, no. They would
never do that. I know, but silly goose, I'll
have to tell you. But I guess that's my thing
is I love the availability. Yes. Of having these
drones here. One thing I like about the availability
is it's not just them that can have them. Yes,
for now. We, as the general public, have access
to building materials, 3D printers. GitHub is
a thing. Yes. We have access to the resources
and can make these things ourselves for now.
Yes. I know there are people already talking
about limiting the size and or weight of what
civilians can have. Yeah, but if shit breaks
down, it's not going to matter. But what I'm
getting at is in the first moments of if there's
something that happens, we will be at a distinct
disadvantage as civilians if those... um restrictions
go through yes now what we are quickly entering
the world of 1984 with this because inversely
you will really have no privacy going forward
give it a few years to where once the police
departments start cutting you know officers but
getting more drones on board start using more
surveillance um it's going to be the case of
they're going to have drones just patrolling
neighborhoods and videoing you know every time
you're outside your house yeah you know that's
i don't know i get it in some ways that's the
thing that people need to realize officers have
to be paid a salary drones have to be purchased
once i i think we're going to be switching to
a police system at some point where that there
will not be police officers patrolling your skies
will be filled with small drones that will be
too small for you to hear you might barely be
able to see them but they will be going through
a monitoring and listening The drones will be
there to monitor. The police officers will be
there to respond. Exactly what I'm getting at.
To give you guys an idea, our technology is already
at this point because in my city where I live
in, they had a program 10 years ago to where
they installed these very high fidelity microphones
all around the city to where if a gunshot went
off, they could triangulate it and get to the
position. What's insane... is they only put a
few hundred thousand dollars into that program.
And that was over 10 years ago. And it was accurate
up to about six to 10 feet of where they located
it. How do I know this? Because my neighbor,
they had a deer that got hit and he likes to
skin the deers and stuff like that and take the
deer meat and whatever. And he called up the
police and said, Hey, this deer just got hit.
I'm a hunter. I want the meat. Can I kill it?
and put it out of its misery and take the meat
because if you guys take too long to get here
it's going to spoil and then you have to dispose
of it and they said well i guess hold on and
he waited a little bit wait about five minutes
i called back and said sure well the automated
system detected the gunshot And so they sent
other officers over to investigate and see if
some officers there have been like, oh, thanks,
man, for handling. The other ones were like,
we were just told you fired. You know, there's
a firearm fire right here. Get down. You're being
arrested. It was a whole big kerfuffle. He ended
up being fine. But what was insane was they recorded
it. It was within like six to 10 feet is what
the officers were telling me. And this is technology
from 10 years ago. Yeah. 10. And I don't live
in a big city. Yeah. So. So imagine what's going
to happen with all these drones. And having layers
and layers of surveillance and layers and layers
of all this on top of each other, you won't be
able to fart outside your house before you get
a fucking fine. Are you kidding me like that?
That's going to be insane. That's CO2 emissions.
That's methane emissions. Exactly, exactly. Unlicensed
release of methane, $5 fine. Oh, did you ever
watch Demolition Man? Are you talking about the
swearing scene? Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. You have
been fined one credit for violation of the methane
parameters. That's what's going to happen. Or,
like, what's going to get weird is stuff like,
imagine if somebody has a pool and you want to
go skinny dipping. They'll be like, you know,
you're fined $5 for public indecency. It's like,
motherfucker, I made my yard. But they're like,
no, they can see you. They're watching. They're
watching, Dave. I can see you. Yeah, I'll encourage
them to watch. I'll just shove my ass up to the
sky and be like, Watch here. Free chocolate stoppage
for all who attend. God, people go broke if public
nudity and swearing is something they can get
fined for. I know. Imagine the people in road
rage. Jesus. Imagine you just do like, fuck this
dude. And a drone just comes down next to you
and it'd be like, I'm sorry, you've now been
fined. God damn it, you've been fined again.
Fuck you. I'm fined again. Dude, that would just,
that would endlessly escalate. Oh, yeah. We're
going to live in a wild world where when you
can't be nude on your own property, but people,
endless amount of people do it on OnlyFans. Oh,
yeah. Well, they're getting paid for it, so.
I just don't like this. Yep. But, yeah, drones
are going to become a thing. And sure, we might
be a little bit hyperbolic now, but I feel like
five or ten years from now, we're going to be
100 % vindicated. Probably. You know, this show
eventually will be calling us prophets. The prophets
of doom. You know. Oh, we should make some videos
about that. Having us on stage and people just
bowing down to us. We could do that with that
new VO3 engine that you want to talk about. Oh,
we're getting there. There's the segue. We're
getting there. Yeah, because I've hit all the
drone points. We can go into the VO3 stuff. Okay.
So the big thing that's... The other huge news
of the internet is Google released basically
an AI video generated tool. Called Veo 3 now
there was Veo 2 Which that was pretty good that
was what was of use with the original? So Veo
1 was the original Will Smith AI thing and Veo
2 is what they've been using recently well Veo
3 came out and Veo 3 is terrifying if you work
in Hollywood oh because I Have to be honest with
you It will generate both the audio and the video
of the prompts that you give it, and it can generate
things like its own jokes, its own context. It'll
do entire episodes. They're even working on one
to eventually be doing entire movies. But what's
crazy is it's you can sometimes tell most of
the time you can tell it's AI, but you were in
that uncanny valley area to where sometimes you
can't even tell that it's AI. I sent him a video
before we went live tonight, and I said, hey,
you have to see this. It's hilarious. It's disturbingly
gross, but it's made with the new VO3 engine.
He thought the first half of it was real. And
normally, I'm pretty good at spotting this stuff
because I know what to look for. It even fooled
me. And what scares me is how many people over
the age of 55 or 60 that are on Facebook that
are going to start believing every fucking video.
that they see, it's going to be pure pandemonium.
The issue we see also, I have two concerns that
I've been thinking of. One, if this is just now
becoming commercially available to people, what
has the government had access to for the last
10 or 20 years? How many things have we thought
that we've seen or that we've been showed that
maybe it wasn't the whole truth and maybe it
was edited? Number two, the... The more concerning
thing, you have shows like Saturday Night Live
or even all the Marvel movies and TV shows and
everything else, all these huge productions with
all these writers and directors and everything.
And the actors. And the actors. What's scary
is I have laughed more from these AI comedy clips
than I have from any Marvel thing in the last
five years. What terrifies me is these are funnier
than SNL. Oh, yeah. I'm I'm keeping politics
out of it. No bias, no nothing. It's genuinely
funny because I think I think it doesn't have
to take into account any sort of public backlash
or any sort of. Well, that's a lot like any sort
of politics or anything. It's just doing what
it's seeing other shows do that are successful.
And what's crazy is what I will say as far as
SNL goes, the. The scenes where they've had Scarlett
Johansson's husband and the other news anchor
reading each other's unviewed jokes. Oh, God,
those are hilarious. That's one of the few good
things on SNL right now. Yeah. But a lot of it's
just been very, very crap, very politicized.
But it's crazy that the AI can do a convincing
TV show at a moment's notice. what's going to
be insane is mind you we're just at the third
iteration of this in the last couple of years
and every time also yeah this engine was only
released on may 20th yeah that's all the longer
this has been out we've got three to four weeks
of content that's already that good give this
engine some time to mature and holy shit there
there were already people working on taking like
um TV shows and make it into real life. I saw
one guy was trying to use some of the prompts
to redo some like the old Batman animated shows
to make it into like real life. It's kind of
crazy because they're just trying to use prompts
and be able to have it regenerate the same characters
over and over. It's going to be difficult. I
wonder, could you take a digital copy of a book
and feed it into this engine? and get some kind
of like a a play out that's the goal oh god i
i have so i have some books i want to see well
here's here's what's going to be crazy and i
know we discussed this on a previous podcast
but this is a point i really want to reiterate
with this the way ai is going we are eventually
going to be the curators of all of our own content
There is going to become a point very soon to
where humans will no longer have shared experiences
when it comes to media. It used to be we all
meet up, we go to the movies, we get some snacks
with each other, maybe we catch dinner before
or after, but we all have that shared equal experience
of watching and appreciating the same content.
What's going to change in the next few years
is they're going to say, hey, we know what movies
you like. What if we made you your own movie?
And we make it exactly the way you want. If you
don't like something, you could ask the AI to
change it. Every ending can be what you want.
Every movie for you will be a happy ending. Or
you get yourself a Neuralink and you can edit
it while it's playing. That's even a whole other...
That I don't like even more. But what's going
to scare me is not the age brackets that you
and I are in because we're used to standardized
movies. Here comes the question for the kids
that are being born now that are going to be
brought up in the world of AI movies and content.
Will they ever know anything other than watching
what they want, how they want, exactly the way
that they want it? Right. I just had a very terrifying
thought, Gibbs. Real 4D movies where with said
Neuralink, you cannot just edit how the movie
goes. You can actually feel what's going on.
Viscerally. I will tell you this right now. Horror
movies would take on a whole new edge. We will
choose The Matrix. Oh, yeah. The way we are going,
people are going to say, you know what? I will
choose it. What was his name in the first Matrix
movie that says, I know the steak isn't real?
Cypher. Cypher. Thank you. I bet you 99 % of
people will choose to be Cypher. Yep. I choose
ignorance. And you know what's scary? I get it.
I'm not going to do it, but I get it because,
you know, those of us that have already been
around, we get what reality is, but you're going
to be talking about having a whole different
idea of what a shared reality is when the AI
is going to be where they live. Now, here comes
in the more immediate term. How long will it
be until Hollywood and the movie industry and
the music industry starts fighting against this?
Because. why would you hire all these writers
on SNL when an AI can literally be funnier like
80 % of the time? Why wouldn't they just let
the AI write everything and then have the actual
people review it and be like, that's funny, that's
not, that is, that's not, edit this. That's probably
going to be the first step. And I think you're
going to start seeing that. You're going to see
this weird problem where all the AI that they're
using are going to start doing very similar things.
If you thought stuff between Marvel and DC and
everything was similar now, Wait until they're
using the same AI that does the same kind of
jokes in the same kind of way, the same kind
of camera movements and everything. It's going
to get weird. And it's going to get repetitive
and scripted. Oh, speaking of camera movements,
I sent you a link to a thing. There's a new process
coming out. It's going to be used a lot for sporting
events. Mostly it's going to be focused on the
after the broadcast is done. But people can interact
with it and get camera angles from any point
in 3D space. Eventually, it's going to be done
with AI agents where it can be done in near real
time. So the whole idea is eventually. So I don't
know if you know, this is actually a couple of
restaurants that do something similar to where
they have a giant screen that that's literally
like 40 feet. Yes, I've seen those. I've seen
those. okay that's eventually going to come to
your home through this idea to where you're going
to pay for a digital seat and you're going to
be able to move that around in 3d space or pay
for a better upgrade or whatever but you'll be
able to sit there and watch the game from your
vr headset or from your tv or whatever and you
have your digital seat um yeah i'll i'll take
a i don't do sports but i wouldn't mind watching
like a an mna fight or something you know Go
and watch. You know, a real boxing match where
we get, you know, a 3D Tyson cheeks, maybe. The
I don't know. It's cool technologically. But
boy, do I think a lot of people are going to
start checking out of reality soon. It keeps
going this way. I mean, do people sleep in VR
already? What? So, yeah. What is it? VR chat.
What do you mean they sleep in VR chat? Yeah,
people actually use VR chat with their headsets
and they sleep in VR. Why? They have dedicated
rooms. Ambience. I'm getting old for this shit.
This is... These young kids and these goddamn
contraptions with these Harvard. I just I don't
know. I don't get it. Right. That's scary. I
mean, like, I understand if you're like a poor
African country where, like, you don't want to
look at the hut that you live in. I get that,
too. I would be the same. But, like, I know I
just offended a lot of people, but I really don't
care. But at the same point, like, if you're
someone that's privileged in, like, a first world
country, like, what's so wrong about your life
where you can't sleep in your bed? Like, I don't
know. Like, you know what, though? I wouldn't
understand if you're in, like, a dorm situation
or maybe you have to, like, share a room with
somebody. Like, that I would kind of understand,
but... I am 30 or 40 years old. I do not need
this. Goddamn. The world never ceases to amaze
and confound and confuse me. Right. Good lord.
Sleeping in VR chat. Yep. What happens? Like,
what happens when someone comes in the room and
just starts yelling at you? Pull your headset
off? User has joined your server. Fuck you, you
stupid bitch! Well, no, they're passworded out,
so it would have to be hacked, but... I mean,
like, I've been in those rooms just to see what
they're like. And they are, they're nice. They're
serene. They're relaxing. Call me the VR Kool
-Aid man because I'm going to haunt your fucking
dreams. Oh, yeah. Get real close to them and
they just start whispering the weird shit. How
do you like it moist? Give me that clam chowder.
Some fresh oyster gravy. Put that in someone's
head while they're sleeping. You know, the amount
of confused nightmares you're going to cause.
You know. Someone's going to be waking up and
thinking, I don't even like seafood. I don't
get this. I don't understand. Oh, my God. I just.
Or you could sit there and just talk to them
and just tell them all the most fucked up jokes
you know. It's like, have you ever gone down
on a girl, tasted semen, and thought to yourself,
maybe that's how she died? I hate you. Oh my
god. But yeah, so long story short, if you want
to really see what... We got way off the rails.
I know. That's half the fun, though. Look up
VEO3. I think there's going to be a lot of situations
where it's going to start taking over in a lot
of video form content. There's a lot of stuff
on YouTube already that's getting there. Same
thing with TikTok. One of the things that is
a problem with it. So there was already a law
passed about AI deep fakes being used in explicit
terms. What the fuck is that guy playing? Did
you hear that loud ass car that drove by? Nope.
No. Okay, cool. At least that's working. Anyway,
sorry. It was playing weird music regardless.
One of the concerns I want everyone to be aware
of, I know we mentioned it in a previous podcast
or two, double check any videos that people are
reporting as news because this is getting to
be so real that it's easy to see the misinformation,
to see the deep fakes. It's very easy to not
know. what is real anymore with some of these
so just be aware be skeptical because uh i think
a lot of videos are going to start being switched
out for ai the only plus side though is i don't
know about you guys but i like watching documentaries
to learn stuff as well and i like to kind of
you know watch stuff as i'm learning what i think
is interesting is we can use ai to start using
educationally I had to kind of teach people some
stuff. I think that's going to be kind of neat.
There's certain ways we can use it, which would
be great, but holy hell. You can use AI to bring
back educators that have passed. You know what?
My favorite, I was watching, what was it? Ben
Franklin. That'd be cool. Carl Sagan would be
nice. I was watching Ben Franklin discuss how
he discovered electricity. And then he went to
grab some soups. This soup is absolutely busted.
And I just, with the modern language being thrown
in with him talking about it, I just died. I
think there's a lot of kids, though, I think
in high school, because history is such a dry
subject, I feel like a great use of AI could
be for things like history and English or even
math in some cases to make it more relatable
and more human. Because I watched an entire five
-minute thing of George Washington walking through
an old camp right after one of the battles. I
forget which one. And just talking and interviewing
other soldiers. And I'm sitting there thinking,
this whole thing's fucking made up. But you know
what? As someone that was a history teacher,
everything checks out. It's pretty accurate.
Sure, there's some things that are wrong. But
they purposely throw in modern jargon and language
just to make it funny and relatable. And I'm
like, son of a bitch. You know, it's actually
really good. It's kind of funny. So I don't know.
I feel like there's so much potential. It's awesome.
But it's also terrifying. Get big advice. Big
advice here. I think in this podcast, we both
agree with get a job where I can't replace you.
Please. Yes. Offer some sort of service or something.
Because fucking Christ. I'm sorry. If you're
a script writer, if you work as like a camera
guy or something like that. Womp womp. I'll have
to tell you. You got replaced. Just wait till
the porn bots come out. I'll be honest with you.
I think a lot of women are not going to be on
OnlyFans anymore because they're going to be
replaced with bots. Done right now. One thing
you got to kind of worry about. Can you really
trust what you see on the Internet anymore? No
past a certain point. Cause we're, we're not
that far from that point. Really? That's why
I really stress for people. If you want to keep
up with the news, follow independent news journalists.
I'm not saying there's any one that's the best.
I really do like people like Steve, Steve pool.
Oh my God, Tim pool. I feel like he's a good
gateway into a lot of independent people. Dave
Rubin. There's a few other ones as well. But
like, seriously, if you follow just the mainstream,
Everybody is copying using AI and putting like
CNN or Fox or MSNBC, ABC. It's going to get really
messy real quick. So follow independent journalists,
please. Yeah. One other thing is people that
actually take real videos, the real true stuff,
and try to say, oh, that's just AI. Don't worry.
It's fake. Yeah. Because again. The fake stuff
is so real and believable, you almost can't tell
the difference. There's going to be a big problem,
I think, in the future, where when the elections
come around a few years, of people posting rallies.
That's the one I'm going to be watching for.
Well, they'll be posting rallies before they
happen with AI to control the narrative. I'm
telling you right now, the biggest, I know we
say this every year, and this is like an old
trope, like this is the biggest election ever.
The election coming up in 2028, It's going to
be absolutely terrifying because you're not going
to know whether it's real or not. The only way
you're going to know what you're watching is
real is if you watch it live. And even then,
it could still be edited in real time. The flood
on the morning after of reels that are going
to come out and say this person won versus that
person, I think that's going to be a big issue.
I'm going to call that right now. Here it is,
June 8th, 2025. I'm going to say there's going
to be a shit ton of reels coming out one way
or the other saying this candidate won when the
other one actually won. Oh, I'm going to go like
five steps further than you. I think it will
be absolute mass violence after that. If you
thought it was bad during the last three elections.
2020. If you thought it was bad in 2020 or 2024,
even 2016, you ain't seen nothing until you're
going to have half the country convinced. one
person won the other part of the country that
is convinced the other person won. I'm telling
you right now. Or worse, what if somebody makes
a fake video and shows a candidate getting assassinated?
That's what I'm saying. This is going to be something
to where you're not going to know reality, and
that's what I really am scared of for 2028, is
anyone can make these videos. Anyone can edit
anything. anybody can implicate a president or
vice president or a senator or lawmaker doing
anything and there's nothing if they make a video
that says oh i i did this and with with such
and such and i'm going to bow out of the race
yeah bro like a week before the election like
are you serious you can make any one of them
just appear on epstein's island like i'm i'm
just saying like this this is something that's
scary but like you you could literally tank someone's
A chance is overnight the night before the election
or a couple of days before. And by the time they
have three days by the time you post that on
Friday before the election and then it's Tuesday,
you could take it. Damage is done. Yeah. And
I feel like that's going to happen. And that's
what absolutely terrifies me. That's why I'm
really pissed. I will say we're not going to
discuss too much like the big, beautiful bill
or whatever Trump was trying to pass with that.
But the fact that there are no restrictions on
some of this stuff. really concerns me and his
administration needs to understand how serious
this is because if we don't at least require
a water stamp a watermark or something legally
because i think people should be allowed to use
it but if you if you're using it to influence
about anyone else that already exists you should
have to get their express permission to use their
likeness and or have to say this is expressly
ai and not real somewhere before during and or
after the video Yeah. So just saying it's that
scares me. This could go so bad. Yeah. And unlike
you were saying, it's going to be an issue of
you will not know until it's too late. And then
people are going to be scrambling to figure out,
OK, is this real? Is this fake? How do we verify?
How do we double verify? How do we verify the
verification? just the level of authenticity
and the authenticity checks that are going to
have to go into place. It's we are, we are walking
at, we are Zoidberg into a level of Orwellian
fear that I did not think I would live to see.
Yeah, we're there. Yeah. Speaking of Orwellian
fear. The rise of the machines is also right
around the corner. AI -powered robots are getting
very real. I'll just segue into our next point.
AI is enabling robots to perform increasingly
complex tasks in the service industry, as well
as other facets of life. I will mention that
the first AI -powered kickboxing match was held
in China last week. Did you ever see that movie,
Real Steel? Yeah. It was actually a hefty movie,
too. I really liked that movie. It had some cheesy
points, but they were in the movie to be cheesy.
We are not. Let's kind of be hopeful on this.
We are maybe not more than 10 to 15 years away
from that. I think less than that. Within 10
to 15 years. Yeah. So we could have actual robot
fighting matches. Maybe we'll have somebody like
Tyson back when he tried to pay a zookeeper to
let him fight a gorilla. We'll have boxers trying
to pay people to let them fight the robots. We're
going to fucking cyborg Tyson fighting off against
a robot to see who's better. Like he's going
to be 78 years old looking like a half man, half
machine just sitting out there fighting. I wonder
if he's a robot, will he still have a lisp? He'd
really be Iron Mike Tyson at that point. Oh,
if they gave him the Stephen Hawking voice box,
could they program the lisp? That would be hilarious.
Yes. But yeah, the AI robots, they're getting
a foothold in restaurants. grocery stores, delivery
services, hospitals and hotels. A lot of the
industries honestly make sense because they're
lifting heavy things, carrying heavy things and
delivering slash dropping off heavy things. Yes,
it makes sense. But we also have exosuits that
can enable humans to do the same thing. But the
robots cost a lot less. They don't complain.
They don't take sick days. They don't. call off
they don't change jobs they don't need the training
yeah there's there's a lot of this makes sense
to replace the people i hate saying that but
when it comes to this kind of thing yeah it makes
sense uh these types of robots are actually designed
to work alongside humans but the more advanced
versions will be designed to replace the humans
we have been saying this the entirety of the
podcast robots are replacing humans Jensen from
Nvidia has already come out and said robots could
be getting paid wages to replace humans. I think
he said 50 grand a year. I don't know why we
would pay robots. I think he was just kind of
talking out of his ass. He's talking about the
idea of the cost being that like effectively.
Yeah. So we've, we've got the balance here that
robots can be purchased at. lower wages, air
quotes on lower, that can actually replace workers.
And these are investments, and they will last
for years and years and years. And they'll only
get better. They will only get better through
software upgrades. So these are, again, as we've
said in iRobot, these are the twos and threes.
So we're not that far away. And the NS2s and
3s get a lot of work done. Yes, they do. We're
not the NS4 yet. And we're not doing the NS5.
No, no, no, no, no. Let's not even go there.
No. Something I did want to say was that I have
a little experience with AI taking jobs because
of my previous dealership that I was working
at when I was leaving there. They got an AI to
replace the secretary that would basically they
would answer the phone and that to redirect you.
The AI would determine your tone, how angry you
were, what your issues were and everything. And
they would give a write up on the customer and
it would automatically direct to the proper either
repair person, service advisor, the person that
is best linked to what the issues and problems
are and what kind of service they want and their
attitude. Wow. And it was scary. Accurate. And
they were like, yeah, it only costs us like $6
,000 or $7 ,000 a month, but it's going to replace
several people, and it works 24 -7. So we could
take calls all the time. Or at least if it takes
a voicemail, it will do a summary and assessment
and give it to the right person to answer back.
I was like, holy shit. That's incredible. Also,
I'm a little perturbed. As a large man myself,
I do occasionally go to Wendy's, and there was
a local Wendy's that they use the AI ordering
machine. And I got to be honest, I fucking hate
that shit. Because half the time, granted, I
think it's because I drive a louder truck because
it's an older truck. But like half the time,
it doesn't hear what I'm saying or doesn't get
it right. So then I just go to the mobile order
and I order on there anyway for pickup. And I
tell it's for pickup and it doesn't even understand
what I'm saying. So I just drive up to the window
anyway. But yeah, it's scary. And I'm for it
in some cases, I think as an addition or as an
additional tool. That's awesome. As replacement,
man, where else are these people going to work?
Well, we've kind of talked about that. With AI
taking so many jobs, there's going to be a shift
in economic policy that's going to have to be
addressed sooner rather than later, I think.
Yeah. Because there are so many jobs that are
going to be replaced. I'd have to reference back
to our episode, but... I think it was something
like 40 % of jobs in the next five to 10 years
are likely, not possibly likely to be replaced
by AI. 40%. That's a shit ton of jobs. And these
are all the jobs that are like sub $20 an hour.
Yeah. Almost all the unskilled labor. Yeah. All
the unskilled white collar jobs. Yeah. So. That's
a lot of people out of work. And these robots
that are coming out, they can work at McDonald's.
They can work at Wendy's. They can work at Amazon.
They've got Amazon places that are looking to
go dark. No humans at all. No restroom breaks
for these people. I mean, they already don't
do restroom breaks, so no restroom breaks for
the robots either. It is a scary world we're
walking into, man. But to get back to the robots,
the AI robots, for the kickboxing match in China,
one of the things I did want to say is you can
thank Boston Dynamics for a lot of that shit.
Oh, yeah. Them being able to walk on two legs,
being able to kick, being able to run. Thanks
for our dystopian future, Boston Dynamics. I
appreciate you. Yes. Thanks for dystopia. Yeah.
So I think that'll... What's that? I was thinking,
I wonder if those robots end up becoming full
-time workforces. Like, are we going to have
to put it on the list of, like, they require
rights and stuff like that? Because I'm sure
as shit, California is really good at requiring
everything has to have rights, whether they're
here legally or not, or citizens or not, or alive
or not. I wonder if they're going to go down
that road too, to where they fight so hard for
robot rights and then they're too expensive and
they hire people again. Yeah. Hire AI to legislate
for robots. There you go. I mean, it tracks.
Honestly, I could, you know what? I now have
something to do at a couple of weekends. I'm
going to use the AI to save us. Yes. Pull a 180.
So the last thing that we're going to talk about
tonight, I know you wanted to. Drop this into
the bucket. Yeah. The Trump versus Elon bromance
ending. I know. I'm really ashamed, really. Don
Lon is broken up. Ashamed? I'm ashamed, man.
I just Don Lon. No more. No more. Ashamed is
probably the wrong word for me to use. I'm very
disappointed. There you go. I am disappointed
that they couldn't figure this out. Okay. So
I'm going to leave my opinion to the end. I just
want to cover what's happened. Because I think
I know. I think a lot of people aren't reading
this right. Yes. So cover me with the glaze.
Let me have this sugary frosting. That did not
leave a good taste. Glaze me. At least have some
pineapple next time. That does not taste good.
So Elon Musk is kind of the start of this whole
thing. So as everyone knows, he was in a pointed
position by Donald Trump to be part of DOGE,
Department of Government Efficiency, to be able
to help understand the wasteful spending that's
going on, be able to pinpoint it, be able to
give kind of a plan of action, if you will, as
to what should be done. Well, with the spending
bill that the Republicans have proposed that
is being supported by Donald Trump, Elon Musk
made a tweet the other night saying, I'm sorry,
I just can't stand it anymore, this massive,
outrageous, congressional spending bill is an
abomination and then he makes the comment of
you know time to drop the really big bomb donald
trump is in the epstein files that is the real
reason why they haven't been made public have
a nice day mark this post for the future this
truth will come out soon and then he said without
me trump would have lost the election democrats
have control of the house republicans would not
have the majority in the senate such ingratitude
um you know trump responds basically just saying
that you know he doesn't mind that elon turned
against him but like He's been helping them out,
giving a record cut in expenses. It's supposed
to cut $1 .6 trillion in spending, the biggest
tax cut ever given, as well as a few other issues.
It's supposed to give a crazy tax decrease and
all those other things. I'm not going to get
into the politics of the bill, because that really
doesn't interest me right now. That's going to
be a separate thing. What I wanted to get at
here is they're making this. This has been all
over the news. This has been the only thing that's
been on mainstream news for the last four or
five days. This happened last Wednesday. I want
to know what it's trying to distract us from,
really. Well, I actually have a different opinion
on this entirely. So the issue has been ever
since Elon Musk really started becoming vocal
politics and getting involved like three years
ago, three or four years ago, with backing Trump.
The issue has been Tesla, SpaceX, everything
else. It's kind of been considered now almost
conservative or Republican companies, even though
it's kind of weird, because really, Tesla's always
been environmentally friendly, ecological, very
almost left -leaning kind of company in a lot
of ways. So it was kind of weird to have this
sudden flip. The issue I think he sees is what
I see, which is that in order for Tesla to be
really successful, You can't alienate half of
your demographic or half the people that would
be potential buyers for that or for SpaceX or
for anything else. So it is my opinion that he
is trying to do this. And there's a reason why
both of them are participating in this because
Elon's already leaving the position anyway, because
his days are up for being in Doge. I think he's
making a very public. Very definitive statement
saying, hey, I am not affiliated with Trump or
the conservatives or anything. He is trying to
save face and get away. And I think Donald Trump
is in on it. I think the whole idea here is Elon
Musk got in, got the information, got this thing
started, got it rolling, and he's going to get
out and go back to doing other stuff. And he
needs some distance in order for his company
to be successful because. look what happened
a few months ago when people were firebombing
teslas they were burning they were burning the
dealerships they were destroying the cars they
were attacking people putting swastikas on like
it's crazy so i think for the sake of his companies
and his legacy i i think he and trump had a meeting
i was like hey we can't do this there's no way
to me that makes the only logical sense because
i don't think these two people that are as smart
as they are would publicly have the dumbest bullshit
beef ever and make it this public and say things
like they have been. And I just cut out some
clips and excerpts that were more direct. There
were a lot of other stuff that was said. But
it's basically just wah, wah, wah, bullshit,
he said, she said, whatever, you're stupid, you're
a bitch, you know, whatever. To me, I just think
it's to make it so Elon is also fulfilling his
fiduciary responsibility for the companies. Because
here's my other concern. I wonder if they're
coming after him saying, hey, you're not fulfilling
that, and you have a conflict of interest by
being in this part with Doge, with the U .S.
government, and basically beholding to one political
party type of thing. That's where I think this
is coming from. That makes sense. As he's leaving
the position, he will reenter the commercial
side of his life, and now he's got to get back
to... making money as a business owner. His businesses
have been hemorrhaging money. So, yeah, this
is how he saves face. I could buy that. That's
a solid theory. I could 100 % buy that. Very
well presented. Congratulations, Gibbs. I think
that's what's going to come out in the future
because he just needs to cut ties and move on.
There's no way, unfortunately, his company will
survive very well without it. No. Now, here's
the question I have. That's a position that can
be fulfilled yearly. It's not a one -time deal.
Correct. So he could kiss and make up with Elon
and next year have him back to head Doge again.
He could hire Elon or he could hire someone else.
Right. Maybe I wonder if the best strategy would
be to hire four different people that have four
different sets of skills to go after and look
at. That's what he should do. If I were Trump.
I would look at someone like Elon's a great first
person to start because he has the precedent.
Knowing that he has enough experience with large
numbers, with large sets of data, with these
large businesses, that for him to get the right
people, because that's one of Elon's talents.
Elon, like Donald Trump, I would give them both
credit. They're never the smartest person in
the room. But you know what they're both really
good at? Getting the right people that know how
to do something. Elon's never been the guy to
personally make the cars, but he found the people
to do it 10 years almost before anyone else could.
Look at Donald Trump. Same thing. He might not
be the smartest person in the room, but he's
made over 500 companies. Only like a handful
of them have ever been bankrupt. How many other
people can build companies have like a 98 or
99 percent success rate again? And most of his
bankruptcies were like financial chess moves,
basically. Exactly. Most of those were on one
of his other companies acquiring that. So they
go bankrupt. So therefore, they're just basically
transferring intellectual property. And that's
it. And they close their debts and they're all
done. Again, it's kind of a shitty thing to do,
but also it's legal. And that's what they all
do. So welcome to U .S. business practices. Same
with taxes. Well, taxes are stuffed anyway. That's
besides the point. I know. Taxation is stuffed.
And the Fed. If only. If only we could. So it's
one of those things, though, that it makes sense
why he picked him, because those two intellectually
are very much aligned. They speak the same language.
And Elon put the right people in there that for
the next few years, regardless, at least it's
going the right direction. Then it's going to
be Trump should be putting in people for the
next three years that can help mold it to help
help refine it. You know, he put the guy that
was the hammer. Great. Now let's get the scalpel.
You know, let's get someone that can really focus
on the couple of points. And I think what really
has to happen is Trump needs to spend the next
couple of years peeling back some layers and
figuring out what's going on. But no, I agree
with you 100%. I think this is the smart move.
And I think it's the most logical. Because vice
versa, if they were both just having this out
on Twitter, why? None of them win. Neither one
of them wins this. No, but it does show extra
usage on X. So Elon can say, hey, it's getting
used. You're not wrong. You know, for the couple
hundred bucks in ad revenue he's making off of
that. Right. But, yeah. Yeah, that was really...
Besides that, that was kind of really my thoughts
on that whole beef that was just making the rounds
on the internet for the last few days. Yeah.
Well, we'll probably do the actual one big beautiful
bill itself. Yep. We can do that in another show.
Oh, yes. Because there's a lot to it, and we
need to see what actually gets hammered out and
passed when it does pass. That's the thing. I've
been doing some research on that, and there's
a lot of conflicting information. I just have
to wait and see what's actually 100 % passed,
not just approved by the House or the Senate,
but actually passed. That way we can look through
it. Because I do want to report on that, because
I think that's going to be big. That's huge.
Yes. It's one of those bills that, for what it
is, it has the potential to make a lot of really
good changes for a lot of people in the country.
I still encourage people to vote local. Those
are the elections that matter more than the presidential
one. Your Congress and Senate people, they matter
a little bit more than the president as well.
But your local ones make the most change that
will affect your day -to -day lives. Is that
it? Yeah, we're through everything. Wow, we got
through everything in like an hour and change.
I know, it was good. Should we riff for another
hour and stretch it out? Like a prom date? Oh
my god. Oh my god. You know, I would ask you,
how did that work out for you? But I'm scared
to get the fucking answer. So let's just... Just
no. No, no, no. Oh, man. But yeah, it was nice
to have a bit of a... Listen, when they find
out that your ham kettle has its own girl certificate,
it's never a good time for them. I learned two
euphemisms in one sentence. I learned two euphemisms
in one sentence. Oh, you're welcome. Love you,
buddy. Yeah. Jesus. Oh, my God. I just. Oh, my
God. But yeah, I guess that's that's really it,
huh? There's nothing else. Is there anything
else? I think so. The shorts are doing well.
Check those out. We are 100 % live on Apple platforms
now. So if anybody is listening to us on Apple,
hello, welcome. If you're hearing this, this
is the first broadcast we have made where we
know we are on Apple. Yeah, for some reason,
Apple decided to shadow ban us, and I don't know
why. They wouldn't say. I'm a little weirded
out. It was just... Impossible to get the accounts
made for whatever reason. I actually sat on the
phone for an hour today with an Apple rep trying
to get the account handled. So shout out to,
I think his name was Rob at Apple today. So thank
you for that. Thank you, Rob. We love you. We
love you, Rob. Welcome to Apple podcast. We love
you. I want to touch you in intimate ways to
say thank you. Consensually for legal reasons.
Oh, man. But, yeah, so we're on Apple now. The
shorts are doing really well. Thank you for the
ones you have been putting up, especially the
ones you did manually. Those are performing really
well, actually. We're learning. We're learning.
We're learning. Careful. If all I can learn as
quickly as AI. Right? Go ahead and get yourself
a Neuralink and you'll be alright. Fucking Burger
King ad. That's the problem. They got a Burger
King ad at 3 in the morning. That's the issue.
Either that or God forbid if I get that fucking
Cars for Kids ad at 4 in the morning. Oh my God.
Yeah. Now you understand why I turn that shit
off every time it comes on. For reference, if
anybody... chooses to there is an ad for a company
that takes donations of cars they use the money
to give it to kids organizations the commercial
is so earwormy i have to turn it off or else
it gets stuck in my head for three days oh i'll
i'll be honest with you this is an episode we're
going to do sometime cars for kids was entirely
the reason why our used car market sucks by the
way i thought that was the cash for clunkers
program that one also Yeah. Because that destroyed
the used car market. I did a little research.
I went a little tism diving the other night.
Oh, nice. Yeah. That's going to be a future episode.
I'm currently working on the background on that
one. Awesome. So I despise it even more than
you know. Excellent. All right. Well, I guess
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