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But all right. So on today's episode, we want
to talk about. Basically, the absolutely, how
should I say, diabolical nature of the American
health care and food system. Health care? Well,
sorry, food, our food. Sorry. That's a different
episode. I got a little ahead. I got a little
ahead. Yes. But our food is just absolutely terrible
in this country. We kind of wanted to go over
some more generalized details, some more discussions,
topics around it, and kind of our own thoughts
and experiences with it, as well as a little
bit of research we've done. But basically. Really,
this is kind of being brought about by some of
the stuff that RFK is kind of doing. A .K .A.
Brain Worm. I, in fact, will be referring to
him as Brain Worm in the podcast. It is like
it's nice that he's taking a stand on that and
actually wanted to do something about the crap
chemicals we put in our food. Absolutely. But
I think the messaging could be better on it.
But that's something we'll get into a little
bit later. Yeah. But anyways. I do want to. preface
this, that aside from the shit that's in our
food, a lot of it is the American mindset. We
overeat. We overdo it because America. And that's
just a fact of the way we've been raised. We
are a land of plenty. We are used to having too
much to go around. And honestly, I think our
waistlines show it. The irony that we have come
to enjoy is having our double quarter pounder
meals and having the Diet Coke with it. I mean,
sure, you cut out what you can where you can.
But at the end of the day, moderation is not
just a place that happens to exist where you
happen to be that day. So you're not wrong. Well,
the reason I want to bring up the health care
thing was really because a lot of this kind of
stems from. You're right with what Americans
think. is healthy and with the food pyramid that
they released in the 50s and 60s i know we touched
briefly upon that a little bit yes but a lot
of our health problems stem from not just the
chemicals and the poison food which we're going
to get into but this really starts from in america
when it comes to the food pyramid with being
your grains your calories your calorically dense
foods being at the bottom and putting things
like meat and vegetables and fruit way up higher
to have less of which is really kind of the exact
opposite of what you want to do and then over
the years with chemicals being cheaper than using
actual food or really with a lot of cases a lot
of chemicals being byproducts in the process
of making other foods i'm saying hey what's a
better way to get rid of it oh put it in the
food but then also vice versa in america because
we're such a big country it's hey we need to
add preservatives so the food stays good for
longer because then we make more money so it's
this compounding problem that we've been dealing
with yeah um one one of the and let me ask you
this do you know why they started putting preservatives
in the food to the extent that they did and i'll
give you a hint it was not simply just for shelf
life now it was it was shelf life adjacent i
thought it was for the i thought they started
using they wanted the food to look colorful and
a lot of stuff they started using food dyes and
different preservatives to keep it well that
was just for food dyes but Originally, it was
because of shipping. They needed the food to
last long enough. A lot of it stemmed from when
the highway system was just developing. The trucks
would take too long for stuff to get to the stores.
So the food would be half rotten or all the way
rotten if trucks got held up. Now, a lot of this
came about as your highways were developing.
using the farm to table methods. So they were
getting their stuff in from the bigger places.
They needed a way to preserve the food for longer.
Now, smaller communities that were still using
the farm to table mentality, they didn't need
that stuff because it wasn't going as far. No,
but really with the emergence of our modern metropolis,
basically places like New York city, Boston,
LA, you know, this goes on and on. Yeah. When
you have. When you have an overabundance of people
and an underabundance of food and you have to
start bringing it in from further away to meet
the needs, that's when it starts to play in.
And that's kind of the problem with every major
metropolis. The suburbs have gotten farther and
farther out, so then the agricultural areas have
gotten farther and farther out. I mean, to be
honest with you, I'm just in the New England
area. You have to go significantly far away from
Boston in order to find farms. People might say,
oh, yeah, there's a farm around or in Boston.
Let's be real. It's not actually what you would
consider a farm that produces enough to have
a meaningful impact. No. Those farms usually
make niche things or they supply a couple of
restaurants or a few different places. If they
left, they wouldn't even have an impact on the
people that actually live there. You'd never
know. I hate to say it. Same thing with New York
or any of their major cities. The farms have
been pushed so far away that I hate to say it,
but preservatives in some things are almost necessary.
By the time they can actually be, you know, produced
and then manufactured and everything. Yeah, exactly.
Yeah. But the distance is definitely a big thing,
especially where like, there's also something
else that's kind of considered in America. We
don't really have that many walkable areas or
cities. Everything is by automotive, by car.
Whereas like over in Europe and a lot of other
countries where they'll have like a daily bread
maker, the local person that makes the bread
that has the chickens, gets the meat, does the
butchers, whatever. Whereas America, like, Almost
nobody lives in a city where you actually just
walk around. Well, even a lot of major cities,
you still don't even necessarily only walk around.
It's only in like the top five. I was just like
your top 10, maybe top 15 cities you would walk
around, but you probably don't walk more than
a few blocks from where you live. So that's going
to be like your bubble. Aside from your commute
to work. if you have a commute to work rather
oh yeah but uh yeah you're you're pretty much
right on that yeah that's that that's kind of
the the the big difference there yeah so in america
there's just it's one of the factors where we
have to have food that can be preserved for a
while um because also you have to consider too
with the increases in taxes and regulations as
well as things like Introduction of pesticides
and a lot of other things. We can talk about
the Monsanto stuff later on. DDT. Yep. Basically,
what's with Roundup? Yep, exactly. Roundup's
delicious. Tastes like bacon. But with the destruction
of a lot of the small farms as well and being
taken up by corporations, large monopolies, the
issue has always been that. every single year
more and more of the family farms not only push
far away from the city but they're also bought
up and or destroyed or in case of certain areas
regulations make it impossible to farm that's
why in like my state there's a big thing about
making like right to farm communities where the
idea is like if you're not in a right to farm
community they can actually go after you for
farming on your own land if you don't have the
explicit right oh yeah because they'll say you
don't they don't want fertilizer on the land
because what happens if that if that makes if
that affects the environment or does other stuff
or if you have animals that create a smell. That's
an undue smell on other people's property. They
shouldn't have to smell that. It's all that kind
of stuff. In my state, that's why there's a big
argument. I'm sorry. The farm was there first.
They chose to move in. To them, it doesn't matter.
It's unsightly. They're unsightly. Move along.
I know. My response is get a mirror. They'll
learn. You know, the protests in France, I think
they're doing some things right. That's how you
handle neighbors like that. Yeah, you just take
a harvester and dump a literal fuck ton of shit
on their property. Exactly. Here you go. Here's
your unsightly right there on your doorstep.
Thank you very much. Move along. You know what?
The French aren't professional at many things,
but protesting is something that they're really
fucking good at. Right? I mean, didn't they invent
the guillotine? Yeah, you know, they're really
good at revolutions, but they're really good
at almost doing them. Right. They'll do a revolution,
like almost go all the way through it. Right.
And then they end up back with the same bullshit
oligarchy. Yep. I don't know. It's this weird
thing with them. But anyways, that's a whole
different. Fun sidebar. I went to look at some,
some guns at a gun store years ago. Guy showed
me a French rifle and I asked him also, it's
only been dropped once. All right. That's a new
one. I like that. That's funny. That's funny.
Oh, man. It took him a solid second to think
about that when he started cracking up laughing.
You don't even make that many good rifles either
now that I think about it. Yeah, they've only
had a few. So I guess we could start right at
the top of our notes. We have some of the worst
food standards in the world, period. A lot of
our food is banned in other countries, not just
for the chemicals that are in it, but because
of the ingredients that we allow in it. A lot
of our bread counts as cake in other countries
because of the amount of sugar in it. Why our
bread has to have sugar in it is beyond me. Now,
I understand putting sugar in it for like the
fermenting process for the yeast. I get that
part. And beyond that. Bread does not need sugar.
Bread is fine without it. I have had homemade
bread without sugar. It's delicious. It's bread.
It's supposed to taste like bread, not sweet
bread. I've had sweet bread. Sweet bread is great.
You don't need to have the sugar unless it's
sweet bread. No. I'll get off my soapbox there.
You want to take the next one? Well, what I did
want to make up is like. Well, bread is one of
those things where anyone can learn to make at
home. Even like sourdough bread and other stuff.
Get ready to say sourdough has become the new
housewife craze. Well, the thing is, right, is
to go to a store and get actually good bread
in America. It's fucking expensive. It's only
expensive, but most of it has still been sitting
around for a day or two. Like, you know how bad
it is? My girlfriend and I, we actually order
from a local lady that makes them. And mind you,
I paid $10 for a loaf of sourdough. It's the
best sourdough I've ever had in my life. But
it's the only person around. We're working on
it. For $10 a loaf, you all need to start making
that shit. We have some plans in the works. Don't
you worry. Okay. But it's the idea that, like,
there were things that a lot of Americans, it
was very typical for a lot of American families
to use to be able to make your own bread. like
i even have like a machine at my house that's
for making like the non -sour like the regular
breads and stuff like that it used to be common
knowledge but now it's because people don't have
the time or don't have whatever they don't make
it but also finding any sort of person that like
knows how to make these foods even just generic
stuff it's actually rather difficult if at least
in my area anyway everyone found like a couple
of people for whatever fucking reason but anyways
did you want me to go down with the specific
I definitely want to hit on one of the big additives,
potassium bromate. That one's used as a dose
strengthener in baked goods like breads and rolls.
That's been linked to cancer in animal studies.
Absolutely banned in the European Union, the
UK, Canada, and a lot of other countries. California
will be banning it completely. Effective 2027.
You know, that's probably the first time California's
banned something and I agree with it. Yeah. Why
would we even want that? The list gets worse
the further down that we go. You're kidding.
So that's probably like the least bad one that
we have on the list. Okay. Do you want to take
the next one? Sure. BVO. Yep. Bromated vegetable
oil. This one I have actually heard of before.
Before we were doing this list. Used as emulsifier
in citrus -flavored drinks, like some sodas.
Contains bromine found in flame retardants. Linked
to neurological issues. Banned in the EU, Japan,
and India. FDA recently moved to revoke its approval.
Here's my question. Who is the jackass that approved
that in the first place? Yep. Like, the minute
you know it can be linked to neurological issues,
you should immediately pull it and say, we got
to look at this first. It's too cheap to do that,
though, Gibbs. It's so cost effective, who cares?
It's probably cheaper to write off a paycheck
to a lawsuit that may or may not get settled
than it is to stop using this as an additive
in your drinks. Yeah, we're going to. I'm going
to hold off. On my FDA rant until we get to it.
We have a whole episode planned on the FDA and
FEMA and all that other shit. Some of the alphabet
agencies. One of my personal favorites to rant
about. Titanium dioxide. Used as a whitening
agent in many processed foods, including candies,
desserts, and soups. It is the white part of
the white icing and Pop -Tarts. That's like the
most known use of titanium dioxide in food. The
EU has banned it as a food additive, citing genotoxicity
concerns, potentially damaging to DNA. It is
still allowed in the US, though California recently
banned it. It is an industrial cleaning agent.
So, this is one of those things that I wish I
didn't learn on this podcast. Yeah. Because that
used to be a guilty pleasure of mine was having
a Pop -Tart. Uh -huh. The maple and brown sugar
ones in particular were like a sweet spot with
me. Yeah. I used to love the s'mores ones. Mmm.
Yeah. And the titanium dioxide. It's in like
industrial strength degreasers. So what the fuck
is it doing in the food? Exactly. The whitening
agent? Uh -huh. How is that the easiest road
to make it whiter? I mean, fuck, look at us.
We're white as shit. I know. That's probably
where I get a lot of it. That's probably my problem.
That's why I can't tan anymore. Too many goddamn
Pop -Tarts. Yeah. Give him... Osai in chat said,
give me a minute. I'm going to throw up my brown
sugar Pop -Tart. Dude, that's wild. So just so
chat knows, I only looked up a few of these before.
is I wanted to react to these live. That one
actually makes me really sad. Like, I hope everyone
at home understands that, like, a Pop -Tart to
me of, like, a special connection, and that you
just ruined tomorrow's breakfast for me. Thank
you. You are welcome, sir. And now I have to
find some other way to start my work week. Yeah.
And to all those people at home that are listening
to the podcast that that morning had a Pop -Tart,
and now they're listening, I'm sorry. But potential
damage to DNA? Yeah. Genotoxicity. Like what?
Yeah. So I had to dig just a tiny bit. Commonly
used in auto lubricant products such as greases,
gears, gear and engine oil can also be found
in, if this loads, cosmetics, building materials.
Um, let's see. It's non flammable. Well, it's
a, it's a common ingredient in concrete. So there
you go. There's solid, uh, plastics and rubbers,
pigments and coatings. Uh, but it can be found
in things such as coffee creamer, uh, non, uh,
non -organic milks. Yeah. salad dressings wait
a minute if you just infant formula no yes no
we're feeding we start our kids off right that
that's why i really believe we should just go
breast milk if you can do it oh 100 throw me
the kid form was a full of shit that i learned
recently yeah oh my god it's a baby formula why
why does it matter what color it is if it's a
whitening agent why why yes Okay. Oh, he said
a chat is asking my question. Hold on. Which
creamer? Also, if you ruined a fair life milk
for me, I'm going to have a fucking problem.
If that stuff is in fair life, I live off that
shit as a man. That's trying to eat fewer calories
and drink more protein. That's. No, don't you
do this to me. I'm sorry, Gibbs. No, don't do
this. Yes. Fairlife milk products contain titanium
dioxide, specifically low -fat and skim milk
varieties, as well as some chocolate milk options.
God damn it, Bob. Now, I... I mean, I'm sure
my DNA can handle a little bit of Fairlife. I
don't know if I can give that stuff up. It's
so good. It's... That pisses me off. Okay, now.
I wonder if it's in the chocolate one. What's
that? I wonder if it's in the chocolate one.
Yes, it's specifically called out chocolate as
well. Yes, so there you go. Don't you shoot me
in the balls, why don't you? Yeah. Everything
sucks. I know. I'm going to let you take the
next one, but I do want to have a little sidebar
on this, so go ahead and take this one away.
So this one I do have a sidebar on as well. We
may have the same sidebar. probably very similar
um the u .s also allows artificial food dyes
uh dyes like red three which are recently banned
but as well as they will be banning things like
red 40 yellow five yellow six blue one blue two
now this i have actually seen before and i do
want to back up here it's linked to hyperactivity
in children and potential cancer risks in animal
studies may require it requires warning labels
in the eu and are banned in some european countries
They're found in candy things like Skittles,
M &Ms, although M &Ms in Sweden are banned due
to a trademark issue, not dyes. But they're in
things like cereals, processed snacks, and drinks.
Basically anything with a bright color to it
that's either red, blue, yellow, any one of the
primaries. So something that my girlfriend noticed,
because she works with kids that are on the spectrum.
She noticed years ago, mind you, this is like
four or five years ago, that some of the kids
have a... big reaction to certain food dyes yep
some kids are fine some kids totally are not
some kids whether it be adhd or add or even you
know on the autism spectrum or anything like
that it would totally for some of those kids
throughout their routine it would just throw
them completely out of whack yep and she always
mentioned something to me about it and like i
you know i i believe you're gonna be wrong i
never really looked into it until more recently
and like holy crap there are some kids that it's
like putting them on a drug like you would you
would think that oh it's just a dye in our minds
you're thinking oh it's just like something that's
like a colored water type of thing or maybe like
a light chemical but nothing crazy no some of
that stuff is nasty yeah some of these food dyes
are insane uh the sidebar i wanted to specifically
mention was these food dyes are getting banned
yes a lot of the companies have already started
to chemically or I'm sorry, submit chemical name
changes to get around the bans. A lot of the
lists are already coming out. That should not
be allowed. Money talks, buddy. Yeah, but the
FDA needs to make a rule that for one chemical
composition, it should have one name and that's
it. Yeah. That's it. So this is actually, my
mom's been fighting for this actually in the
local government for a while. uh because she
has like a brain and spinal fluid issue so for
her food is really important because she has
a severe msg allergy where if she has it she's
basically disabled for a day because yeah basically
it affects her neurologically so essentially
with her with something like that gets into her
system she has severe migraines and sometimes
can't move her limbs sometimes can't do other
things it's a little freaky um she's like one
of like 50 people or somebody in the world to
have that condition but it's her problem of like
msg is allowed to have like 20 different names
And sometimes I'll change it every few years.
So sometimes she'll go to a store, buy something,
and then come home, eat it, and then we'll wonder
why she's passed out on the couch and got to
pick her up, bring her upstairs, do whatever.
But it's something to where why the hell is it
mandated? There should be one name for one chemical
composition. That's it. Yep. Yeah, I stumbled
across the list. I'm going to try to remember
to put it up in the Discord later. the ones that
I was able to find, uh, because that's information
we're sharing. That's something I actually kind
of want to be on top of. Yeah. I feel like a
lot of people could use that information. Yeah.
Um, that's bullshit. Uh, that's, that's beyond
dirty and underhanded is trying to get around
a banning by changing the name of a chemical.
Fuck that. That's a hell of a precedent that
sets, right? I'm not stealing your shit. I'm
just tactically acquiring it. I don't know what
to tell you. Hey, it worked for Ukraine, right?
BHA and BHT, butylated. Oh, Jesus Christ. Hydroxin,
soul and butylated hydroxyl toluene. I got that
one. Preservatives used to prevent spoilage in
cereals, snacks and packaged foods. Animal studies
suggest potential leaks to cancer. It has been
banned in the EU and Japan. Let me just say this.
If you cannot easily pronounce it, it should
not be going in our mouths. If it cannot easily
come out of the mouth, it should not easily go
into the mouth. You know. Like penis. I knew
you were going to do it. I knew you were going
to do it. The problem is you do it also because
someone has a lisp that doesn't usually come
out of their mouth. So congratulations. Just,
it's like the Tyson effect. Penis. Anyways. But
no, I do agree with you that there are some things
to where, if it's even questionable. why the
hell is it allowed yeah especially like why aren't
we looking at other countries being like hey
if even they mind you this is japan who they're
not exactly known for eating the cleanest food
when 80 what they eat is seafood a lot of it
has like no no no japan has got some extremely
rigorous food safety requirements now now when
india if if some of these we already mentioned
india has banned some of this shit When a country
like India is saying, no, that's too dangerous
for our food. Buddy, they allow the street food
to exist in that country. And oh, my God. Have
you ever seen the videos of the average Indian
man? And it just shows like a video of Gandhi
just basically shitting straight diarrhea floating
like a hovercraft going down the street. The
entire street is brown. Everything is brown.
Oh, it's stuff like that. The street food videos
from India upset my stomach for three days. Just
the videos. It's so bad. My favorite one is the
guy that literally scratched inside of his asshole
and go serve people food with the same hand.
Yeah. I, you know, I never wanted to go to India
before, but now I really think we might want
to nuke it. I don't know. It's kind of. God,
at this point, if India and Pakistan go to war
at this point, it looks like they might at this
point, do we just kind of like step out of the
way? Be like, well, it's a problem to solve itself.
But no, what I was getting at with Japan is like.
with what their standards used to be with the
amount of fish that they ate and the amount of
crap that they ate out of the ocean, if even
they have had this stuff banned for a while,
why doesn't that raise a red flag? Yeah. You're
like, you know, they might be on to something.
Yeah. But no. Why would we? Yeah. I'll let you
take this next one. Oh. Good luck with that one.
Azotocarbonamide. Yeah. Or short, ADA. It's a
dough conditioner used in some breads and baked
goods. Also used to make yoga mats. Linked to
respiratory issues like asthma by the World Health
Organization banning the EU. Yes, I love chewing
on a yoga mat. You know what I was going to say?
Every time I have bread or something, I can think,
man, this does not taste as good as my yoga mat.
For whatever reason, it just doesn't compare.
It's just not as salty. I don't know. I just
can't deal with it. Got to have that taste of
fresh taint sweat to go down. Did you get asthma
because of the bread? Maybe, Osad. Maybe. You
may have a bread allergy because of the stuff
in the bread, buddy. You know what? That is something
that I don't know if it's because we report it
more often nowadays or maybe more people have
it, but I know a lot of people have asthma. Well,
not just asthma, but food allergies in general.
I'm not so sure it's because of the food itself
or because of the additives in the food. But
a lot of the food allergies that we have now
did not exist 50 years ago. I know. So, RBST
and RBGH, recombinant bovine somatropin growth
hormone, synthetic hormone given to cows to increase
milk production. linked to potential health issues
in cows and elevated levels of IGF -1 in milk,
which some studies suggest could be linked to
certain cancers in humans. It's been banned in
the EU, Canada, and other nations. Still legal
in the U .S., milk is often labeled if it's RBST
-free. By the way, to find milk that's RBST -free,
you have to basically buy specialty milk. I do
the regular milks you get at grocery stores.
They have it in it. I've tried. Yeah. That's
something I've tried before. Yeah. So drink milk
to get your dose of growth hormone. That's a
drink your milk. You grow up big and strong,
right? Wrong. They weren't wrong, but they didn't
mention the cancer. That's the problem. That's
why you're bigger. You got an extra couple pounds
of cancer on you. It's just a mass. It's okay.
It's benign. It's fine. If you let it go long
enough, it'll be a third arm. Don't worry about
it. It's fine. This is delicious. This one's
tasty. Give it to me, Gibbs. It's so tasty. It's
so tasty. Could you not? I don't know what's
wrong with you. How many times have you dropped
as a child? So much. Only twice. Only twice,
what, down three flights of stairs? Two. Okay.
Fair enough. Anyways, besides the point, there's
also chlorine -washed chicken, the practice of
washing chicken with chlorine. Would you quit
it? Goddamn. But... Basically, there is the practice
in different factories of basically washing the
chicken in chlorine baths to kill off bacteria.
That has banned the EU over concerns it can mask
poor hygiene practices. I will tell you this.
Some of the known chickens, I have friends that
raise chickens, that slaughter them, do everything.
If you do it right, you don't need to chlorine
wash them. You don't need to do any of that.
So if other companies are doing it, it's because
they're probably doing what they consider the...
Free -range chickens which are like 10 ,000 chickens
at a big warehouse and they call it free -range
and they basically never give them Sun Never
give them air never give them whatever they just
fatten them up and then let them die or kill
them But they get so big that they basically
fall over break their legs then they die You
really don't need to do that if you're doing
it, right? So the fact that they do it means,
you know, they are not screening this stuff.
They're not doing it properly That's it's really
inherent with the problem when you're trying
to deal, you know, several hundred thousand pounds
of chicken a day Mm hmm. Is really there's just
no manpower. There's no way to do that effectively.
So this is kind of like the natural problem with
it. So it's a damn shame that, you know, our
standards are better with it. But. It isn't chlorine
is not they were talking about that also could
be like a carcinogen. Mm hmm. So just saying.
You'd have to fact check me on this, but I believe
it's one of the ones that is fat soluble. And
that's why it's such an issue. I didn't know
that. I might be thinking of something else.
So please fact check me on that one. But if I'm
wrong, please let me know. So what I'm hearing
is if I spend enough time in a pool and I cut
me open, I could taste the chlorine. Possibly.
Okay. That's a different, should be a different
type of chlorine. Oh, fair enough. Yeah. Oh,
sidebar, since you mentioned pools, did you know
if you're in a swimming pool and you can smell
chlorine, it's not actually the chlorine you're
smelling. Yep. You're smelling the chemical reaction
between chlorine and all the pee in the water.
Yep. There's your fun fact for the day. I just
ruined swimming pools for you. See, that's why
you just don't have public pools. Nah. I can't
do public pools anymore. Water parks. I can't
do water parks anymore because of that. That
and Cryptosporidia. That exists. What? Cryptosporidia.
The fuck is that? The disease that you get from
a water park because people don't know how to
wipe their butt. I'll let you look that one up.
It's fun. All right. Why do I feel like that's
not fun? Oh, it's not. There's a water park in
Columbus in central Ohio. Big water park. It
used to get shut down like every other week for
crypto outbreaks. So what I'm hearing is you
go to a water park in Columbus and you end up
on an episode of House. Basically, yeah. Okay.
Yeah. Fair enough. The grass loophole, not the
poophole. Explain the generally recognized as
safe GRAS designation in the US that under this
system. manufacturers can declare substances
safe for use in food without mandatory FDA pre
-market approval. Highlighting that this system
relies heavily on industry information that the
FDA has not reviewed the safety of the food additives.
This is used as a loophole to get around FDA
requirements. So they can pay people to do the
studies just like, Marlboro paid doctors to say
cigarettes are safe back in the 60s and 70s.
Yeah. And they can use the grass loophole to
say, yes, this is generally recognized as safe
because we only did a limited study and we saw
no degradation in health. Yeah. If you do it
like, oh, yeah, we observed him for a week. We
gave him one -tenth the dose and he seemed fine.
So, like, it's safe. I mean, it's not a big deal.
you know or they'll do it in relative to other
things like oh yeah it's safe as what relative
to what jumping off a 30 -story building like
yeah it's safer than that so it's generally safe
yeah using using uh legal loopholes when it comes
to food safety probably not the best avenue just
my just my two cents when we do the fda episode
you guys are going to understand this is something
i looked up a while ago tyson chicken spends
more money on hiring lawyers to get around safety
standards than they do on actually having safety
standards. So, because I watched a documentary
on that years ago. Yeah. I don't buy Tyson chicken
for that reason specifically. You know, every
day I get older, there's another day that I understand
why people are into homesteading. Uh -huh. Like,
I get it. Yeah. I really do. Yeah. So outside
of using legal loopholes, lobbying power, I think
lobbying should just go the fuck away. It should
not exist. That is something that we actually
covered on a previous episode. Yeah. I had a
solution for that one. Did it involve a guillotine?
Well, we can. That would be the final step on
that one. So basically how it really should be
with any of these companies is it just should
be all be done on a public platform, a public
website where any official inquiry or lobbying
should be done. You know, obviously no funds
can exchange or no quid pro quo. None of that.
It should be the case of like, hey, I work for
it. Let's just say let's pick on them again.
I work for Tyson Chicken. And, you know, if you
pass this law with this chemical, this is going
to affect my business in this way. And this is
what we have to do to get around it. Help me
out. Maybe this maybe a different law would be
better or vice versa. Cool. As long as it's all
out in the public. I really don't think lobbying
is bad. It's because it's done in secret with
a quid pro quo of, hey, you get this law passed
for me, and I'll give you a lake house. And they
wonder somehow after these politicians can work
in the office for 10 years and then be worth
$200 million, that's why. Well, that and stock
trading. Oh, yeah. I do like the Pelosi Act.
Have you heard about that? Well, which I've heard
of like three different kinds. The one where
they gave it the acronym for the allowance of
stock trading. It's actually the acronym is Pelosi
because of the bullshit she did. Oh, yeah. Dumb
bitch. Lack of transparency. Not wrong. You know
what though? Correction. She's not dumb. No,
she's not. She's incredibly smart. She's very
smart. The problem is she's a hypocrite and she's
an asshole. So that's the problem. She claims
to be for the poor and anti -wealthy and against
almost like a Bernie style, but yet she's literally
part of the oligarchy. So, like, come on. You
know. But anyways. A thought just went into my
head. The creepy -ass new guy that's head of
the European World Union with the one weird eye.
I don't remember his name. oh are you talking
about the wh no you're talking about um oh geez
oh crap he looks creepy as fuck he looks like
a bad guy out of the comic books yeah yeah it's
yeah um it'll take me a minute to remember to
remember who it is yeah uh he was saying that
access to water is not a basic human right beyond
like minimum needs Well, he and Dasani would
agree. Yeah. He was saying that people should
have enough to drink, to bathe, but not enough
for a pool, not enough for car washes. But then
when you look at his house, one of his houses,
he's got like a couple of big pools. It's funny.
Waterfall fountains and all this other stuff
and outdoor showers. Any single politician or
the person that wants to tell you how to regulate
your life means they want more for themselves
every single time. It is never, ever, ever for
the sake of safety or environmental health every
single time they lie. How do you know? Because
you look at their stock portfolio, you look at
their money, and every single time they just
use fair monger to get more money. Look at someone
like AOC, just saying. She said she was for the
people, for nothing, does all this warmongering,
and all of a sudden, hey, she's somehow worth
a lot more. She's only been in office for a few
years. And she did it without OnlyFans. You know,
miraculously, I expected her to break that record.
A lot of people hope for it, too. Lack of transparency,
highlighting the issues with transparency and
the interactions between the food industry of
the lobbyists and the government officials. There
have been a lot of reports that have talked about
all the meetings, like you were just saying,
that did not happen publicly. There are a lot
of descriptions. vagueness that are left out
that we never hear about deals that get made
that we never are privy to laws and changes that
get made that go off the books and then happen
without us knowing all the time. We, we can't
know if we don't know. I know it sounds stupid,
but it's, it's such a, basic concept we have
this weird problem in the u .s where they say
ignorance is no excuse for the law but yet we're
never notified or told when the laws of the law
yeah it's our responsibility to be almost clairvoyant
and be able to telepathically read our lawmakers
minds and be like you know oh, tomorrow potassium
bromate will be illegal. Like, how the fuck are
we supposed to know this shit? Number one. And
also number two, all this stuff is purposely
done behind closed doors, so you'll never know.
We'll never know. You'll never know. It's just,
it's whatever. It's just, you know, it's this
ethereal thing. Yeah. And who knows if the law
is ever going to be enforced? That's another
topic we've talked about several times on this,
which is there are so many other laws here that
they might be happening, but if they're enforced
or not, does it really matter? Does it really?
Oh, I wanted to go back and touch on something
real quick. We were talking about all the chemicals
that are used in food. That's totally not even
mentioning the foods that are made entirely of
chemicals. Like one of our favorite things, ramen
noodles. If you've never watched how ramen noodles
are made, I highly encourage you to watch that
process. Those things are like 90 % chemicals.
They're delicious, and I'll be the first to say
it. But fucking hell, they are just hardened
chemicals in a pouch with salty powdered goodness.
Why do you think it's a dollar? Not even a dollar.
Recent politicians, why do you think it's now
a dollar? You should get that shit for 30 cents
each or 50 cents. I remember, I'm dating myself,
I remember back when it was 12 cents a bag. Fuck
off. Oh, my God. Back in my day. Imagine having
a week's worth of food for a couple of dollars.
Jesus Christ. Yeah. The whole big box used to
be $2. That's insane. That wasn't that long ago,
really. Yeah. See, now those are buck each. Wow.
At least around here. But you know what? Something
to consider, too. If you want to talk about...
shit that's in food. Have you ever seen the documentaries
on how the McDonald's chicken nuggets are made?
Unfortunately. Yeah. Again, I am a pro meat guy.
I love eating meat. I will tell you right now,
after I watch that, I can't watch it again or
else I will feel too guilty. There are certain
things that you just... And they add a bunch
of chemicals and other shit in there. You know
what the sad part is? In a week, I'll still go
have some. I'll admit it. Since you brought up
McDonald's, I have moved very far away from eating
McDonald's in the past couple months. Mostly
due, take it for what you will, the video that
came out of the burger molding from McDonald's
or Burger King and the one not molding from McDonald's.
In the course of a month, and you can do this
experiment for yourself if you want, go buy a
cheap burger from Burger King and get one from
McDonald's. Set them in the same covered dish,
if you would like, and just leave them untouched
for a month and watch what happens. The mold
will not grow on the McDonald's burger under
any circumstance. It will not grow. It will not
shrink. It will not. Other than harden, it won't
do anything. So I have moved away from eating
at McDonald's. Burger King tastes just fine to
me. It's actually kind of better, I'll be honest.
At least the one around here. I'll be real with
you. It's one of those things to where, realistically,
I always recommend people. I wouldn't go out
of my way to eat any fast food regardless, but
I will admit. Quite a few of them you can you
can taste the preservatives you can taste all
the oil and all the shit in it It's ridiculous
the levels that they go to for those preservatives
And it's terrifying if even bacteria doesn't
want to eat your shit like no Bacteria will eat
almost anything and it even it says you know
there's a problem if it turns up its nose at
you I I don't know if it you haven't played fallout
for the video game. Have you? No, I have not.
So all I can think about is when you talk about
that McDonald's burger not getting moldy. There
are a couple of spots of Fallout 4. Mind you,
this is hundreds of years in the future after
nuclear war and everything. There's a couple
of automated food dispensers you can go to. And
you can get a perfectly preserved piece of pie
from several hundred years ago. And it comes
out and it's like a big event and everything
because if you're a vault dweller, you've never
had fresh food like that. You've never had something
like that. And all I can think of is... that
must be mcdonald's like all the apple fucking
things or whatever like the little packages or
whatever oh yeah because it's just there's no
way but the sad part is it could theoretically
yeah and hey listen those holiday pies from mcdonald's
let me tell you something buddy those things
fuck they are delicious i know i i am a fat kid
and i can eat those things all day i i can't
help myself with them I understand how terrible
they are. I think it's a sad part of like in
our foods because we eat so many chemicals, we're
used to it. It's when you don't eat that stuff
for a while and then you come back to it, you're
like, oh, yeah, what the fuck am I eating? And
that's part of the problem, I guess, with our
food is once you get used to those chemicals
and the amount of sugar and the salt, it's when
you step away from it, everything else doesn't
taste that good. But then once you kind of clean
that palate and you come back to it, you realize,
oh, this is this is actually fucking terrible.
Yeah, and when you're doing a palate cleanse,
you need seven to ten days for your taste buds
to fully change out and adjust. Oh, yeah. So
it's not a quick deal. No. But we can go into
the part talking about the American foods that
have been banned globally, if you would like.
Why the fuck not? Yeah. So you have. There's
quite a few different band ingredients and foods
that are banned basically everywhere. Most of
our breakfast cereals is through the BHA slash
BHT and the artificial dyes. I was going to say
Captain Crunch. That's that's a big one. In Canada,
there's like one version. Yeah. And it's just
like the regular Captain Crunch. I think the
best one I saw was Cinnamon Toast Crunch is basically
not available anywhere else because of just the
amount of sugar, the amount of cinnamon, and
other crap that's in it. That's sad. That's one
of my favorite cereals, too. Oh, I am a cinnamon
whore. I'll be honest with you. I fucking love
cinnamon. I put it on a ton of stuff, but I'll
be honest. I no longer buy it. I can't. Because
it's too much sugar, too much fat, and too much
shit. Um, but I just for the hell of it because
I have friends from from europe and other countries
and I chat with them Cinnamon toast crunch is
like literally not a thing anywhere else if it's
in other countries see I have had Um, well my
girlfriend I went to like a like a world food
store a while ago. I tried the cinnamon um Food
like cinnamon, uh cereal type thing like a cinnamon
snack type thing that was from japan And I was
like, holy shit. Does this taste way better?
And it had, like, six ingredients. And I couldn't
believe it. Grant you, the box was, like, eight
fucking dollars. Like, I wouldn't recommend going
and getting it every day. The curiosity killed
me. And I was like, holy Jesus. Why can't we
have this here? And it's because of these fucking
regulations of bullshit. Yeah. It's crazy. No
chemicals in there. And it tastes better. Wow.
It tasted great. Crazy, huh? I know. There's
also snack cakes and pastries. Yeah. All of our
little Debras. Yeah, those are all banned. The
thing that kills me are the devil dogs. I fucking
love those things. And I know they're terrible.
I know all I'm just eating is just... Might as
well just pour a box of fucking Drano down the
gullet. Mine are Star Crunches. I've never heard
of those. What the hell is a Star Crunch? Star
Crunch from Little Debbie? I couldn't even tell
you what that is. Chocolate, caramel, and crisped
rice. Okay. And some nougat. Oh. Okay. Buddy,
I'm going to have to send you a care package.
I'm just scared what else would be in the package.
Don't ask. I know from personal experience that
sodas are very different, and ketchup too, over
in the Middle East especially. When I was over
in that area many years ago, the ketchup tasted
very different, as did the sodas. Probably a
lot less sugar and almost like a lot less salt.
Yeah. Yeah. The ketchup tasted extremely different.
Like it almost didn't have any vinegar. I want
to say. Oh, like it was almost just like a tomato
paste. Almost at least the kind that I had. So
it was not good. I feel like for a long time.
Yeah. I mean, it probably is better. Fun fact.
Do you know why? Things like ketchup exist. And
sauces for meat. I'm assuming to cover up the
smell of either bad meat or meat and stuff like
that. That's exactly why it was originally invented.
To cover up the rancidity of meat. Yeah. There's
your trivia for the day. So, yeah. Lots of stuff
that we have here is banned in other countries.
I'm curious if you sent a care package to somebody.
If it would even make it through customs. I know
it depends on the country. Depends on what's
in it and what's disclosed and all that other
stuff. There are some things I know that you
can't cross the border with. Depending on where
you're coming from. Yeah, like I know bananas
are not allowed in, what is it, New Zealand?
Because there are no fruit flies there. So that's
a fun one. And different types of cheeses and
other stuff like that. The one thing I do want
to say. is sodas were on the list here. Now,
one of the things I want to remind people of,
I don't know if people are aware of this, but
we used aspartame back in the 90s to 2000s for
Diet Coke. We still do. Do you know, because
I think you might have been around or been aware
of this, what happens when aspartame is at above
120 degrees over the course of multiple hours?
Do you know what becomes? Formaldehyde. Correct.
And they wonder why a bunch of our soldiers got
very, very sick and had issues. It's because
they spent not just weeks, not just months, but
years drinking part formaldehyde. Yep. Which
is great. That's awesome. I'm so glad we took
care of our troops on that one. What the fuck?
Yeah. Hey, man, the VA, it's a whole different
chance for our vets to die for our country. Your
formaldehyde poisoning is not service related.
Nope, not at all. Oh, man. But there's just a
lot of all of our processed food in America.
Yeah. It's all just bad in other worlds. Yeah,
and like I had mentioned in the opening, the
American diet as a whole, over especially like
the last 50 years, has moved away from things
like whole, unprocessed foods, like that farm
-to -table mentality. we now have an almost total
reliance on processed and ultra -processed foods.
I saw a thing, and if I can find the video, I'll
link it in the Discord. They were showing the
amount of ingredient -based food or type food
that is purchased or that was purchased in the
80s versus that same type that is purchased now.
So it's your base ingredients that you would
buy to make meals. And in the 80s, it consisted
of at least 70 % of the groceries. Now it's about
20. Yeah, I believe it. So that's pretty rough.
You know what? I was thinking about this as we're
doing the podcast, and I really feel like this
is something with American culture that has been
weird. Have you noticed that in American culture?
everything that was considered average for common
folk has become a privileged thing for wealthy
people but yet all the things that were privileged
for wealthy people are considered for the common
folk now like for example things like lobster
uh were were considered for poor people now it's
a rich person's thing um and there's like a few
other things that are escaping my mind but also
vice versa you look at things like fast food
and quick food it used to be like oh while you're
going out to a restaurant or somewhere else that's
for rich people we make our own food But now
it's almost becoming 180 to where like to find
farm to table shops and restaurants and things
that get fresh food. It's like a rich person
thing. Like when my girlfriend and I a couple
months ago went to like a farm to table breakfast.
Mind you. Wasn't cheap, was it? Do you want to
take, mind you, no alcohol in this breakfast?
Do you want to guess how much we spent on that
with tip? What'd you get? I got chicken and waffles.
And she got, I want to say it was like a typical
like bacon, eggs, toast or something like that.
And we each got like orange juice, milk, something
like that. In your area? Yeah. I'll say with
tip, I'll say 60 bucks. 80. And that was, mind
you, I live in an expensive area, but it's not
like super expensive. So that's why we haven't
gone back. um but it was one of those things
to where it's become this weird phenomenon america
where you have to be wealthy or at least have
your finances in order to be able to afford to
get farm to table stuff on the regular at least
maybe where i live maybe where you live it's
a little cheaper and you could do it more often
but finding farm to table you know restaurants
and even just markets around here it's kind of
bananas and they charge an extreme amount So
it's becoming a rich hobby to become a homesteader.
There's a market over by my friend. I won't say
their name on here. You know them. You met them
when you were here. There's a market over by
her place. Let me pull them up right now. They
specialize in selling. locally raised, um, farm,
uh, produce essentially. Uh, but like they're,
they're beef. Let me look at the beef real quick.
Cause this is so, okay. Um, New York strip, they're
selling it for 1799 a pound. Damn. Um, Porter
houses, the same. Ground chuck, $5 .99 a pound.
Ground round, $6 .99 a pound. T -bones, $17 .99.
Sirloin, $10 a pound. They do sausage in bulk,
$2 .99 a pound. They also do... Boneless or is
that bone in? That's boneless. Boneless chicken
breast, $3 .29 a pound. So, I mean, that's all
locally raised. They also have locally made cheeses.
They have eggs. And they're reasonably priced.
They do not have $7 a dozen eggs right now. Their
eggs are like $3 a dozen. So. That's better than
some places. That's a lot better than a lot of
places. I'm going to send you just on discord
while we're on here. So to give you an idea of
the prices in my area, I'm going to send you,
this is, this is the prominent butchery or butcher
shop. That's in my area. I'm just sending you
to their shop thing. I want to get your live
reaction on here. Okay. You look at their prices
and you might happen to know the prices in your
area. And I'm curious to see how you would react
to some of their prices because yo, yeah. Oh,
yeah, I'm seeing your face right now. So for
the people that are watching, his jaw basically
just hit the floor. So to give people an example,
I'm not going to name the business because, to
be fair, in my area, they have very good quality
meat. However, to get three pounds of sirloin
tips, three pounds of center cut pork chops,
five pounds of ground beef, and two whole chickens,
it's $100. Good God. And that's something to
where, realistically, if you have a family of,
what, three, they'll probably last, it's what,
maybe a week's worth? Maybe two weeks? A week
to two? Okay, let me pull these guys up. Do you
have their menu up? Yeah, the one that I sent
you, yep. Yeah, okay. So how many of what? So
three pounds of sirloin tips. Three pounds of...
Sirloin tips. Well, they don't have sirloin tips
listed here. They probably have them. Would it
be under anything else? Maybe I'll find an easier
one for you to look up here. Okay. Okay. So I
have a better list here. This might be easier.
Three pounds of center cut pork chops. Or just
three pounds of pork chops. Pork chops. All right.
Let me get the old, as a friend of mine used
to call it, the crank -a -later. Sounds like
something you'd do in private. Jesus. Right.
Okay, pork chops. Boneless? Center cuts, yeah.
I believe they'd be boneless. Yeah, boneless.
How many pounds? Three. Okay. Three pounds of
ground beef. Three pounds of ground. So, okay.
One pound of bacon. Bacon, bacon, bacon, bacon.
Bacon, bacon, bacon. Bacon right there. Two pounds
of Italian sausage. Italian. Two whole chickens.
Realistically, that's probably four pounds of
chicken. Whole chickens. He's got them right
here. Oh, cool. And then two pounds of shaved
steak. Shaved steak. Yes. I will go with probably
like round steak would probably be the closest
thing. Yeah. So how much does that come out to
you for you? $71 .18. $90. And there's no food
tax here. So it's $71 .18. We have a food tax
here. So this would be closer to $100. Yeah,
that's $71. Yeah. But anyways, the point I wanted
to make with this is in America, in order to
try and eat healthy, it's rather difficult, actually.
We have several local markets around here that
they're not great, but they have some stuff,
but they're all very expensive. Getting homemade
cheese is damn near impossible around here. To
further that point, what I wanted to bring up...
Because of the scarcity difficulty of getting
healthy food or healthy food alternatives. Is
the rising chronic diseases in this country.
And it's one of those things to where do we blame
people for what they eat in a lot of ways? Yeah.
However, there has to be a bit of understanding
here where. For a lot of people, it's actually
difficult to find healthy alternatives for stuff.
Especially if you grow up. with the American
food system. And I will say this. Thanks, Michelle
Obama, for completely fucking over the high school.
I mean, Michael Obama. I'm not going there. Not
even going there. But... Now you just derailed
my whole time. No, no, don't you dare. No, no,
no, no, no, no, no. FBI, I like my life. I'm
good. I don't want to get whacked. I'm good.
I'm good. I have nothing against the Clintons
or anyone else. I'm not getting involved. But
what I was getting at is, unfortunately, there's
not much access in many cases for people to have
healthy alternatives to food. Yeah. It's not
so much as what they eat. It's what they're able
to eat. And the other problem is with a lot of
these foods, they're designed to keep you hungry.
They're not designed to be satiated. They're
not designed to give you that protein take. They're
not designed to be filling. The issue is, A lot
of kids eat very calorically dense and empty
things. And even people, too, as well. But once
you're on to eating that way nutritionally, it
almost never ends. Let me butt in here. Oatmeal.
Oatmeal is one of the worst things that you can
eat, especially as a breakfast thing. Yeah. Because
it spikes your insulin and can put you at your
body. Into a chemically induced fight or flight
mode. There has been a study. Yes, oatmeal to
buddy. There has been a study that was done.
They gave kids a heavy protein like omelet for
breakfast. They gave another group oatmeal and
they gave another group just like whatever. They
checked blood levels. And they allowed them to
eat as much as they wanted as often as they wanted.
The oatmeal group constantly had to eat. They
were not getting filled. They weren't getting
sustained. The omelet group, they almost never
asked for more. So they were full. They were
sustained. They were being held over. Blood levels
were low. They had no cortisol, I think it is.
Low cortisol, yeah. Yeah, they were much better
off physiologically. So high protein, higher
good cholesterol, HDL I think it is. Those are
the types of meals you want to gravitate towards.
Things like oatmeal, bad juju. It's one of those
things, what I will tell people in my experience
with that, oatmeal as in the Quakers, the stuff
over the counter, the quick, easy stuff, You
can get protein oatmeal, which is completely
different. It behaves like oatmeal, but it's
actually not oatmeal. That stuff is half decent.
But really, anytime you start your day, you got
to start with some proteins, your fats, your
carbs, you know, in your protein. You have to.
If you don't, you're going to be craving. You're
not going to be. Well, unless you're doing a
carnivore diet. Well, that's that's totally different.
That's a specialized. You know, if you're on
a carnivore diet, all the power to you. That's
something I'm kind of considering doing. It's
the problem is you got to really commit to it.
Yeah. And it's not easy, but no, that being said,
it's not for everybody, but for some people definitely
could work. But just, just be careful and be
aware of what you're eating. Cause give you an
idea with my experience. So when, when my girlfriend
is home, she usually likes to cook breakfast
when she's not around. I'll be honest. I'm the
world's worst morning person. I fucking hate
waking up. So I just grab whatever and go and
I just kind of deal with my day or I'll end up
just sitting there and be like, oh, great. I
can't blur. Well, just grab one of these and
like a protein bar and out the door and it's
fine. It's at least locale. But when she's home
and she makes something like you sit like an
omelet is a big thing with us because I have
chickens. We have fresh eggs. Or something else
that's protein based. My day is so much fucking
better. Like I'm starting off on the right foot,
getting going. I feel better. It's one of those
weird things where as in America, because everything's
such a rush, we don't take the time to make food
in a proper fashion. And really because everything's
always on the go. Businesses usually don't give
you enough time to get a proper lunch. You have
to grab something quick or do whatever. There's
a reason why in other countries, why they take
one or two hours for lunch. It's short. Yes,
I can make fun of the French and they're lazy
and they're whatever. I get it. But at the same
point, I got to give them the credit. They give
a two -hour lunch so they can go home and fucking
make food and take a quick nap and do whatever
and then come back and work. And you know what?
I get it. I don't necessarily know it, but I
get it. They also have it right with their time
off policies. I'll give them that. And vacation
and stuff. Oh, yeah. It's almost like if you
treat your employees well, they work better.
Exactly. It's a weird concept. Imagine the shock.
Happy employees make good products. Who would
have thought? Apparently nobody in this country.
But getting back to the point, over 70 % of U
.S. adults are overweight or obese. Present.
We're weighing that graph down with gravity,
let me tell you. But the problem becomes when
the number reaches that high, yes, I would say
a majority of those people that are overweight
or obese, it's due to the culture, which I agree
with. But at the same point, it must have to
do with our system as well, with what we're allowed
to eat. Because when everything is so saturated,
you can't get away from unhealthy food. It's
almost impossible. Uh, that reminds me, there
was a study done not long ago. The food that
we eat today is so calorically deficient compared
to the food that we had 50 years ago. Uh, like
our fruits and vegetables, uh, retain something
like 30 to 40 % of the nutrition. Uh, not, not
calorically dense, nutritionally deficient is
what I meant to say. Yeah, our food is less nutritious
today than it was 40, 50 years ago. Now, do you
know why? The way it's been processed and grown
and... Not just that. Words. It's also the fact
that we do not, as a country, do well enough
in terms of fertilizing and basically adding
nutrition back into the soil. One of the problems
is with any single plant, any single fruit, vegetable,
anything, it pulls everything from the soil.
Well, would you every single year deplete what's
in that soil and do not replant it, redo whatever
you're trying to just grow in bulk on mass? You're
not worried about the quality of it. At your
point, a potato is a potato. You don't give a
shit how good it is. Not because you're paid
by the pound. You're not paid by the quality,
at least for the most part, which I know. Yes,
I'm where this quality standards and other stuff,
but generalizing. So for most of these big companies,
they don't care. So what if the tomato they grow
is half as nutritionally dense? They just want
to be a bigger tomato. That's all they really
care about. A lot of them care about the size
of the product. So they get more per dollar,
more per weight or per volume. And that is a
big issue. I noticed this because so growing
up on this property here, we had horses and we
used to use the manure to grow cherry tomatoes.
And I will tell you, I'm not somebody that even
likes tomatoes that much, but the cherry tomatoes
we could grow here. They were sweet. They were
almost like candy. But they were natural. Really?
Oh, yeah. They were smaller like cherry tomatoes.
They're basically native to the area. Well, yeah.
I mean, I grew cherry tomatoes in my old place,
but I can't stand tomatoes. I like pretty much
everything tomato -based, but I can't stand tomatoes.
Same. They were the only tomatoes that my grandfather
grew them. But it's because they were 100 % natural
from the area. No GMO, no nothing. He had the
seeds since like the 70s. And oh, wow. You just
grow them every year. Same thing. I'm so mad
at him. I can't find whatever type of carrot
he grew as he used to grow carrots like this
long. And they were they were super juicy, though.
Like, so I this is a little fun story. I went
camping with a bunch of friends and I brought
with me as a snack because I'm a fucking weirdo.
I had a five gallon bucket of all of all the
carrots that we just grew because I wanted to
munch on them. Well, we had about a five hour
drive. over to the other side of my state to
go camping. I was so busy having fun, chat with
my friends, doing stuff, I ate about half the
bucket worth of carrots. Let me tell you, the
sheer panic on my face when my piss was bright
orange. Thinking, mind you, I'm out in the woods,
we are away from civilization, we are like out
there in the mountains. And I was peeing in the
background of the carrier going, am i gonna die
as it's just bright orange so lesson learned
if you if you if you drink too much i said drink
too much yes james drink no if you eat too many
carrots your piss can be orange um right but
those carrots are so fucking good it was uh fun
fact if you drink a bunch of red food dye and
then go pee it'll be red you can use that as
a prank just uh fyi a prank or a good way to
go home from work Both. Jesus Christ. I want
to do that and then go into like a public restroom
at a Walmart and just scream bloody murder and
just pee everywhere. That's a weird kink. I haven't
heard of that one before. Jesus Christ. Oh my
God. I don't like that. I'm going to start calling
you the piss master. I am not piss master. Thank
you very much. He's weird. But anyways, in America,
we have a big problem with type 2 diabetes or
even diabetes in general. That's just due to
the over -processed sugar that we see. So much
sugar in everything. Cardiovascular disease,
that's huge. Your heart attacks, strokes, high
blood pressure. Just due to all of the calorically
dense foods just clotting up our cardiovascular
system. A lot of cancers, metabolic syndromes.
Fatty liver disease, that's something that's
really, really... That's getting real bad. Yeah,
because our livers are working. Non -alcoholic
fatty liver. Yeah, because our livers are working
overtime to try to figure out how to process
all this stuff. What people need to realize is
your entire body goes into almost part of the
process of digesting your food. Everything has
to pull from it. So the problem is if you got
parts of your body having to work double or triple
overtime just to try to fucking figure out all
those random chemicals and shit, it's got to
go somewhere. Not everything goes out in your
stool and your urine. Some of it is retained,
which is a problem. Yeah. You know, which that's
a fun thing. When some people start losing weight,
they get really sick. And it's because stuff
that's been held over in the fat cells starts
to break down. Their body doesn't know how to
deal with it. It's like when a bunch of druggies
start to lose weight, they get high again. What?
That could happen. I never do that. Yeah. Some
drugs are fat soluble and they get stored in
fat. What? And if they lose a bunch of weight,
they can get really messed up. Which ones? I
have no idea. I don't remember which ones off
the top of my head. But there are a couple of
them. That must be crazy. That it will store
in fat. And then if you lose weight, you can
get high just from losing weight. Jesus. So.
Imagine that euphoric runner's high. It's the
normal run. Then all of a sudden the LSD kicks
in again. And then you're really running from
the inner demons of the dragons and stuff like
that. The inner demons have become outer demons.
Oh my God. That'd be a great way to lose weight
though. Imagine that. Every five pounds you lose,
you have a bad trip that makes you run another
five or 10 miles. It's like a self -fulfilling
prophecy. Oh man. That'd be one way of doing
it. And there is another note here about potential
links to neurological conditions and mental health
disorders. I would say that that is probably
a bigger thing than even we understand as of
today. Anxiety and depression. I would say probably
anxiety almost even a little bit more when it
comes to. So anxiety, depression. I'll even go
down the slippery slope and say a lot of the
potential gender issues. that are being linked
to mental health issues, autism and the rates
of diagnosis of it could be linked. I'm saying
could be linked to the chemicals and the trickle
down effect of all the stuff that's in our food.
Because at the end of the day, we do not know
what's going into our bodies, altering stuff
in our bodies and being passed on. especially
you don't know how they're interacting with previous
medications anything else that's going on if
you have any other deficiencies as well you know
it's people don't understand you have several
hundred different variables when it comes to
your nutrition your diet interacting with the
several hundred variables of what you're eating
so it's like when you multiply that out congratulations
you have 10 000 different fucking things to look
at and there's no doctor in the world that's
going to 100 know 100 of what's going on So,
unfortunately, like, yes, nutrition is well studied,
but we still don't even know 100 % of what's
happening. So, you know, good luck ruling any
of that out. Like, it definitely, it must be
a contributing factor at this point. And especially
with the amount of people that have changed their
entire life around just by changing a diet. Like,
Michaela Peterson, for example, Jordan Peterson's
daughter, she had severe neurological and Like
issues with her antibodies and stuff like that.
Whatever that's called. Like autoimmune type.
Thank you. I couldn't think of the word. But
she switched to a carnivore diet and all that
cleared up within a matter of weeks. And now
she's purely carnivore. Really? Yeah. And because
she lives in Canada, it's better than America.
But like, I think she probably moved to America
at this point. But like, because of where they
live. They did have access to some stuff, but
they still had chemicals and things. I wonder
if there's a lot of people that because they
don't have access to actually clean food, they're
always going to have these symptoms and these
side effects or to some point it's contributing
to some factor. I'll never know how much, but
I will say I think the number one problem I see
for most people is you're going to see sleep
issues with the way we eat, especially with the
amount that we eat just before we go to bed and
when that stuff kind of hits you. And definitely,
I would say anxiety is up there too with a lot
of people that just have too much sugar, too
much stuff, too many highs and lows and crashes
throughout the day. It just completely displaces
your mood. Insulin resistance is a big thing.
100%. Yep. So yeah, pay attention to what you
put in your mouth and put in your body. Read
your food labels. Try to shop local as best you
can. Do what you can, where you can, when you
can, how you can. Oh, yeah. Try to change your
life for the better. And so as someone that like
I've lost a bunch of weight once and I'm in the
process of doing it again. And I have a few other
friends that have lost a ton of weight. In America,
it's tough. There's no doubt about it. But sorry,
something's caught my throat. But one of the
things I would say is like. In this country,
it's very hard to actually eat healthy, like
100%. All you do is find better substitutions.
I joke it's, I'm not eating healthy, I'm eating
less bad. Yeah. And that's kind of the way you
have to look at it, is make the minor changes.
That's how a lot of us do that. But that's all
you can do, because no matter what you eat in
this country, it's going to be bad. Unless you're
like literally doing grilled chicken and rice,
and you basically have to grow the rice yourself
at that point, slaughter the chicken yourself,
like besides that, it's going to have crap in
it. So, I hate to say it. But at least it's not
Indian street food crap that you're eating. No,
no, it's not literal feces. That doesn't step
up. I mean, God. But I guess the good thing going
forward is as controversial as RFK is, at least...
Brainworm. As controversial as Captain Brainworm
is, he is also trying to make the right decisions
in terms of food and making people aware and
holding some of these companies accountable.
Now, whether it will actually happen, I really
don't know, you know, the presidency, you know,
this, this term is still young with this president
and, and with RFK and all that. And so we're
going to see, but hopefully we're, we're barely
over a hundred days right now. Yeah. I feel like
a lot's already happened. So it feels like it's
already been four years. What are you talking
about? Well, the last one didn't seem to ever
fucking end, but that that's a whole nother COVID
thing with that. Yeah. Yeah, I guess. I will
say it's refreshing to see press conferences
from the White House. It's good to see questions
get asked and coherent answers coming out. And
I will give the Trump camp a bit of a thumbs
up for this point. They introduced the new media
seat where they have people from smaller media
companies. They come in and get a special seat
in the White House to ask questions, and they're
allowed to ask more questions. That way you get
new people always in there. Like Tim Pool was
in there the other day asking very important
questions. So I think that's great. I'm glad
they're doing it. Hopefully that will bring more
stuff up like our food issue with the FDA and
everything else going on. Yeah. We should have
all the listeners make true social accounts at
the president and at the president's staff and
have them do podcast people. Let us go up there
and ask questions. No. For the sake of both of
our careers, no. Let me ask the president questions.
No. You'd be asking him things like... Actually,
I don't even know if I can say that on the podcast.
You'd be asking him some wild stuff. Nah, I could
keep it professional. I'd probably get a poll
together and find out the good questions that
we would want asked. Fair enough. I could do
a job like that, right? Not cock it up too much.
Okay. That's good to know. Because I figured
your first question out of the gate would be
something ridiculous. Maybe not the first one.
Okay. Oh, man. But, yeah. What's that? I guess
that kind of wraps up what we're going to talk
about today. More or less. Did you have anything
else to add in? No, I was going to say, Chad,
if you have any questions, feel free to ask them
now while we kind of wrap this up. That way we
can answer them in the next couple of minutes
if you have any. What I was definitely going
to say is, you know, if you guys want to do a
little research at home, have fun looking up
and comparing the U .S. food standards to other
countries. We've done obviously a bit of research
here. But it is a very deep rabbit hole that
you can look forward and look through for hours
and hours. Oh, yeah. And it's something to where
I could not tell you all the details. We'd have
to spend a long time looking at it. One of the
things we will be discussing in the future is
our alphabet agencies, things like the FDA, FBI,
all that kind of stuff. And our best friends
at FEMA. Oh, God. The FDA part, that's why we
really didn't touch on it much here. We kind
of loosely touched on it. I have a whole goddamn
rant about the FDA. I'm sure you have one about
FEMA and a few other ones. That's probably going
to be a two -parter episode, to be honest with
you. It might be. I don't know if we'll be able
to do it all in two hours. Yeah. I really don't
think so. Yeah, I think the only thing I know
Oside was asking was what creamer had the titanium
stuff in it. Oh, yeah. I don't know if you, I
know you had that up. Oh, gotta sneeze. No, no,
not during the podcast. Oh, thank God. No sneeze.
Most popular coffee creamers, particularly in
liquid form. These include, but are not limited
to, Coffee Mate. Everything, basically everything
from Coffee Mate, Land O' Lakes, Walden Farms.
Those are the ones that get me off the top. Oside
is freaking out in chat. Don't you love drinking
the titanium? Yes. Yeah. So, yeah, it just goes
to show, like, with what Oside's calling out
in chat, like, it's almost impossible. It's everywhere.
In this country. And this is going to take generations.
This is not going to be something we're going
to fix today or even 10 years from now. We're
just hitting the tip of the iceberg. And unfortunately,
this is because we've had generations of people
not involved with this stuff. And I don't mean
to blame anybody. This is not a blame thing,
but it's just, this is what happens with any
government when people don't regulate it. You
know, this is what happens when you let money
talk. Yeah. So I encourage people to get involved,
you know, sign up. Yeah. You know, And if anybody
noticed my background today, if you can call
it out, I won't say it here. And nobody who knows
from earlier gets to call it out. But if you
know what this is from, let me know. It's from
a movie. It is from a movie. All right. And I
thought it was fitting for today. I cannot confirm
or deny. Hmm. Yeah, I think that pretty much
wraps up in terms of this specific episode. I
do want to give a shout out to everybody and
say thank you everyone for interacting with us
online. We've been seeing a big uptick in the
views lately. We've been noticing the episodes.
We appreciate all the shares, all the likes,
comments, everything. It means a lot to us. As
of today, we have the account. I made the account
and everything. We'll be going forward and starting
to do more clips as well and getting things going.
That I'm excited for. I am going to be trying
some format changes as well with a few of the
videos and trying to get some background stuff
and some other things. I kind of want to step
it up and make it look even more professional.
So that's going to be going forward. So let us
know any suggestions in the comments of any of
the videos about things such as either formatting
changes in terms of how the video is structured
or background or anything else. Just feel free
to let us know because I'm open to suggestions
with it. I have a few ideas. I did not listen
to the audio from the past couple, but are you
still putting in the background music? You know
what? I haven't been. No one said anything. Okay.
I did it for the one. I know it was brought up
and we did it on the one. Yep, I did it on the
one. I wanted to see what people were going to
say. Okay, we got no feedback. I heard nothing
positive or negative, so I figure maybe we will,
maybe we won't. Who knows? Okay. I know with
us, generally, we are pretty good at... fucking
blabbing and talking so i mean there's not there's
not much dead space uh but who knows not really
uh but really besides that anything else you'd
like to uh the closing no uh i i would personally
like a little bit of feedback if anybody sees
us on uh the the little reels that i make on
instagram because i do i don't do the the insta
page very much So I know that I'm reusing a lot
of the same shit over and over and just putting
a little bit of new music to it. But thoughts
on the music that I do and the shit that I do
for those reels, because I don't do that stuff.
I'm not a young person. I don't use the the instant
page, whatever crap I don't make reels. So, you
know what I'll do? I'll talk to my girlfriend
about it because she used to manage a big social
media page. Okay. I'll ask her about stuff. You
know what I was thinking about? I want to see
what chat would say about this, too. What if
we used AI to make, like, art photos and cover
pages for the different episodes? Depending.
I'm curious to see what people would say if they'd
want, like, separate ones for that. Because if
we're going to be investing AI and using some
stuff, maybe that'd be kind of funny. Mm -hmm.
You know? Also, yeah, what about TikTok, Gibbs?
What about TikTok? That's literally what the
AI thing's going to be for. That's all the clips
that we can put on there. Although, granted,
yes, I know I've been slacking on it. I am aware.
Where are the clips at, Gibbs? Not on TikTok.
No, not on anywhere. But they will be. That's
the point of what we're doing. Yeah. But the
only reason outside in the chat why I'm recommending
the AI thing is because I just simply cannot
afford to hire somebody from Fiverr to make a
different kind of photo for each episode. Hell
no. So I think it's the easiest way. Let me tell
you, if it's music you want, I can do it. If
it's drawing you want, I can sign my name. I
can draw a potato. I got kicked out of art class.
That's how bad I am. I can draw some stick figures.
You know, same. We can wrap up the episode and
take it to the after show if you want. Absolutely.
But yeah, if anybody wants to join for the after
show shenanigans, hit us up on Twitch. We typically
hang out for a little while after the episode
and just shoot the shit for a little while. Twitch
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socials page in the discord. The discord is on
every episode's description notes. Oh yeah. So
join us, become one of us, one with us. Other
than that, you got anything? No, no, I think
we're good. All right, buddy. Well, thanks everybody
for hanging out. We love you all and we'll see
you next time.