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Gibbs. Hello. I don't like the fact that I didn't
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brainess. Absolutely, buddy. No, I'm going to
use that at work now. Yeah. And tonight we are
going to be discussing the very fun and hot button
topic of taxes and tariffs. Don't turn it off
just yet. I know you're thinking, oh, my God,
how can this be fun and entertaining? Well, we
found a way. Yes. We included us. So while we
all understand that taxes are a gross necessity
of life, we found some information that we thought
might spark some joy in your life and maybe not.
Possibly anger. We know it did for us. Tariffs,
on the other hand, are a much newer topic for
a lot of people, and it's been a fun, let's say,
inflammatory topic as of late. So we thought
we should get it out there for discussion, let
it flap around in the breeze like some dog lips
in a car or some other lips if you... Are having
a little bit of fun one day and just get it out
there to waggle around and. I hate this entire
example. This is grotesque. It's like when Nixon
did his little. Because you're a Futurama fan.
I absolutely am. I'm expecting Carly to come
in here and start borking at me. But, you know,
it's caused a lot of people to get very pissed
off, and it may or may not be for good reason.
So we thought that it was high time we did what
we do, and we're going to slowly undress the
topic and touch some tips on this and see if
we can massage a little bit of calm and reassurance
into your... Into your feelings. So Gibbs, go
ahead and you can start us off. Anyway, I'm sorry.
So the reason this came up is obviously there's
been a lot of political talk and controversy
regarding tariffs. Now, what people need to understand
is actually tariffs have been around really as
long as this country has been around. And really,
this is something that governments have been
using for centuries. In fact, really for thousands
of years, it really wasn't that typical for a
country necessarily to do any sort of income
tax like we see nowadays. It was much more basically
tariff based of the ideas. If you're bringing
goods into a country, they are taxed to be brought
into the country, whereas the goods built and
distributed inside that country weren't really
taxed either at all or at a very, very, very,
very low rate. So historically, at least in America.
The primary way of raising federal funds was
always through, maybe not always, but very much
primarily was tariffs. It was something to where
originally it was just a few percent. That's
where you get the idea of the T tax of the Boston
Tea Party, where that was that couple of percent
import tax or century tariff on tea that caused
the whole, you know, the whole debacle. Uh, it's
something to where now I, I think it's kind of
funny how, and we did a lot of research here
to kind of show what's happened over the centuries
where originally tariffs research. Oh yeah. Pages
and pages, but it'll, it'll be interesting. More
interesting than you think. Um, it's really gone
from a situation where this country used to be,
you know, basically the entire federal government
was run by a few percentage, um, tariff on various
goods and some up to maybe 20, 30%. Without anything
else other than maybe some excise tax and a little
bit of a tax on public lands that were more for
the local state and or county. Whereas now it's
a very, very different case. So really, how do
these things kind of work? It's pretty simple.
Tariffs, just like I described, it's a tax on
imports into the country. You have excise taxes,
which are something that's kind of that's really
actually. Sort of unique to the U .S., where
effectively you're taxed on the luxury of having
a good. So any sort of luxury good, you're taxed
on the possession or the acquisition of that.
Whereas also you have your property taxes, things
like poll taxes, faculty taxes. So there were
a few things, but you're talking the average
American back. right between right around the
time of the revolutionary war until 20 30 years
after that or into the early 19th century 18
and 18 20 you're talking the average america
is maybe paying anywhere between five to ten
percent if that in taxes and that's talking for
somebody that's importing a lot that's doing
a lot they really kept the vast majority of what
they were making and that was on like a a rough
value uh yearly $3 ,000 to $5 ,000. Of equivalent
value, basically. It's something to consider
is when we're talking about some of these numbers
from hundreds of years ago. We've had to average
out a lot of stuff, and there's a lot of things
that we have to kind of take a little bit of
liberty to. So I did a lot of number crunching,
and we figured out some stuff. So just be aware
that the numbers might not be 100 % on the dot,
but they're going to be close enough to get the
point across. So really, it wasn't until 1861
in America where they introduced a flat tax of
3 % on annual incomes over $800, which back at
$800, you're talking upper middle class today,
pretty much. But that was 3%. That was to fund
and raise revenue. And really for that civil
war that was going on and coming. Then in 1862.
Again, it was a 3 % increase, but that was between
$600 ,000 to $10 ,000, and then 5 % over $10
,000, aka you're very wealthy at that point.
So really, you're talking 1860s. Now we're adding
to maybe that if you're well off or really well
off, you're talking 5 % to 10%, which to me,
that's not anything crazy. That's very much in
line, and it makes sense in terms of raising
revenue. to be able to do things like build infrastructure.
That's one of the big things that happened and
one of the reasons why they had to do that after
the Civil War. Because in the Civil War, you
have so many cities in America that were destroyed,
so many towns that were completely leveled. You're
talking well over half a million dead. It was
insane what it did to this country. And a lot
of people, if you don't really read historical
context or look at a lot of things, some people
forget. So there were a lot of roads to be rebuilt,
a lot of towns and cities to be rebuilt. Our
military was in shambles. We lost so many of
our great military leaders from both the North
and the South. It was not a good time. But with
those added taxes, America saw one of its best
times economically up until about World War I.
World War I, unfortunately, is the point to where
they passed the Revenue Act of 1913, which levied
a 1 % tax on net personal incomes above $3 ,000
and a surtax on higher incomes. That was really
the first time that it was in law without any
sort of repeal date, without any sort of time
frame that they said, hey, we are going to start
taxing your reported or earned income. That is
where you see you do see a massive growth in
the U .S. government for both good and bad. That's
when you start seeing a lot of different government
agencies being created. You start seeing a lot
of growth, a lot more jobs, and really the government
grows almost exponentially at this point. So
then you get into, you know, World War II, to
where past that, once you get past the Great
Depression, now they start adding even more money.
They start taking even more. Then you get even
to post -World War II, where they start taking...
That's where the milking really starts. That's
where it starts to get bad. You know, you're
talking at some point... There were some millionaires
paying 60%, 70 % taxes on some cases. Now, granted,
there were a lot of write -offs and other stuff
within the system, but you had average Americans
paying anywhere from 15 % to 30 % in taxes. It
just keeps going up. That's what I'm getting
at. The whole thing that I'm talking about here
is really every single decade or really every
single different historical point in American
history, for some reason, the answer has been
just give more money to the government. More
taxes. Yeah. Raise more revenue. And unfortunately,
by raising more revenue, every single time, they
spend more. It's never, ever, ever, just, hey,
let's put some money away. The only president
that did not outspend, as far as I remember,
and you guys can quote me on this one. I don't
know if you know this. What do you think was
the only president that started and ended with
a balanced budget? Oh, shit. Because I can give
an honorary mention. Okay. Who's the honorary?
The honorary mention is Bill Clinton. Okay. He
didn't start with a balanced budget. But he ended.
But he did end. I will give him credit. Okay.
Shit. I will go with... Either Kennedy for the
obvious reason. Okay. That's kind of shitty.
Okay. Okay. I didn't consider that. Teddy Roosevelt?
No. No. Am I in the right era? So you're close.
Dwight D. Eisenhower. Ike. Okay. Ike. Only because
he's one of the only presidents that we've ever
had. But he literally he only stuck strictly
to what was constitutionally allowed by the president.
He didn't add any new spending. He didn't push
for anything other than just military spending
and infrastructure. That was it. So kudos to
him. He's one of my few presidents that I love.
OK, you're cool. He is the one that pushed the
National Highway Act, if I remember. Oh, yeah.
But we gained so much revenue from that from
trade. Yeah. Like that was great that it took,
you know, a lot of years to be able to implement
that. But when you look at the net at the end
of it. It was crazy. That's really what allowed
America to be the America you see in the movies
and whatnot. People moving around, traveling,
going places. Before then, it was difficult to
move around before the national highway system
was in. Well, yeah, it was streets and state
routes. And they didn't always connect. There
wasn't always a way to get around. There wasn't
an easy way of getting from here to there. Sometimes
it was a dirt road. Literally. And those cars
in the 50s were not comfortable in those. No.
But so what the point I'm getting at is it's
been a continuing cycle of increasing on taxes.
But the weird thing is with our tariffs, what
we started using is leveraging tariffs and saying,
hey, we're going to give these other countries
economic incentives to trade with us. So we actually
stopped many tariffs or even in the case of we
would be giving goods to a country where they
would have tariffs on our goods. But we wouldn't
have it on theirs. There were not reciprocal
tariffs. We would actually be entering trade
deficits. This is one of the problems with NAFTA
that we had, the North American Federal Trade
Administration, and as well as our more recent
dealings with China. Free trade agreement. Free
trade agreement, sorry. I don't know why. Anyways.
Between that, as well as our trade agreements
with China, really ever since the 80s and 90s,
we have been at a net loss. for most of our trading
because we haven't utilized tariffs. The vast,
vast majority of all of our government revenue
has been taxes on people and businesses. The
problem is when you keep doing that, you keep
spending more and more and more. You end up,
what, 30 -something trillion in debt? We're getting
near 40 at this point. Something like that. So
it's insane. To give you an idea how much, which
is kind of crazy. In 2024, the top 1 % paid an
average of about 35 % of their income in taxes.
The middle 20 % paid about 26 .5%, and the poorest
20 % pay about 17%. Now, that's in rough figures,
but what's crazy to think about this, the middle
20 % of people pay almost $18 ,000 in taxes.
Now, compare that to... How America was pre -World
War II, pre -World War I, pre -Civil War. Those
numbers are unheard of. Especially, you're not
even considering the average of the states into
it. Granted, it says federal, state, and local,
but there are some states, obviously, that are
wildly different. Some states have a state income
tax, some don't. Some have different taxes on
their... Their properties, for example, if you're
in a state like New Hampshire where they don't
have necessarily sales tax, but they have higher
property taxes and different things like that,
it really depends. So why is all of this important?
Because in 2024, the U .S. government collected
$4 .9 trillion, which is a lot of money. However,
we spent $6 .8 trillion. Just a little more.
Just a lot more. We spent more than the GDP of
major countries like Germany. Our deficit is
more than an entire European country. It is ridiculous.
It is gross how far in the red we are. I'm going
to put this link in our stream chat right now,
but I encourage anybody listening to go to usdebtclock
.org and take a look. The current number is $36
trillion. $725 billion, $556 million, $600 ,000,
$700 ,000, $800 ,000. It's growing that fast.
And it's something to where it's growing to a
point to where we can barely even pay the interest
on that. The interest alone is a trillion a year.
You give me an idea how much money that is? The
interest on our debt is more than our entire
military budget. And that's saying something.
And we're America, motherfuckers. We like to
spend on our military. Yeah. We really like to
spend on our military. If our choice is to do
anything else or spend it to blow shit up, we
blow shit up every time. We are the experts at
that. Let me tell you. Yeah. We do not help our
poor. We don't help our veterans. We don't help
people with health care. We don't help people.
Our education system. No, but we can blow you
up from 10 miles away. Not give a fuck. We are
good at that. But the sad part is even that can't
outrun our debt. Yeah. So did you touch on the
tax breakdown? Because I was pulling up the debt
clock and grossing myself out at that number
while you were talking, so I apologize for that.
No, no, it's okay. So if you look at the debt
per citizen, granted, I took these screenshots
the other day, so you might see some newer numbers.
But you're talking the U .S. national debt, if
it was divvied up per citizen, it's $107 ,000
per citizen. Or what's even scarier, per taxpayer,
$323 ,000 per taxpayer. That is a very important
number. What that means is for every person that's
paying into the system, if the debt on the U
.S. was collected right now, you would owe $323
,000 on the debt that is previous. That is a
system that is not sustainable at all, especially
when the average revenue gained per person outside
of the government spending on people and actually
gaining revenue is $15 ,000. So you're not even
in the realm of being sustainable. You aren't
even in the ballpark. You aren't even in the
same city. You might not even be on the same
coastline. You're not even close. Not even a
little bit. So this is the reason why the whole
Trump tariff thing has been a topic of discussion
lately. It's very clear that as a government,
we grossly overspend. But inversely... We also
do not collect our revenue enough. No. And I
just want to look up this live for a second to
get people aware. We are spending our largest
budget items. We're spending one point six trillion
alone in Medicare and Medicaid. One point five
trillion in Social Security, just under a trillion
on defense, over a trillion on interest. And
that's not including many other items there.
that are that are huge many government agencies
that are completely overblown and with doge thankfully
you know being able to um sort out and kind of
show how much debt we have and not debt but how
much um uh i guess fraud waste fraud thank you
that's what i'm looking for with doge being able
to sort that out and show it we're really starting
to see How much can be saved? Like they've already
roughly been looking at, they've made proposals
to save 300 billion, which is awesome. It's not
enough to really swing the pendulum, but it is
a lot. It's something to really consider going
forward. Now. Yeah. This is where things get
really interesting because I figured part of
this discussion was, well, could we solve it?
Could us two idiots here? We've solved the energy
crisis. We've solved the financial retirement
crisis. So we figured, can we solve the tax problem?
And we have an interesting discussion here, because
technically, yes. But it's not great. There's
a bit of a problem. It's always going to be a
spending problem, unfortunately. But we did look
at, it is possible. With some changes in our
tariff policy and some changes in our tax system.
That this is doable. This is very much doable.
Now, there is another little point I want to
make here. Very small point. The other issue
we have in America is we have some of the highest
corporate taxes in the world. And as well as
some of the highest corporate regulation. It
is very difficult nowadays to start a business.
It's very difficult to start something from scratch
between all the regulations and red tape you
have to go through and everything else and different
things you have to pay out for between federal,
state, and local and all these different forms
and everything. You basically have to have triple
or quadruple the amount of available money you
would think to have to have and have to have
a lawyer on staff and have to have all these
other things and have to know people. And that's
assuming the local town or province or anything
or county approves the business that you want
to do. You can't just start one anymore. You
have to get approvals and everything else and
go through. It's insane. With all of that, half
the problem we have now is so few people can
start a business or even work for a small business.
Most of the people I know, especially in my generation.
We don't have the offer or the ability to work
for a small business. Most everyone I know works
for a big corporation or the government. And
that's the difference where this country used
to be built on small businesses. The idea that
the local person, whether it be the local leather
maker or the wax person or the post office or
whatever it was, every job had to have somebody
there locally to do it and to start it and to
run it. Whereas now, everything's big monopolies.
And I don't know many people, like I'm one of
the few people that I'm very fortunate to work
for a small business. And I'm not saying there's
anything wrong working with larger businesses,
but you would think for a country that was built
on small local companies that we would incentivize
to do that. And we don't because our tax system
penalizes you. There's no tax advantage, essentially.
In fact, it's the opposite because you can write
off your losses. And other ways when you're large
enough to have legal teams to be able to figure
out how to write off these losses. Whereas if
you're just, you're just a guy running a landscaping
company, you don't get shit. The government doesn't
give a fuck. They're like, yeah, you owe taxes.
You pay now. You bend over now. No lube. Like
it just, you, you have to pay. Whereas with these
big multinational corporations, they could do
what they want and they can pay later. In fact,
they'll use the landscaping mulches lube. At
least your shit later smells nice. You know?
You're like, oh, wow. Fruity. Maybe not fruity.
That's the wrong word. Woody? We'll see. What
kind of compost are you using? I don't know.
I'm short -circuiting today. I don't know. It's
been a day. I had to wear my... When I broke
my foot, I had to wear the compression boot.
I've just been in pain. It's been great. Gotcha.
The drugs are totally not kicking in. Oh, that's
epic. It's great. But... Have you tried putting
it up your butt? My foot? Are you aware of how
inflexible I am, motherfucker? Are you kidding
me? I mean the drugs. Have you tried putting
the drugs up your butt? That's usually an exhaust
port, not an intake. That's not what I... Well,
it does work both ways. When in the Navy, I guess.
Ask our friends in the alphabet community. I'm
not touching that comment with a temper full.
Nope. Nope. Nope. No, no, no, no. But when we
were looking at it, we were looking at it in
ways for America to solve this problem. I think
it's actually pretty simple. Number one, there's
a lot of other countries. that have tariffs,
just overall tariffs on most products that are
not insignificant. You're talking, there's a
lot of countries that have 40, 50%, even in some
cases, 100 % tariffs on any goods from a certain
area to bring in. So in America, we get roughly
3 .2 to 3 .3 trillion of goods come across the
border every year, which means we put a 10 %
tariff, that's 330 billion. Or to put it more
simply, 30 % gets you a trillion. That trillion
alone. and pay off the interest on our loans
or a loan can pay for the military you could
say yep we put a 30 tariff on all of our goods
congratulations we paid for the military good
job that's good but those tariffs are irrelevant
if we don't lower corporate and business taxes
so more people can start businesses and really
i think actually the tax system should be advantaged
for people and be more leveraged towards small
businesses i'll get to that in a minute absolutely
Now, sure, there might be a decrease in imports,
and there are going to be some products that
might have to get exemptions just for the economy
to kind of situate with it. Not lag. Yeah, but
what I'm thinking is it would have to be an increase
over a few years. You do 2 % one year, 2 % another
year. You do, of course, like five years, 2 %
a year up until that point. Companies have a
chance to move things over, to switch things
around, to really bring goods and services back
to America, because that's one of the biggest
things is we've lost. Almost every single one
of our production plants, any sort of industrial
infrastructure, we no longer have here. And goods
aren't really even built here anymore. Things
say made in America all the time. 90 % of it's
bullshit. 90 % of it is assembled in America
or really what it is for a lot of things. It's
quality control in America. So they can say,
oh, it was made in America because it was going
from that place to be sold, which I think that's
the wrong way. You got to change how that stuff's
labeled. I don't think that's right. No, no,
no, no. No, no, no, no. The other way we thought
about helping this out was to do a flat tax.
Because one of the biggest problems we see are
large corporations that were able to write off
so much in taxes that they effectively have a
near 0 % tax rate. When you've got companies
as big as Amazon, Apple, Tesla, Walmart, making,
you know, multiple billions of dollars in profit.
And then essentially getting away with a $0 tax
bill? No. No. And then I get told I owe $3 ,000
because I didn't pay enough on my taxes? Excuse
me? I paid what you said to pay. I don't think
taxes should be something you have to hire a
lawyer for. It should be very simple. Business
and personal income taxes, just put it both at
10%. Why? Because that would actually make us
a shit ton more money. The only problem is that
would basically fire 80 % of all accountants.
So I'm sorry you lose your job, but get a better
job. You need to be an asshole. They just start
working in investments. I would agree with that
100%. So it would be one of those things where
you would have so many companies that can only,
yes, they would have to pay their fair share,
which I know, I'm not trying to go down that
socialist line, but more let's be real. if we're
all using the same roads, if we all get protected
by the same military, have the same rules, same
laws, then it should be roughly equal. So 10
% flat tax, that solves a huge issue because
we get roughly in terms of revenue between all
people and all businesses. With our current situation,
we get roughly 14 .8 trillion in revenue. So
that'd be another 1 .4 trillion. Even if you
had to do 20%, which I know that's tough for
a lot of people to swallow. But for a lot of
businesses, that would be less than what the
current rate is. And for a lot of people, at
least it would be cheaper and easier. I would
hope to stick around 10 closer. But even if you
had to do 20, let's just say theoretically for
a year, between that and the tariffs, you basically
have the majority of our budget covered. That's
four and a half to five trillion. And that doesn't
even include other ways of raising revenue. It's
one of those things where if you cut the budget
a little bit and add on these things, you could
theoretically say to the average person, Hey,
you know, are you willing to pay anywhere from
10 to 30 % more for imported goods? But then
in three to five years, a lot of those companies
will move jobs over here. We'll create more jobs,
which then increases that revenue, which then
increased revenue means we can afford to do more
stuff and incentivize more things to come here.
And eventually it's the revolving door because
the reality of it is businesses always generate
more tax revenue than people. No matter what,
you always want to incentivize businesses. So
to me, it just seems like such a simple, simple
solution that people like to overcomplicate because
they'd be losing money. I hate to say it, but
to them, they'd be losing it. Yeah. And that
was one of the reasons that. So many businesses
started going overseas. Yes, they generate a
lot of tax revenue, but people are the biggest
expense of a company. So especially American
people, because we like our big fat paychecks
and we have our fancy expensive lifestyles. So
if we can pay Taji Habib $20 a day to manufacture
this widget, Over in some third world country
where we're paying, you know, Jenny from the
block, $20 an hour. Well, yeah, they're going
to make that trade every day of the week. So
that takes us back to the incentivizing. It balances
out. It really does. I lost my train of thought.
I'm sorry. Well, that's okay because we haven't
even got to the last point, which is the one
that you brought up, which this is what basically
balances the budget right here. This is the one
thing we're not doing that many other countries
in the Western world do, and I don't know why
we don't do this. It's a consumption tax. So
the idea is if we make those changes and then
do a 5 % tax, it's basically just a federal sales
tax on anything you buy. If we did these changes,
that one adds another trillion a year in revenue.
So now we've balanced the budget. What's crazy,
though, is if we did it correctly and cut enough
stuff, you might even be able to get rid of personal
income tax over time. Right, because that's paying
interest on the loan. and putting profit into
the system, which means the loan goes down, which
means you're paying less on interest, which means
over time, the loan balance goes down if you're
not spending more than you're taking in, just
like normal people finances. Exactly. That's
where my train of thought was going a minute
ago, and I knew I was getting ahead of myself,
so sorry. But the reason why I want to bring
this up, which is very important, is remember
when I said earlier that in 2024, the poorest
people... paid roughly 17 % of their income in
taxes. What would be very important here is their
effective tax rate would be closer to that 12
or 14%. Because again, if you're looking at the
10 % income, mind you, the tariffs really wouldn't
hit them that hard because they're not consuming
a lot of goods. And most of the stuff that tariffs
would be on are larger items, things like vehicles.
you know large tech items stuff like that but
things like food in america thankfully most of
our food is here we don't really import a lot
so for average people well you say that you know
what i mean though and that would be a quick
changeover for a lot of stuff like sure for a
couple of years it would suck but the biggest
thing i'm trying to push for is the idea of number
one us maintaining the american value of the
dollar so that it doesn't erode away with inflation
and number two If you can get it to a point to
where Americans can have more, I guess you could
say, expendable income, people can start to invest.
People can start to grow the economy. People
can create businesses. They can create jobs.
They can invest in the stock market, 401ks, IRAs.
That's really the backbone of how the American
economic system works, which for the best, for
better, for worse, that is one of the most important
metrics. When people have money to put into it,
Everything stagnates. Unfortunately, we are very
much a pyramid system where at the very top,
it's the NASDAQ, Dow, S &P 500, you know, those
few thousand companies that really run the country.
If they're not doing well, everything else comes
to a halt. And it sucks because you have to fix
the underlying issue of Americans not being able
to start businesses to compete with them, which
is something we can do. But with this system,
you basically only pay. a 10 % income tax, and
then anything else is only taxed if you spend
money. So you can invest. You can actually put
aside some money and invest and do something.
You can get somewhere. And for a lot of people,
let's just say for the poorest 20 % that would
save like 7 % of their income. Okay, so we're
talking the poorest 20%. If they're making $20
,000 a year. So they could save like $1 ,700
a year or like $150, $130 a month. For some of
those people, that is their, you know, some of
their food money, some of their bill money. I'm
not saying it's enough to where all of a sudden
everyone could buy a lavish house, but it's the
start to be able to get somewhere. Because every
single administration since Bill Clinton has
spent more money than they've brought in. I don't
care about your party line or political affiliation.
Every single one of them has failed when it comes
to finances. So at some point, we do have to
make this correction and have the discussion.
But what I find even more interesting about this
system is the fact that the middle class would
benefit huge. Because right now, if you're paying
roughly 26 % of your income in taxes, Imagine
if, let's just say you're buying a car, paying
that 10 % income, pay that 5 % sales tax, your
effective tax rate might be down closer to 15%,
even 18%. That's huge. And especially if you're
a top 1 % person, because typically most people
in the top 1%, they own businesses. They hire
people. If a business is able to save, let's
just say 20, 30, even 50 ,000 a year, they can
do more to reinvest in that business. They can
do more to hire people. They can do things. And
unfortunately, I know people have the debate
about trickle -down economics, which I know.
Some people that have degrees in economics try
to say that trickle -down doesn't work. Some
people say it does. I'm not here to debate, you
know, different types of economic philosophies.
But what I will say is the fundamental truth
of if businesses don't have money to reinvest,
they can't. I can't guarantee they ever will.
But the only way for them to be able to reinvest
is to have money. So the only way to give them
money is to have the American dollar worth more
and take out less in taxes. And if you just put
in more businesses, you don't have to take out
as much money from them. It's very simple. So
by this system, you encourage competition, you
encourage more businesses, and people pay less
in taxes. Therefore, you get to keep more for
yourself. You get to choose. But even more important
than anything else, this is one simple fundamental
reason. You don't have a choice with the IRS
right now for most of your taxes. Either you
pay it or you go straight to jail. Do not pass.
Go do not collect $200. Do not be given your
free gift bottle of lube. And you have to guess.
That's the beautiful thing about this country.
The government will never give you a piece of
paper says, by the way, you owe this much or
we pay you this much. No, you are forced with
a gun to your head to say, Oh, I need to figure
this out and file the paperwork. or else i could
go to jail which is wrong whereas under this
system you just take your income you move the
decimal point over and you say there's the income
taxes it's so simple and i'm not saying it because
people are stupid but like the fact that we have
well over 100 000 irs agents to be able to extort
people is unreal but it should just be a simple
system of This is how much you owe. This is the
paperwork. It should be stupid simple, but it's
not because people make money off of being difficult,
which is not fair. Because every other Western
country, they make taxes easy. I know in Canada,
they just send you some paperwork. They're like,
here, here's your taxes. This is all done. We
know how much you made. This is what you owe,
or this is what you already paid in. We pay you
back. You pay us. We set up a payment plan. Here
you go. So that's... That's kind of where I went
with it, where basically we can do it between
tariffs, a consumption tax, and a much smaller
income tax. That's a flat rate. You'd be all
set. And mind you, all these numbers are based
on the current data we have. How many companies
do you think that aren't being reported on this
that don't pay taxes would then have to pay because
of a 10 % flat tax? Who knows? It could raise
a lot more revenue than you think. So that's
basically my argument. So I guess the question
becomes, where do we end up going with the tariffs?
Because not to get too political, but I know
Trump's playing a very interesting game. Well,
here's the thing. It's working because a lot
of countries are saying, hey, let's make a deal.
Yeah. And I know people don't like him, but his
book, The Art of the Deal, it's going on my reading
list as much as I hate to say that. The man knows
his shit when it comes to business stuff. And
yeah, it's a lot of bully tactics. Oh, well.
But it's working. The thing is, if we don't bully
these other countries, we end up in a trade deficit
forever. Yeah, we have been. It's crazy. We were
in a two to three hundred billion dollar trade
deficit with Canada every year. Why? Why are
we giving them our country cannot thrive and
exist like that? No, we just go further and further
down the spiral and that the words deficit. Thank
you. Goes further and further into the red. And
we just get further and further away from a solution.
Things like what we're talking about are ways
that are feasible to get us out of the hole.
Now, we're two guys just sitting around talking
about it. Are these ideas ever going to be implemented?
Probably not, because nobody has the balls to
do it. It's going to take something like the
Buffett solution. and saying that nobody in office
is eligible for re -election until the budget
is balanced. Knowing that, but nobody in office
should be trading stocks, or inversely, they
should have to make it public within a couple
hours. Yeah. Either way, I don't care. 90 minutes.
Yeah. The 90 -minute rule. As soon as you trade,
you've got 90 minutes. It must be made public,
or you have to pay double what you paid for in
fines, and you're barred from trading for like
a month. Or something like that. So it's that
simple. I don't think that if you're able to
affect policy that would affect stocks, nobody
in your circle, like five rings out, should be
able to trade. The problem is there's no way
to enforce that. Those are the same people that
would be enforcing it. So they won't. That's
why you have to make the transparent argument
because they'll never enforce that law. Yeah.
I mean, think about it. How many politicians
have you heard about that have been drunk driving
or, like, sexually assaulting or, like, doing
all this weird stuff? And yet, it's okay. They
just never end up in jail. Nothing ever happens.
You know? But now, look at, um, what was, what
was, like, that governor that was in Michigan
that she was basically, uh, like, not governor,
sorry, no, um, it was, like, a mayor that she
was, like, bullying people, hiding their money,
extorting the money. I forgot her name. Oh, shit.
Yeah. You know what I'm talking about. Yeah.
Yeah. And nothing was done about it for years.
Documentaries are made about her like a year
ago, a year or two ago. Yeah. And nothing's ever
done. Because unfortunately, I will call this
out in the podcast, and I'm going to get flack
for it. I don't care. Most police are wussies.
They don't actually enforce the law. Do it. They
don't enforce the law. They will see somebody
break the law right in front of them, and they
will not do it, even if it's a senator or a representative
or someone in the government. Those laws apply
equally to them. If you do not arrest them for
breaking the law, you are complicit with it.
The only laws that matter are the ones that are
enforced. So thank you for being part of this.
Police are not there to protect the citizens.
They're there to help with the insurance paperwork.
Yeah. I will stand my ground on that. Police
are just HR for the government. That's all they
are. No, don't get me wrong. I do support our
police. I think they have a strenuous job. They
do great work for us, but they're constrained
from above from doing the job they're supposed
to do. It's not the fault of the 99 % of the
people that are actually doing the job. It's
the people up top that are there because of political
reasons. That's always the problem. It's never
the ones that you actually... Politics gets in
the way of life. Yeah, unfortunately. But it's
the political ones that want to be up higher
up in the rungs that wants to make the decisions.
It's not the ones that actually want to help
people. Yeah. Which, as we've learned many a
time, it's unfortunate, but it's a reality. But
yeah, that would be, I guess in discussing this,
that would be kind of the solution. Where if
you combine these things and cut some spending
and Have more businesses move back. Congratulations.
You could have a prosperous America like we had
in the 50s through the 80s. You know, you could
do it. I did suggest a few other ways that we
could prosper as a country, too. Oh, legalize
drugs? Well, if the U .S. started selling drugs,
maybe got in on some of that organ harvesting
money and potentially start mining asteroids,
we could really. Get some profit going. Mining
asteroids, 100%. Hell yeah. Also, the fact that
marijuana is still considered like a class one
or schedule one drug is insane. That should be
federally legalized. And honestly, if that had
a 10 % tax on it, we'd make a trillion dollars
a year. But that would be the easiest way to
make money. Yes. It is the original cash crop.
And honestly, let me hear your opinion on this
one. I think I already know, but I'm curious.
Do you legalize prostitution as well and just
have it regulated? I think yes, because if it's
regulated, it's controlled, it's safer, and there's
less incidences of disease and violence. So,
yeah, I think so. I would agree. As someone that's
not even a fan of the concept of it, but I would
agree that it's your body, your choice, you could
do that. Yeah. Who the hell is going to be running
the coochie police? Who's the one that's going
to be running the enforcement? Well, here's the
thing. We've already legalized things like OnlyFans.
So that's just the next step. So why not? Can
I have a quick aside? Because this touches a
very important topic. Did you know there's a
company that's making... Touch my tip. You really
did. But, you know, there's a company that they've
made AI women on OnlyFans. Yes. And they're making
money hand over fist. Oh, yeah. So. Yeah. AI
is. The apocalypse is already happening. AI is
coming, buddy. Yeah. And you know what's weird?
Why is it? Now, this is going to be a controversial
statement. So it's going to be a bunch of guys
programming women to then pleasure other men.
So, just like in the trans community, men are
going to be better at women than women being
at women. It's the way it's going. All these
women are going to be so upset because they're
no longer going to be at OnlyFans because guys
programmed AI to do exactly what they wanted.
Yeah. It's congratulations. You played yourself.
Yeah. That's terrible. Yeah, you know. Just saying.
Oh, my God. On a side note, did you guys know
that the dollar is worth about 4 % of what it
was in 1913? Yeah, it's worth. Yeah, that fucking
hurts. It's worth 125th. Which is insane. Well,
you could blame Nixon, by the way, for getting
us off the gold standard. When we got off the
gold standard, that was the nose dive off. No,
that was the Greg Louganis dive off the diving
board that sent us into this disaster. And if
you don't know who that is, look it up and watch
that video. So one of the things I know we talked
about this as well during our previous American
Financial podcast episode. But we got off the
gold standard so the government could just print
money and spend what we couldn't spend. If Trump
was smart, he needs to find a way for us to get
to some sort of standard that keeps the government
from putting us back on the gold standard. Because
unfortunately, if I remember here and I go back
to the debt clock, million, billion, trillion.
Wait a minute. Thousand million. Yeah. So we
have currently the M2 money supply in the U .S.
in physical dollars is 21 trillion. which is
insane because back in the 70s we had like a
trillion so theoretically we are lucky that the
dollar is only 125th what it was in like 1913
not like 170th yeah have the zimbabwe money dude
we're getting to we're basically fiat currency
we're going that way so we've we are a fiat currency
well i i guess i mean like in the in the realm
of like venezuela It's like, God forbid if something
happens, we are screwed. We're going to start
seeing a whole lot more zeros on our bills. Yeah.
Yeah. That is not a good thing. God. That will
not spark joy in our lives. Well, then all your
investments will be worthless. Yeah. And at that
point, gold, silver, and brass will be your best
investments. Oh, yeah. And lead. Oh, I'm good.
I'm good. And food and land. I'm good. I got
a greenhouse. Yeah. Which, you know, in a previous
episode, we talked about the importance of being
self -sufficient and learning skills you don't
have and obtaining information on said skills.
Still going to push that. Definitely important.
Talking about all this only reinforces the point
of, like, get your shit together. Make sure you
can handle shit. Yeah. Make sure you take care
of shit. Like, yeah, that's all I will say without
breaking any terms or conditions of Twitch or
YouTube or anywhere else. But like, yep, do what
you can to protect yourself and your family and
have plans. Yeah, it is nuts. What could happen?
If you want to look at what can happen, just
research basically the monetary history of Venezuela
and look at what happened during the height of
the crisis. Yeah. I'll give you a little spoiler.
They used to have a really nice zoo. Yeah, that
became a buffet. The old Venezuelan meat market.
Why does my tiger taste like zebra? I don't know.
I know I did this during the pre -show, but since
we're actually recording now. I'll take a moment
to introduce the newest member of the Now We
Consume family. This here is Lilith. No, my phone
does not need to know this. Lilith is a Stafford...
Staffordfordshire? I can never pronounce it right.
Staffie. Yes. You gonna say hi? Yeah, you sniffing
that? She is eight weeks old. Very much a thrilling
and joyful bundle of energy. But yeah, this is
Lilith. How old is she? Eight weeks. Can't be
a big dog. She's going to be a big dog. These
paws are ginormous. Yeah, I was going to say,
for eight weeks, the more I look at it, like,
yeesh. Yeah, not a pit bull breed. A lot of people
confuse these with pity breeds. Well, no, because
she has a longer face. Yeah, but they get a bad
rap. Well, it's because a lot of people don't
know how to train their dogs, though. Yeah. Very
rarely is it ever a bad dog. It's usually a bad
owner. It's always a bad owner, a bad upbringing.
The only reason I will never say only is because
I have met a couple of dogs that, like... Just
snapped. Just mentally were just not there. Yeah.
But 99 % of the time, you're right. It is...
It is a bad owner. Okay. On a side note, I just
found out the amount here, by the way. Our current
U .S. trade deficit is $1 .3 trillion. That's
gross. All I'm saying, reciprocal tariffs and
do what we're talking about. It's it. Buddy,
we we're done. We got to start watching our backs.
OK, we we have sold the energy crisis. We have
solved the retirement and financial issues. And
now we just fixed the tax issue. Yeah, we are
three for three. We got to start watching our
backs. Trump put me on retainer. Right. You know,
I am more than happy to be an advisor. You know,
just tell me. Just call me up. Because you clearly
have my number. Well, you're the government.
You can get it anyway. Who am I kidding? You
can't hide shit. No. And I work for them. Sort
of. In association. Yes. In association with.
You touch tips with the government, you know.
I touch all their tips. Ew. Lovingly, slowly,
and with some saxophone music playing in the
background. Every day. You know, if I could divulge
personal comments on the... Why don't I just
picture you in your office, just with the saxophone,
the... Oh, yeah. Mm -hmm. Yep. That's not solder.
No, that is solder. That's not flux. Oh, man.
What's all this white crusty stuff around the
solder? That is flux. It's my own special blend.
Only one man can jam the government from the
inside. I'll start calling him Lone Star. That
is a Spaceballs reference if you don't get that
one. Oh, yes it is. When are they going to make
a sequel to that? That was such a good movie.
I don't know. I'm afraid of sequels these days.
They all suck. I do want to do an episode on
the collapse of the movie industry. Oh, there
we go. Let's write that down on the old analog
episode tracker. Particularly science fiction.
Because I know you and I are both sci -fi guys.
I watch everything. Except chick flicks. I fucking
hate that. Or anything that's on Hallmark. Hold
on. Yeah. Rom -com upload. You loved it. It qualifies
as a rom -com. Yeah, but that's not like a chick
flick. Like, I'm talking like the Hallmark. Oh,
yeah, no. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, okay.
I'll be real. I'll be real. I am one of those
people that I cannot be in the same room as a
Hallmark movie because it angers me. Because
what's the fucking point of watching a movie
when you already know the end every single time?
Yeah. You know, there are people out there that
don't. It's brain rot for older people. That's
like an us thing. That's... Oh, it is. That's
a... That's a tism thing. Dude, all Hallmark
is is brain rot for older people. Hallmark is
to older people is what TikTok is to me. Like,
I don't have to tell you. Yeah. It just angers
me. I could not imagine. I feel like it's honestly,
we are probably three years away from everything
from Hallmark ever makes being totally AI generated.
We're three to five years away from being. 90
% of all content being AI generated. If not all
life. What? The singularity is still right around
the corner, man. You know what's an interesting...
We talked about this. An interesting thought
that... That episode did not get shit for listens.
I know. That pissed me off. Let me... A small
aside, but I'm going to bring this back into
the original topic here. So Americans... Sorry,
just Americans, but humans in general. We all...
are socialized because of shared experiences.
Because we all have something to talk about.
There's something shared between us all. What
happens when everybody gets to watch their own
AI personalized movies, infotainment, news, games,
where you're always the main character and it
always does something different every time for
every person? There's no shared experience. I
can tell you what happens. Two things. One, WALL
-E. Two, Roy from Rick and Morty. Yes. Yes. You
are going to go do an AI thing where you live
an entire life. And you're going to get a high
score or a terrible score. And then you're going
to walk away being very confused. And that's
it. That's your merry -go -round. And that will
be it. Honestly, we are quickly becoming a Hotel
California country. Uh -huh. Check out whenever
you want, but you can never leave. Yes. Oh, man.
And then you get the upload option, and you actually
never do have to leave. But then you're not you.
Or are you? You guys have to watch that episode
for all that, because we discussed it for like
two hours. The digital afterlife episode. That
was a good one. I enjoyed that. That was a great
one. But I guess now, I guess really to kind
of sum up today, I mean. I thought this episode
was going to go way longer. No, I kind of figured
this is going to be pretty quick. Okay. This
is something I really just wanted to discuss
and I want to hear from the audience and I want
to hear from people. Do you think we're on to
something here? Because the numbers that I have
looked at and looked up, basically from my conclusion
here, is if we do a 10 % income tax. An import
tariff of 30 % and a 5 % consumption tax. Everything's
paid for. We're there. Yet we have to do some
cuts. But wait a minute. But I mean, the Doge
office is already on that. And we're still already
behind $1 .3 trillion in trade deficit. We fixed
that as well. All of a sudden now, we're in the
black. We're in the black. We're good. And you
know what the crazy thing is? None of y 'all
at home have to spend another dime to do it.
That's the biggest takeaway. Doing what we're
saying doesn't affect the wallets negatively
of any of the average Americans. It's actually
a net positive. The only thing that would slightly
have to change a little bit is I feel like you
should not have to pay taxes if you're collecting
on Social Security, because why would you pay
taxes on income that you already paid into a
system for? So I feel like that revenue will
go down a little bit. But we could compensate
for that. But besides that, like, and if we instituted
the changes that we're talking about, social
security would never be an issue. So I'm just
saying, I'm just saying, maybe this podcast is
somehow found by somebody in an administration
at some point, and they go, holy shit, these
two morons have figured out the entirety of how
to fix all this. You know what we need to do?
I don't know. We need to get... Some kind of
a flyer made up with a QR code that links to
our episode and take it to DC and just post it
up around. Don't even tell them. Maybe not a
QR code because people are worried about those
now because they're weird. But just some stickers
or something. What if we just make a website
that links to parts of our podcast in a quick
short form that basically explains everything
we're talking about? Maybe some short form videos.
Some reels or something. I'm sorry I work 60
hours a week. I apologize. Where are my reels,
Gibbs? I don't know, Nancy. I have to get on
that. That's not even me joking. I've been slacking.
I have to learn how to do it on my phone. I think
that's half my problem, too. It's like learning
how to do the TikTok editing. We've had some
very enlightening episodes, and I would love
to get a few of our snippets in front of some
eyes of people that have eyes on them, you know.
It's okay, Oside. It's all good. Basically, long
story short, feel free to rewind, but we fixed
the economy. You're welcome. Yep, we did it.
We did it. We did it, Joe. We have fixed energy.
We have fixed finances. We fixed the economy
now. You know what's crazy? We are as a pair
preventing idiocracy. I have an idea. Do you
want to do an episode of what we would do if
either one of us was the president? And we could
put all these ideas and see what the country
would look like with our rules. Just saying.
We could do that. Just saying. Oh, hey. That
one episode I was talking about. Oh yeah. We've
got an episode in the, in the mix that we're
going to have some fun with that. Hopefully you
guys like it's, it's going to be a fun episode,
not necessarily a super informative episode,
but hopefully it'll make you guys think it's,
it's probably. Five or so episodes out because
it's going to take some planning to get it right.
But that's how much work we're going to put into
that one. So. Really hope you guys like that
one. I think what we've noticed is we're doing
a little bit less of winging it a little bit
more like research discussion planning. As it
just helps, you know, helps us kind of keep on
track. Yeah. Also going to try to do a group
on the Facebooks and see if we can get some outreach
there. Need to come up with a name for it. We
were joking around with Consumption Junction
or something like that. Didn't really tickle
the pickle or massage the weenus, I think is
what you said. So we're open to taking some names.
If you want to hop on the Discord, if you're
not there already. Oh yeah, definitely join the
Discord. But yeah, between the Discord and that
group on Facebook, I would like those to be two
of the primary means of interacting with us.
I do want to try, I'll say this on the podcast
as well, now that I'll have some money this week,
because I got done spending $2 ,000 working on
my truck. I would like to subscribe to one of
those AI programs. That edits and takes snippets
and does clips and everything just to see how
well it works. And I see a lot of other podcasts
using those. And I just want to be like, yeah,
we talk about AI so much in this podcast. Like,
let's start investing. Let's start seeing how
well it works. Let's do it. Oh, also, can we
ask? I did want to ask, too. We had some suggestions
from people asking about if we should have like
background music and stuff. And some other things.
Yeah, we're probably going to throw some of that
into the audio for this on the uploads. We'll
probably do two different uploads. Do you want
to do one with and one without? We'll do the
video without. And then the audio, if you're
listening to this on Spotify or one of the other
audio only, you may have been listening to a
background music. If you liked that, let us know.
We'll try it on a couple of episodes and see
what kind of feedback we get. Yeah, definitely
let me know because I don't know if we're using
my music or if we're using other music. We've
got to figure out. I think we're going to start
and just use your stuff. Okay, cool. So the music
you hear will be composed, produced, directed
by, written by Gibbs. So he is a musical beast.
He plays most of the instruments with his penis,
so just be aware of that. There would be so much
blood if I played guitar with that thing. Where
do you think they come up with the definition
of shredding? Oh, it's like a $3 ,000 cheese
grater. Oh, man. God, if I actually could, honestly,
I could make a lot of money in a strip club if
I could do that. Right? I'd be the only person
performing there with the clothes still on. I'm
like, no, leave that on, sir. We're just here
for the piece that plays the guitar. That's fine.
You know, we could show up as a pair. You with
the guitar, me with a missile. Instead of Ride
the Lightning, we should have sung Ride the Missile.
Save a horse, ride a missile. I don't know. Let's
do cover songs. Oh, man. That would be... Maybe
that should be my album for the podcast. It's
just... I have an idea. I'm going to AI bot that
later. I'm going to AI that. Yes. Save a horse,
ride a missile. There you go. I wonder if I can...
I'll send you a picture. You know, once I get...
Basically, long story short, once I get... an
electronic drum kit for up here. Cause I hate
programming drums. It takes forever. Like I can
do it, but it sucks. Oh yeah. I do want to start
doing parody songs. Cause I've been really wanting
to do that for a while. Absolutely. Hell I've,
I've, I've made a couple. Well, that's something
I wouldn't be asking our group about because
there's a few that I like, I still have to do
a great that I'm going to be five years too late.
I still have to do the super cruise blues for
a elite dangerous. I, I, I haven't, that that's
like number one on the list. Nice. Well, we'll
do that. Sorry about all the sides today, guys.
I'm all over the place. Our brain cells are out
at the bonfire tonight, so it's cool. Noodles
and dips. That's been my day. Yes. That's been
a day. I think it's because of the pain meds.
That's what I think. That's my problem. Oh, yeah.
Like I said, if they don't work, just shove them
up your butt. Go Third Avenue. You'll get all
the benefits. It's like a butt bong for beer.
Have you ever done one of those? No. Okay. Because
I would be concerned if you did. I have considered
butt caffeine, though. Why? I wanted to try it.
I was going to say, I've known you on a couple
of beers and you're a handful. So if you took
that straight to the ass, I would be concerned.
Yeah. If you start a butt chugging, we'd have
to lock you in a cage. Half a syringe of whiskey
straight up Third Avenue. I would be a completely
different person. Oh, God. The problem is I'd
be getting... Tax this dick. The things I would
say I cannot say in this podcast. Oh, no, probably
not. I mean, it's better than trying to do like
zins in your foreskin and up your butt or something
like that. I'm out. No, you're fucking with me.
No, they don't do that. No, I refuse to believe
it. No. So join us on the socials and you'll
join in the discussions here. No, I refuse to
believe they do that. I'm not accepting the reality.
No, there's no way. Gen Alpha, Gen and Gen Z,
buddy. I, you know. Back in my day, they used
to take tampons soaked with vodka and shove them
up places. Now they're doing zins under their
foreskin. Ah. Yeah. Does it create a rash? I
don't know what it creates because I don't do
anything like that. Like, wouldn't that fucking
burn or something? Again, I have no idea. I have
so many questions. Well, there's a hub. There's
a repository hub where you can find out those
answers. I'm not going there. I don't want to
be associated with those people. I don't want
to be on that kind of list. I'm on enough lists
as it is. Right. But I don't even know. But yeah,
I just want to do a quick shout out to chat.
If you guys have any questions, comments, concerns
about this episode, any notes. Any discussion
about... Oh, I'm sure there's a lot of concerns
about this episode with me. Well, that's a relative
term with us. I mean, concerns is the topic at
hand, not to... Oh, we're allowing that. Oh,
Jesus, I'm not even... Gibbs Special Treatment
Care, the foreskin delivery service. Hells yes.
No, God no. No, no, no, no, no. Hey, then you
can get some of that special cream made out of
foreskins. You know, I still can't believe that's
a thing. I know. I can't believe Steve Harvey
put it on his hands on national TV. You know...
That was hilarious. Every time I think a conspiracy
theorist is wrong, like, or a quote -unquote
conspiracy theorist, it's like, man, just wait
long enough. They're fucking right. Like, I hate
to say it. I'm tired of them putting the chemicals
in the water and turning the frickin' frogs gay!
Honestly, that's a pretty good Alex Jones. I'll
give you a solid 8 out of 10. And then, you know,
he was proven right. Yeah. Atrazine in the water
makes the frogs, you know. It's crazy that he
was right about Epstein's Island back in the
90s. It's crazy he was wrong about anything.
The only thing is the whole Sandy Hook really
got him. Yep. That's where he did. That's right.
Okay. I have, I have lost a puppy, so we're going
to have to wrap this up. Okey dokey. No problem.
She, she has wandered out of the room. So, so
join us on the socials. Thank you for hanging
out with us tonight. Discord. Look for the group.
If you're following us at all, though, there'll
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It will be blasted on our socials so that you
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Absolutely. Join us on Discord, TikTok, Instagram,
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Right, because there's so many videos on our
TikTok page. Right, Gibbs? I'm sensing some hostility
here. You know, I'll figure it out. It's fine.
It's fine. It's fine. Fuck you, but it's fine.
It's fine. It's fine. It's okay. Love you, buddy.
I'm sorry some of us don't get out of work at
like 3 in the afternoon. I'm sorry. 2 .30. Go
fuck yourself, honestly. I'm not home until 6
or 6 .30. Are you kidding me? Yeah, I'm usually
tired by 6 .30. Because I've been working at
home for three hours. fucking first world problems
jesus christ i know right i'm home by 3 15 most
days you know but i start work at 6 30 so you
know i remember when i used to start work at
5 30 i didn't get home till 5 30 that fucking
sucked i i remember working 12s okay so well
man Unless you get a four -day warning, then
that's worth it. No, it was usually six. It was
gross. Sounded like a really good date. So, on
that note, we love you guys. Thank you for joining
us. And we'll catch you on the next one.