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of the many people who like to attach a clown

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horn to their home defense shotgun, you've come

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to the right place. Welcome back to the Now We

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Consume podcast. I'm your host, Pip. Joining

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me as always is my co -host, Gibbs. Hello! And

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tonight, we will be talking about one of the

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more controversial things that we've discussed

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on the show, American gun culture. Why do we

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here in America love our pew -pews so much? Life

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has many clowns fed boy and I am one of them.

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Honka honka. Yeah, I've had the opinion for a

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long time that if you're somewhere that you're

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not supposed to be, the sound of a pump shotgun

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or getting racked is probably the second most

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terrifying noise you could hear. Second only

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to that of a chainsaw starting up. Yeah, well,

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that's just ingrained because of horror movies

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and stuff like that. Like a chainsaw, that is

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pretty terrifying, but very few things beat the

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racking of a nice 12 -gauge shotgun. Oh, yes.

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It is the universal signal of, I mean, business.

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And I am in the cleanup business. Let me tell

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you. Oh, yeah. Knowing that you're not where

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you should be if you're in that line of work

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and hearing that shotgun getting racked. You

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know that you're probably done for the day. Yeah,

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you know, your day has one of two exits. And

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you're not going to enjoy either one of them.

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This is no longer a consensual matter. No, no.

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But no, we wanted to discuss, I guess, it is

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from very much an American perspective. We are

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aware of that. But the existence of American

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gun culture and why really is kind of the big

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thing. Why does it exist? What are kind of our

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thoughts on it? The reasons for it? some general

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advice some general discussion things like that

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we're leaving it kind of open because there's

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a lot for us to discuss but you also didn't want

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to talk about the reasons for and against but

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also really comparing to other countries i looked

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up some data and some statistics and there's

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some stuff we to full disclosure we're both avid

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guys in the second amendment community i'm not

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gonna lie and say either one of us isn't because

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we both are um right yeah We might have a little

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bit of a bias towards it, but I think we're both

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mature enough to also understand the complications

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and issues that comes with any sort of right

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or liberty and things like that. That's where

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it comes in. Here's a thought that I've held

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for many years. If you could snap your fingers

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like Thanos snap and just get rid of all the

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firearms on the face of the earth, it wouldn't

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really change a whole lot. In the way that people

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still kill each other and do general harm to

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each other because people kind of suck. It's

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far more of a culture thing than a weapon thing.

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Yeah. There's the age old phrase, you know, guns

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don't kill people, people do. And it's really

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accurate only because. The methodology is all

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that's evolved through the years. The premise

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and the outcome has remained the same. All the

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way through history, the evolution of weaponry

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has increased in technological advancement. But

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the want to do harm has remained the same. I

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mean, from the invention of the bow and arrow

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way back in the day when we decided, I want to

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stab that guy, but he's way the fuck over there.

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All the way to I need that. That cow in my freezer.

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I mean, OK, we don't hunt cows. I just animal

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popped in my head. I'm kind of hungry, too. So

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a steak sounds really great right now. Yes. Burger,

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cheeseburger. Did you ever see that of that dude

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at it? Which one? Would the guy say that? Oh,

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God, what is his name? The big fat guy that's

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in Dune. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, we're

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outside singing that. Oh, I laugh every time.

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Every time. Oh, yes. But one reason that I feel

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like most Europeans especially look so down on

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American gun culture. is because they've had

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the convenience of having a country, well, a

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set of countries that have existed for the majority

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of occupied human civilization. America, and

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I'm just going to read from the notes I wrote

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earlier, America came to depend on the firearm

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for westward expansion. Europe, by and large,

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has been settled for the majority of human civilization.

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While the needs have changed over time, The history

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still remains, and for those who have a more

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detached sense from the history of their own

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freedom, it's difficult for many to see the need

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for having access to firearms like we do here

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in America. One needs only to look around and

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then ask themselves, how would the American citizenry

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have been really treated over the last six years

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if we weren't as well -armed as we are? And you'll

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have your answer. In some countries, rights and

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freedoms have been eroded away to the point that

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kitchen utensils are now feared by the government

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in the hands of its people. Imagine if those

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same people became armed at an American level

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overnight. I mean, rivers would run brown. More

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brown than they do now. Unless it's India, in

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which case they're all brown. The rivers. It's

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a multi -level joke. Take it for what it is.

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I get it. One thing that all firearms owners

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and advocates have to keep in mind, and yes,

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I'm going to quote Spider -Man on this one, is

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that with great power comes great responsibility.

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We have to accept that if we're going to continue

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to push for the rights of ownership of firearms,

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we are going to have to deal with the fact that

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bad shit will happen. We need to find ways to

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mitigate it. prevent it by any means necessary

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i feel like people who advocate for gun control

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their heart is in the right place but their methodologies

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are piss poor plain and simple do you have any

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quick thoughts on that one so i think america

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and europe looks at it in two fundamental different

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ways because really our country He's really kind

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of founded on individual rights and freedom,

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the idea that you are responsible for yourself,

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your family, and it's not from the collective

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group. It's not their responsibility, whereas

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in Europe, you are right, there is no wilderness.

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There is nothing to be explored. Everything is

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kind of found. There's always someone around

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the corner. There's always a village. There's

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always a protected space. There's always someone

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you can go to for backup or for help. There is

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some sort of level of bureaucracy or government

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or official or military. There's someone there.

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So in the case of most of Europe, you're not

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actually alone. You might be responsible for

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yourself, but really, it's kind of it's more

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of a collective mentality of everybody's there

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to help everybody, which is great for them. And

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that's cool. I'm glad you do that in your country.

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But we were founded specifically on the idea

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of kind of the the individual rights, liberties

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and freedoms from more like views from John Locke,

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for example, and a few others of our of our kind

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of founding ideas coming from very much the.

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French and English classic liberalism is basically

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what that's called. Those ideas of being... It's

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not from the government. I see your face over

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there. It's not from the government, but it's

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more from people that were great minds and thinkers

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back then, from France and England, coming up

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with the idea of individual liberties and freedoms,

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not from the government, but as per the individual.

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So in America, why the reason that we have firearms

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is not only due to our, really, geography, but

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also... Because it was from the Founding Fathers

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saying, hey, it's up to you. At the end of the

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day, no one's coming to save you. At the end

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of the day, no one's always going to be there.

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There's so much unexplored wilderness, so much

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area that it's your responsibility at the end

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of the day, which is great. But that does mean,

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and I agree with you 100%, that there are some

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negatives, some issues when you have to have

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people be responsible for it. There are some

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rare cases where those people can't handle that

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responsibility or some people don't understand

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And so it's I understand why some Europeans might

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not get it because to them They don't have these

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kind of issues a bear isn't gonna come out of

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the woods and hurt them or a Crocodile like a

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floor is just gonna come over there trying to

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eat your dog But like in America we have those

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issues, but also in Europe and from by and large.

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They've really Kind of hunted a lot of things

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out of extinction They've had people there for

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so long have so many things documented that There

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really isn't much of a threat There's nothing

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hunting humans out there. Where is it America

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like not for nothing mountain lions are scary

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as hell Are you yeah, there are places in America,

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you know, even though I live near an area that's

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like pretty well populated We still have mountain

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lions. We still have bears We still have things

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that will kill you and they will not give two

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shits about it And I'm not saying that's the

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only reason, but it is a very good reason to

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have that option. Yeah. Firearms are definitely

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tools. Um, no different than a hammer and use

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appropriately or inappropriately can kill. Um,

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just like anything. Yes. Yeah. I mean, keeping

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firearms for personal protection, protection

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of the home and property. Not something that

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the vast majority of Europe has to deal with.

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Another thing, people in Europe often fail to

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realize how absolutely massive this country is.

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You know, they talk about taking a train and

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going from Germany to Lithuania to Italy in the

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same day. We can barely get from. One time zone

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to the next in the same day. By most average

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means of transportation. Not to mention most

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of our, you know, mass transit systems are shit.

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Give you an idea of the size difference and what

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I want to make people understand. Europe is about

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3 .93 million square miles, whereas the U .S.

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is 3 .8. However, Europe has almost double the

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population. Sorry, over double the population.

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I'm sorry. We're at, like, what, 340 million?

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And Europe's around 750 million? So, I mean,

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you're talking barely more space over double

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the population. A .K .A. less than half the square

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footage to go around. Just a little bit of context

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to put in there, because it doesn't look like

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it on maps when you're looking it up. Oh, is

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it really that much different? No, it is. So.

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I didn't think it was. Sorry about the background

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noise there for a second. I had to adjust some.

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All good. Is it gone now? Not so much. Man, one

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second. All right. But aside from, yeah, aside

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from self -defense, people like to hunt. We like

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to shoot for sport. We have the collector's side.

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sheer fact that it's just a part of our culture.

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It's been ingrained in our entire constitution

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as a part of our history. I don't know how big

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the hunting aspect is over in Europe. I know

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they do have some areas for it. Some countries,

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I would assume, have more availability than others.

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I know the countries are still big. Spain, Germany,

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France, those are three of the bigger ones that

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come to mind. I know they have hunting in some

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of those areas. Sports shooting. I'm not familiar

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with the sports circuits over in Europe, but

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I know our one European friend on Discord, he's

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talked about some of the things that he gets

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into. It depends on the country, though, because

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some countries are really restrictive, some aren't.

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I think the thing that's unique with America

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is the carrying part of it. like there's a lot

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of countries in europe where you can own stuff

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granted it's highly regulated it's that you're

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really only allowed to have it like going to

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and from a range or to and from a sporting event

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whereas you can't really carry it daily for self

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-defense right that's the big we have we have

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the unique ability to be our own um police force

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here in america um and again that comes with

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a very high level of personal responsibility

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um The nice thing is the vast majority of people

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who decide to carry are very well trained. They

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are more level headed, generally speaking. And

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I'll touch on that here in a second. Just remind

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me of constitutional carry. They are the ones

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who you want on your side in a really bad situation.

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When it comes to the concept of constitutional

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carry, I will play devil's advocate because as

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a former firearms instructor, I have always been

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an advocate of training. If you're going to make

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the conscious decision to carry a firearm, you

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need to have the training and skills necessary

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to use it effectively and to be aware of the

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consequences of not just you using it effectively,

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but using it ineffectively or misusing it. Because

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when you've got that firearm with you, so many

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things all of a sudden become different situations.

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Oh, absolutely. I mean, it's one of those things

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where you are only as good as your training.

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If you have not trained for something, that means

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you're going to be handling it like it's the

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first time. There are some things in life you

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can't really train for, don't get me wrong. But

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in terms of handling a firearm as a daily protection,

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that is something that you should seek out in

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search and get that training for because at the

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end of the day not only in terms of a moral argument

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are you responsible but legally you are responsible

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there's two different avenues here for the discussion

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the one is morally absolutely you should be proficient

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with your firearm if you're not proficient with

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it there's no point in you carrying it really

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at that point because you could be more of a

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liability than anything number two legally you

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have to understand in this country If you make

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even the smallest mistake, straight to jail.

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No discussion, straight to jail. Do not pass

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go, do not collect $200. No, you will owe thousands.

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And states purposely go out of their way to come

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after you. And many states have shown, and you

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can see it in the proceedings, you can see it

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in these court cases, where even if you are legally

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within your right to defend yourself, there are

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some states that will still throw the book at

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you. they will still come after you. So you not

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only have to be professional with your firearm,

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but you have to understand the laws in your state.

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And especially if you're traveling from state

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to state. I think a lot of Europeans don't understand

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that America, sure, it might be legal to carry

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depending on your situation. But we are 50 little

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countries within a big country. And those laws

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are not universal right now. Hopefully that changes.

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But those laws are not universal. And they're

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highly situational. And in many cases... What

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is legal in some state is not legal in another,

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especially with things like castle doctrine,

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especially with having a duty to either run away

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or to deescalate or to disengage. It entirely

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depends on your state. In many of those situations,

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many of those laws, I vehemently disagree with.

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But it's unfortunate to where you could do everything

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right by the laws of, let's just say, Texas.

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But if you happen to live in New Jersey, you

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go to jail. Yeah, I have a big problem with a

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law that says if someone breaks into your house,

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you have to try to get out of your own house.

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Yep, there's New Jersey. I'm sorry, what? New

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Jersey, California, Massachusetts, Hawaii. I

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wanted to say New York as well. I think Illinois.

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Probably Illinois too. You have a duty to retreat,

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where the idea is that if somebody breaks into

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your house, you have the legal obligation to

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first... Make an effort and try to retreat out

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of the home and then if they pursue you Then

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you can engage The problem is that you're assuming

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the intent on the intruder at that point and

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you have to play this weird legal game in some

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states of You have to make sure you can either

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and I can't say this without I I can't imply

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this But you either have to assume what the person

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that's trying to get into your home is doing

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Or you have to make it so they can't not assume

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and it's very unfortunate that our laws have

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basically made it so you have to effectively

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handle the situation part of the conversation

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yeah i'm trying to say it without violating any

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rules here but that's one of the problems i have

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is when they regulate it so much that i am forced

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to in the state that i live in deal with things

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in the worst way possible and that is that scenario

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it's ridiculous but so fun fact if you're involved

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in a situation where you have to discharge a

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firearm, even in self -defense. And even if you

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know, beyond a shadow of a doubt that you are

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in the clear, you're still going to probably

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spend at least a night in jail. That's just the

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shitty fact of it. And it's more so just because

00:19:01.700 --> 00:19:04.059
the police were trying to do their job and they

00:19:04.059 --> 00:19:05.980
have to sort through the facts. They have to

00:19:05.980 --> 00:19:10.019
sort through the situation. I get. So that was

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one thing that I taught in my classes was. If

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you're involved in this situation, here's what

00:19:14.980 --> 00:19:19.839
you need to be prepared for. And having firearm

00:19:19.839 --> 00:19:24.039
insurance, having the carry insurance, some of

00:19:24.039 --> 00:19:26.319
the different services that are out there, you

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know, they vary. For the most part, they'll cover

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the vast majority of issues, but there's still

00:19:33.380 --> 00:19:35.539
going to be just that initial mental anguish

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because God forbid you're in that situation,

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you will have just taken a life. That in and

00:19:42.420 --> 00:19:44.859
of itself is something that a lot of people cannot

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handle. Whether it was a good shoot or not, there

00:19:49.319 --> 00:19:52.759
are a lot of good people out there who know that

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what they're doing is and was right that are

00:19:55.720 --> 00:19:59.299
going to struggle every day having known what

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they did. And I don't want to put that on anybody

00:20:03.539 --> 00:20:05.900
else, but that's why we do it. That's why we

00:20:05.900 --> 00:20:08.650
carry it. That's why we have. These tools to

00:20:08.650 --> 00:20:10.690
protect our family because they are the ones

00:20:10.690 --> 00:20:16.250
who cannot protect themselves. Exactly. At the

00:20:16.250 --> 00:20:19.150
end of the day, a firearm is the great equalizer.

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It's the tool that allows a 120 pound woman to

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be able to fight off a 250 pound attacker. Yeah.

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Again, if she's trained to use it properly. And

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that's it. That's that is the biggest caveat.

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Is. That's always been one of the biggest things

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I've always told other people. If you're going

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to care and get to that, for the love of God,

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get some training with somebody that is qualified,

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that has years of experience, that knows what

00:20:47.700 --> 00:20:51.180
they're talking about, and somebody that's reputable.

00:20:51.359 --> 00:20:53.720
Because also, I've seen these guys too. If you

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go to these people on YouTube, I don't want to

00:20:55.359 --> 00:20:57.059
name drop who they are, but I'm sure you've seen

00:20:57.059 --> 00:21:00.000
them where they give you these BS, you know,

00:21:00.019 --> 00:21:02.240
self -defense situations or BS things they do

00:21:02.240 --> 00:21:04.279
with a firearm, thinking they're Neo from the

00:21:04.279 --> 00:21:06.799
Matrix or some sort of crap. Like, no, no, no,

00:21:06.880 --> 00:21:09.119
no. Or people that have never been in that situation

00:21:09.119 --> 00:21:10.779
trying to tell other people how to handle it.

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No way. Find the people that will train in real

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life situations. Find the people that you have

00:21:16.759 --> 00:21:20.099
to sign the consent forms to train with. Yes.

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They're the ones who will put you into the situations

00:21:23.079 --> 00:21:26.500
that will really stress you out. They're the

00:21:26.500 --> 00:21:29.279
ones that will engage you. They're the ones who

00:21:29.279 --> 00:21:32.319
will test you. And they're hard to find. Yeah.

00:21:32.799 --> 00:21:34.259
Because there's not a lot of them out there anymore

00:21:34.259 --> 00:21:38.230
because. Quite frankly, they get me too. No,

00:21:38.349 --> 00:21:40.609
not only even though they signed up for the course.

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This is what you're here for. No, it's not just

00:21:45.170 --> 00:21:47.869
me too as well, but also for legal reasons. Yeah,

00:21:47.869 --> 00:21:51.990
just various legal reasons for liability. Unfortunately,

00:21:52.130 --> 00:21:54.230
we've created a system and this is large part

00:21:54.230 --> 00:21:57.349
due to our politicians where we have the right

00:21:57.349 --> 00:21:58.690
to carry, but it seems like we don't have the

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right to train. There's this really weird thing

00:22:00.930 --> 00:22:05.660
where getting meaningful, reliable. information

00:22:05.660 --> 00:22:09.920
and training that also coincides with local state

00:22:09.920 --> 00:22:13.059
and then federal guidelines is something that

00:22:13.059 --> 00:22:15.740
it's damn near impossible unless you're like

00:22:15.740 --> 00:22:17.640
the secret service or something crazy some sort

00:22:17.640 --> 00:22:19.920
of specialized group some high -end security

00:22:19.920 --> 00:22:22.680
group as a civilian it's very difficult to get

00:22:22.680 --> 00:22:25.440
i'm not saying you can't but it is difficult

00:22:25.440 --> 00:22:29.160
so just be aware understand i want europeans

00:22:29.160 --> 00:22:33.920
to understand that the vast majority of americans

00:22:33.920 --> 00:22:36.849
that carry are people like us that try our best

00:22:36.849 --> 00:22:39.130
to be responsible, that try our best to train,

00:22:39.289 --> 00:22:45.109
that hope to God we never have to use it. It's

00:22:45.109 --> 00:22:48.690
the one thing that we have at the ready every

00:22:48.690 --> 00:22:52.170
single day that we hope to hell we never have

00:22:52.170 --> 00:22:57.369
to actually use. No. It's like having a parachute

00:22:57.369 --> 00:23:00.190
when you're flying a plane. You sure as hell

00:23:00.190 --> 00:23:03.150
want it if you need it, but you definitely don't

00:23:03.150 --> 00:23:05.680
want to have to reach for it. Oh, no, no, no.

00:23:05.740 --> 00:23:07.740
Because if that's the case, your day has gone

00:23:07.740 --> 00:23:11.119
from good to shit very badly. My pants are suddenly

00:23:11.119 --> 00:23:16.019
brown. Let's start the day that way. No. The

00:23:16.019 --> 00:23:17.920
only thing I can give to people for training

00:23:17.920 --> 00:23:19.339
advice, and this has been a recent thing for

00:23:19.339 --> 00:23:22.420
me, they make for a lot of handguns, they make

00:23:22.420 --> 00:23:24.839
like one -to -one metal replicas in airsoft.

00:23:25.000 --> 00:23:30.059
Yes. And I found my M17, there is a metal, like

00:23:30.059 --> 00:23:31.720
it all steel, everything feels the same way,

00:23:31.740 --> 00:23:33.920
but it's an airsoft replica. now i'm teaching

00:23:33.920 --> 00:23:35.680
my girlfriend how to like do stuff and how to

00:23:35.680 --> 00:23:37.039
do in situations that i even do with things with

00:23:37.039 --> 00:23:39.279
it that like i wouldn't feel comfortable using

00:23:39.279 --> 00:23:42.819
with a properly loaded real one doing trainings

00:23:42.819 --> 00:23:45.299
around the house but now i can use that and it's

00:23:45.299 --> 00:23:48.220
that one to one it's almost the same weight obviously

00:23:48.220 --> 00:23:50.839
it's a couple ounces off but there are training

00:23:50.839 --> 00:23:53.119
tools to where even if you can't get access some

00:23:53.119 --> 00:23:55.200
of these other trainings at least there are facsimiles

00:23:55.200 --> 00:23:58.440
and replicas that will get you close that will

00:23:58.440 --> 00:24:00.220
get you to where you can practice these basic

00:24:00.220 --> 00:24:03.559
things Even those laser systems that replace

00:24:03.559 --> 00:24:06.819
the cartridges, they will get you with that first

00:24:06.819 --> 00:24:08.599
shot placement because a lot of that's just muscle

00:24:08.599 --> 00:24:13.819
memory. Oh, yeah. And they're good. The technology

00:24:13.819 --> 00:24:15.640
for that has come a long way over the years.

00:24:16.779 --> 00:24:18.500
That's a big thing to look for, that there's

00:24:18.500 --> 00:24:21.599
like nine or ten different systems like that

00:24:21.599 --> 00:24:24.039
with various names that you can have as training

00:24:24.039 --> 00:24:27.019
tools around the house. Yeah. And that's something

00:24:27.019 --> 00:24:31.269
as well, if you're going to carry at least, Try

00:24:31.269 --> 00:24:35.670
to develop a regular schedule to handle the firearms,

00:24:35.910 --> 00:24:38.670
train them, disassemble, reassemble, do some

00:24:38.670 --> 00:24:40.690
maintenance, that kind of stuff. Because I hate

00:24:40.690 --> 00:24:42.210
to say it, no matter how much training you have,

00:24:42.390 --> 00:24:45.089
if you walk away from it for years, you're going

00:24:45.089 --> 00:24:47.849
to be rusty. Don't trust. It's like I always

00:24:47.849 --> 00:24:50.250
bring it from like, for example, I'm a musician

00:24:50.250 --> 00:24:53.349
by trade. And if I walk away from my guitar for

00:24:53.349 --> 00:24:55.630
a few months, holy hell, I'm like, Jesus Christ,

00:24:55.829 --> 00:24:58.609
how am I suddenly playing in Japanese? I don't

00:24:58.609 --> 00:25:01.470
understand it. This has suddenly changed to a

00:25:01.470 --> 00:25:03.410
different thing, and I don't get it. It takes

00:25:03.410 --> 00:25:04.690
me a little while to pick it back up. Same thing

00:25:04.690 --> 00:25:06.630
even with firearms. Sure, I can handle my stuff

00:25:06.630 --> 00:25:09.529
and do what I got to do, but there's no way I'll

00:25:09.529 --> 00:25:12.630
be as proficient if I just take that 15, 20 minutes

00:25:12.630 --> 00:25:16.289
a week, handle the firearms, go through my training,

00:25:16.390 --> 00:25:19.180
go through my process and procedure. And there's

00:25:19.180 --> 00:25:21.319
tons of good guides on YouTube about things to

00:25:21.319 --> 00:25:24.039
do on a weekly basis for any of your firearms.

00:25:25.200 --> 00:25:29.079
Because if you're one of those people that hasn't

00:25:29.079 --> 00:25:30.200
used it in a while and you have to use a self

00:25:30.200 --> 00:25:31.680
-defense situation, you're like, where the fuck

00:25:31.680 --> 00:25:34.299
is my safety? Yeah, that's a great way to get

00:25:34.299 --> 00:25:38.559
shot. That's great. Yeah, that's one reason why

00:25:38.559 --> 00:25:41.400
for all the important things, you can get the

00:25:41.400 --> 00:25:43.599
ones that just either don't have safeties or

00:25:43.599 --> 00:25:45.839
they're built into the triggers. Or the grip

00:25:45.839 --> 00:25:48.099
safety, get a 1911 where it's just nice and simple.

00:25:49.149 --> 00:25:55.309
Yeah, so. Although I'll give Canik some credit.

00:25:55.410 --> 00:25:57.210
I love that trigger safety on that thing. Oh,

00:25:57.210 --> 00:26:03.390
I love Canik. Canik, please sponsor us. I'm a

00:26:03.390 --> 00:26:05.309
Canik fan. The Canik line. I'll tell you right

00:26:05.309 --> 00:26:07.589
now. Yes. I tell you what, I have probably been

00:26:07.589 --> 00:26:10.470
responsible for more sales from Canik than anybody

00:26:10.470 --> 00:26:12.390
else I know. I'm probably going to buy a second

00:26:12.390 --> 00:26:17.869
one. Yeah. Getting a hold of their stuff, man.

00:26:18.990 --> 00:26:22.089
It's glorious. Like, they make quality stuff.

00:26:22.730 --> 00:26:26.049
They're inexpensive, too. Right. I have buddies

00:26:26.049 --> 00:26:27.549
that spent double the amount of money on Smith

00:26:27.549 --> 00:26:29.089
at Weston, and they were like, God damn it, you

00:26:29.089 --> 00:26:32.369
have a better trigger. Mm -hmm. Dude, those triggers

00:26:32.369 --> 00:26:35.869
are so crisp. Some of the best in the game, you

00:26:35.869 --> 00:26:38.369
got to spend double or triple the money to get

00:26:38.369 --> 00:26:43.089
close. Yeah. And their match -level offering

00:26:43.089 --> 00:26:46.809
is like $500 out of the box, and it is match

00:26:46.809 --> 00:26:52.039
-ready, good to go. And it's solid. I've actually

00:26:52.039 --> 00:26:54.559
handled some of their higher end stuff, like

00:26:54.559 --> 00:26:58.359
the $800 ones. Uh -huh. Jesus Christ. They're

00:26:58.359 --> 00:27:01.519
so good. The amount of times, do you guys have

00:27:01.519 --> 00:27:03.220
an idea? The amount of times I have contemplated

00:27:03.220 --> 00:27:06.279
just selling off five or six of my pistols just

00:27:06.279 --> 00:27:08.299
to be like, I'm just going to go volcanic. Just

00:27:08.299 --> 00:27:09.920
like, I'll just have a nice one. I'll have a

00:27:09.920 --> 00:27:12.240
subcompact. I have my compact. I have my full

00:27:12.240 --> 00:27:18.279
size. Like, I'm sorry. It's good to know that

00:27:18.279 --> 00:27:20.700
you still have some because I lost all mine in

00:27:20.700 --> 00:27:28.140
a boating accident. There are jokes that I cannot

00:27:28.140 --> 00:27:29.859
make on stream because of the state. I know.

00:27:30.119 --> 00:27:34.400
I know. But no, if we go all the way back to

00:27:34.400 --> 00:27:38.700
when the Constitution was written, the writing

00:27:38.700 --> 00:27:41.660
of the Second Amendment should have included

00:27:41.660 --> 00:27:45.619
a lot more than what it has. The Federalist Papers,

00:27:45.680 --> 00:27:50.619
in particular, paper number 29, was one of the

00:27:50.619 --> 00:27:54.180
bigger supporting documents that had the information

00:27:54.180 --> 00:27:58.720
that really dictates and details a lot of the

00:27:58.720 --> 00:28:02.619
information on the Second Amendment. There was

00:28:02.619 --> 00:28:04.420
a lot of concern about government power at the

00:28:04.420 --> 00:28:08.140
time, and they saw what could have become and

00:28:08.140 --> 00:28:12.359
the overreach government could have with respect

00:28:12.359 --> 00:28:18.099
to everything. eventually has come to pass. The

00:28:18.099 --> 00:28:22.519
well -regulated militia debate has been going

00:28:22.519 --> 00:28:27.059
on for about 200 years at this point. When it

00:28:27.059 --> 00:28:30.880
was written, well -regulated simply meant organized,

00:28:30.940 --> 00:28:35.039
disciplined, and supplied. Precisely. The new

00:28:35.039 --> 00:28:38.180
interpretations literally mean, well, there should

00:28:38.180 --> 00:28:42.589
be regulations and laws against it. And I don't

00:28:42.589 --> 00:28:44.910
know when that interpretation changed. The way

00:28:44.910 --> 00:28:47.309
people are looking at it originally, it was militia

00:28:47.309 --> 00:28:50.710
meant of organized and supplied by the people,

00:28:50.829 --> 00:28:53.430
not a government regulated thing. Whereas now

00:28:53.430 --> 00:28:56.230
people are thinking militia means, oh, it's government

00:28:56.230 --> 00:29:00.150
regulated, oriented, run, supplied. And that's

00:29:00.150 --> 00:29:04.369
wrong. The language of the time was of the people,

00:29:04.430 --> 00:29:06.049
by the people, for the people. When it comes

00:29:06.049 --> 00:29:09.440
to a militia. the idea was that the militia would

00:29:09.440 --> 00:29:13.039
always be stronger than any federal military

00:29:13.039 --> 00:29:17.380
force so the idea was no matter who came to be

00:29:17.380 --> 00:29:20.299
empowered no matter who came in charge it would

00:29:20.299 --> 00:29:23.039
be the people that overall ruled how do you know

00:29:23.039 --> 00:29:26.660
this because in the constitution the idea is

00:29:26.660 --> 00:29:30.069
for the people to have the deciding vote and

00:29:30.069 --> 00:29:33.049
the ability to overthrow all threats, foreign

00:29:33.049 --> 00:29:35.910
and domestic, including any sort of government

00:29:35.910 --> 00:29:40.250
they do not like. Not just the ability, the duty

00:29:40.250 --> 00:29:43.109
as well. Yeah, absolutely. That is the obligation.

00:29:43.690 --> 00:29:46.210
That's part of that responsibility of being a

00:29:46.210 --> 00:29:48.069
gun owner of fortress. That's supposed to be,

00:29:48.230 --> 00:29:50.309
hey, if you have a tyrannical government, it's

00:29:50.309 --> 00:29:52.829
up to you guys. You have the legal right and

00:29:52.829 --> 00:29:55.170
authority, something that people kind of forget

00:29:55.170 --> 00:29:58.490
nowadays. Our founding fathers kind of saw where

00:29:58.490 --> 00:30:00.950
all this stuff was going, you know, hundreds

00:30:00.950 --> 00:30:02.930
of years ago. And unfortunately, we're there.

00:30:03.950 --> 00:30:07.670
Man, listen, if AI goes the way it's going and

00:30:07.670 --> 00:30:10.690
it develops time travel, I want to go back, like

00:30:10.690 --> 00:30:13.329
get in the phone booth, go back and get a couple

00:30:13.329 --> 00:30:15.589
of those guys and bring them up here and let

00:30:15.589 --> 00:30:17.710
them see what the world became and just talk

00:30:17.710 --> 00:30:20.190
to them and be like, what do y 'all think? Maybe

00:30:20.190 --> 00:30:22.690
you need some rewrites there. So what we need

00:30:22.690 --> 00:30:25.069
to tell them is explain the Constitution to people

00:30:25.069 --> 00:30:28.430
like they're five years old. just redo the whole

00:30:28.430 --> 00:30:30.490
thing what you just do the constitution which

00:30:30.490 --> 00:30:32.950
is great love it do the bill of rights and say

00:30:32.950 --> 00:30:35.069
imagine if people were beaten with the stupid

00:30:35.069 --> 00:30:38.269
stick mercilessly just for hours and hours a

00:30:38.269 --> 00:30:42.710
day get them to understand it yeah then you're

00:30:42.710 --> 00:30:45.869
good then you're on the right track and the thing

00:30:45.869 --> 00:30:48.250
is i i don't blame people nowadays because this

00:30:48.250 --> 00:30:50.710
is like my little side rant if you're in part

00:30:50.710 --> 00:30:55.470
of modern academia you might not understand that

00:30:55.470 --> 00:30:59.529
words definitionally change over time there's

00:30:59.529 --> 00:31:03.089
something called connotation and denotation so

00:31:03.089 --> 00:31:06.950
the idea is most language is always written in

00:31:06.950 --> 00:31:10.150
connotation or the ideas that what are the words

00:31:10.150 --> 00:31:12.769
meaning to us at the time what other emotions

00:31:12.769 --> 00:31:14.630
or definitions are listed whereas denotation

00:31:14.630 --> 00:31:18.890
means definitionally now what's supposed to happen

00:31:19.599 --> 00:31:21.319
Is whenever you're reading any sort of historical

00:31:21.319 --> 00:31:24.099
document, you have to take both into perspective.

00:31:24.400 --> 00:31:28.519
And most of all, the founding fathers were well

00:31:28.519 --> 00:31:30.960
or decently well educated. So they chose their

00:31:30.960 --> 00:31:33.700
words very carefully. They spent months, if not

00:31:33.700 --> 00:31:37.500
years, crafting that constitution. Every single

00:31:37.500 --> 00:31:41.779
word was. Well thought out. Debated over. Exactly.

00:31:41.920 --> 00:31:45.539
And deliberated on. So what you need to understand

00:31:45.539 --> 00:31:47.660
is have to take into consideration the connotation,

00:31:47.660 --> 00:31:50.319
meaning. The words with the meaning of the time

00:31:50.319 --> 00:31:53.559
and the denotation, which is the words as of

00:31:53.559 --> 00:31:56.460
how they're defined throughout history and to

00:31:56.460 --> 00:32:00.180
today. And compare and contrast that. But people

00:32:00.180 --> 00:32:01.740
like to look at that document and say, oh, well,

00:32:01.819 --> 00:32:04.400
this word means this now. It's like, well, yes,

00:32:04.480 --> 00:32:07.859
but it hasn't always meant that. Language is

00:32:07.859 --> 00:32:12.019
constantly evolving. You have to take it at the

00:32:12.019 --> 00:32:14.819
time of what was written to help understand the

00:32:14.819 --> 00:32:20.539
context. Now. They used words with the assumption

00:32:20.539 --> 00:32:23.180
back then, because remember, back then it was

00:32:23.180 --> 00:32:25.640
only landowners were voting, only those people

00:32:25.640 --> 00:32:27.339
that were wealthy and that were actually invested

00:32:27.339 --> 00:32:29.819
in the country were voting. So they had assumed

00:32:29.819 --> 00:32:31.720
that that was always going to be the case, and

00:32:31.720 --> 00:32:33.319
that the idea is that those people that were

00:32:33.319 --> 00:32:36.000
wealthy enough or invested enough or educated

00:32:36.000 --> 00:32:38.519
enough would be the ones voting, therefore they

00:32:38.519 --> 00:32:41.319
would understand what these words meant. And

00:32:41.319 --> 00:32:42.619
I'm not saying that was a good or a bad thing,

00:32:42.680 --> 00:32:44.720
but that was the general assumption for when

00:32:44.720 --> 00:32:48.579
the country was founded. Well, I think they always

00:32:48.579 --> 00:32:52.700
assumed educated people would always stay educated

00:32:52.700 --> 00:32:55.420
and intelligence would increase throughout the

00:32:55.420 --> 00:32:58.200
years. They never could have imagined a dumbing

00:32:58.200 --> 00:33:00.880
down of society like we've seen in the past 40

00:33:00.880 --> 00:33:03.039
or 50 years. Oh, absolutely. Odd enough, we just

00:33:03.039 --> 00:33:05.720
touched on that. Well, they never thought people

00:33:05.720 --> 00:33:10.000
would be so removed from what the, I guess the

00:33:10.000 --> 00:33:12.059
crisis of the human condition is or the brutality

00:33:12.059 --> 00:33:15.130
of the human condition. where the reality of

00:33:15.130 --> 00:33:16.769
the world is something that's very violent, very

00:33:16.769 --> 00:33:20.490
brutal, and very disgusting. And we, thankfully,

00:33:20.529 --> 00:33:22.109
in the Western society, are so far removed from

00:33:22.109 --> 00:33:23.150
it that we don't have to deal with that kind

00:33:23.150 --> 00:33:25.849
of stuff. Whereas the Founding Fathers saw exactly

00:33:25.849 --> 00:33:27.829
what happened. I mean, to give you an idea of

00:33:27.829 --> 00:33:28.809
the kind of stuff they went through on a daily

00:33:28.809 --> 00:33:31.029
basis, most of all those people would have to

00:33:31.029 --> 00:33:33.309
slaughter their own meat, slaughter their own

00:33:33.309 --> 00:33:35.910
animals. How many of us, I've had to do this

00:33:35.910 --> 00:33:37.890
once, and I'll be honest with you, as much of

00:33:37.890 --> 00:33:39.509
a man's man as I am, as much of a manly dude

00:33:39.509 --> 00:33:41.589
I am, I don't ever want to have to do this again,

00:33:41.650 --> 00:33:43.819
having to take a chicken and snap its neck. And

00:33:43.819 --> 00:33:45.160
they have to pluck all the feathers and do all

00:33:45.160 --> 00:33:48.099
that. Jesus Christ, that's horrifying. And these

00:33:48.099 --> 00:33:50.599
people, from the day they were like seven, were

00:33:50.599 --> 00:33:55.079
like, oh, hey, you know, I need chicken. You

00:33:55.079 --> 00:34:01.859
know, it's just, it's one of those things. Anyways,

00:34:02.079 --> 00:34:06.920
I don't even want to know in chat. So it is one

00:34:06.920 --> 00:34:11.800
of those things where. nowadays, we just go to

00:34:11.800 --> 00:34:14.480
the store and just chicken shows up, beef shows

00:34:14.480 --> 00:34:16.960
up, milk shows up. We're not involved with the

00:34:16.960 --> 00:34:20.199
process how to deal with these things. I don't

00:34:20.199 --> 00:34:22.519
think our founding fathers ever would have thought

00:34:22.519 --> 00:34:27.159
in a bajillion years that you could just go to

00:34:27.159 --> 00:34:30.320
this thing called a grocery store and have milk

00:34:30.320 --> 00:34:35.420
that's refrigerated. Right. That must be an amazing

00:34:35.420 --> 00:34:39.380
concept. So let alone... All the advancements,

00:34:39.380 --> 00:34:43.659
but also the. I guess the lack of common sense,

00:34:43.739 --> 00:34:47.099
I guess people are so far removed from it. That

00:34:47.099 --> 00:34:49.099
people don't understand this basic language.

00:34:51.500 --> 00:34:57.800
Yeah. The sheer lack of and loss of intelligence

00:34:57.800 --> 00:35:01.340
throughout the centuries. I think it would impress

00:35:01.340 --> 00:35:05.619
them. You know, I think they would be so dumbfounded

00:35:05.619 --> 00:35:11.039
by. They view us the way we view idiocracy. Probably,

00:35:11.099 --> 00:35:16.440
yeah. We are their idiocracy. Yes. 100%. Because

00:35:16.440 --> 00:35:17.679
what's crazy to think about back then is back

00:35:17.679 --> 00:35:20.199
then they all built their own houses. Oh, yeah.

00:35:21.460 --> 00:35:23.559
They'd just be like, yeah, I like this land.

00:35:23.679 --> 00:35:25.260
I will just go and build a house over the next

00:35:25.260 --> 00:35:29.000
few months. And mind you, most people our age

00:35:29.000 --> 00:35:30.280
are like, what the fuck is the right side of

00:35:30.280 --> 00:35:33.820
a hammer? And I hate to say that. What bathroom

00:35:33.820 --> 00:35:36.699
do I use? I'm not even going there. I'm not.

00:35:38.659 --> 00:35:41.219
I'm not even going there. I'm not touching that

00:35:41.219 --> 00:35:47.059
with a 39 and a half foot. No, but it's, and

00:35:47.059 --> 00:35:50.239
it's not, I feel bad because it's not the kid's

00:35:50.239 --> 00:35:54.219
fault. Now it is. It is. Their kids are taught

00:35:54.219 --> 00:35:57.500
what they're taught and they don't have any access

00:35:57.500 --> 00:36:01.159
for many years to learn on their own. And that's

00:36:01.159 --> 00:36:04.469
the problem. It's really society. And how this

00:36:04.469 --> 00:36:07.530
relates to firearms is pretty simple. The reason

00:36:07.530 --> 00:36:09.730
why so many people that are younger just simply

00:36:09.730 --> 00:36:12.230
don't know about firearms because they were never

00:36:12.230 --> 00:36:14.690
exposed. They look at it as something they see

00:36:14.690 --> 00:36:16.949
in the movies. It's something bad. The police

00:36:16.949 --> 00:36:20.070
misuse them. People misuse them. It always has

00:36:20.070 --> 00:36:23.389
a bad aura or a bad connotation around it. So

00:36:23.389 --> 00:36:25.170
no wonder why a lot of the younger people are

00:36:25.170 --> 00:36:29.349
like, oh, guns are bad. Where back in the day,

00:36:29.389 --> 00:36:32.860
and I'm so jealous. Back in like the 50s, 60s,

00:36:32.860 --> 00:36:34.260
even 70s, people used to just bring their hunting

00:36:34.260 --> 00:36:37.079
rifles with them to school. They'd be like 15

00:36:37.079 --> 00:36:39.059
or 16, like, oh, I'm going hunting with my dad

00:36:39.059 --> 00:36:40.719
later. So I just have my rifle loaded up into

00:36:40.719 --> 00:36:43.840
the truck and no one would care. Yeah, I'm old

00:36:43.840 --> 00:36:47.199
enough that at my school, being a more rural

00:36:47.199 --> 00:36:52.719
school, we, I can remember having shotguns in

00:36:52.719 --> 00:36:56.280
the rack of the truck because people either went

00:36:56.280 --> 00:36:58.780
hunting before or were going hunting after school.

00:36:59.179 --> 00:37:04.199
And it was not an issue. People where I live,

00:37:04.400 --> 00:37:08.139
it would be like, I wish I remember the name

00:37:08.139 --> 00:37:10.179
of the movie, but their head would not explode.

00:37:10.239 --> 00:37:13.280
It would implode, create a dying star, and then

00:37:13.280 --> 00:37:17.000
explode. They would not be able to fathom the

00:37:17.000 --> 00:37:21.659
idea of, you brought a gun within 500 feet of

00:37:21.659 --> 00:37:26.139
a school? What are you insane? People don't understand

00:37:26.139 --> 00:37:30.780
how quickly everything has changed. Not to mention

00:37:30.780 --> 00:37:33.880
that, In the 40s, 50s, 60s, and I think even

00:37:33.880 --> 00:37:37.059
into the 70s, a lot of schools had shooting competitions,

00:37:37.280 --> 00:37:40.559
shooting clubs, teams. They had classes. Classes.

00:37:40.820 --> 00:37:42.880
Yeah. I think that's something that should be

00:37:42.880 --> 00:37:45.800
brought back. I'll be honest. 100%. I really

00:37:45.800 --> 00:37:47.760
feel like what they should do is train with the

00:37:47.760 --> 00:37:50.159
local police department, with some retired guys

00:37:50.159 --> 00:37:52.980
from the police department, and they get to train

00:37:52.980 --> 00:37:55.920
with them. They get to go to the range with the

00:37:55.920 --> 00:37:58.139
kids, teach them how to use a firearm, stuff

00:37:58.139 --> 00:38:02.170
like that. it would make life a lot easier because

00:38:02.170 --> 00:38:04.190
now we do the police department get to know the

00:38:04.190 --> 00:38:06.690
kids in the high school and you know the elementary

00:38:06.690 --> 00:38:09.010
school high school middle school whatever but

00:38:09.010 --> 00:38:10.610
they have to see exactly how they can handle

00:38:10.610 --> 00:38:12.150
this kind of stuff how they can learn it and

00:38:12.150 --> 00:38:14.130
it's not like you have to give a kid a 50 cal

00:38:14.130 --> 00:38:16.949
like you know just 22s and stuff like that and

00:38:16.949 --> 00:38:20.750
small stuff right and crazy you know just they

00:38:20.750 --> 00:38:23.969
understand like the basics because one of my

00:38:23.969 --> 00:38:28.079
biggest worries in this world is somebody getting

00:38:28.079 --> 00:38:29.860
their hands on it in an emergency situation,

00:38:30.019 --> 00:38:31.619
having no idea and hurting themselves or someone

00:38:31.619 --> 00:38:34.119
else. And that's been the biggest thing why like

00:38:34.119 --> 00:38:36.619
everyone in my family I've taught that wanted

00:38:36.619 --> 00:38:38.820
to, that's willing to learn. I even have other

00:38:38.820 --> 00:38:40.239
members of my family that originally were anti

00:38:40.239 --> 00:38:42.099
firearm being like, Oh, can I at least learn

00:38:42.099 --> 00:38:44.719
how to use it? It's no, as you've said many times,

00:38:44.780 --> 00:38:46.639
it's no different than a tool. It's no different

00:38:46.639 --> 00:38:48.460
than a hammer, no different than a nail gun.

00:38:49.320 --> 00:38:51.659
It's good to learn how to use because even if

00:38:51.659 --> 00:38:55.280
you don't want to own it, I bet you at some point

00:38:55.280 --> 00:38:58.840
in your life, it's going to affect you. And especially

00:38:58.840 --> 00:39:01.739
it gives you a better perspective on how to interact

00:39:01.739 --> 00:39:05.019
with officers. This is the other thing I kind

00:39:05.019 --> 00:39:09.940
of wanted to bring up. Sure. Part of that training

00:39:09.940 --> 00:39:13.260
that we're talking about, when you're looking

00:39:13.260 --> 00:39:15.579
at it from a civilian perspective, it becomes

00:39:15.579 --> 00:39:18.840
very different when you look at it from a law

00:39:18.840 --> 00:39:22.559
enforcement perspective. If you watch the videos

00:39:22.559 --> 00:39:24.460
on some of the trains that they do, especially

00:39:24.460 --> 00:39:26.079
the ones where they have a firearm at the ready,

00:39:26.139 --> 00:39:28.119
it's like, when do you shoot or when do you react?

00:39:30.420 --> 00:39:32.039
That was something years ago that fundamentally

00:39:32.039 --> 00:39:35.039
changed where I look at it. Because for a little

00:39:35.039 --> 00:39:36.719
while when I was a kid, I got a little pissed

00:39:36.719 --> 00:39:38.059
off. Oh, they should just train better. Oh, they

00:39:38.059 --> 00:39:40.739
should just know better. And I was pretty arrogant

00:39:40.739 --> 00:39:41.800
about it. I'll be honest with you. I was a bit

00:39:41.800 --> 00:39:46.480
naive. But when I saw that split second decision,

00:39:46.699 --> 00:39:51.219
you have to make. and be 100 committed you can't

00:39:51.219 --> 00:39:54.679
question it yeah your your job is on the line

00:39:54.679 --> 00:39:56.480
your life is on the line someone else's life

00:39:56.480 --> 00:39:58.980
is on the line that is something that's very

00:39:58.980 --> 00:40:01.059
difficult that even with a lot of training no

00:40:01.059 --> 00:40:02.719
matter where you live in the world that is such

00:40:02.719 --> 00:40:07.119
a difficult call and there are a lot of simulators

00:40:07.119 --> 00:40:09.980
i'm sorry i i want to get this out there there

00:40:09.980 --> 00:40:12.599
are a lot of simulators out there that you can

00:40:12.599 --> 00:40:16.460
go to as a civilian and go through the police

00:40:16.460 --> 00:40:20.980
level engagement training They are done with

00:40:20.980 --> 00:40:26.519
actual police as the actors, and they recreate

00:40:26.519 --> 00:40:29.139
actual scenarios that they have been put into.

00:40:30.039 --> 00:40:34.440
It's all pre -recorded and everything, and it's

00:40:34.440 --> 00:40:38.239
laser pistols, but the scenarios that you're

00:40:38.239 --> 00:40:40.659
put into, these are real scenarios that real

00:40:40.659 --> 00:40:45.139
police were involved in. You get to see what

00:40:45.139 --> 00:40:48.400
they get to see and go through. In those split

00:40:48.400 --> 00:40:52.559
second decisions. And it's, it's something that's

00:40:52.559 --> 00:40:55.300
very difficult. And I feel like a lot of people

00:40:55.300 --> 00:40:57.059
that, that really complain about police. Cause

00:40:57.059 --> 00:40:58.880
don't worry. I have my issues in terms of American

00:40:58.880 --> 00:41:00.860
police and training. I feel like they're not

00:41:00.860 --> 00:41:02.800
trained well enough in a lot of aspects. And

00:41:02.800 --> 00:41:06.739
I know you're in the same boat. However, man,

00:41:06.860 --> 00:41:08.400
with a lot of that stuff, it's just so split

00:41:08.400 --> 00:41:12.280
second. That people try. We get to armchair dissect

00:41:12.280 --> 00:41:14.800
a lot of their decisions. Yeah. For days, weeks

00:41:14.800 --> 00:41:18.900
and months after they happen. And it's not fair

00:41:18.900 --> 00:41:21.800
to them because literally they see it from one

00:41:21.800 --> 00:41:24.739
angle for one second and have to make that call

00:41:24.739 --> 00:41:28.239
right there. And that's the thing is they're

00:41:28.239 --> 00:41:29.760
charged with protecting not only themselves,

00:41:29.860 --> 00:41:32.420
but everyone around them. And it's not always

00:41:32.420 --> 00:41:34.980
an easy call. One of the best I'd recommend is

00:41:34.980 --> 00:41:37.260
Donut Operator on YouTube. He's probably one

00:41:37.260 --> 00:41:40.480
of my favorite LEO breakdown guys. He breaks

00:41:40.480 --> 00:41:43.489
it down for the good and the bad. you know for

00:41:43.489 --> 00:41:45.070
both law enforcement and civilians and everything

00:41:45.070 --> 00:41:46.670
else he calls it out like the way he sees it

00:41:46.670 --> 00:41:49.949
and i feel like there's a lot of people that

00:41:49.949 --> 00:41:51.809
are anti -firearm that don't understand they

00:41:51.809 --> 00:41:53.690
don't take the time to watch these kind of informational

00:41:53.690 --> 00:41:57.929
videos to really get a grasp on how difficult

00:41:57.929 --> 00:42:00.329
it is and there's no there's no easy solution

00:42:00.329 --> 00:42:04.610
other than training other than taking a lot of

00:42:04.610 --> 00:42:07.269
time to understand it and to be fair i will say

00:42:07.269 --> 00:42:08.650
this i feel like a lot of police officers are

00:42:08.650 --> 00:42:10.349
kind of overworked in this country they work

00:42:10.349 --> 00:42:13.590
long hours expected long shifts. If you have

00:42:13.590 --> 00:42:16.090
a job where you are the pinnacle of making split

00:42:16.090 --> 00:42:19.269
-second decisions that have a lot of mental fatigue

00:42:19.269 --> 00:42:22.230
and that require very difficult calculations,

00:42:22.650 --> 00:42:24.750
we're not putting ourselves in a good situation

00:42:24.750 --> 00:42:26.670
by having these officers work 10, 12, 14, 18

00:42:26.670 --> 00:42:30.070
hours. That's just stupid. But that's a problem

00:42:30.070 --> 00:42:32.530
with the unions and law enforcement itself. That's

00:42:32.530 --> 00:42:33.829
a whole different discussion that I know we're

00:42:33.829 --> 00:42:36.650
going to have an episode on. But getting back

00:42:36.650 --> 00:42:42.190
to firearms. For the anti -fireman people, just

00:42:42.190 --> 00:42:43.969
have a little bit of empathy. That's all I can

00:42:43.969 --> 00:42:47.190
ask. And just watch some stuff and get some information.

00:42:47.190 --> 00:42:49.690
Take some training. Even if you never touch a

00:42:49.690 --> 00:42:51.710
firearm in your life, taking a couple of those

00:42:51.710 --> 00:42:54.570
courses, just so you understand, might save your

00:42:54.570 --> 00:42:57.030
life in a situation. Because vice versa, now

00:42:57.030 --> 00:42:58.530
you're going to understand what maybe an officer

00:42:58.530 --> 00:43:01.670
is looking for. Because, for example, if you're

00:43:01.670 --> 00:43:04.010
at a police stop or you're getting pulled over

00:43:04.010 --> 00:43:06.710
or something like that, you might not know you're

00:43:06.710 --> 00:43:09.179
acting suspiciously. where you're reaching around

00:43:09.179 --> 00:43:10.699
for something maybe you're wearing a sweatshirt

00:43:10.699 --> 00:43:12.539
you're reaching around for somewhere else and

00:43:12.539 --> 00:43:14.239
they you they might be coming over you might

00:43:14.239 --> 00:43:16.659
be oh yeah i gotta grab my hidey and you reach

00:43:16.659 --> 00:43:18.679
for something and they wonder why you got shot

00:43:18.679 --> 00:43:22.599
it's like well unfortunately you're behaving

00:43:22.599 --> 00:43:25.500
unknowingly in a way that's very suspicious that

00:43:25.500 --> 00:43:27.380
looks like somebody that would have an illegal

00:43:27.380 --> 00:43:33.139
firearm so real quick uh several years ago uh

00:43:33.139 --> 00:43:35.579
i went through a good portion of the police academy

00:43:37.480 --> 00:43:41.400
I didn't know that. Yeah, I had to get out because

00:43:41.400 --> 00:43:45.059
of physical issues. Absolutely shredded my calves.

00:43:45.739 --> 00:43:48.480
I was not at the weight I needed to be at when

00:43:48.480 --> 00:43:50.599
I started the training, but I was going to age

00:43:50.599 --> 00:43:53.639
out of the academy before I got it to it. So

00:43:53.639 --> 00:43:56.320
they boosted me through my training well before

00:43:56.320 --> 00:43:58.300
I was ready for it. I was trying to lose the

00:43:58.300 --> 00:43:59.679
weight, but it wasn't coming off fast enough,

00:43:59.800 --> 00:44:03.119
and long story. But I had gotten to the point

00:44:03.119 --> 00:44:04.539
in the training where I got to see some videos,

00:44:04.760 --> 00:44:08.409
and one of the videos I got to see, was what

00:44:08.409 --> 00:44:13.590
an officer sees during a traffic stop. And if

00:44:13.590 --> 00:44:16.570
you're somebody who gets really nervous and then

00:44:16.570 --> 00:44:19.389
you're like, oh, I got to grab my ID. I got to

00:44:19.389 --> 00:44:22.590
grab my insurance. All the cop can see is you

00:44:22.590 --> 00:44:26.010
rooting around looking for stuff. They're automatically

00:44:26.010 --> 00:44:28.369
going to go from a one to an eight real fucking

00:44:28.369 --> 00:44:31.989
quick because, oh, this guy's moving stuff around.

00:44:32.070 --> 00:44:33.730
Is he trying to hide something? Is he looking

00:44:33.730 --> 00:44:35.559
for something? Is he trying to get something

00:44:35.559 --> 00:44:39.260
that he can conceal and use against me? Like

00:44:39.260 --> 00:44:41.800
Gibbs is saying, go through some of these basic

00:44:41.800 --> 00:44:45.199
information courses. See the world through somebody

00:44:45.199 --> 00:44:49.780
else's eyes for two minutes. Just get that different

00:44:49.780 --> 00:44:53.340
perspective. It's 100 % worth an eye -opening.

00:44:53.539 --> 00:44:55.579
Because most of the people I know that really

00:44:55.579 --> 00:44:58.480
have an argument against firearm ownership have

00:44:58.480 --> 00:45:01.460
never gone through those. And once people see

00:45:01.460 --> 00:45:04.769
how quickly... that happens and that really changes

00:45:04.769 --> 00:45:07.969
their perspective like wow i get it i really

00:45:07.969 --> 00:45:14.250
do but something else to consider too and i i

00:45:14.250 --> 00:45:16.190
did want to move i just want to make a quick

00:45:16.190 --> 00:45:19.849
note for this point was in terms of politics

00:45:19.849 --> 00:45:23.989
firearm ownership this could be it's a whole

00:45:23.989 --> 00:45:26.230
episode i know but in terms of politics the only

00:45:26.230 --> 00:45:27.989
thing that really gets me was firearm ownership

00:45:27.989 --> 00:45:32.579
was never a big deal until the 80s or 90s I just

00:45:32.579 --> 00:45:34.239
want to point that out for everybody that thinks

00:45:34.239 --> 00:45:36.079
firearm ownership, Second Amendment stuff, is

00:45:36.079 --> 00:45:39.079
a left or right issue. No, it's really a case

00:45:39.079 --> 00:45:40.800
of people that want your individual freedoms

00:45:40.800 --> 00:45:42.780
or liberties and people that don't, fundamentally.

00:45:43.760 --> 00:45:46.019
There are people, and I will point this out,

00:45:46.059 --> 00:45:48.739
there's people on both sides that are hypocrites

00:45:48.739 --> 00:45:51.139
on this stuff. There are people on both sides

00:45:51.139 --> 00:45:53.400
that say they're pro -Second Amendment rights

00:45:53.400 --> 00:45:55.480
and they're against it. Dan Crenshaw, cough,

00:45:55.579 --> 00:45:57.360
cough. And there are people on the Democratic

00:45:57.360 --> 00:46:00.360
side that years ago... We're pro -Second Amendment

00:46:00.360 --> 00:46:01.860
that are now against, or even sometimes flip

00:46:01.860 --> 00:46:04.039
-flop and vice versa. So don't fall into the

00:46:04.039 --> 00:46:06.400
trap of assuming that all Republicans are pro

00:46:06.400 --> 00:46:07.900
-Second Amendment and all Democrats are against

00:46:07.900 --> 00:46:10.940
it. Yes, the parties as a whole are kind of in

00:46:10.940 --> 00:46:14.280
that area, but they've both done some stuff that

00:46:14.280 --> 00:46:17.019
really have hurt the Second Amendment and have

00:46:17.019 --> 00:46:19.940
been anti -farm, unfortunately, just due to political

00:46:19.940 --> 00:46:23.039
pressure. So just keep that in mind for political

00:46:23.039 --> 00:46:25.360
discussions, you know, just because at the end

00:46:25.360 --> 00:46:27.380
of the day, they're just saying shit to get reelected.

00:46:27.440 --> 00:46:30.230
I hate to say it, but... That's all more or less.

00:46:31.969 --> 00:46:33.849
Wait till they're not up for reelection and you'll

00:46:33.849 --> 00:46:35.550
find out who they really are. Yeah, no shit.

00:46:38.730 --> 00:46:44.889
Jesus. So like you brought up the, the politics

00:46:44.889 --> 00:46:48.230
of it all. A lot of that relies on statistics.

00:46:49.809 --> 00:46:57.170
We were able to find the stats for 2023. 58%.

00:46:57.960 --> 00:47:01.940
Of all gun -related deaths in 2023 were self

00:47:01.940 --> 00:47:08.920
-inflicted. That was about 27 ,300. So that's

00:47:08.920 --> 00:47:13.579
a lot. But they will use those numbers to say

00:47:13.579 --> 00:47:16.860
that that's gun violence. They won't tell you

00:47:16.860 --> 00:47:19.539
that that was self -harm. I was actually looking

00:47:19.539 --> 00:47:24.300
back through this up until the mid -2000s. And

00:47:24.300 --> 00:47:26.719
every single year, the vast majority is self

00:47:26.719 --> 00:47:29.699
-inflicted. It's self -offering. It's always

00:47:29.699 --> 00:47:33.820
over half. And what angers me about that is,

00:47:33.840 --> 00:47:37.159
number one, this is something that I know all

00:47:37.159 --> 00:47:40.340
of us kind of firemoners kind of do. Like, for

00:47:40.340 --> 00:47:44.920
example, when a buddy of mine, he lost a family

00:47:44.920 --> 00:47:46.780
member of his, and he was feeling really depressed.

00:47:46.940 --> 00:47:48.980
And I even spoke to him and was like, hey, if

00:47:48.980 --> 00:47:51.179
you need me to come over and help you out or

00:47:51.179 --> 00:47:54.880
if you need some stuff, I know some people that...

00:47:56.119 --> 00:47:58.119
You know have told me like hey, I'm going through

00:47:58.119 --> 00:48:01.539
a tough time I might need some mental help or

00:48:01.539 --> 00:48:03.139
something like that or made something Can you

00:48:03.139 --> 00:48:05.380
just hang on to mine for a few days or a week

00:48:05.380 --> 00:48:07.480
or something like that? I know for any of us

00:48:07.480 --> 00:48:09.480
in the firearm community That's like a 100 %

00:48:09.480 --> 00:48:11.300
like I would absolutely do that for anyone that

00:48:11.300 --> 00:48:14.760
I'm close with 100 % because we all no matter

00:48:14.760 --> 00:48:16.280
how that's kind of all those things no matter

00:48:16.280 --> 00:48:18.099
how tough you think you are Sometimes the shit

00:48:18.099 --> 00:48:21.280
hits the fan Every once in a while, you just

00:48:21.280 --> 00:48:22.579
need a helping hand for something like that.

00:48:22.679 --> 00:48:25.760
And it really sucks that suicides are so linked

00:48:25.760 --> 00:48:33.820
with that. But there's nothing you can do other

00:48:33.820 --> 00:48:36.719
than just be there to support people and try

00:48:36.719 --> 00:48:39.519
your best to make people aware of that and understand

00:48:39.519 --> 00:48:44.039
that it is a serious issue. But that's why you

00:48:44.039 --> 00:48:45.079
have to kind of have that community of people

00:48:45.079 --> 00:48:50.460
around you to support you. Yeah. So in that 27

00:48:50.460 --> 00:48:58.739
,300 stat, of those, 463 were accidental. So

00:48:58.739 --> 00:49:01.420
that would be people mishandling, people showing

00:49:01.420 --> 00:49:04.460
off like, oh, look at my dad's gun. And they,

00:49:04.599 --> 00:49:08.019
you know, kids trying to look cool. You know

00:49:08.019 --> 00:49:10.760
what my favorite video I ever saw was? The dumbest

00:49:10.760 --> 00:49:12.400
thing imaginable. There was a guy hunting with

00:49:12.400 --> 00:49:16.280
his kid. He wants to go underneath a fence. He

00:49:16.280 --> 00:49:18.900
goes underneath the fence first, grabs the barrel

00:49:18.900 --> 00:49:22.079
of it, and pulls it towards him. The trigger

00:49:22.079 --> 00:49:25.199
gets caught on a branch, shoots himself. Wow.

00:49:25.519 --> 00:49:28.559
It's stuff like that. There are many people that

00:49:28.559 --> 00:49:33.019
are just stupid. Or like there was an officer

00:49:33.019 --> 00:49:35.960
that was around where I was at that he was cleaning

00:49:35.960 --> 00:49:39.519
his firearm. He did not clear it. And so when

00:49:39.519 --> 00:49:40.960
he went to clean it, he ended up shooting out.

00:49:41.079 --> 00:49:43.019
I think he shot himself in the arm somewhere.

00:49:43.940 --> 00:49:45.460
And he ended up getting hospitalized and stuff

00:49:45.460 --> 00:49:46.659
like that, and they let him go from the force.

00:49:48.059 --> 00:49:54.119
But it's like, guys, it's simple stuff. It's

00:49:54.119 --> 00:49:57.119
always simple stuff. But to go back on those

00:49:57.119 --> 00:49:58.980
numbers, though, what that means is really they're

00:49:58.980 --> 00:50:03.440
adding in those numbers in with homicides to

00:50:03.440 --> 00:50:06.059
then boost up and try to say firearm ownership

00:50:06.059 --> 00:50:08.920
is even worse than it is. Yeah, because if you

00:50:08.920 --> 00:50:12.710
add in homicides with the self -inflicted. That's

00:50:12.710 --> 00:50:23.170
like 96%. So, yeah, 96 % of all deaths last year

00:50:23.170 --> 00:50:27.409
were all gun -related deaths were, you know,

00:50:27.409 --> 00:50:31.309
bad. Well, that sounds like a horrible stat.

00:50:32.949 --> 00:50:35.710
Well, they're not telling you that 58 % of those

00:50:35.710 --> 00:50:40.389
were self -inflicted. So, yeah. And it's crazy

00:50:40.389 --> 00:50:44.099
to think. that only 604 were due to law enforcement

00:50:44.099 --> 00:50:49.519
involvement. Out of a country of like 340, 350

00:50:49.519 --> 00:50:54.579
million people, only 604 are involved with police.

00:50:54.900 --> 00:50:57.599
That's actually an incredible statistic per capita.

00:50:58.400 --> 00:51:01.320
Yeah, you're more likely to win the lottery on

00:51:01.320 --> 00:51:03.260
the same day you got struck by lightning twice

00:51:03.260 --> 00:51:08.059
than you are to get shot by a cop. And especially,

00:51:08.280 --> 00:51:10.960
not for nothing, if you comply with lawful orders

00:51:10.960 --> 00:51:14.860
and understand how to speak with officers, things

00:51:14.860 --> 00:51:18.820
like that. Now, on that, let me just side segue.

00:51:19.400 --> 00:51:25.760
If you have any want or worry about the police

00:51:25.760 --> 00:51:28.500
officers in your town, for God's sake, record.

00:51:29.300 --> 00:51:33.880
Record, live stream, whatever. Just... Hold the

00:51:33.880 --> 00:51:36.880
police accountable if you have to. Do not be

00:51:36.880 --> 00:51:39.039
afraid to record because they are public servants.

00:51:39.420 --> 00:51:41.960
In all 50 states, you have the right to record

00:51:41.960 --> 00:51:44.579
police officers, especially during a traffic

00:51:44.579 --> 00:51:50.539
stop. Yeah. The best advice I've always had with

00:51:50.539 --> 00:51:52.219
that is absolutely record, but you don't have

00:51:52.219 --> 00:51:56.079
to be a dick about it. 100%. Be nice about it.

00:51:56.159 --> 00:52:00.059
Kill them with kindness. Yes. Maybe this is just

00:52:00.059 --> 00:52:02.349
my experience. But in the couple of times I've

00:52:02.349 --> 00:52:03.789
ever been pulled over, I've never had a ticket

00:52:03.789 --> 00:52:05.849
issue. I've never had a problem. It's always

00:52:05.849 --> 00:52:08.909
been set it off to record. Say, yes, sir. How

00:52:08.909 --> 00:52:10.909
are you doing? Yeah, no problem. Hey, I totally

00:52:10.909 --> 00:52:14.030
understand. I appreciate it. Thank you. If you

00:52:14.030 --> 00:52:17.050
start off on the positive, I'm not saying it'll

00:52:17.050 --> 00:52:19.090
work every time, but boy, does it work in your

00:52:19.090 --> 00:52:22.090
favor, especially how many people are causing

00:52:22.090 --> 00:52:23.750
problems. And they're like, hey, how are you

00:52:23.750 --> 00:52:25.769
doing? What's going on? What can I help you with?

00:52:26.530 --> 00:52:28.789
The couple of times I've been pulled over, the

00:52:28.789 --> 00:52:30.989
officers have been like, oh. yeah, you just,

00:52:31.030 --> 00:52:32.829
yeah, don't worry. I just need your license and

00:52:32.829 --> 00:52:34.429
registration. I'm like, okay, yeah, sure. No

00:52:34.429 --> 00:52:35.909
problem. They're like, oh yeah, you forgot to,

00:52:35.909 --> 00:52:38.250
you know, do an inspection in your car. You forgot

00:52:38.250 --> 00:52:39.789
to renew the registration. It's like, oh crap,

00:52:39.949 --> 00:52:42.590
I'm an idiot. I'll handle that. And everything's

00:52:42.590 --> 00:52:44.210
cool. And I tell them, oh yeah, I have a firearm

00:52:44.210 --> 00:52:46.010
in the car. Here's my license to carry. Here's

00:52:46.010 --> 00:52:48.269
this and that. And they're like, oh, okay, cool.

00:52:48.570 --> 00:52:50.690
As long as you follow whatever your state requires

00:52:50.690 --> 00:52:52.489
with that and just do it like a nice manner.

00:52:52.929 --> 00:52:55.809
But you being a dick to them, even if they're

00:52:55.809 --> 00:52:58.010
being an asshole, never works out in your favor.

00:52:58.869 --> 00:53:02.809
Never. So you must have gotten pulled over by

00:53:02.809 --> 00:53:06.909
local cops here in my glorious state. If you

00:53:06.909 --> 00:53:08.730
get stopped by the state highway patrol, you

00:53:08.730 --> 00:53:11.610
are getting a ticket. It does not matter. There

00:53:11.610 --> 00:53:14.309
are very, very few instances in which you will

00:53:14.309 --> 00:53:16.989
not get a ticket, but if the state is pull you

00:53:16.989 --> 00:53:19.889
over, you are getting a ticket. That is, that

00:53:19.889 --> 00:53:24.349
is just a matter of, of what it is. I never,

00:53:24.409 --> 00:53:26.650
this is something else I want to do on the police

00:53:26.650 --> 00:53:28.789
episode, but I feel like the tickets only hurt

00:53:28.789 --> 00:53:30.710
poor people. And that's why they shouldn't be.

00:53:30.789 --> 00:53:34.110
Oh, 100%. It should actually have to be. If the

00:53:34.110 --> 00:53:36.989
punishment for breaking the law is only a fine,

00:53:37.190 --> 00:53:41.110
then the crime or the law is only there to hurt

00:53:41.110 --> 00:53:43.010
the poor. That's why it should be community service

00:53:43.010 --> 00:53:46.389
hours. You want to see streets cleaned up and

00:53:46.389 --> 00:53:47.969
want to see roads rebuilt and want to see everything

00:53:47.969 --> 00:53:50.070
done? If you break the law, you got to do community

00:53:50.070 --> 00:53:52.909
service hours. You got to clean up stuff. That

00:53:52.909 --> 00:53:54.349
would actually solve problems because guess what?

00:53:54.550 --> 00:53:55.869
Inconvenience is people. No matter how rich or

00:53:55.869 --> 00:53:57.389
poor you are, we all got the same amount of time.

00:53:58.070 --> 00:54:00.960
You know? Yeah. But that's a rant for another

00:54:00.960 --> 00:54:05.519
time. But, no. I guess I've gotten lucky with

00:54:05.519 --> 00:54:07.219
that, but also, not for nothing, I drive like

00:54:07.219 --> 00:54:08.539
a grandma, so I never really get pulled over.

00:54:09.940 --> 00:54:14.480
Yeah, that'll do it, too. Yeah. But, anyways,

00:54:14.659 --> 00:54:16.760
with what we were going with that one, what I

00:54:16.760 --> 00:54:21.860
wanted to make people aware of is, in comparison

00:54:21.860 --> 00:54:26.750
to the U .S., London alone, in England, had 50

00:54:26.750 --> 00:54:29.710
,000 serious knife crimes recorded in one year.

00:54:30.610 --> 00:54:34.710
They are recorded at 17 .89 offenses per 10 ,000

00:54:34.710 --> 00:54:41.449
people or per capita. That is way, way, way more

00:54:41.449 --> 00:54:47.050
than America. America is at 13 .7 per 100 ,000

00:54:47.050 --> 00:54:49.690
people, and that's including the self -harm.

00:54:51.110 --> 00:54:54.510
If you cut that in half, you're talking about

00:54:54.510 --> 00:55:00.500
13 .7, per 200 000 whereas london is at 17 .89

00:55:00.500 --> 00:55:04.099
almost 18 out of every 10 000. that is insane

00:55:04.099 --> 00:55:08.000
and one of the things and that's knives knives

00:55:08.000 --> 00:55:10.960
but that's what i'm getting at is it's a violence

00:55:10.960 --> 00:55:13.039
problem and really at the end of the way it's

00:55:13.039 --> 00:55:15.820
a culture problem why london wasn't this way

00:55:15.820 --> 00:55:21.059
20 years ago i will let people make of that as

00:55:21.059 --> 00:55:22.460
what they want because that will be a separate

00:55:22.460 --> 00:55:24.619
episode on the problems of immigration and everything

00:55:24.619 --> 00:55:28.329
else but It is an issue to where anywhere that

00:55:28.329 --> 00:55:31.269
you have issues to where you're merging two very

00:55:31.269 --> 00:55:36.409
different cultures, every single time without

00:55:36.409 --> 00:55:40.630
fail, you have violence problems. Every time.

00:55:41.550 --> 00:55:43.570
Every single documented time in human history.

00:55:46.869 --> 00:55:49.730
People are more than welcome to try to show me

00:55:49.730 --> 00:55:52.530
something different, but I know I'm undefeated

00:55:52.530 --> 00:55:57.239
in this category. I know that for a fact. So,

00:55:57.320 --> 00:55:59.800
it's just one of those things where people need

00:55:59.800 --> 00:56:03.699
to understand that, sure, America can seem on

00:56:03.699 --> 00:56:06.539
the outside like we have an issue, but between,

00:56:06.699 --> 00:56:09.500
as you very much pointed out, the size of the

00:56:09.500 --> 00:56:12.820
country, the population, and if you look at it

00:56:12.820 --> 00:56:16.000
per capita or per 10 ,000 people, there are many

00:56:16.000 --> 00:56:18.760
countries that are vastly more violent than America.

00:56:19.059 --> 00:56:21.780
In fact, most of Europe, as long as you're not

00:56:21.780 --> 00:56:24.679
in the most rural of parts, They are equivalent

00:56:24.679 --> 00:56:27.079
or more violent. And what's crazy in America,

00:56:27.079 --> 00:56:30.940
if you take out self -harm with firearms, every

00:56:30.940 --> 00:56:33.019
single year it's been downtrending since like

00:56:33.019 --> 00:56:37.539
the early 2000s or late 90s. Yeah, one of those.

00:56:38.159 --> 00:56:43.239
Also, fun fact, if you take out the top 10 cities

00:56:43.239 --> 00:56:47.619
that also have the strictest gun control laws,

00:56:47.960 --> 00:56:53.420
then the stats drop tremendously. It's crazy.

00:56:53.480 --> 00:56:56.679
Which is a very odd correlation. The people that

00:56:56.679 --> 00:56:59.960
sit here and champion the laws fail to take into

00:56:59.960 --> 00:57:05.340
consideration. The people who are going to break

00:57:05.340 --> 00:57:08.059
the laws don't give a fuck about the laws to

00:57:08.059 --> 00:57:11.559
begin with. So the laws only hurt the people

00:57:11.559 --> 00:57:14.039
who will follow them in the first place, like

00:57:14.039 --> 00:57:19.000
you and I. A law is not going to make somebody

00:57:19.000 --> 00:57:22.210
stop what they're doing. in the middle of committing

00:57:22.210 --> 00:57:24.730
a crime and say, oh, this is against the law.

00:57:24.809 --> 00:57:29.769
I should probably stop this. No. No. I don't

00:57:29.769 --> 00:57:31.730
think ever once in human history has that ever

00:57:31.730 --> 00:57:36.489
happened. There was a famous quote by, it wasn't

00:57:36.489 --> 00:57:40.570
Nancy Pelosi. I wish I remember her name. But

00:57:40.570 --> 00:57:44.230
there was a senator in America that said this

00:57:44.230 --> 00:57:46.989
in the early 2000s of, oh, you know. When they

00:57:46.989 --> 00:57:49.349
realize it's illegal to carry a carry a firearm

00:57:49.349 --> 00:57:52.530
here, they will simply put it down and understand

00:57:52.530 --> 00:57:55.269
that it's against the law. And it's like, no,

00:57:55.409 --> 00:58:00.030
that's not how any of this works. The only reason

00:58:00.030 --> 00:58:03.650
Giffords was a Giffords. No, it was. She wasn't

00:58:03.650 --> 00:58:07.389
Gabby. No, she's she's out of. She's out of it

00:58:07.389 --> 00:58:09.590
now. I wish I remembered her name. I'll remember

00:58:09.590 --> 00:58:13.699
probably later on. She's another. She's not a

00:58:13.699 --> 00:58:15.659
person that I find it amazing anybody voted for

00:58:15.659 --> 00:58:18.019
her because of the IQ of a fucking walnut. I

00:58:18.019 --> 00:58:23.260
just, I don't know how. I don't understand. I'll

00:58:23.260 --> 00:58:27.340
remember her name at some point. But when somebody

00:58:27.340 --> 00:58:30.159
decides to break the law, they've made that decision.

00:58:30.599 --> 00:58:32.760
When somebody decides to carry a firearm illegally,

00:58:33.039 --> 00:58:34.840
commit a crime with it, do all these other things,

00:58:34.960 --> 00:58:37.599
the consequences of their actions have already

00:58:37.599 --> 00:58:40.480
kind of gone out the window. So by you making

00:58:40.480 --> 00:58:44.019
it illegal doesn't change anything. Put it this

00:58:44.019 --> 00:58:47.019
way. It's illegal to drink and drive and people

00:58:47.019 --> 00:58:49.500
do it a lot every day and people joke about it

00:58:49.500 --> 00:58:52.639
all the time. Yep. It's on one of those things

00:58:52.639 --> 00:58:54.780
where you can make it a law. It doesn't mean

00:58:54.780 --> 00:58:57.760
people will follow it. And inversely, the only

00:58:57.760 --> 00:58:59.280
laws that matter are the ones that are equally

00:58:59.280 --> 00:59:03.079
enforced. So take those into consideration. You

00:59:03.079 --> 00:59:05.260
will see that. Wow. There are many laws in this

00:59:05.260 --> 00:59:06.860
country that aren't really laws because they're

00:59:06.860 --> 00:59:08.619
never enforced. And there are some that are over

00:59:08.619 --> 00:59:13.900
enforced. Go figure that one out. Yeah. So if

00:59:13.900 --> 00:59:17.719
you want to kind of touch tips on the law aspect

00:59:17.719 --> 00:59:22.039
for just a second, if you really want to try

00:59:22.039 --> 00:59:25.639
and enforce gun laws and make it scary, then

00:59:25.639 --> 00:59:28.059
you have to really get harsh on the penalties.

00:59:28.639 --> 00:59:32.079
And I'm talking like judge dread level enforcement

00:59:32.079 --> 00:59:36.659
and penalties to go along with it. So if you

00:59:36.659 --> 00:59:40.199
commit a crime with a firearm, not necessarily,

00:59:40.360 --> 00:59:43.780
you know, you don't hurt anybody. Use it in the

00:59:43.780 --> 00:59:48.079
commission. Currently in Ohio, it's like three,

00:59:48.159 --> 00:59:51.179
five, seven years mandatory sentencing or something

00:59:51.179 --> 00:59:57.119
like that. Make it 25 and make it like solitary

00:59:57.119 --> 01:00:01.099
confinement. See, while I don't disagree with

01:00:01.099 --> 01:00:05.079
you, I feel like there's a better solution. Excuse

01:00:05.079 --> 01:00:08.599
me. Did you know? Hold on. I'm not done on my

01:00:08.599 --> 01:00:13.119
rant. If you actually hurt somebody with a firearm,

01:00:13.300 --> 01:00:21.739
then it's going to be hard labor. 25 years. And

01:00:21.739 --> 01:00:25.300
if you kill somebody, I'm sorry, but I'm pro

01:00:25.300 --> 01:00:28.619
-death penalty. So if you kill somebody, you

01:00:28.619 --> 01:00:32.480
get to be killed back. 30, 60, 90 days, sure.

01:00:32.880 --> 01:00:35.239
Let the legal appeals process go through. But

01:00:35.239 --> 01:00:38.099
if there's evidence, especially like good, solid

01:00:38.099 --> 01:00:41.059
video evidence, Which loops us back into the

01:00:41.059 --> 01:00:44.059
AI issues we've been talking about. That's going

01:00:44.059 --> 01:00:46.320
to be a whole big issue. I know. But if there's

01:00:46.320 --> 01:00:51.260
verifiable DNA video witness corroboration, yeah,

01:00:51.380 --> 01:00:55.199
you're toast. Well, I'm glad you touched on the

01:00:55.199 --> 01:00:56.679
work thing because I've always had the thought

01:00:56.679 --> 01:01:01.320
that it is kind of bullshit that we as taxpayers

01:01:01.320 --> 01:01:04.199
have to pay for the prison system anyway. So

01:01:04.199 --> 01:01:06.840
my thought would be, I think the greater deterrent

01:01:06.840 --> 01:01:13.239
would be. Imagine if you had to work off the

01:01:13.239 --> 01:01:15.960
entirety of what you owe to the state and to

01:01:15.960 --> 01:01:19.219
the victims and everybody else while in prison.

01:01:20.039 --> 01:01:24.420
So that way you are a net zero cost. That is

01:01:24.420 --> 01:01:26.760
at least what my understanding would be. To be

01:01:26.760 --> 01:01:29.820
the idea of, hey, if you caused this much damage

01:01:29.820 --> 01:01:32.639
and you did this, hey, if you don't want to use

01:01:32.639 --> 01:01:38.769
a firearm illegally in a crime, Then just don't

01:01:38.769 --> 01:01:40.610
do this. But if you do want to use that, great.

01:01:40.710 --> 01:01:42.469
Now you're going to be working for 10 years,

01:01:42.650 --> 01:01:45.190
repairing our roads, repairing our infrastructure,

01:01:45.469 --> 01:01:47.449
doing all these things that you don't want to

01:01:47.449 --> 01:01:51.550
do, at least to pay back your debt to society.

01:01:53.289 --> 01:01:56.130
I really think we should be using the prison

01:01:56.130 --> 01:01:58.610
system to bring some good out of it, to better

01:01:58.610 --> 01:02:00.289
everybody else, because we have to deal with

01:02:00.289 --> 01:02:02.269
this person. Not for nothing. If we're going

01:02:02.269 --> 01:02:04.429
to be paying into this person staying in prison,

01:02:05.000 --> 01:02:06.760
It's one thing to have a punishment, which I

01:02:06.760 --> 01:02:08.659
agree with, but also I think rehabilitation should

01:02:08.659 --> 01:02:10.079
come with it, and somebody should be allowed

01:02:10.079 --> 01:02:11.719
a chance as long as it's a nonviolent crime.

01:02:12.860 --> 01:02:15.400
Yes. If they hurt somebody. The prison system

01:02:15.400 --> 01:02:19.099
in and of itself needs a really thick overhaul.

01:02:19.820 --> 01:02:22.500
Oh, yeah. That one I kind of want to link with

01:02:22.500 --> 01:02:25.659
the police in prison one, and we have a whole

01:02:25.659 --> 01:02:27.480
bit. I'll jot that down. Yeah, that's something.

01:02:27.659 --> 01:02:30.980
I feel like that's an episode we should do. I've

01:02:30.980 --> 01:02:35.750
already been kind of looking into it, but. It's

01:02:35.750 --> 01:02:37.829
one of those cases to where I agree with you.

01:02:37.829 --> 01:02:40.130
Stiffer penalties all around. And by the way,

01:02:40.150 --> 01:02:42.269
running list. I know you can't see that running

01:02:42.269 --> 01:02:46.730
list. I trust you. It's analog. One of the problems

01:02:46.730 --> 01:02:48.570
we have in America, and this is for people in

01:02:48.570 --> 01:02:51.289
Europe to understand, is in many major cities,

01:02:51.489 --> 01:02:54.130
people will be arrested for a crime. Oh, bless

01:02:54.130 --> 01:02:56.710
you. People be arrested for a crime and then

01:02:56.710 --> 01:02:58.869
they'll just be let right back out. There are

01:02:58.869 --> 01:03:01.230
many judges that will say, oh, yeah, this person

01:03:01.230 --> 01:03:03.539
happens to be a minority. oh, they live a hard

01:03:03.539 --> 01:03:05.559
life. Their life sucks. We shouldn't put them

01:03:05.559 --> 01:03:08.320
in jail. And they'll let them back out. And then

01:03:08.320 --> 01:03:11.400
a lot of officers get very disenfranchised and

01:03:11.400 --> 01:03:14.039
very disinclined to be able to arrest these people.

01:03:14.260 --> 01:03:16.960
Because what's the point? There was a famous

01:03:16.960 --> 01:03:18.480
case in New York with a guy that got arrested

01:03:18.480 --> 01:03:22.460
30 or 40 times that kept robbing people, assaulting

01:03:22.460 --> 01:03:23.960
people, and the judge just kept letting him go.

01:03:24.260 --> 01:03:26.639
So at some point, it's like, it also has to do

01:03:26.639 --> 01:03:29.579
with the legal system we have here. The problem

01:03:29.579 --> 01:03:33.579
is we are a country, you know, that elects clowns

01:03:33.579 --> 01:03:37.199
that's run by lawyers and there's there's unfortunately

01:03:37.199 --> 01:03:39.820
there's no real just simple way to fix it so

01:03:39.820 --> 01:03:44.059
you know you're kind of stuck with this system

01:03:44.059 --> 01:03:48.579
where the judges can decide based on any sort

01:03:48.579 --> 01:03:50.900
of subjective idea whether somebody gets prosecuted

01:03:50.900 --> 01:03:53.500
or not and that's the inherent yeah i kind of

01:03:53.500 --> 01:03:55.360
have a problem with the judges having the amount

01:03:55.360 --> 01:03:57.920
of power that they do like i get that they need

01:03:57.920 --> 01:04:01.610
it in some areas but there are some I just don't

01:04:01.610 --> 01:04:05.190
think they should have all the say. That's why

01:04:05.190 --> 01:04:08.929
I think we would need to change the appeals process

01:04:08.929 --> 01:04:12.050
for a lot of that. And I really feel like judges

01:04:12.050 --> 01:04:14.409
should be able to lose their license to practice

01:04:14.409 --> 01:04:19.469
law if they have more than two or three overrulings

01:04:19.469 --> 01:04:22.570
on something like that. Well, let's just say

01:04:22.570 --> 01:04:24.250
if a judge makes a ruling and it goes up and

01:04:24.250 --> 01:04:26.489
then it gets overruled and appealed after by

01:04:26.489 --> 01:04:28.650
the second or third one. They're like, all right,

01:04:28.670 --> 01:04:30.329
let's go and review everything and see why you're

01:04:30.329 --> 01:04:31.849
coming to these decisions. And the minute they're

01:04:31.849 --> 01:04:33.250
saying, oh, yeah, you're biased because you're

01:04:33.250 --> 01:04:34.610
not prosecuting people because of the color of

01:04:34.610 --> 01:04:36.429
their skin or because of the background or orientation

01:04:36.429 --> 01:04:39.909
or whatever. You shouldn't be a judge. I'm sorry.

01:04:40.050 --> 01:04:42.309
And unfortunately, it's one of those things where

01:04:42.309 --> 01:04:44.289
there's a certain political party that's very

01:04:44.289 --> 01:04:47.690
much entrenched and drained in. cities and then

01:04:47.690 --> 01:04:50.610
so their ideologies gets pushed so therefore

01:04:50.610 --> 01:04:54.750
certain people get special treatment so aka many

01:04:54.750 --> 01:04:57.449
major cities are okay with racism because it

01:04:57.449 --> 01:05:00.670
pushes their agenda and it sucks and it's ridiculous

01:05:00.670 --> 01:05:04.429
should not be the case but i've said it once

01:05:04.429 --> 01:05:07.909
i'll say it again people suck yeah but you know

01:05:07.909 --> 01:05:11.469
if if that's something we could change that that

01:05:11.469 --> 01:05:14.590
would definitely help Because you've seen, you

01:05:14.590 --> 01:05:16.570
know, videos, stuff like that in California with

01:05:16.570 --> 01:05:19.130
Los Angeles and San Francisco and New York, all

01:05:19.130 --> 01:05:21.949
these places where there's people that commit

01:05:21.949 --> 01:05:23.630
many heinous crimes and they're just let go.

01:05:24.650 --> 01:05:27.630
Even when it comes to firearms, you know, armed

01:05:27.630 --> 01:05:29.369
robberies and stuff like that, even murders.

01:05:31.030 --> 01:05:33.030
Or the other problem is, too, they get so overloaded

01:05:33.030 --> 01:05:36.630
that by the time they schedule to have the case

01:05:36.630 --> 01:05:38.829
done, it might be six months or a year down the

01:05:38.829 --> 01:05:47.949
road. Just saying. It's a crazy system that if

01:05:47.949 --> 01:05:49.610
we could kind of clean it up, it would help it

01:05:49.610 --> 01:05:52.489
out a lot. But to reinforce the original point

01:05:52.489 --> 01:05:55.010
for this, not for nothing Europe, but don't go

01:05:55.010 --> 01:05:56.429
throwing stones in a glass house if we're talking

01:05:56.429 --> 01:05:59.269
about America having violence problems. When

01:05:59.269 --> 01:06:01.690
y 'all have friggin' no -go zones because of

01:06:01.690 --> 01:06:03.690
the immigrants that you brought over there, where

01:06:03.690 --> 01:06:05.829
you can't even allow police or women to walk

01:06:05.829 --> 01:06:11.800
through. You know, be careful. That's all I'm

01:06:11.800 --> 01:06:13.260
saying. Oh, and don't even get me started on

01:06:13.260 --> 01:06:15.920
the whole issue of there are whole countries

01:06:15.920 --> 01:06:18.699
that have sections that are cordoned off for

01:06:18.699 --> 01:06:22.980
the religious -only police. Did you know in England

01:06:22.980 --> 01:06:24.920
it's gotten so bad that they're actually arresting

01:06:24.920 --> 01:06:27.539
people for saying that they were praying inside

01:06:27.539 --> 01:06:30.280
their heads near a mosque? Because, and I quote,

01:06:30.380 --> 01:06:32.239
if a Christian's praying near a mosque, that

01:06:32.239 --> 01:06:36.780
is very anti -Muslim of them. Man, I could have

01:06:36.780 --> 01:06:38.519
sworn there was a book about that or something.

01:06:39.449 --> 01:06:42.530
Something about the 80s, maybe? You know, I...

01:06:42.530 --> 01:06:49.590
Nah, nah, nah. This is such a new thing. No one

01:06:49.590 --> 01:06:51.769
could have ever thought about this before. I

01:06:51.769 --> 01:06:54.909
mean, I just... No, nothing like 1984, maybe.

01:06:55.210 --> 01:07:02.030
No, no, no. No, that's probably like a... Like

01:07:02.030 --> 01:07:03.869
a music album or something like that. That's

01:07:03.869 --> 01:07:07.670
not a... Gotta be. That's not a book. No way.

01:07:08.050 --> 01:07:12.659
No. But on a more serious note, read dystopian

01:07:12.659 --> 01:07:17.159
novels. You will find that we are in the dystopia.

01:07:17.440 --> 01:07:22.340
We are there. That is where we live in. 1984,

01:07:22.760 --> 01:07:27.179
Fahrenheit 451. Absolutely. Those, Animal Farm,

01:07:27.239 --> 01:07:30.840
and a few other ones that definitely... Definitely...

01:07:30.840 --> 01:07:33.500
Soylent Green. Oh, Jesus. We're getting there,

01:07:33.599 --> 01:07:35.980
unfortunately. I don't like it, but we're getting

01:07:35.980 --> 01:07:39.530
there. We gotta find the chart. Because we're

01:07:39.530 --> 01:07:40.989
close. I don't want to find the chart. That's

01:07:40.989 --> 01:07:48.429
the problem. Well, the stats were all I had in

01:07:48.429 --> 01:07:50.329
the notes. That was the last part that I had,

01:07:50.429 --> 01:07:55.570
so. Okay, yeah. I mean, thankfully we've kind

01:07:55.570 --> 01:07:57.050
of covered, I believe, everything that we wanted

01:07:57.050 --> 01:07:59.050
to talk about with that one for the most part.

01:08:02.269 --> 01:08:05.690
I mean, at least I would say in my perspective.

01:08:06.599 --> 01:08:09.920
to kind of sum up a lot of this it is nice to

01:08:09.920 --> 01:08:12.239
have the ability and the right to carry when

01:08:12.239 --> 01:08:15.880
i feel like i need to and at the end of the day

01:08:15.880 --> 01:08:18.479
it is up to my judgment and i will be honest

01:08:18.479 --> 01:08:21.060
there's many days where i don't carry if i'm

01:08:21.060 --> 01:08:23.159
just hanging out my local area where i know things

01:08:23.159 --> 01:08:26.159
are super safe and nothing happens there's many

01:08:26.159 --> 01:08:29.680
times where i don't carry but there are many

01:08:29.680 --> 01:08:31.479
days where i'm like you know what i'm going somewhere

01:08:31.479 --> 01:08:33.260
that might be a little sketch i will happily

01:08:34.279 --> 01:08:36.340
you know keep that in the glove box keep that

01:08:36.340 --> 01:08:40.039
on me and you know just in case but it's not

01:08:40.039 --> 01:08:43.880
like i think a lot of a lot of europeans assume

01:08:43.880 --> 01:08:46.239
that we're this caricature of americans that

01:08:46.239 --> 01:08:51.159
have you know uh i can't use this quote uh because

01:08:51.159 --> 01:08:53.500
it's not appropriate but it's like we're holding

01:08:53.500 --> 01:08:55.520
two rifles shooting up in the air just being

01:08:55.520 --> 01:08:58.239
willy -nilly you know like like what's his name

01:08:58.239 --> 01:09:00.560
that the old character cartoon character yeah

01:09:00.560 --> 01:09:06.479
yeah like Sam. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. That's not,

01:09:06.520 --> 01:09:08.539
that's not most of us. That's not even like,

01:09:08.600 --> 01:09:12.140
that's barely any of us. Or, or, or the, the

01:09:12.140 --> 01:09:14.420
picture of the American breakfast with the pile

01:09:14.420 --> 01:09:17.279
of bacon and, and the pistol sitting next to

01:09:17.279 --> 01:09:20.359
your, your plate and all that stuff, or, or using

01:09:20.359 --> 01:09:23.600
the pistols to eat your breakfast. No, no. My,

01:09:23.680 --> 01:09:26.619
my pistol does not have a spoon attachment underneath

01:09:26.619 --> 01:09:28.399
where the bat with a mag light is. It's just

01:09:28.399 --> 01:09:32.130
not now, but. It's one of those things where

01:09:32.130 --> 01:09:34.189
it's easy to make fun of American culture because

01:09:34.189 --> 01:09:37.470
it's so prevalent The reality of it is most firearm

01:09:37.470 --> 01:09:39.569
owners, but people got to realize they carry

01:09:39.569 --> 01:09:42.729
concealed. You'll never know Yeah, that's part

01:09:42.729 --> 01:09:45.590
of the deterrent and part of why we have concealed

01:09:45.590 --> 01:09:49.109
carry is the idea that you will never know who

01:09:49.109 --> 01:09:51.250
around you can handle business and who can't

01:09:51.250 --> 01:09:54.890
and Are you willing to take that risk? To start

01:09:54.890 --> 01:09:57.649
some shit and I will tell you in Texas that answer

01:09:57.649 --> 01:10:00.920
is always fuck. No I will tell you right now.

01:10:01.920 --> 01:10:05.819
Texas is the land to fuck around and find out.

01:10:08.699 --> 01:10:11.840
No, don't do it. It's a no. That should be their

01:10:11.840 --> 01:10:16.119
new state motto. Honestly, if Texas wasn't overrun

01:10:16.119 --> 01:10:18.279
with a bunch of wimpy judges that don't allow

01:10:18.279 --> 01:10:20.500
them to actually enforce the law, absolutely.

01:10:22.060 --> 01:10:23.539
But unfortunately, they're not allowed to enforce

01:10:23.539 --> 01:10:27.369
the law lately. Yeah. And I would agree with

01:10:27.369 --> 01:10:29.949
those side jet. It's the South. Yeah, absolutely.

01:10:31.149 --> 01:10:33.770
In general, yeah. And it should be, rightfully

01:10:33.770 --> 01:10:35.970
so. Because, again, what's the point of having

01:10:35.970 --> 01:10:37.529
a law if you don't enforce it? Then it's not

01:10:37.529 --> 01:10:45.350
a law. You know? So, I mean, that's just my two

01:10:45.350 --> 01:10:50.770
cents on that. Ooh, actually, a little thing

01:10:50.770 --> 01:10:52.350
if you want to talk about with firearm stuff,

01:10:52.449 --> 01:10:55.810
because I was very curious in your opinion. What's

01:10:55.810 --> 01:10:58.109
your opinion on the whole assault weapons, assault

01:10:58.109 --> 01:11:06.449
rifles? It's a made -up term. Attaboy. There

01:11:06.449 --> 01:11:13.210
you go. There are fully automatic firearms like

01:11:13.210 --> 01:11:17.770
the military use. There are semi -automatic like

01:11:17.770 --> 01:11:22.170
most civilians have. There's no such thing as

01:11:22.170 --> 01:11:27.579
a... Fully semi -automatic clip -loaded revolver.

01:11:28.439 --> 01:11:33.859
What would we say, 30 round clips and... Yeah,

01:11:33.899 --> 01:11:38.880
a 30 round clip mag, I think. Some of the politicians

01:11:38.880 --> 01:11:42.020
that really try to spice up what they're talking

01:11:42.020 --> 01:11:44.720
about don't know enough about what they're talking

01:11:44.720 --> 01:11:46.840
about to actually get the point across. They

01:11:46.840 --> 01:11:51.100
use all the words sandwiched together to make

01:11:51.100 --> 01:11:54.460
the most... Incomprehensible nonsense imaginable.

01:11:55.659 --> 01:11:57.840
It's hilarious to listen to. One of my favorite

01:11:57.840 --> 01:12:00.180
videos I saw, did you watch under the Obama administration

01:12:00.180 --> 01:12:03.600
when they asked the director of the ETF to disassemble

01:12:03.600 --> 01:12:06.500
a firearm and you had no idea how to do it? Oh,

01:12:06.520 --> 01:12:11.439
God, yes. I was screaming at the TV that day.

01:12:11.539 --> 01:12:13.399
So one of the things I wanted to bring up to

01:12:13.399 --> 01:12:16.739
the Europeans and to other non -Americans is

01:12:16.739 --> 01:12:20.460
that in America, we are in... incredibly inflated

01:12:20.460 --> 01:12:23.539
system of bureaucracy where the etf or the the

01:12:23.539 --> 01:12:25.680
division of the alcohol tobacco and firearms

01:12:25.680 --> 01:12:28.380
atf is really what is supposed to be the law

01:12:28.380 --> 01:12:31.640
enforcement branch when it comes to firearms

01:12:31.640 --> 01:12:34.760
not legislate laws which we're going to talk

01:12:34.760 --> 01:12:36.439
about in a second but they're supposed to enforce

01:12:36.439 --> 01:12:40.520
them now You would think. You would think that'd

01:12:40.520 --> 01:12:42.899
be a kick -ass agency to work for, too. You would

01:12:42.899 --> 01:12:45.279
think you'd be. The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco,

01:12:45.279 --> 01:12:47.319
and Firearms. The agency of, I'm going to have

01:12:47.319 --> 01:12:50.840
a great fucking weekend every goddamn week. But

01:12:50.840 --> 01:12:54.319
no, you would think you'd hire people that are

01:12:54.319 --> 01:12:58.000
knowledgeable in firearms to head up the ATF.

01:12:58.239 --> 01:13:02.260
You'd think you'd be busting drug rings and gangs

01:13:02.260 --> 01:13:05.720
and all these other things. No. How do I know

01:13:05.720 --> 01:13:08.890
this? because the director of the ATF, on more

01:13:08.890 --> 01:13:10.649
than one occasion with more than one different

01:13:10.649 --> 01:13:13.010
director, had no idea how to handle one of the

01:13:13.010 --> 01:13:14.970
most ubiquitous of common firearms in American

01:13:14.970 --> 01:13:18.029
history. And not just one, but also several rifles

01:13:18.029 --> 01:13:22.369
and pistols and even shotguns. So, part of one

01:13:22.369 --> 01:13:25.489
of my problems we have in this government, and

01:13:25.489 --> 01:13:28.149
really in America, is you might say, oh wow,

01:13:28.250 --> 01:13:30.510
American laws are weird. And my response is,

01:13:30.590 --> 01:13:33.270
yeah, the people enforcing them don't know shit.

01:13:34.060 --> 01:13:36.300
That that's like that's like imagine if there

01:13:36.300 --> 01:13:39.520
was an office about let's just say makeup and

01:13:39.520 --> 01:13:43.159
They put me in charge of enforcing that I will

01:13:43.159 --> 01:13:45.800
tell you right now. I don't know shit about makeup

01:13:45.800 --> 01:13:51.479
I I couldn't enforce fuck all But why would you

01:13:51.479 --> 01:13:53.380
put somebody that knows fuck all about firearms

01:13:53.380 --> 01:13:57.039
There's the head of the ATF that makes no sense

01:13:57.039 --> 01:13:58.899
unless he's doing a lot of drugs Maybe sure might

01:13:58.899 --> 01:14:01.220
know, you know alcohol or something like that.

01:14:01.279 --> 01:14:03.649
I might know drugs with the DEA but you know

01:14:03.649 --> 01:14:06.149
if maybe he smokes a lot of tobacco i don't know

01:14:06.149 --> 01:14:09.289
maybe he's one for three but doesn't really seem

01:14:09.289 --> 01:14:11.989
to help if he doesn't know anything about firearms

01:14:11.989 --> 01:14:15.050
but to be enforcing firearm law the second part

01:14:15.050 --> 01:14:18.270
of the problem is the atf is allowed somehow

01:14:18.270 --> 01:14:21.390
to interpret the law in whatever way they want

01:14:21.390 --> 01:14:24.029
and then enforce it and then make their own laws

01:14:24.029 --> 01:14:26.170
yes they make their own laws by saying oh yeah

01:14:26.170 --> 01:14:28.250
this is the law that you pass but we actually

01:14:28.250 --> 01:14:30.909
want to interpret like this and this is how we

01:14:30.909 --> 01:14:33.359
will enforce it so there are things you can do

01:14:33.359 --> 01:14:35.460
in your firearms that per the letter of the law

01:14:35.460 --> 01:14:41.300
are legal but the atf will put you in jail there

01:14:41.300 --> 01:14:42.939
are things you can do per letter of the law that

01:14:42.939 --> 01:14:46.899
are not illegal but the atf will say that's close

01:14:46.899 --> 01:14:49.960
enough and put you in jail but there are also

01:14:49.960 --> 01:14:52.680
things where you can suggest that might sort

01:14:52.680 --> 01:14:56.079
of maybe almost could be possibly illegal and

01:14:56.079 --> 01:14:58.239
the atf will say you're in jail for 50 years

01:14:58.239 --> 01:15:01.640
go yourself There was a guy, there's a guy that's

01:15:01.640 --> 01:15:08.020
in jail right now for making a 80 % to scale

01:15:08.020 --> 01:15:11.420
auto sear out of plastic that was on a credit

01:15:11.420 --> 01:15:14.779
card as a joke. I don't know if you know about

01:15:14.779 --> 01:15:21.079
this case. I do not. Okay. This is one of the

01:15:21.079 --> 01:15:23.340
scams that happened last year, and it's fucking

01:15:23.340 --> 01:15:25.739
ridiculous. For those people at home that don't

01:15:25.739 --> 01:15:28.310
know what an auto sear is, it's... To sum it

01:15:28.310 --> 01:15:32.270
up very, very easily, it is a way to make a firearm

01:15:32.270 --> 01:15:34.829
function in a way that's not supposed to. In

01:15:34.829 --> 01:15:38.170
a more of a fully automatic way. Turns from one

01:15:38.170 --> 01:15:40.409
pull of the trigger, from one bullet to one pull

01:15:40.409 --> 01:15:42.729
of the trigger in many. Essentially, to put it

01:15:42.729 --> 01:15:45.489
really, really simple. I know I'm butchering

01:15:45.489 --> 01:15:49.489
it, but keeping it simple. That is illegal to

01:15:49.489 --> 01:15:51.529
have the ability to transform that function if

01:15:51.529 --> 01:15:54.010
that firearm's not registered to do so. And if

01:15:54.010 --> 01:15:55.810
you're not also registered to own or have or

01:15:55.810 --> 01:15:59.170
operate that. Well, side note, it's also inherently

01:15:59.170 --> 01:16:01.609
dangerous because the firearms are designed for

01:16:01.609 --> 01:16:04.170
that. Exactly. The tolerances are very different

01:16:04.170 --> 01:16:06.109
for firearms that are designed for actual fully

01:16:06.109 --> 01:16:12.210
automatic fire. Well, as a joke, this guy made

01:16:12.210 --> 01:16:16.729
a, basically a credit card and he made an auto

01:16:16.729 --> 01:16:18.750
sear. That's like a punch out diagram where you

01:16:18.750 --> 01:16:21.029
could like push out, but it's at 80 % of the

01:16:21.029 --> 01:16:23.489
scale. So it will never work. It was part of

01:16:23.489 --> 01:16:28.369
the joke. Make fun of the ETF. They said he had

01:16:28.369 --> 01:16:35.489
the intent to make illegal firearm, I guess you

01:16:35.489 --> 01:16:38.149
could call firearm products, something like that,

01:16:38.170 --> 01:16:41.409
firearm adapters or whatever. Accessory. Accessory,

01:16:41.409 --> 01:16:44.409
that's the word. And he's in jail. He was a YouTuber.

01:16:46.029 --> 01:16:48.149
He did YouTube and everything. I watched the

01:16:48.149 --> 01:16:50.010
whole thing with his wife doing the live streams

01:16:50.010 --> 01:16:51.329
and stuff like that and them explaining everything

01:16:51.329 --> 01:16:53.189
that happened. Remember when he put them on for

01:16:53.189 --> 01:16:57.380
sale? He is in jail for decades. For a joke.

01:16:58.819 --> 01:17:01.560
What firearm was he trying to modify? I believe

01:17:01.560 --> 01:17:05.899
it was an AR platform. Can they successfully

01:17:05.899 --> 01:17:07.720
complete the modification with the product he

01:17:07.720 --> 01:17:11.300
had? Why is he in jail? Because it was the intent.

01:17:14.000 --> 01:17:17.640
Oh, so like the intent of deleting a server full

01:17:17.640 --> 01:17:22.840
of emails? But it's Hillary, so it's different.

01:17:24.520 --> 01:17:29.340
Gotcha. it's stuff like that to where imagine

01:17:29.340 --> 01:17:31.760
if you made a product to make fun of someone

01:17:31.760 --> 01:17:34.659
and they said, Oh, but that product could have

01:17:34.659 --> 01:17:36.939
the intent of hurting people. You go to jail.

01:17:38.960 --> 01:17:42.359
So on, on that, on that premise there, let me

01:17:42.359 --> 01:17:46.119
ask you for many years, they've had the phrase

01:17:46.119 --> 01:17:51.579
ghost gun. The files are out there, or if you're

01:17:51.579 --> 01:17:57.039
just very, very handy, you can, use 3d software

01:17:57.039 --> 01:18:01.079
does that mean does that mean that my 3d printer

01:18:01.079 --> 01:18:06.640
should be registered as a firearm because that's

01:18:06.640 --> 01:18:09.079
the argument that some people are having oh i

01:18:09.079 --> 01:18:10.920
thought yeah i actually remember hearing about

01:18:10.920 --> 01:18:15.140
that uh first of all that's dumb uh second of

01:18:15.140 --> 01:18:16.920
all you will never stop people from able to being

01:18:16.920 --> 01:18:19.380
able to commit crimes and do stuff third of all

01:18:19.380 --> 01:18:22.060
just because something no if if you look at the

01:18:22.060 --> 01:18:27.229
plethora of street confiscated weapons that are

01:18:27.229 --> 01:18:30.970
classified as firearms because they can discharge

01:18:30.970 --> 01:18:39.130
a round of ammunition probably once. It's scary

01:18:39.130 --> 01:18:41.670
the level of ingenuity some of these people on

01:18:41.670 --> 01:18:44.529
the streets have. People forget they were making

01:18:44.529 --> 01:18:47.989
firearms long before CNC machines. We've been

01:18:47.989 --> 01:18:50.529
making firearms for hundreds of years. There

01:18:50.529 --> 01:18:53.270
are entire books. dedicated for you how to how

01:18:53.270 --> 01:18:55.810
to legally make firearms in your house this is

01:18:55.810 --> 01:18:57.630
not uncommon knowledge this is something we've

01:18:57.630 --> 01:18:59.529
been doing for hundreds of years and something

01:18:59.529 --> 01:19:01.529
probably going to continue to keep doing the

01:19:01.529 --> 01:19:05.689
thing is 99 .99 of all hobbyists want to do that

01:19:05.689 --> 01:19:08.270
just because it's fucking cool not because they

01:19:08.270 --> 01:19:10.750
want to hurt anybody because guess what no 3d

01:19:10.750 --> 01:19:12.989
gun can you print is it going to be any good

01:19:12.989 --> 01:19:15.670
at least right now it's not going to be able

01:19:15.670 --> 01:19:18.369
to it might be one two shots after at some point

01:19:18.369 --> 01:19:20.590
it's going to blow apart it's going to be a fucking

01:19:20.590 --> 01:19:24.069
grenade Congratulations. You 3D printed your

01:19:24.069 --> 01:19:26.689
own personal Claymore, and you have no consent

01:19:26.689 --> 01:19:32.149
over when it goes off. Congratulations. You basically

01:19:32.149 --> 01:19:34.149
just win the Darwin Award with a ticking time

01:19:34.149 --> 01:19:38.630
bomb. But again, it's the case of because somebody

01:19:38.630 --> 01:19:41.189
could commit a crime, doesn't mean you should

01:19:41.189 --> 01:19:44.489
go after them. But that's their argument, which

01:19:44.489 --> 01:19:50.069
I think is insane. Right. I don't know. Yeah,

01:19:50.090 --> 01:19:52.170
3D print yourself a Roomba Claymore. Hell yeah.

01:19:52.289 --> 01:19:56.310
Oh, don't tell me. But, you know, it's one of

01:19:56.310 --> 01:19:59.649
those things where, like, they got to understand

01:19:59.649 --> 01:20:02.350
with 3D printing, eventually there's going to

01:20:02.350 --> 01:20:04.250
come a scenario, which is like in Star Trek,

01:20:04.390 --> 01:20:06.390
where you can just print something that's going

01:20:06.390 --> 01:20:08.670
to be a weapon, no matter what it is. You can

01:20:08.670 --> 01:20:10.369
always hijack the system. You can always change

01:20:10.369 --> 01:20:14.770
stuff around. You know, the only reason I really

01:20:14.770 --> 01:20:17.470
think they would have to regulate that would

01:20:17.470 --> 01:20:21.569
be if... you had like steel printers that became

01:20:21.569 --> 01:20:24.369
so cheap that gangs could buy them and build

01:20:24.369 --> 01:20:27.210
hundreds at a time. It's like, all right, I would

01:20:27.210 --> 01:20:29.750
understand having to like be more careful with

01:20:29.750 --> 01:20:33.090
it. But at the end of the day, that's not what's

01:20:33.090 --> 01:20:37.630
happening. Yeah. So there are a few that are

01:20:37.630 --> 01:20:40.109
out there. They're, they're like tabletop models.

01:20:41.289 --> 01:20:44.449
They're, they're centering type print printers.

01:20:46.170 --> 01:20:50.659
They're, They're low enough cost that if a group

01:20:50.659 --> 01:20:54.800
of people had the resources and the knowledge,

01:20:55.119 --> 01:20:59.680
they could really do it. Well, then that's also

01:20:59.680 --> 01:21:04.000
like the ATF's job to like find the people that

01:21:04.000 --> 01:21:06.220
are making them and deal with that on a case

01:21:06.220 --> 01:21:09.239
by case. But these are industrial machines that

01:21:09.239 --> 01:21:14.899
are used to make auto parts. And, you know, machinist

01:21:14.899 --> 01:21:18.279
shop type equipment. Yeah, but you can make a

01:21:18.279 --> 01:21:21.159
firearm out of a pipe and like a couple of tools

01:21:21.159 --> 01:21:25.319
like not for nothing. I know. That's never going

01:21:25.319 --> 01:21:28.880
to change. Even with sophisticated. It's going

01:21:28.880 --> 01:21:30.720
to be one of those things until you can literally

01:21:30.720 --> 01:21:34.979
3D print out of metal. A firearm that works out

01:21:34.979 --> 01:21:37.359
of the box. It's there's nothing you can do.

01:21:37.819 --> 01:21:40.359
And even then it becomes a question of how effective

01:21:40.359 --> 01:21:45.310
will it be? Yeah. You know, because again. People

01:21:45.310 --> 01:21:48.270
don't understand. I mean, if it works once, that's

01:21:48.270 --> 01:21:52.609
all it has to work in some scenarios. True. But

01:21:52.609 --> 01:21:53.930
you know, no one's going to make money selling

01:21:53.930 --> 01:22:01.869
those. I think you'd be surprised. Maybe. I don't

01:22:01.869 --> 01:22:05.090
know. I just... Also, think about this. Those

01:22:05.090 --> 01:22:09.989
stupid turn -in programs. What do you mean? Turn

01:22:09.989 --> 01:22:12.270
in your guns and we'll give you a $100 gift card

01:22:12.270 --> 01:22:13.729
or whatever. Oh, the buybacks? Oh, I hate those.

01:22:14.029 --> 01:22:21.109
Yes. Okay. Could you, in theory, 3D print a bunch

01:22:21.109 --> 01:22:24.170
of bullshit and turn all that in? People have

01:22:24.170 --> 01:22:29.010
done that. You don't understand. Oh, that's glorious.

01:22:29.250 --> 01:22:32.050
You know what someone did, which was crazy? So

01:22:32.050 --> 01:22:34.569
California at one point, I thought it was in

01:22:34.569 --> 01:22:37.869
LA. They were doing a gun buyback. Well, somebody

01:22:37.869 --> 01:22:40.420
went around. buying a bunch of this was like

01:22:40.420 --> 01:22:42.340
20 years ago you know how the cheap revolver

01:22:42.340 --> 01:22:45.039
22 revolvers used to be like 50 bucks yes they

01:22:45.039 --> 01:22:47.319
bought boxes yes and got 100 bucks each for them

01:22:47.319 --> 01:22:50.039
he doubled his money being like fuck you you

01:22:50.039 --> 01:22:51.960
want to buy them all back brilliant there we

01:22:51.960 --> 01:22:56.039
go so the police lost money and now they have

01:22:56.039 --> 01:23:00.039
a bunch of 22 revolvers that's brilliant defund

01:23:00.039 --> 01:23:01.760
the police that's a hilarious way to do it i'm

01:23:01.760 --> 01:23:06.279
just saying that's kind of funny but i i've never

01:23:06.279 --> 01:23:08.399
been for buybacks because then the problem is

01:23:08.859 --> 01:23:11.000
Now you have firearms in the hands of officers

01:23:11.000 --> 01:23:14.119
where you don't know where they end up Because

01:23:14.119 --> 01:23:16.579
not to not trust police but there's also been

01:23:16.579 --> 01:23:19.079
many many cases of those firearms disappearing

01:23:19.079 --> 01:23:20.800
that's somehow ending in the hands of officers

01:23:20.800 --> 01:23:23.960
personally and their personal safes and There's

01:23:23.960 --> 01:23:25.680
no way of ensuring they won't end up somewhere

01:23:25.680 --> 01:23:29.409
in the government So not for nothing I think

01:23:29.409 --> 01:23:32.829
it's insane. Oh, by the way, Oside, so he commented

01:23:32.829 --> 01:23:34.649
in the chat, I remember someone that set up a

01:23:34.649 --> 01:23:36.329
stand near one of those to buybacks to buy back

01:23:36.329 --> 01:23:39.310
the gun at a better price. That was Brandon Herrera.

01:23:39.609 --> 01:23:42.310
And he is my fucking idol for some of that shit.

01:23:42.470 --> 01:23:44.189
There's a reason why they call him AK Jesus.

01:23:45.170 --> 01:23:48.949
So what he did, which is absolutely brilliant,

01:23:49.149 --> 01:23:51.229
was told people, hey, if you're going to be just

01:23:51.229 --> 01:23:53.369
giving this firearm to the police, I will buy

01:23:53.369 --> 01:23:55.890
them from you at a better price. And he got amazing

01:23:55.890 --> 01:23:58.159
deals on stuff. Unfortunately, there were a couple

01:23:58.159 --> 01:24:01.100
of them that were total pricks that on principle

01:24:01.100 --> 01:24:02.579
wouldn't sell it to him. They're like, oh, you

01:24:02.579 --> 01:24:04.239
like firearms? I purposely won't sell this to

01:24:04.239 --> 01:24:07.239
you. It's like, all right, cool. You are the

01:24:07.239 --> 01:24:10.060
least cool person at the table. Wow. You're the

01:24:10.060 --> 01:24:13.359
uncle that nobody loves. I'm sorry. I especially

01:24:13.359 --> 01:24:16.539
like those people who turn in their firearms

01:24:16.539 --> 01:24:19.579
from their home so they can help prevent gun

01:24:19.579 --> 01:24:22.039
violence. It's like, were you going to commit

01:24:22.039 --> 01:24:25.989
a crime? Then you're not doing anything. you

01:24:25.989 --> 01:24:27.869
are keeping it off the streets congratulations

01:24:27.869 --> 01:24:31.270
because guess what obama did operation fast and

01:24:31.270 --> 01:24:32.930
furious where he gave all these drug cartels

01:24:32.930 --> 01:24:34.649
all these firearms that we had confiscated from

01:24:34.649 --> 01:24:37.369
civilians and we had bought we talked about yeah

01:24:37.369 --> 01:24:39.710
the people don't realize you you're giving more

01:24:39.710 --> 01:24:41.569
guns to the government does not mean anything's

01:24:41.569 --> 01:24:43.090
gonna be safer because they might just give them

01:24:43.090 --> 01:24:47.529
to drug cartels yeah which uh like you were saying

01:24:47.529 --> 01:24:50.510
the the the guns that get turned in at buybacks

01:24:51.400 --> 01:24:53.520
If they're not logged properly, who's to say

01:24:53.520 --> 01:24:55.840
that that's not going to be a drop pistol for

01:24:55.840 --> 01:24:58.779
a bad situation for a cop, a dirty cop. It's

01:24:58.779 --> 01:25:01.039
been known to happen. So one of the problems

01:25:01.039 --> 01:25:03.579
I have, I can't reveal too much information here,

01:25:03.619 --> 01:25:06.579
but I knew an officer who was basically responsible

01:25:06.579 --> 01:25:09.500
in a town for all the firearms that were collected.

01:25:09.920 --> 01:25:12.060
He would then take them. He would, you know,

01:25:12.060 --> 01:25:13.760
take all the information off them and go and

01:25:13.760 --> 01:25:16.479
basically weapons test them to make sure they

01:25:16.479 --> 01:25:17.760
were functioning, make sure they were whatever.

01:25:18.510 --> 01:25:20.029
The dude would have 100 plus firearms at his

01:25:20.029 --> 01:25:21.609
house at any one time, which is no big deal.

01:25:21.869 --> 01:25:25.550
But 70 of those weren't ones that he owned. They'd

01:25:25.550 --> 01:25:27.170
be ones from lockup. They'd be from the police

01:25:27.170 --> 01:25:29.949
department. And cool that he was testing and

01:25:29.949 --> 01:25:32.470
checking them. But my problem is, if you had

01:25:32.470 --> 01:25:35.430
a house that's revolving a couple hundred firearms

01:25:35.430 --> 01:25:38.409
every few months, it's so easy to let them slip

01:25:38.409 --> 01:25:39.949
through the cracks. Especially if that person,

01:25:39.989 --> 01:25:41.289
if you know, is getting arrested and they're

01:25:41.289 --> 01:25:44.210
gone, they forfeited that property. That property

01:25:44.210 --> 01:25:46.739
is no longer theirs. which by the way is kind

01:25:46.739 --> 01:25:48.279
of a fucked up thing with our system not for

01:25:48.279 --> 01:25:49.859
nothing it's like oh you got arrested for a crime

01:25:49.859 --> 01:25:51.600
this was your property even if it wasn't involved

01:25:51.600 --> 01:25:54.479
in it well it's it's now ours so so thank you

01:25:54.479 --> 01:25:58.319
for that um and it just gets taken and so now

01:25:58.319 --> 01:26:01.479
in the ether it could be anywhere we don't know

01:26:01.479 --> 01:26:05.000
so just keep that in mind that with a buyback

01:26:05.000 --> 01:26:07.220
just because the government's buying it back

01:26:07.220 --> 01:26:09.680
doesn't mean the government's going to use it

01:26:09.680 --> 01:26:16.500
for something good Remember, they're the government.

01:26:16.600 --> 01:26:18.880
They're here to help. Yeah, to help get themselves

01:26:18.880 --> 01:26:22.979
more money. They're here to take your taxes.

01:26:24.699 --> 01:26:28.140
Yes. But yeah, no, buybacks are stupid. Hey,

01:26:28.180 --> 01:26:30.220
taxes and tariffs. We'll have to do an episode

01:26:30.220 --> 01:26:33.939
on that. Oh, I'm so excited. I am so aggressively

01:26:33.939 --> 01:26:36.819
pro -tariff. It's not even funny. But we've been

01:26:36.819 --> 01:26:40.239
waiting for more information. Yeah, I just wish

01:26:40.239 --> 01:26:42.739
people would calm the fuck down because my...

01:26:43.370 --> 01:26:47.710
My portfolio is crying right now. It's a short

01:26:47.710 --> 01:26:49.789
-term pain for a long -term. It's temporary,

01:26:49.869 --> 01:26:53.609
and I'm just going to wait for the sales to finish

01:26:53.609 --> 01:26:56.770
up so I can buy. Oh, yeah, buy the dip. That's

01:26:56.770 --> 01:27:01.010
how you get rich, baby. You know, I don't want

01:27:01.010 --> 01:27:03.550
to be rich. I just want to have enough. Like,

01:27:03.550 --> 01:27:06.430
I want to pay off my house and then just coast

01:27:06.430 --> 01:27:10.329
on what I'm making for a while. Yeah. Well, I

01:27:10.329 --> 01:27:13.239
think. Most Americans my age or younger consider

01:27:13.239 --> 01:27:16.760
that rich. Because the idea of having a paid

01:27:16.760 --> 01:27:18.539
off house, I think for the majority of people

01:27:18.539 --> 01:27:24.840
under 30 is like an impossible dream. Yeah. So

01:27:24.840 --> 01:27:32.399
way off topic here. I'm hoping that I'm going

01:27:32.399 --> 01:27:34.239
to be able to be in a position to where I can

01:27:34.239 --> 01:27:37.039
leave my house for my kids because I worry about

01:27:37.039 --> 01:27:41.630
the ability of them to be able to buy one. And

01:27:41.630 --> 01:27:44.689
that's terrifying because, you know, I've got

01:27:44.689 --> 01:27:46.390
an 18 year old that's coming out into the world.

01:27:46.449 --> 01:27:51.449
I've got a 13 year old who in, you know, five,

01:27:51.770 --> 01:27:54.989
eight, 10 years is going to be staring down that

01:27:54.989 --> 01:28:00.229
barrel. And I don't know that he's going to be

01:28:00.229 --> 01:28:04.489
able to buy a house at a reasonable situation.

01:28:04.829 --> 01:28:06.829
And the sad part is it doesn't matter what job

01:28:06.829 --> 01:28:08.989
they go into. I bet you that job will not pay

01:28:08.989 --> 01:28:14.029
enough. Unless we have a major crash. Which we're

01:28:14.029 --> 01:28:19.010
due for. It has to happen. And what sucks is

01:28:19.010 --> 01:28:21.390
I know people that combined make almost a quarter

01:28:21.390 --> 01:28:23.989
million. And in my area, they still can't afford

01:28:23.989 --> 01:28:29.409
a house. Good lord. I make good money. My girlfriend

01:28:29.409 --> 01:28:32.569
makes good money. And I am lucky the fact that

01:28:32.569 --> 01:28:34.289
basically I have taken the last 10 years of my

01:28:34.289 --> 01:28:35.909
life taking care of my grandparents so I can

01:28:35.909 --> 01:28:38.529
have a house. Because even with both of us making

01:28:38.529 --> 01:28:42.880
good money, I wouldn't get approved because I

01:28:42.880 --> 01:28:46.619
don't... Not happening. No. If I have to put

01:28:46.619 --> 01:28:49.539
10 %... There are still places in America you

01:28:49.539 --> 01:28:54.560
can buy a house, like in my area. With what you're

01:28:54.560 --> 01:28:55.960
making, you could probably still get a house.

01:28:55.960 --> 01:28:58.460
With what I'm making, I'd be fine out your way.

01:28:58.859 --> 01:29:03.699
But out my way, it's... I spent $1 ,000 last

01:29:03.699 --> 01:29:06.880
month heating my house. I spend like $700 plus

01:29:06.880 --> 01:29:10.489
a month on taxes. Dude, I got my power bill finally.

01:29:10.609 --> 01:29:18.470
I was so relieved. It was only 180. Hey, I had

01:29:18.470 --> 01:29:21.210
a $400 power bill for December. I was shitting

01:29:21.210 --> 01:29:23.869
a brick. Dude, I don't have electric heat and

01:29:23.869 --> 01:29:30.250
mine was 380. And that was what the tenant moved

01:29:30.250 --> 01:29:35.149
out. Wow. Because I believe our kilowatt hours

01:29:35.149 --> 01:29:37.890
in the winter are like. Something crazy like

01:29:37.890 --> 01:29:42.310
32 cents or something like that. 30, 32. They

01:29:42.310 --> 01:29:45.609
basically double it over the winter. Because

01:29:45.609 --> 01:29:48.850
during the summer it's like 18. So basically

01:29:48.850 --> 01:29:53.210
my bill is always like 400 bucks. Oh my God.

01:29:53.409 --> 01:29:58.430
Yeah, I know. I pay like 10 .2. Yeah. Year round.

01:29:58.609 --> 01:30:01.010
The power company should also send lube with

01:30:01.010 --> 01:30:04.609
their bill. That's what I'm learning. You know,

01:30:04.630 --> 01:30:08.500
it makes my life easier. Oh. That's why I want

01:30:08.500 --> 01:30:10.380
to get the ultra -efficient. My girlfriend and

01:30:10.380 --> 01:30:11.939
I were looking. We were at Costco earlier. They

01:30:11.939 --> 01:30:15.060
have the ultra -efficient air conditioners. I

01:30:15.060 --> 01:30:18.380
might have to get some. You might need to get

01:30:18.380 --> 01:30:20.439
more solar panels is what you need. That's the

01:30:20.439 --> 01:30:22.720
sad part. Even with the solar panels, it's just...

01:30:22.720 --> 01:30:27.119
It's just... It might... And a wind generator.

01:30:27.739 --> 01:30:29.539
I'm about to build my own fucking nuclear reactor

01:30:29.539 --> 01:30:34.579
the rate we're going. Like, fuck. You can do

01:30:34.579 --> 01:30:40.640
it. I mean, the parts are on Amazon. Right. But.

01:30:41.979 --> 01:30:44.979
All right. Well, I don't have anything else to.

01:30:45.079 --> 01:30:47.800
This is a fun little, fun little chat. You know,

01:30:47.800 --> 01:30:53.399
I enjoyed this one. Yeah. You know. Yeah. I guess.

01:30:55.279 --> 01:30:59.640
Guns are not bad. People are bad. No, it's. You

01:30:59.640 --> 01:31:01.340
know, it's never been the fault of the firearm

01:31:01.340 --> 01:31:02.680
for something like that happening. It's just

01:31:02.680 --> 01:31:04.340
all in how you handle it and what you do and

01:31:04.340 --> 01:31:07.979
just understand. You know, you take away the

01:31:07.979 --> 01:31:09.560
gun, we use a knife. You take away the knife,

01:31:09.640 --> 01:31:13.800
we use a rock or a stick. I mean, it's how we've

01:31:13.800 --> 01:31:16.979
done business for tens of thousands of years.

01:31:17.300 --> 01:31:19.779
And consider most every other civilized country

01:31:19.779 --> 01:31:22.500
is more violent than us on almost every level.

01:31:24.579 --> 01:31:28.899
And how you know that is very simple. If you

01:31:28.899 --> 01:31:32.859
look at photos of a country, watch how many single

01:31:32.859 --> 01:31:35.810
younger women are walking around in areas. You

01:31:35.810 --> 01:31:38.550
notice in America, 99 % of areas women can walk

01:31:38.550 --> 01:31:40.810
around just fine. You suddenly go to some of

01:31:40.810 --> 01:31:42.390
these other countries, and you won't see any

01:31:42.390 --> 01:31:45.829
of them. There's a reason why certain countries

01:31:45.829 --> 01:31:48.170
don't leave the house, and it's not always because

01:31:48.170 --> 01:31:50.350
of the religion. It's because of, hey, if they

01:31:50.350 --> 01:31:52.810
leave, they're going to get hurt. And it sucks,

01:31:52.930 --> 01:31:54.850
and it's stupid, and it shouldn't happen, but

01:31:54.850 --> 01:31:57.529
not my country. I can't tell them how to live.

01:31:58.909 --> 01:32:04.689
Nope. Oh, so Oside, I can explain that. He commented

01:32:04.689 --> 01:32:06.510
here somewhere that they are forcing solar people

01:32:06.510 --> 01:32:09.569
to give to the power companies electricity for

01:32:09.569 --> 01:32:12.189
free, and they're getting charged for it. So

01:32:12.189 --> 01:32:15.029
here's how it works in my state, because my state's

01:32:15.029 --> 01:32:18.670
run by a bunch of communists. We get paid one

01:32:18.670 --> 01:32:20.750
-tenth the rate. I think it's like one -eighth

01:32:20.750 --> 01:32:25.250
or one -tenth, something like that. Gross. Now,

01:32:25.310 --> 01:32:27.829
Greg, the good news is... For me, it doesn't

01:32:27.829 --> 01:32:30.130
matter because I use more energy than I generate.

01:32:30.289 --> 01:32:32.310
So for me, they don't have to pay me on that.

01:32:32.789 --> 01:32:34.989
So the good news is it basically runs my beater

01:32:34.989 --> 01:32:36.829
to where I don't use a lot most of the time,

01:32:36.850 --> 01:32:40.170
especially in the summer. But my neighbor has

01:32:40.170 --> 01:32:42.289
the problem where when he's not home a lot of

01:32:42.289 --> 01:32:44.890
the time and it's literally just his solar panels

01:32:44.890 --> 01:32:47.829
running, he might generate $500 worth of electricity.

01:32:48.329 --> 01:32:51.470
He'll get 50 bucks on his credit for it. But

01:32:51.470 --> 01:32:53.270
then guess what? All the things that are running

01:32:53.270 --> 01:32:55.369
in his house still somehow use that up every

01:32:55.369 --> 01:32:58.399
time. But yet they can resell that same energy

01:32:58.399 --> 01:32:59.880
that you just brought in the system for that

01:32:59.880 --> 01:33:04.399
500. So that's bullshit. It's called a monopoly

01:33:04.399 --> 01:33:09.140
and communism. That too. Yeah. Yeah. I love it.

01:33:09.159 --> 01:33:13.039
It's great. It's great. I can't wait to sell

01:33:13.039 --> 01:33:20.060
and leave here. It's great. Yeah. Yeah. I think

01:33:20.060 --> 01:33:21.739
it's going to wrap us up for today. Yeah. Yeah.

01:33:21.859 --> 01:33:23.800
Any other questions, comments, concerns, thoughts,

01:33:23.979 --> 01:33:27.960
last minute things. Any questions from the audience?

01:33:35.699 --> 01:33:39.220
Best rifle? Depends. What's the purpose? I'm

01:33:39.220 --> 01:33:44.100
fond of the M60, but that's just because I started

01:33:44.100 --> 01:33:46.199
rising up off the deck when I was shooting it.

01:33:48.340 --> 01:33:53.289
The 25mm machine gun, also very fond of it. I'm

01:33:53.289 --> 01:33:56.390
sorry, timeout. As far as like... 25 millimeter

01:33:56.390 --> 01:34:01.350
machine gun. Uh -huh, deck mounted. That was...

01:34:01.350 --> 01:34:04.710
I believe we call those cannons, sir. That's

01:34:04.710 --> 01:34:10.029
big enough to classify as cannons. Yeah, 76 rounds

01:34:10.029 --> 01:34:17.850
a minute. It was orgasmic. Best civilian legal...

01:34:19.100 --> 01:34:21.460
or civilian available, because I can own just

01:34:21.460 --> 01:34:26.199
about anything in my state. I would have to say,

01:34:26.479 --> 01:34:29.939
while I'm fond of my Mosin, I've got to go with

01:34:29.939 --> 01:34:34.800
the AK. So, eh. It depends on what you're trying

01:34:34.800 --> 01:34:39.260
to do. That's the thing. Best rifle, if you're

01:34:39.260 --> 01:34:40.939
talking about in America, for most people, it's

01:34:40.939 --> 01:34:44.180
going to be a 5 .56 platform. It's just simply

01:34:44.180 --> 01:34:46.220
put, you could hunt a lot of things with it.

01:34:46.300 --> 01:34:50.630
Self -defense is good. good flight characteristics,

01:34:50.909 --> 01:34:53.930
easy to aim, easy recoil. If you're looking at

01:34:53.930 --> 01:34:56.770
a semi -automatic rifle to get started in, it's

01:34:56.770 --> 01:35:00.130
hard to say no with that. That being said, if

01:35:00.130 --> 01:35:01.989
you're looking to go to war with it, absolutely

01:35:01.989 --> 01:35:04.829
an AK platform is a great option. You and I are

01:35:04.829 --> 01:35:10.430
both Mosin fans, so we both like those. I can

01:35:10.430 --> 01:35:13.689
definitely say anything that's 30 -06 if you

01:35:13.689 --> 01:35:15.050
want to get something with a little more punch

01:35:15.050 --> 01:35:19.409
to the power. You know 30 .6 or 308 Really anything

01:35:19.409 --> 01:35:21.050
with a semi -automatic or bolt action that's

01:35:21.050 --> 01:35:22.789
gonna handle your mid to upper range for most

01:35:22.789 --> 01:35:26.869
anything anything bigger than that I Have a hard

01:35:26.869 --> 01:35:28.350
time justifying unless you're doing some crazy

01:35:28.350 --> 01:35:32.750
shit Yeah, I mean like you like you like best

01:35:32.750 --> 01:35:36.069
overkill a 700 nitro Express Yeah, no shit if

01:35:36.069 --> 01:35:37.590
you're trying to kill the Buffalo on the other

01:35:37.590 --> 01:35:42.770
side of the house after the fridge Fuck, that's

01:35:42.770 --> 01:35:45.210
like carrying a deagle in .50 AE. Like, fucking

01:35:45.210 --> 01:35:48.609
Christ. I feel like that's one of those things

01:35:48.609 --> 01:35:52.770
where if you can't use it properly, then there's

01:35:52.770 --> 01:35:55.270
no point in owning it. Like, as cool as I think

01:35:55.270 --> 01:35:59.569
some of them are, like, if you can't hit what

01:35:59.569 --> 01:36:01.010
you're looking at, what's the fucking point?

01:36:01.430 --> 01:36:06.449
So, I don't know. Oh, what was it? The revolver

01:36:06.449 --> 01:36:12.680
that shot the .454 Castle with the 20mm or 30

01:36:12.680 --> 01:36:16.380
millimeter under barrel i think it was like a

01:36:16.380 --> 01:36:20.260
prob gut or something but my god it was it was

01:36:20.260 --> 01:36:24.420
amazing i will say the ars chambered and 50 beowulf

01:36:24.420 --> 01:36:27.920
um that is a cartridge that does not get enough

01:36:27.920 --> 01:36:30.760
love that would be cool because it's basically

01:36:30.760 --> 01:36:33.119
just like a snub down 50 so it's a lot easier

01:36:33.119 --> 01:36:40.329
to handle right yeah and it it takes um there's

01:36:40.329 --> 01:36:43.130
an AR magazine. I think standard AR double stack

01:36:43.130 --> 01:36:45.729
bags, it will run in. But it only holds like

01:36:45.729 --> 01:36:48.069
eight rounds. So that's cool if you need a higher

01:36:48.069 --> 01:36:51.630
caliber. I always wanted one in .458 SOCOM. You

01:36:51.630 --> 01:36:54.449
can swap out the upper. I want to get an AR in

01:36:54.449 --> 01:36:58.550
.458 SOCOM. I always thought that'd be fucking

01:36:58.550 --> 01:37:03.289
dope. Oh, yeah. Oh, God, what's that? Oh, .300

01:37:03.289 --> 01:37:05.750
Blackout is kind of cool. If you want a good

01:37:05.750 --> 01:37:08.430
subsonic ammo, if you're running a suppressor,

01:37:08.430 --> 01:37:11.579
that kind of deal. But yeah, I mean best rifle

01:37:11.579 --> 01:37:14.060
it all depends what you're doing, but Anything

01:37:14.060 --> 01:37:17.159
seven six two or five five six you can't go wrong

01:37:17.159 --> 01:37:20.239
You know as long as you research what the hell

01:37:20.239 --> 01:37:22.819
you need You know, I just make sure it's reliable

01:37:22.819 --> 01:37:24.659
not for nothing do the maintenance on it. Make

01:37:24.659 --> 01:37:29.180
sure it works a 500 950 JDJ. Yeah, that thing's

01:37:29.180 --> 01:37:33.899
insane But that's terrifying. That's That is

01:37:33.899 --> 01:37:36.180
the good old non -consensual shoulder remover

01:37:36.569 --> 01:37:39.630
That's the chiropractor in a can, we call those.

01:37:39.850 --> 01:37:46.409
It just, you know. God. You ever want to have

01:37:46.409 --> 01:37:47.989
Arnold Schwarzenegger hit you with the power

01:37:47.989 --> 01:37:50.250
of a thousand terminators? That is the fucking

01:37:50.250 --> 01:37:53.689
dive 50 JDJ. That's a fat back. That's the one.

01:37:53.810 --> 01:37:57.590
I just wrote that. Yeah. Those are nuts. I just,

01:37:57.649 --> 01:38:00.829
oh yeah. I love, I love firearms like that. The

01:38:00.829 --> 01:38:05.930
weird stuff. I have a couple of the casings from

01:38:05.930 --> 01:38:09.270
the 25 that I had to use during the one engagement

01:38:09.270 --> 01:38:12.930
that I was involved with. I'll send you some

01:38:12.930 --> 01:38:18.810
pictures if you want. They're not small. I think

01:38:18.810 --> 01:38:23.609
what else? In terms of carry, in terms of rifle,

01:38:23.869 --> 01:38:26.329
I think that kind of covers most of the calibers

01:38:26.329 --> 01:38:27.869
that we see in America. There's a lot of calibers

01:38:27.869 --> 01:38:30.229
that we don't see in America. in terms of ammunition

01:38:30.229 --> 01:38:31.930
that's the other thing if you're ever going to

01:38:31.930 --> 01:38:33.989
get a firearm make sure the ammo is readily available

01:38:33.989 --> 01:38:38.930
because i had a lever action 35 remington fun

01:38:38.930 --> 01:38:41.829
fact that ammo is not available in america that's

01:38:41.829 --> 01:38:45.850
a particularly european thing so i still have

01:38:45.850 --> 01:38:47.909
some just because but i got rid of the rifle

01:38:47.909 --> 01:38:51.289
because couldn't find ammo but make sure you

01:38:51.289 --> 01:38:55.779
get ammo for it especially nowadays um In terms

01:38:55.779 --> 01:38:58.279
of pistols, again, you got your .380 ACP on the

01:38:58.279 --> 01:39:00.359
low end. You got your 9mm. You got your .45.

01:39:00.880 --> 01:39:03.399
You got your 10mms and .40s. Don't forget .22.

01:39:03.680 --> 01:39:05.460
Oh, you can carry .22. I love .22. You can carry

01:39:05.460 --> 01:39:08.739
.22. You know what? I have to watch a video.

01:39:09.199 --> 01:39:12.640
Somebody did a video on, is .22 Magnum a good

01:39:12.640 --> 01:39:15.340
self -defense round? And I actually don't know

01:39:15.340 --> 01:39:19.159
enough about it. It actually is. It's a solid

01:39:19.159 --> 01:39:23.960
round. How does it compare against .380? I'll

01:39:23.960 --> 01:39:25.399
let you watch the video. Oh, so you saw that

01:39:25.399 --> 01:39:26.819
too? I don't want to spoil it for you. Okay.

01:39:27.060 --> 01:39:30.579
All right, because that's on my to -do. Yeah.

01:39:32.220 --> 01:39:34.920
Like the bullet doesn't have a lot of mass, but

01:39:34.920 --> 01:39:39.000
speed kills. Okay, okay. Because I would love

01:39:39.000 --> 01:39:43.659
to get a .22 mag to have it. Yeah. But no, .22?

01:39:43.800 --> 01:39:46.939
Yeah, .22 mag is good. Oh, yeah. .22LR, that's

01:39:46.939 --> 01:39:51.020
the usual .22. Great for pistols, great for rifles.

01:39:51.100 --> 01:39:53.319
They're fun. I recommend anybody that's getting

01:39:53.319 --> 01:39:57.100
into firearms get a .22LR training pistol or

01:39:57.100 --> 01:40:00.800
rifle. Yep. For the love of God. 100%. Do it.

01:40:01.199 --> 01:40:09.020
It's worth it. Do the roar. But yeah, I think

01:40:09.020 --> 01:40:12.420
that's going to finish us up for tonight. Hit

01:40:12.420 --> 01:40:14.640
us up on the socials. Hopefully the TikTok goes

01:40:14.640 --> 01:40:17.840
live soon. Sorry, I have been slacking and I

01:40:17.840 --> 01:40:20.789
know I keep saying this every week, so. You are

01:40:20.789 --> 01:40:22.590
welcome to hit me with a baseball bat. I don't

01:40:22.590 --> 01:40:27.630
know. I don't know. I hit you with the flesh

01:40:27.630 --> 01:40:31.909
stick. No, I don't swing that way. No, no, no,

01:40:32.050 --> 01:40:38.510
no, no, no, no, no. I don't want to know. But

01:40:38.510 --> 01:40:46.109
as always, find us on the socials. I think I'm

01:40:46.109 --> 01:40:48.430
going to try doing a group on Facebook and see

01:40:48.430 --> 01:40:50.270
how that does. You know, that might be worth

01:40:50.270 --> 01:40:55.529
it. Oh, on our TikTok, I've kind of decided that

01:40:55.529 --> 01:40:57.329
I'm going to start using it kind of more like

01:40:57.329 --> 01:41:00.510
primarily on my end. And I've been starting a

01:41:00.510 --> 01:41:02.350
lot of TikTok arguments lately in my personal

01:41:02.350 --> 01:41:05.510
one. So I might be causing a little TikTok chaos

01:41:05.510 --> 01:41:08.310
with ours. Because why not, right? Good deal.

01:41:08.449 --> 01:41:11.609
You know. Do it. Do the thing. I'll use this

01:41:11.609 --> 01:41:15.430
episode to argue with people from Europe. Oh,

01:41:15.430 --> 01:41:20.329
yes. Do it. All right. Well, guys, thanks for

01:41:20.329 --> 01:41:25.149
hanging out with us. Hope you enjoyed the thought

01:41:25.149 --> 01:41:30.189
bubbles. Thought bubbles. They said I didn't

01:41:30.189 --> 01:41:34.350
have a thought behind these eyes. I had exactly

01:41:34.350 --> 01:41:39.069
two. We are, in fact, not smooth brains here.

01:41:39.170 --> 01:41:46.300
We do have a few wrinkles. But, yeah, thanks

01:41:46.300 --> 01:41:49.140
for hanging out, and we'll catch you guys again

01:41:49.140 --> 01:41:50.420
next week. Oh, yeah.