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episode or podcast, but we may cover some topics

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that dance that line like a toddler dances on

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their mother's last nerve. This podcast is rated

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I. For immature audiences only. Hello and welcome

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back to Now We Consume. I am your host Gibbs

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and along with me is my co -host Pip. Picking

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my nose like we're picking up books for today's

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topic. Anyways, I never know where you're going

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to go with that. I never know where I'm going

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to go with that. I shoot from the hip. Like Johnny

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Sins. I'm sorry, I had to bring Johnny Sins back

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into the rotation. I don't know. You're really

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into him lately. I don't know. Whatever you're

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into, I'm not here to judge. Like many boys across

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this nation, he was one of my idols growing up,

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okay? I mean, that man had so many illustrious

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careers. I don't know how he could do it. He

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had a lot of time. I know. That's why I'm a jack

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of most trades. He truly is my favorite astronaut

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plumber. But anyways. So. I did want to give

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a shout -out and say thank you, everybody, too,

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that's been interacting with us on social media,

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in the comment sections, watching and everything.

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We've been seeing a great uptick lately, and

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we really appreciate it. As always, please join

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us, kind of see what's going on when we upload

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episodes and whatnot, and kind of get an idea

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if we want any sort of topics, any sort of interactions,

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stuff like that coming up. We actually have a

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couple that have been suggested by viewers. um,

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that we're going to be getting into. So that's

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a proof, proof in the pudding, just like the

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tapioca mix that we, uh, we pay attention to

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the listeners. Don't, don't even go there. Don't,

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don't do it. I swear to God. You don't want the

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tapioca pudding there Gibbs. Nope. Nope. Nope.

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Nope. I don't want to be here in the background.

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Why is it chunky? It's no chunky gift. But anyways,

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so we were having a discussion while ago, and

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this topic was kind of spurred on by a few things

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that have happened politically. We're not going

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to dive into the politics of this as much as

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kind of more of like a factual, objective kind

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of discussion and our opinions as to what's going

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on. But anyways, we want to talk about the truth

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about the education system in America. And why

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I'm saying truth is... there's a lot of subjective

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ideas that people kind of assert as a reality

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in the American education system. And we kind

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of want to talk about the history, why it is

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the way it is, why it's structured the way it

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is, and kind of the pros and cons as to the way

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it's been operating. The reason why this came

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up was because the other day Donald Trump was

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talking about getting rid of or defunding the

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Department of Education. And there are many people

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that feel like that was a department that brought

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a lot of good and a lot of standards to the country.

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But as somebody that was in the education system

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that left, that has actually studied this stuff,

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I was very much in the opposing view of looking

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at it statistically. The Department of Education

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in America, while it was a good idea, did not

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fulfill its role, even in the slightest, and

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if anything, caused immense, immense harm. And

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we'll discuss with that in here as to why. But

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there are some pros with it too, so I'm not going

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to just say it was all bad. Right. But anyways.

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And keep in mind, when he says getting rid of

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the Department of Education, he's not closing

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the doors on the entire thing. There are parts

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of it that will be sticking around. And oddly

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enough, it's the parts that are actually working.

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People have been screaming, oh, the food. lunch

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pro or the school lunch programs are going to

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go away and all this other shit no that's the

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department of agriculture that handles the school

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lunch programs a lot of people didn't know that

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so that's a whole separate deal and department

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of ag is not going anywhere what he's basically

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covering in that defund for the department of

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education mostly has to do with curriculums standards

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which That's a whole separate discussion on why

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that was an issue. But also, really, a lot of

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it was just administrative costs. A lot of it

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was due to poor standardized testing and even

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just a big waste of money on some stuff that

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were like studies on different testing methodologies

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and whatnot that didn't lead to anything. And

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when you're spending billions of dollars or sometimes

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even trillions of dollars over the course of

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decades and not really getting anything for it,

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what's the point? What are you doing? Right.

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But... Oh, sorry, I thought you were going to

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say something. No, yeah, the sheer volume of

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money that was spent over the 40 plus years that

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the DOE has existed is staggering. And I'll give

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you the total now, but we're going to touch on

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a lot of the breakdown later. Two trillion dollars

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has been spent on education, public education

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in America. what we've gotten out of it. If anyone

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has seen the video from Caitlin Bennett, that's

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been making the rounds on the web where she interviewed

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people on spring break, asking just basic civics

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questions that are actually on the exam that

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you have to take to become a U S citizen. These

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are college kids that she's asking like high

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school and college kids. They don't know the

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answers to questions like, How many continents

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are there? What continent are you on right now?

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And they're in like Florida or some shit. Because

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they're mentally incontinent. That's the problem.

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How many justices are on the Supreme Court? 47.

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Name a country that borders America. Blue. Name

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a country the Great Wall of China runs through.

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I mean, these are stupid -ass questions. As of

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Trump Mexico. These kids do not know the answers

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to. And it's like, I'm sorry. If this is taxpayer

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money, I want a fucking refund. Oh, yeah. It's

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going to show for a while that if you talk to

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kids, it's weird. I think that high schoolers

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are more aware of what certain political parties

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are pushing. political candidates rather than

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the history of their own country or being knowledgeable

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about their own laws how to be a citizen in their

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own country and like for instance a quick little

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aside how many kids have no idea how to do basic

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life skills at all and this includes things like

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get a job do taxes you know being able to actually

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function yeah it's nothing but thank god i can

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do pythagorean theorem like a bastard thank god

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Powerhouse of the cell mitochondria. Yes. Like

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I think, you know, I use it every single day

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for work, working on cars. That's all I think

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about is the mitochondria. Did, did you happen

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to see the thing I posted in the notes at the

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very bottom? Oh, look at that. So I wanted to

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make sure that we touched on this and we can,

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we can go back over this at the end of the episode.

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But I'm going to go ahead and do this early on.

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Isn't it strange that after years of government

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education, 18 -year -olds cannot grow their own

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food, build a house, fix a car. They are economically

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and historically illiterate. They are unaware

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of proper nutrition, how the human body actually

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works and or functions. They struggle with depression.

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They have zero money management skills. They

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have no idea how to manage, invest, or work their

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taxes. Yeah. Crazy, isn't it? But damn it, they

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know pronouns. I know. It goes to show it's almost

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like they're not for education, but indoctrination.

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I have zero issue with people being who or what

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they want to be. But keep all that shit out of

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the classrooms or have a special class off to

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the side after the general curriculum is done.

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That kind of stuff needs to be set aside for

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something like an elective. If kids are interested

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in those types of subjects and issues, make it

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an elective course that they can take if they

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want and it's not pushed on them. I will be even

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harder on this one. I will say that I think teacher

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objectivity versus subjectivity should be something

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that's heavily enforced and regulated. Yes. My

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problem was that the reason why I left the education

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system was because I was one of the few that

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did not want to push a certain set of values.

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And my goal was for the students to never know

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how I lean politically because it's not my business

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discussing politics with them. If anything, it's

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to facilitate an open discussion where at least

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in my opinion, as long as your thoughts politically.

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are within the confines of the Constitution,

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I will never say a word. If it's not, I will

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just politely say, by the way, just so you're

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aware, that technically goes against kind of

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the laws of the country, just so you're aware,

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but besides that, have at it, whatever. But no,

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so many teachers preach their subjective idea

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of what this country should be as objective reality.

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And that is one of the problems why so many kids

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coming out of high school have no idea what reality

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is. And they are encapsulated in this bubble.

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Where they are so used to being coddled. They're

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so used to getting their way. They're so used

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to reality being what they deem it to be. When

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in reality, honestly, in the real working world,

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nobody cares what you think or speak as long

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as you do your job. If you're going to start

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a business, great. Start a business. But guess

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what? Nobody's hiring a plumber to listen to

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their politics. Fix the goddamn pipes. Like it's,

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it's that simple. It doesn't matter what job

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you do. Unless if you want to talk politics,

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Go do a talk show or do a podcast, you know,

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or do something to where people come to you for

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that. But no, a lot of these kids have missed

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the point. And unfortunately, it's every single

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person around them, whether it be their parents

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or the education system propping up the idea

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of saying, oh, yeah, politics is so important

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to you that we're not going to teach you history.

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We're going to teach you subjective ideas. And

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that was my problem. And it still is the problem.

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It's becoming less so. But as long as the. teachers

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union is allowed to donate to a particular party,

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it will never be unbiased. Yeah. And that's,

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that's the route of least one of the issues today.

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It just, it's ridiculous. Keeping money where

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it needs to be spent on education is damn near

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impossible, but should be one of the core focuses.

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This a little aside to some I thought we're getting

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to later, but I feel like we're just on track

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with us right now anyway No in order to have

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a successful country. You need to create a class

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of people that want to run businesses The idea

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of this country now granted our tax system is

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leveraged very heavily against people without

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a ton of money to start businesses So unfortunately

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the case of even if you're out of high school

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you have a great idea You can't start a business

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anyway right now because you don't have the capital

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you have to have a ton of capital very good credit

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A lot of things lined up in lawyers, legal, stuff

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like that. So unfortunately, that system is against

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you, but vice versa. If you have no idea how

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to do your taxes, how to do payroll, how to deal

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with any of this stuff, how to even legally start

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a business, you'll never get going without some

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significant help. Whereas these things should

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be taught in high school, things like being efficient

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with math, understanding how to communicate with

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people, what's expected and required of you in

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a job market. How to have marketable and useful

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skills is something I know we've mentioned many

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times on this podcast. There's no point in you

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going to college or getting a degree in something

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that is absolutely fucking worthless. If you

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can't market that skill, if it's not an in -demand

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skill, congratulations, you're throwing your

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money at somebody to keep their useless skill

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in demand. It's this weird fucking Ponzi scheme

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of like, for example, I'm going to rash on this

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because I'm going to. And I have friends that

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have this degree, so I apologize if I'm picking

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on you, but I'm going to pick on you. If you

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go to college for political science, even though

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there's almost no job in the world that will

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hire you, specifically, because you have a political

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science degree, unless that job is speaking about

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politics, you're in a Ponzi scheme. You're in

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this kind of weird area where you are taking

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that degree to justify them teaching it so that

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you can go and then teach it somewhere else.

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And this happens with actually a lot of degrees.

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It's kind of insane. Same thing in the high school

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level where they have a lot of classes where

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teachers, oh, they have a degree in this. So

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they have the classes, but it doesn't actually

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do anything to help the kids. These kids are

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no better off. And that's one of the problems

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we need to as a country. And really, I'm glad

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it's going to more of the states to decide for

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their curriculums. So that way they can understand

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in their region, their idea, what is best for

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these kids to learn to be competitive? Because

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at the end of the day, You are competing with

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the person next to you for your job. And I know

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that sucks in a lot of ways, but you have to

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be able to offer something of value because vice

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versa. If I am a business owner and I'm going

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to hire an 18 year old, what's going to separate

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your kid from their kid? What's different? If

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they, and sometimes the stupidest little thing

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of, wow, this kid can at least talk to me. This

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other kid, sure, maybe he could do the job, but

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he can't talk to me. This one could do the job,

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and they could talk to me. We could have a nice

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conversation. We could figure stuff out. Great.

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At least he had a communications class. Good.

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You could speak proper English, and I mean proper

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English. Yep. Hold that thought. Ensuring the

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children of today are able to effectively communicate

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and not mumble at people. Oh, my God. I'm going

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to pick on my son for a minute. My oldest. Listen

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to him talk. Holy shit. I love him to death.

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But even his friends, sometimes I have a hard

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time making out what they're saying. So it's

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not just him. It's literally the entire like.

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25 to maybe 15 sect of kids that I've been listening

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to. And I feel like a lot of it started with,

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like was just pointed out in chat, the mumble

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rappers. It became a thing, and people just started

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trying to realize, oh, if I just am a little

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bit more lazy, I can get away, and I don't have

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to move my mouth as much. I can just kind of

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let it go to my, you know, but it reminds me

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of idiocracy where language devolved to just

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grunts and shit. Yes. So there again, we're devolving

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towards idiocracy yet again. It's, I think also

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there's a big factor. COVID played a huge factor

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for anybody that went to high school recently

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or even elementary school, any sort of that.

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There was a large portion of it where people

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weren't talking to each other. It was all text

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-based. And unfortunately, a lot of schools have

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made it so. Language skills were lost during

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COVID. That there were a lot of kids that their

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growth was stunted by years. You're talking the

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Baltimore high school system. Some eighth graders

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have a fifth or fourth grade reading level, which

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is insane. Didn't they anyways? It's way worse.

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I'm just saying. It was already bad. Now it's

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way worse. The issue I'm seeing is. In almost

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every job, unless you are truly going to be somebody

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that does a 100 % stay -at -home job, in the

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working world, you have to be proficient in speaking

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with people. Not just passable, but proficient

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and pleasant in order for people to like you.

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Because I will tell you right now, I have gotten

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jobs that I was not qualified for because they're

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like, wow, this guy presents himself well, can

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speak really well, really clear communicator.

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We'd like to work with him. And I did very well

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and it was great. However, I've met people that

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are well qualified, but they do not communicate

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well or effectively. Nobody ever told them. And

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they wonder why nobody hires them. Yep. And unfortunately,

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that's what's required in most situations, even

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going to college. If you go to do like a college

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interview or something like that, or if you go

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take these classes, especially if you want to

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get into very competitive fields, we have internships

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and you have to know people and you have to network.

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If you're not somebody that's willing to be social

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and get to know these people, you're not going

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to go very far or not as far as you could go.

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It's unfortunate. We live in a world where it's

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dominated by social interactions. And a lot of

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these schools do not help these kids because

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a lot of it either goes online. And I'm not saying

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I'm not saying schools have to force your kids

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to spend all day talking to one another because

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there are elements of academia to where, sure.

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You should be able to study independently, take

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tests independently, assess your own knowledge

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individually. But you also kind of have to work

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with people. Now, I don't think you should be

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graded as a group because I hated those fucking

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projects. I don't have to rely on someone else

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for my work. No. But you should have to talk

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to other people, talk about your thoughts on

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things. How do you come to these conclusions?

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I think that's very important to be able to state

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an opinion and stand your ground on it. To be

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able to argue, to be able to discuss. To agree

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or disagree and be able to have some sort of

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point behind it. All of that has been kind of

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lost. Yeah. Because going back to the original

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point of in a lot of high schools and a lot of

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curriculums, there isn't a margin to be able

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to discuss things. It's either right or wrong.

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It's either you have the correct opinion or the

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non -correct opinion. And unfortunately, as somebody

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that is a student of history, a lot of that shit

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is neither right nor wrong. A lot of it is very

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subjective, and you can take things several different

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ways. I thought history was just history. Yeah,

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history written by the victor, good sir. Written

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by the victors, absolutely. That is the problem.

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One of the best examples I will have, so I'll

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tell you guys this in chat. Because of a history

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nerd, I have history books written in England

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in 1890. I have a couple written in 1920, 1930.

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I have some German. 1910 1920 history books i

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have a french one which that one i have to spend

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the time and actually like decipher that one

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i used to take some french classes but i'm not

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good at french i'm barely good in english um

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is that from like the 40s uh the french one i

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want to say it was from the 20s oh so unfortunately

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i was going to ask if it's dented showing signs

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of being dropped No, they ripped out all the

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pages that were white to surrender. Ah, gotcha.

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But it's things like that to where you can really

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understand that there's a lot of things in education

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that do have some subjective arguments within

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them. Now, sure, you can argue math is objective

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-based. Yes, absolutely. But that's when you're

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going to apply these things and doing some other

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stuff. There's some things where you should be

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allowed to discuss and debate, and that's really

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just not allowed. Since you brought up math and

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since we're talking about the education system.

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Yes. I recently got into a very heated back and

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forth with my youngest son's math teacher. About

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what? Because we're both proficient in math.

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So I'm curious. Well, yeah, I kind of have to

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be given my job. The teacher was upset. That

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I was showing Connor how to do math problems.

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Okay. And it wasn't being done the way they wanted

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it shown. As long as it's consistent, it shouldn't

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matter. That was kind of my argument. Yeah. And

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the teacher's response was, well, this is how

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we're teaching it. And I'm like, that makes no

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sense. Like, I had her take me through the steps.

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And I'm like, you're adding. 10 additional steps,

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complicating it four times more than it needs

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to be, all you're doing is confusing these children.

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You could have had the answer 10 steps ago. Why

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are you adding all this extra shit in? So a lot

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of the Common Core math, I can tell you, a lot

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of it has to do with they try to have the proofing

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for that line within the next line. So the idea

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is technically, if you do it their way, it's

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very easy to see where you screw up. The problem

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is you have to remember how to do it their way.

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And if you don't remember how to do it their

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way, you will screw up. Okay. So here's the other

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question. If you're not showing everybody involved

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in that process, how is everybody supposed to

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know it? Because they didn't have a class for

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the parents to take to learn all this new bullshit.

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So you have a child learning one way, a parent

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that was taught another way. The two are not

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able to dock up and meet. So you can't make any

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of that happen and make everything happy. So

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for the audience that didn't see the visual,

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you'll just have to look that up because I'm

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not explaining it. That being said. The thing

00:22:53.359 --> 00:22:54.759
you have to understand about the education system,

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they have zero intention of having you being

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involved with your child's education. This is

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my problem with the modern education system.

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I think it's very insidious, and a lot of teachers

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I don't think are aware of this. They actively

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do not want you involved in your child's education.

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I could tell you that right now. Why? Oh, because

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of the many districts that do sex education,

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stuff like that, and basically show pornography

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to their children. You might have districts that

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will not show what actually is in their curriculums

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for these various different classes. There's

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a lot of history in English classes that they

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will just they'll just not show you. It's like,

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oh, yeah, you'll figure it out. They won't involve

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you. They won't tell you. They won't have. No,

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it's actively. You are not. Unfortunately, you

00:23:38.660 --> 00:23:40.960
are not part of your child's education. That's

00:23:40.960 --> 00:23:42.660
how they view it. They view it as they are the

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educators. They are the teachers. They are the

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ones that have the, you know, the. degrees the

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masters or the doctorates or whatever so why

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would they involve you you're not you're not

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in the equation which is terrible because guess

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what you are with the kids the other half of

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the day but the teachers don't do that they don't

00:24:01.720 --> 00:24:03.960
involve you they fail to take in the parents

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that actually care the parents that not only

00:24:06.799 --> 00:24:10.319
can but will get involved and the parents that

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will make the school year a nightmare for the

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teachers that try to screw the the kids over

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Especially when it comes to issues. Yeah. I'm

00:24:21.730 --> 00:24:24.589
one of those parents, especially someone fucks

00:24:24.589 --> 00:24:30.210
with my kid. I will rain down hell. Somebody

00:24:30.210 --> 00:24:33.650
bullies my kid. I will bully that kid's parents.

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And if I have to, I will bully that other kid.

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I will make them cry. and piss their pants at

00:24:39.220 --> 00:24:42.380
school. We as a podcast do not officially condone

00:24:42.380 --> 00:24:44.059
or endorse bullying. I will just have to throw

00:24:44.059 --> 00:24:46.140
that out there for... No, we should bring back

00:24:46.140 --> 00:24:48.440
bullying. Since we're in the education system,

00:24:48.700 --> 00:24:51.720
maybe we should bring back bullying. It'll fix

00:24:51.720 --> 00:24:53.380
a lot of fucking problems out there. I'll tell

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you that right now. Well, the issue is a lot

00:24:56.740 --> 00:24:58.299
of schools don't actually address bullying. They

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have this no tolerance policy, but really it's

00:25:00.940 --> 00:25:02.319
an excuse for the school to not have to deal

00:25:02.319 --> 00:25:05.240
with it. They don't actually have to address

00:25:05.240 --> 00:25:08.099
it. Yeah. Which means... It's not so much a zero

00:25:08.099 --> 00:25:13.339
tolerance, it's just zero engagement. Yeah. You're

00:25:13.339 --> 00:25:15.220
not allowed to interfere, intercept, do any of

00:25:15.220 --> 00:25:18.539
that stuff. It's just, no. Yeah. No, my kids

00:25:18.539 --> 00:25:20.819
are very well aware and have been taught as much.

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Somebody puts a hand on them, they're putting

00:25:24.039 --> 00:25:28.660
hands back. Yeah. And they understand. They will

00:25:28.660 --> 00:25:31.019
not be getting in trouble with me. No. As long

00:25:31.019 --> 00:25:33.619
as they don't throw the first punch. But goddammit,

00:25:33.640 --> 00:25:39.990
they will be throwing the rest. But it's just,

00:25:40.029 --> 00:25:42.910
it's a part of that system to where you as a

00:25:42.910 --> 00:25:45.829
parent are not taken into account. And the teachers

00:25:45.829 --> 00:25:49.730
might say you are. I'll be honest. It's all lies.

00:25:50.349 --> 00:25:53.029
I hate to say it. I saw it because I helped out

00:25:53.029 --> 00:25:56.470
with my family and other people I know. They

00:25:56.470 --> 00:25:59.329
just don't. And if you were a teacher that did,

00:25:59.529 --> 00:26:01.950
you got yourself into more problems and issues.

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Because they're also legal. you know at least

00:26:05.170 --> 00:26:06.710
in my state like there's certain things you can't

00:26:06.710 --> 00:26:08.950
even ask you can't tell you can't do certain

00:26:08.950 --> 00:26:11.690
things you just have to kind of abide by the

00:26:11.690 --> 00:26:14.150
official curriculum and that's that god forbid

00:26:14.150 --> 00:26:15.609
you want to do something to help kids out no

00:26:15.609 --> 00:26:20.809
there's you just know so a lot of these regulations

00:26:20.809 --> 00:26:24.490
before had to do with on the federal level so

00:26:24.490 --> 00:26:26.470
that's why that's why coming back to the visual

00:26:26.470 --> 00:26:29.869
thing i'm hoping that with The removal of some

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of these restrictions, it will go to the states

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and they'll be able to make smarter decisions

00:26:32.710 --> 00:26:34.990
about what these children actually need and what's

00:26:34.990 --> 00:26:40.069
best for them. You know, if if they push it more

00:26:40.069 --> 00:26:42.829
towards an original foundation of the education

00:26:42.829 --> 00:26:47.690
system, it might look a little bit better. But.

00:26:49.470 --> 00:26:53.650
Well, let's let's go back and keep keep the religious

00:26:53.650 --> 00:26:57.309
stuff out of the school. Well, yeah, I know people

00:26:57.309 --> 00:27:01.369
are kind of both ways on that. Let's let's go

00:27:01.369 --> 00:27:03.329
ahead and keep religion in the household and

00:27:03.329 --> 00:27:07.029
out of the school. Either that or the counterpoint

00:27:07.029 --> 00:27:09.710
should be religious taught as an elective where

00:27:09.710 --> 00:27:11.650
they teach about all religions that are all the

00:27:11.650 --> 00:27:14.109
major ones. And just you touch upon it, be like,

00:27:14.170 --> 00:27:15.549
this is what it is. This is what they believe.

00:27:15.890 --> 00:27:18.990
All right, next one. And that's it. Yeah. You

00:27:18.990 --> 00:27:21.390
know, talk, talk about the values, the beliefs,

00:27:21.410 --> 00:27:25.319
the traditions, the. The different ceremonies,

00:27:25.519 --> 00:27:29.000
the different holidays, the different rituals

00:27:29.000 --> 00:27:32.339
and shit. Well, that'll get fun when you get

00:27:32.339 --> 00:27:35.500
to some of those. But that's why I feel like

00:27:35.500 --> 00:27:37.480
that kids should be a little older when you discuss

00:27:37.480 --> 00:27:39.559
sex and they can really understand. Absolutely.

00:27:39.680 --> 00:27:43.500
Because if you explain to like nine -year -olds

00:27:43.500 --> 00:27:46.680
some of this stuff, they're going to be like,

00:27:46.759 --> 00:27:48.720
why are you sacrificing a goat? None of this

00:27:48.720 --> 00:27:52.660
makes sense. But it's the symbolic nature for

00:27:52.660 --> 00:27:54.640
a lot of them that. They would have to understand

00:27:54.640 --> 00:27:56.000
when they're older. And I feel like that's one

00:27:56.000 --> 00:27:58.700
of the problems that they push a lot of concepts

00:27:58.700 --> 00:28:04.140
on kids that while kids are smart, they also

00:28:04.140 --> 00:28:05.759
need time to be able to understand fully that

00:28:05.759 --> 00:28:07.319
the ramifications of meaning for a lot of these

00:28:07.319 --> 00:28:11.400
things. So, you know, start with objective reality

00:28:11.400 --> 00:28:13.019
when they're younger and then slowly allow them

00:28:13.019 --> 00:28:16.539
to explore these topics as they get older. By

00:28:16.539 --> 00:28:19.119
the way, the reference for sacrificing the goat

00:28:19.119 --> 00:28:21.200
does not necessarily involve any of the religions

00:28:21.200 --> 00:28:24.720
that have the pentagram. Food for thought. That

00:28:24.720 --> 00:28:30.700
is in so many of them. Sacrificial stuff. It's

00:28:30.700 --> 00:28:34.059
in a lot of them. Why were humans so into that?

00:28:34.660 --> 00:28:37.640
I don't know. I think it was a way for some of

00:28:37.640 --> 00:28:40.200
them to get rid of their girlfriends. I don't

00:28:40.200 --> 00:28:44.200
know. If you can confuse your girlfriend with

00:28:44.200 --> 00:28:46.119
a goat, I don't have to tell you. Their goat

00:28:46.119 --> 00:28:47.980
was the girlfriend. I was trying not to go there.

00:28:48.579 --> 00:28:55.019
Oh, I will. But yeah, touching on the original

00:28:55.019 --> 00:28:57.299
foundation of the education system. You want

00:28:57.299 --> 00:28:59.559
to take the first part there? Yeah, absolutely.

00:29:00.160 --> 00:29:05.039
So in America, weird enough, our education system

00:29:05.039 --> 00:29:08.640
on its fundamental level really hasn't changed

00:29:08.640 --> 00:29:12.319
in like 300 years. Obviously, there's a lot of

00:29:12.319 --> 00:29:14.099
stuff now and every year there's more and more

00:29:14.099 --> 00:29:16.160
added to the curriculums and more topics, more

00:29:16.160 --> 00:29:19.119
stuff. But the base fundamentals haven't changed,

00:29:19.259 --> 00:29:22.900
which. in a way is good but a lot of ways really

00:29:22.900 --> 00:29:25.740
doesn't reflect the modern needs and requirements

00:29:25.740 --> 00:29:30.819
for education but anyways back before the revolution

00:29:30.819 --> 00:29:33.720
you know you're talking six 15 16th century when

00:29:33.720 --> 00:29:36.500
americans first land here there's a lot going

00:29:36.500 --> 00:29:38.039
on with education at this time to where number

00:29:38.039 --> 00:29:41.279
one education was very costly in terms of not

00:29:41.279 --> 00:29:43.640
only a financial cost but in terms of also material

00:29:43.640 --> 00:29:46.740
cost you can't necessarily just get a ton of

00:29:46.740 --> 00:29:49.400
parchment a ton of paper you know a ton of ink

00:29:49.400 --> 00:29:52.039
anything like that as well as people to actually

00:29:52.039 --> 00:29:53.880
teach these topics there were very often a lot

00:29:53.880 --> 00:29:55.920
of schools that would you know have a couple

00:29:55.920 --> 00:29:58.400
of teachers a couple of instructors but also

00:29:58.400 --> 00:30:00.619
they were only located near major cities major

00:30:00.619 --> 00:30:02.640
areas you might have a local school in a village

00:30:02.640 --> 00:30:04.819
but they're only going to teach things like basic

00:30:04.819 --> 00:30:07.880
writing reading math reading right and that's

00:30:07.880 --> 00:30:10.660
and that that's basically it you know maybe you'll

00:30:10.660 --> 00:30:12.599
learn some things like how to farm and how to

00:30:12.599 --> 00:30:14.759
do some other stuff but really you'll go to school

00:30:14.759 --> 00:30:16.059
for a couple hours during the day and then go

00:30:16.059 --> 00:30:18.029
home and help your family on the farm Or help

00:30:18.029 --> 00:30:20.170
your family with whatever profession they had.

00:30:20.730 --> 00:30:23.589
And keep in mind that the schoolhouses of those

00:30:23.589 --> 00:30:26.970
days were combined. So kindergarten through senior,

00:30:27.049 --> 00:30:31.009
essentially. But it was more what eighth or ninth

00:30:31.009 --> 00:30:32.789
grade would have been the equivalent, like highest

00:30:32.789 --> 00:30:35.009
level. Yeah, something like that. I mean, you

00:30:35.009 --> 00:30:36.630
would have some kids that would maybe stay a

00:30:36.630 --> 00:30:37.849
little bit later, depending on what their family

00:30:37.849 --> 00:30:40.069
does or how close they were or what they needed.

00:30:41.130 --> 00:30:43.890
But also back then, it was also seen as a privilege

00:30:43.890 --> 00:30:47.269
to go. Like not every kid could go. There were

00:30:47.269 --> 00:30:50.130
a lot of kids that they couldn't afford to get

00:30:50.130 --> 00:30:52.549
there in terms of time or maybe they didn't have

00:30:52.549 --> 00:30:55.190
boots or they didn't have a backpack or they

00:30:55.190 --> 00:30:57.230
didn't have any way to move materials or learn

00:30:57.230 --> 00:30:59.829
or do whatever or if the kids maybe just couldn't

00:30:59.829 --> 00:31:04.009
handle it. It wasn't like every kid in a village

00:31:04.009 --> 00:31:05.309
was required to go. It's not like how it is today

00:31:05.309 --> 00:31:08.670
where the kid goes, they get schooling. There's

00:31:08.670 --> 00:31:11.609
no ifs, ands, or buts about it. Back then it

00:31:11.609 --> 00:31:15.109
was an opportunity and many people really tried

00:31:15.109 --> 00:31:18.609
to grasp that. But again, it was very simplified

00:31:18.609 --> 00:31:21.829
compared to what we see today. Something to consider

00:31:21.829 --> 00:31:24.690
is that the Puritans that kind of came to America

00:31:24.690 --> 00:31:26.410
that really fled from Europe, one of the things

00:31:26.410 --> 00:31:28.670
that they fled from England, one of the things

00:31:28.670 --> 00:31:31.349
they did recognize was that education in England

00:31:31.349 --> 00:31:34.970
at the time was a very much class -based thing

00:31:34.970 --> 00:31:38.369
where the less educated people really couldn't

00:31:38.369 --> 00:31:39.789
get an education. There wasn't really anywhere

00:31:39.789 --> 00:31:41.150
to start. There wasn't really anywhere to go.

00:31:41.190 --> 00:31:42.869
It was very difficult to get something to actually

00:31:42.869 --> 00:31:45.609
make something of yourself. That is one of the

00:31:45.609 --> 00:31:48.529
fundamental founding, I guess, core principles

00:31:48.529 --> 00:31:51.309
that America was started with from this was the

00:31:51.309 --> 00:31:54.470
idea in the Puritan idea or the Quaker idea,

00:31:54.609 --> 00:31:56.130
whichever way you want to talk about when those

00:31:56.130 --> 00:31:58.970
Americans came over, was that they wanted to

00:31:58.970 --> 00:32:00.390
give that access to everyone in the community

00:32:00.390 --> 00:32:02.789
that could access to it. They're like, hey, if

00:32:02.789 --> 00:32:06.829
you vote, I know, right? It's these kids were

00:32:06.829 --> 00:32:09.210
allowed to go and get the education that could

00:32:09.210 --> 00:32:12.789
be provided to them. Obviously, it wasn't top

00:32:12.789 --> 00:32:16.190
class. You know, it wasn't. um you know harvard

00:32:16.190 --> 00:32:19.269
but it was good enough to where there were many

00:32:19.269 --> 00:32:21.069
people that were able to be educated at least

00:32:21.069 --> 00:32:24.789
to be semi or decently literate and understand

00:32:24.789 --> 00:32:27.869
basic math and for most any job back then or

00:32:27.869 --> 00:32:30.269
anything that you were trying to do that's what

00:32:30.269 --> 00:32:32.289
you needed that was all you needed yeah that's

00:32:32.289 --> 00:32:34.309
all that was enough that was enough education

00:32:34.309 --> 00:32:37.569
to be able to start a business or work a job

00:32:37.569 --> 00:32:42.430
oh absolutely more or less And it was really

00:32:42.430 --> 00:32:44.549
required because it's not like in America you

00:32:44.549 --> 00:32:46.450
were expecting a ton of more people to show up.

00:32:47.049 --> 00:32:49.390
Back then it was, hey, we're founding this place.

00:32:49.450 --> 00:32:51.809
We're running it. We're starting this colony.

00:32:52.490 --> 00:32:54.150
We're going to need people eventually to be able

00:32:54.150 --> 00:32:56.329
to expand and do more. So they did push more

00:32:56.329 --> 00:32:59.630
than a lot of other countries to push this education.

00:33:01.210 --> 00:33:05.329
Now, here's where we start seeing some changes.

00:33:05.990 --> 00:33:09.049
So the Revolutionary War happens. We separate

00:33:09.049 --> 00:33:12.339
from England. We become our own country. After

00:33:12.339 --> 00:33:14.660
the Articles of Confederation. Exactly. After

00:33:14.660 --> 00:33:16.039
the Articles of Confederation and everything,

00:33:16.180 --> 00:33:19.119
we become a country. And what happens is our

00:33:19.119 --> 00:33:21.339
major cities start to grow. They start becoming

00:33:21.339 --> 00:33:23.619
bigger and bigger. So now we start developing

00:33:23.619 --> 00:33:26.960
universities. We start copying kind of what England

00:33:26.960 --> 00:33:29.740
does and start becoming one of the knowledge

00:33:29.740 --> 00:33:32.079
centers of the world. Obviously, we still couldn't

00:33:32.079 --> 00:33:36.200
compare at the time to London or Paris or Frankfurt

00:33:36.200 --> 00:33:39.430
or any one of the European, but... we had a lot

00:33:39.430 --> 00:33:41.109
of people that were interested in the new country

00:33:41.109 --> 00:33:45.190
and the new world coming over here. So what basically

00:33:45.190 --> 00:33:47.809
happens at this point, we have basically most

00:33:47.809 --> 00:33:50.049
of that 19th century leading up until the 1890s

00:33:50.049 --> 00:33:54.849
where the American influence on education started

00:33:54.849 --> 00:33:57.450
to become a thing to where they're looking at

00:33:57.450 --> 00:34:00.130
what we're doing in America. Even in small things,

00:34:00.190 --> 00:34:02.750
small inventions, new types of materials, new

00:34:02.750 --> 00:34:05.970
types of assemblies. Because we have all this

00:34:05.970 --> 00:34:08.690
available land, We start setting the standard

00:34:08.690 --> 00:34:11.909
for things. And this is where the 1890s, what's

00:34:11.909 --> 00:34:13.469
widely considered in history as the Gilded Age,

00:34:13.550 --> 00:34:17.070
the idea that America now starts to become the

00:34:17.070 --> 00:34:19.750
leader in certain different areas of manufacturing

00:34:19.750 --> 00:34:23.150
and technology. This is where we start pulling

00:34:23.150 --> 00:34:28.289
a lot of very well -educated people into the

00:34:28.289 --> 00:34:30.010
country because people are trying to start businesses.

00:34:30.269 --> 00:34:32.489
They're trying to build more railways. We're

00:34:32.489 --> 00:34:34.530
just starting to see automobiles being actually

00:34:34.530 --> 00:34:37.570
developed in manufacturing. Not on a big scale,

00:34:37.610 --> 00:34:39.909
not until Henry Ford, but these are things that

00:34:39.909 --> 00:34:41.309
are all quickly, you know, steam technology.

00:34:43.949 --> 00:34:48.010
They're all quickly happening. And America is

00:34:48.010 --> 00:34:51.889
at the forefront of it now. So we have this massive

00:34:51.889 --> 00:34:55.050
influx of all of these well -off, educated people

00:34:55.050 --> 00:34:57.289
from other countries. Now here's where you get

00:34:57.289 --> 00:34:59.829
that melting pot idea that really starts to circulate.

00:34:59.869 --> 00:35:02.369
We have all these smart people, all these universities

00:35:02.369 --> 00:35:08.489
going up. All of this stuff happening. But what

00:35:08.489 --> 00:35:13.250
they realize is America does not need more thinkers.

00:35:13.409 --> 00:35:16.570
They need more doers. And this is where the education

00:35:16.570 --> 00:35:19.789
starts to switch. One of the biggest problems

00:35:19.789 --> 00:35:22.750
they are now seeing in the 1890s to early 1900s,

00:35:22.750 --> 00:35:26.349
even to like 1910, is, wow, we have all these

00:35:26.349 --> 00:35:29.250
people that can think and do stuff, but the problem

00:35:29.250 --> 00:35:31.349
is they're not doing what we want them to do.

00:35:31.969 --> 00:35:34.570
They are not able to handle being in a factory

00:35:34.570 --> 00:35:38.159
for 15, 10 hours a day. A lot of times people

00:35:38.159 --> 00:35:39.960
work in 70, 80 -hour work weeks, and that was

00:35:39.960 --> 00:35:42.500
considered Monday through Sunday. That's what

00:35:42.500 --> 00:35:45.219
they did. You go to work to survive, to pay,

00:35:45.280 --> 00:35:47.460
to have some sort of living somewhere. You go

00:35:47.460 --> 00:35:48.780
home, you eat, you spend time with your family,

00:35:48.800 --> 00:35:50.579
you sleep, and that's it. That is your life.

00:35:51.320 --> 00:35:53.820
This is before any sort of working laws and any

00:35:53.820 --> 00:35:56.219
before workers' rights. We're not even into the

00:35:56.219 --> 00:35:59.519
1950s or 60s yet before that. You are talking

00:35:59.519 --> 00:36:02.820
long, hard work days. But what they wanted to

00:36:02.820 --> 00:36:05.300
do is get people that could be good factory workers.

00:36:06.380 --> 00:36:10.039
And when Henry Ford introduced the assembly line

00:36:10.039 --> 00:36:12.000
concept, the idea that you're responsible for

00:36:12.000 --> 00:36:13.780
that one little part and you get really good

00:36:13.780 --> 00:36:16.780
and really quick at doing that one thing, that

00:36:16.780 --> 00:36:20.679
is where people said, oh, if this is going to

00:36:20.679 --> 00:36:25.699
be the new standard for factories and manufacturing,

00:36:25.940 --> 00:36:27.440
which was by far what the biggest thing America

00:36:27.440 --> 00:36:31.199
did up until like the 80s and 70s, then I guess

00:36:31.199 --> 00:36:34.019
we should train people for that. So the biggest

00:36:34.019 --> 00:36:36.769
schools that received a lot of funding, particularly

00:36:36.769 --> 00:36:40.010
from kickbacks and from taxes coming from the

00:36:40.010 --> 00:36:43.789
automobile sector, they went into the education

00:36:43.789 --> 00:36:47.809
system. They started funding local schools. They

00:36:47.809 --> 00:36:49.469
started even doing apprenticeships and other

00:36:49.469 --> 00:36:51.429
programs with local universities and colleges.

00:36:51.690 --> 00:36:54.969
So now everything gets centered around this manufacturing

00:36:54.969 --> 00:36:59.349
concept. Not 100 % of everything, but the vast

00:36:59.349 --> 00:37:03.130
majority. So the paradigm switches from before

00:37:03.130 --> 00:37:06.769
1900, 1910, before that it was how to make a

00:37:06.769 --> 00:37:09.849
functioning citizen that can do the right thing

00:37:09.849 --> 00:37:12.230
and do something for the community. Now it's

00:37:12.230 --> 00:37:17.690
how do we make an obedient worker that is okay

00:37:17.690 --> 00:37:22.869
with doing this? You know, about 150 years ago,

00:37:22.909 --> 00:37:25.250
we had a different name for those type of folks.

00:37:30.349 --> 00:37:35.190
I'm just observing what has happened. I'm not

00:37:35.190 --> 00:37:37.449
going to disagree with you, though. Obedient

00:37:37.449 --> 00:37:45.110
workers, huh? Hey. Okay. Not my words. Not my

00:37:45.110 --> 00:37:51.769
words. So. Well. Well. You have to realize, too,

00:37:51.869 --> 00:37:54.969
indentured slavery was actually legal up until

00:37:54.969 --> 00:37:58.269
the 1920s, 30s, even 40s. It was one of the things

00:37:58.269 --> 00:38:00.170
that got rid of slavery. But then what they did

00:38:00.170 --> 00:38:03.090
is they would pay them down south. But their

00:38:03.090 --> 00:38:05.469
payment, their pay would be the exact same that

00:38:05.469 --> 00:38:08.409
they would owe in rent. So it was indentured

00:38:08.409 --> 00:38:14.190
servitude. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Trying to force people

00:38:14.190 --> 00:38:18.670
to come to the country under the guise of, oh,

00:38:18.670 --> 00:38:21.489
yeah, we'll cover all your expenses to come here.

00:38:23.230 --> 00:38:27.760
No. It was the Nigerian scam of the 1940s is

00:38:27.760 --> 00:38:29.880
what it was. Yep. Where do you think they learned

00:38:29.880 --> 00:38:34.059
it from? The Nigerians learned it from the Portuguese

00:38:34.059 --> 00:38:36.159
after all the slave trade they did. I was going

00:38:36.159 --> 00:38:38.000
to say, did somebody else teach the Nigerians

00:38:38.000 --> 00:38:40.119
that they just took it and ran? Well, they took

00:38:40.119 --> 00:38:41.440
it and ran. Like, hey, if it worked on us, it'll

00:38:41.440 --> 00:38:48.380
work on you. My father felt for that. That's

00:38:48.380 --> 00:38:52.719
Jamaican. I can't do a Nigerian accent. In my

00:38:52.719 --> 00:38:54.679
mind, I thought I could nail it and I butchered

00:38:54.679 --> 00:38:57.079
it and I should be ashamed of it. We'll give

00:38:57.079 --> 00:39:02.380
you a pass on it. It's fine. I don't have it

00:39:02.380 --> 00:39:05.659
in the notes, but Ford was the one that came

00:39:05.659 --> 00:39:07.940
up with the 40 -hour work week, didn't he? So

00:39:07.940 --> 00:39:11.320
this is where I'm also getting into. He was somebody

00:39:11.320 --> 00:39:15.119
that was looking at productivity and efficiency

00:39:15.119 --> 00:39:20.500
and what they had found. was the idea of the

00:39:20.500 --> 00:39:25.739
40 -hour work week was the most efficient for

00:39:25.739 --> 00:39:29.380
their workers. Something else Ford did was interesting

00:39:29.380 --> 00:39:33.659
is he also had much higher pay for his factory

00:39:33.659 --> 00:39:36.320
workers. So what happens? Now all of a sudden,

00:39:36.420 --> 00:39:40.300
you're talking, this is like 1920s, 1930s. Now

00:39:40.300 --> 00:39:42.159
all of a sudden people are thinking, wow, I can

00:39:42.159 --> 00:39:45.659
go work at Ford, work 40 hours a week, and make

00:39:45.659 --> 00:39:49.570
like... 20 30 even 50 percent more than working

00:39:49.570 --> 00:39:53.710
at a competitor the entire shift of the manufacturing

00:39:53.710 --> 00:39:55.250
in terms of the automotive industry goes straight

00:39:55.250 --> 00:39:58.809
towards ford that is why ford made so much during

00:39:58.809 --> 00:40:01.429
world war ii because they owned so many factories

00:40:01.429 --> 00:40:05.329
and they had so much power industrially because

00:40:05.329 --> 00:40:08.710
that massive lines were easily converted to war

00:40:08.710 --> 00:40:11.090
materials because everyone just had to get good

00:40:11.090 --> 00:40:14.000
at one thing This isn't like, so what people

00:40:14.000 --> 00:40:15.519
can understand is back then with automobiles

00:40:15.519 --> 00:40:18.039
and really a lot of stuff, the term coach built

00:40:18.039 --> 00:40:23.380
today usually means it's like customized. One

00:40:23.380 --> 00:40:25.559
person does all the thing, or maybe one person

00:40:25.559 --> 00:40:27.500
does all of one type of thing. So one person

00:40:27.500 --> 00:40:30.000
does all of the leather work. Somebody does all

00:40:30.000 --> 00:40:32.659
the mechanic work. A lot of high end manufacturers

00:40:32.659 --> 00:40:34.380
still do this day, like Ferrari, for example.

00:40:34.829 --> 00:40:36.610
They'll have one person build the entire engine

00:40:36.610 --> 00:40:38.670
and sign off on it. One person does the entire

00:40:38.670 --> 00:40:40.909
interior, they sign off on it. That used to be

00:40:40.909 --> 00:40:44.090
the way all cars were made before Ford. So the

00:40:44.090 --> 00:40:46.570
idea was they hired a small group of people that

00:40:46.570 --> 00:40:49.610
were very good at what they did. Because there

00:40:49.610 --> 00:40:52.030
are 5 ,000 other people maybe in that city that

00:40:52.030 --> 00:40:54.590
can build motors. They might just need a handful.

00:40:54.929 --> 00:40:57.670
But vice versa, they can only build a handful

00:40:57.670 --> 00:41:00.869
of motors a day. Whereas Ford, you can pump out

00:41:00.869 --> 00:41:03.780
thousands. And all those people do one really

00:41:03.780 --> 00:41:10.199
good job. So now with that industry switch, you

00:41:10.199 --> 00:41:13.639
have tens of thousands of hundreds of thousands

00:41:13.639 --> 00:41:15.460
of people saying, I want to work for Ford. I

00:41:15.460 --> 00:41:17.860
want to work in this setup. And now everyone

00:41:17.860 --> 00:41:19.980
else has to compete. And everyone else is looking

00:41:19.980 --> 00:41:22.079
and saying, wow, Ford was able to cut costs and

00:41:22.079 --> 00:41:25.019
produce better revenue, but then also give these

00:41:25.019 --> 00:41:26.900
people other bonuses. Like Ford was giving them

00:41:26.900 --> 00:41:29.139
company vehicles. Sometimes they were giving

00:41:29.139 --> 00:41:32.300
them things like, you know, vacations. which

00:41:32.300 --> 00:41:35.059
was never freaking heard of until that point.

00:41:35.980 --> 00:41:39.699
So by switching all of that, it really did focus

00:41:39.699 --> 00:41:42.820
on the U S educational system on, well, clearly

00:41:42.820 --> 00:41:44.960
that's going to be the future. Clearly that's

00:41:44.960 --> 00:41:45.980
going to be what people are going to need to

00:41:45.980 --> 00:41:47.480
be. We don't need people starting businesses.

00:41:47.639 --> 00:41:49.280
We need people to be able to work within the

00:41:49.280 --> 00:41:52.840
system from a nine to five, sit down, do this

00:41:52.840 --> 00:41:58.059
one job. Unfortunately, what that means is we

00:41:58.059 --> 00:42:04.360
switched from having a, more organic or what's

00:42:04.360 --> 00:42:06.699
considered the Montessori type structure for

00:42:06.699 --> 00:42:09.039
education, which is kind of working with the

00:42:09.039 --> 00:42:10.460
child to see what they want to do and what they're

00:42:10.460 --> 00:42:13.179
interested in to, Hey, this is a very structured,

00:42:13.239 --> 00:42:16.000
organized. You come in, you clock in for education,

00:42:16.300 --> 00:42:19.440
you work up, you have your designated lunch hour

00:42:19.440 --> 00:42:22.500
and that, or lunch in my case, 20 minutes, 15

00:42:22.500 --> 00:42:25.219
minutes at school, which is bullshit by the way,

00:42:25.280 --> 00:42:28.099
just saying. Um, and then you clock back in,

00:42:28.139 --> 00:42:30.460
you work till the rest of the day. And that's,

00:42:31.099 --> 00:42:34.300
Worthy enough, where a lot of our modern educational

00:42:34.300 --> 00:42:38.159
structure comes from. Which, I don't know about

00:42:38.159 --> 00:42:40.159
you, but in most any job I've worked at, because

00:42:40.159 --> 00:42:43.239
I've never worked in a factory, but in most other

00:42:43.239 --> 00:42:46.239
jobs I've ever worked at, it's never structured

00:42:46.239 --> 00:42:50.019
like that. I don't know about you, but I know

00:42:50.019 --> 00:42:51.940
you kind of work an interesting job, but for

00:42:51.940 --> 00:42:54.460
me it's the case of, it seems like the way the

00:42:54.460 --> 00:42:56.599
education system was based on that factory system,

00:42:56.860 --> 00:43:02.219
it's not really that prevalent today. So, some

00:43:02.219 --> 00:43:09.380
of the jobs I've had, 12 -hour overnights, and

00:43:09.380 --> 00:43:11.239
it was eight hours before I could take a lunch,

00:43:11.380 --> 00:43:17.340
and my lunch could get interrupted 10 minutes

00:43:17.340 --> 00:43:26.239
into it. Working in the freezer, where it was

00:43:26.239 --> 00:43:29.159
negative 15. The majority of the time, the warm

00:43:29.159 --> 00:43:32.340
side was 34 degrees. Wasn't so bad over there.

00:43:32.940 --> 00:43:37.280
It was a little cold. Well, the cooler wasn't

00:43:37.280 --> 00:43:41.079
that bad. But the freezer sucked. I was miserable

00:43:41.079 --> 00:43:43.579
there. The people I worked with were amazing.

00:43:44.460 --> 00:43:48.579
They made that job worth going to. And I mean,

00:43:48.579 --> 00:43:51.500
like, everybody. The management, the guys I worked

00:43:51.500 --> 00:43:55.059
on the floor with, they made that place. And

00:43:55.059 --> 00:43:57.340
even the hour 20 minutes each direction drive,

00:43:57.639 --> 00:44:01.559
they made it worth going. I made one of the best

00:44:01.559 --> 00:44:04.820
friends in my life working there, and we carpooled.

00:44:10.619 --> 00:44:15.460
Lunches there were pretty reassuringly safe.

00:44:16.599 --> 00:44:19.099
We tried to keep them to about 20, 25 minutes,

00:44:19.219 --> 00:44:23.400
but when you took it, it was maybe hit and miss

00:44:23.400 --> 00:44:29.980
sometimes. Since then, it's been pretty strict.

00:44:30.400 --> 00:44:32.420
You know, hey, I'm on lunch. Don't bother me.

00:44:33.119 --> 00:44:37.920
Yeah. The place I'm at now, it's to the point

00:44:37.920 --> 00:44:41.119
where you can kind of go when you want, how you

00:44:41.119 --> 00:44:43.820
want, and that's all that I'm going to say on

00:44:43.820 --> 00:44:46.659
that. Yeah. At least in my experience with most

00:44:46.659 --> 00:44:48.239
any job I've ever had, granted, I've always been

00:44:48.239 --> 00:44:49.980
more management type roles and a few other things.

00:44:50.780 --> 00:44:53.139
It's kind of whenever you get a chance, whenever

00:44:53.139 --> 00:44:56.110
you want. I can get up at any time I want. have

00:44:56.110 --> 00:44:59.449
something to eat or do stuff oh yeah like the

00:44:59.449 --> 00:45:03.789
the place i'm at now they they say they promote

00:45:03.789 --> 00:45:07.289
personal wellness so they encourage you to get

00:45:07.289 --> 00:45:17.170
up and kind of take a walk but you know it just

00:45:17.170 --> 00:45:21.409
doesn't always happen yeah no which i get but

00:45:21.409 --> 00:45:22.829
i feel like there's a lot of jobs now they're

00:45:22.829 --> 00:45:25.250
a lot looser with requirements as to compared

00:45:25.250 --> 00:45:32.550
to some of the more upbeat, modern, younger person

00:45:32.550 --> 00:45:39.309
ran jobs, places like Google. Uh, you know, my,

00:45:39.429 --> 00:45:42.690
one of my, my, my best friend, she works at Google.

00:45:42.989 --> 00:45:47.710
She talks about how they have entire like chill

00:45:47.710 --> 00:45:52.250
rooms with like switches and computers and just

00:45:52.250 --> 00:45:56.159
like, relaxing chairs, massage chairs. I think

00:45:56.159 --> 00:46:00.260
she said they're in there. It's a very relaxed

00:46:00.260 --> 00:46:03.760
space. Those are companies that are hyper -focused

00:46:03.760 --> 00:46:08.039
on efficiency. Yes. So that's taking the forward

00:46:08.039 --> 00:46:11.320
idea of efficiency to the extreme, where the

00:46:11.320 --> 00:46:14.079
idea is if they're a company that needs ideas

00:46:14.079 --> 00:46:16.739
and efficient work, they're going to put the

00:46:16.739 --> 00:46:21.480
employee comfort as a very high priority. Yeah,

00:46:21.500 --> 00:46:25.280
because for some comfortable employee blood flow

00:46:25.280 --> 00:46:30.039
does make the ideas flow. Yeah. I agree with

00:46:30.039 --> 00:46:33.539
that. Yeah. But here's an important thing for

00:46:33.539 --> 00:46:35.699
education that I wanted to point out that I was

00:46:35.699 --> 00:46:39.420
kind of building to up until the 1950s after

00:46:39.420 --> 00:46:44.059
World War Two. Being an educator wasn't necessarily

00:46:44.059 --> 00:46:46.159
something that you went to school for in terms

00:46:46.159 --> 00:46:49.489
of at the elementary high school level. A lot

00:46:49.489 --> 00:46:50.909
of times there's a poll for people in the community

00:46:50.909 --> 00:46:53.530
that were either knowledgeable, that had maybe

00:46:53.530 --> 00:46:56.809
some backgrounds and various things, but it wasn't

00:46:56.809 --> 00:47:00.150
always people that had a degree in education

00:47:00.150 --> 00:47:05.610
necessarily. But post -World War II came the

00:47:05.610 --> 00:47:09.269
big push for people to get degrees because coming

00:47:09.269 --> 00:47:10.789
out of World War II, the people that were making

00:47:10.789 --> 00:47:12.829
big money were things like doctors, lawyers,

00:47:13.150 --> 00:47:17.449
people that had to get degrees and be specialized.

00:47:18.320 --> 00:47:21.219
and this is where it became the big push for

00:47:21.219 --> 00:47:24.219
people to get educated that is when we started

00:47:24.219 --> 00:47:25.820
making laws about everyone had to go to school

00:47:25.820 --> 00:47:30.579
this is where they started changing fundamentally

00:47:30.579 --> 00:47:33.820
that teachers then had to be doing it as a career

00:47:33.820 --> 00:47:37.300
where they had to get a degree in education and

00:47:37.300 --> 00:47:41.900
this is where things start to shift to where

00:47:41.900 --> 00:47:45.239
you start having people that never maybe they

00:47:45.239 --> 00:47:47.159
never worked another job in their life other

00:47:47.159 --> 00:47:51.139
than in education they might not have those life

00:47:51.139 --> 00:47:54.239
skills to contribute or other perspectives to

00:47:54.239 --> 00:47:56.420
come from and what happens is looking in the

00:47:56.420 --> 00:47:58.619
60s and 70s that's when the first wave of people

00:47:58.619 --> 00:48:00.980
you know are brought up in the education system

00:48:00.980 --> 00:48:04.500
they go to college to become an educator and

00:48:04.500 --> 00:48:07.119
then they start educating other kids and they

00:48:07.119 --> 00:48:09.900
start educating kids so the weird thing is this

00:48:09.900 --> 00:48:12.900
becomes a cycle of you have people i'm not saying

00:48:12.900 --> 00:48:16.000
this for every educator at all but it becomes

00:48:16.000 --> 00:48:20.940
a cycle to where It is very much promoted to

00:48:20.940 --> 00:48:25.519
go into education, get these degrees, get involved

00:48:25.519 --> 00:48:28.980
in academia, but not necessarily have other things

00:48:28.980 --> 00:48:33.260
to pull from to then teach children. And then

00:48:33.260 --> 00:48:35.579
what happens is they take those ideas and run

00:48:35.579 --> 00:48:37.840
with it. They become teachers. It kind of becomes

00:48:37.840 --> 00:48:39.960
this revolving door of these same ideas getting

00:48:39.960 --> 00:48:44.219
pushed further and further along. What I'm hinting

00:48:44.219 --> 00:48:47.739
at here. There are certain political concepts

00:48:47.739 --> 00:48:50.599
under the ideas, you know, like socialism, communism,

00:48:50.659 --> 00:48:54.320
and a few other things that were spoken about

00:48:54.320 --> 00:48:57.019
really as kind of concepts. Because you have

00:48:57.019 --> 00:48:59.000
to realize, in the 1950s, you're talking this

00:48:59.000 --> 00:49:02.320
post -World War II. America at the time, you're

00:49:02.320 --> 00:49:03.900
talking about like the Red Wave and stuff like

00:49:03.900 --> 00:49:06.920
that and the Red Scare, where we were persecuting

00:49:06.920 --> 00:49:11.119
political opponents and politicians for the idea

00:49:11.119 --> 00:49:14.500
of being a communist sympathizer or social sympathizer.

00:49:15.239 --> 00:49:17.260
and so a lot of these colleges were having these

00:49:17.260 --> 00:49:20.860
this was considered radical at the time to have

00:49:20.860 --> 00:49:24.400
a discussion about communism and socialism because

00:49:24.400 --> 00:49:26.219
these people have been brought up from this idea

00:49:26.219 --> 00:49:28.380
of the oh they're the enemy they're the combatants

00:49:28.380 --> 00:49:30.500
they're you know causing a lot of issues you

00:49:30.500 --> 00:49:34.739
know they should be dealt with whereas these

00:49:34.739 --> 00:49:36.559
colleges are now having these open discussions

00:49:36.559 --> 00:49:40.179
and some teachers Who maybe some of them have

00:49:40.179 --> 00:49:41.880
maybe served in these wars, you know, between,

00:49:41.900 --> 00:49:44.300
you know, World War II or Korea or even Vietnam.

00:49:44.900 --> 00:49:46.840
Maybe they saw the atrocities of war. Maybe they

00:49:46.840 --> 00:49:49.420
blame the U .S. Maybe they look at, you know,

00:49:49.420 --> 00:49:52.460
my country sent me from a capitalist, you know,

00:49:52.460 --> 00:49:56.460
democracy, democratic republic. And I blame having

00:49:56.460 --> 00:49:58.179
to go over there and they start having negative

00:49:58.179 --> 00:50:01.480
views on us. And they start to see the atrocities

00:50:01.480 --> 00:50:04.639
that rightfully so we committed and we shouldn't

00:50:04.639 --> 00:50:06.690
have. You're talking about all the people that

00:50:06.690 --> 00:50:10.230
were massacred in Korea and Vietnam. All the

00:50:10.230 --> 00:50:12.250
people that, you know, between the murder of

00:50:12.250 --> 00:50:15.429
the women and children in some cases, the Agent

00:50:15.429 --> 00:50:18.010
Orange. There's a long list of things that we

00:50:18.010 --> 00:50:21.670
did that truly were horrific. But that gave some

00:50:21.670 --> 00:50:23.449
credence in a lot of these areas to, wow, you

00:50:23.449 --> 00:50:27.690
know, maybe Western society is the problem. Maybe

00:50:27.690 --> 00:50:31.010
communism and socialism is a solution. And then

00:50:31.010 --> 00:50:35.070
kind of comes this idea in academia. to where

00:50:35.070 --> 00:50:40.530
modern Republican Republican sorry Democratic

00:50:40.530 --> 00:50:44.869
Republic's are the issue and Socialism communism

00:50:44.869 --> 00:50:48.570
could be the solution and then that percolates

00:50:48.570 --> 00:50:54.250
down into modern academia to our now I hate to

00:50:54.250 --> 00:50:57.550
say it there are so many cases of teachers and

00:50:57.550 --> 00:51:00.650
Educators whether it be elementary school middle

00:51:00.650 --> 00:51:03.369
school high school college level doesn't matter

00:51:04.440 --> 00:51:08.619
being devout communists or socialists and really

00:51:08.619 --> 00:51:10.739
denouncing the country that gave them the option

00:51:10.739 --> 00:51:13.639
to be able to become an educator. There are many

00:51:13.639 --> 00:51:15.820
of them that are so removed from the reality

00:51:15.820 --> 00:51:19.519
of even the existence of other countries, what

00:51:19.519 --> 00:51:21.760
they have to go through. And the only reason

00:51:21.760 --> 00:51:27.519
I bring this up is now we have a problem in this

00:51:27.519 --> 00:51:31.500
country of teachers that lack life skills. The

00:51:31.500 --> 00:51:33.590
amount of people that I met. Became teachers

00:51:33.590 --> 00:51:35.789
because their parents were teachers and their

00:51:35.789 --> 00:51:37.210
grandparents were teachers and that's great.

00:51:37.369 --> 00:51:44.690
I like that but if all you've ever known is Teaching

00:51:44.690 --> 00:51:47.050
other people these skills or things you've been

00:51:47.050 --> 00:51:50.969
told or regurgitate without ever having any life

00:51:50.969 --> 00:51:53.670
skills or experiences of your own to be able

00:51:53.670 --> 00:51:56.949
to kind of pull from and Then also having a teachers

00:51:56.949 --> 00:52:01.199
union that tells you how to vote and having curriculums

00:52:01.199 --> 00:52:05.340
that inherently are politically biased, it creates

00:52:05.340 --> 00:52:09.099
this weird recursive problem of everything you

00:52:09.099 --> 00:52:12.719
see, every single book, textbook, questions,

00:52:13.019 --> 00:52:15.900
curriculum, everything is all slanted one direction.

00:52:17.800 --> 00:52:20.360
And then they wonder why our education system

00:52:20.360 --> 00:52:22.940
inherently doesn't work, or it's not very effective.

00:52:23.119 --> 00:52:25.599
It's because, well, unfortunately, it's so involved

00:52:25.599 --> 00:52:28.039
in pushing politics at a level that it doesn't

00:52:28.039 --> 00:52:30.829
understand. There were things that I saw in the

00:52:30.829 --> 00:52:32.610
education system, they wouldn't even understand

00:52:32.610 --> 00:52:34.690
how biased it is because to them it's considered

00:52:34.690 --> 00:52:40.590
a fact. I remember in history trying to talk

00:52:40.590 --> 00:52:44.650
about the Reagan presidency in a very objective

00:52:44.650 --> 00:52:47.250
fashion. Because in my opinion, he's actually

00:52:47.250 --> 00:52:50.869
not a very good conservative president. Because

00:52:50.869 --> 00:52:56.230
he uptaxes several of those years. He put in

00:52:56.230 --> 00:52:59.579
some... Honestly, not very good gun laws, firearms

00:52:59.579 --> 00:53:02.539
laws and anti Second Amendment stuff. And he

00:53:02.539 --> 00:53:05.960
didn't really do much in terms of actually affecting

00:53:05.960 --> 00:53:09.179
the drug warfare. They made things worse. And

00:53:09.179 --> 00:53:10.780
those are kind of things where in talking about

00:53:10.780 --> 00:53:12.099
personal liberties and freedoms, he actually

00:53:12.099 --> 00:53:13.599
didn't really respect those. He actually decided

00:53:13.599 --> 00:53:15.679
more of a collectivist idea, which is a little

00:53:15.679 --> 00:53:18.880
bit more of a California Democrat idea, which

00:53:18.880 --> 00:53:20.320
didn't he come from California? If I remember

00:53:20.320 --> 00:53:22.199
correctly, he kind of took a lot of it. So this

00:53:22.199 --> 00:53:25.750
is kind of where I'm going, where he was a. Republican,

00:53:25.750 --> 00:53:27.829
conservative, but he's not really in terms of

00:53:27.829 --> 00:53:30.829
actual policy. He did it for a couple of things,

00:53:30.909 --> 00:53:34.789
but overall his legacy really isn't. But when

00:53:34.789 --> 00:53:36.650
I try to discuss this in a very objective way,

00:53:36.809 --> 00:53:39.969
they say, well, no, of course he's this, or of

00:53:39.969 --> 00:53:41.369
course he's that. It's like, well, but if you

00:53:41.369 --> 00:53:44.210
look at it objectively and take all the facts

00:53:44.210 --> 00:53:46.530
down and actually understand of it, it's very

00:53:46.530 --> 00:53:51.929
different. A lot of people who are so ingrained

00:53:51.929 --> 00:53:56.440
in their thought process, are incapable of objective

00:53:56.440 --> 00:54:01.940
thought. And also, before I forget it, and Zoidberg's

00:54:01.940 --> 00:54:06.679
out of my head, one other point of making all

00:54:06.679 --> 00:54:10.159
the kids go to school is they can institute tax

00:54:10.159 --> 00:54:12.199
policies to get money out of all the parents.

00:54:16.239 --> 00:54:18.880
Well, not only that, but they also have complete

00:54:18.880 --> 00:54:22.250
control of what your kids learn. Yeah. And that's

00:54:22.250 --> 00:54:23.909
true. They can extort your taxes. They can put

00:54:23.909 --> 00:54:25.449
in property tax and say, oh yeah, this has to

00:54:25.449 --> 00:54:27.369
go to pay the school. Whether it goes to pay

00:54:27.369 --> 00:54:29.650
the school or not is irrelevant because most

00:54:29.650 --> 00:54:33.030
parents have no way of knowing. You can't follow

00:54:33.030 --> 00:54:35.489
up with your local department. As we're finding

00:54:35.489 --> 00:54:38.230
out, the government does not know how to spend

00:54:38.230 --> 00:54:45.250
our money. What? No way. I just read that a billion

00:54:45.250 --> 00:54:48.409
dollars was spent on a survey that had 10 questions

00:54:48.409 --> 00:54:51.139
on it. Yes, it was from SurveyMonkey, by the

00:54:51.139 --> 00:54:54.820
way. It was literally like a copy and paste from...

00:54:54.820 --> 00:55:02.099
Billion with a B. Yes. Billion dollars was spent

00:55:02.099 --> 00:55:05.699
on a 10 -question survey. That was never... The

00:55:05.699 --> 00:55:09.960
key for it, for the coding for where the answer

00:55:09.960 --> 00:55:11.860
is to go and for what to do with it, was never

00:55:11.860 --> 00:55:17.699
done. Yeah. They won a contract to make a questionnaire.

00:55:18.949 --> 00:55:21.309
And that's what they did. There was nothing on

00:55:21.309 --> 00:55:22.829
about where to take the information or how to

00:55:22.829 --> 00:55:27.550
utilize it. Yeah. Which is great. Isn't everybody

00:55:27.550 --> 00:55:29.329
here great? That they just basically took a billion

00:55:29.329 --> 00:55:30.570
dollars and went, yeah, I'll just throw it in

00:55:30.570 --> 00:55:33.329
the toilet right now. I would just love to set

00:55:33.329 --> 00:55:34.750
that money on fire. That's exactly what they

00:55:34.750 --> 00:55:37.630
do. The sad part is, that's only one. That's

00:55:37.630 --> 00:55:40.710
one thing. Do you know what I could do with a

00:55:40.710 --> 00:55:43.889
billion dollars for this country, Gibbs? You

00:55:43.889 --> 00:55:46.590
know, I feel like 95 % of it is not appropriate

00:55:46.590 --> 00:55:57.440
for Twitch. You're not wrong. Oh, don't worry,

00:55:57.519 --> 00:55:59.639
Wookie. They're the government. They're here

00:55:59.639 --> 00:56:01.900
to help. It's okay. Yeah, no, they're not here

00:56:01.900 --> 00:56:06.840
to help. They're not here to help. Uh -huh. So

00:56:06.840 --> 00:56:13.179
now we're into the current discussion of how

00:56:13.179 --> 00:56:15.219
have we really gotten here with all these other

00:56:15.219 --> 00:56:19.119
factors? Now we're seeing that really... Just

00:56:19.119 --> 00:56:20.900
because you throw money at education doesn't

00:56:20.900 --> 00:56:23.820
mean you get a good education. Because of all

00:56:23.820 --> 00:56:26.059
these other things with biased curriculums, biased

00:56:26.059 --> 00:56:29.460
teachers, biased education systems on top of

00:56:29.460 --> 00:56:31.360
that. And a lot of these teachers, unfortunately,

00:56:31.400 --> 00:56:32.860
not understand that what they're teaching is

00:56:32.860 --> 00:56:36.119
inherently biased to begin with. Right. And all

00:56:36.119 --> 00:56:39.239
of this does not mean they're pushing stuff that's

00:56:39.239 --> 00:56:41.679
actually good for your kids. Because at the end

00:56:41.679 --> 00:56:43.679
of the day, they're pushing curriculums that

00:56:43.679 --> 00:56:47.340
justify your kid going to college. Because maybe

00:56:47.340 --> 00:56:50.219
this is my bias. This part is totally my bias

00:56:50.219 --> 00:56:52.940
from where the state that I come from. Every

00:56:52.940 --> 00:56:55.019
single kid, it was expected of you to go to college.

00:56:55.579 --> 00:56:57.679
If you were a kid that said, what if I want to

00:56:57.679 --> 00:56:59.360
go to trade school? They would laugh and say,

00:56:59.400 --> 00:57:01.280
go to where the stupid kids go at the trade school.

00:57:01.639 --> 00:57:06.480
Shun the non -believers. Shun them. But that's

00:57:06.480 --> 00:57:11.619
how it was. I will never forget. This was in

00:57:11.619 --> 00:57:14.059
May before a couple of kids were graduating.

00:57:14.789 --> 00:57:16.889
And I was asking all these kids, hey, now that

00:57:16.889 --> 00:57:18.929
all of you are graduating, congratulations, what

00:57:18.929 --> 00:57:21.949
do you plan on doing? And I had eight or nine

00:57:21.949 --> 00:57:24.030
kids that say, oh, I want to go to school there,

00:57:24.130 --> 00:57:25.389
school there, school there. I'm like, that's

00:57:25.389 --> 00:57:27.690
great, that's awesome, good for you. And there

00:57:27.690 --> 00:57:29.789
was this one shy kid, I was doing a piano class

00:57:29.789 --> 00:57:32.130
at the time, because history of music, I was

00:57:32.130 --> 00:57:35.429
doing music. This one kid that I got along with

00:57:35.429 --> 00:57:37.829
really well, he tried really well, he just wasn't

00:57:37.829 --> 00:57:39.610
good at piano, but he really tried, so I gave

00:57:39.610 --> 00:57:42.349
him an A. And he was like, I think I'm going

00:57:42.349 --> 00:57:45.139
to go learn a trade. And I immediately perk up

00:57:45.139 --> 00:57:47.019
and said, you're probably the smartest person

00:57:47.019 --> 00:57:50.440
in this room. And he was like, what? I'm like,

00:57:50.539 --> 00:57:53.760
yeah, what's Trace? Electrician. I said, dude,

00:57:53.820 --> 00:57:55.980
in this state, you'll be making six figures in

00:57:55.980 --> 00:57:57.539
five years or everybody else is six figures in

00:57:57.539 --> 00:57:59.219
debt. Good for you. I hope you do it. And he

00:57:59.219 --> 00:58:02.380
was like, he was awestruck. He's like, somebody,

00:58:02.539 --> 00:58:05.539
an educator actually believed. It's like, yeah,

00:58:05.699 --> 00:58:09.519
I've done that kind of work. I have done, you

00:58:09.519 --> 00:58:12.010
know, let me tell you. It sucks for a little

00:58:12.010 --> 00:58:14.070
while, but guess what? Having a marketable skill

00:58:14.070 --> 00:58:19.010
like that. Oh, yeah. Way better. 100%. Way fucking

00:58:19.010 --> 00:58:25.230
better. Absolutely. So now I want to just kind

00:58:25.230 --> 00:58:29.110
of segue in. The stat that I gave at the beginning

00:58:29.110 --> 00:58:33.230
of the episode, I want to kind of put this in

00:58:33.230 --> 00:58:38.210
a little bit. Two trillion dollars. Trillion

00:58:38.210 --> 00:58:41.719
with a T. has been spent on american education

00:58:41.719 --> 00:58:44.280
since the department of education's inception

00:58:44.280 --> 00:58:50.179
the return on investment pretty abysmal well

00:58:50.179 --> 00:58:52.880
especially test scores go ahead i was gonna say

00:58:52.880 --> 00:58:56.420
especially when you look at number one what that

00:58:56.420 --> 00:58:57.800
money could have been spent on but also number

00:58:57.800 --> 00:59:00.920
two when you look at comparing us to other countries

00:59:00.920 --> 00:59:04.840
yep I'm going to mushroom stamp on that here

00:59:04.840 --> 00:59:07.659
in a second. Test scores for American students

00:59:07.659 --> 00:59:11.900
have been consistently at or near the bottom

00:59:11.900 --> 00:59:15.860
of ranked testing for the last 30 years among

00:59:15.860 --> 00:59:20.440
50 countries. Schools that do not follow the

00:59:20.440 --> 00:59:24.480
notion of teach to the test, however, consistently

00:59:24.480 --> 00:59:28.420
produce students that test higher on those same

00:59:28.420 --> 00:59:32.239
rated tests when asked to perform on those same

00:59:32.239 --> 00:59:35.630
tests. So you've got tests like those Montessori

00:59:35.630 --> 00:59:37.309
schools like you were talking about. Montessori,

00:59:37.389 --> 00:59:43.190
yep. However the fuck you say it. The private

00:59:43.190 --> 00:59:46.030
schools, the charter schools that don't follow

00:59:46.030 --> 00:59:48.309
the state standards of, well, here's the test

00:59:48.309 --> 00:59:50.349
that we have to take at the end of the quarter.

00:59:50.730 --> 00:59:53.130
We have to teach what's on here. Don't worry

00:59:53.130 --> 00:59:54.949
about that really cool subject you want to look

00:59:54.949 --> 00:59:58.710
at. This is what we have to teach. The schools

00:59:58.710 --> 01:00:00.710
that let the kids kind of learn the different

01:00:00.710 --> 01:00:04.550
stuff. and go about things a different way, they

01:00:04.550 --> 01:00:08.650
have the higher test scores. Who would have thought?

01:00:09.250 --> 01:00:11.329
I feel like when you actually treat people as

01:00:11.329 --> 01:00:13.909
individuals, you might get better solutions and

01:00:13.909 --> 01:00:15.710
better response and better education out of them,

01:00:15.769 --> 01:00:17.690
rather than thinking everybody's the same. Because

01:00:17.690 --> 01:00:20.809
guess what? The kids aren't. You could try and

01:00:20.809 --> 01:00:22.909
develop the best education system possible, and

01:00:22.909 --> 01:00:24.030
guess what? You're always going to have kids

01:00:24.030 --> 01:00:26.110
that flunk out and always have kids that succeed.

01:00:26.849 --> 01:00:31.510
The role of an educator should be... To adapt

01:00:31.510 --> 01:00:35.829
the curriculum to best reflect on how that child

01:00:35.829 --> 01:00:38.429
learns. And they are not allowed to do that.

01:00:38.489 --> 01:00:41.190
Because at the end of the day, you have state

01:00:41.190 --> 01:00:43.110
testing of the stuff that reflects on you as

01:00:43.110 --> 01:00:44.570
a teacher. And unfortunately, how are teachers

01:00:44.570 --> 01:00:47.849
graded? It is not by the children of the parents.

01:00:48.369 --> 01:00:50.670
It is by the state saying, how many kids pass

01:00:50.670 --> 01:00:52.289
that? How do they do this? Are they proficient?

01:00:52.389 --> 01:00:55.250
Do they not do that? I actually have a story.

01:00:56.190 --> 01:00:58.880
Hold on, hold on. Yep. And that's why they've

01:00:58.880 --> 01:01:00.900
been lowering testing standards through the years

01:01:00.900 --> 01:01:03.800
so that more students pass and it pads their

01:01:03.800 --> 01:01:07.000
numbers. Because those schools get more funding

01:01:07.000 --> 01:01:10.019
based off the test scores, not based off those

01:01:10.019 --> 01:01:13.340
children's success or how they would rate the

01:01:13.340 --> 01:01:16.079
school. It's, hey, if you got all proficient

01:01:16.079 --> 01:01:18.059
on that, then you're great. If you got all A's

01:01:18.059 --> 01:01:20.440
and B's, great. That's all they care about. Because

01:01:20.440 --> 01:01:21.960
at the end of the day, they don't care about

01:01:21.960 --> 01:01:23.480
your child individually. They just care about

01:01:23.480 --> 01:01:27.929
the number. If your child's 87240. An 87240 does

01:01:27.929 --> 01:01:29.590
well, great, they passed. Regardless if they

01:01:29.590 --> 01:01:30.869
could ever get a job or have a house or have

01:01:30.869 --> 01:01:33.570
a successful marriage or anything else. They

01:01:33.570 --> 01:01:35.969
don't care. They don't give a shit about that.

01:01:36.769 --> 01:01:40.969
What I was going to say, in my state, they introduced

01:01:40.969 --> 01:01:45.010
state testing. It was originally designed back

01:01:45.010 --> 01:01:49.090
in the 80s to test the teachers. The first year

01:01:49.090 --> 01:01:52.590
they did it, over half the teachers failed. They

01:01:52.590 --> 01:01:54.489
immediately changed it to test the students.

01:01:55.489 --> 01:01:57.530
The first year was meant to test the teachers

01:01:57.530 --> 01:01:59.090
and see what they were teaching, how effective

01:01:59.090 --> 01:02:02.030
they were. The teachers union said, yeah, this

01:02:02.030 --> 01:02:04.170
sucks. This didn't work very well. We're now

01:02:04.170 --> 01:02:05.690
going to have a test of students because we always

01:02:05.690 --> 01:02:08.230
did that, right? Yeah. Yeah. Nothing to see here.

01:02:08.349 --> 01:02:10.369
No, nobody failed. This is fine. This is not

01:02:10.369 --> 01:02:12.230
a reflection on a bad education. No, no, no.

01:02:13.809 --> 01:02:15.789
And it's scary because my state's supposed to

01:02:15.789 --> 01:02:17.929
have one of the highest education standards in

01:02:17.929 --> 01:02:21.869
the country. Yet I see kids that can't read and

01:02:21.869 --> 01:02:25.070
write, but they can pass the test. And here's

01:02:25.070 --> 01:02:30.070
one of the final problems I have. Knowledge retention

01:02:30.070 --> 01:02:37.289
is huge. In any job that you ever work at, the

01:02:37.289 --> 01:02:40.429
ability to adapt and quickly learn and to retain

01:02:40.429 --> 01:02:44.429
that knowledge is huge. If you're a boss, the

01:02:44.429 --> 01:02:45.889
idea is you want to have an employee that you

01:02:45.889 --> 01:02:49.150
can teach them something once, and they retain

01:02:49.150 --> 01:02:50.949
it, they remember it, and they know how to implement

01:02:50.949 --> 01:02:55.679
it. education systems, the way they're done now,

01:02:55.800 --> 01:02:58.199
the idea to teach me something, as long as I

01:02:58.199 --> 01:02:59.960
remember it for a day or two or the week before

01:02:59.960 --> 01:03:03.059
the test, I'm good. After that, it doesn't matter.

01:03:03.400 --> 01:03:05.500
It doesn't matter. I could have dumped out my

01:03:05.500 --> 01:03:08.199
brain the day I graduated, dumped out 90 % of

01:03:08.199 --> 01:03:09.460
all the shit they ever taught me because it was

01:03:09.460 --> 01:03:12.539
irrelevant. And every single kid in high school

01:03:12.539 --> 01:03:17.199
knows this. Every one of them. They are not tested

01:03:17.199 --> 01:03:20.579
on how you retain this information. Can you recall

01:03:20.579 --> 01:03:23.389
this information? How can you analyze and use

01:03:23.389 --> 01:03:29.329
it? No. It's only about short -term recall, which

01:03:29.329 --> 01:03:33.550
is a detriment because in any single, I don't

01:03:33.550 --> 01:03:35.269
want to say every other, but basically any other

01:03:35.269 --> 01:03:38.030
career you can think of, you build off of years

01:03:38.030 --> 01:03:42.210
of experience. You need to remember that shit.

01:03:43.349 --> 01:03:45.550
You need to be able to build off of it and learn

01:03:45.550 --> 01:03:52.079
and adapt and grow. They do not why they don't

01:03:52.079 --> 01:03:54.119
base this education system on the idea of you

01:03:54.119 --> 01:03:57.820
can grow and Learn more but have to retain that

01:03:57.820 --> 01:04:00.460
other stuff number one is beyond me. I think

01:04:00.460 --> 01:04:02.820
it's ridiculous, but it does these kids a disservice

01:04:02.820 --> 01:04:07.019
by teaching to these tests they are robbing these

01:04:07.019 --> 01:04:10.360
kids of me able to learn stuff long term and

01:04:10.360 --> 01:04:12.820
Instead the teachers were simply too afraid of

01:04:12.820 --> 01:04:14.360
being called out for not being able to teach

01:04:14.360 --> 01:04:19.900
well enough but it's also the flip side of it's

01:04:19.900 --> 01:04:22.360
the unfortunate part of if you're trying to teach

01:04:22.360 --> 01:04:24.380
all the kids, get a room of 40 kids to understand

01:04:24.380 --> 01:04:27.880
a topic at the exact same time, that's usually

01:04:27.880 --> 01:04:30.400
not going to happen. Some kids take a while to

01:04:30.400 --> 01:04:32.619
process it. Some kids will pick up on it instantly.

01:04:33.199 --> 01:04:35.599
Some kids need some time to conceptualize and

01:04:35.599 --> 01:04:37.420
figure it out or look up stuff. Everyone's different,

01:04:37.539 --> 01:04:40.400
but they don't allow for that because at the

01:04:40.400 --> 01:04:41.980
end of the day, the teacher is graded on what

01:04:41.980 --> 01:04:45.280
the kids know that that day and either it's pass

01:04:45.280 --> 01:04:47.059
fail, basically a century. It's the idea of,

01:04:47.059 --> 01:04:48.469
you know, Either they get enough on the state

01:04:48.469 --> 01:04:54.130
numbers or they don't. Yeah. So, it's a shame.

01:04:54.409 --> 01:04:56.510
But at the end of the day, it goes to show that

01:04:56.510 --> 01:04:58.210
the amount of money you throw into the education

01:04:58.210 --> 01:05:01.909
system doesn't mean anything. I remember the

01:05:01.909 --> 01:05:05.909
study back from 2016 where the average student

01:05:05.909 --> 01:05:09.690
in Chicago, they were spending about $15 ,000

01:05:09.690 --> 01:05:12.449
a year on them. And they were one of the lowest.

01:05:12.550 --> 01:05:15.119
Per student. Yeah, per student per year. They're

01:05:15.119 --> 01:05:17.440
one of the lowest ranked schools in the country.

01:05:18.559 --> 01:05:22.059
There was a school in Denmark that spent just

01:05:22.059 --> 01:05:24.619
shy of five grand a year. And they're one of

01:05:24.619 --> 01:05:27.500
the highest rated schools in the world. Wow.

01:05:27.619 --> 01:05:29.400
All of it converted to US dollars at the same

01:05:29.400 --> 01:05:33.119
time. People wonder why they're spending three

01:05:33.119 --> 01:05:35.440
times the amount in Chicago. Why aren't they

01:05:35.440 --> 01:05:38.000
doing well? Number one, the curriculum wasn't

01:05:38.000 --> 01:05:40.440
doing very well because the curriculum really

01:05:40.440 --> 01:05:41.719
didn't make sense. It didn't relate to those

01:05:41.719 --> 01:05:44.099
kids. Number two, they were taking a lot of classes

01:05:44.099 --> 01:05:45.980
and different things that really they didn't

01:05:45.980 --> 01:05:48.179
relate to, that didn't help them to help with

01:05:48.179 --> 01:05:52.380
their career or what they wanted to do. And the

01:05:52.380 --> 01:05:54.860
other problem is, quite frankly, it also has

01:05:54.860 --> 01:05:58.239
to do with a culture problem. If you're not invested

01:05:58.239 --> 01:06:00.760
in that child's education or the school's not

01:06:00.760 --> 01:06:02.679
invested in that kid doing well, if all they

01:06:02.679 --> 01:06:04.579
care about is the numbers, they're not checking

01:06:04.579 --> 01:06:07.099
in, they're not going the extra mile. And in

01:06:07.099 --> 01:06:10.190
a lot of cases, American school systems... Unfortunately,

01:06:10.250 --> 01:06:12.389
they resort to things like just assigning a ton

01:06:12.389 --> 01:06:16.190
of homework to make up for the lack of education

01:06:16.190 --> 01:06:19.869
time in the school. Because these school systems

01:06:19.869 --> 01:06:21.670
are overpacked and they don't have a lot of one

01:06:21.670 --> 01:06:24.070
-on -one time, they will just assign homework

01:06:24.070 --> 01:06:29.630
purely, purely to make up for the lack of instructional

01:06:29.630 --> 01:06:33.289
time in class. Whereas in a lot of other countries,

01:06:33.369 --> 01:06:34.889
they don't necessarily assign homework nearly

01:06:34.889 --> 01:06:38.309
like America does. Yeah, and a lot of studies

01:06:38.309 --> 01:06:40.230
are showing that homework is more detrimental

01:06:40.230 --> 01:06:44.969
than it helps. If you're struggling with something,

01:06:45.170 --> 01:06:50.250
maybe send something home, instructional shit,

01:06:50.389 --> 01:06:54.530
and a couple of reinforcement type of problems.

01:06:55.329 --> 01:06:59.949
You don't need to send 50 fucking problems doing

01:06:59.949 --> 01:07:02.309
the same thing over and over with no instruction,

01:07:02.550 --> 01:07:07.179
no guidance, no support. It's just do the work.

01:07:07.280 --> 01:07:10.820
There's no support there. It's just repetition.

01:07:10.880 --> 01:07:15.739
And not all kids learn repetition. Guidance and

01:07:15.739 --> 01:07:22.480
support are better structures to learn from.

01:07:25.460 --> 01:07:28.199
The money aspect that you were talking about,

01:07:28.320 --> 01:07:33.139
kids who are homeschooled, if they have active

01:07:33.980 --> 01:07:38.699
parents or um instructor type people because

01:07:38.699 --> 01:07:40.639
i know there's like group homeschool projects

01:07:40.639 --> 01:07:45.539
that are out there um if that's done right and

01:07:45.539 --> 01:07:49.280
done well some of those kids come out so far

01:07:49.280 --> 01:07:55.619
ahead than other even like high -end high schools

01:07:55.619 --> 01:08:00.539
yep dude it is crazy how well off some of these

01:08:00.539 --> 01:08:03.349
homeschool kids are being Back in my day, we

01:08:03.349 --> 01:08:07.469
used to make fun of the homeschool kids. And

01:08:07.469 --> 01:08:11.949
now, homeschool kids are pretty fucking smart.

01:08:12.789 --> 01:08:15.170
It's almost because there's no substitute. Not

01:08:15.170 --> 01:08:18.229
all. True. Not all the homeschool kids are pretty

01:08:18.229 --> 01:08:22.310
fucking smart. But a lot of them. A lot of them

01:08:22.310 --> 01:08:27.369
are. I do have to say, the proms probably get

01:08:27.369 --> 01:08:33.420
kind of weird. Yeah. That's a little weird. Dating

01:08:33.420 --> 01:08:36.939
would probably be kind of, yeah. Unless you're

01:08:36.939 --> 01:08:39.479
in Alabama, that's acceptable. We get that, it's

01:08:39.479 --> 01:08:46.720
fine. Game's a game. But it is true that one

01:08:46.720 --> 01:08:48.220
of the things with education with most kids,

01:08:48.319 --> 01:08:51.279
it's really just instructional time that's devoted

01:08:51.279 --> 01:08:54.340
to teaching these concepts. Because almost everything

01:08:54.340 --> 01:08:57.659
in education is a conceptual idea. And a lot

01:08:57.659 --> 01:08:59.079
of things for kids, it's either they understand

01:08:59.079 --> 01:09:01.479
it or they don't. to where you have to kind of

01:09:01.479 --> 01:09:03.180
figure out what the best methodology is, how

01:09:03.180 --> 01:09:04.539
to explain to them, how to get them to understand

01:09:04.539 --> 01:09:08.279
it. So without that instructional time that's

01:09:08.279 --> 01:09:11.779
like one -on -one, for a lot of kids, they're

01:09:11.779 --> 01:09:14.020
just going to kind of yeah, yeah, yeah you, and

01:09:14.020 --> 01:09:15.600
they'll take the test, but they're not going

01:09:15.600 --> 01:09:18.460
to retain it or care about it. For a lot of homeschool

01:09:18.460 --> 01:09:20.979
kids, especially the U .S. federal, that's one

01:09:20.979 --> 01:09:22.079
of the few things that they actually did, right?

01:09:22.640 --> 01:09:24.760
They did require, if you want to homeschool your

01:09:24.760 --> 01:09:26.960
kids, like get to upload your curriculum to kind

01:09:26.960 --> 01:09:29.319
of keep them updated to show exactly what you're

01:09:29.319 --> 01:09:31.439
teaching. and when you actually make people be

01:09:31.439 --> 01:09:33.439
transparent about what they're teaching people

01:09:33.439 --> 01:09:36.920
it's crazy how good they can be when you're like

01:09:36.920 --> 01:09:39.260
holding them i don't know accountable to teach

01:09:39.260 --> 01:09:42.659
things that actually are useful but he also goes

01:09:42.659 --> 01:09:45.319
to show that there are communities i saw they'll

01:09:45.319 --> 01:09:48.100
get together like five or ten families and they'll

01:09:48.100 --> 01:09:51.399
rotate who teaches that way some you know one

01:09:51.399 --> 01:09:53.199
week they're teaching math because this parent

01:09:53.199 --> 01:09:55.079
comes in then they have science and english or

01:09:55.079 --> 01:09:57.199
whatever It's like the way we used to do it,

01:09:57.239 --> 01:09:59.239
but now with higher standards and all these different

01:09:59.239 --> 01:10:01.579
extra aids that we have nowadays. And some of

01:10:01.579 --> 01:10:04.920
those kids are seriously advanced. It's crazy,

01:10:05.340 --> 01:10:09.100
but it's more. Can you, can you, I'm sorry to

01:10:09.100 --> 01:10:11.520
step on you. Can you imagine if our schools were

01:10:11.520 --> 01:10:15.199
structured so that they spent a week at a time

01:10:15.199 --> 01:10:19.140
on a subject with a teacher that was not just

01:10:19.140 --> 01:10:25.329
engaging, but awesome at that subject. I mean,

01:10:25.369 --> 01:10:29.630
that's what the Montessori schools do. Wow. So

01:10:29.630 --> 01:10:31.670
that's what my aunt did. So what she did, she

01:10:31.670 --> 01:10:33.550
was actually a teacher at Montessori school where

01:10:33.550 --> 01:10:36.369
she had kids for two to three years at a time.

01:10:37.649 --> 01:10:39.689
Well, the idea is she was their educator from

01:10:39.689 --> 01:10:41.850
like fourth, fifth and sixth grade or like five,

01:10:41.909 --> 01:10:44.229
six, seven. She'd have that same group of kids.

01:10:44.689 --> 01:10:46.210
So the idea is they would get to know what those

01:10:46.210 --> 01:10:48.630
kids are into. If they found a topic that all

01:10:48.630 --> 01:10:50.149
the kids were engaged at, they'd stay at it for

01:10:50.149 --> 01:10:52.649
days because as long as we get to these topics

01:10:52.649 --> 01:10:54.619
by the end of the year. it doesn't matter when

01:10:54.619 --> 01:10:56.739
we learn them as long as they learn them and

01:10:56.739 --> 01:11:00.279
retain it and understand it one of the fundamental

01:11:00.279 --> 01:11:02.359
problems we have that i don't know why we're

01:11:02.359 --> 01:11:04.899
not using if we want to use the internet for

01:11:04.899 --> 01:11:07.600
all this stuff why not make the curriculums 100

01:11:07.600 --> 01:11:09.720
on the internet for any high school all right

01:11:09.720 --> 01:11:12.060
middle school elementary school all that and

01:11:12.060 --> 01:11:14.500
let the kids be able to walk between classes

01:11:14.500 --> 01:11:16.159
and say all right cool i'd like to just do this

01:11:16.159 --> 01:11:17.800
today we're doing this today we do this today

01:11:17.800 --> 01:11:20.260
be able to learn at your own pace as long as

01:11:20.260 --> 01:11:23.619
you get it done by this time frame I'm obviously

01:11:23.619 --> 01:11:25.239
not saying they could do willy -nilly, do whatever,

01:11:25.420 --> 01:11:27.460
but you get my point. With a little bit less

01:11:27.460 --> 01:11:30.340
structure, but a little bit more of being upfront

01:11:30.340 --> 01:11:33.260
about this stuff, you get some kids that I bet

01:11:33.260 --> 01:11:35.279
you, hell, they'd be done with high school by

01:11:35.279 --> 01:11:37.720
the time they're 14. Probably. Because they're

01:11:37.720 --> 01:11:39.939
just into it. And for some of them, that might

01:11:39.939 --> 01:11:42.319
be really good. But then for some people, there

01:11:42.319 --> 01:11:43.920
would be no shame. Maybe if some people aren't

01:11:43.920 --> 01:11:45.399
ready to be done with high school until 19 or

01:11:45.399 --> 01:11:48.060
20. Because I'm not doing that to shame people.

01:11:48.159 --> 01:11:50.699
It's just everyone's different. But we have a

01:11:50.699 --> 01:11:53.340
system where we force people. At this date, you're

01:11:53.340 --> 01:11:55.619
done. You're now an adult, whether you're ready

01:11:55.619 --> 01:11:58.399
for it or not. And that's not necessarily fair

01:11:58.399 --> 01:12:01.539
to some people. I have met people in my life

01:12:01.539 --> 01:12:03.319
who were not ready to be adults until they were

01:12:03.319 --> 01:12:06.359
30. Yeah, we can't keep them in the system that

01:12:06.359 --> 01:12:14.199
long. But I agree with you, though. Yeah. And

01:12:14.199 --> 01:12:21.739
also, alternative types of classes, even... Like

01:12:21.739 --> 01:12:29.680
using games to teach theories. Yeah. And concepts,

01:12:29.960 --> 01:12:33.600
rather. Take a game like Magic the Gathering.

01:12:34.239 --> 01:12:38.300
That is a game that can teach social constructs,

01:12:38.300 --> 01:12:44.779
strategy, math, reading, comprehension. Because

01:12:44.779 --> 01:12:48.100
good God. Well, that's the thing. There's a lot

01:12:48.100 --> 01:12:50.239
of things you can use that can focus on knowledge

01:12:50.239 --> 01:12:53.020
retainment. And so one of the things they say,

01:12:53.100 --> 01:12:55.380
knowledge and wisdom is where knowledge is the

01:12:55.380 --> 01:12:57.260
ability to retain something, but wisdom is to

01:12:57.260 --> 01:12:58.659
be able to actually utilize that information

01:12:58.659 --> 01:13:01.079
effectively, to be able to sort through it and

01:13:01.079 --> 01:13:04.500
actually use it. So it's one of those things

01:13:04.500 --> 01:13:07.260
where there's a lot of other games, but also

01:13:07.260 --> 01:13:09.340
various different things you can use to reinforce

01:13:09.340 --> 01:13:15.539
this education. Uh -huh. Sorry, I just adjusted

01:13:15.539 --> 01:13:18.180
something one second. But at the same point,

01:13:18.239 --> 01:13:20.279
there's a lot of other interests that kids can

01:13:20.279 --> 01:13:23.510
get into. For example, like, unfortunately, at

01:13:23.510 --> 01:13:26.189
my high school, they introduced a robotics class

01:13:26.189 --> 01:13:29.710
the year I graduated. I would have loved robotics

01:13:29.710 --> 01:13:32.010
or coding. They never had a coding class until

01:13:32.010 --> 01:13:33.550
two years after I graduated, even though I was

01:13:33.550 --> 01:13:35.270
pushing for stuff like that. I was pushing for

01:13:35.270 --> 01:13:38.210
computer classes. My computer class, you know

01:13:38.210 --> 01:13:41.310
what they taught me how to do? Type. Google SketchUp.

01:13:41.470 --> 01:13:45.569
How to do a cylinder. How to do a square. Oh,

01:13:45.609 --> 01:13:48.729
chapter three, how to do a rectangle. It was

01:13:48.729 --> 01:13:52.409
crazy. You can make the square longer. But the

01:13:52.409 --> 01:13:54.770
sad part is this is stuff that you can fucking

01:13:54.770 --> 01:13:57.350
figure out. This is nothing easy. This is nothing

01:13:57.350 --> 01:14:01.890
simple. This is stupid. But there are things

01:14:01.890 --> 01:14:04.810
that they can teach these kids that not only

01:14:04.810 --> 01:14:06.689
can align with what their interests are, but

01:14:06.689 --> 01:14:09.909
also give them marketable, useful skills. At

01:14:09.909 --> 01:14:12.439
the same point, Why don't more high schools partner

01:14:12.439 --> 01:14:15.020
with community colleges? This is the part that

01:14:15.020 --> 01:14:19.300
really gets me. I spent all that time doing advanced

01:14:19.300 --> 01:14:23.100
placement courses in order for colleges to say,

01:14:23.220 --> 01:14:26.819
yeah, but we don't recognize those credits. I

01:14:26.819 --> 01:14:29.199
spent all that time in high school taking what's

01:14:29.199 --> 01:14:31.500
supposed to be a college -level course for them

01:14:31.500 --> 01:14:34.760
to say, no, we don't recognize it. We don't want

01:14:34.760 --> 01:14:36.869
to do it. Yeah, no good. I could have just taken

01:14:36.869 --> 01:14:38.489
a fucking college course and actually gotten

01:14:38.489 --> 01:14:41.869
college credit for it and been less effort. I

01:14:41.869 --> 01:14:44.310
think there needs to be more of a blurred line

01:14:44.310 --> 01:14:45.729
when it comes to when you're done with high school,

01:14:45.770 --> 01:14:47.270
when you start like community college and doing

01:14:47.270 --> 01:14:48.630
stuff like that, that needs to be something that's

01:14:48.630 --> 01:14:50.890
way more fluid because there are some kids that

01:14:50.890 --> 01:14:52.130
should be able to do some of that stuff. Like

01:14:52.130 --> 01:14:56.069
if I had the option to do, if I could take in

01:14:56.069 --> 01:14:58.090
the sound engineering and music classes that

01:14:58.090 --> 01:15:01.350
I took in college back in high school, I would

01:15:01.350 --> 01:15:02.670
have probably taken a completely different trajectory

01:15:02.670 --> 01:15:06.039
in life. but I didn't get access to that information

01:15:06.039 --> 01:15:08.600
until I was older and had to pay for it. And

01:15:08.600 --> 01:15:10.640
then I was like, Oh, this is going to go a different

01:15:10.640 --> 01:15:12.180
way, which good and bad. Don't get me wrong.

01:15:13.159 --> 01:15:15.319
Yeah. But I feel like there's a lot where these

01:15:15.319 --> 01:15:17.560
kids are missing because they're so focused on

01:15:17.560 --> 01:15:19.600
these academic things. Like, you know, you have

01:15:19.600 --> 01:15:21.340
to remember all the dates that happened for this

01:15:21.340 --> 01:15:24.039
thing in history, but they don't understand history

01:15:24.039 --> 01:15:26.279
thematically. I don't know if you know where

01:15:26.279 --> 01:15:29.859
I'm going with that. So there's a bit of a bit

01:15:29.859 --> 01:15:31.439
of an aside. This could take me one, like, like

01:15:31.439 --> 01:15:35.140
literally 30 seconds to say this. Okay. I'm sick

01:15:35.140 --> 01:15:37.380
of history classes that they focus on dates and

01:15:37.380 --> 01:15:39.760
when things happen and not understand history

01:15:39.760 --> 01:15:42.159
in a thematic manner. The idea of these themes

01:15:42.159 --> 01:15:44.899
that keep repeating. Like the idea of empires

01:15:44.899 --> 01:15:47.119
rising and falling. Why do they rise? Why do

01:15:47.119 --> 01:15:49.420
they fall? What happens? Look at the rise and

01:15:49.420 --> 01:15:52.359
fall of the Roman Empire, the Greeks, the Egyptians,

01:15:52.659 --> 01:15:56.140
even the Eastern and Western Roman Empire, Germany.

01:15:56.520 --> 01:15:58.159
Look at what America's going through right now.

01:15:58.420 --> 01:16:01.500
Yeesh, that sounds very fucking familiar. But...

01:16:02.470 --> 01:16:05.310
History always repeats itself. If you were to

01:16:05.310 --> 01:16:07.229
ask kids nowadays who went to high school, how

01:16:07.229 --> 01:16:11.689
is American politics and history similar to Roman

01:16:11.689 --> 01:16:14.909
history in like 300 to 400 AD? They'd be like,

01:16:14.970 --> 01:16:17.829
I have no fucking clue. But if you look through

01:16:17.829 --> 01:16:20.489
history, rather than less on the dates when things

01:16:20.489 --> 01:16:22.609
happen, because that's an easy cop -out, but

01:16:22.609 --> 01:16:25.750
more the themes of how did this empire rise and

01:16:25.750 --> 01:16:28.970
fall? Give me two paragraphs each. You'd be able

01:16:28.970 --> 01:16:30.449
to look and say... Some of those kids can't even

01:16:30.449 --> 01:16:36.090
spell empire. yeah and that's it kills me because

01:16:36.090 --> 01:16:39.130
they're not looking at things for how it relates

01:16:39.130 --> 01:16:42.229
to what you do on a daily basis or what you might

01:16:42.229 --> 01:16:45.449
think about you know like for example i was lucky

01:16:45.449 --> 01:16:48.310
in high school i was able to take a um a physics

01:16:48.310 --> 01:16:50.069
class where we did a whole section on electricity

01:16:50.069 --> 01:16:53.310
so like i understood what ohm's law was i don't

01:16:53.310 --> 01:16:54.890
know volts and amps everything else and how all

01:16:54.890 --> 01:16:57.260
that kind of works And that actually changed

01:16:57.260 --> 01:16:58.640
it for me because I was able to do like some

01:16:58.640 --> 01:17:00.420
wiring on my car and do some things around the

01:17:00.420 --> 01:17:01.939
house and around the farm and do some stuff.

01:17:02.939 --> 01:17:05.319
I got more mileage out of that physics class,

01:17:05.600 --> 01:17:08.220
like applied physics, than I did out of any English

01:17:08.220 --> 01:17:11.880
class. Oh, absolutely. You know what was required

01:17:11.880 --> 01:17:13.420
for me for my senior year for English class,

01:17:13.479 --> 01:17:14.819
which is the most bullshit thing, and I will

01:17:14.819 --> 01:17:17.199
never not be pissed about this? Do you want to

01:17:17.199 --> 01:17:20.479
know what I took an entire year of my 18 -year

01:17:20.479 --> 01:17:27.760
-old life? Fucking poetry. My entire senior year

01:17:27.760 --> 01:17:31.399
was analyzing Shakespearean poetry. You know

01:17:31.399 --> 01:17:34.520
what I have never done a fucking day of my adult

01:17:34.520 --> 01:17:38.779
life? Poetry. Shakespearean poetry. It wasn't

01:17:38.779 --> 01:17:41.479
even modern poetry. No. She said that's the only

01:17:41.479 --> 01:17:45.739
poetry that's worth looking at. Because she subjectively

01:17:45.739 --> 01:17:50.899
has a degree in, oh yeah, Shakespearean poetry.

01:17:51.220 --> 01:17:53.500
So she's like, I run the English department,

01:17:53.560 --> 01:17:55.949
so that's what we're going to do. And let me

01:17:55.949 --> 01:17:57.949
tell you something. It's never once helped me.

01:17:59.329 --> 01:18:01.289
I never once learned anything from that that

01:18:01.289 --> 01:18:02.729
I can actually use in daily life. And sure, I

01:18:02.729 --> 01:18:04.050
bet you there's somebody out there that learned

01:18:04.050 --> 01:18:05.590
one thing from that class. But I will tell you

01:18:05.590 --> 01:18:08.829
right now, she wasted hundreds of hours of my

01:18:08.829 --> 01:18:12.670
life and I will never forgive you. I go out of

01:18:12.670 --> 01:18:14.890
my way to not forgive her because that is a waste

01:18:14.890 --> 01:18:17.449
of time. And I think I look at kids where you

01:18:17.449 --> 01:18:18.989
only have so much time to teach them everything.

01:18:19.550 --> 01:18:22.350
Every minute matters. So make the most of it.

01:18:23.630 --> 01:18:26.789
I think with kids, especially kids that show

01:18:26.789 --> 01:18:31.409
aptitude and ability, if they're given access

01:18:31.409 --> 01:18:33.649
to some of the higher level courses and even

01:18:33.649 --> 01:18:37.250
college level courses early enough in high school,

01:18:37.369 --> 01:18:39.430
if they're able to complete them, they should

01:18:39.430 --> 01:18:42.109
100 % get college credit for those. Oh, yeah,

01:18:42.149 --> 01:18:46.529
100%. None of this, oh, well, that's cool that

01:18:46.529 --> 01:18:48.710
you took the class, but sorry, it doesn't count.

01:18:48.850 --> 01:18:52.720
No, I'm sorry. It really should. It should. That

01:18:52.720 --> 01:18:56.720
should 100 % be a... With this restructuring

01:18:56.720 --> 01:19:02.520
of the DOE, that should be a thing. They should

01:19:02.520 --> 01:19:04.840
do more to promote kids to be able to push these

01:19:04.840 --> 01:19:08.560
things that they're into. I would love to see...

01:19:08.560 --> 01:19:11.180
Out in your way, do they have a lot of trade

01:19:11.180 --> 01:19:15.680
schools for high school kids to go to? My way,

01:19:15.779 --> 01:19:18.779
because I'm in an academia center, they look

01:19:18.779 --> 01:19:22.779
down upon them. Not surprised. The part that

01:19:22.779 --> 01:19:24.560
always pissed me off was that if I went to a

01:19:24.560 --> 01:19:27.079
regular high school, I couldn't take classes

01:19:27.079 --> 01:19:30.619
in like automotive stuff or welding or like we

01:19:30.619 --> 01:19:32.619
have a separate agricultural high school around

01:19:32.619 --> 01:19:34.500
here. So if you want to do anything with like

01:19:34.500 --> 01:19:36.439
farm animals, farming, raising animals, stuff

01:19:36.439 --> 01:19:39.680
like that, they wouldn't even touch it. You couldn't

01:19:39.680 --> 01:19:42.140
even step on. You couldn't even grow plants at

01:19:42.140 --> 01:19:45.140
the high school I went to. We have a whole college

01:19:45.140 --> 01:19:50.260
that's basically like for trades and. agriculture

01:19:50.260 --> 01:19:52.680
more or less yeah because it but it's a whole

01:19:52.680 --> 01:19:55.500
college yeah it takes a lot it actually farming

01:19:55.500 --> 01:19:58.819
is actually surprisingly involved yeah you know

01:19:58.819 --> 01:19:59.920
it used to be something that was taught down

01:19:59.920 --> 01:20:01.739
from person to person because it was so freaking

01:20:01.739 --> 01:20:06.279
involved around here it was so distant that like

01:20:06.279 --> 01:20:08.159
they would kind of push you away from going down

01:20:08.159 --> 01:20:11.300
those roads so so sorry if i'm a little biased

01:20:11.300 --> 01:20:12.699
on some of this stuff i know there's a lot of

01:20:12.699 --> 01:20:14.100
areas of the country where it's a lot more balanced

01:20:14.100 --> 01:20:17.960
and i appreciate y 'all but you know unfortunately

01:20:17.960 --> 01:20:25.840
not around here Schools that have FFA programs

01:20:25.840 --> 01:20:30.920
are great, but they're few and far between in

01:20:30.920 --> 01:20:35.140
the ones where they're able to go and do a lot

01:20:35.140 --> 01:20:38.079
of the activities where the FFA would matter.

01:20:41.739 --> 01:20:45.119
Because, yeah, it's important. FFA, 4 -H, all

01:20:45.119 --> 01:20:48.399
those kind of programs. Because, yes, without

01:20:48.399 --> 01:20:52.560
farmers, we don't eat. How am I supposed to keep

01:20:52.560 --> 01:20:57.000
this bodacious bod in check? I like to eat. What?

01:20:57.699 --> 01:21:03.460
I have a fuel tank that needs supplied. To quote

01:21:03.460 --> 01:21:10.479
Patrick Starr, but I'm gonna starve. Is mayonnaise

01:21:10.479 --> 01:21:14.260
an instrument? Is mayonnaise an instrument? I

01:21:14.260 --> 01:21:19.619
love that one. Yeah. I will be... quoting Patrick

01:21:19.619 --> 01:21:22.359
star and SpongeBob until the day I die. And I'm

01:21:22.359 --> 01:21:25.060
okay with this. I'll probably some kind of a

01:21:25.060 --> 01:21:28.720
quote on my deathbed. No, I know. I know. Damn

01:21:28.720 --> 01:21:34.899
it. Damn it. You there. Show me them titties

01:21:34.899 --> 01:21:41.000
before I go. Give me one last yank. Would you?

01:21:51.100 --> 01:21:55.500
I love the chat. Oh, the fact that's my son is

01:21:55.500 --> 01:21:57.680
even better. You know, the fact that your son

01:21:57.680 --> 01:22:02.680
has that name in chat. I know. Is that something?

01:22:02.920 --> 01:22:05.220
I'm not going to bring it up, but I apologize

01:22:05.220 --> 01:22:07.340
to the people listening on audio. So just so

01:22:07.340 --> 01:22:08.939
you guys know, we do have, we live stream these

01:22:08.939 --> 01:22:11.659
when we do them now. So we do have a chat box.

01:22:11.819 --> 01:22:15.899
People get to see us on Twitch. God, not that

01:22:15.899 --> 01:22:20.779
chat. Don't say that about my son, Osai. Anyways,

01:22:21.079 --> 01:22:23.199
so that's why sometimes you'll hear us laugh

01:22:23.199 --> 01:22:25.560
at the stuff going on in the background. We stream

01:22:25.560 --> 01:22:28.199
this whenever we do the episode live, so that

01:22:28.199 --> 01:22:29.939
way we get more conversation. Today is the day

01:22:29.939 --> 01:22:37.119
Osai ends up on the list. Wee -woo. Wee -woo.

01:22:42.260 --> 01:22:46.060
All right, so degradation of quality in the education

01:22:46.060 --> 01:22:50.500
system. Some of the concerns that we've had to

01:22:50.500 --> 01:22:53.079
endure are declining test scores, achievement

01:22:53.079 --> 01:22:58.899
gaps, lack of global competitiveness. So consider

01:22:58.899 --> 01:23:02.920
what a lot of Asian countries are doing, where

01:23:02.920 --> 01:23:04.640
they're focusing on two different avenues. Either

01:23:04.640 --> 01:23:06.060
one, they're focusing on having their kids be

01:23:06.060 --> 01:23:09.479
really good academically. and being very strict

01:23:09.479 --> 01:23:11.560
about it, or option two, being very good business

01:23:11.560 --> 01:23:14.739
-minded and oriented, which neither one of them

01:23:14.739 --> 01:23:18.600
is the ideal way of doing it, but, and we'll

01:23:18.600 --> 01:23:20.319
give them credit, at least they're making them

01:23:20.319 --> 01:23:22.859
being really good at math and science, whereas

01:23:22.859 --> 01:23:27.600
our kids, not for nothing. They suck at a lot

01:23:27.600 --> 01:23:30.380
of stuff. It's because, unfortunately, this Common

01:23:30.380 --> 01:23:32.699
Core stuff is crap, I'll just say it. It's not

01:23:32.699 --> 01:23:35.739
worth it. 100 % it is. But also, our tests don't

01:23:35.739 --> 01:23:38.260
really enforce anything. It's not anything of

01:23:38.260 --> 01:23:41.619
matter. They focus so much. And our kids have

01:23:41.619 --> 01:23:45.539
way too much time off from school. I never in

01:23:45.539 --> 01:23:50.920
my life thought that I would say that. A restructure

01:23:50.920 --> 01:23:53.880
that's been kind of getting floated around is

01:23:53.880 --> 01:23:57.760
doing three weeks on one week off all year long.

01:24:02.939 --> 01:24:09.789
I'm not against it. I don't think. Well, I would

01:24:09.789 --> 01:24:11.090
agree with you. I feel like kids having that

01:24:11.090 --> 01:24:13.229
summer off, it just totally tunes off their brain.

01:24:14.109 --> 01:24:16.770
Because you're spending the first month or two

01:24:16.770 --> 01:24:20.350
reiterating what they learned throughout some

01:24:20.350 --> 01:24:21.750
of the year before. And they're not going to

01:24:21.750 --> 01:24:24.289
remember. That's two months down the drain. Well,

01:24:24.310 --> 01:24:26.890
think about this, right? So for an adult human,

01:24:27.090 --> 01:24:31.310
going on vacation for a couple of weeks is not

01:24:31.310 --> 01:24:34.810
a big portion of your life. But for a 10 -year

01:24:34.810 --> 01:24:38.979
-old, To go on vacation for three months. That's

01:24:38.979 --> 01:24:40.619
like you or I. That's a chunk. That's like imagine

01:24:40.619 --> 01:24:42.699
if you or I walked off the job for six months

01:24:42.699 --> 01:24:46.199
to a year. And I expect to go right back in running.

01:24:47.399 --> 01:24:49.979
Yeah. I'll be honest with you. I'm going to be

01:24:49.979 --> 01:24:51.659
like, this chair feels weird. I don't even know

01:24:51.659 --> 01:24:52.760
where to fucking come in. What do we have to

01:24:52.760 --> 01:24:55.340
be in at eight o 'clock? No. I don't even remember

01:24:55.340 --> 01:24:57.319
my login. Like after being there for a couple

01:24:57.319 --> 01:24:59.680
of weeks, let alone six months to a year. People

01:24:59.680 --> 01:25:01.819
forget that time is relative to the proportion

01:25:01.819 --> 01:25:04.420
of time that you've been alive. So for those

01:25:04.420 --> 01:25:07.010
kids. I remember going back to school at great

01:25:07.010 --> 01:25:08.930
that I'm like, like I was good at academics.

01:25:09.289 --> 01:25:12.369
Even I was like, fuck this coming back in after

01:25:12.369 --> 01:25:14.210
the summer. I was like, no, this is ridiculous.

01:25:15.069 --> 01:25:17.369
This is insane. They should be having, they should

01:25:17.369 --> 01:25:21.170
have more vacations, but spread out. Yeah. You

01:25:21.170 --> 01:25:23.590
know, three weeks on one week off, you know,

01:25:23.609 --> 01:25:27.329
I'd be okay with that. And it's continual. So

01:25:27.329 --> 01:25:30.069
no more summer break. Yeah. Cause you don't get

01:25:30.069 --> 01:25:32.829
a break when you go to a job. You work unless

01:25:32.829 --> 01:25:36.109
you're a school teacher, but. Yeah. Which most

01:25:36.109 --> 01:25:38.250
of them have jobs over the summer anyway, like

01:25:38.250 --> 01:25:40.510
I did. It's got its pros, it's got its cons,

01:25:40.649 --> 01:25:44.189
but I mean, it's something that could be debated

01:25:44.189 --> 01:25:48.850
on. And yeah, that's how a lot of private schools

01:25:48.850 --> 01:25:51.689
do it. It's how a lot of the charter schools

01:25:51.689 --> 01:25:54.689
run. I don't even know why colleges do that.

01:25:54.750 --> 01:25:59.420
Daycare schools, colleges, they run. through

01:25:59.420 --> 01:26:01.340
the summer too but i don't know why a lot of

01:26:01.340 --> 01:26:02.880
colleges don't run through the summer as well

01:26:02.880 --> 01:26:04.739
like i feel like we should get rid of that whole

01:26:04.739 --> 01:26:08.340
like two semester idea yeah i think that's pretty

01:26:08.340 --> 01:26:10.399
dumb back to quarters i don't know why they got

01:26:10.399 --> 01:26:13.779
away from that um because they're academics they

01:26:13.779 --> 01:26:17.239
know better that's right they're smarter than

01:26:17.239 --> 01:26:21.880
us yeah uh the impact of socioeconomic factors

01:26:21.880 --> 01:26:25.340
on educational outcomes the fact that uh the

01:26:25.340 --> 01:26:30.130
higher tax areas produce better Grades for the

01:26:30.130 --> 01:26:34.250
students. We're showing that that's not always

01:26:34.250 --> 01:26:37.670
the case. It's not a factor of money. It's a

01:26:37.670 --> 01:26:41.470
factor of time. Yeah. In more areas that have

01:26:41.470 --> 01:26:44.050
more money, more often there's going to be a

01:26:44.050 --> 01:26:46.210
one breadwinner household to where there's another

01:26:46.210 --> 01:26:48.989
parent home and more involved with the child's

01:26:48.989 --> 01:26:52.649
education process. And that's the key. The problem

01:26:52.649 --> 01:26:56.229
I have seen more often is the fact of parents

01:26:56.229 --> 01:26:58.170
being so busy working or doing other things.

01:26:58.590 --> 01:27:00.289
that they're not actively involved in their child's

01:27:00.289 --> 01:27:04.409
education. Whereas with a two -parent household

01:27:04.409 --> 01:27:06.890
where one of them is not working, it pretty much

01:27:06.890 --> 01:27:08.689
guarantees that one of them is at least half

01:27:08.689 --> 01:27:11.649
-assed, at least trying somewhat, or at least

01:27:11.649 --> 01:27:16.970
there. If there is a parent that is engaged with

01:27:16.970 --> 01:27:23.210
the kids in their school work, the outcome is

01:27:23.210 --> 01:27:26.250
vastly different than a kid that's just left

01:27:26.250 --> 01:27:30.199
to their own devices to... Try because most kids

01:27:30.199 --> 01:27:31.619
are not going to regulate themselves going to

01:27:31.619 --> 01:27:35.520
school. And like most won't some one out of a

01:27:35.520 --> 01:27:37.760
hundred might. Yeah. You know, you probably get

01:27:37.760 --> 01:27:45.079
honestly 5%. Yeah. Realistically. The rise of

01:27:45.079 --> 01:27:47.920
for -profit education and the effects of that

01:27:47.920 --> 01:27:50.680
on the quality of education. Oh, a hundred percent.

01:27:52.279 --> 01:27:55.000
When they start to focus on profits over outcome.

01:27:55.460 --> 01:27:58.449
Yeah. The kids lose every time. And that's the

01:27:58.449 --> 01:28:01.569
current high school standards for 90 % of the

01:28:01.569 --> 01:28:04.189
schools in the country is because their profit

01:28:04.189 --> 01:28:06.949
is based off of the bonuses the teachers get

01:28:06.949 --> 01:28:09.090
and the school gets for how proficient they are

01:28:09.090 --> 01:28:12.430
with state and or federal testing. So it's a

01:28:12.430 --> 01:28:16.390
money game. I hate to say it. Yep. And off of

01:28:16.390 --> 01:28:18.930
that, the ever increasing cost of higher education

01:28:18.930 --> 01:28:22.189
and its effects on the population. Yeah, it's

01:28:22.189 --> 01:28:24.270
great. If you want to go be an engineer, a doctor,

01:28:24.329 --> 01:28:26.920
a lawyer. you're going to come out with damn

01:28:26.920 --> 01:28:29.680
near 200 grand worth of student debt. Isn't that

01:28:29.680 --> 01:28:31.920
great? Actually, that's a low number for doctor

01:28:31.920 --> 01:28:36.439
or lawyer. A lot of doctors, you know, veterinarians

01:28:36.439 --> 01:28:38.300
in my area are over half a million dollars in

01:28:38.300 --> 01:28:43.079
debt typically. Yep. But veterinarians in my

01:28:43.079 --> 01:28:46.399
area, they charge a couple hundred dollars an

01:28:46.399 --> 01:28:51.000
hour for basic stuff. I mean, like, that's basic.

01:28:51.140 --> 01:28:54.319
Well, now we know why they have to. Well, everyone

01:28:54.319 --> 01:28:56.479
wonders why the cost of things have gone up.

01:28:56.560 --> 01:29:00.760
It is correlative. There's your word of the day.

01:29:02.680 --> 01:29:06.399
These doctors and lawyers have to charge high

01:29:06.399 --> 01:29:09.439
rates to pay off the student loans that they

01:29:09.439 --> 01:29:12.899
have accrued. Well, it's because those colleges

01:29:12.899 --> 01:29:15.539
are just allowed to put whatever price tag they

01:29:15.539 --> 01:29:17.420
want on it, which is fine, but there's no incentive

01:29:17.420 --> 01:29:19.100
to start another college to compete with them.

01:29:19.300 --> 01:29:21.779
And those colleges keep getting money from donors.

01:29:22.350 --> 01:29:23.770
And those donors are able to give them money

01:29:23.770 --> 01:29:27.029
so they have even more money. It's this revolving

01:29:27.029 --> 01:29:28.789
door of every year it will cost more whether

01:29:28.789 --> 01:29:31.670
you do anything about it or not. But it also

01:29:31.670 --> 01:29:33.529
comes back down to the Department of Education.

01:29:35.350 --> 01:29:37.909
They don't set standards. They don't set limits

01:29:37.909 --> 01:29:42.649
on what can be charged for tuition. So it's a

01:29:42.649 --> 01:29:45.310
combination. So one of the problems we had is

01:29:45.310 --> 01:29:48.229
back in the 80s, we started giving out Pell Grants

01:29:48.229 --> 01:29:50.250
to kids that did state testing and federal testing

01:29:50.250 --> 01:29:53.199
and stuff like that. And the problem is, a lot

01:29:53.199 --> 01:29:56.460
of kids were just getting not only grants, but

01:29:56.460 --> 01:29:58.840
also FAFSA and federal funding that was automatically

01:29:58.840 --> 01:30:02.180
approved. Which meant basically any kid could

01:30:02.180 --> 01:30:04.199
go to college, but they never worried about paying

01:30:04.199 --> 01:30:07.039
it back. Well, back when they first started the

01:30:07.039 --> 01:30:08.640
program, you could have colleges where you could

01:30:08.640 --> 01:30:10.859
just work at McDonald's and then pay off your

01:30:10.859 --> 01:30:12.420
college and still have an apartment and you were

01:30:12.420 --> 01:30:16.739
fine. Nowadays? When the average kid in college

01:30:16.739 --> 01:30:19.180
makes probably 15 an hour 16 an hour and that

01:30:19.180 --> 01:30:22.199
college costs 30 grand a year For like an average

01:30:22.199 --> 01:30:24.119
State College 20 30 grand something that probably

01:30:24.119 --> 01:30:28.760
probably more like 20 Good fucking luck You're

01:30:28.760 --> 01:30:32.779
not doing that. There's no way No, it's one of

01:30:32.779 --> 01:30:35.039
those things where every year unfortunately that

01:30:35.039 --> 01:30:37.159
value of education becomes lower because more

01:30:37.159 --> 01:30:39.300
people have that degree So therefore you have

01:30:39.300 --> 01:30:41.020
to push higher to get the equivalent value. You're

01:30:41.020 --> 01:30:44.380
always chasing behind the ball And unfortunately,

01:30:44.600 --> 01:30:49.140
not always, but for a lot of these systems, for

01:30:49.140 --> 01:30:50.539
a lot of these degrees, there are more people

01:30:50.539 --> 01:30:54.439
entering those than there are leaving. Because

01:30:54.439 --> 01:30:56.739
in an academic world, people can work until their

01:30:56.739 --> 01:30:59.479
70s. Sometimes even I've seen professors in their

01:30:59.479 --> 01:31:03.380
80s. So here's the problem. He wasn't a professor,

01:31:03.500 --> 01:31:06.659
but we just had a guy retire 84 years old. That's

01:31:06.659 --> 01:31:09.340
what I'm talking about. And he worked there for

01:31:09.340 --> 01:31:16.890
60. God, 62 or 64 years? So here's the other

01:31:16.890 --> 01:31:20.649
problem with the economy. When it comes to non

01:31:20.649 --> 01:31:23.109
-labor jobs, because they can work so late, that

01:31:23.109 --> 01:31:26.550
means that job isn't open until 20 years after

01:31:26.550 --> 01:31:29.569
that job would normally be open. So that means

01:31:29.569 --> 01:31:31.229
for the last 20 years, somebody that could have

01:31:31.229 --> 01:31:33.550
gotten that job and got up the economic ladder

01:31:33.550 --> 01:31:37.010
can't. So we have this really weird problem of

01:31:37.010 --> 01:31:38.869
there will always be more people entering these

01:31:38.869 --> 01:31:41.090
highly academic jobs than there will be retiring

01:31:41.090 --> 01:31:44.939
or leaving. So therefore their value goes down

01:31:44.939 --> 01:31:48.819
over time. And when the value goes down over

01:31:48.819 --> 01:31:52.359
time and the cost keeps going up, people wonder

01:31:52.359 --> 01:31:55.119
why they're upside down on their loans and they'll

01:31:55.119 --> 01:32:00.680
never be able to go anywhere. You know, so it's

01:32:00.680 --> 01:32:02.119
just something to consider to where for a lot

01:32:02.119 --> 01:32:04.300
of people, make sure if you're going to go to

01:32:04.300 --> 01:32:06.020
college, make sure it's actually a marketable

01:32:06.020 --> 01:32:07.260
skill that you're going to be able to get hired

01:32:07.260 --> 01:32:10.369
at. And also, don't go into debt for $200 ,000

01:32:10.369 --> 01:32:12.090
or $300 ,000, $400 ,000. I'm just going to be

01:32:12.090 --> 01:32:15.750
making a boatload of money. Yeah. Because I'm

01:32:15.750 --> 01:32:18.270
very fortunate that I haven't accrued any college

01:32:18.270 --> 01:32:21.430
debt because I was smart. I will tell you right

01:32:21.430 --> 01:32:24.470
now, I have friends that are lawyers. I make

01:32:24.470 --> 01:32:26.069
more money than them working on cars because

01:32:26.069 --> 01:32:30.729
I don't have debt. That's insane. Just saying.

01:32:31.889 --> 01:32:35.829
The role of technology in education. Let's touch

01:32:35.829 --> 01:32:42.770
on our lovely friend, AI. The use of AI for and

01:32:42.770 --> 01:32:47.869
in education, I think will probably change the

01:32:47.869 --> 01:32:54.270
outcome of education. A lot of people are starting

01:32:54.270 --> 01:32:56.989
to kind of get the idea that it could replace

01:32:56.989 --> 01:33:01.590
education altogether in some facet. It's just

01:33:01.590 --> 01:33:04.670
going to be a matter of we just need to teach

01:33:04.670 --> 01:33:09.029
humans how to use devices to a certain extent.

01:33:10.430 --> 01:33:12.850
And then they'll get all the information they

01:33:12.850 --> 01:33:17.729
need. And oh, God, it's WALL -E all over. That's

01:33:17.729 --> 01:33:21.310
kind of the problem. It's a good and bad. I feel

01:33:21.310 --> 01:33:25.770
like AI as a reinforcement tool, if it pulls

01:33:25.770 --> 01:33:28.109
from the curriculum and the books and everything

01:33:28.109 --> 01:33:30.479
that's being taught by the teacher. I'm for it.

01:33:30.500 --> 01:33:33.779
The problem I have with AI is it can get unbiased

01:33:33.779 --> 01:33:35.819
or it could be very biased out of control very

01:33:35.819 --> 01:33:41.760
quickly. Or the other issue is it can lead to

01:33:41.760 --> 01:33:44.439
a scenario where it confuses one word for another

01:33:44.439 --> 01:33:47.479
word and then completely ruins, you know, a lot

01:33:47.479 --> 01:33:50.619
of education, a lot of standards. It's one of

01:33:50.619 --> 01:33:52.880
those things where as an aid, however, it could

01:33:52.880 --> 01:33:56.739
be amazing. Because for example, using it instead

01:33:56.739 --> 01:34:00.020
of a tutor. 100 % agree with that. So I actually

01:34:00.020 --> 01:34:02.100
watched somebody. They were using, I think, Grok

01:34:02.100 --> 01:34:05.560
with a text -to -speech. They were recording

01:34:05.560 --> 01:34:09.340
a professor's lecture, and they would record

01:34:09.340 --> 01:34:11.420
it to text, and then they'd ask Grok to make

01:34:11.420 --> 01:34:14.359
an overview, and it would do like a summary overview,

01:34:14.560 --> 01:34:16.180
and then they would ask Grok to make note cards,

01:34:16.359 --> 01:34:18.720
like flashcards. So then they would literally

01:34:18.720 --> 01:34:21.300
just take a nap during it, go home, look at it,

01:34:21.359 --> 01:34:23.600
figure it out, listen to it, and then it'd be

01:34:23.600 --> 01:34:26.000
all set, and it'd be way more productive than

01:34:26.000 --> 01:34:30.329
just being there. Trying to listen, which I believe

01:34:30.329 --> 01:34:33.770
has options. That is awesome. I wish I had that.

01:34:34.529 --> 01:34:37.550
That'd be great. Because especially as dumbass

01:34:37.550 --> 01:34:39.689
me, first semester college was like, I'll take

01:34:39.689 --> 01:34:41.729
an English class at six in the morning. You know

01:34:41.729 --> 01:34:43.210
what I did at six in the morning during a college

01:34:43.210 --> 01:34:48.630
class? You were trying to sleep. Seriously, I

01:34:48.630 --> 01:34:50.510
got yelled at like a couple of times for falling

01:34:50.510 --> 01:34:52.069
asleep. I'm like, sorry, it's six in the morning.

01:34:52.109 --> 01:34:54.310
They're like, why did you take a six a .m. college

01:34:54.310 --> 01:34:57.039
class? And I was like, I. Thought an 18 -year

01:34:57.039 --> 01:34:58.779
-old me would be way more energized than I am.

01:34:59.640 --> 01:35:04.840
Right? No. My 18 -year -old can barely get out

01:35:04.840 --> 01:35:07.140
of bed at 6 o 'clock in the morning, let alone

01:35:07.140 --> 01:35:09.319
10 in the morning some days. You know what, though?

01:35:09.359 --> 01:35:11.140
People forget that humans are naturally that

01:35:11.140 --> 01:35:15.899
way. Yeah, I know. Some humans can fire off right

01:35:15.899 --> 01:35:18.460
in the morning. Other humans are designed to

01:35:18.460 --> 01:35:21.539
be up late at night. If you wake me up early

01:35:21.539 --> 01:35:26.680
in the morning, I'm dangerous. I have not processed

01:35:26.680 --> 01:35:29.260
who I am yet or what's going on. You might be

01:35:29.260 --> 01:35:31.779
a threat. Like, if you wake me up in the middle

01:35:31.779 --> 01:35:35.899
of the night, I am not pleasant. So, everyone's

01:35:35.899 --> 01:35:38.079
got their own thing. That's why I really think...

01:35:38.079 --> 01:35:43.760
Now, if I get woken up certain ways in the morning,

01:35:43.939 --> 01:35:46.600
that I am quite pleasant. Hell yeah, brother.

01:35:46.720 --> 01:35:51.340
And I'm very nice to be around. Yes. But that's...

01:35:51.909 --> 01:35:53.689
That's, you know, that's not for the podcast

01:35:53.689 --> 01:36:00.609
after show, but yes, but no, it's more the case

01:36:00.609 --> 01:36:03.010
of that's what I really feel like for. I hate

01:36:03.010 --> 01:36:05.989
to say it. I do think that because a curriculum

01:36:05.989 --> 01:36:08.130
should be all online. I do feel like if the kids

01:36:08.130 --> 01:36:10.590
want to stay home and just do the work. If you're

01:36:10.590 --> 01:36:11.789
like, yeah, I don't feel like going in today.

01:36:11.850 --> 01:36:14.909
I'd rather do it at home. Catch up. That is one

01:36:14.909 --> 01:36:19.470
thing that the fucking COVID started to show

01:36:19.470 --> 01:36:27.380
that. the the online options are there so sick

01:36:27.380 --> 01:36:30.119
days snow days doesn't matter all that shit can

01:36:30.119 --> 01:36:34.699
kind of go away especially with the ai and intervention

01:36:34.699 --> 01:36:38.460
well this is what i'm getting at i so if i if

01:36:38.460 --> 01:36:42.159
i was president i would introduce a bill where

01:36:42.159 --> 01:36:45.500
the idea is all high school middle school and

01:36:45.500 --> 01:36:48.319
high school classes are to be recorded and posted

01:36:48.319 --> 01:36:52.539
online on the school website all reading materials,

01:36:52.659 --> 01:36:55.979
homework, tests, quizzes, everything is posted

01:36:55.979 --> 01:36:59.380
online as well. That way you have the choice.

01:36:59.880 --> 01:37:02.319
Either you can stay home and watch it either

01:37:02.319 --> 01:37:06.560
live or as a recording, or you can go in and

01:37:06.560 --> 01:37:08.520
take it in person. I'm the kind of person I would

01:37:08.520 --> 01:37:11.579
prefer in person personally. Yeah. Cause that's

01:37:11.579 --> 01:37:13.739
just how I am. But there were days where like

01:37:13.739 --> 01:37:15.819
when I had family members that died and when

01:37:15.819 --> 01:37:18.850
I had shit going on, Or, like, I'll never forget,

01:37:18.890 --> 01:37:21.850
like, my cat passed away. I had him for 21 years.

01:37:22.449 --> 01:37:26.210
He grew up with me. He grew up with me. He was

01:37:26.210 --> 01:37:28.250
my buddy. And when he passed away, I was like,

01:37:28.289 --> 01:37:30.109
I'm not going to school today. Like, fuck that.

01:37:30.149 --> 01:37:31.770
I had to go out back and bury him. It was an

01:37:31.770 --> 01:37:34.949
emotional day. I would have loved to be able

01:37:34.949 --> 01:37:36.609
to be like, all right, at least I can do it online.

01:37:36.949 --> 01:37:38.909
I can let my teachers know, hey, this happened.

01:37:39.010 --> 01:37:41.810
I won't be in. Because, honestly, at least in

01:37:41.810 --> 01:37:44.069
my experience in college, do you know how many

01:37:44.069 --> 01:37:46.350
professors, as long as you do the tests on time,

01:37:46.699 --> 01:37:48.659
They don't give a flying fuck. They're like,

01:37:48.739 --> 01:37:51.140
yeah, things happen. Cool, whatever. Let me know

01:37:51.140 --> 01:37:55.039
later on. You know, we'll figure it out. That

01:37:55.039 --> 01:37:56.600
way, I also feel like that's where the parents

01:37:56.600 --> 01:37:59.239
can also keep the kids in line. To say, like,

01:37:59.300 --> 01:38:01.739
I know you have a test today. I know what's being

01:38:01.739 --> 01:38:04.119
taught in that class. Maybe it's because if I

01:38:04.119 --> 01:38:05.779
was a parent, I'd be really fucking nosy, too.

01:38:06.199 --> 01:38:07.960
And want to know, be like, what are you actually

01:38:07.960 --> 01:38:10.220
teaching my kid? Because I don't trust them.

01:38:10.460 --> 01:38:12.319
After the shit I've seen with sex ed classes

01:38:12.319 --> 01:38:17.699
and other stuff. That's just atrocious. I still

01:38:17.699 --> 01:38:21.659
can't wait to see you become a parent. That terrifies

01:38:21.659 --> 01:38:25.239
me. Don't you fucking dare. No, no, no, no, no,

01:38:25.239 --> 01:38:29.260
no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Put that away. Put

01:38:29.260 --> 01:38:31.140
that back or so. Help me. So help me. Put that

01:38:31.140 --> 01:38:38.199
away. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

01:38:38.199 --> 01:38:39.239
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

01:38:39.239 --> 01:38:41.619
no. Maybe someday, but not, not, not anytime

01:38:41.619 --> 01:38:45.600
soon. My problem is I will say this if and when

01:38:45.600 --> 01:38:47.579
I ever become a father I am so sorry to whatever

01:38:47.579 --> 01:38:51.319
school system has my kid Because I would be that

01:38:51.319 --> 01:38:55.760
parent that would be up your ass Thanks, I'm

01:38:55.760 --> 01:39:01.520
sorry. I will I will say that in advance Yeah,

01:39:01.600 --> 01:39:03.359
but no I don't know why they don't use these

01:39:03.359 --> 01:39:06.270
resources though for these kids Because imagine...

01:39:06.270 --> 01:39:08.829
I think it's mostly because the teachers don't

01:39:08.829 --> 01:39:10.289
know how to use them, and they're not being shown

01:39:10.289 --> 01:39:11.710
how to use them. But most of the teachers now

01:39:11.710 --> 01:39:14.489
at this point are like 40 and under. At least

01:39:14.489 --> 01:39:16.270
that I'm seeing around here. Like, just fucking

01:39:16.270 --> 01:39:18.590
learn. It's not hard. You don't even have to

01:39:18.590 --> 01:39:20.470
do anything. Most of the teachers use the same

01:39:20.470 --> 01:39:23.229
test from like five or ten years in a row. The

01:39:23.229 --> 01:39:25.090
last 20 years. Yeah, but they never change them,

01:39:25.149 --> 01:39:26.689
which is kind of fucking lazy. Like, not for

01:39:26.689 --> 01:39:32.890
nothing, but come on. Yeah. I saw the best trivial

01:39:32.890 --> 01:39:36.579
pursuit question. on facebook yesterday oh it

01:39:36.579 --> 01:39:41.720
was from 2008 it said which actor has not been

01:39:41.720 --> 01:39:46.159
batman ben affleck christian bale val kilmer

01:39:46.159 --> 01:39:55.060
george clooney and um who was the other one i

01:39:55.060 --> 01:40:01.060
think that was it uh buddy but it's like This

01:40:01.060 --> 01:40:03.659
is historically inaccurate now. All they're missing

01:40:03.659 --> 01:40:06.579
is what's his name that was just Robert Pattinson.

01:40:08.640 --> 01:40:10.939
Oh, yeah. The one they're missing. Adam West.

01:40:11.000 --> 01:40:13.359
That's true. I forgot about Adam West. Adam West.

01:40:13.359 --> 01:40:15.079
That was the other one. That was the other one.

01:40:15.140 --> 01:40:19.579
Yes. Oh, Adam West. Yes. Is it sad that I know

01:40:19.579 --> 01:40:21.659
Adam West better from Family Guy? Thank you.

01:40:22.920 --> 01:40:25.619
Right. Because the Adam West Batmans, they're

01:40:25.619 --> 01:40:27.579
so funny. They're stupid, but they're funny.

01:40:27.739 --> 01:40:32.630
Yeah. They're terrible. God. But they set the

01:40:32.630 --> 01:40:34.670
stage. Quick aside, because I want to have this

01:40:34.670 --> 01:40:38.090
discussion. Okay. I still vote Christian Bale

01:40:38.090 --> 01:40:42.829
is the best Batman ever. I have to agree. He

01:40:42.829 --> 01:40:46.689
was my favorite one. As long as we're on the

01:40:46.689 --> 01:40:55.729
same page. I'm happy with this. Oh, shit. Did

01:40:55.729 --> 01:41:02.970
the stream end? Let me check. Oh, God. Oh, nope.

01:41:03.109 --> 01:41:05.529
I think it might have. No, it is not. I'm sorry.

01:41:06.170 --> 01:41:08.630
What happened? Oops. Sorry about that, guys.

01:41:11.010 --> 01:41:15.550
Yep. Sorry. I hit something. Well, what did you

01:41:15.550 --> 01:41:20.590
hit? I don't know. Well, hit the not that. I

01:41:20.590 --> 01:41:24.310
will hit the not that next time. I don't know.

01:41:25.850 --> 01:41:30.149
Can't have a show without a pippage. A pippening.

01:41:33.210 --> 01:41:36.470
Don't push the buttons, Pip. Say no to the buttons.

01:41:38.689 --> 01:41:47.449
Historical inequities shaped the current education

01:41:47.449 --> 01:41:51.250
system. How have historical inequalities, I think

01:41:51.250 --> 01:41:53.649
you meant to say there, shaped the current education

01:41:53.649 --> 01:42:00.850
system? There is a bit of a problem there because,

01:42:01.029 --> 01:42:04.510
okay, I will give some credence to the fact that

01:42:04.510 --> 01:42:07.729
there have been issues with underfunded areas

01:42:07.729 --> 01:42:11.829
not getting basic resources. Because I have seen

01:42:11.829 --> 01:42:13.789
points like, look at a town like Flint, Michigan,

01:42:13.890 --> 01:42:16.229
for example, to where I remember there were issues

01:42:16.229 --> 01:42:17.630
not only with the water system, but also not

01:42:17.630 --> 01:42:20.050
having enough tax revenue to have actual textbooks

01:42:20.050 --> 01:42:23.369
to be able to have working chalkboards or dry

01:42:23.369 --> 01:42:25.609
erase boards, stuff like that. there are many

01:42:25.609 --> 01:42:28.909
areas that up until a few years ago they really

01:42:28.909 --> 01:42:30.630
struggled to have basic supplies for those teachers

01:42:30.630 --> 01:42:34.090
and i find it very very very very wrong that

01:42:34.090 --> 01:42:35.729
teachers have to pay out of their own pocket

01:42:35.729 --> 01:42:38.489
for those supplies for the classroom when i'm

01:42:38.489 --> 01:42:40.149
already paying taxes to have that stuff in there

01:42:40.149 --> 01:42:43.930
anyway right i always found that to be incredibly

01:42:43.930 --> 01:42:47.449
rude and wrong that shouldn't be the case so

01:42:47.449 --> 01:42:49.670
there were has some historical inequities in

01:42:49.670 --> 01:42:53.680
terms or inequalities in terms of the resources

01:42:53.680 --> 01:42:57.319
available for those schools. But I do have to

01:42:57.319 --> 01:42:58.880
place some credence to at the end of the day,

01:42:58.979 --> 01:43:02.239
having a good teacher is far more about that

01:43:02.239 --> 01:43:04.199
person's capability as a teacher rather than

01:43:04.199 --> 01:43:06.479
them just going to a good school. Some of the

01:43:06.479 --> 01:43:08.680
best teachers I ever had were not actually teachers.

01:43:09.180 --> 01:43:10.939
They were just good people that wanted to help

01:43:10.939 --> 01:43:12.979
other people that volunteered and that did stuff.

01:43:13.659 --> 01:43:15.340
And some of the worst teachers I ever had were

01:43:15.340 --> 01:43:16.619
some of the ones that were most highly educated.

01:43:17.420 --> 01:43:18.880
Because quite frankly, they had to put their

01:43:18.880 --> 01:43:21.079
ass. And maybe it's because I come from, like,

01:43:21.100 --> 01:43:22.699
a farming background. I'm very, like, practical,

01:43:22.840 --> 01:43:27.000
you know, real. And I just can't stand, like,

01:43:27.020 --> 01:43:29.420
higher academia. I tried to. Didn't work out

01:43:29.420 --> 01:43:33.100
for me. Yeah. But that's just... Pros and cons.

01:43:34.239 --> 01:43:36.319
Pros and cons of federal involvement in education.

01:43:39.859 --> 01:43:43.000
I think we've spent the last hour and a half

01:43:43.000 --> 01:43:47.439
talking about that, so... No. There are no pros.

01:43:48.569 --> 01:43:50.810
To be real, I really don't think there are any

01:43:50.810 --> 01:43:55.529
pros because before outside of. Outside of possibly

01:43:55.529 --> 01:43:59.430
no child left behind was a crock of shit. Yeah,

01:43:59.489 --> 01:44:03.329
it did not work. No, but they meant to say was

01:44:03.329 --> 01:44:06.170
absolutely every child was left behind. That's

01:44:06.170 --> 01:44:08.470
what it was supposed to be. No child left behind

01:44:08.470 --> 01:44:11.130
was a joke. And by the way, I will always blame

01:44:11.130 --> 01:44:13.770
Michelle Obama for my shitty lunches. Fuck you.

01:44:14.170 --> 01:44:18.130
Yeah, she screwed the lunch program. When so

01:44:18.130 --> 01:44:21.890
many kids depended on those lunches every day

01:44:21.890 --> 01:44:26.590
as their only real food for the day, I'm sorry,

01:44:26.689 --> 01:44:31.029
but no. So a fun fact, this actually really pisses

01:44:31.029 --> 01:44:33.670
me off. Not a single school lunch that I could

01:44:33.670 --> 01:44:36.550
find around here when I was in high school was

01:44:36.550 --> 01:44:38.670
actually nutritionally at all based on what kids

01:44:38.670 --> 01:44:40.430
need. Because you know what they always had a

01:44:40.430 --> 01:44:43.069
lacking of? Protein. You know what they always

01:44:43.069 --> 01:44:45.659
had overabundance of? Carbs. You know what they

01:44:45.659 --> 01:44:48.439
didn't? Carbs and sugar. Yes. So you'd get home

01:44:48.439 --> 01:44:51.279
and crash. You know what we used to have for

01:44:51.279 --> 01:44:54.140
lunch? It was like at least once a week. Fucking

01:44:54.140 --> 01:44:58.279
French toast sticks in a shit ton of maple syrup.

01:44:59.979 --> 01:45:03.039
Yeah. God. You know what that does not do well

01:45:03.039 --> 01:45:06.260
with? Oh, yeah. Most kids. Because the serving

01:45:06.260 --> 01:45:08.300
size was like four or five of the French toast

01:45:08.300 --> 01:45:09.920
sticks that were like huge and a bunch of maple

01:45:09.920 --> 01:45:12.000
syrup. Yeah, you'd be good for an hour and then

01:45:12.000 --> 01:45:14.159
you would fucking crash at like one o 'clock.

01:45:15.279 --> 01:45:17.180
The amount of times I took a nap in history class

01:45:17.180 --> 01:45:20.260
because I was like, I'm out, buddy. We're done.

01:45:21.760 --> 01:45:27.779
I'm going night -night. Yeah. Oh, yeah. And then,

01:45:27.840 --> 01:45:30.000
like, the wheat pizza. I remember reading about

01:45:30.000 --> 01:45:35.739
that. Whoever. Michael Obama did some terrible

01:45:35.739 --> 01:45:43.359
things. Careful. Careful. Careful. Careful. We're

01:45:43.359 --> 01:45:46.859
not. Get a knock on my door. It's going to be

01:45:46.859 --> 01:45:50.680
killing. We are not touching that topic with

01:45:50.680 --> 01:45:53.979
a 10 -foot pole in this podcast. No, because

01:45:53.979 --> 01:45:59.159
they have a pole that touches back. The only

01:45:59.159 --> 01:46:02.800
thing we could touch on is Michelle Macron possibly

01:46:02.800 --> 01:46:04.640
not being a woman, but that's a different thing.

01:46:05.340 --> 01:46:07.819
Not Michelle Macron, whatever her name is. I

01:46:07.819 --> 01:46:11.500
forget her first name, but that's a whole different

01:46:11.500 --> 01:46:13.289
thing. But no, we're not touching the Michelle

01:46:13.289 --> 01:46:16.489
Obama one. I like my life. No, thanks. I choose

01:46:16.489 --> 01:46:21.689
life. Right? Yes. What's the most promising solution

01:46:21.689 --> 01:46:29.550
for improving educational outcome? Power back

01:46:29.550 --> 01:46:33.930
to the people, I think. Yeah. What I would say

01:46:33.930 --> 01:46:36.390
is definitely let high schools compete with one

01:46:36.390 --> 01:46:39.710
another for the opportunity to educate your kid.

01:46:40.990 --> 01:46:43.069
Definitely let them specialize as well. Let these

01:46:43.069 --> 01:46:44.869
high schools become good at certain things. Kind

01:46:44.869 --> 01:46:46.310
of put their money towards what they feel like

01:46:46.310 --> 01:46:50.289
is best. And vote with where you live. If you

01:46:50.289 --> 01:46:52.449
like that school system, live there. If you don't,

01:46:52.449 --> 01:46:55.510
don't. But I guess the biggest thing, and this

01:46:55.510 --> 01:46:57.829
is kind of easy for me to say as an on -parent,

01:46:58.029 --> 01:47:01.130
be involved with your kid's education. If you

01:47:01.130 --> 01:47:03.109
give a shit, be involved. Be on the school board.

01:47:03.310 --> 01:47:05.350
Show up to meetings. Show up to PTO meetings.

01:47:05.489 --> 01:47:10.910
Do stuff. Be there. Because as I learned, Some

01:47:10.910 --> 01:47:13.869
of those parents can be very, very, very persuasive

01:47:13.869 --> 01:47:15.409
in certain things and make things happen that

01:47:15.409 --> 01:47:18.170
you wouldn't even realize as a teacher. Things

01:47:18.170 --> 01:47:22.890
go down. So be involved. That's the biggest thing

01:47:22.890 --> 01:47:26.130
I would say. And also, not for nothing, your

01:47:26.130 --> 01:47:28.529
child's education outside of the school is just

01:47:28.529 --> 01:47:30.729
as important as inside the school. Have them

01:47:30.729 --> 01:47:32.369
take hobbies and other stuff outside of school.

01:47:32.550 --> 01:47:35.649
That was my biggest thing, too, is I took multiple

01:47:35.649 --> 01:47:38.359
instrument lessons. I took karate. I learned

01:47:38.359 --> 01:47:42.199
how to ski and snowboard. By the skin flu? No.

01:47:43.239 --> 01:47:48.159
I did not go to Catholic school, thank you. It's

01:47:48.159 --> 01:47:50.180
the case of I took a lot of things outside of

01:47:50.180 --> 01:47:52.380
school, and I learned stuff around the farm,

01:47:52.420 --> 01:47:53.960
learned how to weld, work on cars, things like

01:47:53.960 --> 01:47:56.420
that. So for me, I was very well -rounded. I'm

01:47:56.420 --> 01:47:57.500
just going to ignore you laughing in the background.

01:47:59.140 --> 01:48:04.840
So it's one of those things where it's easy to

01:48:04.840 --> 01:48:07.649
get wrapped up in. and high school education

01:48:07.649 --> 01:48:09.750
or middle school being their source of education

01:48:09.750 --> 01:48:12.930
the things that these kids will remember outside

01:48:12.930 --> 01:48:15.029
of school are going to be as equally if not more

01:48:15.029 --> 01:48:18.270
important now i know what my girl felt like over

01:48:18.270 --> 01:48:20.250
the weekend i almost choked almost i'm sorry

01:48:20.250 --> 01:48:26.890
buddy sorry little one so what's that ralphie

01:48:26.890 --> 01:48:37.329
mayskit every kiss begins with oh man I love

01:48:37.329 --> 01:48:41.430
that skit. So how has the rise of technology

01:48:41.430 --> 01:48:44.170
affected the education system positively and

01:48:44.170 --> 01:48:49.409
negatively? And a caveat to that, how would you

01:48:49.409 --> 01:48:52.810
feel if your child or how would the children

01:48:52.810 --> 01:48:56.010
feel potentially if their teachers were replaced

01:48:56.010 --> 01:48:59.829
by AI -controlled robots? Ah! Touch in the last

01:48:59.829 --> 01:49:06.439
couple episodes. So. I feel like you can't replace

01:49:06.439 --> 01:49:09.500
a person in an educational system. You can have

01:49:09.500 --> 01:49:12.159
them with a really, really, really good AGI.

01:49:13.779 --> 01:49:17.279
I think there's... Okay, okay. Hear me out. If

01:49:17.279 --> 01:49:19.619
you did a system where the robot was teaching

01:49:19.619 --> 01:49:24.140
to the class as a whole, and the person was identifying

01:49:24.140 --> 01:49:26.260
the kids that needed the separate instructional

01:49:26.260 --> 01:49:29.579
help, that had some questions, comments, concerns,

01:49:29.859 --> 01:49:31.460
I think there's a way to do it where you could

01:49:31.460 --> 01:49:35.539
blend both. but I feel like an education setting

01:49:35.539 --> 01:49:38.239
in a traditional classroom, you're always going

01:49:38.239 --> 01:49:40.319
to need a person to kind of read the room, talk

01:49:40.319 --> 01:49:43.199
to people, see what's up. Maybe there's a day

01:49:43.199 --> 01:49:46.060
where AI becomes good enough to replace people

01:49:46.060 --> 01:49:51.159
with that, but I find that hard to believe, but

01:49:51.159 --> 01:49:53.779
it's possible. Would I feel comfortable with

01:49:53.779 --> 01:49:56.199
that? Really, I don't care how it's done as long

01:49:56.199 --> 01:49:59.060
as the quality of the education is good and my

01:49:59.060 --> 01:50:00.800
kid retains the information and gets something

01:50:00.800 --> 01:50:07.050
from it. But yeah, with AI, I'd rather see AI

01:50:07.050 --> 01:50:10.369
programs be used in text -based to where instead

01:50:10.369 --> 01:50:12.710
of getting textbooks, they get an iPad and it

01:50:12.710 --> 01:50:14.010
has all the textbooks on it and they have an

01:50:14.010 --> 01:50:16.449
AI program built into it that helps them with

01:50:16.449 --> 01:50:18.210
their homework and study and tests and everything.

01:50:18.310 --> 01:50:22.770
That's a different story. I will say giving the

01:50:22.770 --> 01:50:28.130
kids tablets and whatnot with PDFs of all their

01:50:28.130 --> 01:50:33.960
books on it, I very much support that. My lower

01:50:33.960 --> 01:50:37.340
back supports that because I remember essentially

01:50:37.340 --> 01:50:46.500
lugging a military rucksack full of books and

01:50:46.500 --> 01:50:49.579
shit through my high school, carrying all of

01:50:49.579 --> 01:50:53.500
my books around. That had to be a good 40 pounds

01:50:53.500 --> 01:50:56.479
back in the day. I mean, yeah, I was, you know,

01:50:56.500 --> 01:51:01.300
swole as fuck back then, but shit. So some of

01:51:01.300 --> 01:51:04.039
these kids. Can't do that. So I'm learning as

01:51:04.039 --> 01:51:05.659
I'm getting older. I actually have a possible

01:51:05.659 --> 01:51:10.319
rotator cuff injury. Yay. Welcome to the club.

01:51:11.199 --> 01:51:13.460
Ever since I turned 30, it's all fucking downhill.

01:51:13.460 --> 01:51:17.039
It sucks. But yeah, I used to carry like, like

01:51:17.039 --> 01:51:19.880
a male best, like a male bag, kind of like the

01:51:19.880 --> 01:51:23.680
male, you know, mailman bag. And I would have,

01:51:23.699 --> 01:51:25.300
because of all the extra classes I took and all

01:51:25.300 --> 01:51:26.720
the extra stuff and equipment I would carry.

01:51:27.460 --> 01:51:30.159
My bag was sometimes 60 pounds, if not more.

01:51:31.039 --> 01:51:33.380
I also had a bag. I did stuff my friend in it.

01:51:33.579 --> 01:51:37.300
It was made for a mail carrier. So my friend

01:51:37.300 --> 01:51:40.340
Derek literally got into the bag and I closed

01:51:40.340 --> 01:51:43.000
the flap up top and I walked into class and just

01:51:43.000 --> 01:51:45.000
set it down on the counter and just ran away

01:51:45.000 --> 01:51:46.300
from the class. He just popped up and was like,

01:51:46.319 --> 01:51:51.300
hi. It was great. You know what the crazy thing

01:51:51.300 --> 01:51:53.739
is? I still have that bag. The guy that made

01:51:53.739 --> 01:51:55.399
it was a local guy. He was a mail carrier that

01:51:55.399 --> 01:51:58.579
got sick of all the bags getting destroyed. He

01:51:58.579 --> 01:52:02.260
made this indestructible mail carrier bag. I

01:52:02.260 --> 01:52:04.180
love it. One of the best purchases ever. But

01:52:04.180 --> 01:52:07.800
anyways. Very nice. I literally have a rotator

01:52:07.800 --> 01:52:10.020
cuff injury because of all the bullshit I used

01:52:10.020 --> 01:52:14.359
to carry. And I had a teacher. I apologize to

01:52:14.359 --> 01:52:16.899
Mr. Ninos. I have to message him because he's

01:52:16.899 --> 01:52:20.140
one of my favorite teachers ever. He told me,

01:52:20.159 --> 01:52:21.399
that's going to hurt you when you get older.

01:52:21.619 --> 01:52:26.729
And I said, nah, I'll be fine. Son of a bitch.

01:52:26.850 --> 01:52:30.310
He was right. Yeah, no. And something that my

01:52:30.310 --> 01:52:32.470
son just pointed out in chat that the schools

01:52:32.470 --> 01:52:36.590
won't allow AI. When AI is everywhere, they won't

01:52:36.590 --> 01:52:38.090
have a choice. There's going to become a day

01:52:38.090 --> 01:52:40.550
where they won't be able to check for AI. Give

01:52:40.550 --> 01:52:42.850
it six months to a year. I bet you money once

01:52:42.850 --> 01:52:45.689
Grok. Fun little fact. Did you know that Twitter,

01:52:46.489 --> 01:52:50.329
which is X, just got absorbed by Elon's AI division?

01:52:51.869 --> 01:52:53.489
So that's going to be training the new version

01:52:53.489 --> 01:52:55.550
of Grok, which will be out in a few months. I'll

01:52:55.550 --> 01:52:57.750
tell you this right now. Give it six months to

01:52:57.750 --> 01:53:00.850
a year. You will not be able to tell the difference

01:53:00.850 --> 01:53:03.630
between AI and a person and text -based like

01:53:03.630 --> 01:53:08.189
that. Six months to a year. Within a year. What

01:53:08.189 --> 01:53:10.189
else is supposed to happen within a year, Gibbs?

01:53:10.470 --> 01:53:19.909
2026. The singularity. Oh, yeah. Yeah, and then

01:53:19.909 --> 01:53:22.010
after that, our podcast could be just AI episodes

01:53:22.010 --> 01:53:25.880
at this point. Yeah, it'll be AI versions of

01:53:25.880 --> 01:53:28.960
us generating new episodes. So, yeah, good night,

01:53:29.000 --> 01:53:31.079
everyone. It was good while it lasted. We'll

01:53:31.079 --> 01:53:33.960
just have a massive budget upgrade for free.

01:53:36.539 --> 01:53:39.159
Because imagine AI generating these entire episodes.

01:53:41.319 --> 01:53:46.239
I try to imagine AI trying to mimic my sense

01:53:46.239 --> 01:53:49.739
of humor. I think it's going to cause a core

01:53:49.739 --> 01:53:53.020
meltdown. My fucked up sense of humor could be

01:53:53.020 --> 01:53:55.659
the saving grace of humanity. Gibbs, you realize

01:53:55.659 --> 01:54:03.859
that? Here's the best part. I'm not hearing a

01:54:03.859 --> 01:54:07.880
no. Saving grace is a little, little, little.

01:54:08.680 --> 01:54:10.779
By the way, Wookie, I appreciate that comment

01:54:10.779 --> 01:54:12.520
and I will be your emperor. I appreciate it.

01:54:13.000 --> 01:54:18.500
So anyways, but your sense, the problem is if

01:54:18.500 --> 01:54:22.479
everyone had your sense of humor. then the largest

01:54:22.479 --> 01:54:24.420
department on earth would be the HR department.

01:54:24.659 --> 01:54:28.640
We'd all be in jail. That's the problem. Just

01:54:28.640 --> 01:54:31.779
imagine if it got copied and all the AI developed

01:54:31.779 --> 01:54:36.039
my warped sense of humor. Well, the problem is

01:54:36.039 --> 01:54:39.579
it would just be an R -rated AI. I'd open up

01:54:39.579 --> 01:54:41.239
Grok and be like, sup, fucker, what are you doing?

01:54:43.100 --> 01:54:45.140
I'd ask it a question and be like, fucking blow

01:54:45.140 --> 01:54:58.819
me a bitch. Oh, God. You could tell AI -generated

01:54:58.819 --> 01:55:02.199
items much easier. I know, right? It's going

01:55:02.199 --> 01:55:09.479
to be wild. Yeah. So let's go back over the picture

01:55:09.479 --> 01:55:12.000
that we talked about at the beginning, now that

01:55:12.000 --> 01:55:16.659
we've kind of touched tips on a lot of the points

01:55:16.659 --> 01:55:22.229
from the episode. To reiterate, $2 trillion have

01:55:22.229 --> 01:55:28.609
been spent on education in America. And adults

01:55:28.609 --> 01:55:31.489
coming out of high school cannot grow their own

01:55:31.489 --> 01:55:37.949
food, build a house, fix a car. They are economically

01:55:37.949 --> 01:55:41.369
and historically illiterate. They are unaware

01:55:41.369 --> 01:55:45.630
of proper nutrition, how the human body actually

01:55:45.630 --> 01:55:50.369
functions. They struggle with depression. They

01:55:50.369 --> 01:55:53.869
have zero skills on money management. They don't

01:55:53.869 --> 01:55:56.489
know how to invest. They don't know how to use

01:55:56.489 --> 01:56:05.130
tax strategy. Let that sink in. It's insane.

01:56:05.289 --> 01:56:14.050
Two trillion dollars. That's pretty gross. What's

01:56:14.050 --> 01:56:17.210
crazy to think about is that's what we spend

01:56:17.210 --> 01:56:21.939
basically a year. For our entire military industrial

01:56:21.939 --> 01:56:27.060
complex. No, that's our entire GDP. Wait, really?

01:56:27.680 --> 01:56:29.520
Don't we have like a $2 trillion budget last

01:56:29.520 --> 01:56:32.239
year for military? Hold on. I'm going to look

01:56:32.239 --> 01:56:36.720
this up live. Yeah. I looked it up for the UBI

01:56:36.720 --> 01:56:39.819
episode that we're potentially planning. Fiscal

01:56:39.819 --> 01:56:42.560
year of 2024, October 1st, 2023 to September

01:56:42.560 --> 01:56:46.020
30th. U .S. federal government spent $6 .75 trillion.

01:56:48.230 --> 01:56:49.470
Which, by the way, that's fucking terrifying,

01:56:49.590 --> 01:56:57.770
just saying. Maybe I had old numbers. What was

01:56:57.770 --> 01:57:00.489
it for? It was $850 billion. So that's actually,

01:57:00.630 --> 01:57:03.510
that's about three times. Yes, that's what I

01:57:03.510 --> 01:57:06.550
thought. I was going to say, I knew it was under

01:57:06.550 --> 01:57:10.210
a trillion. For the military budget, at least.

01:57:10.850 --> 01:57:14.810
That's insane. Now, granted, that's over the

01:57:14.810 --> 01:57:16.350
course of, we spent that money over the course

01:57:16.350 --> 01:57:20.140
of decades. However, that means at the federal

01:57:20.140 --> 01:57:23.380
level we spent all this money. We ain't got shit

01:57:23.380 --> 01:57:30.560
to show for it. No. Our kids are very well educated

01:57:30.560 --> 01:57:38.859
on what? TikTok? TikTok, yeah. TikTok is where

01:57:38.859 --> 01:57:44.399
the vast majority of the Gen Z and upcoming Gen

01:57:44.399 --> 01:57:47.970
Alpha get their news. Which, you know what though,

01:57:47.989 --> 01:57:49.649
I hate to say it, it's probably the least biased

01:57:49.649 --> 01:57:51.409
platform when it comes to news, because I use

01:57:51.409 --> 01:57:53.970
it for news. And I get a lot of stuff instantly.

01:57:54.590 --> 01:57:56.250
A lot of stuff that gets banned on like Instagram.

01:57:59.590 --> 01:58:03.689
I hate TikTok. You know what, I feel like if

01:58:03.689 --> 01:58:06.609
they just made it so you could kind of select

01:58:06.609 --> 01:58:09.069
things a little better, I feel like a lot of

01:58:09.069 --> 01:58:11.529
people would actually use it, but because it's

01:58:11.529 --> 01:58:14.649
biased to push a certain type of stuff. Has it

01:58:14.649 --> 01:58:17.210
been sold? Is it under new management now? I

01:58:17.210 --> 01:58:21.970
don't even remember. Because that was the thing

01:58:21.970 --> 01:58:24.689
with the Chinese algorithm. It pushed the idiocy

01:58:24.689 --> 01:58:27.710
towards Americans and it pushed the tech and

01:58:27.710 --> 01:58:30.510
innovations toward the Chinese people. See, what

01:58:30.510 --> 01:58:32.710
you do is you actually, on TikTok, the way you

01:58:32.710 --> 01:58:35.409
change your algorithm is you flag things that

01:58:35.409 --> 01:58:37.529
you don't want to see and then like and save

01:58:37.529 --> 01:58:39.489
the things you do and eventually it fixes itself.

01:58:40.770 --> 01:58:43.479
The only problem I have... So for a while, my

01:58:43.479 --> 01:58:45.739
algorithm was really great because it was all

01:58:45.739 --> 01:58:50.220
just politics, news, gaming, music, guitar stuff.

01:58:51.520 --> 01:58:55.220
But Molly sends me one fucking thing about, like,

01:58:55.220 --> 01:58:58.159
women's, like, leggings. And now I'm just getting

01:58:58.159 --> 01:59:00.380
women trying to sell leggings with butt photos

01:59:00.380 --> 01:59:02.920
all day long. And I'm like, I swear to God, I'm

01:59:02.920 --> 01:59:05.020
not looking this stuff up. And she knows, like,

01:59:05.079 --> 01:59:08.119
I'm not. But it's like, TikTok, could you not

01:59:08.119 --> 01:59:11.720
do that, please? Leave me alone? Yeah. It's funny

01:59:11.720 --> 01:59:15.340
how algorithms work with things like Facebook.

01:59:16.560 --> 01:59:26.560
Like some of my recent stuff. Yeah. Lots of mushy

01:59:26.560 --> 01:59:31.279
woo -woo shit has been popping up on my reels.

01:59:32.979 --> 01:59:37.659
And I thought it was hilarious because just like

01:59:37.659 --> 01:59:48.329
the timing of it. But yeah, anything else you

01:59:48.329 --> 01:59:53.670
wanted to add into this? No, I just... It's one

01:59:53.670 --> 01:59:55.090
of those things I feel like people just need

01:59:55.090 --> 01:59:57.489
to start being more involved with their kids

01:59:57.489 --> 02:00:00.409
and local education and understand that there

02:00:00.409 --> 02:00:03.329
are better solutions out there. You just have

02:00:03.329 --> 02:00:07.569
to do some research, figure it out, and really

02:00:07.569 --> 02:00:09.909
understand that until we make some fundamental

02:00:09.909 --> 02:00:12.770
shifts, unfortunately, this is going to stay

02:00:12.770 --> 02:00:15.710
this way for a while. And really, to bring it

02:00:15.710 --> 02:00:18.810
back to the original topic, Trump defunding a

02:00:18.810 --> 02:00:21.390
large part of the DOE is not going to make a

02:00:21.390 --> 02:00:24.069
negative difference to really anybody out there

02:00:24.069 --> 02:00:25.489
that has kids in the educational system right

02:00:25.489 --> 02:00:28.310
now. Anything that they were overseeing literally

02:00:28.310 --> 02:00:30.569
has nothing to do with what your child does from

02:00:30.569 --> 02:00:35.909
a day -to -day basis. I think initially there

02:00:35.909 --> 02:00:42.350
will be fear, but it should probably be a net

02:00:42.350 --> 02:00:46.890
positive. Yes. If it's allowed to propagate.

02:00:47.090 --> 02:00:51.310
Oh, yeah. I'd agree with you 100%. Because it's

02:00:51.310 --> 02:00:52.890
one of those things where we might see a short

02:00:52.890 --> 02:00:56.590
-term loss of a couple of things, but long -term

02:00:56.590 --> 02:01:00.409
getting these things established by the states

02:01:00.409 --> 02:01:02.590
and letting people be able to be involved with

02:01:02.590 --> 02:01:05.149
it. I think that's the biggest problem. When

02:01:05.149 --> 02:01:06.310
you establish something like the Department of

02:01:06.310 --> 02:01:08.729
Education federally, that means that every kid

02:01:08.729 --> 02:01:11.829
in America has to learn the same shit. Does every

02:01:11.829 --> 02:01:13.170
kid in America need to learn the same thing?

02:01:13.430 --> 02:01:16.399
No. If we're going to be a melting pot, let's

02:01:16.399 --> 02:01:18.279
let these kids learn different things and then

02:01:18.279 --> 02:01:20.680
bring all that stuff together. That's kind of

02:01:20.680 --> 02:01:23.239
the point. You know, someone that lives in Maine

02:01:23.239 --> 02:01:25.420
doesn't need to deal with the same climate that

02:01:25.420 --> 02:01:28.060
someone in Arizona does. So like, why not have

02:01:28.060 --> 02:01:30.579
that different education? Because honestly, the

02:01:30.579 --> 02:01:31.720
amount of high schools I know that don't teach

02:01:31.720 --> 02:01:33.520
about things particular to your climate, your

02:01:33.520 --> 02:01:35.979
environment, your topography, different information,

02:01:36.140 --> 02:01:37.720
how to grow crops in your area, how to do all

02:01:37.720 --> 02:01:39.819
this other stuff. So many people just, it's ignored.

02:01:40.619 --> 02:01:44.189
Yeah. If. If the federal government is allowed

02:01:44.189 --> 02:01:48.149
to control it, you end up with potato soup. If

02:01:48.149 --> 02:01:50.449
you leave it to the states, well, then you get

02:01:50.449 --> 02:01:54.630
wonderful things like vegetable soup or some

02:01:54.630 --> 02:01:57.369
kind of like wonderful Thanksgiving dinner eventually.

02:01:57.930 --> 02:01:59.890
And that way you can actually participate in

02:01:59.890 --> 02:02:02.350
it. You can vote on it. Yeah. And I think that's

02:02:02.350 --> 02:02:06.029
the biggest part of it. Yeah. I don't feel like

02:02:06.029 --> 02:02:08.869
kids in LA are going to worry too much about

02:02:08.869 --> 02:02:15.899
farming. Like the, like the kids in, kansas you

02:02:15.899 --> 02:02:18.739
know it's just every everywhere people forget

02:02:18.739 --> 02:02:21.739
we are a country of 50 little countries all working

02:02:21.739 --> 02:02:25.539
together so let's treat it as such you know that

02:02:25.539 --> 02:02:28.239
was the idea of the articles of confederation

02:02:28.239 --> 02:02:30.699
which then became the united states the idea

02:02:30.699 --> 02:02:34.239
that you know we technically per our government

02:02:34.239 --> 02:02:36.119
how the republic is supposed to work it's 50

02:02:36.119 --> 02:02:38.880
separate states or 50 separate countries that

02:02:38.880 --> 02:02:41.439
all work together and we allow the federal government

02:02:41.439 --> 02:02:45.060
to have some power over limited things so yes

02:02:45.060 --> 02:02:52.199
let's work with such yeah but yeah i feel like

02:02:52.199 --> 02:02:56.779
um that kind of covers most of our at least these

02:02:56.779 --> 02:02:58.960
my my discussion on that topic is this is this

02:02:58.960 --> 02:03:01.340
is a topic that i'm very into and there's more

02:03:01.340 --> 02:03:03.460
i could talk about but we're running up to two

02:03:03.460 --> 02:03:07.239
hours so yeah and it's getting late it's almost

02:03:07.239 --> 02:03:09.060
10 and it's a work night so i'll be up a little

02:03:09.060 --> 02:03:14.260
bit late editing but that's fine yeah so this

02:03:14.260 --> 02:03:17.100
is an interesting week um things are going to

02:03:17.100 --> 02:03:19.680
be a little off kilter for our schedule life

02:03:19.680 --> 02:03:23.800
happened to gibbs and i have plans this weekend

02:03:23.800 --> 02:03:26.920
so we're going to do the next episode on saturday

02:03:26.920 --> 02:03:29.739
yes so just a heads up this will be a compressed

02:03:29.739 --> 02:03:31.859
week basically how it works it's always either

02:03:31.859 --> 02:03:35.239
a saturday a sunday or monday basically we try

02:03:35.239 --> 02:03:37.220
to shoot for sundays but sometimes i get held

02:03:37.220 --> 02:03:39.899
up sometimes you get held up It's how it goes.

02:03:39.979 --> 02:03:41.439
Well, Saturday we've been trying to shoot for.

02:03:41.600 --> 02:03:43.720
Yeah. Just because it works out better for us

02:03:43.720 --> 02:03:47.720
sometimes. But we try to do what works for y

02:03:47.720 --> 02:03:49.520
'all because, you know, you guys have been showing

02:03:49.520 --> 02:03:51.619
love and we're trying to show back. We appreciate

02:03:51.619 --> 02:03:53.300
you guys in chat and everything. Everyone's showing

02:03:53.300 --> 02:04:00.260
up. Yeah. Turn out the lights. I think I think

02:04:00.260 --> 02:04:01.899
this week I do want to say this for everybody.

02:04:02.039 --> 02:04:04.300
I want to try to get that account for the AI

02:04:04.300 --> 02:04:08.649
editing thing. for us for this. I want to do

02:04:08.649 --> 02:04:14.510
that this week. Oh, I see what it does. Get the

02:04:14.510 --> 02:04:18.210
AI involved. Yeah, why not? We'll Eiffel Tower

02:04:18.210 --> 02:04:24.489
that AI. Make it work for us. I don't know what

02:04:24.489 --> 02:04:27.489
that means, but I don't like it. I don't know

02:04:27.489 --> 02:04:31.189
what that means. I'm scared to know what that

02:04:31.189 --> 02:04:32.909
means. I need an adult here. Adult, help me.

02:04:41.829 --> 02:04:44.430
Jesus. I guess I was going to go. Before we end,

02:04:44.449 --> 02:04:45.890
I was just quickly going to go to chat and see

02:04:45.890 --> 02:04:49.189
if anyone had any comments, concerns, thoughts.

02:04:50.529 --> 02:04:55.350
I think everyone's concerned about me. I do want

02:04:55.350 --> 02:04:58.569
to give a teaser, though. Just a little tickle

02:04:58.569 --> 02:05:01.630
teaser. Next week's episode is going to be very

02:05:01.630 --> 02:05:04.890
fun. I'm not even sure if we can have it on Twitch,

02:05:05.130 --> 02:05:10.899
but we're going to try. You know? I didn't consider

02:05:10.899 --> 02:05:14.260
that until just now. That one might have to be

02:05:14.260 --> 02:05:18.899
an upload only. We'll see. We'll have to see

02:05:18.899 --> 02:05:23.159
about that. I'll have to look into it. Next week,

02:05:23.159 --> 02:05:27.140
or this weekend, whatever, our next episode,

02:05:27.220 --> 02:05:33.739
we are going to delve into the ever murky topic.

02:05:35.850 --> 02:05:41.189
Of American gun culture. Oh, yeah. That should

02:05:41.189 --> 02:05:46.189
be a very fun one. Oh, yeah. The history of freedom

02:05:46.189 --> 02:05:49.069
as told by the freedom seed dispenser. Precisely.

02:05:50.449 --> 02:05:55.529
Yes. So it might be an upload only, but we're

02:05:55.529 --> 02:05:58.850
going to look into Twitch's terms and see what

02:05:58.850 --> 02:06:03.470
we can get away with. We may try to use some

02:06:03.470 --> 02:06:06.149
props for that one. I don't know. That's probably

02:06:06.149 --> 02:06:07.909
why we won't be allowed to use Twitch. Oh, yeah,

02:06:08.010 --> 02:06:09.310
because I don't even know if we can use fake

02:06:09.310 --> 02:06:14.810
ones. Yeah. But we're going to try to work on

02:06:14.810 --> 02:06:18.649
a nice intro for that one. Trying to work up

02:06:18.649 --> 02:06:22.350
something flashy for you guys. Yeah, that'd be.

02:06:22.470 --> 02:06:24.949
Let's see. We got a question here. Would it be

02:06:24.949 --> 02:06:27.829
worth it to get in trouble for using AI to write

02:06:27.829 --> 02:06:32.510
your useless ELA essays? Kind of like should,

02:06:32.550 --> 02:06:37.079
should not teens be able to go pro? So I do have

02:06:37.079 --> 02:06:42.399
a thought on that. Okay. So the problem I see

02:06:42.399 --> 02:06:44.460
with that is if you let AI write it for you,

02:06:44.500 --> 02:06:46.500
that that takes away your ability from thinking

02:06:46.500 --> 02:06:50.520
about it and your ability to analyze, conceptualize,

02:06:50.520 --> 02:06:53.159
figure out exactly what the discussion is. But

02:06:53.159 --> 02:06:57.180
I do understand English language arts, ELA. A

02:06:57.180 --> 02:06:59.100
lot of the times those classes, I get it. They're

02:06:59.100 --> 02:07:03.119
boring. They're not great. What I would say is

02:07:03.119 --> 02:07:06.500
I wouldn't allow AI to write it. But I would

02:07:06.500 --> 02:07:09.020
allow AI to summarize and give you like a bullet

02:07:09.020 --> 02:07:12.000
point list about what you're talking about. Because

02:07:12.000 --> 02:07:13.880
I look at AI where I think in a lot of schools

02:07:13.880 --> 02:07:15.340
for younger grades, it should be allowed as an

02:07:15.340 --> 02:07:17.880
organizer. So if you're having problems like

02:07:17.880 --> 02:07:19.680
trying to organize things and get things straightened

02:07:19.680 --> 02:07:21.800
out, I have no problem with that. But I think

02:07:21.800 --> 02:07:23.859
you should still have to write it in your own

02:07:23.859 --> 02:07:28.680
words. You know what I mean? Bring those words

02:07:28.680 --> 02:07:31.489
like from you, from what you know. Sure, you

02:07:31.489 --> 02:07:32.890
might use AI to help you say, hey, give me a

02:07:32.890 --> 02:07:34.689
synonym for this word or help me explain this,

02:07:34.729 --> 02:07:36.729
help me do that. But I feel like you should have

02:07:36.729 --> 02:07:38.909
to put those words, you know, together yourself.

02:07:39.670 --> 02:07:45.909
But that's just me. You know, because I don't

02:07:45.909 --> 02:07:47.630
know if I don't know if I if I was a teacher,

02:07:47.710 --> 02:07:49.149
I would just tell those kids that be like, you

02:07:49.149 --> 02:07:51.289
know, just don't don't freaking go on a rock

02:07:51.289 --> 02:07:53.090
or chat GPT and just be like, write me this.

02:07:58.800 --> 02:08:03.000
Yeah, so if I was going to use AI, I would say

02:08:03.000 --> 02:08:07.039
maybe have it do a couple of comparisons. And

02:08:07.039 --> 02:08:11.039
then you take the time to read over them and

02:08:11.039 --> 02:08:15.539
do some of your own comparison. See which one

02:08:15.539 --> 02:08:17.680
you like. Maybe do a couple of rewrites and some

02:08:17.680 --> 02:08:21.220
edits. Feed it back through. Definitely use it

02:08:21.220 --> 02:08:23.560
for maybe like language, punctuation, grammar.

02:08:23.779 --> 02:08:26.220
That kind of stuff, I'm definitely on board for

02:08:26.220 --> 02:08:31.489
using AI. But if you're going to use it, make

02:08:31.489 --> 02:08:35.369
sure you're putting in bare minimum 50 % of the

02:08:35.369 --> 02:08:39.609
input to it. You've got to use critical thinking

02:08:39.609 --> 02:08:45.010
and suggestion to get it there. That way it's

02:08:45.010 --> 02:08:49.489
not just, hey, Grok, I need this information

02:08:49.489 --> 02:08:53.010
on this topic, this many words, this many lines,

02:08:53.170 --> 02:08:57.119
whatever. Boom. That's cheating. Oh, yeah, exactly.

02:08:58.439 --> 02:09:00.340
Just make sure it's your own words. But if you're

02:09:00.340 --> 02:09:04.020
putting in a prompt that takes you 10 minutes

02:09:04.020 --> 02:09:07.060
to write, I feel like that's a little bit more

02:09:07.060 --> 02:09:09.920
effort. And then if you submit the prompt as

02:09:09.920 --> 02:09:13.159
your part, maybe that goes and counts for something.

02:09:13.239 --> 02:09:16.159
I don't know. I think that the whole point of

02:09:16.159 --> 02:09:17.880
doing those assignments is to make sure that

02:09:17.880 --> 02:09:21.319
you are using your brain to figure it out. And

02:09:21.319 --> 02:09:23.159
that's the part that matters the most. If you

02:09:23.159 --> 02:09:26.060
use these other stuff to help you. reorganize

02:09:26.060 --> 02:09:28.779
or reword that's one thing just make sure the

02:09:28.779 --> 02:09:32.380
concept and that is coming from you that's really

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the part that's with any part of education no

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matter what it is make sure it's coming from

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you you know if you use it to spell check or

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double check a few things grammar wise or whatever

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organize i don't think anyone's gonna ever say

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anything just make sure your thoughts are your

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own because then the thing is when you get out

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in the real world and have a job I'll tell you

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this right now, you can't go chat GPT or Grok

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and say, hey, what should I do? That's not how

02:09:56.810 --> 02:10:00.069
this works. Yeah. That's not how that works.

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But what you can do is check out our socials.

02:10:03.949 --> 02:10:06.770
Yes. Join us on the Discord. That'd be great.

02:10:07.170 --> 02:10:09.210
Join us for the live streams when we have them.

02:10:09.270 --> 02:10:11.189
Oh, yeah. These are getting good. Yeah, I'm really

02:10:11.189 --> 02:10:14.149
enjoying having a live stream, honestly. Right.

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Yeah. Twitch .tv slash now underscore we underscore

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consume underscore podcast. Because I'm a bastard,

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like, speak, type. Yeah, we definitely have those

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links as well on the Discord. That's our hub

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for anything and everything to do with this podcast.

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As well as, you know, Facebook, Instagram. Join

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us. Exactly. One of us. One of us. One of us.

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I think besides that, I think we're probably

02:10:43.239 --> 02:10:46.979
ready to wrap this one up, huh? Oh, yeah. Absolutely.

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Cool. As always, I want to appreciate everybody

02:10:50.170 --> 02:10:51.750
that, you know, came here in the live chat as

02:10:51.750 --> 02:10:53.850
well as everyone that's listening at home. Definitely

02:10:53.850 --> 02:10:55.550
feel free to check us out on any of the socials

02:10:55.550 --> 02:10:56.689
or anything else that we've recommended, you

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know, just to get in touch with us if you have

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any questions, comments, concerns, or thoughts.

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And I want to give a special shout out to my

02:11:02.069 --> 02:11:04.789
co -host here, Pip, for joining tonight and being

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here as always. Making the question reality itself.

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Dude, I fucked up earlier. I fucked up. Well.

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I didn't do noodles and nipples earlier. Well.

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My whole world and reality have fallen out of

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place if you want you could do them Before I

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can even get the words out of my mouth you bastard

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I Was saying well if you want to do it through

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the out in that you you just you would have you

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just went See see Wookiee chat, so what did I

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just witness and unfortunately You witness...

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How can I make this a Twitch appropriate? Part

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of my warm -up routine. Yeah. It's usually what

02:11:55.869 --> 02:11:59.930
he does before, so... I don't know. That's how

02:11:59.930 --> 02:12:01.689
you fluff yourself for the episode? I don't know.

02:12:03.310 --> 02:12:05.949
Well, I can't fluff on stream. Hopefully not.

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We don't stream on the hub. I know. Maybe we

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should stream on the hub. That would be terrifying.

02:12:14.119 --> 02:12:15.680
Oh, my God. The comments there would be bad.

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Oh, no. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Oh, God.

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Oh, no. I am so sorry to chat. Yes, with my son

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in the chat. This is what you have to look forward

02:12:30.260 --> 02:12:32.760
to becoming, son. Get ready for it. It's okay

02:12:32.760 --> 02:12:36.140
to cry. It's okay. It's okay to feel sad sometimes.

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I don't think we get that much money streaming

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on Pornhub because we have to hire like some

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some bimbo trick just to stand there with their

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boobs out just like just to get views right because

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that would be the thumbnail that you just thumbnail

02:12:52.050 --> 02:12:53.449
that they click on like oh man it's you guys

02:12:53.449 --> 02:12:55.689
on a fucking podcast what the fuck it'd be a

02:12:55.689 --> 02:12:59.729
rage bait on that's how that works right the

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comments be wow this was a tough wake like that

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this is tough but still got it done you know

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I don't know Maybe that's how we reach the LGBT

02:13:11.619 --> 02:13:21.739
population. Talk about the ultimate edge. Oh,

02:13:21.739 --> 02:13:26.520
Jesus Christ. All righty. I think I need to go

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shower now. I'm a dirty boy. I have no comment.

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You know what's going to be great when the AI

02:13:32.859 --> 02:13:35.859
picks up that last segment to put up online for

02:13:35.859 --> 02:13:47.869
no context? Oh, man. Oh, shit. All right. Oh,

02:13:47.890 --> 02:13:50.109
okay. I'm going to go breathe and get some water.

02:13:50.229 --> 02:13:52.590
All right. Sounds good. Well, thank you all for

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watching. We really appreciate it as always.

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I love you guys. Thanks for hanging out. And

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we will catch you on the next one. See you then.