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I am your host, Pip. With me and stunned as always
by the latex -clad word orgy that has once again
slithered its way out of my mouth is Gibbs. What?
I'm here, but what? I had to bring that one together.
It hit me when I woke up. That's what hit you?
Hold on. Those words in that order are, and I
quote, Pip wakes up. Pip says that word salad.
Okay. These are just the thoughts that crossed
my head as soon as I opened my eyes. I can't
help it. So with us tonight is our friend LT.
He's going to be joining us in the discussion.
We are going to be talking about, overall, the
alien disclosures, the UAP admissions from the
government. And why nobody really seems to care.
It's something we've kind of joked about a little
bit among ourselves and our friend group. But
there seems to be a general malaise about the
fact that the government has said, hey, this
stuff is out there. It exists. We don't know
what it is, where it's coming from. And people
are just like, cool, fam. Our friend LT has got
a very passionate interest in a lot of this subject.
If you'd like to take a couple seconds and tell
us a couple things about yourself and what has
drawn you to this so much. Well, I mean, I guess
for the most part, the main reason I'm interested
is just the history aspect of it. That's kind
of where I go with a lot of it is what all is.
What strings are attached to us and everything
else and what's gone further? There's definitely
more than the past 10 ,000 years. So what was
before that? And so on. I agree. Right. Was it
the allure of the possible anal probes that really
drew you to it? It was one of the things that
drew me away. Like, still not really on board
with that part. Avoid that if at all possible.
You're just still to the first knuckle. Maybe
just thumb in philosophy. That's already too
far. I already tried pulling away. All I can
say is the whole anal probe thing was only popular
before gay marriage was legalized. I'm just saying.
There were a lot of very hopeful guys that were
very, very, very closeted back in the day. That
whole thing. That's all I can say. That could
have been a whole Russian psyop on its own. Make
everyone afraid of the aliens for anal probes.
This is very true. Da, comrade, aliens are gay,
don't you know? They want your anus. Protect
your chocolate starfish. Oh, my Lord. So through
the years, we've had lots of different types
of UFO sightings and various UAP, which is the
new interim, mentions and reports. Everything
from the, what was it, June of Frank and Betty
Hill back in the 50s or 40s with their first
sighting. That really started the whole UFO phenomenon.
All the way up to now we have congressmen, senators,
naval pilots, Air Force personnel coming out
and saying, hey, this shit's out there. We don't
know what it is. There's actually people that
have reports all the way back to 47. Like day
of the. Those are just the ones on record. So.
Some of the more recent and interesting ones,
I know we've mentioned it in at least one of
our past episodes, the Miami Mall incident. In
trying to find information about that one, it
has come to my attention that the majority of
the videos and information about that night have
been removed from the internet. There's no war
embossing, say? No. There was nothing at the
mall incident. Nothing ever happened. Exactly.
The videos that came out in the day of and the
days following, they're gone. You can see like
one video that's been shared across the news
outlets and it shows like a gray blob, very fuzzy,
out of focus near the corner of a building. That's
like the only video that's still out there. So
what's interesting about that whole thing was
if they had come out and been honest with whatever
happened, I'll be honest, most people don't care
about the alien stuff because, quite frankly,
the economy sucks and people are just trying
to afford to live. So they could have been like,
yeah, aliens touched down and then they left.
I would have been like, all right, I would leave
too. They probably saw Tiger King. So it's just
one of those things where because everything
was scrubbed to a point that you can't get anything.
that's where it gets fishy i did hear reports
that there were some people talking about that
you know some kids supposedly lit off some fireworks
or did something like that but with the way not
only people were running away but also with the
massive police presence right i mean they didn't
even respond that well to um the mandalay bay
shooting no they didn't that was the episode
i think we talked about it on yeah well this
this is my problem was they responded to that
mall incident with Four or five times the police
power than they did with the Mandalay Bay shooting
after they had confirmed deaths. So, no, something
went down, but we'll just, unfortunately, we'll
never know what. No. Just like everything else
in Project Blue Book files are all classified.
We'll never see those. Oh, we're going to touch
tips on Project Blue Book a little bit later.
Okay. Aggressively. So. All of the drone sightings
that we've gotten to play around with over the
past six months, they've died down heavily over
the past month or so. Oddly enough. Weird timings,
you know. Turns out there are certain people
in certain positions. Things in the sky might
get shot down. All the drone sightings, we still
don't know what's going on with those. There's.
New revelations that Iran has a drone carrier
in service. Was it in service when all that stuff
was going on? We don't know. That's still classified
information. Information about the drone carrier
is coming out. So apparently it was still in
dry dock during this time. I was going to say,
there's no way another nation could get their
military or even military asset. Within 20, 30
miles, even 100 miles of the U .S. border without
us knowing about it, I'd be very surprised. The
fact that those drones were over major American
cities, airports, military bases, those were
not from here. There's no way. They would have
to have been U .S. military. They were either
ours or they were some kind of an ally that we
would have been not fearful of them. LT, you
had a thought on these. There's still reports
that they're happening, just you don't see them
a lot. They kind of get pushed down in the algorithm
still, but people are still seeing things in
the sky. Granted, there's a lot of dumb people,
so there's a good chance that most of them are
still planes or satellites and stuff like that.
So you kind of have to take that in a little
bit of a pinch of salt. there's there's a couple
really interesting weird tie -ins there's this
one group that had published a thing a couple
days prior uh claiming that they talked to some
beings and they're going to start displaying
a lot more in the next coming weeks and then
all the drone studies happened yeah so speaking
of things being revealed um i feel like Even
if things start being shown in cities and over
the skies of cities, I don't know that people
are going to believe it right away. Given the
level of drone and AI display technology and
not only that, but like we had talked last week,
deep fakes coming out. Just the sheer amount
of false information that could be generated
and dispersed. I don't know that... Honestly,
I don't know that a real invasion would even
get noticed. A real invasion would if it became
a violent one. If it was a silent... I was going
to say, not if it was a non -violent one. As
soon as violence started breaking out, that's
when I would become... But... The problem would
be we're entering a world where reality is somewhat
subjective. especially when it comes to the prevalence
of AI. And even just without AI, even just people
being good at video and photo editing, that let
alone is a problem. So it's one of those things
where it would take us days, if not even weeks,
to actually factually understand what's going
on. And I hate to say it, we can't trust a single
news organization at this point. So it's one
of those things where even if something were
to happen, number one, it would take us days
to identify it. Number two, I can't even trust
our own military. because I don't even trust
that they're going to tell us the right thing,
let alone the media, let alone social media or
anything else. I hate to say it, but it could
take days, if not weeks, for anyone to even know,
like definitively, unless you are literally seeing
it yourself. The only way to know that something's
really happening in this world is when you can
look through social media and see 500 or 1 ,000
people independently from different angles upload
something. Then you know, like, oh, shit, something
actually happened. But unless that happens...
It's such a crapshoot. You never know. You need
a global meeting. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like
every news organization covering it at the same
time. Then you can be fairly certain that's happening.
Yeah. This was like Independence Day. Yeah. World
leaders. That shit's over the White House. Yeah.
It's world leaders talking about it. It's not
Joe Blow on Twitter or some guy on Reddit going,
look what I saw. Yeah. Or Alex Jones. Or Alex
Jones. Talk to the freaking aliens, guy. They
touched down over the swamps and now they're
turning the freaking fogs, guy. Oh, God. So aside
from what we are seeing over the skies now and
the history of the reportings and the sightings
and the supposed interactions that we've had.
We're being forced to reevaluate history as we
know it. Something that just came out this week
were the ground -penetrating radar scans of the
Great Pyramid in Egypt. And it turns out there
are some very long structures underneath this
pyramid. They go at least a mile down that we've
been able to find. I believe that was the correct
number. It's about two kilometers. So yeah, about
a mile. There are tube -like structures going
around these pillar -like structures that are
under the pyramid. They don't know what they
are yet. They're trying to get permission to
dig, excavate, find some kind of a way to expeditionize
underneath the pyramid. They want to explore.
I had mentioned this to you, but I would like
to pose this to LT because I don't know if he
has heard it, seen it or anything. I did see
a little video. Someone had apparently had the
same theory I had. What if the pyramid or pyramids
that we're seeing aren't actually pyramids, but
they're the tops of obelisks? I've seen that
theory before. I would be. less inclined to think
that way now since the radar looks like individual
columns, not as a solid column. Well, okay. A
differently designed obelisk or an obelisk -esque
structure. I mean, if these are columns, they
were made. I think ultimately it's connected
to it, but I don't think it would be classified
as an obelisk. I've seen a lot of people thinking
either. Well, let's step outside the box here.
What if they are? What does this force us to
reevaluate? A mile -high obelisk well over, what,
7 ,000, 15 ,000 years old? Easily. Because that
height, that depth, whatever it turns out to
be. I'm sorry, that level of technology did not
exist in that day. I think you're looking at
this backwards. It's not that the pyramid is
placed on top of an obelisk, but how big are
in diameter or circumference? How big diameter
-wise? 30 meters, I think they said. Wide? Each
one, yeah. And there's eight of them. So hear
me out. They're like... Do -do -do -do. So what
if before they built the pyramid, they just dug
down? A mile? Eight times? I mean, not for nothing,
you're in the sand. Not back then. That would
be very difficult, but it's not impossible with
enough manpower. Remember, that's also ancient
Egypt. They just threw slaves at the problem.
This is not something we'd be able to build.
You sure about that? We've never built... I...
I mean, oil rigs exist. I mean, we have those
going thousands of feet into the ground to hold
up and be above water to be able to hold an oil
rig. Yeah, but those are much smaller. These
are massive in comparison. I mean, you're not
sending 30 -meter -wide pipes down there mining
oil. It doesn't have to be... But yeah, it doesn't
have to be a pipe. It could just be they excavated
it out and just filled it with something. Possible.
It would definitely shake the foundation of the
kind of technology thought at the time. Because
even a modern standard, that's an insane project.
Even if you had construction crews of the world.
That's going a mile into the ground, though.
Oh, no, I know that's insane. I don't care how
much sand is there. It's not a mile deep of sand.
You're going to hit rock and very hard rock.
Yeah. I think it's basically going to the bedrock.
If not through it. My question is, was that built
before the Bronze Age? Oh, yeah, for sure. Pyramid
was built before that age. So they wouldn't have
the tools to be able to get through that rock
is what I'm hearing. Yeah, it's a totally different...
Shift to it because you also have to keep mine
is around those columns is a spiraled like staircase
Basically the walkway all the way down It's not
just the columns that's it So so imagine if when
the pyramids are Richard done they were float
they were like on those columns above Yeah, there's
a feet and the sand just backfilled around it
Maybe wild There's a bunch of stories with it,
too. There's one theory, like 100 years ago or
so, that there's staircases under the pyramids
that go down to the library. We found staircases.
Yeah, I've heard that. We found a big block that
it goes into. If that's the case, I think that
reasoning enough would be a push to dig. Yeah,
why aren't they? Egypt. There's people in Egypt
that are protecting the sacred history, is what
they say. They don't allow much. They don't want
people to dig. But if it's not going to hurt
the pyramid, why not? Because they don't want
people to find things. But, like, why? Yeah,
because they don't want people to find things.
It doesn't make sense. Like, they think they
found wagon wheels and stuff from when Moses
parted the Red Sea, but they won't. let anyone
remove the objects to inspect them because it's
underwater sounds all the more reason why we
should go looking it's kind of like with gobekli
tepe they basically a private company bought
it basically made a theme park out of it and
said all right we're done we're not gonna excavate
sorry guys and then they planted trees on top
of it And they got it removed, yeah. Thankfully,
but... The oldest settlement we have. There's
so much of our past as humans that we're never
going to find out because stupid people like
that. I don't even think it says they're stupid
people. I think it's selfish people. Yeah. Or
it's people that, I hate to say it, but they're
using, I think, maybe religion as a shield or
an excuse as to not. They don't want their religion
proven wrong. It could prove them right, too.
That's the other thing. You never know. That's
why if I could do one epic thing in my life,
I would like to raid the Vatican archives and
put everything in there on display for the whole
world to see. That's a lot of... Oh, I can't
say those words on stream. Inappropriate behavior.
I'll just leave it there. Yes. Three miles of
shelves in the Vatican archives. And they have
confirmed that they've got plenty of documents
regarding UFOs and such. So what's stopping somebody
from breaking into the Vatican? Security. The
Swiss Guard. There have been people that have
gotten access to it. It's obviously very difficult
to. There's this one lawyer guy who got access
through the Jesuit stuff. So people can get access.
But I assume it's another Epstein thing. We're
like, yeah, we'll give you access, but we have
dirt on you forever. It's possible. Probably.
It's the Vatican. Having people that have talked
to people from the Vatican and they've said that
they're ready to come forward when everyone else
is ready to come forward. So it's possible if
they keep pushing with the movement within Congress
that they then also go, here's more information
that we have through the centuries even before
America. That's great. It's funny, UFO sightings
have been something that have confirmed in almost
every major religion countless times throughout
Roman Greek history. Obviously even in Egyptian
history. This has not been an uncommon thing
at the slightest. Well, like we talked about
in our Apes, Aliens, or Adam episode, a lot of
the stories from every major religion around
the world talk about basically their gods coming
from the sky and imparting some kind of gift
of life upon the people. And it's... The descriptions
about the flying chariots, I think it was from
the Hindu text. I can't remember the name of
it. Talking about them coming down in those and
coming out from them and describing them. Those
were literally flying craft. So there's an accepted
religious doctrine that is talking about basically.
A spaceship coming from the sky and a being coming
out and interacting with humanity in our past.
You got that in Egypt, too. I mean, all the gods
coming down from the sky. Uh -huh. And especially
it's really easy to sell a god that can bring
the sun across the sky if your craft is a giant
bright orb that flies across the sky. Right.
So we go from the religious pretext that there
has been passed down stories of alien interaction
to religious paintings that show possible alien
vehicles, alien interaction, even some of the
stories from different religious texts. If you
read them with the. The context of could this
have been an interaction that was misinterpreted?
It's it's a really different way to think about
things. If you are willing to open your mind
to that. Yeah. Now that the tinfoil hat says
I did have one person to explain to me that Jesus
actually was an alien. and the entire christian
faith is based on alien beliefs i mean i honestly
wouldn't be that surprised to somehow be resurrected
after being crucified several days later after
being locked in a separate house with a giant
boulder in front of it yeah that does not see
put it this way back then people were not big
and they were not strong if that is something
even our steroided out athletes of today couldn't
do how the hell could a starved human right i'm
just saying um so the theory on that was that
was them coming back to get his body after he
was burned they were like oh shit we know what
they do to their bodies we cannot leave any evidence
just sounds like another episode of star trek
basically yeah you know i saw that one with data
they had to go back and get his body oh uh so
we we go from that to yes LTU had mentioned Project
Blue Book. I would also like to mention here
comes our daily or our weekly list hop. Let's
get on a list, Gibbs. Immaculate Constellation.
Now we're on a list. Yay. What do you mean now
we're on a list? I mean, we've been on a list.
We are on the top of several lists. Yes. Yes,
we are. You know, I've heard of Immaculate Constellation
before, but I actually don't know that much about
it. Yeah, it's one of the UAP programs, supposedly
one for LTD. Do you want to take that? I've never
heard of it. My guy, you have sent me videos
of the hearings where they talk about it. I've
never known what it was called. Oh, my God. Well,
you know there's a lot of government programs
on it. A lot of the hearings that I've sent you
are from guys I know that have worked on other
government programs, like AATIP. Elizondo was
talking about it. Yeah, he was head director
of AATIP. That's what I know him for. Yeah, he
worked with the people on Immaculate Constellation.
I keep wanting to call it Immaculate Conception.
I'm going to slip up and call it that at some
point. Well, I mean, immaculate conception does
seem like a very alien theory anyway. Right?
Either that or just someone's cheating. Someone's
a fucking liar. One of them, yeah. But yeah,
Project Blue Book being the government program
that documented all of the UFO sightings throughout
history and then was declassified. Partially.
Partially declassified. Partially declassified,
yes. I believe out of all of those... There were
still a good number of them that they could not
explain. Those are the ones that are still classified.
Yeah. So, there again, if there's nothing to
worry about, why classify shit if even after
the FOIA requests, they still come back and say,
okay, well, we can tell you it's not enemy technology
because it's now been long enough that if it
was enemy technology, we would have seen it and
know about it in the public by now. Yeah, it's
because it's friendly technology. We would still
know about it. Yeah, there's people that probably
do. But then there's a lot of people that probably
don't. There's that same guy that saw the Vatican
archives actually ended up getting access to
some of the classified Project Blue Book pictures.
And it's a very good reason why it's still classified.
He says basically your stereotypical UFO crashed
in the side of a hill. A bunch of Air Force guys
around it. Clear as day. And it's he's like from
that point on it's it's from the military. I
mean, it's it's as classified as you get granted.
Maybe they gave him a fake picture. Keep spreading
the BS. But yeah, well with the amount of aircraft
that the US military has released that look like
UFOs ever since the 60s. I mean the Germans were
working on a UFO looking craft back in the 40s
was full -on sphere looking like this was he.
Good picture, but that's what he was given. Nothing
would surprise me. Yeah. So the Immaculate Constellation,
that's one of the newer programs that talks about
the interactions and technology that we supposedly
have that have been captured, surrendered. built
with, designed from, designed with, or reverse
engineered from alien technology. I would love
to get my eyes on that. There's a bunch of whistleblowers
for that. Dave Grosh. Yeah. He has a couple of
his other members have come forward to talk.
Could be an interesting couple of years, that's
for sure. I think a lot more is going to be known
within the next three or four years. I would
assume so, kind of hope so maybe. A lot of new
people going into congressional and senatorial
seats of power have promised disclosure. I think
that was a lot of what they were trying to run
on. Including Marco Rubio. Rubio, I know, Gillibrand
is a big person for that. I'm thinking she's
up for reelection soon in her district. Tim Burchard.
Yeah, he's another one. Yeah. So as well as we
have all of the government programs, I'll let
you keep looking that up if you want. Something
else that we want to talk about is we have now
spotted at least two objects in our solar system
and have confirmed that they were extrasolar
in origin. So there's another thing we have to
be able to start watching out for is things in
the sky that did not come from us. Very odd compared
to the normal rocks that we see. It was almost
cylindrical in shape. Like a cigar. Looked like
a cigar, yeah. Once they figured out that this
thing was not from our solar system, they tracked
it and its path through and around the solar
system and then the sun. If you understand anything
about orbital mechanics, once something is tossed
around the sun, As it leaves and gets further
from the sun, it starts to slow down because
it's gravitationally bound and whatnot. When
they were tracking Oumuamua, it got past that
point where it should have begun to slow down
from the pull of the sun and accelerated. Normal
objects do not accelerate as they're being gravitationally
tugged on by the sun. As it's getting away, it's
getting tugged on, and you should slow down from
that tug and pull, you know? If you're using
your whole fist, you better say sorry to her,
okay? From that graphic that you just showed?
Jesus, fuck. Good God. But do you understand
what I'm saying? Yeah. There have been a couple
of theories. Some people have said, oh, maybe
it's degassing, you know, the water basically
sublimating from it, and that's what's getting
the actual propellant. Yeah, but that would generate
enough thrust to affect that. Yeah. Well, so
it wasn't just slinging through the solar system
in a straight line. It was spinning on, like,
every axis. That's weird. Yeah. So it was, it
was coming at us and it was just spinning on
its rotational axis. And I think it was maybe
doing one of these numbers as it was leaving.
Yeah. It then began to do one of these numbers
as well. So if it was off gassing, it would need
to be off gassing from just one point and it
would have to be staying in one, plane jet thrust.
You think about that? Yeah. If it's off gassing
while it's spinning like this and like this and
like this, it would essentially come to a stop
between the off gassing and the gravitational
pull. It sped up. So. Yeah. We also caught it
a little too late. So we don't know where exactly
it came from. Well, they, they know. Roughly
the area it came from, they tracked it, at least
from its last known or last assumed position.
They aren't sure because of, well, stellar drift.
So there was another one. I didn't find the name
of that one, but I felt that Omobo was a good
one to talk about because who's to say that we
don't get... A rock thrown at us from Klandathu,
and we have to go and do the bug assault. God,
if Starship Troopers becomes reality, we all
know it's going to go much closer to Helldivers.
We know this. Why do you think Musk is making
Starship? Just needs the Troopers. Oh, God. That's
what the robots are for. Exactly. That's what
we send the AI to do. Load it on a ship and just
set it out. Go kill the bugs. But no, it is interesting
that we do see celestial bodies here that don't
always obey what we understand the laws of physics
are, but also we don't understand all of the
variables involved yet when it comes to space
travel because we have never even left much of
this planet, let alone solar system or anything
else. It's hard to say, but I would agree with
you that that just looks more like a celestial
body going through our solar system rather than
any sort of propelled craft or anything. Yeah.
Definitely, once we start catching a little bit
more and being able to fully watch the path to
from point A to B, we want to kind of gauge it
and see if it does any sort of course correction
or anything like that as well. It would be nice
once we could start putting more sensitive equipment.
on different planets in the solar system to be
able to triangulate and get data from different
points to accurately see. Because that's one
of the problems we have is we're really getting
all of our data from essentially a single point,
and it's very hard to triangulate to get proper
distances or vectoring when you only have one
point of orientation. Yeah, I can see them doing
that, especially if you start actually going
to Mars, start actually going to the moon a little
bit more, a couple of different locations. It's
a shame that our previous president's gutted
NASA. Yeah. Because with what Tesla's been able
to do, what Elon's been able to do in a few years,
imagine what NASA could have been at at this
point. Yeah. SpaceX is doing incredibly crazy
things. And they just start from scratch, just
saying. Yeah. I mean, you think about it. We
were on trajectory through the 70s that we could
have been at least living in space stations by
the 90s, like full time. bigger space stations,
possibly the moon by 2000. If they hadn't gutted
the space program. Did they do that because of
UFOs? More people in space, more people to see
it? No, they did that to save jobs at Boeing
and Lockheed Martin. There was a whole documentary
on that one. I'll have to try to find it and
post it up. Also, think about this. Congressmen
can't get cutbacks and kickbacks from funding
NASA where they can get funding from, you know.
Military matters so there you know Or the kickbacks
for for stuff with NASA would be so small that
it wouldn't really be effective You know yeah,
I'm gonna really get that much Yeah, I Feel like
there's a lot of this UFO stuff and all the alien
stuff It's really just the US government flexing
its muscles or even other governments as well.
I think a lot of that is used to I Guess it's
to justify larger budgets and to justify certain
advancements in technology, I would say. Yeah,
it gets all swept under the national security
state. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, it's just UFOs. Don't
worry about it. Think about this. If the F -22
was designed in the late 80s, and it is still
today the top -of -the -line fighter that no
other country can touch, and we've had like 30
years since then, you have no idea what the U
.S. military really has right now. Yeah, no,
DARPA is traditionally 10 to 15 years ahead of
known release technology. The F -47 is going
to be that first look at what they've been working
on. People think they've been seeing it fly since
2014. Yeah, at least. I think it showed up in
a Google Maps picture. It's going to be interesting
to see what ends up happening with that. I can't
wait to see the specs on that thing. Because
will that be the first fighter that is also going
to be somewhat rated for, like, low interstellar
travel? Probably not. No? You mean Orbital. Orbital,
that's what I mean. Space Force already has one.
You know what I mean. Sorry. You know what I
mean. They'll probably leave that to Space Force.
Space Force has the X. I think it's also an X
-37. Yeah, the X -37. It's the X -37B as in boy.
Ah, okay. I figured just to save money, they
would use a similar platform. Basically what
it looks like, it basically gets launched by
Falcon 9, and then it's one of the furthest things
we've put in orbit. They ended up just randomly
releasing a picture in the middle of the week
going, hey, look what we did. Space Force is
not really good with their social media presence.
Nope. They really got to up that. I feel like
ever since that TV show came out on Netflix about
them, they've kind of been getting shit on. Hanging
their heads in shame. Once they get more space.
And I mean, let's be real. If they redid some
of their stuff, it would have been better. Everyone
thinks they're a cheesy ass branch. When the
Air Force and the Coast Guard can make fun of
you, you know you have a problem. So. Yeah, they
kicked out all of our Star Trek nerds from the
military and shoved us into one spot. Yeah, basically.
I mean, when you really think about it, though,
that's going to be the place to be in 50 years.
Not even that. If anyone's trying to go into
the military now, their ranks are wide open.
You can make actual advancement really quick
if you're not a potato. So not only that, but
think about this. When we start traveling to
Mars, somebody's got to police it. You'll be
one of the first. Someone's going to have to
enforce the law. Like first one up kind of owns
it. So y 'all better not just that. But since
all the space between Earth and Mars technically
classifies as international waters, who's to
say there won't be some form of space piracy?
Who's to say there isn't already space piracy?
There very well could be. Maybe that's why we
haven't left Earth. You'd just get mugged. Yeah.
Can't have shit out here. Right? I mean, we all
played EVE. We know what space piracy looks like.
Ah, baby. I don't think I've ever actually played
EVE. It was fun. Yeah. The problem with that
game is it very easily just started sucking up
more and more of your life. Yes. As most games
do. It was Space WoW is what that really is.
You see that? Yes, it is. So with all of the
stuff that we've talked about so far, and yeah,
we've mentioned quite a bit. We're already 40
minutes in. We said all that to say this. Why
is all this information coming out now in 2024,
2025, 2024 with the hearings, of course, the
good hearings? And people just don't seem to
give a fuck about it. I think the media still
looks at it. I mean, they've got New York Times
posted about it and stuff like that, but it doesn't
bring as many views as Orange Man Bad or anything
like that. So they're not going to, by and large,
what pays the bills. Well, that's one thing.
Information overload and the presence of strange
news, or the overpresence rather, is something
that's being blamed. The fact that we live in
a time of constant information bombardment. If
you think about just like the last five or six
years, you've got everything from global pandemic,
political bullshit. And people were just kind
of experiencing news fatigue. So anything like,
hey, aliens are real. Oh, that's cool. Look what
Kim Kardashian did. Look what this celebrity
did. Look what that celebrity did. Oh, another
alien thing. That's cool. Oh, hey, look at this
robot. Look what it can do. Oh, hey, look at
this AI thing. Oh, hey, look at this thing. It's
those, especially short -form media with the
reels and the 30 -second bullshit. Every day,
we get closer and closer to idiocracy. I swear
it. Well, I would say the biggest factor in there
is, number one, people aren't really looking
to the future right now. Everybody's just trying
to survive. Currently, they're trying to get
to the next day. It's usually how a society can
measure when people start thinking about the
future in terms of their kids or their grandkids.
That's generally when, you know, society is doing
well, when they can plan for things, they trust
stability, they trust the market, they trust
their job or the economy. Whereas now nobody
trusts any of that. I think like my entire generation,
everybody in my group already knows none of us
are getting social security. None of us are getting
government benefits. None of us, we all just
got to fend for ourselves. I think a lot of people,
they don't trust the markets. Who knows? Your
401k could be gone six years from now. Who knows?
The housing market could be completely overturned
in even just a few months' time or a few years'
time. It's with great instability and great strife
that people are like, aliens aren't paying the
bills. Don't get me wrong. If aliens came to
Earth and said, here, here's $100 billion, I'm
not saying no, but... If they're not paying my
bills, why the fuck would I care? Like, I hate
to say that, but that's what most people are
thinking. If the aliens don't turn out to be
like the Galactic Federation from Rick and Morty,
where they take over the planet, make everyone's
lives like a thousand percent better, and then
just kind of rule over us with a kind -hearted
warm hug, I don't think people are going to care.
Yeah. As long as they don't have to take up arms,
they don't give a shit. I think they would care
if it's openly just that's the new norm is, hey,
guys, by the way, this is what's been going on.
We're going to have to start abiding by it since
we're going to start going planet to planet.
Here's what we have to follow. Well, see, if
they make people change their daily routine,
then yeah, absolutely. I think we're more of
a national thing. I mean, like, hey, we have
to sign treaties with X, Y, Z. You can't do anything.
Or now they can do whatever. Or now you can have
regulations on if they are a thing. Can they
do things here? Okay, so let me ask you this.
LT, do you watch Invincible? Okay, so we all
watch Invincible. Oh, yeah. If you're listening
to this, cannot recommend that show enough. It
is one of the best written shows that I've ever
watched. Yes, it is animated. It's adult animated.
No, it's not tentacle porn anime. So we'll just
put that out there. In Invincible, you have the
alien race that is coming to Earth to conquer
it and take it over, and they say, make it a
better society through their ruling, right? If
Earth were taken over, by an empire like those,
if they just let us live our lives with some
very minimal intrusion, would that be more acceptable?
Or do you think if it was just a pure takeover
and okay, we're going to do everything you've
been doing. We're just aliens. I think we're
probably also are already at probably the first
part where We have been technically maybe it's
not necessarily. They own us, but they might
release us more or less, and we've got set parameters.
So that might be the whole thing is the plan.
So yours, you know, we're not going to tell you
what to do, but you have to follow this or there
will be consequences. Because if there is a thing
and if they are here, and if they were no consequences
and us using our monkey brain started shooting
them down left, right, and center, how quickly
would it turn for them to start shooting back?
So I think there has to be, if they're real,
there has to have been already something in the
books with it. Yeah. So something else that is
potentially keeping people from really believing
everything, the lack of definitive proof, and
we kind of touched on that earlier, the fact
that there is no giant phallic -shaped saucer
on the White House lawn says, hey, we don't believe
that there's anything here because we don't see
it. You know, it's not like the bean in Chicago.
You can't just walk up to it and put your tongue
on it like everybody else. Have you never put
your tongue on the bean Gibbs? In Chicago? No.
Is this why you don't go to Chicago anymore?
Did they ban you from Chicago? I signed an NDA.
I'm not allowed to talk about it. Yeah. You can't
just be sticking your tongues on random beans.
That's not how that works. That is, in fact,
exactly how that worked, Gibbs. God, you get
lost in Mexico. Stigma and misconceptions. The
topic of UFOs has been associated with fringe
beliefs and conspiracy theories for decades.
Just mentioning the fact that you saw UFO makes
people think you wear one of these all day. It's
becoming less of a thing now. The stigmas and
the. I'm sorry, I lost my train of thought for
a second. The stigma is being reduced. There
are congressional offices being put together,
have been put together. So federal offices are
now being funded by our tax dollars to study
UAP, unidentified aerial phenomenon for those
who don't know. That's something that has been
keeping information suppressed. The fact that
people are afraid to come out and say, hey, I
saw something in the sky. You can thank the CIA
for that one. Because they punish people all
the way back in the 50s and 50s for talking about
that kind of stuff. Right. They still do have
plenty of reports every year, though. Within
these hearings, they say they'll have a few hundred
every year. This is military reports. This is
military equipment, fighter jets, stuff like
that. But I would say the majority of those are
probably anomalies, though. I'm sure some of
those are actually UFOs or UAPs, but... Those
three to four hundred narrow it down to the UAPs.
Strictly UAPs, not just anomalies and stuff like
that. This was strictly... They looked at the
picture and was like, yeah, that's some crazy
shit. So you would think if there was any sort
of definitive proof, we'd at least have one good
photo or two. or something right a few good photos
some some good videos that you you'd be able
to sit there and say okay yeah that's a real
video that's not some photoshopped ai edited
bullshit like the will smith eating spaghetti
video but at the same time a really good picture
is going to look like something is just really
good at editing it in yeah that's the problem
like we were talking about last week, we're going
to hit a spot in the very, very near future where
it's going to be impossible to determine if a
photo or video is fake or not. Because AI is
so good at making those. We're close. There's
a good chance there are a lot of good, real pictures
out there that are out in the world, but everyone
just believes it's fake for one reason or another,
but is actually real. Right. And that would be
lost in the ether. I mean, at the end of the
day, I think it would ultimately take it being
government things being released. They're going,
hey, with our sensors and this is with, you know,
this is corroborated with, you know, X, Y, Z.
You know, we've got reports on this. This is
what it looks like. You know, we see multiple
things like this within all the hearings they've
already passed that they've got to basically
release all the information from the. since 47
up until like 25 years ago so i would like for
them to re -release uh news broadcasts and and
things that they have scrubbed from the internet
that might and then i would like for them to
release why uh what what really kind of upsets
me is back in the early 2000s i remember watching
video of news reports from somewhere in south
central america I want to say it was around Mexico,
but I thought it was something out of a movie
because I remembered seeing something similar
from Signs. And I thought they were like re -releasing
it or making a Signs 2 or something. But it was
reports of lights or something over a city in
Mexico. But they saw them at night. They were
just hovering. And then the day came and they
didn't think they were still there. But people
were throwing objects where the lights were and
the objects were hitting them and bouncing off.
I remember clearly watching the reports of these
videos. Go to search form. You can't find them.
Now, yes, it's been 20 years. But either we got
harambeed by it or something. I don't know. Yes,
there's a good bit that we don't know and that
we probably won't know. I hope they start releasing
all that stuff, everything to do with anything
that they scrubbed news article -wise. I think
if they end up starting to declassify things
as they've said it, I would imagine they'd have
to have some sort of report as to scrubbing files
and then having a reason to scrub it within their
documents. So we might end up actually seeing
this was a thing that happened here that we needed
to hide for national security reasons and stuff
like that. If they start releasing it, we'll
probably see it then. As if they make it that
far. Yeah, if. We'll see. The last big thing
was the so what factor. And I think Gibbs, you
already kind of touched on that a little bit.
Even if people accept the possibility that there
is extraterrestrial life, it may not seem relevant
because of everyday life. So. Now, I don't know
anybody outside of like our immediate group,
like people just go to work, come home, deal
with the family, go to bed. Most people. Oh,
no. You left the discord. It's very hard to talk
to you when you're not in the discord, buddy.
Oh, my God. That's right. That's good. I'm just
going to continue talking and it's going to be
on the video. Yeah. He's no longer the discord
for this. So I don't know why he left. He's just
staring at the abyss. There he is. Welcome back.
Oh, I just ruined the whole episode. No, you
didn't. Keep it in. Because I think it's funny.
Oh. But most people really don't care, dude.
If it doesn't affect their life directly, who
the hell cares? I think that's part of the issue.
I don't think people understand how it would
affect their life. That's the issue. It's not
necessarily that people don't believe. It's just
people don't understand. The UFOs used to be
a big thing because people thought that, oh yeah,
what if the aliens come to get me? Whereas nowadays,
everybody knows that the aliens aren't coming
to get you. You're like one of eight fucking
billion people. They're not coming after you.
Yeah, you have a better chance of people coming
for you. You have a better chance of winning
the lottery. You know? So, it's just one of those
things where now that people's priorities have
shifted, but then again, back then... You got
to realize back in the 70s and 60s, they didn't
know about the crazy stuff that like different
governments were happening in different things,
parts of the world, different history. There's
a lot of stuff that people thought, wow, the
craziest things could be seeing these crop circles
and looking at and looking at a UFO. To them,
that was the most mind boggling thing. Meanwhile,
in 2025, you realize that the U .S. government
does chemical testing on our own people and kills
its own citizens and all these other mumbo jumbo
that we've talked about previously. Oh, look
at the food. Oh, my God. Our food supply. We're
eating ourselves to death. I hate it. It's delicious,
but I hate it. You're not wrong. Deliciously
terrible. No. Oh, my God. I'll be happy once
we're on European standards for food. Just saying.
Yeah. So I found a list. I'll put it up in the
Discord later if I remember. When RFK banned
the food dyes and whatnot, they're changing the
name of those dyes to keep them in the food.
I found the list that they're changing those
to, so I will post that later. Actually, that
would be helpful if I had those at some point.
Not even surprised. Can do. Yeah. So. And I apologize
for anybody watching the technological mishap
failure spritz that I had there for a second.
That was just kind of funny. I meant to close
Steam because I was getting pop -up alerts. I'm
like, I don't need to be showing that shit off.
Oh, you're getting pop -ups, were you? Yeah,
there were finally pop -ups in my life that told
me things that I didn't need to know. You look
at those ones, don't you? I had to because they
just... They were like, hey. For the listeners
at home, there's a backstory about this. We'll
get to one of these days. Yes. So one thing to
keep in mind is that there's a lot more public
interest in the UFO UAP phenomenon now with the
government acknowledging that. This is a real
thing and that it needs to be looked into more.
Media and even scientists now are getting in
on this. Avi Loeb is a very respected scientist
and he has written books and put together a team
to build a new telescope to monitor the sky at
all times through the night and begin finding
that are coming into the atmosphere. So that'll
be something to keep an eye on. There is a sense
of malaise over about a lot of things. The different
reports, the amount of fake news that's out there
with this stuff, the AI and deep fake generated
content. There is genuine curiosity about the
issue. It's not such a big thing to talk about
these things in our skies anymore. Yeah, it's
going to be the new normal eventually. Eventually.
And one day we'll get our Zephyr and Cochran
day where they just land a ship somewhere and
start shaking hands. I think that's going to
be the thing that's needed to get everybody on
board. Yeah. I have a feeling the aliens are
going to get one look at this thing we call the
internet. And they're going to say, glass this
bitch. They've probably already seen it at this
point. That's probably why they don't talk to
us. They're like, oh my god, they did what with
their what? Like, oh no, run away. If they saw
two girls, one cup, we're done. Yeah, for the
sake of the human race, we have to get rid of
that video. They put piercings where? Oh man,
that's... I feel like maybe the reason why we're
on this planet is we are this really weird nature
reserve where other aliens go look at us. The
zoo hypothesis. We are here because we are interesting
to watch. I don't know. I've kind of started
leaning towards this is a take two. We see things
from Mars that could not have been put there
naturally. I like the distant origin theory that
we did not originate here. And if you think about
some of the medical problems that we develop
as humans, that one kind of makes sense. Like
we get sunburn, no other mammal on this planet
does. We get a lot of back and joint issues could
be because of the gravity here. We weren't really
designed for it. Mars is lower gravity. Yeah.
Mm -hmm. Wouldn't it be crazy if they started
a Mars colony and then everyone's like, wow,
this is fantastic. My back doesn't hurt. We live
to be like 200 there. That's going to be sad
when people spend the first 10 years in this
and they're thinking, you know, a lot of these
medical ailments that we have to deal with just
don't really exist on Mars. Even more importantly,
when people take chiropractic visits to Mars,
that's when your shit's getting weird. I mean,
eventually it might get cheap enough. Oh! Babies
in space. That's a lot of logistics. I don't
think you guys... No, there was a thing, a spin
table, a centrifugal force spin table was developed
in the 60s to assist with labor and delivery
in women. They are considering putting this table
into use in space for... Am I sorry that all
I can think about is a woman giving birth and
mocking Jesus and that baby coming flying out?
It's got a net at the end of the table. I can't
kill a baby when it gets flung out. But oh my
God, I saw this thing. I could not stop laughing.
That makes sense. I'm sitting here thinking that
poor woman in agony of birth Also having to deal
with the agony of being spun. But wouldn't it
just feel like she's just standing up? So it
might just help. You're still going to see the
rum spinning around her. Close your eyes. Yeah,
it's going to be the fucking Jeopardy wheel of
births over here. It's fucking like, God damn.
Do they at least get a prize if she births them
in a certain direction? Just like, oh, you know,
you went on a free trip to Miami. Woohoo! They're
going to have to rename Lamaze. to lavam because
they're gonna be he he i i couldn't do it man
the the dad's in the room oh my god they're gonna
have to spin them too because they're gonna want
to hold hands i i know every every dad's you
know every birth's gonna have just the back or
just a throw of you spin me right round baby
right just in the distance you know i feel like
there could be a whole comedy series based on
like living Like a ship going from one planet
to another it's like a five -year long trip.
It's just like almost a Like not like friends,
but like um Let me be kind of like friends, but
just imagine the episode where someone's giving
birth all right get onto the spin table Jerry
Jerry get the net you got to catch this kid gonna
be coming out of 35 miles an hour. It's gonna
be quick It's like a soggy softball. I'll tell
you, buddy. Congratulations. It's a boy and a
home run. Jesus. Oh, so something that we could
try to look for would be further evidence would
help. bring people together and coalesce around
it, the whole idea. Having conclusive evidence
of technology, not of this world, or in fact
life, would prove beyond a shadow of a doubt
that it exists and would have a major impact
on society as a whole. I don't know about you,
but if I saw... Zaxxar III from... Calaxia 9
giving a speech in front of the White House.
Yeah, I'd listen. Yep. There you go. I'm going
to pause work for a little bit. Make sure we're
not going to get blown up real quick. Yeah, if
old boy goes to the microphone and just looks
around and starts going, I'm going to grab my
shit and run. I saw that one. I don't get the
reference. You guys are too young. You guys are
too young. Oh, my God. Yes. Mars attacks. Yes,
I am too young. Yep, yep. Now hear me out. What
if the aliens are like coneheads? Yeah. Where
you come from, France? You want to be funny?
How have you seen coneheads but not Mars attacks?
I don't know. I don't pick what movies I saw
when I was a kid. I just saw them. They just
kind of appeared. We're going to have a movie
night. We're going to have a movie night. You
know what, though? I wonder if aliens get a kick
out of watching our alien movies. Oh, look at
these dumb ass. I would be terrified. I wouldn't
know what to think. I would know if they were
showing off their real technology or not, because
through the decades of the movie development.
our supposed technology has gotten so much better.
Um, at one point we actually went backwards in
time with our technology in the movies. And now
we've taken further leaps again. So like, you
can tell which ones are like pure bullshit and
which ones are like, Oh, they could really have
that stuff. So if I was an alien watching some
of these movies, I would be like, Oh, We may
really not want to fuck with these guys. We can
zip zap their existence into nothing, but we're
going to die too. We're supposed to be able to
stomp them. I read a science fiction story. It
was like 30 pages long one day, but it put up
an interesting proposition of what if humans
are not the most advanced species in the universe,
but really good at one thing, ranged combat.
It was the idea that no other species in the
galaxy had thought about making the thing called
the gun. So they went to invade Earth, and they
brought a million soldiers, and they landed them
in the middle of Oklahoma, and they all land,
and they start spreading out, and they make it
like a few hundred miles. And they encounter
this thing called the tank, and the rifle, and
artillery, and better yet, the fucking A -10
Warthog. And they realize, oh, you know, we can
travel the stars. But we're not fucking with
these people. It is very possible that while
in some ways we are not technologically savvy,
we are very good at killing each other. We are
exceptionally good at that. That is something
we kind of have a gold star, I think, for. So
who knows? Who knows? It could be the case of,
or something else to consider is more of the
worlds, where it might not be us that defeats
them, but our biology. because also not for nothing
we are fucking dirty creatures um we're disgusting
yeah so like we are kind of the nurgle plague
father just with surrounding ourselves and it's
just like wafting ooze of aromas that who knows
it could be the case of like they they try to
invade and then they realize they've never heard
of microbiology they've never heard Of this kind
of stuff. Gibbs. No. It could be the oyster gravy
Gibbs. No, shut the fuck up. No, not on stream.
Not on stream. No. No, I refuse to let that happen
on stream. No. Sit. One thing you have to keep
in mind, too, though, is there's a better possibility
that our nukes are what is what's hesitating
them. I mean. Although I. Yeah. I don't think
nuclear technology would be that. If you can
travel to stars, I. I'd assume you'd have to
get some... Getting blown the fuck up is getting
blown the fuck up. Realistically, yes, unless
they have some kind of ultra -advanced shielding
technology, or they have an armor that can, like,
use zero -point energy and just absorb the force
of detonation. But we have enough nukes. That
is probably thermodynamically impossible. You're
still going to have to contend with the fact
that, yeah, They may have advanced weaponry,
but we have crew weaponry that works. And the
thing is, we have enough nuclear weapons that
we might not win, but we're not going to fucking
lose. Oh, no. We'll all lose. You know what,
though? You know what, though? For a species
that cannot really travel outside of our planet,
if we're able to destroy an invading army of
any sort of greater force, that is a fucking
win in my book. I am okay with that. As soon
as they invade, you just see B2s and everything
start just going in on them. They are. All right.
Yeah. And not only that, but I think every nation
on Earth would come together to fight as one.
It's like we can put our hatred of each other
aside for this one day. Right. Let's survive
till tomorrow and we'll figure things out. Yeah.
We'll hate each other tomorrow. Having increased
public discourse, getting the public at large
to discuss the whole UAP alien phenomenon can
promote the sharing of information that could
prove to be crucial. Especially in a time of
actual contact. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. They've already
been reports of basically treaties between the
US and Russia about UAPs and stuff like that.
Yeah. That'd be kind of odd to be literally in
the middle of fighting and be like, hey, ceasefire
for just a minute. Quick timeout! We're going
to stop killing each other because this weird
cube just showed up overhead. Or, hey, by the
way, that fast movement thing was not a missile
that we shot at you guys. Yeah. If you think
it is, call us first. Yeah. The amount of nuclear
close calls we've had that are attributed to
essentially alien phenomenon are kind of scary.
Disabling of... Nuclear systems or activating
of nuclear systems. Yeah. Them basically showing,
hey, you really don't control your own stuff.
Exactly. That's terrifying. Exploration of the
implications, talking about the different consequences
of actual contact with extraterrestrial life
can make the topic more relevant and definitely
more engaging for the public. Getting people
used to the idea of contact makes it more palatable
if and or when it happens. I'm just more concerned
that people are going to see aliens and think,
wow, can I fuck it? That's the thought people
have had for decades. If I am legitimately single
at that time, I will make it my life's dream
to become the Earth's William Shatner. I guess.
What the hell was his name? Captain. So which
one are you talking about? Shatner. Yeah, he's
Kirk. Kirk, that's right. God damn. You're talking
to the Star Trek nerd here. I am too. God, words
are hard tonight. That's okay. Yeah, I will be
our planet's Captain Kirk if I am legitimately
single at that point. If it has cheeks, I will
clap them. I will quote you on that one. I will
quote you on that one. You hear that, fellas?
He's open for business. But I guess what would
really be concerning is like, all right, so they
introduce aliens and they become like a semi
part of society. Things are going to get weird.
Very weird. Imagine just going to a restaurant
and just got a little gray dude just chilling,
chowing down on a Big Mac. Oh, Lord. I guess
my thing is, like, I'd be okay with it because
I'm pretty chill with that stuff. But then, like,
it depends on, like, what kind of cultures they
would have and, like, kind of how they interact.
Because, you know, things can get very weird
very quickly. Now. That exact point that you
just made is something that I wanted to break
up towards the end of the episode. Yeah. Which
point? Suppose contact is actually made with
an alien species. Yeah. Let's say they could
actually help us with all of our really big issues.
Okay. What's the catch? Well. Let me get there,
okay? I'm trying to paint you a mural of a picture.
So they can solve all of our technological, environmental,
energy, medical issues, war, everything. But
it turns out they have a cultural practice that
we here on Earth find to be absolutely abhorrent.
Let's say, They do something. On the level of
cannibalism, because of the size of their population,
they have found that the only way to sustain
their populace is through the use of their younglings,
their spawn. And for all intents and purposes,
they more or less look like us. So they're using
what we would consider children. So it's theirs,
but it's not ours? Well, I'll get to that. So
they consume and use theirs to produce more for
consumption. So essentially, they're using...
Parts of their species that we would consider
to be our children as breed and feedstock for
the food supply. And in exchange for them working
with us to correct all of our technology and
societal and medical issues, they say, well,
we'd like to exchange DNA. With your people.
We want to enhance our food supply. No. But we
can do all this good for you. Well, figure it
out. Well, I would use that offer to someone
in a cup and like. That's it. And then we get
all the benefits. And like, if it's their kids
that they do, and if they use part of our genes.
it's their culture and i guess so you would be
okay with them making kids from your stuff and
then eating them using them to breed more and
eating them i think i guess we would like i guess
in their culture it's perfectly fine so i guess
my question is who are we who are we to tell
them a technologically superior species that
what they're doing and have been doing for potentially
hundreds of thousands of years. I would hope
there's another option on the table. I'd rather
have a different galactic overlord. But if the
option is the complete evisceration of our planet,
or we give them a sample and they just kind of
take care of us and leave us alone, I think that
would be the better option over being destroyed.
But if there's an option of... Or we can just,
you know, talk to the next species and see if
they've got a better option. See if we can wheel
and deal an overlord. Uh -huh. So, I have a lot
of questions. Okay. Would their technology, as
in, do they pass on, like, the blueprints and
all the information to us, or do they just make
it for us? Nope, they give us everything. And
all they need is one sample. Well, that's what
you were saying. They want all the samples. Oh,
everyone's in a cup and then send it off. What
are they going to? They want all they're going
to fucking milk me like Jesus Christ. Like, where
are you going with this? What the fuck? Where
are you going with? So what if they actually
wanted us to give up some of our children? This
I think that crossing the line. No. What I would
do at this point is I become a politician and
say, hey, why don't we get our shit together
so we don't have to do what these people do?
That's it. I will use it as a rallying cry to
say, let's get our shit together. But that being
said, it would be one thing if they just needed
some splooge in a cup, like, sure, whatever,
fucking on a field day. At least pick someone
that represents our civilization well, like Henry
Cavill or something like that. Fine. Get him
to do a take one for humanity. Let him do his
thing. It's fine. Not a big deal, buddy. But,
like, it depends on, like, if they had the technology
where it literally would be, like, infinite energy
replicator, food production, like, that kind
of stuff, that's very tempting. But if it's just,
oh, yeah, you get marginally better nuclear reactors,
no. It depends on, like, you know what I mean?
I'm talking, like, societal change. Are you talking,
like, are you talking Star Trek, like, 24th century
level? Yep. Then at that point, if it has nothing
to do with our physical humans that identify
as humans on Earth right now, then sure, whatever.
I think that's worth it. But if you're talking
about abducting actual humans, then no. But they're
going to make actual humans. They're not humans.
They're not from Earth. So if they take the DNA,
grow it, And make humans. That become children.
Human kids. There will be a human colony essentially.
Running around. As breed and feed stock. On their
planet. Not on our planet. Here's my thought.
We use that technology. Eventually we just conquer
them back. What if there's an intelligent race
of cows. And that we've been. Absolutely murking
their ancestors. What do you mean you drink milk?
You drink the sacred liquid? What is the quarter
pounder made with? Imagine explaining that to
a sentient race of cows that, by the way, we
love you guys so much that we have entire fast
food chains. We could get cowed under a minute.
That's how much we need this shit. I'm sorry.
I just got the image of some dude like jumping
down and trying to suck off the cow teats. We
worship you. Well, depending where they land,
that might happen. Sir, that's a bowl. I thought
this milk tasted funny. Jesus. Oh, man. Let's
just hope it's not like a sentient race of chickens
or something like that because they're fucking
vicious. Yeah, they are. Although that brings
up a point. I want to get a rooster. So that
I can name it girthy. And then I want to sit
on my front porch and pet it. In my shorts. You
know, I can't say the language I'd like to use
because we're streaming. But that's not okay.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, understandable. Because when
I write it on the police report, the words I'm
going to use are not going to describe what you're
doing. They're going to describe exactly what
we all think you're doing. Uh -huh. Where is
that meme of, he's ripping his cock out? Oh,
man. Oh, God. Am I going to have to start? So
I had to pull up the types of reports that have
been given over the years since the UFOs have
been being reported. Almost 30 ,000 orbs. have
been reported, by and large, the largest amount
of general reportings. Triangle, 20 ,000. The
generalized category of other, so like your teacup,
bells, your trapezoid -type shit, 10 ,000 of
those. I appreciate that these aliens have really
mastered geometry. So here's the other part of
that theory. Quick to pause you. Those might
be ours. Yeah, sure. Those could be ours. Yes.
Imagine asking a pilot, what do you fly? And
his answer is the wedge. It's helicopters and
things like that. Things that hover. Yeah. Hovercraft.
Yes. I fly my teacup short and stout. A meat
tricycle. I'm the conductor of the meat train.
10 ,000 fireballs. 9 ,000 discs. Almost 8 ,000
eggs. 6 ,500 cigars. 4 ,200 changelings. So objects
that have changed shape while being observed.
2 ,700 rectangles and a little over 2 ,000 diamonds.
Because diamonds are generic. Honestly, the amount
of people that have reported these things from
all walks of life. We've had a president or two
that have admitted to them. Christopher Columbus
in his logs talked about glowing lights under
the water. Congress people. senators pilots literally
navy pilots uh air force marines seals some of
our best trained yeah special forces uh when
these people come out who have been stellar people
their whole lives have highest level security
clearances and they're saying hey look we have
this stuff in our government it may be a threat
at some point the public at large needs to be
aware of this and they need to be ready for this.
That's something to take into consideration.
It should be on the news. Right. Not too long
ago, there was a report that the James Webb saw
objects in space that were course correcting.
Now, I've tried to read the reports that I could
find on the web about that. And even I still
can't figure out if it was something true or
not. Let's ask Rock. But if James Webb saw something
that was akin to a fleet of objects and they
are course correcting in any manner, that's something
to be worried about. Because Objects in space
don't course correct. That you know of. Well,
natural objects, I should say. That you know
of. Yeah. Who knows? Maybe they made a boomerang
in space. Yeah. Space sword boomerang. Exactly.
See, now you're getting it. Yes. Exactly. Goodbye,
space sword. I would have liked to have seen
an episode where they went and found the space
sword for Sokka. That would have been awesome.
It's a shame that Legend of Korra wasn't as good
as Last Airbender. I know. I'm excited to see
the next one coming out. I hope it slaps like
Will Smith. So, I am through my notes. Did you
guys have anything else you wanted to bring up
or mention? Anything from Grok on that? It's
not refreshing. Okay. So, it's probably not a
lot to talk about it. There's something for us
if we send AI to the stars and then it tries
to come back a thousand years later and take
us over like V 'ger. See, you and I both have
a favorite game series based on that concept.
Yes. Oh, yeah. Oh, yes. For the audience at home,
Pip and I here are very big Earth Siege fans.
It's a very out there game series based on a
game called Star Siege. And the idea of that
is that humanity gets to a point to where there's
basically an emperor of mankind. They develop
an AI and the AI gets so advanced. It's so freaking
scary. They put it in a ship and throw it out
into space and hope to God it gets destroyed.
Well, it does not. He is very angry and he decides
to try and take over humanity. And it's a very
interesting story about the fights and the battles
and technology and what happens. But yeah, I
don't think we should ever let any AI out of
our sight, let alone out of our control. I don't
trust any of that shit. You already know my opinion.
It should all fucking burn at the rate we're
going. I can see a good use for it in the future.
Yeah. We talk about AI a lot on this show. I
think AI can be very useful. I just think that
we need to monitor it carefully with a rifle
to its CPU core. As long as we can program the
three laws to have it actually function, then
it would be worth it. And don't give it a side
door that it can decide whether or not to obey
the three laws. Exactly. No sunny scenarios.
then it would work. Because it would make sense
if we could make a ship that was powered by AI
using like micro factories on board with the
idea of sending it off and saying, hey, go colonize
Pluto and just let it get a 100, 200 year head
start. It'd be amazing. Maybe that's the plan
with Starship and everything. Send all the robots,
start building all the habitation, get everything
set up, running, then get people there. I mean,
that'd make the most sense if we could. That's
something we talked about on our Elon to Mars
episode. I think that would be probably the best
strategy. That way you don't have to worry about
things already tested. Even if you had people
in orbit of Mars and a Starlink type system set
up in orbit and then you had people controlling
the bots from orbit doing almost like a VR type
interface to the surface. As long as the tasks
weren't too fine, like generalized construction
type tasks, even if you could queue them up,
I think that would work pretty well. Yeah, 100%.
Then that's when you start building big ships
in space. Yeah. Once atmosphere is not a problem
and you can get robots to do that, then the universe
is your oyster. That's always going to be our
biggest problem. Yeah. You know what else? Shut
the fuck up. No, we're not doing that. That's
true. No. No. The audience at home, I'm sorry,
but I'm not letting that happen. No. No, no,
no, no, no. No. I've got Grok searching now for
the course correction thing. Okay. See if it
says anything. I got to hear this. Grok being
one of the AI tools that have been released fairly
recently. Drumroll, please. What does Grok say?
It looks like it misunderstood and asked if it
has done course corrections. Oh, my God. Well,
it's trying. The spirit's there, but... The spirit's
willing, but the flesh is spongy and bruised.
Basket has it seen objects that make course corrections
Seems likely that the James Webb Space Telescope
has not observed objects such as asteroids or
comets making course corrections. But Grock,
we just high up. Oh, yeah. Yeah, and then it
says debunked rumors. There have been claims
in social media that JWSC observed large, possibly
non -natural object making course corrections,
but fact checks such as those by Snopes have
found no evidence to support those claims. Snopes
is very reliable. No. No, not even a little bit.
Yeah, so unfortunately that may not be a real
thing. On the plus side, it might actually be
real and it's just being covered up. You never
know. Never know. Not until it shows up in orbit.
Pretty much. And then it's going to be a don't
look up issue. By the time we see it in orbit,
we're already fucked, guys. There's no... That's
when Musk just launches every single rock he
has at it. Yeah, pretty much. Unless they try
to mine it. Mine it before it gets here. There's
not itself anymore. So I think a starship can
carry like 50 to a hundred tons. So that's not,
not, not a lot. That's I think a couple of billion
dollars of material. That's worth it. If they
could find an asteroid with 50 tons of gold,
that's $5 billion right there. More than that.
Yeah. Yeah. Asteroid mining definitely needs
to happen. how it happens will be the key. I
think they either sent something or they're getting
ready to send something to test, make sure it's
feasible to get something to get close to an
asteroid and go from there. That's why Elon's
going to be the first trillionaire. 100%. Yeah,
it'll either be Elon or whoever. Literally, the
first trillionaire will be a space miner. Calling
it. It's Musk. Most likely. If SpaceX was a publicly
traded company, I would have all my money in
it. As soon as it gets an IPO, I plan on investing
in it. Anything and everything I'd own, I'd sell
every other stock just for that. Don't go crazy.
If they figure out mining out there and then
bringing back reasonable, that's going to be
your best performing stock, period. You might
as well. Yeah. They're not wrong. Maybe they'll
find a couple of UFOs while they're out there.
Exactly. Exactly. But yeah, I, I don't have anything
else to add in Gibbs. No, we covered everything
I wanted to talk about. Alrighty. Well, thank
you to our friend LT who never bothered to tell
us about himself on the, on the show. Thank you
for joining us tonight. Thank you for having
me. Thank you for having me. Gibbs, anything
else that you wanted to plug in about anything?
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