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Welcome back to Now We Consume podcast.
Great to have you all back.
Really appreciate hearing you all, seeing you all again.
As you tell by the intro, we're going to have a fun topic today.
The topic today is about the government really is lying to you.
Now, we have had any doubt.
I know, I know, I know we've been kind of harping on the not the anti-government stuff,
but we've definitely been kind of highlighting a lot of the problems and issues inherently.
When it comes to living just humongous governments with millions of people working for them,
it's so many different, I guess, interest going on.
There's a lot that happens with the US government, particularly a lot that happens that people don't really know about or are only here in passing.
There are things that maybe some people think about all those conspiracies and other stuff.
Unfortunately, though, as we've learned over the years with many conspiracies,
all it takes is a little bit of time to prove it.
They had a lot of merit to them.
I'm not going to say they're always 100 percent right, but, boys, it's scary how much of it that can be proven true.
Oh, yeah.
So that being said, we have several, I mean, several, I think it's a list of topics.
I think it's probably more apropos example to have here of topics for us to get into today.
Starting with, I know one of your probably personal favorites.
Yeah. But before before we get into that, we had a nice little break.
We were taking some time to enjoy the holidays.
I know you were dealing with some technical issues.
Ah, my computer decided how to Seppuku felt.
I enjoyed it and I didn't like it.
Yeah. So I just want to say welcome back to everybody.
I got to spend some time with my kids.
And as a parent, I hope that some people can relate.
You can only listen to your hump dumplings, say that they're bored so many times after Christmas
before you start to begin questioning yourself as a parent and where you went wrong.
I'm sorry. Did you refer to your children's hump dumplings?
It's better than the other phrase I've used.
You're not wrong, but I still don't like it.
Oh, my God. The imagery.
I don't like it.
Oh, no, it's great.
Spend the time with the boys.
But when when they get a bunch of cool new shit for Christmas and then within a day or two, they're like, Dad, I'm bored.
I can make you not bored.
You're not going to like it.
I'm sure there's plenty of work to be done around the house.
Oh, yeah.
But no, we have a lot of subjects that we're going to cover tonight.
And the big one, it's probably the first one that gets talked about on any podcast that covers any kind of government involved shenanigans.
We are, of course, talking about the infamous MK Ultra program.
Anyone who has any fascination with the workings of government programs and government involvement, shall we say, in the workings of society knows what MK Ultra is, what it was and what they did.
The absolute brief top level synopsis, the CIA experimented on humans.
We assume just humans, though.
Most of the time without their knowledge or consent.
They experimented with mind control, chemical interrogation techniques, using drugs like LSD.
They use hypnosis, they use sensory deprivation and various forms of psychological torture to see if they could manipulate people into basically becoming sleeper agents like the Manchurian candidate.
You remember that movie, Bucky from the Marvel movies.
That's a great way to associate a sleeper agent.
And this experiment was running for upwards of 20 some odd years from the 1950s through the 1970s.
It was covered up quite well.
And it was not disclosed until what the 90s.
Yes, the mid to late 90s.
It was confirmed.
Now, something for everyone at home to keep in mind.
We're discussing stuff that we have verifiable proof that's been released, that a documents were not.
This is not like a tinfoil hat episode.
Trust me, we're going to get to those.
We're not wearing this tonight.
Not yet.
We'll get there.
I already have mine prepped in a few weeks, but I'm still bedazzling it and everything.
I want to decorate it.
But if you're going to be a conspiracy theorist, why not be a little, you know, a little fancy one of a dazzle.
But anyway, I'm going to ignore that one.
So the but the point is we're talking about stuff that is confirmed that has been released to the public.
This is this is actually the least conspiracy level one that we'll be talking about tonight.
And what is absolutely insane is it went on for over 20 years and they've never confirmed that they shut it down.
That's probably the worst part is that it never had a confirmed stop date.
No, they said that they released it from the 50s to the 70s in terms of what has been confirmed that did happen.
There have been apps and I've looked this up.
There are no documents out there confirming that MK Ultra was ever either shut down or stopped, which makes you wonder.
And again, I'm not saying everything is like that, but with all the weird stuff that's happened in this country over the past three or four decades, the unexplainable stuff, the violence that happened.
Three or four months.
I mean, obviously, yes, but one of them, I think that the cyber truck thing with the bombing thing, that's going to be a separate topic with all the stuff that's coming out about it.
Yeah. But the I guess the point of getting as with all the unexplained things that have happened, particularly when weirdly enough, the FBI and the CIA suddenly get involved to shut down all information and everything.
And they don't let anything out.
Boy, does it sound like not every time, not even all the time or most of the time.
There have been a few episodes where I think it was MK Ultra gone wrong.
Yeah. Where something happened where oh crap.
This happened and it wasn't supposed to.
And we got to cover our tracks, going to cover our butts.
You know, you mentioned the the alphabet agencies getting involved.
I just kind of had a little flashback to that incident down in Florida where all the people were running out of the mall.
And there were power outages, cell phone videos kept getting deleted from the Internet.
And it was like a total information blackout.
And the few things that did come out, it was all kind of similar.
They kept saying I have reports of like tall creatures of some kind.
It was sounding like aliens or something.
But there was never anything confirmed other than power outage.
And it's like, OK, power outages don't make people panic the way that you saw in those videos that did come out.
What were they afraid of?
And to this day, I don't know that I've ever seen anything that 100 percent confirmed.
Oh, yeah, it was this.
No, no one can.
And what's weird is if you look at the police trackers that night, look at scans or whatnot that were saved.
Nothing makes sense.
No. There's people reporting like 90 different things.
The only underlying thing that is confirmed that we know is that there was an event that happened and the power went out and that that place was swarmed by not only officers, but different alphabet agencies in a matter of minutes and completely swarmed.
Honestly, I would have thought like a mass tragedy would have happened.
Right. Like there was less of a reaction to the shooting in Vegas than there was to that mall incident.
Which is kind of crazy when you think about it.
So whatever the hell happened, it was very serious.
And which, by the way, it just I do want to say, oh, yeah, without a trace, you can't find anything.
By the way, I do want to point out we will do an episode on the Vegas shooting because I have a lot of information about that.
Oh, yeah.
I just want to tease her on that one because I'm going to let the tism show on that one.
That's I have to.
There's so much of that that bothers me.
The reason I want to bring that up was because you had a situation where a guy was shooting down into a crowd, a large crowd causing allegedly.
Yeah. Yes, I know. I'm going to assume everything's correct.
Just for the sake of the argument. But you're not wrong.
There were hundreds of injuries. Right. So many people negatively affected.
And yet the police didn't respond nearly as quickly to that as they did to that mall situation.
Yeah. In Florida.
That is what scares me.
Whatever the hell happened.
It must have been something far more serious than a guy unloading onto a large crowd.
Right.
So what the hell happened? I've tried to look for it.
You've tried to look for it. I can't find it.
And teenagers fighting fireworks, a bomb threat.
I mean, those are the only things that you can find that are like air quote confirmed and that's barely confirmed.
And even then, even if all those things did happen, the police did not warrant that.
No.
I mean, think about this, the Tesla truck that went off on one of Trump's locations that didn't even require the same level of police response, which is insane.
So whatever happened, I don't know if we'll ever know.
I'm hoping somebody does a FOIA request and we eventually get some information, but it'll be 30 years before we're ever privy to that.
Yeah. And by that time, aliens will have already conquered this planet anyway.
So it won't matter.
Yeah. But speaking of not aliens, the next item on our list.
And I do want to kind of move this along because this is going to turn into a three hour episode if we don't.
The infamous, and I do say infamous, Tuskegee syphilis experiments that were carried out for an insanely long time, 1932 to 1972.
Forty years.
And this was bad because hundreds and probably more than hundreds.
It's more than that.
This is what's reported.
It was reported that hundreds, but likely thousands, if not tens of thousands, of African American men were injected with syphilis to be studied by the US Public Health Service.
They were deliberately withheld treatment, even after penicillin became the standard treatment.
And it was the whole purpose of the experiment was aimed to observe the natural progression of the disease.
And they chose airmen who were serving in World War II, fighting for our country.
They just happened to be carriers of a little extra melanin.
And I mean, I know that the airmen weren't the only ones.
It was the Tuskegee area.
Without looking it up, I do not know the state.
I want to say like Mississippi or Alabama.
It was Alabama, I believe.
But it goes to show that not only that, no matter what position you're in in this government, in this country, you're not safe.
Oh, yeah.
They will target you at any time. They will use any justification to target you.
And there were civilians as well.
It wasn't just the airmen and people that were working for the military.
There were civilians that were targeted.
And the problem is none of this was ever made public until I believe about the 70s or the 80s.
But it was well after the Civil Rights Movement and everything else.
And they targeted them specifically because they knew they weren't going to go to the media.
They weren't going to do anything.
There really wasn't anywhere for them to go.
And if something happened, no one was going to care because this was pre Civil Rights Movement.
Yeah.
This is arguably one of the worst things the U.S. government has ever done.
And this will segue into a topic later on.
But I am surprised that anybody ever trusts the government when it comes to medicine.
Because that is that is one of the most egregious things done medically to citizens of almost any country, let alone American and that I've ever heard of.
And keep in mind, they didn't just target the the men in this case.
They were following and studying the women that they were involved with to and the kids that they ended up having.
So and the women didn't have any part of this because they were just the innocent bystanders.
But they that that entire town became involved in it.
It's horrible.
What's what's insane with a lot of people, the medical complications, issues, the people that died.
Oh, yeah. It became so out of control.
But unfortunately, and this could be a common theme of tonight when you let scientists do whatever they want and justify it with their own.
They push ethics aside to justify what they want.
Bad things happen every single time.
Well, it's just like what the Germans did.
Oh, yeah. And oh, speaking of Germans, we now have Operation Paperclip.
Nice segue. Operation Paperclip was run from 1945 to 1957.
It was a secret U.S. intelligence program that took place after World War Two was over.
The primary goal being to bring German scientists, engineers and technicians from Nazi Germany over to the United States for exploitation of their knowledge and expertise.
Literally the reason we went to space.
We can thank the remnants of Nazi Germany for the fact that there are boot prints on the moon.
And by the way, yes, there are boot prints on the moon.
Well, yes, if people are still that's one of those conspiracies.
And I understand that people that deny them went to the moon.
So, OK, we did go there.
If you want to take like a two minute segue, I can completely understand why there is that conspiracy.
I can totally see the justification.
It was done to try to bankrupt the Soviet Union because we didn't have the technology supposedly.
And even to this day, when there are interviews that happen, people slip up and say things like, yeah, we don't have the technology to go to the moon or the technology doesn't exist anymore and all this other shit.
And it's like, well, we did it once. Right.
And then you've got like Buzz Aldrin, who's gone out several times and he's I don't know if that dude's just off his cracker or what.
But but the stuff that he is alleged.
You know, but you also have to realize that the American government is the king of misinformation.
Oh, yeah.
So what I wouldn't be surprised for is, yes, we did go to the moon, but the motivation why might be completely different to anything any of us ever know.
That's that's the big thing is obviously, obviously, yes, we did go to the moon.
Yeah. But the justification as to why I think far is outweighed and misrepresented.
Yeah, it's clearly when you study like America.
So like it's going to be like a like a one minute second one minute segue.
But trust me on this one, we were scared of the Russians up until we started looking at their jets and their fighters.
We kept assuming their engineering level is equal to ours until we'd actually take a look at them and say, wow, this is incredibly inferior.
Well, they made something that looked a lot better.
It was always the time where we would look at, say, they might have a couple of good advancements, but the package as a whole was never as good as Western technology when it came to either tanks or aircraft.
Yes, there were some outliers, but I'm talking in generality as a whole, especially when it came to production quality and quality assurance, that kind of thing.
So when it came to go to the moon, we knew we'd be able to beat them there.
It's a question of at the time we might we might have genuinely thought, oh crap, the Russians have taken just as many German scientists as we have because we just split them up when we split up Berlin.
We're better.
Clearly, we got the better ones.
We somehow won that draft.
Yeah, we got the first, second, third and fourth pick of that draft.
But the I guess the point is at the time I understand the justification, but the reality of it is Russia was never a threat at beating us to the moon.
But it's possible at the time we had her until wrong.
And there might be reasons that went to the moon that we'll never know.
But with Operation Paperclip, one of the things that happened in Americans were never really told was that the Russian, sorry, the German officers were also pardoned.
Any of their previous crimes, and there were several that designed things like gas chambers or design things like many of the work camps, Auschwitz, places like that to where their entire job was to design the suffering of humanity.
And they were the worst parts of World War Two that we have learned about.
These men engineered that.
And they were pardoned for the sake of getting their intellectual ideas to be able to get their knowledge and information.
And for some look, if you just design jet fighters, I understand that.
Hey, whatever. We need the technology.
But there were so many that were never held accountable.
It is not only embarrassing, but it is such a disgrace, especially when we end up paying them a ton of money.
Let them go wherever.
And there were some of that just escaped down to Brazil or down to South America was Argentina.
Argentina. Yeah.
Yeah.
So supposedly the big man himself got away down there.
I don't know about that one guy.
There's there's some there's some shit, dude.
Maybe that'll be another episode.
We might have to talk about that one.
Because that's something I know nothing about other than I just kind of doubt it.
Yeah.
There it's kind of hard to hide if you're Hitler.
I don't know.
I mean, I would think even even in 1946, people would kind of recognize you.
You shave you shave the mustache and you get rid of the hair.
I mean, it's kind of weird whenever he makes a right turn, he sticks his right hand in a 45 degree angle.
I don't know why.
I mean, it's a counterbalance the weight.
I don't know.
But yeah, we might do an episode on that.
We'll figure it out.
But I guess you make the point because like there's always the Superman episodes where like he puts on a pair of glasses and change his shirt.
Nobody recognized him.
And then Henry Cavill literally did it.
Yeah. And nobody recognized him.
So who knows?
Maybe I'm wrong.
Maybe maybe did survive.
But with Operation Operation People Clip, they lied outright to American citizens at the time.
We all know this is fact now.
But people did not realize the war criminals that they pardoned to get this knowledge and information.
And unfortunately, it caused a lot of issues down the road.
Yeah. I mean, these guys were allowed to live normal, fulfilling lives here in America.
Actually, they got to live as many of them as the rich and wealthy, not not like billionaire status.
They were paid a not insubstantial amount of money to do their jobs at NASA for NASA in accordance with, you know, terms of their pardon.
Oh, yeah.
Especially if you were part of the V1 or V2 rocket program.
That was where a lot of the money went to.
Because that's where we stole a ton of technology from the Germans. And that was really the big gamble.
What America took was like, hey, we want all their aeronautics engineers, because as soon as we saw the ME 262, those measurements in the air, those jet fighters that made all of our stuff look past tense, it was like, oh, crap, we got to get that.
And we couldn't figure it out.
We tried during 1944 and 45, but it wasn't the same.
Yeah, they just had it.
Yeah.
Yeah, World War Two is just one of those things that
it'll it'll always hold appeal to learn about.
What's an endless rabbit hole. Yeah.
That's the thing with war to such a huge turn point in like
technology and warfare and strategy and intelligence and everything.
It's it's really the last war where
all the countries that were fighting it were truly separate, because after that point, the transmission of information and technology became so widespread that a lot of countries utilize the same technology and information, whereas before during World War Two and before then,
everything was kind of homemade, homegrown, you know, design, built, whereas that's no longer the case. Yeah.
So it makes it interesting. It's always something new to learn. Yeah.
And I mean, wars after that were fought very much differently.
Take Vietnam, for example.
We can segue into our next one. The My Lai Massacre happened in 1968.
Right during the middle of the Vietnam War.
US soldiers killed hundreds of unarmed Vietnamese civilians, including women and children and the elderly.
The event was initially covered up by the Army, but investigative journalism eventually brought it to light, sparking widespread outrage.
This massacre was supposed to be used as a false flag operation.
To really try to bring an end to the war by means of atomic means.
Really, are you serious? I didn't know that they wanted to use this as a false flag to try to instigate tensions to flare up so that they could get the excuse to use nukes.
They didn't want to drop the big bombs. They wanted to use the lower end nuclear artillery.
Jesus, I never do that, actually.
That's insane. Yeah.
I again I know America is kind of the king of the false flag operation. Yeah, I knew the massacre happened, but I did not know that was the motivation. That was the motivation.
Look up the nuclear bazooka.
Yes, I know about that. Yeah, those. That was what they wanted to use so that they could try to end the war.
But call me crazy. But the liability of firing a nuclear bazooka.
You're like you're like four or five degrees of aiming off between like hitting the enemy or killing yourself in the worst way possible.
Like if you just aim it slightly off, I mean, or God forbid, like a tree branch falls or something happens.
It's that or Agent Orange. Take your pick.
God, both options suck. Maybe we are the bad guys. I don't know.
Maybe he's because Agent Orange definitely made us the bad guys. Oh, yeah.
You ain't kidding.
Lord, a false flag with that, though. That's wild. Yeah, I've heard about that.
And I didn't take some photos and stuff like that of the massacre and they. Oh, yeah.
Yeah, once once that got out, it was not. It was not good for us.
Jesus. Yeah.
I'm just taking that all in because like that.
Oh, dude, Vietnam itself was horrible.
I will always be of the opinion we should have never been there.
Well, of course, support. Sure. Supplies. Absolutely.
Manpower. No.
No, it's always the problem of we handled that war and really Korea.
Both of those we handled incorrectly. Really, Vietnam. Yeah.
That was such a piss poor showing. But unfortunately, looking back at it,
it seemed almost like we didn't really take it as seriously as we could have.
We didn't really just go and be like, all right, we're stopping this.
We're putting our boot down now.
I'm dragging it out.
I'm not really putting the effort into it that the should have. Yeah.
Well, I mean, way before that massacre, you've got the infamous Gulf of Duncan incident.
Which that really kind of set off the Vietnam War. Absolutely.
Which again, false flag.
Look at that. Just a little.
Number one, baby.
So the Gulf of Tonkin incident, 1964, involved alleged attacks on US Navy ships by North Vietnamese forces.
It was used as justification for escalating US involvement in the Vietnam War at that time.
Later investigations revealed that the official account of the incident was distorted and that some of the alleged attacks may not have actually occurred.
I was watching a video on this.
There were some torpedo boats that had engaged Navy.
I'm not sure if they were fighter like PT type boats or if they were like actual destroyers.
The only damage that occurred to the naval ships, the US naval ships, one ship had a singular bullet hole in the side.
The torpedo boats for the Vietnamese forces were obliterated.
Oh, man, that one bullet hole, they should know not to mess with our boats.
As a country, we take that really seriously.
That's what our boats we drop the sun on you. We do take our boats pretty serious.
Yes.
You know, a little bit on the spectrum with that one.
Japan touched a few of our boats and they saw the second sun.
So you are Sheldon.
You just took our spot.
Like we know we don't allow that.
No, thank God they didn't overreact, though.
Yeah.
One bullet hole versus, you know, completely mowing down the enemy's boats.
You know, I mean, what's a little negligent discharge, right?
Right. Yeah.
No, that's fine.
That's assuming, mind you, that's assuming the bullet hole came from them.
Correct.
Because what that been a funny conversation with the captain where they say, oh, they're firing on us.
They completely decimate the enemy boats.
Whether just pulls out their 1911 just put the whole side of the boat, they fired on us, sir.
Oh, I got to fix that. Oh, geez.
But that was the official narrative of that. Oh, yeah.
The U.S. was attacked.
We have to defend ourselves. We have to defend our allies.
And no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
We were never formally attacked.
All B.S.
Just like what happened in Pearl Harbor.
We knew that was going to happen.
We planned it. We knew.
Yeah.
Pearl Harbor was I'm still kind of on the fence about I'm sort of of the opinion that it was just terribly mismanaged and mishandled.
I could tell you exactly what happened.
OK, fire. I 100 percent.
So we knew days before they were attempting that we had several older ships that were planned to be decommissioned anyway.
And in the House and Congress, they were fighting for a budget because, remember, at the end of the year, you have budget resolutions that happen.
That still happened even back in the 30s and 40s.
So they were looking for a budget to be able to replace the ships because they saw what was happening in Europe.
Well, we weren't in the war. We weren't really involved at this time.
We weren't planning to do anything. Well, as soon as they saw that coming, U.S. military leaders said, hey, if we let them attack us, we get our cares out of the way because our cares and our biggest battleships were
removed out of Pearl Harbor just days before, if not maybe the day before or a couple of days before.
So we didn't lose anything that was critical.
All the ships that were sunk were considered non critical to the Navy, which is insane because what that means is they said, screw anybody that dies here.
It's justified to get us into the war.
That way we look like we're on the defense.
We're on the defense. We're attacking because they were polls done and people in the U.S. were asked if they would join the war. Most Americans said no, they did not, especially mind you.
Most of the Americans just went through a war 20 years before with World War One.
And they said, oh, hell no.
Most parents that survived, most of the guys that survived World War One, they don't want their kids in World War Two.
If you want to get a good reaction with the sentiment was like at the time, just attack. Watch the first.
Well, one of the best examples I could see is watch the first 30 to 45 minutes of the movie Hacksaw Ridge, how the father reacts.
Mind you, I have a couple of friends.
You actually know one of the people that have met Desmond Dawes as well.
We could talk about that off air.
But how they described how Desmond Dawes father reacts to his son signing up to go into World War Two after you'd been through World War One clearly shows that most Americans,
it really much parallels the sentiment of most Americans were not for getting into World War Two until we were attacked.
Well, it's just it's just like 9-11.
Mm hmm.
I wonder where we learn that playbook.
Yeah, we did it. And we did in Pearl Harbor.
It said, wow, it'll work.
Go for talking about it.
It'll work.
Not, you know, not 11.
Yeah, 9-11.
Everybody was pissed.
Nine, twelve.
They got real angry.
So it's one of those things where the false flag operations that the U.S. have done have been nothing new.
But they lied about Gulf of Tonkin to get us into the war.
And then after it was found out after the war, I don't know if it was after the war or during the war.
I'm pretty sure it was after the war.
It was after.
But they found out and a lot of people were boo about it.
Mm hmm.
They were pissed.
Yeah.
Great.
I wasn't alive during that era.
So I don't know.
But I watched Walter Cronkite and a few other like of the trusted journalists at the time talk about it.
And boy, people were not happy with that one.
Yeah, no, because that showed that the entire.
You know, all of the involvement that the U.S. had in Vietnam could have been avoided.
All the deaths, all the PTSD, all the suffering.
All the injuries.
All the bullshit.
Could have been avoided.
Yeah.
But, you know, our sweet contractors got to make some money.
Well, we got to make that military money, though.
Yeah.
Lockheed Martin wants their next contract.
Yeah.
The industrial.
The was the military industrial military industrial complex.
Thank you.
Words are hard tonight.
It seems to hurt every night.
We do a podcast for whatever reason.
Yeah.
So we turn on the cameras.
We're like, do you?
So I've never talked before.
Especially from earlier.
Hey, listen, just because I walked in here playing with their nipples doesn't mean anything was weird.
OK, at least that's all you saw.
So the next one I wanted to see.
So the next one.
Let's do let me move this.
Yeah, chronologically chronological.
Because it sounds like Tism.
The infamous Watergate scandal.
From 1972 to 1974.
That's where President Nixon insisted he was not a crook.
The major political scandal involving President Nixon's administration and their attempts to cover up its involvement in a break in at the Democratic National Committee headquarters at the Watergate Hotel.
Later led to President Nixon's resignation.
That whole ordeal.
Showed that even the presidency is not immune to the shenanigans of all that bullshit.
Oh yeah, politics follows even the president.
And unfortunately shady politics follows even the president as well.
Yeah, as we've seen.
Well, yeah.
I'll pardon him anyways.
Oh, we all do.
By the way, I got to put this out in the podcast when it comes to political stuff.
The fact that Biden just gave Hillary Clinton the Presidential Medal of Freedom.
I don't know about you guys, but that to me is insane.
Insulting is what it is.
Yeah, tell the people of Benghazi about that one.
Tell them she deserves that.
But Watergate was one of the first times besides what happened with a couple of previous presidents like what happened with Taft and McKinley.
Besides that, Nixon really was one of the first times to prove that the I guess you could say the BS of the political mob had so much power control that even the president couldn't get away from it.
Yeah, even he got absorbed into it.
And this is one of the first times American history, not only was it so blatant obvious, but everybody completely wanted him out of there.
Everybody support is like, no, this guy's gone.
If you even look at polls from back then, you talk to like 80, 90 percent of people like, yeah, he's out.
He's done. Yeah.
Which I think that's probably the most Americans have ever agreed on anything.
Pretty much.
But I guess that's a how should I say a preview for futures to come? Because after him, it seems like every president's of all of us, some BS.
Everything has kind of gone downhill since he left office.
Could you say he's the political Harambe?
More or less. Yeah.
And I'm sorry, I have to circle back to this. The fact that Biden pardoned a bunch of people who have not done anything yet.
Chaps might take so bad.
I can't even get into it.
They are pardoned without having been accused of a crime.
Are you fucking kidding me?
No. And yet half of them just got the presidential medal of freedom.
Yes. Gibbs.
I understand why there are hate crimes.
That is your personal opinion on this podcast.
That is your opinion personally, and I am not going to be involved with that one for legal reasons.
I think he had to give Hillary the pardon just in case some of her body count started to show up in the Potomac, because my god, man.
I know it arrages me to.
I can feel my pulse.
Oh my god, my blood pressure is going up.
Well, you know what's crazy? I was reading a statistic about that.
Biden has been pardoning.
Well, if it keeps going up, you might be a statistic.
But he's been pardoning hundreds of people and he's still not out yet.
I cannot wait until the 20th to be able to look at the official figures, see how many people he's actually pardoned and see how many happened in like the last 30 days.
Well, the dude also took like what was it?
The 563 vacation days in the four years he was there, an average of 114 days a year, basically he was out to Bernie or like weekend at Bernie's for about a third of every year.
So what a surprise.
Yeah. Well, you know, what you're incapacitated half the time, but those are all sick days.
So my juniors go throw this out there.
I mean, either one of us like support either political party like a totally we both dislike each political party. But come on with what we've seen over the last four years.
Come on, like see what you want. But it's been insane.
It's been insane having a corpse run in the country.
My dog could have done a better job.
You know what? These people would like your dog.
Very true. Although it'd be really weird to have the president licking people's ears, though.
The president already snatched children. So not to fall on that one.
Yeah, I didn't think about that. Yeah.
Yeah, you're wrong.
Oh, just add a little bit of time. We'll start calling them Carly.
Oh, my God.
For those people that don't know his dog decided to violate my ear last time I was over there and it was not consensual. I did. I was not OK with it.
But she's a dog like that. Oh, my God.
The cleanest here, the side of the Mississippi. Let me tell you. Oh, Jesus.
She went deep.
I just I did not appreciate it.
By the way, this one, this one didn't even warn me. He said nothing. You are just as guilty.
Yeah, that's right.
Laugh. Uh huh. Yeah. I hope you can't breathe. You laugh so hard.
Jerk.
Oh, God.
Oh, shit.
Anyways.
All right. Where were we?
So this one that you the next one you posted, I actually know nothing about it.
Yeah. So the Iran Contra affair that took place during 85 and 87.
I was finally alive during this one.
Several high ranking officials during the Reagan administration secretly facilitated the sale of arms to Iran, which was under an arms embargo at the time.
In exchange for the release of American hostages.
The funds from that arms sale were then illegally used to support the Contra rebels in Nicaragua.
This was a shit storm.
Because those arms ended up being used against some of our guys later down the line.
A lot of stuff got sold to Russia, got sold to Syria, got sold to.
God, pick a country in that region. So so wait a minute.
So what I'm hearing is we didn't learn from the Iran Contra affair.
We did learn from Fast and Furious. We didn't learn from selling more weapons to Fast and Furious was kind of blueprinted off of Iran Contra.
They didn't learn. No, they didn't learn. That's how they got got pulled off.
But at both times it's failed. Fast and Furious was intended to fail, though.
They'd still die from those weapons. That's what was the purpose of Fast and Furious.
That's a terrible government. If your goal is to kill American.
We're really good at this.
That you know, American government's never want to kill its own civilians. Jesus.
No, not really.
Well, sorry, sorry. China wins that one.
I'm talking about Western countries. Yeah, but no, but no, you're right. But that's insane. I didn't realize that.
Yeah, no, that was just to try to get guns banned.
That was literally an operation to get firearms of those types banned and taken off the market.
So all those countries that have had illegal firearms where those cartels have been running them, particularly in places like Mexico and Colombia and Panama,
where because we have done this not once, not twice, but like three times now.
You're joking. No, five. But I know of how stupid is our fucking government. I'm sorry.
Did you just say those words in sequence? Yes.
I would have thought at least after like the third time.
They would just not do that.
That's insane.
I.
Hmm. Yeah, no.
Some people really want those scary black rifles banned and removed from the market.
So what's the best way to do that?
Make sure they're used in bad ways, but that's not going to change anything.
People are just going to die for no reason.
That's how you affect change in their minds, their minds.
That's not how it works. No, but in their minds.
These are delusional people Gibbs.
I know. And that's my problem.
These are the people that think if you just have the correct feelings and pronouns about a situation, everything works out.
But you had to go there.
That's like who was it?
Feinstein Feinstein from California.
She she once said, and I quote, well, if somebody comes in to rob your house and you put down your gun, they'll feel sympathetic.
Put down theirs as well. Right. I'm paraphrasing.
Ask him how she did putting down the hammer.
Yeah, no shit.
It boggles my mind.
I guess it's because so and someone that's like on the younger side, we weren't taught this entire list of things that we're talking about.
We were never taught this in high school.
This was stuff that I had learned or done or spoke about afterwards and done some digging.
I wonder how many people would be able to put the dots together, be like, hey, maybe whatever the government tries like give weapons to other countries, particularly like gangs or regimes.
Maybe it just you just shouldn't.
Maybe let's just not hate the firearms within our borders.
Didn't how much was a Biden that gave like 95 billion dollars worth of stuff to Iran when pulled out Iraq.
I forget which one Afghanistan.
One of those. Yeah.
So he essentially ordered the immediate withdrawal and all of the gear was over there.
Some of it was rendered inoperable, but not all of it, not enough of it.
They didn't have time to destroy the ammunition.
They didn't have time to destroy all the small arms.
So, yeah, they they got a lot of our stuff.
The only reason I bring that up is because between like the five other events, plus that plus everything else, the CIA and the FBI have done.
We've we've basically spent enough money to arm other countries like 10 times over.
Yeah, I was a few times over at least.
Yeah. Yeah.
And people wonder where our tax dollars go.
I'm just saying, like, if you guys are OK with the fact that we have armed every cartel in the world, we've armed the Middle East.
We've armed Africa.
We are basically responsible for a lot of that.
Yeah.
You know where our tax dollars go.
They go into the NSA surveillance programs that happen after 9-11.
Yeah. Yeah.
Don't you love those encroaching on our freedoms after that?
Oh, yes.
Give me that encroachment, Daddy.
Encroach on my freedom, Senpai.
Would you encroach on me?
I'd encroach on me.
Maybe you should wear the shirts for the podcast, encroach on me, Daddy.
Yes.
So following the attacks of September 11, the National Security Agency implemented widespread surveillance programs that collected a huge amount of data on Americans' phone calls, emails and Internet activity.
Dear Lord, I hope they didn't see my browser history back then.
These programs were revealed by Edward Snowden in 2013, raising concerns about privacy and civil liberties.
Turns out the government apparently needs a little bit of consent to see what you're doing online.
Thankfully.
And also thank you, Incognito Mode.
Yeah, right.
So the problem is that that all stems from like the Patriot Act and other stuff.
The Patriot Act was initially put out to only follow people that were persons of interest.
However, they started to expand because it's like, oh, well, how do we know if this person's a person of interest if we don't follow them first?
And it just kind of dominoed out from there.
Well, it's also one of those things where they were giving judges just lists of people.
Yeah.
To grab warrants on to spy on.
And they were never researching it.
They were never talking about it.
It was just kind of sign all these and we'll figure it out later.
Right.
And let me let me touch on this real quick before it rabbits out of my head.
The NSA and AT&T work hand in hand to the point where if you have an AT&T device, the NSA is 1000 percent getting all of the data, phone call and text message data that you do.
Because they have servers in each other's buildings.
The NSA has openly, publicly, searchably, verifiably given awards to AT&T for their open willingness and complicit companionship in working with the NSA.
That is Google verifiable.
Pick your job.
I'm switching my phone carrier.
I'm switching.
Yeah.
Unfortunately, actually a lot of really there's only like two different networks.
Most of the nation uses.
So odds are you're either on AT&T or Verizon basically in terms of what the infrastructure.
Unfortunately.
Yeah.
T-Mobile thankfully does not have their servers yeeted out by the NSA yet.
It's only a matter of time.
You know, just when you think you're allowed some level of privacy and then my dumb ass has an AT&T number.
Yeah.
If you if you use text, anything that is like RCS with that little encryption lock, that's fine.
Straight SMS, MMS, not safe.
WhatsApp.
Great, great app to use to text.
It is end to end encrypted.
The NSA claims that it's safe, but I'm pretty sure they can get into it.
But it does offer at least some level of basic protection.
That's my rabbit hole.
I don't like it.
I just what gets me, I think every single time is the fact that you are always presumed guilty.
That your identity and data is never protected.
It used to be innocent until proven guilty.
Many years ago, that mindset switched over to guilty until proven innocent.
Thanks, Obama.
Yeah.
Those programs are expanded a lot under him.
It don't get me wrong.
Bush is also responsible as well for Patriot Act.
But really under Obama, that was where that's where he was.
West Norton.
Yeah.
Cheney's car that the the hidden maestro there, Cheney was the Palpatine to that administration.
We all know.
I never thought about the Palpatine connection before.
But yeah, I could picture him saying do it as he shot somebody with a shotgun.
Well, it was hunting.
You know, that makes sense.
He didn't shoot forthlighting.
He shot for shotgun shells.
Yeah, we're Palpatine.
That's buckshot.
But it is amazing.
So if anybody that's looked into Snowden, I actually back in college did a couple of big reports on Snowden because I really liked the fact that he was a whistleblower and he was coming full of a lot of information.
What is scary is the level of information the NSA was able to collect from people without obtaining any sort of warrant, any sort of permission, consent, none of that.
They were able to get anything as long as it wasn't artificially locked or behind anything.
They are allowed to collect it at any amount at any volume.
So that means things like if your email isn't privately locked, if your Instagram, your Twitter, any social media.
Anything you put out digitally, even stuff that's on your physical devices.
If it's not like locked, they were allowed to have access to it and keep it for records.
So guess what?
Anybody that's posted anything questionable online ever, if you've done anything like that, they're allowed to keep it, which is the insane part that there's no restrictions on what they're allowed to keep or not have.
I feel bad for the agents assigned to me.
Their mental health bills are so high.
Honestly, they probably stop following it because they're just losing.
That's the problem.
They got to pay the agents and the therapists with them and the trauma experts like you would cost the US government like three hundred thousand dollars a year.
Oh, I am to please and shoot for the face.
Oh, God, I just I just want to hear it like like an NSA agent just have to say not another chocolate starfish.
Why? Why?
There's so many.
It's like it's like that like that episode from Ted to our side, the first head.
There's so much porn.
Except with you, but ice cream cones.
Yep.
If it was listening, you'll learn the reference at some point.
We'll get to that.
Oh, yeah, eventually.
So then from there, I wanted to bring about what I would have to say is probably one of the worst, the most egregious.
Yes.
One of the most egregious things the US government has ever done.
Now, there is a bit of a primer here.
Yes, I know this is fresh on people's minds.
We are going to talk about what happened with Covid.
We are going to talk about some details there.
The reason why the reason we will never get any kind of monetization ever.
Well, well, here's the thing.
I have data.
I have links.
I literally have.
You can see in the chat.
I have links to articles and things.
Everything I'm saying is verifiable and proven until I say it is my opinion.
Yes. And I'm being very specific here.
Now, for this first part, I'm just going to say a little bit of my opinion, then we'll go into some of the facts.
So as everyone knows, we just came out of Covid.
It's now twenty twenty five.
It was five years ago.
Let that sink in almost five years ago.
It was March 15th.
Well, it's Covid-19.
So it hit in twenty nineteen.
Right.
Very funny.
But technically in China, they did start seeing it back in October, November, November, December.
My my youngest was sick with all the Covid symptoms, but we did not have official Covid in the US in November of that of twenty nineteen.
That's because the leak happened back in October.
Yeah.
Well, March is what they're saying.
Blood samples are going to march.
They had they had blood samples that were collected and stored all through the year.
They found Covid in blood samples as far back as March of twenty nineteen in the US.
Geez. OK. So that that had been.
But we'll talk about whether it was a leak or a planned thing coming up.
But here's the facts as we know them.
So it was gain of function research that was performed at the Wuhan Coronavirus and Virology Laboratory in Wuhan, China.
Now, in America, I know people know this, but yes, in America, it is illegal to fund gain of function research.
Now, gain of function research basically says, hey, there's a virus that can do this.
Let's give it a function to either add.
It can either become maybe more infectious or has this as a symptom or can move from this to that or it can go from maybe plants to this or that or maybe to an animal to a human to what that is.
It gives it something extra.
If you've ever played the Plague Incorporated.
Yeah, it's it's literally just them playing plague ink with real life viruses.
Yes. And that is illegal in it. Not only is it legal in America, but you cannot use federal funding.
This is the important part. You cannot use federal funding to fund gain of function research.
That's where all the intercepted drug money goes.
Yes, not all some a bit of it.
Anyways, so that money, Tony Fauci was kind of directly responsible for as our head virologist, our head doctor that is paid for by the way, it's paid more than the president is the highest highest position of any federal office besides the president in terms of financial responsibility.
And he's our head medical advisor.
Now he approved and gave the money to a group called Eco Health Alliance that then gave that money to the Wuhan Coronavirus Virology Lab.
So therefore they were able to say, well, no, no, we weren't funding it.
No, he lied on on live TV.
He lied several times. It was funded by the US.
Now, did they take other money as well as from the US?
Yes, but we funded that right now.
The one of the problems we have here is that for years, all of all of us were told no, no, no, it was not an engineered virus.
It is no, no, no, it got out naturally.
It was already out there. No, it wasn't.
This was a human engineered thing and it got out.
Now, I'm not going to speculate whether it was planned to get out or whether it was an accident.
I'm assuming it was an accident, but who knows at this point.
Why? Well, it's very interesting that Anthony Fauci, Tony Fauci also who has a high, very high stake in companies like Moderna, Johnson and Johnson and Pfizer.
They already had a vaccine they were developing for the coronavirus.
That is why Trump put in Operation Warp Speed, and that's why that was approved.
And that got moved forward to where then we then had a vaccine.
But what's weird is I know what we're going to get to that in a second.
I'm going to cover it factually before we get to that stuff.
So that this new vaccine, two of the three brands, we're using an mRNA based vaccine.
The idea was to be able to change your genetically or to alter genes so that you can more effectively fight the virus.
Now, traditionally, viruses, the traditionally vaccines are basically more like immunotherapy with the ideas we give you a small amount of the virus.
Your immune system recognizes it, learns how to fight it, and then they could deal with it more effectively.
There's obviously no vaccine that makes you immune, but it just helps to mitigate the symptoms that help you treat it.
This was something new to where it was going to alter you at a much deeper level.
Therefore, you could just fight it more naturally.
But that also means altering you almost like a chemical way rather rather than letting your body do it naturally and learn its chemical gene therapy.
Yes.
So here is the problem.
The U.S. government, mind you, this is Joe Biden, everyone else, they all said you should take the vaccine and it's safe to do so.
It's safe and effective.
Here is my problem.
And this is one of the things we really want to highlight here.
The government told you this is safe and effective to take it.
However, unfortunately, the data shows maybe not so much.
Not for everybody.
This is the biggest problem and anybody in medicine that tells you this, they are wrong and I am sorry.
I know I'm not a medical doctor.
I'm not a medical license.
This is not medical advice.
My personal opinion, if any medical professional ever tells you that, oh, yeah, the same thing works for everybody all the time, 100 percent, they're wrong.
They are wrong every single time.
Why?
Because this data alone, not to mention with everything else, shows that you have to treat people as individuals and not everything is best for everybody in all cases.
We had used, unfortunately, we had forced people under threat of losing their jobs, under threat of losing some cases, their careers to take these vaccines.
Now, for the people that chose, I know many people that chose.
I know many people that were forced to.
I know many people that didn't.
I have no qualms whether you did or didn't.
I'm not pro, I'm not against, whatever.
You do what's best for you under your medical advice for your doctor.
I will always say no matter what.
But the issue we have is according to theirs, mind you, this is according to the WHO website or the UN website that I'm both pulling from as well as the theirs, the vaccine adverse event reporting system.
Myocarditis is more likely to occur after any of the dosage.
And the number of myocarditis reports, myocarditis, meaning basically heart palpitations, fluctuations, heart issues, cardiovascular issues.
The vaccination base, we gave it a 200, sorry, 2230 times higher than the average for all vaccines with myocarditis being an effect.
That is insane.
And that is something that people were told.
This is safe.
This is effective.
It won't hurt you.
Individuals under 30 years old or more likely to develop myocarditis, myocarditis than those over 30.
Fifty percent of the cases occurred in youths.
Seventy percent occurred in males, so the lot of young men that were really affected by this.
Seventy six percent of cases required emergency care and hospitalization.
And three percent of the time it resulted in death so far.
Yeah. And people have been pointing out we've seen a lot of young athletes, healthy athletes, athletes dropping dead because of heart issues over the past four years.
This is something that affected my family because we have a very close family friend. Her fiance, they're going to get married soon at when this happened.
He took it, mind you, against what his doctor had said because he had heart issues.
He died three days later just out of nowhere.
He took it, went home, wasn't feeling good, having heart palpitations, went to the hospital, died, done.
And I'm not saying that was 100 percent the vaccine.
Not at all.
What I'm saying is when people have layers and layers of other health issues that might be known or unknown, when you're adding in another variable like that, that gets really risky.
It gets really tricky. It gets hard to understand.
And the problem is if you do not understand and study this stuff and just tell everybody it's safe when it's not, it causes issues.
Look at the Tuskegee experiment.
Look at any other times that the U.S. government has experimented on people.
And mind you, everything we've talked about tonight is confirmed.
This is why we want to bring up this episode of really, really, really understand the government does lie to you all the time.
And this is just the stuff that we can talk about.
Like, for example, for COVID, according to the WHO, well over seven million people have died directly from it.
But actually the UN reports almost 15 million.
All because a couple of people and a few scientists wanted to study gain of function research because they didn't have limits.
They did not do it safely because they did it safely.
It wouldn't have got out.
They did it in the middle of a city of what, five or 10 million people?
Are you are you stupid?
Are you kidding me?
No, these are the kind of problems that happen when you let government run these kind of things.
Right.
Especially not for nothing.
They're letting the Chinese government run that.
Right.
Now, one of and probably my favorite tinfoil hat explanation on the whole cause of COVID, it was intended to attack the elderly because of the aging population in China, the overcrowding in their health care facilities.
Totally justifiably able to make that connection in my head.
I can totally see them engineering the virus to only get people that were already compromised to a point because it was largely a respiratory type virus.
Absolutely.
And taking out the people that required that type of care because I mean, what's their population now?
Almost two billion.
We just hit eight billion people on the earth the other day.
Congratulations, India.
Yeah, I know.
They're putting in some work.
But yeah, when you've got overcrowding and shit going on like that, you've got a certain number of people that are already, you know, health compromised.
I can understand and see something like that happening.
Does that justify it?
Fuck. No, it doesn't.
But I can see them kind of leading that way because it's China.
Oh, yeah.
The citizens have no rights there.
They're not exactly known for human rights support.
I mean, the videos of them welding people into the buildings during lockdown.
Holy shit.
Well, that's what I was going to bring up is they were not only welding people, but there were videos of aid workers just picking up dead bodies off the streets.
People were jumping off of balconies and off of rooftops because their doors were welded shut or for shut or they have police standing around with rifles.
Basically said, hey, if you go outside, you will be shot under the China lockdowns were what they were insane.
The few videos that did get out.
Oh, and the problem is, we'll never know to the true extent of what happened in China.
Oh, they all been covered up. What is insane is I saw somebody do a breakdown of one of the crematoriums that were outside of Wuhan.
They calculated that it was well in excess of a few hundred thousand people that died just in Wuhan because the amount of bodies they could fit per hour than how long they were running for.
And that was just in mind you in the first six months of the year.
Well, when Covid was around.
So and also I will admit because I kind of peruse the Internet a lot. I saw stuff back in December, January about China before Covid official was announced in the US about things being weird there.
So we'll never know. That's the that's the suburbs will never know the true extent of human rights violations there.
We will never understand exactly what happened, but we know what happened here.
And we know what the US government said. Right.
Well, we've also got cases like in New York where they're hoarding old people into those facilities.
So it was an elderly facility.
And they decided that the best thing to do was to put Covid patients in there because they needed beds and places to put them.
That over seventy thousand elderly people died in New York State because that happened and nobody got arrested.
Nobody got tried. They said, oh, yeah, that's the best thing we could do.
They had a ship. What was it like the Liberty ship or you at Liberty or something?
I forgot the name of it. That was from the military.
The hospital ship. Yeah. But they were going to use for overflow.
They never use it. Yeah. Instead, they just stuffed them all with the elderly.
Again, maybe I'm maybe I take this a little more personally because I've always taken care of my family.
But like the amount of elderly care centers, even locally to where I'm at,
that were negatively affected by them putting in Covid patients, even younger people that were relatively healthy.
And the amount of elderly people that died because of that, because of the lack of care,
not to mention if you even want to talk about the fact that they use they said ventilators was the appropriate fix for that, which I know is not the case.
You already have people with elderly lungs that are barely able to get oxygen.
Instead of putting on oxygen mask, you put on a ventilator that then forces and stresses the lungs and then they die from a lung collapse.
And you wonder why. No. Duh. But anyways, I digress.
That that's all my opinion in there. But I think we can use logic to determine that that would clearly was not the best case of action.
Clearly, the U.S. government, whether knowingly or unknowingly, whether people want to admit it or not, they had lied about the situation with Covid.
They had lied about why it existed. They had lied about where it came from, how it got to the U.S. and how it was going to affect people.
And unfortunately, all of this was due to what? To be able to get and give money to these companies that, mind you, we all pay for it as U.S. citizens.
We paid for the entire development, production and distribution of the vaccines and the eventually.
Yeah. And the treatment. We didn't see a dime back, by the way.
We do not own the rights to those. We know nothing. Moderna, Johnson Johnson and Pfizer, they still own the entire rights to those, even though they we paid for them, which is the other problem here.
I'm still waiting for my rebate check from the bailout. I know the big bank bailout. Right. Good luck on that one.
It's. It just I guess it baffles my mind that people will trust the government when the U.S. government, mind you, with other governments, is the reason why the pandemic happened in the first place.
One hundred percent. And the sad part is if they had just been more responsible, never would have happened in the first place.
They are studying of viruses and gain a function in the middle of major cities. If you even look at if you want to get freaked out, look at virology centers across the world.
You'll see dozens. They're always in major cities. Why? Because it's convenient. Yeah.
That that's the only reason because they want to cut costs rather than say, hey, maybe you should study this out in the middle of nowhere, out in the middle of a desert, middle of Antarctica or the North Pole, somewhere.
If something happens, you can't harm other people. No, no, we'd rather just because we're doctors, because we're academics. We just want to step off a plane and arrive where we need to be right in the middle of a big city in front of everybody.
This is the kind of shit you do in Area 51. Yeah. Or just don't do it all.
Like not not to be a jerk, but sure. Yes. Maybe doing that, that research could help create a vaccine.
But here's the other thing. You wouldn't need the vaccine if you didn't create the virus. It's the chicken before the egg problem. Okay.
Devil's advocate time. If we don't do it, somebody else will. And then they'll have all the cards.
Okay, fair enough. But then do it in a facility where at least if something goes wrong, it's only those people doing it. Right.
The biggest thing I feel bad for is imagine if you're just like an average Chinese citizen that barely has any rights, barely has anything just scraping by and you happen to live in Wuhan.
And then your world gets turned upside down because some schmuck in America wants to make a ton of money. Yeah.
Are you kidding me? No.
That's the part that gets me is at the end of the day, the government defended itself.
Tony Fauci lied. The I think how I say that Davic, Dazic or Davic for Eco Health Alliance lied and so many other politicians covered for them.
At the end of the day, the people that are most affected were you and I. Yeah.
The average everyday people because the world's never been the same since COVID. Oh, no. It's changed everything.
We have a whole episode lined up on that entire topic, in fact.
But no one has been held accountable. No one has gone to jail.
Because the rich and powerful don't go to jail.
And if someone who is rich and powerful does go to jail, they definitely don't kill themselves while they're in jail.
No, no, not at all. No, no, no.
The fact that, you know, a rich and powerful guy happened to magically kill himself while he was on suicide watch back.
He just took a really hard nap. Yeah. Yeah.
He just that happened back in 2019. You realize that?
That's insane that the Epstein thing happened that we went straight into COVID and just kind of. Yeah.
Yeah. Supposedly COVID could have been a cover for the Epstein shit.
There is that conspiracy. Imagine, imagine justifying sacrificing almost 15 million people to cover up the fact that you were diddling kids. Right.
How many people were diddling kids on his island? How many? Yeah.
Well, we don't know because we still don't have his client list yet.
Because the government's too afraid to release it. Uh huh.
I hope Trump or daddy musk lets it out.
Well, didn't the judge even say that they were they were scared of public outlash backlash and outcry if they did release it.
Yeah. Which is more the reason to release it.
And now, unfortunately, because of Luigi, they'll never release it. Right.
As much as I again, we covered this in the last podcast. I don't approve, but I understand.
Just disclaimer there. Because of Luigi, they're definitely not going to release it now. Probably not.
It's it's crazy what an Italian plumber can do.
Yeah. And now him and and did you're in the same jail?
Yeah, I don't understand that. I mean, did he can just slip out of the bars with how much baby oil he's got in his system.
So. Yeah, there's going to be a ski oil.
There had to be drugs or something in it. There's no way it was just baby oil.
Well, hey, when you're dealing that many kids.
Well, no, but like how much they think about this, right? If you're getting like, like how many bottles was it was a lot?
It was. Let's just let's just round off and say 100 bottles.
I'm a little a lot. OK, let's let's say it's a one with a bunch of zeros.
So if you're getting that many, if you have that many at the house, that means how many are going through per month? Do you get like a shipment? Do you buy crates?
And if so, that's does he hire somebody just to inventory on the fucking bottles?
Side note, I just had a mental image. Can you imagine a baby or a swimming pool full of baby oil?
When you're drowning that, I don't know. I don't understand the physics of that well enough.
That's that that is a kink. I am not prepared for this man swimming suit.
No, maybe this man got his first erection around baby oil or something.
Maybe just something happened where it gets linked now, you know, psychologically, like, you know, those people that develop kinks because that's like their quote unquote sexual awakening.
And they're suddenly with that for the rest of their lives. Oh, yeah.
I've heard something happen with him and baby oil, baby oil and feet. I don't know.
Not feet. No, feet. People are so weird.
Isn't there like like that study, though, that basically shows like the same area of the brain?
Yes, it's just a crossing of wires in the brain.
That's weird. Yeah.
I'll like if you're a feet person, good for yourself, but keep it to yourself. Right. I don't want to be involved. No. Special involves baby oil to
be covered in baby oil.
Oh, no, no, no.
Oh, no. Oh.
But between between all these things with the government and we're not even getting into things like the recent drone problems.
Oh, yeah. Getting seriously into the food, like getting to all these other things.
It goes to show that you really, really, really need to be careful. Yeah. With anything.
I genuinely mean this. Anything.
Any official government mainstream media, anybody from the military, CIA, FBI, any of them, because we're not even getting into more of the conspiracy theory stuff like how the CIA and the FBI have people at January 6th.
Yeah. It is a ton of other stuff, especially what's happening now with the cyber truck thing with the bombing there.
What happened down in New Orleans? And it's getting a little crazy.
Yeah. Yeah. A lot of that even could be tied into the whole.
They're trying to keep Biden in office and keep Trump out of office by instigating a national emergency type of event.
Yeah, but no one's going to buy that.
Well, they won't until they do.
I mean, what are they just going to try to institute martial law? More or less.
That's the suggestion.
That's the only way it happens.
But I don't think they'll get away with that. I think a lot of us are just so done with it.
Probably just not would not put up with it.
No way. Yeah.
I, you know, I'm going to limit my comments to say I would not put up with it. Yeah.
That is for legal reasons. That is all I will say. Yeah.
But let me let me just briefly touch on some of the other stuff that we were hoping to kind of go on.
Otherwise, this will turn into a two hour episode.
We have various levels of involvement in foreign government operations.
The fact that we have overthrown democratically elected officials in other governments.
We essentially allowed Saddam Hussein to come into power.
Like we made that happen and then 20 years later we had to go in and kick his ass out.
The the Assad regime.
I'm pretty sure we helped pave the way for that.
Yes, we did. There's another one. I can't remember if it was a Gaddafi or if it was a Moammar Gaddafi.
Yeah. Or if it was the Ayatollah.
One of those two Moammar Gaddafi. We actually. OK.
I do was one of those. He was a CIA like CIA involvement. Yeah.
Not like an operative like train, but like he was involved. Yeah.
That's why he took over. Then we saw he went friggin bananas. Yeah.
But Nene. The mandating with them was on ISIS or something like that.
They started from the remnants of Al Qaeda. Yeah.
And we also funded them as well because we were to use them to try to overthrow Al Qaeda. Yeah.
Yeah. Good times.
The mandating of experimental medicine during a global pandemic.
We have already kind of talked about that.
The fact that that pandemic brought out the vaccine so rapidly, it was still experimental.
It was not a true vaccine. It was a therapeutic.
So when they immunotherapy, there's difference. Yeah.
When they kept calling it a vaccine that pissed me off, a vaccine is supposed to prevent the disease or the sickness or the illness.
Everybody still got sick. They're like, oh, yeah, I just got my vaccine three, three months ago and I still got sick.
No, that's not how a vaccine works.
The measles, the mumps, polio, all that shit. We're vaccinated against that.
How often do you see people get that shit nowadays? You don't.
That's a vaccine. The covid therapeutic maybe helped relieve the symptoms and made them not so bad.
OK, cool. I'm still not taking that shit.
I don't blame you. But mandating experimental preventative measures like face masks.
There was data showing the covid virus was small enough to get through the openings in the face masks,
unless it was the N95 face mask, which even though people were wearing those, they were wearing them improperly.
You cannot have facial hair if you're wearing an N95 mask.
I had a goatee during that time. I didn't have the full beard.
I barely ever wore a face mask because I knew the science.
So I'm not going to shave my face just to put on a stupid mask that's barely going to do anything for the time I'm going to wear it.
So the experimental measures like the face masks to prevent the spread of the virus when their own internal information showed
they were only marginally effective at best.
And all of that came to light. And who has been punished? Absolutely nobody.
As Giz was saying, we have the recent events with the drones and the lack of available information from the government and other people who have been tasked
with keeping the airspace above our country safe, keep swaying public opinion away from any kind of trust in those same agencies.
If we have something in our skies, OK, fine. Tell us. Tell us what it is or at least tell us what it isn't.
If they're ours, for fuck's sake, say so. If they're not ours, tell us what's going to be done about them.
I think we as a citizen are owed that much.
Well, of course, knowing that, but as a citizen, you own the right to the airspace around and above your house, above your property.
Yeah. And if somebody was operating a drone over my airspace, I have the means to take it down.
Yeah. You had a lot of other people because citizens began taking some measures into their own hands with firearms, some with fireworks to remove some of those drones from the airspace above their homes and neighborhoods.
Those situations could have escalated to be a lot worse because some people forget the physics of what goes up must come down.
So, yeah, and not only that, the people forget that this is a big country.
There's a lot of space. There's a lot of areas to where if you fly these drones, some people have zero qualms loading up their rifles and taking it the hell down and to hell with wherever those bullets land.
You're absolutely right. Not only that, but do they know the amount of fear and panic they're causing in people, the amount of worry that's causing people.
I've watched videos of people crashing their cars on the highway because they see one of the drones they're trying to film it while they're driving. They hit a pole.
To be fair, that is the idiocy level of the drivers.
Yes. But if all they had to do is make a simple announcement being like, hey, we're just doing military exercises.
We can't be more deliberate, but this is to protect against terrorism or China or other stuff or whatever.
Cool. It alleviate a lot of issues. But the reality of it is all we see is skepticism online and all we can do is guess.
And that's the sad part. I do want to do a separate episode on the drones because I found a lot of other information that you have to.
And we have a lot we want to debate on that. But it is incredible that we can have drones violate several, if not all of our locked airspace.
And it's OK if they do it. Yeah, there are airports that have had to reroute flights someplace to shut down.
They've had them violating violating military air spaces. And yet nothing's being done. Nothing said. Nothing's questioned. Yeah.
It's so. Yeah. Honestly, I feel like that drone issue shows how vulnerable the skies over our country really are.
Be it from a foreign threat, be it from an actual non planetary threat.
I mean, just just imagine if those drones weren't friendly. Imagine if those drones were armed.
Imagine if they were trying to do harm. See, unfortunately, we're not a country like Israel that has the Iron Dome where anywhere in their country, if you fly over it, you're already targeted and locked and they can take you the hell down.
Yeah. Whereas we are so big. This country is huge. There's so many areas of vast wilderness with nothing out there that it's damn near impossible to have eyes on everything and have defenses prepared.
And unfortunately, we've have so many military assets that are non domestic. That is something would happen domestically. Do we have resources? Yes.
But not nearly what we have across the rest of the planet, which is in a lot of ways sad.
No, I mean, just think, I mean, have you seen like the drone swarms that China uses just for like drone shows? Yeah.
Watch one that had like several thousand. Yeah. Imagine one of those over a major US city armed with like a kilogram of C4.
Oh, yeah.
You really wouldn't need a whole lot more than that. Put it this way, you could take out all the bridges coming in and out of New York City within a matter of minutes. Yeah. And then walked. Manhattan's done.
It's like that. That episode of that Batman movie. Oh, yeah. Walk it down. It goes crazy. Yeah. Bane one third one. Yes.
They could do that in a matter of minutes. Oh, yeah. And unfortunately, what's happening over in Ukraine as we're seeing drones are being utilized quite effectively. Yeah.
And even have like paper drones that cost some like pennies on the dollar or 3D printed. Yeah.
They're scary effective. They are becoming pound for pound, dollar for dollar.
One of the most effective military, I guess, technologies we've had in the last hundred years. Yeah. It's insane. They're removing 10 million dollar assets with like a $50 drone and $200 worth of explosives.
That's incredible value. Yeah. If there was a stock, if there was a stock for Ukrainian drones, I would invest in that shit hardcore. Oh, yeah. I'd make so much money. Are you kidding me?
Yeah. I mean, not only the drones, but our own food is killing us or air venom poisoning us. Yeah. The sheer amount of industrial chemicals and toxins that are in our food and that continue to be allowed in.
Holy shit. RFK, please come save us. I'm I was kind of on the fence about him because, you know, brain worm. But honestly, I'm kind of excited to see him get into position and see what he does.
Because all the shit that's in our food, it's atrocious.
People wonder why so much of our food is banned in other countries. It's killing us.
Yeah, there are literal industrial cleaning agents in our food. Titanium dioxide is probably one of my favorite ones to think about.
It's it's the white color in like pop tarts.
That's like an industrial degreaser.
Oh, there's some great ones out there that should never be in our food. Right. And the sad part is when you look at I think a lot of people misunderstand it, but there's a lot of seed oils, soybean oil, stuff like that, that are completely unnecessary.
A lot of our products is a lot of extra fattening, extra calories, extra sugar, but also the red dyes and other chemicals that are known in other countries to be carcinogenic or even possibly have links to causing other child diseases.
Those are all banned in other countries. Yeah. If anybody wants to have to have the experiment, look up. My favorite one is Quaker's oatmeal.
They sell it in both in Germany and England, and they sell it in America.
Look at the ingredient difference between two. The American one has like 40 something.
The European one has like 11.
And of those 11, there's like six of them that are actual ingredients.
How are these companies able to justify putting in more stuff, charging us more when they sell the same thing over in Europe and it's cheaper and has fewer stuff in it?
What is the game plan there? How is it more profitable? How? No, we should not allow that. Absolutely not.
I mean, as far as food is concerned, our favorite food pyramid. That was a lie. And yes, as a propaganda machine by the Department of Agriculture after the FDA was warned that it would cause an epidemic of obesity.
Gee, guess what happened?
You know, you know why that food pyramid was put in, right? To help prop up farms. Yes.
The idea was that after World War II, the American farmers, they were concerned they weren't going to be able to survive and afford.
So they said, well, we'll just have people tell people to eat bread three times a day and then we'll make the bread full of crap.
And oh, yeah, then all the big companies will buy up the farmland so then they can make it even cheaper that Americans could just have more bread.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yes. Make me make me like one of the least eating options. Does that make sense? Right now.
Something that's been a staple of our diet for 150,000 years. Oh, yeah. Suddenly is bad for us.
Well, that's why in America, I feel like a lot of people are upon Americans for being unhealthy when people aren't in the country that don't understand.
There are many places where it's hard to eat healthy or sometimes it's almost unaffordable to eat healthy because of this.
OK. A pre-made salad or pre-made fruit cup is like eight dollars at the store, but I can get a double cheeseburger for like 250.
OK, that's one of the problems.
If you tell me that that double cheeseburger is so unhealthy for me, why can I buy three of them for the same price as a salad that leaves?
Yeah, why are leaves eight dollars?
Ideally, the salad should be cheaper.
It should be almost free.
Well, almost free. It's well, the I guess the point is, if you look at the way food is made and grown because of how America is, unfortunately, the healthy foods are becoming almost a luxury item, especially getting things without added sugar, added preservatives in order to like.
So so my girlfriend, we've been trying to actually like cook more.
We've been going so far as to like we buy just potatoes and we make our own french fries.
We make our own potato chips.
We're doing a lot of things because I want to lose weight and get better shape.
And she's been killing it and losing a lot of weight and like getting in shape.
And she's been incredible.
And what we're noticing is by like we have to make the steps to make everything ourselves.
It's so much more time consuming.
But holy crap.
Big difference is it's incredible.
I can eat three times the amount of potatoes and still have half the calories because we just air fry it.
And I don't add sugars.
I don't add any extra crap.
Nothing. It's if you eat actual just the regular food, I know it's miraculous, but it's somehow better for you without the chemicals.
But getting it in places without chemicals, like you can't just buy pre-packaged, pre-sliced like french fries.
You can't. They always have added sugars and chemicals and other crap.
I have looked. I have tried because I'll be honest, I'm a lazy American.
I don't want to sit there and actually have to make the french fries myself.
If I pay the extra buck and have them made for me.
Cool. Now, they always add the chemicals and sugar every time, every time without fail.
And the reason why I get pissed off about this is because I spent like four hours looking.
I have been to every grocery store I can in the area.
We spent like six hours the other day because we had some shopping to do anyway.
So it's not like I spent six hours just looking for french fries.
But I couldn't find any.
So we decided to make them.
So I have to buy a special thing to make the french fries and do them.
But guess what? That's the level I have to resort to in this country to just get french fries.
That's it. That's insane.
I'm going to start calling you Julia Childs now.
Oh, I feel like with the way I look, I feel like what's what's that lady that suddenly just puts butter on everything?
Paula Dean. Yeah, I feel like Paula Dean is my spirit.
And I really feel like because I am not a small lad.
So I'm husky, but I'm a big guy.
You know, I like the food. Yeah, boy.
But I guess that is like my personal vendetta.
We always laugh about the french fry problem because the matter where you go.
Yeah, no, anything clean.
You cannot get anything frozen, pre-made without being pre-laced with all sorts of shit.
The only place I found that is considered fast food or quick food that gives you something that's clean protein is chick filet has a grilled like chicken nugget.
You get it grilled with the chicken nuggets. It's literally just the chicken on the grill.
They don't add anything else.
And the macros on it and protein is great.
So but now, mind you, that is out of every single fast food chain in America.
We are the Olympics of fast food chain. Oh, yeah. We take this shit seriously.
Right. Out of every one of them.
I've been told Chipotle is not horrible.
Yeah. If you stay away from like their pre mix things.
But like the rice isn't all that bad. The the black beans, the cheese, the queso or whatever the meat.
I mean, meat is meat.
It's well, you say that.
Well, OK. Yeah. 3D printed meat lab grown meat. That's all a thing now.
I know. Well, not only that, but they're also doing the cockroach meat and stuff like that.
Oh, God. Yeah. That's that's becoming a thing, by the way.
We're going to doing a food episode at some point.
I'm only really I'm all versed in the food stuff just because my girlfriend and I are in to look at the stuff.
But yeah, yeah, that's going to be a thing coming very soon as they're going to start using processed insect meat and selling it as like the non animal or non beef alternative kind of thing.
And, you know, a lot of people, a lot of people just kind of keep saying, oh, yeah, why don't we switch to insects that make so much more sense to grow?
Why is that so much easier? No, I'm not eating bugs.
No, I will not eat the bugs. No.
No, I think I would probably eat a person before I eat bugs.
You know, the look on your face.
I didn't want to have this moral dilemma.
A person or bugs. Tell me.
But I don't. OK.
I can't argue if you're listening to this.
A person or bugs.
If it came down to it.
What are you eating?
Depends on the person.
Well, I you know, I think I will say, I know there's been I know it's a little bit of a segue tonight.
But the night of segues, you should get sponsored by them.
But we I use a segue to the segue.
Those are cheap now, by the way.
You get them like five hundred bucks. Oh, yeah.
I thought about getting one, but then I realized I have no point getting one.
So I did. But I really wanted to just to have one.
Well, maybe one day. Maybe that's what we'll do if the podcast goes really well, we go so well, we will have our matching segues.
Oh, yes. That will be the segue to our segues. But anyways.
So I know in America, we've had the issue where there's large parts of especially the Midwest, where I know since you you've kind of been through the Midwest a little bit, you've done some traveling like I have.
Do you remember years ago when you said drive through out there and you have bugs all over your vehicle?
Oh, yeah. Now, now when you drive through, it's almost nothing.
There's large parts of the country where they see 50, 60, even 70 percent reductions in the overall bug population.
Yeah. And we have a thing and we have an overcrowding of people.
So I hate to use logic to answer that question, but meets back on the menu, boys.
I'll tell you, that's I think that that's that's one for people and zero for the bugs.
If anything, we should grow. We should grow the bugs just to release them back in the wild.
Right. Anything.
I mean, yes, go back. Does it bother you to know that I keep the the human select cut menu on my phone for an emergency?
I'm getting a hotel next time I visit you.
I'm not spending the night because I understand I have a good fat to meat ratio where I might be tasting.
I like that. I'm guessing you're probably well marbled, you know.
Well, marble.
That's a nice way of saying I'm fat. It's what you literally have that check your phone.
I just said to you, I'll put it up in the discord after the episode is posted so that, you know, people can see that.
I keep that on my phone just in case of an emergency.
By the way, speaking of discord, all of our socials are now up and live.
We have the discord. We have the the YouTube's.
We have the Instagram.
The Facebook page is now live and the the Tiki talk.
Yes.
So feel free to reach us. Reach out to us at any one of those. I will say probably the one that we look at the most would be discord.
This course Facebook will be the two that are probably looked at the most.
Yeah. And if you reach out on Tick Tock, that'll be more on me just because I use Tick Tock because I'm a degenerate.
So we can get back to you guys.
But definitely, definitely. I really recommend people join the discord if you have that.
Absolutely. It's going to be a good time there.
We have a lot of stuff down down the pipeline for all of our socials and discord and everything.
Can't wait for that.
But yeah, I think I think at this point, we probably talked about everything tonight that we wanted to for the kind of the overall topic of why you cannot trust the government and that the government's always lying to you.
Also, you know, something that we didn't touch on.
You remember the Waco incident?
I. So there's a special episode I want to do on the ATF.
OK, yeah. And the agency that should exist.
I feel very strongly about them and I don't want to say anything illegal.
So free speech for now.
For now.
I will say definitely we will be talking about the crimes of the ATF at some point.
And however, I want to for legal reasons wait till after January 20th.
OK, yeah.
So that that's why that's my two cents on that.
But yeah, a lot of things like the VEC Rama Swami did say in an interview that many agencies will be reduced and possibly eliminated.
Once they're in office.
God, I hope it's ATF.
I'm hoping that the ATF is on the chopping block.
Good, because they're useless.
They cannot just legislate policy.
All they do is shoot people's dogs.
That's all they do.
Jimmy, the ATF shot my fucking llama.
He's at the car pretty well.
That was pretty good.
I didn't expect that.
But yeah, I think today we've covered pretty well all the topics we wanted to.
And just everyone at home knows this was kind of the the one that we want to talk about with things that we could verifiably 100 percent prove a talk.
There will be a tinfoil, probably several tinfoil hats later down the road where we want to use this as kind of a reference point.
And then from here is where we start branching off into some of the more interesting conspiracies, interesting things, things that are a little bit less.
Obviously, they're based in fact, but we're going to be making some assumptions and some leaps and possibly some debates on that, because tonight we're both kind of an agreement on a lot of stuff.
Whereas in the future, I know we got a couple of good debates coming up with some of the topics that I'm really excited for better than presidential debates.
Dude, I'm so sick.
I don't want to go on a rant about it because we've already been here forever.
But like, I'm just so sick of our intellectual idiots that are around the country.
Oh, yes. So done with it.
So done with it. Oh, yeah.
All right. Just want to say that we close this out. Thank you everybody for listening. We really, really appreciate it.
We've gotten a lot of great feedback and support over the last few episodes and really looking forward to doing more going forward.
We definitely would really recommend people to join us on social media, Discord, everywhere else.
Reach out to us, give us topics, give us ideas.
And we have a lot more stuff come down the pipeline.
Anything you'd like to add there, Pip? Just keep the feedback coming.
Keep the ideas coming. Love talking to everybody.
We're here doing this because we'd like to do it.
But the more interaction we get with people, the more we're going to be driven to do more and do better.
So keep coming, guys.
Absolutely. Thank you, Pip. Appreciate it. Thank you all for sticking around and we will catch you on the next one.
Hell yeah. Have a good one, guys.