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There is a crisis going on in America currently,

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a crisis that affects millions of people and

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one that real estate agents might play a role

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in solving or mediating, but you're not going

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to hear it from your normal real estate agent

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at all. And this crisis that I'm talking about

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has nothing to do with the Middle East or debt

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spiral or anything. It has to do with retirement

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and how people don't have anything saved for

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retirement. And this is a big, big problem as

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more and more boomers reach retirement age. Gen

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X is up next for retirement. And the average

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retirement savings is like $100 ,000. And that

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is pretty good. And most people don't have two

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nickels to rub together in retirement other than

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the equity in their home. And so there are tons

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of people sitting on a lot of equity. And it's

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really become the default retirement savings

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plan for... Americans because they don't have

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anything else saved. And we can talk about the

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reasons for that. They're complicated. There's

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a myriad of reasons. But the fact is people are

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relying for the sale of their home a lot of times

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to provide for them in retirement. And so where

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does that leave us as real estate agents serving

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a population of people that are in this position

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where all their equity is trapped? And it's not

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just people looking to retire. It's a lot of

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people's wealth is in real estate. It's in the

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equity in their homes. And so what I'm going

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to speak about today. with this retirement crisis

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is for people that own their homes outright and

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what they can do to secure monthly income in

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uncertain times. And what we don't often talk

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about, especially as real estate agents, because

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most real estate agents have no idea about how

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to do this or anything about it, is that when

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you own your home outright, like many people

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do, especially people getting ready to retire,

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they might have lived there for quite a long

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time, have tons of equity. and are looking to

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downsize or looking to fund their retirement

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lifestyle in some ways. And so what they typically

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do and what real estate agents tell them to do

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is to put their home on the market and sell it

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and cash out and collect their equity and go

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about their business. And that's sort of their

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retirement income. But here's where it gets a

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little more complicated because there's other

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ways to access that equity that. can be more

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beneficial, potentially more beneficial to a

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seller and provide them with more specific, consistent

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income. And I'm talking about seller financing.

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So I'm talking about you being the bank, you

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selling your home, but instead of just selling

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it back to the bank who's going to sell it to

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someone else, you are going to hold the note.

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You are going to collect payments with interest.

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You are going to be able to work out the terms

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you want. And then you are going to be able to

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collect a consistent monthly income from that.

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And no, you're not renting the place. You are

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collecting a mortgage payment. Now, for any realtor

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out there, when somebody comes to you, if you're

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a good realtor, my first question is going to

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be like, why are you selling? I don't think you

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should ever sell if you don't have to. Because

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what happens is, you know, people typically they

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pay, they play that sort of middle class trap

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where they build equity and then they pour all

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that equity back into a place where they got

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to spend a monthly. They upgrade their home and

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then they've lost all that equity. And now they

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are doing the same rat race again. They have

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the same giant payment and then they're just

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stuck. So all their equity is trapped again.

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But for people that own their own home, they

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have a lot of options because once you own your

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own home, you can kind of do what you want with

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it. You can sell it for magic beans. You can

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trade it for a Ferrari. You can do whatever you

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want with it once you own it. It's yours. And

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your average typical real estate. agent, buying

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and selling. And people too, owners of homes,

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buyers of homes, they only know one way to buy

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or sell a home and that's to get a buyer with

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an approval, pre -approval letter from a mortgage

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company, the bank, the bank, the bank does everything.

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And I think it's going to be a lot more empowering

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for some people in certain circumstances, especially

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if they own their home. I'm not talking about

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if you still have a mortgage and wraparounds

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and lease options and other ways to do owner

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financing. I'm just talking about... about straight

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seller financing where you own your home, and

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then you're going to sell it to somebody directly

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and collect those payments with interest, you

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are going to be the bank. That's what I'm talking

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about. Because let's say I'm looking to retire,

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and of course, to access that equity, I believe

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I need to just sell it back to the bank who's

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going to sell it to somebody else. I get a big

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old payment. I get a big old equity payment.

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large and in charge. Well, for a lot of people,

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that might work out for them. That might be the

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choice they want to do. They might want to put

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it towards other things. They might have plans

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for that money. But what happens is, let's say

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all your equity, all your retirement is in your

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home. Which, without being too judgmental here,

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if all your retirement income is trapped in the

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equity of your home, you haven't done a great

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job saving. You have not been good with money.

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You have not managed your money well. That's

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why it's all in your home. You don't have anything

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else. So now what are you going to do with this

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windfall of equity that you get? I can tell you

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what you're going to do. Most likely, you're

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going to piss it away somehow. You know, one

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of your uncle Johnny is going to have a great

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idea of investing and you're going to give it

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to him or your kids are going to ask you for

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a loan. You're going to give it to them. You're

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going to see it again. And so having a big equity

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windfall in retirement for a lot of people, I

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don't see working out very well because you don't

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know what to do with it. You don't have the history

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of demonstrating that you know what to do with

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the windfall. It's like a lottery winner. Like

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most people that win the lottery go broke. Because

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they don't know what to do with a windfall. They

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have no idea what to do with this large amount

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of money. So if you are going to do seller financing,

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this provides you with a number of advantages.

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Is it simple? No, not necessarily. Is it as complicated

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as people may make it out to be? I also think

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no. So it involves a little more research. It

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involves a little more due diligence. It involves

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hiring a real estate attorney who specializes

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in these things. Disclaimer, I am not an attorney.

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I am a guy on the internet. My name is Doug Varinas,

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licensed real estate agent in Washington and

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Oregon. If we haven't met before, I am not an

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attorney. I'm a guy on YouTube. But if I'm looking

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to retire or I own my home in any way, even if

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I'm an investor, I think this is a really good

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exit strategy if you're looking for more consistency.

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in income every month instead of getting that

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windfall or 1031ing into another property. I

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think if you're an investor, you may have more

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practice with dealing with these large payments,

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large amounts of money, and you know how to allocate

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capital. But if you're a Joe Schmo retiree who's

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trapped in their home equity, that's your big

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nest egg, you're going to blow that. So I'm offering

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you a potential alternative. Again, consult with

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your people about this. But basically what seller

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financing is, is you own your home outright and

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you can do what you want with it. So you can

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put it on the market and you can use a real estate

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agent or you can not use a real estate agent.

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You can kind of give them a finder's fee because

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you can pay them a straight commission. There's

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a lot of ways to work that out. But ultimately,

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it would involve you selling your home. to somebody

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at a certain price, at a certain interest rate,

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and for a certain amount of time. Now, because

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you are in control of your home, there are a

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million ways to structure this sort of deal.

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So if you did need a certain amount of windfall,

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like if you're looking to downsize and you needed

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a down payment, well, part of the seller financing

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could be requiring a 10, 20... 30 % down payment

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from the person who's gonna purchase it from

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you. That could be certainly a portion of or

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a part of the deal that you could structure.

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in to make it worth your while to get some money

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up front to get you going in your next stage

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of life. And then you're collecting the monthly

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payments plus interest. So it works similar to

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a mortgage. You have a purchase price. A lot

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of people are looking for seller financing for

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whatever reason. They don't qualify for a traditional

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mortgage. Maybe they're contract workers. There

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could be any number of reasons. And or they're

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like me, where they just they don't want to pay

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a bank to purchase a home. Like as an investor,

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I like to get seller financing or some kind of

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alternate creative financing, they call it, so

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I can put less money into a deal or I can structure

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it the way I want it, especially in a higher

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interest rate environment like today. You can

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potentially get a higher purchase price for your

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home overall if you're willing to accept a lower

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down payment or lower interest rate, because

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those are really the three factors in this transaction.

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You have a purchase price, you have an agreed

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upon interest rate, and then you have the terms,

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like how long are you going to do it? How is

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it structured? A couple of options are the straight

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30 -year amortization schedule where you have

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an agreed upon price. And a lot of times you

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can command a premium for your home because you're

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offering the seller financing and because you're

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offering a lower interest rate as an incentive

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to that. buyer, you can ask for a higher purchase

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price. That's great. You don't have to go through

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this whole price reduction, paying all these

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fees. You can get that higher price point. And

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so that's going to be really advantageous for

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a seller. And again, you can capture the interest.

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So right now, interest rates are like 7 % or

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something. If you charged 5 .5%, 5%, you can

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hold on to that note and you collect that 5 %

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for 30 years or whatever. You can will that to

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your descendant. If you pass away and you're

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getting that consistent monthly. And so you are

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getting that consistent income and you're capturing

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that percentage. And if you know anything about

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an amortization schedule on a 30 year mortgage,

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like the first 10, even 15 years, the majority

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of the payment is interest. So in the event that

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your seller defaults, it returns back to you.

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You still own the property. And so this is going

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to be so you're going to be collecting that.

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consistent monthly income for the entire 30 years.

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Now, you can structure it different ways where

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you can capture those terms in the first year,

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two years, three years, five years. And then

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at the end of that, you can request that there

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be a balloon payment written into the agreement

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where you get the entirety of your equity paid

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out at the end of that. Period. So it basically

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would work the same way as a 30 year mortgage.

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They would pay you a down payment. You would

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collect the principal and interest. And then

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at the end of that defined period, they would

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either have to they would have to basically refinance

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or sell or something to get you your money. So

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you could structure it to where you have you're

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holding that note for a couple of years. And

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then after that. you're having a balloon payment

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to get all your money back. So in short, it's

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an option for people who want consistent income

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and to capture that monthly interest. Because

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when you just sell, you're giving that all back

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to the bank. You're losing it, especially when

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you own your home. You're giving it all right

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back to the bank. And unless you really need

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that windfall and you have a plan for it, a lot

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of times it might be more advantageous to, in

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fact, have a deal structured like this to where

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it guarantees you income. People are constantly

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talking about Social Security and Social Security

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is not going to be there. And people talk about

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consistency of payment and retirement from pensions

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or annuities or some kind of retirement advice

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that gives them consistent income that has a

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high value. But they don't think about their

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home that way. It doesn't occur to anybody and

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nobody is talking about it. Investors are talking

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about it, but real estate agents aren't talking

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about it. And I don't hear a lot of talk about

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that in the retirement community. Tell me if

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I'm wrong. If you have done seller financing

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on your home or you know someone who has, I would

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love to hear about it in the comments. If you

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want to do this or you have a desire to do this

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with your home, you're in the Vancouver area

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or not, I'd love to talk to you about doing that

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too. I would love to work on selling your home.

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this structure. I think it's really interesting

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because the world is moving towards decentralization

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and direct -to -consumer and getting rid of middlemen

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who don't provide value and for us to keep our

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assets. over the long term and not to just give

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them back to an institution like a bank, again,

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might work for somebody, works for a lot of people,

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but it might not work for everybody. And so,

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again, my name's Doug Varinas. I'm a real estate

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agent here in Vancouver, Washington, and licensed

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in Oregon. If you're thinking of buying... selling

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or investing, I'd love to hear from you and just

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have a conversation. 100 % no pressure. We can

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talk about real estate. That's what I love to

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do. And at the end, if you want to work with

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me, great. If you don't, that's great too. No

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worries. I hope this has been helpful. If it

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has, please do a like, a subscribe and a share

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because that helps me out. Please post any questions

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in the comments. But I think this is really interesting.

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Again, you're going to need a real estate attorney

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to help you drop this paperwork and to go over

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it. So that's going to be a fee for you. But

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a lot of times you can sell these directly to

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people. And, you know, there might be you might

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have to pay a real estate agent sort of a finder's

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fee or like a transaction fee for that to help

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you. You definitely have to pay for the attorney,

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but it's not as complicated. as it seems because

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like a mortgage, you know, it's pretty basic

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in the underlying structure of it. You just have

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to basically wrap your mind around like you are

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the bank. But once you do, I think you might

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start seeing how you can structure these deals

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very creatively to get everything you want. And

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it really makes it a win -win situation because

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recently I've been in a situation where I wanted

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to buy a house and I wasn't happy with the terms

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I got from the bank. I just didn't want to pay

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that. And it was a decent rate, actually. I can't

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complain. But then there was also all the other

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paperwork I had to go through. And I had recently

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done some financial stuff that they were like,

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whoa, what's that? Even though it wasn't really

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that big of a deal. And so the underwriting for

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these deals, you still want to make sure people

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are going to pay you back. But the worst case

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scenario is like you have to foreclose on them

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and maybe they damage your home. It's not without

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risk. But at the end of the day, you still own

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your home if they default and you just get it

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back and you have collected their down payment

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and all the payments up until that point that

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they default. So that's a powerful thing, too.

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And yes, it's an inconvenience. And yes, it wouldn't

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be fun to have to deal with that and pay the

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extra legal fees and stuff. But at the end of

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the day. you would be able to regain possession

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of your property and then sell it again. So I

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see this being incredibly advantageous for people

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who are looking to retire and don't necessarily

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need that windfall all at once. They might need

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a down payment's worth of windfall to get them

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going to the next stage, but then after that,

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they're going to get that consistent income.

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Again, hope you enjoyed this. I'll see you in

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the next episode.
