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Hello and welcome to the Spotlight Vancouver

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podcast. I am your host, Doug Varinas, licensed

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real estate agent in Washington and Oregon. And

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today we're going to talk about multi -generational

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living, who is buying multi -generational homes,

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why they're buying them, and what to look for

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in a multi -generational home. Let's get to it.

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First of all, multi -generational homes are hot

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right now. And I see this trend continuing into

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the future. It's something I've spoken about

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multiple times, especially as an occupational

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therapist, watching this silver tsunami come

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online. We got more and more boomers retiring,

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getting older, getting into the health care system,

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having increased health care needs. in combination

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with some other factors is leading to a boom

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in multi -generational housing and we're going

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to continue to see this and how i define multi

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-generational housing or a multi -generational

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home is having three or more generations living

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under the same roof so that could be parents

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with their kids and grandparents any combination

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of generations really and it is a trend again

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Going to continue seeing a lot of it. And the

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two people or the two main groups I see buying

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multi -generational homes are one, they are older

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adults who are downsizing. But what they're actually

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doing is they're looking to downsize, but at

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the same time, bring in their younger children

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into the mix. So they might be they already own

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a home. They're looking to downsize or relocate.

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They have children living somewhere who are,

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you know, because of just how. expensive housing

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has gotten, they're struggling to come up with

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the money to buy a home by themselves. So what

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they're doing is these older people are selling

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their homes. They are buying new homes, bigger

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homes to accommodate themselves as well as their

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children. And so that's one group of people I

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see buying multi -generational homes. I've seen

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a number of these people and are helping them

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find these very specific homes with very specific

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floor plans. Of course, everybody is an individual

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and looking for their own thing but in general

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that's the first group in the second group are

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parents Excuse me. Are people, usually middle

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-aged people with older parents who are sort

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of looking down the road, they might also be

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looking to downsize or move. And they're doing

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that with their parents in mind. So their parents

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may be living somewhere else. They're getting

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a little bit older. Maybe those parents are looking

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to sell their property. And so the older middle

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-aged parents are looking for homes that can

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accommodate their aging parents. It's just sort

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of the same thing, kind of in reverse. So you

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have parents looking to bring their children

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in because they're having trouble financially

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affording a home and need a little bit of help.

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And so they can all live together. And then you

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have people with their aging parents who are

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looking to buy their next home with their aging

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parents in mind. Those are the two main groups

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I'm seeing and I'm seeing more and more of them.

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And so why do multigenerational housing? Well,

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first, as I mentioned for everybody, but especially

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younger people, the cost of buying a home has

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gotten really expensive relative to wages. So

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owning a home for many people is becoming more

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and more out of reach, you know, and that's that's

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for a lot of different reasons that I won't get

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into. But let's just say overall that, you know,

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relative to the median wage in America, that

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purchasing a home has never been more expensive.

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And so if they have parents who own homes or

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own their own home, maybe they own more than

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one home and they are looking to downsize or

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they're looking to relocate, they have their

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own limitations in mind and they want to sort

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of help out their children at the same time.

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They will look for a multi -generational home

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because that really helps the kids out before

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the parent, you know, leaves it in an estate,

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like in their will. And more and more these days,

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I'm wills and estates just. You know, you need

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to give it away. Like if you have an estate and

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you have children who are, you know, young, young

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adults kind of struggling or even not like the

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best time to give away your wealth and to pass

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that down is when the kids need it, because odds

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are when you pass away, they'll already. be established

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in some way and it won't help them as much. Like

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if you can help them now, go ahead and do it.

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So I do enjoy seeing that as a trend where these

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folks are buying homes for their younger children

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so they can cohabitate. So there's a huge monetary

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reason to buy multi -generational housing just

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from an affordability standpoint. And healthcare,

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too. The cost of healthcare has gone up. The

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cost of individual care, as far as nursing homes,

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assisted living, is astronomical. And so another

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component of it, and you can put this in a cost

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-saving category or quality of care, but it also

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involves cutting down on that cost to have the

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family members taking care of each other. So

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having the younger family members. Taking care

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of older family members as far as like keeping

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an eye on them, you know, making sure their laundry's

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done, preparing meals, like basic stuff, non

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-medical stuff, but very important stuff, very

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important aspects in regards to health care,

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because having to pay somebody to do that or

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sending them to an assisted living is really

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expensive. And so I think for a lot of people,

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the option to have their older folks living closer

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to them and by living closer to them, I mean

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living under the same roof really solves a lot

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of problems. in regards to like peace of mind

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with healthcare quality and just being able to

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keep an eye on those older parents. And that

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sort of transitions into the non -monetary reasons

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for multi -generational living. And they are

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enormous. We live in a lonely culture. We tend

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to separate. We move away. We value independence.

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We don't value interdependence. And so more and

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more elderly folks are living lonely lives. And

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we all are. Like, it's not just limited to the

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elderly. I feel like everybody living in America,

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at least, is experiencing loneliness to a certain

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degree, like just because of the way society

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is set up. So I do feel like having multi -generational

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living, more than one generational living in

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the home, creates just a more warm and connected

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social infrastructure. So I may have my children,

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they live with me. And if I have grandma living

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with me, she can provide some child care. So

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that's, you know, another economic component

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because child care is also super expensive. So,

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man, we really have like a trifecta of cost cutting

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here with regards to just housing in general,

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pooling resources to buy a home, multigenerational

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home. We have the health care component cutting

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down on the health care costs by providing. supervision

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and basic amenities like laundry and food and

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just keeping an eye out and providing some help

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here and there, which is huge. And then child

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care, also expensive, also can solve that need

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if the grandparents or older generation is able

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to watch out for the children. This creates,

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I mean, an immense advantage for families, I

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believe, because they can save on some child

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care and also just the. having them closer to

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their grandparents. I just believe there's such

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a huge mental health. a benefit to that and a

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social benefit. And I don't have any, I don't

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have any stats on this, but I mean, if you look

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at blue zones, like, you know, Italy and Okinawa

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and in Japan and stuff, like they have more connection

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and they have more intergenerational connection.

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And so I think that just having everybody together,

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having the children more exposed to the older

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generation, having them interacting more often,

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sharing knowledge, sharing their experiences

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is just, you can't put a monetary. value on that

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so i think that's huge and not to mention like

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stronger marriages i don't live in a multi -generational

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household although i am thinking about it really

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i think that's going to be in my future as well

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and i think that's going to be tremendous but

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like just getting like date nights and time away

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from the kids like if your parents They live

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far away and, you know, you're not able to take

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advantage of them just being able to come over

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and watch the kids. Again, you're paying like

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quite a bit for a babysitter. It's nuts. Like

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even my 14 year old babysitter makes like, you

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know, a pretty good wage. She just upped her

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rates. So good for her. You know, I appreciate

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her. She's like a little entrepreneur. So good

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for her. But yeah, it's just an added cost. And

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so those monetary and non -monetary costs like

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they. They dovetail, and again, you can't put

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a monetary benefit on all the social advantages

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of having a multi -generational. home. I think

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it's a movement. I'm going to hot take. It's

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a movement. And I think it's kind of a revolution.

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And housing continues to be this expensive. And

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health care continues to be this expensive. And

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child care continues to be this expensive, which

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I don't see it getting cheaper anytime soon.

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I think it's going to be a revolution in living

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and how we live. And I can only see that being

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a good thing, obviously. You know, you got to

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be kind of conscious about it. And there's bound

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to be some conflicts and boundaries that need

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to be set. And, you know, everyone needs to be

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an adult. And I'm sure that sometimes you're

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going to just be like, you know, this is kind

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of crazy. But at the end of the day, I think,

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you know, the days of like, as far as living

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goes and being like independent and everybody's

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living in their separate little. home i i can

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see that getting less and less and again i think

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that's beneficial for society if i may have an

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opinion on that because you know we definitely

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live in in a less cohesive more separate lonelier

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society and so i think multi -generational housing

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like solving a lot of problems. Some of them

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are practical, some of them are more esoteric,

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but I think it's a good thing. And so that brings

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us to the question of what should you be looking

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for in a multi -generational home? And just shameless

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plug, as an occupational therapist trained. especially

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trained in such things as aging in place and

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accessibility. If you're looking for a multi

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-generational home, you can always schedule a

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100 % no pressure free consult chat where we

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can talk about all these things. You can choose

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to use my services or not. I'm happy to help.

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You can do that by emailing me at doug at dougvarinas

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.com or going to TidyCal. like tidy calendar,

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tidycal .com backslash Doug Varinas to schedule

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a chat with me. I would love to just. get your

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thoughts, see how we might be able to work together

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and just be able to answer your questions in

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a super stress -free, casual way. So some of

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the things I would be looking for in a multi

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-generational home are having at least a primary

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suite and a main bathroom on the ground level.

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An entirely ground level home is great, but in

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my experience, I've seen it where it's good to

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have some separation between the generations.

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So again, this is going to be very individual.

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individual and according to everyone's needs.

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But in general, you're going to need to have

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some an accessible bedroom and bathroom on the

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ground floor. This is something that all of my

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multi -generational folks are looking for because

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you don't want to be walking up and down stairs.

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And so there are ways around that. There's like

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stair lifts and stuff where you can, you know,

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I'm thinking of a movie right now. I think it's

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like Home Alone or something anyway, where the

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little you sit on the thing and it takes you

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up the stairs. You know, I've seen elevators

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in places. that can get really expensive. So

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it's good to consult and think about these things

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beforehand so you can get a jump on them and

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kind of avoid those renovation expenses. So ground

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floor. Related to that is going to be stepless

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entries or one -step entries into living spaces

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and backyards. So an entrance should have no

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steps or one step. Access to the backyard should

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have no steps or one step. We're trying to eliminate

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steps if you haven't. caught on as much as possible

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just because they lower the risk of falls. For

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one, a lot of falls happen on stairs and steps.

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And they also provide for, you know, in the future,

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if for some reason you'd have to use a wheelchair,

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they add a little bit more of an easy accessible.

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It's easier to put to modify those areas for

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entrance instead of steps or stairs because then

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it gets a lot more challenging and costly. And

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so after that, I look for open concept. So wider

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hallways, like a minimum 36 inch hallway. The

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more open the spaces, the better. Again, this

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has to do with mobility and also fall risk and

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safety. So the more. narrow spaces you have to

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negotiate. It's going to make it difficult if

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you're using a cane or a walker or a wheelchair.

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And then just having more stuff in a smaller

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space increases the risk of falls. So open concept

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is preferable with clear sight lines into different

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rooms. Again, this is for safety and for ease

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of mobility. So I would definitely look at a

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more open concept. Home. Next up is going to

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be, so in the bathroom, huge. Huge area, huge

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concern for falls, slips, falls, injuries. I'm

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going to look for walk -in showers or roll -in

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showers. So, you know, a very small step or no

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step into the shower is going to be preferable.

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And if you can get that on that ground level

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bathroom, that's going to be the best option.

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But at least having one bathroom with a walk

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-in or roll -in shower, again, depending on your

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specific situation, you know, you're going to...

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There's other factors that are going to be involved

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in that bathroom, looking at, you know, non -skid

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surfacing for the shower. You know, you may have

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some sort of grab bars or a bench or a shower

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seat. That's a that's, you know, again, it's

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very personal. But at the bare minimum for the

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home, I would look at a walk in or roll in shower.

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And let's see, you know, and a lot of people,

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the last one on my list is. Something that people

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sometimes forget when looking at a multigenerational

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home for, you know, especially older generation,

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but for everybody is just being closer to amenities.

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So and that includes the, you know, the hospital

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or whatever health care is needed, but also just

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like close to parks, close to classes that the

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person is taking or, you know, a walkable neighborhood

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that's, you know, more that has sidewalks. So

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it's a little safer. You know, that's going to

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be, you know, people are going to have different

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interests, but you don't want to be far from

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those from those interests and amenities. You

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know, you want to kind of you want to have access

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to them, be able to easily. participate in those

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activities that are going to really enrich your

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life, especially if you're older. You don't want

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to have to be driving long distances. If for

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some reason you weren't able to drive, that's

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going to make it incredibly inconvenient to add

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these things further. So I always suggest that

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you're around the amenities that you use and

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enjoy when looking at a multi -generational home.

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Because a lot of these homes, some of them are,

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you know, they might be on acreage or something

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and they're kind of out. You know, they're out,

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they're further away from the amenities. So it's

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something to consider when looking for these

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multi -generational homes. So that about wraps

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it up. Multi -generation is here to stay. There's

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several reasons to buy a multi -generational

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home. And that could be for parents who are looking

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to downsize and who are looking to help their

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children out by including them on the purchase

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of a home. Or this also includes the sandwich

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generation, middle -aged folks who are looking

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to buy a new, usually bigger home to accommodate

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an aging parent. I mentioned some of the cost

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reasons and some of the... the non -monetary

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reasons that multi -generation is going to take

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off. I hope you enjoyed this. Let me know in

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the comments what you think about multi -generational

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living and where you think it's going. And especially

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if you live in a multi -generational home, I'd

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love to hear about your experience. Drop something

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in the comments. Let me know what your experience

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is like. And I look forward to seeing you soon.

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You guys take care. See you on the next show.
