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Hey guys, back for episode 3 of The Apprentice

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season 1, episode called Respect. In this episode,

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Donald Trump is going to ask the two teams to

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go head -to -head in the challenge of who can

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negotiate the highest markdown on a set of items.

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So you'll have again the men versus the women

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and the goal is to... get the highest discount

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on a set of items. So as always, we're going

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to hear a couple of clips that we will comment.

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The first one is a lesson directly from Trump.

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So let's go straight into it. The art of the

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deal. Negotiation is a very, very delicate art.

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Sometimes you have to be tough. Sometimes you

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have to be as sweet as pie. You never know. It

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depends on who you're dealing with. I've always

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said that negotiation is not really learned.

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It's almost innate. It's in the genes. A negotiator

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is born. All right. So very simply here, we understand

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that negotiating is a dynamic process, that the

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rules aren't very... It depends on who you're

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speaking to. Sometimes killing with kindness

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is better. Sometimes being very sweet, very friendly

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is the right approach. Sometimes being very tough

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is more appropriate. And that's why Trump is

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saying that it's not taught. It's innate because

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you can't really teach. to someone how to have

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the right response or the right attitude towards

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negotiation as a rule. It's really an instinct.

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And when are you tougher? When are you kinder?

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Where do you draw the line is really on a per

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situation basis. And that's why it doesn't...

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fit the mold of you know cookie cutter textbook

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college university description so essentially

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for him the art of the deal is innate it is innate

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and he's going to ask of his apprentices right

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the contestants to to really use that skill and

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show him who can negotiate the better deal next

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Next clip we're going to see is very interesting.

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It's Trump taking the time to go see kind of

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the underdog of the competition, the one who

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is most badly talked about. And this is going

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to echo Trump's mantra that all publicity is

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good publicity. And in a way, we see that the

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guy who made the most noise, even though it was

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not in the most productive way, he did get Trump's

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attention. So listen to the next interaction

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and you're going to see that Trump goes out of

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his way to greet someone you would not otherwise

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think he would stop. I hear you're in charge.

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I am in charge, Mr. Trump. I am the coach of

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this team. How are you doing today? Well, we're

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going to see because the men are taking a big

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beating. Are you going to turn it around? We've

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already turned it around. I never knew you were

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so short. Huh? You want to shake my hand? I want

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to shake your hand. You really do? Give me a

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hint. How's he doing, fellas? All right? He's

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taking his charge. You think they maybe made

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you the team leader to get rid of him? That is

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possible. Well, you know how that doesn't happen?

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If you win. Good luck. Thank you. Thank you.

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Have a good day. That was one of the biggest

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moments of my life, shaking that man's hand.

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He is my mentor. All right. So first of all,

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we see Trump is extremely respectful and courteous

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to go out of his way, shake hands of the, you

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know, he's intrigued by the underdog. He does

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see he has a fight in him. He does see he's creative.

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He can, you know, speak for himself. stands out

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from the crowd and he often says it's either

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going to be like his great success or his great

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downfall but trump is intrigued he is interested

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in in other people especially those who are trying

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so so i guess uh what we can learn from him is

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that by putting yourself out there and doing

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the effort you do catch some positive attention

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and here There's another lesson. And Trump basically

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is telling him, right, he understands that he,

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that Sam has been picked as team leader so that

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if his team fails, he is one of the three candidates

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potentially to be ousted. And at this point,

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after three losses, it's most likely, you know,

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it's going to fall on him. And Trump gives him

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a very sage advice. And this advice is echoed

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in other business literature, say from Jeffrey

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Pfeffer in, seven laws of power essentially it's

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seventh law basically that that success justifies

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you know the in in a way that if the outcome

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is positive then it excuses the eccentricities

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of the person he tells him you know how that

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doesn't happen how he doesn't get kicked out

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of the show and still has a chance to be the

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apprentice is if his team wins and and in a way

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uh you know success is the ultimate revenge right

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it's it's often said and and we can clearly see

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how how it makes sense that ultimately um ultimately

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the The outcome will, you know, the story is

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told by the winners, right? So if he manages

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to pull the first one for the team, then he can

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completely reverse how the script is. And same

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story for Trump. in the way that he reshaped

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the Republican Party. He was an outsider to the

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Republican Party and he came with his own vision,

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truly his own vision. He understood what the

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Republican electorate, he really reached out

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to him and also to other, you know, center and

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other members of the American public and he made

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all his support coalesce around his vision and

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winning, the fact that he won, overwhelmingly

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in 2016 and in 2024 um it it's the outcome gives

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him proves that he was right in a way so it it

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proves all of his critics wrong and it uh it

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validates all the people who believed in him

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and and it kind of the doubters the people who

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doubted him are you know to not go too much on

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that topic of course they're they're a bit you

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know they they have to to to go or revisit their

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assumptions to say the least and this is a very

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satisfactory feeling for trump we'll see in some

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of his books he's going to make references to

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to how revenge in certain ways, like via success,

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it is a very wholesome feeling. And so this is

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some of the mentorship he gives to Sam ahead

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of the challenge. So we're going to pursue and

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go a little further. So I'll sum up the episode.

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The women, of course, I mean, they were more

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successful at negotiations because they went

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for items that had a bigger margin. So if the

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woman, for example, went to a golf store, I'm

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going to play a short clip of that, and they

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negotiated a good amount off of the club, whereas

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the men want to try to negotiate. gold and gold

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is really set at market prices and they were

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much less successful in getting a discount. We'll

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just hear a clip of one of the women closing

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a discount on a golf club. So how about cost

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plus 10 %? You're making money. Yeah, plus 10

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% to your ideal. For 300 bucks, you got yourself

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a deal. Okay, there we go. We got a deal. And

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here we just witnessed getting a $120 discount

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on golf clubs. One that should be $419, one for

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$300. And that's because the woman knew that

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this was a high margin item. And they proposed

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a solution that was win -win in that the club

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owner was making a profit. And they were kind

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of... asking him to make this concession for

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the sake of the competition. And he kind of felt

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sympathy towards them, but he was still winning.

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He was not at a loss, whereas the men, when they

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were trying to negotiate percentage points off

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of gold, they were literally trying to get gold

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at lower than the market price. And it was a

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very tough... They weren't able to pull it off.

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So ultimately, the women win again and Trump

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is going to congratulate them. And notice you're

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going to encounter something very interesting.

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Remind you, this is 2004. So this is really one

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of the first times you see an equal... board

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women and men we talk a lot about equality in

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the work workplace and have you know having you

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know elevating the role of woman executive and

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you're going to see this is trump is surrounded

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on his right he has a male advisor on his left

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he has a female advisor and he has the two teams

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fight off each other. And the team of women is

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exceptionally competent. Trump is admirative

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of that. And I'll let you listen and add some

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comments. I'm starting to think that I may never

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hire a man again. I'm very disappointed in you.

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All right, look, the men lost, the women won.

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That's that. To celebrate, here's what you're

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going to do tonight. You're going to have dinner

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at the world famous 21 Club. Now, my father was

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a builder in Brooklyn and Queens. His biggest

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treat ever was the ability to go to the 21 Club

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on occasion with his friends and have dinner

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there. And he had one table that he loved. That's

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my father, Fred Trump. And you're going to have

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dinner tonight at the Fred Trump table at the

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21 Club. So you're going to enjoy it. All right.

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So Trump treats. the winning team to a table

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where his dad want to celebrate business deals.

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So he, it shows, you know, a generous personality

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that despite his status, he is open to share

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some of the most intimate and, you know, prized,

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sentimental, you know, places, things that we

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saw in the first episode. He, he did give a tour

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of his. private apartment. Now he's treating

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the women to a dinner among themselves at his

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dad's favorite restaurant at his habitual spot.

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And we'll see how the women react to that. They're

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very grateful, of course. And of course, they

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are going to repeat the fact that he said, you

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know, what he said about the fact that he feels

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that women in this case were more competent.

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And this just dispels some of the myth about

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Trump and, you know, some of the false characterizations.

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We see that he is indeed very much pro -competence.

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And when he recognizes, when he sees it, he recognizes

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it. egos for the more competent uh person regardless

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of gender in this case absolutely uh it was a

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woman so here we're gonna hear their initial

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uh reactions this is where donald trump ate when

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he was little how many deals have been made how

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about mr trump's comment about never hiring another

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All right. They noticed that. And that was 2004.

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So it's just, if you watch the show, you're going

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to see, you know, how he was good at spotting

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talent and at recognizing talent, where it comes

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from. Now, we're going to segue into probably

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the final clip for today. And this is kind of

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the assessment done with the man. after the women

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are gone for for fun the men have to face an

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elimination and in the elimination round uh basically

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it's kind of the time to examine what went wrong

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what went wrong and uh i'll let the clip play

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it's gonna be self -explanatory for for most

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of it and we may comment you know as a man i'm

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so I'm disappointed with you guys. I don't know

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what's happening. George, what happened this

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time? I mean, this is just nuts. Sam, you were

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the team leader. Yes, I was. Well, I think we

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had a successful plan, and everybody understood

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the plan. And at the end of the day, although

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everyone did try, the plan was not implemented.

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Is it Sam's fault, do you think, fellas? Kwame.

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Yeah, I think it is Sam's fault. If you look

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at how the overall procedure broke down, we knew

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that the golf club had a large spread and we

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can negotiate. We also knew that the leg wax

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had a large spread. And that's where we got beat

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on those two items. $119 on the golf club and

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$50 or so on the leg wax. So what did Sam do

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to mess you up? So we were on our way to get

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the leg wax. We immediately got a call around

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1130 or so saying, you must go to buy the gold

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now before noon. Gold is not going to change

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based on whether you buy it before noon or not.

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And also there's not a lot of margin in it. And

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we said that. We still got, look, you know, we

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did our research. You've got to leave Chinatown

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now and go get the gold. The problem with the

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golf clubs is we were furnished two numbers.

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The second number we called, the store didn't

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even carry golf clubs. Right. So we're sitting

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here looking at each other. What kind of backup?

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But you went to a golf store. Wait a minute.

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And we were kind of, that's when we were kind

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of perplexed. Like, this is the number, this

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is the address you gave us to go buy the golf

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club. I called the store and they said, we're

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sorry, we don't even carry golf clubs, sir. Nick,

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you think Sam's a leader? I think he displayed

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leadership qualities during the task. Whether

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or not I would have made the same decisions,

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I'm not quite sure. Do you guys think Sam's a

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leader? No. And here's why Sam's not a leader.

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When we have to all, the rest of the team, tell

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Sam, calm down. Stay calm, Sam. Stay calm. That's

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not showing Shana's a good leader. What about

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you, Kwame? I think he's already shown some success,

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but in your role, no, I don't think he'd be capable.

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I think it actually comes down to respect. If

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I had had respect, true respect. Did they not

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respect you, Sam? Not everyone. Who did not respect

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you? Kwame and Bowie. Do you respect Kwame? I

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respect everyone at this table. I have not earned

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the full respect of everyone at the table. I

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wouldn't say that's it. That's probably the most

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true statement that you've made. And I can't

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lead until I have that respect. They can't make

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it. You have to get the respect. I do. You have

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to earn it. And if you don't earn it, you have

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to demand it. Right. And you know what? Yesterday

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I could have demanded it better. And that's what

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I'm learning. But I am a leader. But they don't

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respect you, Sam. So look, Sam. All right. So

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respect is the name of the episode. And we see

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this is kind of the theme in this feedback. Sam

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is complaining that he doesn't have the respect

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of his teammates. Trump is telling him it's true

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that he doesn't seem to be respected. Carolyn

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is advising that he should. demand respect but

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of course we hear in the feedback from the colleagues

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that there are many points of improvement for

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sam the first one kwame is saying how they were

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giving him feedback on they were close to negotiating

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a discount i think in chinatown or downtown but

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he was rushing them to go more to midtown for

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The goal negotiations, right? And he made it

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a point for it to be right before noon. He didn't

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listen. So this is the first point. He did not

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listen to what was the reality on the ground.

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So if you're leading a team, before you set the

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direct, of course, you have a direction. You

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know where to go based on your own management.

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But listen to your teammates, listen to people

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underground. They have more insight into the

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reality than you or your own managers do. So

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the fact that he didn't listen, right, that was

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minus one on the mutual respect. for sending

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them to the wrong golf address, to a golf store

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that doesn't carry golf clubs. The item list

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was clear. They had to negotiate a golf club.

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If he sends them to a golf store that doesn't

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carry golf clubs, it's a lack of preparation.

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And here, people trust your leadership. People

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trust your command. They believe you've done

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the research. You are sending them physically

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to an address. They believe at minimum you have

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made the call or you know what's waiting for

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them there instead of just sending them to the

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first address that popped up. And once they realized

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that that was the case, right, that there was

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no proper preparation, no proper care, you know,

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again, a minus one on the mutual respect there.

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So first we mentioned. The lack of listening

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now is the lack of preparation or lack of care.

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And finally, Bowie mentions that Sam is not a

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leader when his emotional intelligence has to

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be put in check, right? He needs his subordinates

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or his teammates to calm him, right? So the role

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of a leader... On the opposite, it's to lead

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on the emotional intelligence front as well.

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It's to be there for his coach's sports team.

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You want the coach to have more emotional intelligence

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than the players to help them navigate their

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emotions and the ups and downs, not the other

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way around. And here, it's the other way around.

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So another minus one on the respect front. To

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summarize on the respect. Just if we focus in

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on why the man lost again and the specific team

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dynamics here that actually got Sam fired, despite

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the potential that Trump saw in him, it's that

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he did not truly listen to his teammates. He

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didn't make them feel heard. actually listened

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so he didn't really know what they meant and

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why they meant it he was not prepared right he

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he has a flaw of overconfidence and kind of like

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just wailing things into existence it's a it's

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a good quality but it can also also backfire

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so we can draw a quick example here from steve

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jobs who's of course known on the management

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front to be He wills the deadline he has in mind,

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and somehow his subordinates make it happen in

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time. It's impossible, and things worked at Apple

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that way. But when he was faced with his pancreatic

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cancer diagnosis, he kind of thought that he

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could just wish it away instead of following

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his doctor's advice to have surgery. And I believe

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that was one of his regrets. that he did not

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listen to... He was not open to input. That's

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what it meant. He has his vision, but if he's

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not willing to adjust it based on real -life

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reality's input, then there may be a mistake.

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Second one, of course, was that... a lack of

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preparation. Lack of preparation is a bit disrespectful.

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It's kind of like arriving late at a meeting

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without proper communications ahead of time.

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It shows the other side that there's a lack of

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care. And here, the fact that he sent them to

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an address not fully having vetted it, either

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it shows incompetence or it shows a lack of...

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A lack of respect, a lack of care for people

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who trust you is a lack of respect. So preparation

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equals caring equals respect in this regard.

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And finally, as a leader, Sam is expected, or

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you in your position of leadership are expected

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to... to keep your head cool a bit longer than

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the others and to stay level -headed and to kind

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of see the bigger picture and help calm others

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if there's a momentary turbulence, not the other

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way around. And a sign of a good leader or a

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good manager is one that can stay cool and help

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his teammates. If you're the one who needs the

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help, you're more draining resources rather than

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adding resources. And so that's good takeaways

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on the leadership front that we can take from

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this episode. And on the negotiation fronts,

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as we said at the beginning, every situation,

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every person is a bit different, right? So you

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have to adapt the style. And that's what Trump

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believes the negotiation skills are. are are

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innate they're not taught it really goes down

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to the instincts are you tougher are you kinder

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what works better depending on the circumstances

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it could be surprising what does work at the

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end but basically there's a whole range depending

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on who you're dealing with and what what's at

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stake and we saw a great move from the women's

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team is that you negotiate on items that have

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a high margin. So it's easier for the other side

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to meet you, let's say, halfway and still feel

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like it's a win -win. If you go try to negotiate

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something that has no margin, you want to eat

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at the profits or make them lose even on their

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quality basis, it's not a winning... It's not

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a winning strategy, as we saw here. Anyways,

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I hope you like this episode and stay tuned for

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more. Thank you for listening.
