You know, I had this conversation recently that's
been sitting with me for weeks now. Yes, I would
say yes, just weeks I would say yes. And I can't
shake it. I think it's because what I witnessed
in that room was not just about business strategy
or technology adoption. It was about something
way more deeper than that. something that's happening
to leaders everywhere to systems everywhere and
honestly it's keeping me up at night and I thought
to create this podcast out of out of my interest
in sharing this with you all I was sitting across
from this CEO okay brilliant guy runs a company
you will definitely recognize we were talking
about their latest transformation they had just
spent millions automating everything okay yes
everything and I mean everything customer service
operations decision -making process the works
almost every possible damn thing okay he's telling
me this with such pride you know you know we
have eliminated the human element completely
he says tone might be not harsh but it was like
that only and it's going to save us so much money
and chaos No more dealing with people people
problems and an internal chaos But his what got
to me and he is talking I'm looking at this man,
and there's nothing here Like literally nothing.
I am saying okay his eyes were empty his voice
was mechanical It was as if as if I mean he had
automated himself right out of his own humanity
and suddenly I realized this is not a success
story this is a cry for help look I'm not here
to bash automation or AI I'm a huge fan of both
really a huge fan and a huge appreciator and
I believe We are heading in this direction and
this is the direction no doubt. This is direction
to a very great extent and That's not what this
is about what we are discussing today I am here
because we need to talk about what's happening
to us While we are busy, I mean while we are
so busy Optimizing everything else We are so
focused on making our systems more intelligent
that we are becoming less human and the people
who should be leading us through this They are
the ones disappearing first That's my concern.
That's my worry You want to know what truly scares
me it's not robot taking over, or machines doing
everything for us. It's leaders who have already
given up their humanity voluntarily. It's founders
who think feeling is a bug, not a feature. It's
executives who mistake data for wisdom and then
call it progress. I've been watching this for
months, I mean for months now and I've been into
this for years earlier and right now also I do
have my own organization, my own business. In
board rooms, in government offices, in institutions
that are supposed to serve people the same pattern
keeps showing up. leaders who have become so
disconnected from their own humanity that they
can't even see what they are breaking it's out
of the I mean there is no place for this in a
boardroom or any discussion not internal not
external not personal nowhere out of context
this is the out of context thing for them here
is something that will really match with your
head, I would say. AI isn't the problem. I know,
I know and I know that everyone, everyone is
talking about it like AI taking over. Yes, I
do, I do lot, I do share lot of things around
it. I know and I know. That this is happening.
Okay, so AI making decisions AI replacing humans
But that's not where the real danger is The real
danger is is in the human sitting behind the
screen you eyes people and And deciding how to
use these tools You all know this this you have
deep down you all are aware about because I mean
AI doesn't make final decisions no but never
only people do only we can make the final decision
on them we are the ultimate we are the last I
would say we are the last point of interaction
where decisions you know take finally they start
taking shape and get implemented. So we are the
one who are the decision maker. AI doesn't choose
what gets automated. People do. AI doesn't decide
what matters. People do. And the people making
these decisions, a lot of them have already checked
out emotionally. Yes, that's the thing. They
are using AI not to. and hence their humanity
no not their human not their human aspect but
to escape from it this is the concern this is
bothering me i don't know how many times you
have felt about it you might be a founder you
might be a leader you might be a huge someone
who's sitting at a very responsible position
but why why this is happening that's the same
happening with you Is this concern bothers to
you or not? I'm not sure. Think about it. When
you see a piece of content online nowadays, can
you tell if it's real? I mean an expert can tell
but you can't. When you interact with customer
service, can you sense if anyone actually cares?
You might feel so good about someone is talking
so nicely but What about actually that system
is actually concerned about you your queries
your concerns When you hear a leader speak, can
you feel any genuine intention behind their words?
We are drowning in content that looks intelligent
but feels completely dead inside. We are surrounded
by systems that work perfectly but serves no
one. We are being led by people who sound smart
but have forgotten how to feel. is very odd here's
the thing that really gets to me we are paying
people to make AI sound more human while we are
becoming less human ourselves think about that
for a second please please take a moment think
about it just for a while you might feel something
We are literally hiring humans to teach machines
how to fake the humanity we are losing God the
irony is suffocating So let me ask you something
and I want you to really think about this, okay?
When was the last time you felt truly present
in a meeting? When did you last make a decision
based on on your gut feeling rather than a spreadsheet
or someone's suggestion through analytics. When
did you last say something in a professional
setting that came straight from your heart? If
you are struggling to answer these questions
and you have to think a lot for them, you are
not alone in this. But you are also not okay.
Now, I'm frankly speaking, I'm not here just
to point out problems, okay? I am here because
I believe there is another way, a much beautiful
way, much easier way, much logically, radically,
and always a more sound way. And I call it awakened
leadership. And before you roll your eyes and
think this is some new age nonsense, hear me
out. and this is not even a spiritual thing this
is not even anything that I mean in sort of a
meditation retreats or corporate mindfulness
programs it is none of that that's your personal
stuff that's your personal choice that's your
personal decision I'm not someone who are going
to enter that space and it's not a framework
or a methodology you can implement yes it has
a model and framework but I'm not taking you
to there and because that too is simplest no
model in the history of humanity is that simple
than this and it's something much much much simpler
when I say simpler means super simpler and much
more radical at the same time so what it is it's
it's simply about remembering that you are human
I have summarized the whole gigantic thing in
such a line that you can understand in a second
it's about remembering that you are human and
then choosing to become more deeply human every
single day. I think nothing can be more easily
explained than this. See, while algorithms are
getting faster and smarter, we are getting more
disconnected and up. This gap between machine
efficiency and human evolution is not closing
and it's getting wider and wider and that's not
because technology is advancing too fast no that's
not the reason it's because we have forgotten
who we are this is the reason we are the science
behind all science we are the intelligence behind
artificial intelligence no machine no algorithm
no system can replicate what you bring to this
world when you are fully awake and fully present.
Your intuition, your ability to read between
the lines. Your capacity to sense what's not
being said. Your power to inspire trust in a
room full of strangers. Your gift for making
people feel seen and heard. I mean these, these
are not things that can be automated these are
things that make you irreplaceable more human
and just we need to put other part other side
of becoming like the side that makes us less
human let it be there but why we are not preparing
to become more human every single day but here's
what scares me about where we are heading I look
at the numbers because we trust numbers a lot.
So let me tell you I looked at the numbers and
they tell a story that should terrify every leader
on this planet Anti -depressant use is at record
highs in United States only Other world I mean
other places in the world too, but this is about
United States right now See the numbers you can
check Divorce rates are climbing. This is not
a United States issue but coming from a worldwide
perspective. Political division is tearing communities
and societies apart. Violence is erupting in
schools. You can see what happens every single
day nowadays. Trust in institutions is collapsing.
Gone. Education outdated. Institutions bringing,
careers bringing. futures bringing meaning to
societies nowhere people are lonelier than ever
even though we are more connected than ever and
you know what all of this what all of this tells
me it tells me we are not becoming more like
machines no no no yes now listen this carefully
This all tells me we are not becoming more like
machines We are becoming worse than machines
At least machines do what they are designed to
do We are failing at being human and failing
at being functional We have handed over our awareness
to automation and our responsibility to algorithms.
We are not asking if something is right anymore.
No, no, no. We are not asking any of this. We
are only asking if it works. If it's work, I'm
OK with that. And then we call that leadership.
From politics to business, from education to
health care, Every system is breaking down. If
I'm wrong, you can let me know. If you will see
just only 2 -3 institutions in the world, then
that's not the way of looking. You have to see
the global picture. Every institution has become
a battlefield. Everyone is fighting to protect
their peace while the whole thing falls apart.
There is no one right now who is not under these
circumstances and not going through all of this.
And if I could sit down with every president,
every CEO, every founder, every leader who will
listen to this, right now, I wouldn't ask them
about their strategy or their vision. their five
-year plan no no no it's a waste question it
means nothing practically it means nothing i
would ask them are you okay do you need something
can i help this part is gone because this is
the only part that is gone this is the only thing
now they need i think because rest all they have
and they have best of best people around the
world for them but here we are standing right
now so obviously things are not working for them
they are just existing because honestly if I
say most of the leaders I meet I mean I meet
They don't need another framework. No, nothing
they need. They need nothing. They are way smart.
They are way aware of what they do in business,
what they do as leader, what they do as politician,
what they do as an organizational head, as an
activist or whatever they do, they know every
single damn thing very good. Or if they don't
know, they have expert to tell them. They need
someone who can hold their hand and ask Are you
okay? Do you need something? Can I help you?
With genuine intention. It's not about, it's
not about blaming them for anything. No, no,
no, no. I mean, they need someone to remind them
that they are human. They are human first in
making AI First World. So today I would like,
I want you to consider something. What if the
solution isn't better AI governance or more regulations
or smarter algorithms? What if the solution is
you choosing to wake up? Sounds so wise. Oh,
what a beautiful. It's not like that. It's a
very sincere question. Can only be understood
when you are grounded enough to feel it as an
urgency, not the fake urgency that we create
around AI, not the fake hype that we create around
AI, not the that political manipulation based
hype that we create around the worldwide in the
name of development progress. national interest
and what all no none of it is the inner urgency
that is coming through your inner world and that
should must come from there only then it can
be understood and what if the answer is in building
systems that can think faster but remembering
how to feel deeper What if instead of trying
to make machines more human we focused on helping
humans becoming more human if If I have to tell
what I know to be true I Would say you can delay
your awakening, but you can't avoid it forever.
No, you have to face it sooner or later You can
hide behind your dashboard, your automation,
your boards, your staff, your day -to -day routine,
your highly optimized processes but eventually
life will ask you to show up as yourself and
when that moment comes and it's coming for all
of us in many ways the only question that will
matter in this is Did you contribute something
meaningful to the world? Did you make things
better for the people who come after you? If
your heart can answer yes to that without needing
anyone's permission or approval, then you are
already awake to a certain extent. You just need
to stay aware, stay more aligned with yourself.
You are leading from the right place. You just
need more and more self -introspection and alignment
every single day for yourself. But if you are
not sure, if there is any doubt, if you feel
like you have been sleepwalking through your
own life, then it's time. It's time to remember
that the most advanced technology, most advanced
technology on this planet earth isn't the artificial
intelligence my dear friends. It's you when you
are fully awake and fully present. When you lead
as an awakened leader from all those powerful
positions around the world no matter where you
are. It's time to stop trying to become more
like machines and start helping machines serve
our humanity. It's time to lead from your soul.
Not just your spreadsheets. No, no. It's time
for your soul, my dear friends. Our future is
so, so bright if we, if we lead a way. And it
doesn't need a lot of intelligence, no? It's,
it, it do not crave for that intelligence. At
least not artificially. It need, it needs...
more of awakened humans running those systems
with their awakened consciousness. Their full
awareness of remaining human first while leading
AI first systems. And future also doesn't need
better algorithms. they will come eventually
but it is not asking for that like everything
depend on them no no no it just need better leaders
better leaders authentic leaders awakened leaders
and that starts with you no one else right here
right now we are talking about this is SunDeep
Talks a leadership awakening podcast thanks for
listening I am curious what came up for you during
this conversation. What questions in your soul
asking that your mind has been avoiding. Don't
just think about it. Feel into it. Because other
than that there is no way to understand them.
And then do something about it. I want you to
awake. The world wants you to get awakened. You
want yourself. Your soul wants to get awakened.
And this is not some day's stuff. When we are
saying this, we are already into the part of
awakened leadership. We have become an integral
part of awakened leadership. And it is the beginning
of making this world a better place together.
And thanks again for listening.