WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.919 OK, so imagine a scenario for a moment. It sounds 00:00:02.919 --> 00:00:04.459 like something ripped straight out of science 00:00:04.459 --> 00:00:06.839 fiction. You have this massive American tech 00:00:06.839 --> 00:00:09.599 company, a huge success story, and they're building 00:00:09.599 --> 00:00:12.839 these tools that, well, the military itself admits 00:00:12.839 --> 00:00:15.519 are better than anything else out there. The 00:00:15.519 --> 00:00:18.019 only tools, in fact, that are trusted on their 00:00:18.019 --> 00:00:20.199 classified networks. Exactly. The only ones. 00:00:20.600 --> 00:00:23.780 And yet right now, as we speak, the Pentagon 00:00:23.780 --> 00:00:27.699 is threatening to label the same American company 00:00:28.500 --> 00:00:31.019 a supply chain risk. And we have to pause on 00:00:31.019 --> 00:00:33.700 that phrase, supply chain risk. That isn't just 00:00:33.700 --> 00:00:36.340 some, you know, bureaucratic slap on the wrist. 00:00:36.479 --> 00:00:38.560 That's the nuclear option. That's the label you 00:00:38.560 --> 00:00:40.780 give to a company like Huawei, a company you 00:00:40.780 --> 00:00:43.560 think is basically an arm of a foreign adversary. 00:00:43.740 --> 00:00:46.740 Right. Chinese bi -tech. But here it's being 00:00:46.740 --> 00:00:49.920 aimed at a U .S. company. And this whole standoff, 00:00:49.920 --> 00:00:51.939 it really sets the stage for today's deep dive, 00:00:52.060 --> 00:00:54.700 which we're calling Power and Paranoia. It's 00:00:54.700 --> 00:00:56.880 the perfect title, because when you look at the 00:00:56.880 --> 00:00:59.320 sources we have today, and they range from internal 00:00:59.320 --> 00:01:05.079 Pentagon memos to frankly bizarre tweets of sitting 00:01:05.079 --> 00:01:07.239 congressmen. Oh, we'll get to that. All the way 00:01:07.239 --> 00:01:10.420 to the polling data. You see this one single 00:01:10.420 --> 00:01:13.340 picture emerge. And what's that? You see a government 00:01:13.340 --> 00:01:16.480 that's at war with itself, at war with its own 00:01:16.480 --> 00:01:19.299 tech partners, and maybe even at war with its 00:01:19.299 --> 00:01:23.379 own history. So grab a coffee or maybe check 00:01:23.379 --> 00:01:25.980 the brake lines on your car. Which is literal 00:01:25.980 --> 00:01:28.519 advice, as you'll soon find out. And let's unpack 00:01:28.519 --> 00:01:30.920 this. We've got a lot to get through. First, 00:01:31.280 --> 00:01:34.200 this feud between Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth 00:01:34.200 --> 00:01:37.989 and the AI giant Anthropic. Then we'll look at 00:01:37.989 --> 00:01:39.930 the fracturing of the Republican Party, where 00:01:39.930 --> 00:01:42.870 members of Congress are literally tweeting to 00:01:42.870 --> 00:01:45.230 prove they aren't suicidal. A sentence I never 00:01:45.230 --> 00:01:47.489 thought I'd say. And finally, we'll get to the 00:01:47.489 --> 00:01:49.370 numbers. The president's approval ratings are 00:01:49.370 --> 00:01:51.849 in a freefall. And the theories voters have about 00:01:51.849 --> 00:01:53.810 what it would take to turn those numbers around 00:01:53.810 --> 00:01:56.709 are, well, dark doesn't even begin to cover it. 00:01:57.109 --> 00:01:59.349 Dystopian might be closer. If... So let's start 00:01:59.349 --> 00:02:01.310 with the Pentagon, this standoff with Anthropic. 00:02:01.590 --> 00:02:03.530 It seems like a contract dispute, but you're 00:02:03.530 --> 00:02:05.170 saying it's much bigger than that. It really 00:02:05.170 --> 00:02:07.900 is. Here's the situation. The Department of War 00:02:07.900 --> 00:02:10.719 and specifically Secretary Hegseth is furious 00:02:10.719 --> 00:02:13.500 with Anthropic. Anthropic makes the AI model 00:02:13.500 --> 00:02:15.919 Claude for anyone who doesn't know. Right. And 00:02:15.919 --> 00:02:18.639 the Pentagon loves Claude. It's the only AI they 00:02:18.639 --> 00:02:21.740 have running on their classified systems. And 00:02:21.740 --> 00:02:24.960 we know it works. Oh, it works. The sources confirm 00:02:24.960 --> 00:02:27.520 it was used in that raid in Venezuela back in 00:02:27.520 --> 00:02:30.800 January, the Maduro raid. So this isn't about 00:02:30.800 --> 00:02:34.520 the product being bad. The fight is purely ideological. 00:02:34.659 --> 00:02:37.710 It's about the terms of service. Precisely. Anthropic 00:02:37.710 --> 00:02:40.469 is saying no to two things. First, weapons that 00:02:40.469 --> 00:02:43.050 can fire without a human in the loop. You know, 00:02:43.250 --> 00:02:45.930 killer robots. Okay, that seems reasonable. And 00:02:45.930 --> 00:02:49.389 second, and this is the big one domestic mass 00:02:49.389 --> 00:02:51.569 surveillance of Americans. Wait, stop there. 00:02:51.729 --> 00:02:53.930 That seems - completely reasonable. I feel like 00:02:53.930 --> 00:02:55.990 99 % of Americans would agree with both of those 00:02:55.990 --> 00:02:57.990 things. You'd think so. So why is the Pentagon 00:02:57.990 --> 00:03:00.090 willing to blow up the entire relationship over 00:03:00.090 --> 00:03:02.830 this? Because from their perspective, these rules 00:03:02.830 --> 00:03:05.969 are unduly restrictive. Their position is that 00:03:05.969 --> 00:03:08.610 they need to be able to use these AI tools for 00:03:08.610 --> 00:03:11.629 all lawful purposes. All lawful purposes. That 00:03:11.629 --> 00:03:14.500 phrase sounds so innocent. But it's doing a lot 00:03:14.500 --> 00:03:16.659 of work here. We have to look at what's actually 00:03:16.659 --> 00:03:19.500 considered lawful in 2026. And this is where 00:03:19.500 --> 00:03:21.400 the source is getting a little terrifying. We're 00:03:21.400 --> 00:03:23.599 not talking about illegal wiretaps. We're talking 00:03:23.599 --> 00:03:26.939 about open source intelligence. Yeah. Right now, 00:03:26.939 --> 00:03:30.099 the law says the government can collect any publicly 00:03:30.099 --> 00:03:32.439 available information. That's your social media 00:03:32.439 --> 00:03:35.240 posts, your public Venmo transactions, voter 00:03:35.240 --> 00:03:38.979 rolls, protest permits. And for decades, no one 00:03:38.979 --> 00:03:40.900 really worried about that because it was a needle 00:03:40.900 --> 00:03:43.669 in a haystack. You couldn't possibly have enough 00:03:43.669 --> 00:03:46.689 human analysts to read everyone's tweets. Exactly. 00:03:47.189 --> 00:03:50.090 Your privacy was protected by simple human limitation. 00:03:50.810 --> 00:03:55.050 But AI, AI removes that barrier completely. And 00:03:55.050 --> 00:03:57.569 anthropic sources lay out a pretty clear scenario. 00:03:57.830 --> 00:03:59.629 A nightmare scenario. They're worried that an 00:03:59.629 --> 00:04:02.189 AI like Claude could just continuously monitor 00:04:02.189 --> 00:04:05.449 every single American. 24 hours? I'm not hacking 00:04:05.449 --> 00:04:07.370 you. It's just taking everything you put out 00:04:07.370 --> 00:04:09.530 there in public and connecting all the dots instantly. 00:04:09.689 --> 00:04:14.050 Correct. Imagine a system that sees you criticize 00:04:14.050 --> 00:04:16.810 a policy on Twitter, cross references it with 00:04:16.810 --> 00:04:19.610 your voter registration, sees you signed up for 00:04:19.610 --> 00:04:22.529 a protest permit, and automatically flags you 00:04:22.529 --> 00:04:25.029 as a potential dissident. That's the difference 00:04:25.029 --> 00:04:28.009 between a librarian looking up a book and a supercomputer 00:04:28.009 --> 00:04:30.480 reading every book ever written. every second, 00:04:30.620 --> 00:04:32.480 just to see if your name is in it. That is a 00:04:32.480 --> 00:04:35.519 perfect analogy. And Anthropic is saying, we 00:04:35.519 --> 00:04:37.740 don't want our technology to build that list. 00:04:37.879 --> 00:04:40.360 They're drawing a line. But the Pentagon is playing 00:04:40.360 --> 00:04:43.139 hardball. Which brings us back to that supply 00:04:43.139 --> 00:04:45.439 chain risk threat. But what happens if they actually 00:04:45.439 --> 00:04:48.639 do it? It's a contagion. If Anthropic gets that 00:04:48.639 --> 00:04:51.850 label, they become radioactive. Any other company, 00:04:52.009 --> 00:04:54.709 a Lockheed Martin, a Boeing, if they want to 00:04:54.709 --> 00:04:56.870 do business with the military, they have to cut 00:04:56.870 --> 00:04:59.930 ties with Ampropic. The source is, quote, a senior 00:04:59.930 --> 00:05:02.389 official calling it an enormous pain in the ass. 00:05:02.529 --> 00:05:04.550 They did. But they also said they're willing 00:05:04.550 --> 00:05:07.829 to do it. to make Anthropic pay a price. So is 00:05:07.829 --> 00:05:09.870 Anthropic the only company they're talking to? 00:05:10.110 --> 00:05:13.410 Oh no, they're shopping around, negotiating with 00:05:13.410 --> 00:05:17.490 OpenAI, with Google, with XAI, and the administration 00:05:17.490 --> 00:05:20.730 is confident those other guys will agree to the 00:05:20.730 --> 00:05:23.470 all -lawful use standard. So the strategy is 00:05:23.470 --> 00:05:26.389 to isolate Anthropic. That's the gamble. Make 00:05:26.389 --> 00:05:28.930 an example of them. It's a test of whether an 00:05:28.930 --> 00:05:31.970 ethical AI company can even survive when its 00:05:31.970 --> 00:05:34.949 biggest potential customer demands total control. 00:05:35.199 --> 00:05:38.060 It's a digital power play. But I want to pivot 00:05:38.060 --> 00:05:42.120 now from digital threats to, well, physical ones. 00:05:42.300 --> 00:05:44.980 It's a jarring transition. It is. Because while 00:05:44.980 --> 00:05:47.740 the Pentagon is fighting about code inside the 00:05:47.740 --> 00:05:50.819 Republican Party, the fight is for physical safety. 00:05:50.939 --> 00:05:53.720 We go from high tech surveillance anxiety to 00:05:53.720 --> 00:05:56.759 this very old school, very visceral fear. And 00:05:56.759 --> 00:05:58.980 I have to read this tweet. It's from Representative 00:05:58.980 --> 00:06:01.459 Thomas Massey, a Republican from Kentucky. He 00:06:01.459 --> 00:06:04.410 wrote, quote, I'm not suicidal. I eat healthy 00:06:04.410 --> 00:06:06.790 food. The brakes on my car and truck are in good 00:06:06.790 --> 00:06:08.949 shape. There are no deep pools of water on my 00:06:08.949 --> 00:06:11.050 farm, and I'm a pretty good swimmer. It sounds 00:06:11.050 --> 00:06:13.389 like a joke, like some kind of dark comedy routine. 00:06:13.430 --> 00:06:16.170 But it's not. Not at all. In this context, it's 00:06:16.170 --> 00:06:18.709 deadly serious. He's literally listing all the 00:06:18.709 --> 00:06:21.250 ways people have accidents. It's something you'd 00:06:21.250 --> 00:06:23.629 expect a Russian dissident to post before falling 00:06:23.629 --> 00:06:25.750 out of a window. That's exactly the comparison 00:06:25.750 --> 00:06:28.629 the sources are making. Massey is signaling that 00:06:28.629 --> 00:06:31.250 if he dies mysteriously, it wasn't an accident. 00:06:31.839 --> 00:06:34.779 He's implying he fears being, while the slang 00:06:34.779 --> 00:06:37.379 is suicided, for opposing the administration. 00:06:37.600 --> 00:06:40.519 And it's not just him. Marjorie Taylor Greene, 00:06:40.639 --> 00:06:43.079 who was the face of the Magier movement for years. 00:06:43.139 --> 00:06:45.240 Now she's a target. Because she's pushing for 00:06:45.240 --> 00:06:47.160 the release of the Trump Epstein files. Right. 00:06:47.240 --> 00:06:49.220 She thinks hiding them is more damaging than 00:06:49.220 --> 00:06:52.410 whatever is in them. Trump called her wacky and 00:06:52.410 --> 00:06:55.329 suddenly she has over 700 death threats against 00:06:55.329 --> 00:06:57.769 her family. And she made a really telling point 00:06:57.769 --> 00:07:00.290 in the source material. She said when the left 00:07:00.290 --> 00:07:03.089 hated her, she got hate mail, but she never felt 00:07:03.089 --> 00:07:05.750 like she needed a private security detail. Not 00:07:05.750 --> 00:07:08.209 until she crossed Trump. Think about that statement. 00:07:08.930 --> 00:07:11.589 I was safer when my political enemies hated me 00:07:11.589 --> 00:07:14.589 than I am with my own side. It shows that loyalty 00:07:14.589 --> 00:07:17.670 is being enforced with fear. And this isn't just 00:07:17.670 --> 00:07:20.069 rhetoric. The sources mention the death of Charlie 00:07:20.069 --> 00:07:22.829 Kirk, the assassination of that state rep in 00:07:22.829 --> 00:07:25.470 Minnesota, Melissa Hortman. There's a body count. 00:07:25.850 --> 00:07:28.790 And that detail about Senator Katie Britt. Right. 00:07:29.050 --> 00:07:31.689 She offers some very mild criticism of the president. 00:07:31.910 --> 00:07:35.310 And the response from Trump was reportedly that 00:07:35.310 --> 00:07:39.569 she is dead to him. Which normally, you know, 00:07:39.670 --> 00:07:42.449 is just a figure of speech. But in this climate, 00:07:42.910 --> 00:07:45.350 the fear is that some unstable supporter hears 00:07:45.350 --> 00:07:48.110 that and takes it literally as an instruction. 00:07:48.449 --> 00:07:50.569 It creates this atmosphere where politicians 00:07:50.569 --> 00:07:53.569 are afraid to speak, not because they'll lose 00:07:53.569 --> 00:07:55.470 an election, but because they might lose their 00:07:55.470 --> 00:07:57.470 life. Which brings us to the obvious question. 00:07:57.529 --> 00:08:00.709 Why? Why is the pressure so high right now? And 00:08:00.709 --> 00:08:02.970 the answer seems to be in the polling data. The 00:08:02.970 --> 00:08:05.920 numbers are just... There was no spinning this. 00:08:06.180 --> 00:08:08.000 We're looking at net approval ratings for the 00:08:08.000 --> 00:08:10.379 president that are hitting historic lows for 00:08:10.379 --> 00:08:12.959 his second term. Yeah, between negative 19 and 00:08:12.959 --> 00:08:15.139 negative 26 percent, depending on which poll 00:08:15.139 --> 00:08:20.199 you look at. AP, Yahoo, NBC, they're all showing 00:08:20.199 --> 00:08:22.899 the same thing. A cratering. The floor just fell 00:08:22.899 --> 00:08:26.120 out. So one of our sources asked its readers, 00:08:26.459 --> 00:08:28.639 OK, what would it take to turn this around? How 00:08:28.639 --> 00:08:31.769 do you come back from being down 26 points? The 00:08:31.769 --> 00:08:33.809 answers they got, I mean, they're just so cynical. 00:08:33.970 --> 00:08:36.809 They show how broken the electorate's trust is. 00:08:37.289 --> 00:08:40.509 They basically fall into three grim categories. 00:08:40.830 --> 00:08:42.789 The first one is called the 9 -11 condition. 00:08:43.350 --> 00:08:46.009 This is the idea that a major terrorist attack 00:08:46.009 --> 00:08:49.210 would cause the country to rally around the flag, 00:08:49.389 --> 00:08:51.129 rally around the president. Which has happened 00:08:51.129 --> 00:08:54.610 before. Bush shot up to 86 percent approval after 00:08:54.610 --> 00:08:57.710 9 -11. But here's the dark twist. The readers 00:08:57.710 --> 00:08:59.649 aren't just predicting an attack. A lot of them 00:08:59.649 --> 00:09:01.610 are speculating that the administration might 00:09:01.610 --> 00:09:04.309 actually let it happen. To distract people from 00:09:04.309 --> 00:09:06.370 the Epstein story. Exactly. I mean, just think 00:09:06.370 --> 00:09:08.110 about the level of distrust you have to have 00:09:08.110 --> 00:09:10.350 to think the government would let Americans die 00:09:10.350 --> 00:09:13.440 just to get a polling bump. Wow. Okay, what was 00:09:13.440 --> 00:09:15.740 the second condition? The Trump stops being Trump 00:09:15.740 --> 00:09:18.399 condition. The fantasy scenario. Right. This 00:09:18.399 --> 00:09:20.679 is where he holds a fireside chat and admits 00:09:20.679 --> 00:09:23.539 to having daddy issues or, you know, suddenly 00:09:23.539 --> 00:09:25.960 decides to pass universal health care. Which 00:09:25.960 --> 00:09:28.419 the sources basically laugh off as impossible. 00:09:28.600 --> 00:09:31.000 Yeah, that one gets filed under never gonna happen. 00:09:31.120 --> 00:09:33.720 And the third? The death condition. This one 00:09:33.720 --> 00:09:38.019 is just grim. The theory here is twofold. Either 00:09:38.019 --> 00:09:40.860 the assassination of a popular right -wing figure 00:09:41.240 --> 00:09:44.940 could rally the base out of anger. Or, conversely, 00:09:45.039 --> 00:09:47.419 the president himself gets a terminal diagnosis. 00:09:47.639 --> 00:09:50.220 A sympathy bump. A sympathy bump. He's dying. 00:09:50.299 --> 00:09:52.659 Let's rally around him. The fact that the only 00:09:52.659 --> 00:09:55.700 paths to victory people can imagine involve mass 00:09:55.700 --> 00:09:59.539 death, assassinations, or terminal illness tells 00:09:59.539 --> 00:10:01.659 you everything about the national mood. It feels 00:10:01.659 --> 00:10:04.120 like the wheels are just coming off. And it's 00:10:04.120 --> 00:10:07.419 not just in the polls. The actual institutions, 00:10:07.580 --> 00:10:09.840 the courts, are starting to push back. We're 00:10:09.840 --> 00:10:12.740 seeing real institutional friction. The administration 00:10:12.740 --> 00:10:15.179 is trying to use the legal system to punish its 00:10:15.179 --> 00:10:18.059 enemies and, well, rewrite history, but it's 00:10:18.059 --> 00:10:20.559 not working. Let's talk about Janine Pirro. The 00:10:20.559 --> 00:10:22.659 U .S. attorney for D .C., she tried to indict 00:10:22.659 --> 00:10:25.120 six members of Congress for making a video that 00:10:25.120 --> 00:10:27.299 reminded soldiers not to follow legal orders. 00:10:27.460 --> 00:10:29.659 And how did that go for her? It was a goose egg. 00:10:29.860 --> 00:10:32.539 Zero. Not a single grand juror voted to indict. 00:10:32.809 --> 00:10:34.990 That is almost unheard of in the federal system. 00:10:35.169 --> 00:10:37.730 It's a total humiliation for the DOJ. And then 00:10:37.730 --> 00:10:39.470 there was that ruling about Independence Hall. 00:10:39.809 --> 00:10:42.049 Judge Cynthia Roof. And it's important. She's 00:10:42.049 --> 00:10:44.289 a George W. Bush appointee, not some liberal 00:10:44.289 --> 00:10:47.730 activist. The administration removed displays 00:10:47.730 --> 00:10:51.190 about slavery from Independence Hall, just erasing 00:10:51.190 --> 00:10:53.210 it. And she ordered them to put it all back. 00:10:53.370 --> 00:10:55.590 And she didn't hold back in her ruling. No, she 00:10:55.590 --> 00:10:59.049 went straight to Orwell, quoted 1984. She wrote, 00:10:59.350 --> 00:11:02.029 all history was a polypsist, scraped clean and 00:11:02.029 --> 00:11:04.570 reinscribed. She literally compared them to the 00:11:04.570 --> 00:11:07.690 Ministry of Truth. When a federal judge is quoting 00:11:07.690 --> 00:11:10.470 Orwell at you, things are not going well. Not 00:11:10.470 --> 00:11:14.009 at all. Speaking of Bush, George W. Bush himself 00:11:14.009 --> 00:11:16.799 actually resurfaced this week. Yeah, he joined 00:11:16.799 --> 00:11:19.940 Substack, of all things. After what, a decade 00:11:19.940 --> 00:11:22.580 of hibernating, as the sources called it? His 00:11:22.580 --> 00:11:24.779 first post was all about George Washington's 00:11:24.779 --> 00:11:27.879 integrity and self -restraint. Pretty clear dig 00:11:27.879 --> 00:11:30.139 of the current president. Oh, obviously. But 00:11:30.139 --> 00:11:32.360 the sources were pretty dismissive. The consensus 00:11:32.360 --> 00:11:34.980 was basically too little, too late. You can't 00:11:34.980 --> 00:11:37.340 be silent for years while your party transforms 00:11:37.340 --> 00:11:39.419 and then think a blog post is going to fix it. 00:11:39.659 --> 00:11:41.279 It feels like someone whispering in a hurricane. 00:11:41.360 --> 00:11:43.840 It really does. OK, before we finish, there's 00:11:43.840 --> 00:11:46.570 one last story. It's smaller, but I think it 00:11:46.570 --> 00:11:48.789 just perfectly captures the absurdity of this 00:11:48.789 --> 00:11:52.570 moment. Melania's movie. Ah, yes, the mandatory 00:11:52.570 --> 00:11:54.750 blockbuster. So the box office is not great. 00:11:54.789 --> 00:11:57.710 It's stalled at around 15 million. But now there 00:11:57.710 --> 00:12:00.269 are reports that an active duty commanding officer 00:12:00.269 --> 00:12:04.279 ordered his soldiers to go see the film. to boost 00:12:04.279 --> 00:12:06.600 the ticket sales. It's just, it's pathetic, but 00:12:06.600 --> 00:12:09.200 it's also illegal. You can't use your military 00:12:09.200 --> 00:12:11.519 authority to pump up the First Lady's box office 00:12:11.519 --> 00:12:13.580 numbers. The sources are calling for the officer 00:12:13.580 --> 00:12:15.639 to be court -martialed. As they should be. It 00:12:15.639 --> 00:12:18.039 just shows how the rot trickles down. You break 00:12:18.039 --> 00:12:20.019 the norms at the top, and you get some officer 00:12:20.019 --> 00:12:22.279 who thinks, I guess I have to force my troops 00:12:22.279 --> 00:12:24.580 to watch this movie to show I'm loyal. It feels 00:12:24.580 --> 00:12:26.740 like something out of a tin pot dictatorship. 00:12:27.179 --> 00:12:29.820 Exactly. So if we zoom out, what does all this 00:12:29.820 --> 00:12:33.220 mean? We've covered AI, death threats, polling, 00:12:33.539 --> 00:12:36.379 the courts. We're seeing a system under extreme 00:12:36.379 --> 00:12:39.659 stress. The executive branch is trying to consolidate 00:12:39.659 --> 00:12:43.299 power over everything, technology, history, even 00:12:43.299 --> 00:12:45.980 its own party members. But the system is kicking 00:12:45.980 --> 00:12:48.700 back. The tech companies are resisting. The courts 00:12:48.700 --> 00:12:52.080 are resisting. The voters are just exhausted. 00:12:52.120 --> 00:12:54.320 It feels like a standoff. Everyone is just waiting. 00:12:54.379 --> 00:12:56.080 And that's where the paranoia comes from. When 00:12:56.080 --> 00:12:57.960 you can't trust your colleagues, you can't trust 00:12:57.960 --> 00:12:59.820 your technology, you can't trust your government. 00:13:00.529 --> 00:13:03.210 Stability just becomes impossible. I want to 00:13:03.210 --> 00:13:05.090 leave our listeners with what I'm calling the 00:13:05.090 --> 00:13:08.590 Massey paradox. We have reached a point where 00:13:08.590 --> 00:13:11.970 a sitting U .S. congressman has to publicly announce 00:13:11.970 --> 00:13:14.789 the condition of his car's brakes just to do 00:13:14.789 --> 00:13:17.509 his job. He has to tell the world, my brakes 00:13:17.509 --> 00:13:20.149 are fine because the fear of being taken out 00:13:20.149 --> 00:13:23.289 by his own side is that real. It's unbelievable. 00:13:23.529 --> 00:13:25.970 So if the people in power, people with security 00:13:25.970 --> 00:13:28.970 details and public platforms are this afraid 00:13:28.970 --> 00:13:31.570 of each other. Where did that leave the rest 00:13:31.570 --> 00:13:33.690 of us? That's the question, isn't it? And I'm 00:13:33.690 --> 00:13:35.629 not sure anyone wants to know the answer. On 00:13:35.629 --> 00:13:37.769 that cheerful note, that's our deep dive. Thanks 00:13:37.769 --> 00:13:40.070 for listening. Stay safe out there. And maybe 00:13:40.070 --> 00:13:42.129 check your brakes. Couldn't hurt. See you next 00:13:42.129 --> 00:13:42.289 time.