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Welcome back to the deep dive. OK, so our mission

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today is really to look past just the immediate

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election results. You know, we want to analyze

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the bigger shifts happening underneath. Exactly.

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We're not just doing the horse race who won,

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who lost. We're looking at the the strategies,

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what's actually working with voters and some

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really big legal battles brewing. Right. We've

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got sources covering the media reactions, a huge

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Supreme Court case about presidential power and

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trade and also how the parties are Well, rigging

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the game for the future with maps and election

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security stuff. Yeah, a lot to unpack. We've

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pulled from places like the Washington Post,

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New York Times, Politico, NBC, NPR, ABC News,

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the usual suspects. So this dive should give

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you the key things you need to know, like what

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arguments are sticking? What's the next big fight

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in Congress or the court's going to be about?

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Let's let's jump in. OK, so first segment, the

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media takeaways. After the recent elections,

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what were the sort of recurring themes popping

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up everywhere? Well, you know, reading through

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all the analyses, two things really jumped out

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consistently. First, the Trump factor still.

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The New York Times, Politico, ABC, NBC, NPR.

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They all basically agreed he remains, let's call

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it, electoral poison for the Republicans overall.

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Even with some minority groups that had shifted

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towards him before. Even there, yeah. Yeah. The

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drag seems pretty widespread. AP just flat out

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called the results a referendum on Trump. OK,

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so that's one big theme. What was the second?

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It always seems to come back to this. It does.

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It's the economy. Stupid. Still. AP and NPR really

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hammered this home. Voters are just incredibly

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sensitive to prices, the cost of living. That's

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top of mind. And did we see that play out with

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specific candidates? Absolutely. Candidates who

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really lunged into that, who hammered on prices,

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think so are Namdani, Abil Spanberger, Mikey

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Sherrill. They seem to do really well. They were

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talking about what people are feeling at the

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grocery store. OK, but here's where it gets interesting,

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based on some polling. The blame for those prices.

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It seems to be shifting. We saw an Ipsos poll.

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Yeah, that poll was striking. It suggests Americans

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are actually blaming Donald Trump for the current

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inflation rate. He's what, 19 points underwater

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on that specific question? Nineteen points. And

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why did the poll suggest a reason? It did. The

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sources pinpointed it pretty clearly. Fifty eight

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percent of Americans think his tariffs are the

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main reason for price increases. They're seeing

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them as the scapegoat. So that connects directly

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to the cost of living concerns. Directly. You've

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got like seven in 10 Americans saying they're

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spending more on groceries. Food and energy prices

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are up what 12 percent over the last year. And

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that hits working class families the hardest.

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Which ironically is supposed to be a key part

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of his base. Exactly. And you even had figures

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like Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene warning

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Republicans could lose the House if people are

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still continuing to go paycheck to paycheck.

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So they recognize the danger. But they can't

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seem to shake the connection people are making

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between the tariffs and their wallets. It looks

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that way. It's an affordability issue that people

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are tying back to a specific policy. And, you

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know, this has real strategic implications. Look

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at Virginia's gubernatorial results. What happened

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there? Well, yeah, most counties stayed red on

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the map. But compared to the 2024 presidential

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election, every single county in Virginia shifted

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at least a little bit towards the Democrats.

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Every county. Even the deep red ones. Every single

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one. Which tells you something important about

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campaign strategy. Which is? That campaigning

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hard everywhere matters. Even in those red areas

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you know you won't win. It's about, like, closing

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the gap. So losing by less is actually a win?

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In a way, yes. Losing a red county by 10 ,000

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fewer votes is just as valuable statewide as

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winning 10 ,000 more votes in a blue county you

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already hold. It's about margin compression.

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So the takeaway is, show up. campaign on affordability,

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hammer the tariff connection, even in hostile

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territory. That seems to be the lesson from Virginia,

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yeah. Just showing up and making the case can

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shave off crucial votes, even if you don't flip

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the county. That's a powerful insight. Okay,

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speaking of tariffs and policy, let's pivot to

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the courts. Because it sounds like the Supreme

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Court... might be about to take away a major

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tool related to those tariffs. Yeah, this is

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a really big one. We're talking about learning

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resources, Inc. v. Trump. Tell us about that.

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What's the core issue? So the background is,

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you know, the Trump administration imposed all

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these huge tariffs using executive orders. They

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claimed it was an emergency situation. Right,

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I remember that. They were pretty sweeping. Oh,

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completely. The sources even pointed out kind

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of absurdly that they slapped tariffs on imports

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from Hurt Island, which is like uninhabited.

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a UNESCO site, just to show the power was supposedly

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unlimited. OK, but isn't levying tariffs basically

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taxes Congress's job according to the Constitution,

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Article 1? That's the whole point. Article I

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gives Congress the power of the purse, including

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tariffs. So the administration had to find a

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way around that. How'd they try? They argued

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Congress actually gave them that power indirectly

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through a law from 1977. It's called the International

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Emergency Economic Powers Act, IEEPA. IEPA. OK.

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And what does that law say? It lets the president

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regulate the importation or exploitation of goods

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during a declared national emergency. So the

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whole case kind of hangs on that word, regulate.

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Does regulate mean you can just impose massive

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taxes? That seems like a stretch. Well, that's

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exactly what the justices seem to think. They

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sounded pretty skeptical during the arguments.

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Especially now, right? They just overturned that

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Chevron standard about Deferring to agencies.

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Precisely. They're pushing back on agencies reading

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broad powers into vague laws. The justices basically

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asked, how could Congress just hand over its

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core taxing power without saying so very, very

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clearly? Did the administration have a counter

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to that? They tried. The Solicitor General argued

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these weren't taxes, they were regulatory tariffs.

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The goal wasn't revenue, supposedly. It was negotiation

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leverage. Did that fly? Especially when Trump

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himself said the tariffs were helping the deficit.

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Yeah, Chief Justice Roberts jumped right on that.

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If they're reducing the deficit, that sounds

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a lot like revenue, which sounds a lot like a

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tax. The regulatory tariff argument seemed pretty

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thin. So the court was dubious. What about the

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precedent? Were they worried about future presidents

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using this? Oh, absolutely. That was a huge part

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of the discussion. They posed this really pointed

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Hypothetical. What was it? They asked, OK, if

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we say the president can do this under IEPA for

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a trade emergency, what stops a future Democratic

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president from declaring climate change a national

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emergency? Uh -oh. And then slapping massive

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regulatory tariffs on all imported gas -powered

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cars. Wow. And what did the administration's

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lawyers say? He basically had to concede that

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yes, under their reading of the law, that would

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be possible. That probably didn't help their

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case much. Probably not. It runs right into this

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thing called the major questions doctrine. Remind

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us what that is again. It's relatively new, right?

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Yeah, from 2022, it basically says that for really

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big politically or economically significant regulations,

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the administration needs clear authorization

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from Congress, not just some vague word like

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regulate in an old law. And EPA doesn't have

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that clear authorization for tariffs. Not according

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to the sources analyzing the arguments. No, it

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just says regulate. It doesn't say impose unlimited

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taxes via tariffs. So what's the likely outcome

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here and when? Most observers think the administration

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is likely to lose this one, based on the justices'

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skepticism, maybe apart from Thomas Nolito. And

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because the case was fast -tracked, we should

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get a decision pretty soon, maybe before the

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end of the term. And if Trump loses, what's the

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impact? It'd be a huge blow, frankly. It takes

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away his main tool for trying to shape international

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trade deals through unilateral action. It forces

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any future tariff policy back through Congress.

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OK, so a potential major check on executive power

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coming from the courts. That takes us nicely

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into our last segment, the mechanics of the next

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fight, how the parties are setting up the battlefield

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for 2026. Right. While the court might limit

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current power, the parties are already deep in

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the trenches fighting over maps, candidates and

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even the basic infrastructure of elections. Let's

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start with the maps, the redistricting race.

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Where's the action happening? Well, California

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and Virginia are both redrawing congressional

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maps right now. The estimates we saw suggest

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that could potentially net Democrats maybe eight

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seats combined if things break their way. Eight

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seats is significant. Any specific examples of

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these mapfights? Yeah, look at Maryland. You've

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got the Democratic governor, Wes Moore, pushing

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for a new map specifically designed to target

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the state's lone Republican congressman, Andy

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Harris. His district is what? R plus eight? Pretty

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Republican. R -plus -8, yeah. It's MD -01. But

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Maryland already has some incredibly gerrymandered

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districts, like MD -03, which snakes all over

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the place. The problem for Moore is that the

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Republican voters in Harris' district are really

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concentrated geographically deep on the Delmarva

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Peninsula. So it's hard to draw them out. Exactly.

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You can try to make it maybe R -plus -3 or R

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-plus -4, which is competitive, but it's tough

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to guarantee a flip when the voters are packed

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together like that. It shows how hard it is to

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undo geographic sorting through map drawing alone.

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Okay, so that's a tough one for Democrats. What

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about elsewhere? Any wins for less gerrymandered

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maps? Actually, yes. Out in Utah. A state judge

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there just threw out the state's congressional

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map. Why? What was wrong with it? It was a classic

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crack. It took Salt Lake County, which is heavily

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Democratic, like 1 .2 million people, and split

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it up between all four of Utah's congressional

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districts. Ah, so diluting the Democratic vote

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to make sure none of the districts were competitive.

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Precisely. The judge tossed it out, and the new

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court -ordered map creates an R plus 6 district

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centered more logically on Salt Lake City. R

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plus 6. Yes. Still leans Republican, but winnable

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for a Democrat. At least conceivable, as one

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source put it. easy, but possible. They have

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potential candidates, like Ben McAdams, who held

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a seat before, or even Caroline Gleick. She's

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a professional skier who climbed Everest. An

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uphill climb then, apt. You could say that, but

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just as Dems get a shot in Utah, they've taken

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a hit somewhere else. Maine. Right. Representative

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Jared Golden is retiring. Yeah, he is a moderate

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Blue Dog Democrat in a rural district, ME01,

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that leans Republican R plus four. He managed

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to hold it, but now that he's leaving, it's going

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to be really tough for Democrats to keep that

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seat. Which probably reinforces the idea within

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the party that they need moderates in these swing

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districts. It leads right into the next point.

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Primary interference. The head of the Democratic

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Congressional Campaign Committee, the DCCC, Representative

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Susan Delban. From Washington State, yeah. She's

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explicitly saying she plans to meddle in Democratic

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primaries in these crucial swing districts. Meddle.

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That sounds controversial within the party. Why

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do it? Her stated goal is pretty blunt. Make

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sure the strongest possible general election

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candidate wins the primary. And in her view,

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that almost always means a moderate, somebody

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like Abigail Spanberger. Not a progressive, like

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Zoran Mamdani. Exactly. She calls them Spanberger

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clones versus Mamdani clones. The strategy is

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clear. In districts, Democrats absolutely need

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to win for a majority. They want the candidate

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perceived as having the broadest appeal. Will

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she interfere everywhere? No, she drew a line.

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She said she won't get involved in safe blue

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districts, like D plus 10 or more. But in the

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toss -ups, the swing seats, progressives are

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basically being told, maybe sit this one out

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if you think you can't win the general. The priority

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is majority, full stop. OK, maps, candidates.

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What about the actual plumbing of the elections,

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the infrastructure? There was some concerning

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news there. Yeah, this is really worrying. Federal

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agencies, specifically CISA, the Cybersecurity

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and Infrastructure Security Agency, are apparently

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pulling back from helping state and local governments

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with election security. Why is that a problem?

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Don't states run their own elections? They do,

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but many local election offices have tiny budgets,

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like almost no money and certainly no cybersecurity

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experts on staff. They relied on federal help

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for threat assessment, monitoring physical security

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advice. And that help is going away. What specific

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cuts are happening? The cuts sound pretty drastic.

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The CISA election monitoring room, which was

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like a central hub that's being closed, there

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was something called the Election Infrastructure

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Information Sharing and Analysis Center, EI -ISAC,

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which gave real -time threat info to local officials.

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Funding zeroed out. Gone. And get this. The CISA

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staff, who actually monitored election equipment

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for vulnerabilities, laid off. So who is doing

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the monitoring? Well, instead of monitoring the

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machines, CISA apparently sent monitors to California

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and New Jersey to... Observe voters. Observe

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voters, not the voting machines or the networks.

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That's a huge shift in focus. It's a massive

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shift away from infrastructure defense towards

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something else entirely, and it leaves a huge

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gap. Who fills that gap? If the feds aren't helping

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and local offices can't afford it. That's the

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million dollar question. Effectively... Maybe

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no one is watching the perimeter as closely.

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And this is where the foreign interference risk

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comes back in, connecting weirdly to the tariff

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stuff we discussed. The sources pointed out that

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foreign adversaries, Russia, China, Iran, whoever,

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they don't necessarily root for Republican or

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Democrat. They root for their interests. Right.

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Predictability, maybe? Or getting rid of someone

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seen as erratic. Exactly. If a foreign power

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sees the current U .S. leadership as, say, unpredictable

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on trade. or maybe careless with nuclear policy.

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They might want regime change, regardless of

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party, and a suddenly weakened, unmonitored election

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infrastructure. That looks like a pretty tempting

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target if you want to sow chaos or influence

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the outcome. Wow. OK, so that's a lot we've covered.

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Let's try to pull it together. We hit three main

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areas right. First, the economy is still king

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in messaging, and the blame for high prices seems

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to be landing on Trump's tariffs. Second, the

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Supreme Court seems poised to significantly limit

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the president's power to impose those tariffs

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unilaterally, potentially reasserting Congress's

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authority. And third, The parties are already

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fighting tooth and nail over the future battlefield

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redrawing maps, trying to control who gets nominated

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in key districts. And worryingly, the federal

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government seems to be stepping back from securing

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the actual election infrastructure itself. Which

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brings us to that final provocative thought.

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We heard the Supreme Court justices questioning

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the emergency tariff power by asking, could a

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president use this for climate change? Yeah,

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that hypothetical about taxing gas guzzling cars.

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So if the court does rule against the administration

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here, using the major questions doctrine to say

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no, you need clear congressional approval for

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big economic actions under an emergency. Does

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that signal a broader shift? Could the court

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become equally skeptical of any claimed national

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emergency, maybe related to election security,

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or something else entirely if a president tries

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to use it to bypass Congress for major policy

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changes? That's a really interesting question.

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If they're saying major questions require clear

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statutes for economic emergencies, why wouldn't

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that apply to other types of declared emergencies

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where a president tries to act alone on something

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huge? It could mean the court is really trying

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to force power back to the legislative branch

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across the board, pulling back on decades of

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growing executive authority. It might fundamentally

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change the playbook for how presidents respond

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to crises, forcing them to work with Congress

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rather than around it. Definitely something to

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watch. Something for you to mull over. Thanks

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for joining us for this deep dive into the source

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material. See you next time.
