WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.980 Welcome to the Deep Dive. We've got a really 00:00:02.980 --> 00:00:05.780 potent mix of sources in front of us today. It's 00:00:05.780 --> 00:00:07.360 quite the stack. Yeah, it really is. We're looking 00:00:07.360 --> 00:00:11.679 at these urgent reports on the government shutdown's 00:00:11.679 --> 00:00:16.039 immediate impact right alongside a really detailed 00:00:16.039 --> 00:00:18.780 fact check of major policy announcement. And 00:00:18.780 --> 00:00:21.940 some pretty striking examples of political maneuvering 00:00:21.940 --> 00:00:25.949 shifting communication standards. It's a lot. 00:00:26.289 --> 00:00:27.809 So our mission here is pretty straightforward 00:00:27.809 --> 00:00:29.989 We want to quickly give you the core facts help 00:00:29.989 --> 00:00:31.989 you You know cut through all the rhetoric and 00:00:31.989 --> 00:00:34.570 really understand the tangible consequences from 00:00:34.570 --> 00:00:38.310 like global nuclear policy way up here down to 00:00:38.310 --> 00:00:40.469 well Whether your neighbor can buy groceries 00:00:40.469 --> 00:00:43.210 this weekend. Oh connecting those dots. Okay, 00:00:43.210 --> 00:00:45.189 let's start with the most urgent thing It's Friday 00:00:45.189 --> 00:00:47.770 October 31st and the sources are screaming about 00:00:47.770 --> 00:00:50.630 this deadline for SNAP benefits expiring tomorrow 00:00:50.630 --> 00:00:53.609 SNAP the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program 00:00:53.710 --> 00:00:56.130 And yeah, screaming feels about right. This is 00:00:56.130 --> 00:00:59.090 huge. We're talking about 42 million Americans 00:00:59.090 --> 00:01:01.469 potentially losing vital support overnight. 42 00:01:01.469 --> 00:01:04.390 million. Yeah. Children, seniors, people with 00:01:04.390 --> 00:01:07.189 disabilities, veterans. And in Pennsylvania alone, 00:01:07.670 --> 00:01:10.069 the sources estimate about 2 million residents. 00:01:10.650 --> 00:01:14.390 2 million just in PA, facing losing funds for 00:01:14.390 --> 00:01:17.659 what? Milk? bread, fruits, the absolute basics. 00:01:18.099 --> 00:01:19.840 Exactly. And the panic is already setting in. 00:01:19.900 --> 00:01:21.980 We've got comments from faith leaders on the 00:01:21.980 --> 00:01:24.000 ground. Right, like Reverend Matthew Best in 00:01:24.000 --> 00:01:26.959 Harrisburg. He mentions seeing a big spike in 00:01:26.959 --> 00:01:29.239 worried emails, people stopping by the church, 00:01:29.560 --> 00:01:31.319 and are terrified about losing these funds come 00:01:31.319 --> 00:01:33.780 Saturday. And what's really crucial here, I think, 00:01:34.219 --> 00:01:36.879 is pushing back against the stigma. There's data 00:01:36.879 --> 00:01:38.780 from the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities. 00:01:38.879 --> 00:01:40.680 Oh, yeah. What did that show? It showed that 00:01:40.680 --> 00:01:44.219 85 % of families getting SNIP actually had at 00:01:44.219 --> 00:01:47.319 least one person working in the last year. 85%. 00:01:47.319 --> 00:01:49.799 Right. So the narrative that it's people who 00:01:49.799 --> 00:01:52.420 just don't want to work, it doesn't hold water. 00:01:52.519 --> 00:01:54.219 And for those who aren't working. Often it's 00:01:54.219 --> 00:01:57.780 health issues, disabilities, or just the crushing 00:01:57.780 --> 00:02:00.420 cost of child care, things preventing them from 00:02:00.420 --> 00:02:02.900 working, not a lack of desire. Reverend Bess 00:02:02.900 --> 00:02:04.620 also made that point about how close so many 00:02:04.620 --> 00:02:07.420 of us are to this, didn't he? He did. Said something 00:02:07.420 --> 00:02:10.280 like, most Americans are just a paycheck or two 00:02:10.280 --> 00:02:14.060 away. And the stats back it up, only about 46 00:02:14.060 --> 00:02:17.419 % have even three months of emergency savings. 00:02:17.759 --> 00:02:20.360 Wow. So one bad break, one medical bill. And 00:02:20.360 --> 00:02:22.240 you're right there. It makes this crisis feel 00:02:22.240 --> 00:02:24.860 much closer to home for everyone, you know. Let's 00:02:24.860 --> 00:02:27.860 stick with the human side. Councilman Ralph Rodriguez 00:02:27.860 --> 00:02:30.860 in Harrisburg shared his own story. Yeah, about 00:02:30.860 --> 00:02:33.219 growing up using the old food stamps, the actual 00:02:33.219 --> 00:02:34.879 coupons. He said it was the difference between 00:02:34.879 --> 00:02:37.539 a hot meal and going hungry. But he also talked 00:02:37.539 --> 00:02:41.080 about the embarrassment he felt using them as 00:02:41.080 --> 00:02:43.340 a kid. And that connects to Elizabeth Austin's 00:02:43.340 --> 00:02:45.659 piece from Books County. Really powerful. She 00:02:45.659 --> 00:02:47.900 talked about needing SNAP -E when her kid's father 00:02:47.900 --> 00:02:50.719 left, and then again, losing her job while her 00:02:50.719 --> 00:02:53.539 daughter had cancer. Yeah. Just an impossible 00:02:53.539 --> 00:02:55.939 situation. And she used that phrase, feeling 00:02:55.939 --> 00:02:58.759 a blanket of shame at the checkout. It just obliterates 00:02:58.759 --> 00:03:01.219 that whole just get a job line, doesn't it? Completely 00:03:01.219 --> 00:03:03.960 misses the mark. Ignores the messy reality of 00:03:03.960 --> 00:03:07.419 people's lives. OK, so that's... the human cost, 00:03:07.500 --> 00:03:10.000 the urgency. Now, let's look at the political 00:03:10.000 --> 00:03:13.259 side, the inaction allowing this. There's this 00:03:13.259 --> 00:03:15.840 story involving Senator John Thune. Ah, yes, 00:03:15.960 --> 00:03:18.340 the schadenfreude moment, as one source called 00:03:18.340 --> 00:03:21.819 it. Joy and misfortune. So Thunes identified 00:03:21.819 --> 00:03:23.879 as one of the key people with Trump, Speaker 00:03:23.879 --> 00:03:26.419 Johnson, who could actually help resolve the 00:03:26.419 --> 00:03:29.580 shutdown, right? Stop this SNAP crisis. Mm -hmm. 00:03:29.759 --> 00:03:32.180 Talk three with the power. But when asked about 00:03:32.180 --> 00:03:34.400 working through the weekend to fix it, he basically 00:03:34.400 --> 00:03:37.050 said... A waste of time. His words. Right. Waste 00:03:37.050 --> 00:03:39.229 of time. So he finishes up in the Senate, rushes 00:03:39.229 --> 00:03:41.409 off to Reagan National Airport. Yep. Heading 00:03:41.409 --> 00:03:43.789 home to South Dakota. Only to find his flight 00:03:43.789 --> 00:03:47.469 delayed by 90 minutes. And the reason for the 00:03:47.469 --> 00:03:49.969 delay. You can't make this up. Go on. Not enough 00:03:49.969 --> 00:03:52.189 air traffic controllers working. Yeah. Because 00:03:52.189 --> 00:03:54.409 of the government shutdown. Oh, God. The very 00:03:54.409 --> 00:03:57.129 shutdown he said wasn't worth his weekend. Grounded 00:03:57.129 --> 00:04:00.430 his own flight. Wow. OK. That's something. So. 00:04:00.780 --> 00:04:03.020 While there's this failure to act on domestic 00:04:03.020 --> 00:04:06.219 needs, we see this huge kind of aggressive global 00:04:06.219 --> 00:04:08.939 posturing. That's exactly. Let's shift gears 00:04:08.939 --> 00:04:10.860 to that nuclear weapons tweet. The announcement 00:04:10.860 --> 00:04:13.719 about resuming testing. First time in over 30 00:04:13.719 --> 00:04:16.579 years. Posted on a personal social media account. 00:04:17.420 --> 00:04:19.860 Instructing the Department of War. Yeah. The 00:04:19.860 --> 00:04:21.639 whole thing was just riddled with errors. It's 00:04:21.639 --> 00:04:23.500 almost like a masterclass in how not to announce 00:04:23.500 --> 00:04:25.620 policy. OK, let's break down the fact checks 00:04:25.620 --> 00:04:28.459 from the sources. Error one. The U .S. has the 00:04:28.459 --> 00:04:33.000 most nukes. False. Russia has more. Over 5 ,500. 00:04:33.699 --> 00:04:37.379 The U .S. is just over 5 ,000. So wrong on count 00:04:37.379 --> 00:04:40.379 one. Error two. Claiming the weapons were all 00:04:40.379 --> 00:04:42.360 updated and renovated during his first term. 00:04:42.600 --> 00:04:45.459 Mostly false. The big recent modernization effort 00:04:45.459 --> 00:04:48.720 largely kicked off under Obama. Okay. Error three. 00:04:49.180 --> 00:04:51.480 China will be even with the U .S. in five years. 00:04:51.579 --> 00:04:54.040 Highly unlikely. Projections show China hitting 00:04:54.040 --> 00:04:57.279 maybe 1 ,000 warheads by 2030. Still a distant 00:04:57.279 --> 00:04:59.930 third. even, just isn't accurate based on any 00:04:59.930 --> 00:05:02.750 intelligence. Error four, the core idea resuming 00:05:02.750 --> 00:05:04.769 physical tests of warheads. Yeah, this is a big 00:05:04.769 --> 00:05:06.730 one. First, nobody's done it in 30 years except 00:05:06.730 --> 00:05:09.110 North Korea. Second, it's unnecessary. We have 00:05:09.110 --> 00:05:11.629 advanced lab tests, simulations. So why risk 00:05:11.629 --> 00:05:15.110 it? Exactly. The huge risk is reigniting a global 00:05:15.110 --> 00:05:17.370 arms race, something basically everyone wants 00:05:17.370 --> 00:05:20.870 to avoid. And error five, telling the wrong department 00:05:20.870 --> 00:05:23.699 to do it. Department of War. Right. Well, first, 00:05:23.860 --> 00:05:25.600 that department name hasn't existed for ages. 00:05:25.819 --> 00:05:28.639 It's the Department of Defense now. But more 00:05:28.639 --> 00:05:31.839 fundamentally. It's not even DOD's job. No. The 00:05:31.839 --> 00:05:34.579 nuclear stockpile, its safety, maintenance. That's 00:05:34.579 --> 00:05:36.879 the Department of Energy, specifically the National 00:05:36.879 --> 00:05:40.220 Nuclear Security Administration. It's just wrong 00:05:40.220 --> 00:05:43.319 on every level. So the timing. An hour before 00:05:43.319 --> 00:05:45.879 meeting Xi Jinping, what were the sources saying 00:05:45.879 --> 00:05:49.430 about why? Why release something so demonstrably 00:05:49.430 --> 00:05:51.550 flawed? Well, a few competing theories emerged 00:05:51.550 --> 00:05:54.689 from the analysis. One possibility, pure power 00:05:54.689 --> 00:05:57.370 play, art of the deal stuff, trying to look tough 00:05:57.370 --> 00:05:59.329 before the meeting, even if the deal was mostly 00:05:59.329 --> 00:06:02.329 done. Another thought was narrative change. There 00:06:02.329 --> 00:06:05.430 was chatter, got the short end of the stick on 00:06:05.430 --> 00:06:07.350 the China deal that was coming out. This tweet 00:06:07.350 --> 00:06:09.709 definitely changed the headlines. Shifted the 00:06:09.709 --> 00:06:12.519 focus. Yeah, but the theory that seemed... Maybe 00:06:12.519 --> 00:06:15.779 most plausible given the air was confusion. Possibly. 00:06:16.079 --> 00:06:18.680 Russia has been testing some new nuclear powered 00:06:18.680 --> 00:06:22.180 missiles, not warheads. A key distinction. Maybe 00:06:22.180 --> 00:06:25.579 that got garbled or deliberately conflated. Or 00:06:25.579 --> 00:06:29.399 maybe even like Mejia nostalgia, that 1950s better 00:06:29.399 --> 00:06:31.939 dead than red nuclear testing vibe that was floated 00:06:31.939 --> 00:06:36.240 to. Regardless of the exact why, the what is 00:06:36.240 --> 00:06:39.560 striking. Five major factual errors rolled into 00:06:39.560 --> 00:06:41.819 one announcement. It suggests the facts themselves 00:06:41.819 --> 00:06:44.459 are secondary, right? The posture is the point. 00:06:44.860 --> 00:06:47.639 Exactly. Posturing over policy. Details don't 00:06:47.639 --> 00:06:50.860 matter as much as the dramatic declaration. pattern 00:06:50.860 --> 00:06:53.360 that sort of willful disregard for verifiable 00:06:53.360 --> 00:06:56.019 fact connects directly to our next bit here. 00:06:56.259 --> 00:06:58.480 Source is drawing paralyzed to Orwell's 1984. 00:06:58.800 --> 00:07:00.519 Right. The whole reject the evidence of your 00:07:00.519 --> 00:07:02.660 eyes and ears command. It feels very relevant 00:07:02.660 --> 00:07:04.240 to some of the political communication we're 00:07:04.240 --> 00:07:06.500 seeing. Aggressive spin, maybe even gaslighting. 00:07:06.620 --> 00:07:08.699 Let's look at examples. Speaker Mike Johnson 00:07:08.699 --> 00:07:11.740 on the shutdown. He said Democrats are required 00:07:11.740 --> 00:07:13.600 to open the government. Said Republicans were 00:07:13.600 --> 00:07:15.519 helpless, needed 60 votes in the Senate. OK, 00:07:15.519 --> 00:07:17.480 but technically you do need 60 votes to break 00:07:17.480 --> 00:07:19.399 a Senate filibuster, right? So isn't he just 00:07:19.399 --> 00:07:22.550 stating a fact. Ah, but that's the new speak 00:07:22.550 --> 00:07:26.089 aspect. He frames it like the 60 vote rule is 00:07:26.089 --> 00:07:29.170 some external force imposed by Democrats, making 00:07:29.170 --> 00:07:32.209 Republicans powerless. When actually. When actually 00:07:32.209 --> 00:07:34.509 Republicans have options they control. They can 00:07:34.509 --> 00:07:36.610 negotiate a bill differently to get 60 votes, 00:07:36.889 --> 00:07:39.430 maybe attract some moderates, or more drastically, 00:07:39.529 --> 00:07:41.329 they could just get rid of the filibuster rule 00:07:41.329 --> 00:07:44.350 itself for legislation. So he's presenting a 00:07:44.350 --> 00:07:46.529 choice they could make as an obstacle someone 00:07:46.529 --> 00:07:50.000 else put there. deflecting accountability. Precisely. 00:07:50.220 --> 00:07:52.800 It's spin that claims helplessness while ignoring 00:07:52.800 --> 00:07:55.620 their own agency. Then there is DHS Secretary 00:07:55.620 --> 00:07:58.500 Kristi Noem. This quote was pretty direct. Yes. 00:07:58.560 --> 00:08:01.120 Stating flat out, there's no American citizens 00:08:01.120 --> 00:08:03.480 that have been arrested or detained. Anything 00:08:03.480 --> 00:08:05.480 that you would hear or report that would be different 00:08:05.480 --> 00:08:07.660 than that is simply not true and false reporting. 00:08:07.819 --> 00:08:12.069 Wow. Just deny reality entirely. If reports contradict 00:08:12.069 --> 00:08:14.269 the official line, the reports must be false. 00:08:14.430 --> 00:08:16.769 It's that core Orwellian thing, isn't it? Telling 00:08:16.769 --> 00:08:19.750 you to distrust what you might see or hear elsewhere. 00:08:20.069 --> 00:08:22.329 Trust only the authority. And the last one, the 00:08:22.329 --> 00:08:25.250 Nobel Prize claim. This one was just out there. 00:08:25.610 --> 00:08:28.449 Oh, yeah. Energy Secretary Chris Wright and was 00:08:28.449 --> 00:08:31.089 amplified by Trump, claiming a Nobel Prize in 00:08:31.089 --> 00:08:33.690 physics for quantum computing work meant, quote, 00:08:33.960 --> 00:08:37.200 Trump 47 racks up his first Nobel Prize. But 00:08:37.200 --> 00:08:41.059 the work was done when? 1984 and 1985. Decades 00:08:41.059 --> 00:08:43.980 ago. Yeah. The source just dryly notes that presidents 00:08:43.980 --> 00:08:48.019 don't get to, like, co -own Nobels one during 00:08:48.019 --> 00:08:50.039 their term. It's claiming credit for something 00:08:50.039 --> 00:08:52.919 completely unrelated, separated by decades, just 00:08:52.919 --> 00:08:56.059 asserting a win. Facts optional. Chronology optional. 00:08:56.139 --> 00:08:58.379 Great. Let's use this idea of aggressive communication 00:08:58.379 --> 00:09:00.559 and look at political positioning. The New York 00:09:00.559 --> 00:09:04.080 governor's race. High stakes. Definitely. You've 00:09:04.080 --> 00:09:06.799 got Elise Stefanik, who rose fast in GOP leadership 00:09:06.799 --> 00:09:09.440 after Liz Cheney was ousted, now aiming for governor 00:09:09.440 --> 00:09:12.690 in a very blue state. New York is rated D plus 00:09:12.690 --> 00:09:15.070 eight. D plus eight, meaning Democrats usually 00:09:15.070 --> 00:09:17.610 win statewide by about eight points. Tough climb 00:09:17.610 --> 00:09:19.649 for a Republican. Very tough. She has resources, 00:09:19.870 --> 00:09:21.750 though. Thirteen million dollars banked. The 00:09:21.750 --> 00:09:23.889 Trump machine behind her. His top pollster, Tony 00:09:23.889 --> 00:09:26.350 Fabrizio. But the history. New York's only had 00:09:26.350 --> 00:09:29.250 one Republican governor in 50 years. George Pataki, 00:09:29.289 --> 00:09:32.250 who is pretty moderate. Right. And Trump himself 00:09:32.250 --> 00:09:34.529 hasn't done great there, polling wise. Thirty 00:09:34.529 --> 00:09:36.470 seven to forty three percent in recent elections. 00:09:36.690 --> 00:09:38.990 So what makes this race interesting, then? The 00:09:38.990 --> 00:09:40.899 polling. Yeah, the polling is where it gets weird. 00:09:41.460 --> 00:09:44.000 Governor Kathy Hochul, the incumbent Democrat, 00:09:44.440 --> 00:09:48.000 doesn't pull great against a generic anyone else. 00:09:48.480 --> 00:09:51.480 But against Stefanik specifically, Hochul usually 00:09:51.480 --> 00:09:54.759 leads. Usually. Usually. But there's this one 00:09:54.759 --> 00:09:56.919 poll, an outlier from the Manhattan Institute, 00:09:57.100 --> 00:09:59.279 that actually showed Stefanik slightly ahead, 00:09:59.840 --> 00:10:02.700 43 to 42 percent. Just one point, but still. 00:10:02.919 --> 00:10:05.500 OK, an outlier. But why is that specific poll 00:10:05.500 --> 00:10:08.690 so interesting? Because that same pollster, using 00:10:08.690 --> 00:10:11.769 presumably similar methods, also produced the 00:10:11.769 --> 00:10:14.730 best poll results for Zoran Momdani. The Democratic 00:10:14.730 --> 00:10:17.409 socialist who ran for NYC mayor? Exactly. An 00:10:17.409 --> 00:10:19.470 insurgent from the far left. Which leads to this 00:10:19.470 --> 00:10:21.669 fascinating theory in the source material. Which 00:10:21.669 --> 00:10:24.350 is? The potential existence of a Momdani Stefanik 00:10:24.350 --> 00:10:27.029 voter. Wait, what? How does that work? The idea 00:10:27.029 --> 00:10:29.029 is maybe there's a segment of voters who just 00:10:29.029 --> 00:10:31.840 want to shake things up. They crave disruption, 00:10:32.100 --> 00:10:34.700 insurgency, whether it comes from the far left 00:10:34.700 --> 00:10:36.799 like Mamdani or the far right like Stefanik. 00:10:37.179 --> 00:10:39.639 It's about breaking the status quo more than 00:10:39.639 --> 00:10:42.960 ideology. Huh. So attacking Mamdani's ideology 00:10:42.960 --> 00:10:45.500 might not be the slam dunk Stefanik hopes for 00:10:45.500 --> 00:10:48.480 if some voters are drawn to both kinds of insurgency. 00:10:48.860 --> 00:10:51.000 Potentially, yeah. It's an intriguing wrinkle 00:10:51.000 --> 00:10:52.700 anyway. It makes the race less straightforward. 00:10:53.379 --> 00:10:56.440 OK, we spent a lot of time on conflict, spin. 00:10:56.809 --> 00:10:59.470 Bad news, basically. Let's shift for the end. 00:10:59.669 --> 00:11:01.909 There's this concept mentioned, Freud and Freud. 00:11:02.309 --> 00:11:04.590 Yeah, the opposite of Schadenfreude. Finding 00:11:04.590 --> 00:11:07.889 joy in other people's joy. A nice counterpoint 00:11:07.889 --> 00:11:09.990 to all the antagonism. And the example comes 00:11:09.990 --> 00:11:13.090 from Pope Leo and Catholicos Patriarch Wa the 00:11:13.090 --> 00:11:16.529 Third. Right. Two major global Christian leaders. 00:11:16.610 --> 00:11:18.830 And you have to remember the history here. Tiny 00:11:18.830 --> 00:11:20.950 differences in doctrine between their predecessors 00:11:20.950 --> 00:11:24.970 churches led to centuries of, well, Actual violent 00:11:24.970 --> 00:11:27.429 conflict. Wars were fought over this stuff. Okay, 00:11:27.850 --> 00:11:30.429 serious historical baggage. Huge baggage. But 00:11:30.429 --> 00:11:33.230 in their meeting, Owe III apparently made a joke 00:11:33.230 --> 00:11:36.590 at Pope Leo's expense about being a Chicago White 00:11:36.590 --> 00:11:39.750 Sox fan. Just a gentle ribbing. Exactly. A light 00:11:39.750 --> 00:11:42.690 -hearted personal jab amidst this moment of, 00:11:42.690 --> 00:11:45.129 you know, significant ecumenical progress. What's 00:11:45.129 --> 00:11:48.340 the insight there? It's that despite disagreeing 00:11:48.340 --> 00:11:51.419 on really fundamental historical points of doctrine 00:11:51.419 --> 00:11:53.820 things, people literally killed each other over. 00:11:54.320 --> 00:11:56.460 They both understand they're fundamentally on, 00:11:56.460 --> 00:11:59.799 let's say, team Jesus. Focused on a bigger picture. 00:12:00.039 --> 00:12:02.580 Right. Shared goals. Making the world better, 00:12:02.600 --> 00:12:05.320 more humane. They showed you can disagree even 00:12:05.320 --> 00:12:07.799 profoundly without being disagreeable. Yeah. 00:12:08.059 --> 00:12:10.419 And that humor, that shared humanity is vital. 00:12:10.590 --> 00:12:12.549 OK, so wrapping this all up for you, the listener, 00:12:12.730 --> 00:12:15.110 we've gone from the devastating immediate impact 00:12:15.110 --> 00:12:17.909 of the SNF P cuts hitting families this weekend, 00:12:17.950 --> 00:12:21.570 all the way to global nuclear posturing based 00:12:21.570 --> 00:12:24.610 on, frankly, falsehoods and this really aggressive 00:12:24.610 --> 00:12:26.889 political spin designed to override reality. 00:12:27.149 --> 00:12:28.990 And then this contrast right between the political 00:12:28.990 --> 00:12:31.570 sphere, where facts seem optional and spin is 00:12:31.570 --> 00:12:33.610 king. And this example from the religious sphere. 00:12:34.039 --> 00:12:36.679 Leaders with centuries of conflict behind them, 00:12:36.919 --> 00:12:39.320 finding common ground, shared mission, even sharing 00:12:39.320 --> 00:12:41.980 a joke. The stakes feel incredibly high everywhere 00:12:41.980 --> 00:12:44.820 right now. Political failures have real painful 00:12:44.820 --> 00:12:48.559 consequences, as we see with SNAP. Reconciling 00:12:48.559 --> 00:12:50.840 deep divisions seems almost impossible sometimes. 00:12:51.139 --> 00:12:52.779 So the final thought we want to leave you with 00:12:52.779 --> 00:12:56.460 is this. If Pope Leo and Patriarch Alito III, 00:12:56.980 --> 00:12:59.500 with all that history, can find a way to focus 00:12:59.500 --> 00:13:02.820 on shared goals, value good humor, and disagree 00:13:02.820 --> 00:13:05.080 without hostility. What lesson can we take from 00:13:05.080 --> 00:13:08.759 that? In this age of polarization and just information 00:13:08.759 --> 00:13:11.360 chaos, how vital is finding that common ground, 00:13:11.519 --> 00:13:13.779 that touch of humor and humanity, even when the 00:13:13.779 --> 00:13:15.600 disagreements, whether they're political or doctrinal, 00:13:15.759 --> 00:13:18.039 feel monumentally important? Something to think 00:13:18.039 --> 00:13:18.279 about.