WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.160 Welcome to the Deep Dive. This is where we help 00:00:02.160 --> 00:00:04.980 you get truly well informed, fast, we sift through 00:00:04.980 --> 00:00:06.719 the sources, cut out the noise, and give you 00:00:06.719 --> 00:00:10.419 the key insights. Today, we've got quite a mix. 00:00:10.599 --> 00:00:12.560 International politics, some high stakes court 00:00:12.560 --> 00:00:14.800 drama, the future of energy, even the nuts and 00:00:14.800 --> 00:00:17.699 bolts of democracy itself. It's a lot, but it's 00:00:17.699 --> 00:00:21.309 all connected. Let's dive in. Okay, so first 00:00:21.309 --> 00:00:24.089 up this interesting situation in the UK, you 00:00:24.089 --> 00:00:25.769 know The Brits have this reputation right for 00:00:25.769 --> 00:00:28.170 like the subtle snub that passive aggression 00:00:28.170 --> 00:00:29.809 thing I saw this quote on threads was perfect 00:00:29.809 --> 00:00:32.130 One thing I love about being British is the level 00:00:32.130 --> 00:00:34.929 of petty we go to if JD thinks he's been wronged 00:00:34.929 --> 00:00:36.829 Wait till you see what we have planned And the 00:00:36.829 --> 00:00:39.770 JD here is JD fans. So the big story was him 00:00:39.770 --> 00:00:41.649 and his wife, Usha, trying to go to the bullpub 00:00:41.649 --> 00:00:44.829 in Oxfordshire. And they got turned away. What 00:00:44.829 --> 00:00:46.689 really went down there? Why did that blow up? 00:00:46.770 --> 00:00:48.149 Well, yeah, it's fascinating, because the story 00:00:48.149 --> 00:00:52.149 itself is disputed. The first reports, they were 00:00:52.149 --> 00:00:54.609 all about a staff rebellion, staff saying they 00:00:54.609 --> 00:00:56.270 wouldn't work if they had to serve the vances. 00:00:56.789 --> 00:00:59.590 But the pub management, they haven't confirmed 00:00:59.590 --> 00:01:02.490 or denied that. Very tight lipped. It's also 00:01:02.490 --> 00:01:04.269 possible it was just practical. I mean, a big 00:01:04.269 --> 00:01:06.750 entourage like that, it could. basically shut 00:01:06.750 --> 00:01:08.689 the place down for regular customers, kill their 00:01:08.689 --> 00:01:11.049 profits for the night. Right. But the contrast 00:01:11.049 --> 00:01:13.329 is stark, because Kamala Harris went to that 00:01:13.329 --> 00:01:16.230 exact same pub last year, Secret Service, the 00:01:16.230 --> 00:01:19.349 whole deal, and she got seated. So it does make 00:01:19.349 --> 00:01:21.329 you wonder. It does. And it wasn't just the pub 00:01:21.329 --> 00:01:25.730 incident. The sources talk about other unambiguous 00:01:25.730 --> 00:01:29.239 Vance disdain. There were protest signs around, 00:01:29.299 --> 00:01:31.120 apparently a van driving about with critical 00:01:31.120 --> 00:01:33.120 messages. Even the owner of the house they rented 00:01:33.120 --> 00:01:35.099 supposedly apologized to the neighbors afterwards. 00:01:35.519 --> 00:01:38.079 Wow. OK, so connecting this to the bigger picture, 00:01:38.219 --> 00:01:40.359 then, it sounds like his unpopularity over there 00:01:40.359 --> 00:01:43.420 is, well, pretty real. And these stories, the 00:01:43.420 --> 00:01:46.700 photos, they spread super fast back here in the 00:01:46.700 --> 00:01:48.900 U .S. and Canada. What did that international 00:01:48.900 --> 00:01:51.180 view actually mean for his political future, 00:01:51.200 --> 00:01:53.379 you think? That's the key question, isn't it? 00:01:53.480 --> 00:01:56.560 The analysis we looked at suggests Vance generates 00:01:57.760 --> 00:02:01.159 Trump levels of loathing and scorn from one side, 00:02:01.500 --> 00:02:03.599 but crucially not the same kind of fanatical 00:02:03.599 --> 00:02:05.359 support from the other side to balance it out. 00:02:05.519 --> 00:02:07.620 And it shows how quickly that international perception 00:02:07.620 --> 00:02:10.180 can, you know, bleed back into domestic politics. 00:02:10.300 --> 00:02:12.879 The sources say it does not presage good things 00:02:12.879 --> 00:02:15.439 for his presidential ambitions. Yeah. So the 00:02:15.439 --> 00:02:17.620 takeaway for us and for you listening is how 00:02:17.620 --> 00:02:20.180 linked global and domestic politics are now. 00:02:20.520 --> 00:02:22.740 A pub incident in England suddenly becomes a 00:02:22.740 --> 00:02:24.759 data point for U .S. presidential watchers. It 00:02:24.759 --> 00:02:27.569 really makes you ask how much more Or will this 00:02:27.569 --> 00:02:30.849 kind of thing sway politics here? OK, a stark 00:02:30.849 --> 00:02:34.449 reminder indeed. Let's pivot now. From international 00:02:34.449 --> 00:02:36.370 stages to our own courtrooms, different kind 00:02:36.370 --> 00:02:38.729 of drama. Specifically, that New York state appeals 00:02:38.729 --> 00:02:41.009 court ruling, the fraud case against Donald Trump 00:02:41.009 --> 00:02:42.949 and his businesses, that decision took a while, 00:02:43.150 --> 00:02:45.050 right? Oh, absolutely. Not quick at all. We're 00:02:45.050 --> 00:02:48.229 talking 11 months. Five judges deliberating. 00:02:48.689 --> 00:02:51.210 And the result was, well, they're calling it 00:02:51.210 --> 00:02:52.990 a brokered outcome, three separate opinions. 00:02:53.370 --> 00:02:56.800 But the main points are clear. the original trial 00:02:56.800 --> 00:02:59.659 court finding that Trump and his associates committed 00:02:59.659 --> 00:03:03.020 fraud. That was affirmed, upheld. And the injunctions, 00:03:03.199 --> 00:03:05.300 you know, banning Trump execs from being officers 00:03:05.300 --> 00:03:07.139 or directors of New York companies for a few 00:03:07.139 --> 00:03:09.180 years, two years for Don Jr. and Eric, three 00:03:09.180 --> 00:03:12.000 for Trump himself, also upheld. But, and this 00:03:12.000 --> 00:03:14.939 is the big but, that huge penalty, the $464 million, 00:03:15.199 --> 00:03:16.960 that got tossed out. Can you just quickly remind 00:03:16.960 --> 00:03:18.699 us where that investigation started? Michael 00:03:18.699 --> 00:03:21.780 Cohen's testimony, wasn't it? Exactly. It stemmed 00:03:21.780 --> 00:03:24.340 from Cohen testifying that the Trump organization 00:03:24.340 --> 00:03:27.960 routinely inflated asset values to get loans 00:03:27.960 --> 00:03:31.960 and then deflated them for tax purposes. Standard 00:03:31.960 --> 00:03:34.939 stuff, according to him. As for overturning the 00:03:34.939 --> 00:03:36.639 money part, the Emile's court said it was an 00:03:36.639 --> 00:03:39.080 excessive fine. That's the Eighth Amendment argument 00:03:39.080 --> 00:03:41.219 because the money was going to the state not 00:03:41.219 --> 00:03:43.960 to compensate specific victims. And they also 00:03:43.960 --> 00:03:46.000 said, well, you can't really separate the legitimate 00:03:46.000 --> 00:03:49.060 profits from the fraudulent ones cleanly. Now, 00:03:49.159 --> 00:03:51.319 New York AG Letitia James says she'll appeal 00:03:51.319 --> 00:03:54.819 that part. And sources say she's got a good shot 00:03:54.819 --> 00:03:57.139 because appeals courts usually defer to lower 00:03:57.139 --> 00:04:00.300 courts on factual findings. Right. So Trump immediately 00:04:00.300 --> 00:04:02.800 claimed total victory. Of course. But the reality 00:04:02.800 --> 00:04:05.199 is the core fraud finding against his company 00:04:05.199 --> 00:04:07.699 stands and some pretty tough penalties like that 00:04:07.699 --> 00:04:10.419 monitor overseeing his New York business still 00:04:10.419 --> 00:04:13.319 in place. So not quite the clean win claimed. 00:04:13.400 --> 00:04:16.319 OK. And speaking of Trump's legal team, Alina 00:04:16.319 --> 00:04:18.939 Habba, she was his lawyer at that trial, and 00:04:18.939 --> 00:04:20.860 she's just faced her own legal setback, a pretty 00:04:20.860 --> 00:04:24.240 significant one. Yes, quite significant. So Habba 00:04:24.240 --> 00:04:26.300 was put in as interim U .S. attorney for New 00:04:26.300 --> 00:04:29.720 Jersey. But after the normal 120 days, the district 00:04:29.720 --> 00:04:31.959 judges there basically said, no continuance. 00:04:32.000 --> 00:04:34.639 They rejected extending her role. The administration 00:04:34.639 --> 00:04:37.120 then tried to work around naming her acting attorney, 00:04:37.420 --> 00:04:39.699 but some defendants challenged her authority 00:04:39.699 --> 00:04:43.040 to even hold that position. And Chief Judge Matthew 00:04:43.040 --> 00:04:45.579 Brann, who interestingly is a Republican appointed 00:04:45.579 --> 00:04:49.160 by Obama, he wrote this really detailed 77 -page 00:04:49.160 --> 00:04:51.420 ruling found that Hobbit is not lawfully holding 00:04:51.420 --> 00:04:53.420 the office of United States attorney, period. 00:04:53.980 --> 00:04:57.060 And crucially, that her actions since July 1st 00:04:57.060 --> 00:04:59.680 may be declared void. That covers a lot of ground. 00:05:00.019 --> 00:05:02.120 Think about indictments, other legal actions. 00:05:02.500 --> 00:05:04.540 Wow. And Habba's response. I saw she went on 00:05:04.540 --> 00:05:06.779 Sean Hannity. Yeah. Blamed activist judges said 00:05:06.779 --> 00:05:09.680 their job is respecting the president. OK. But 00:05:09.680 --> 00:05:11.939 this raises a huge question, right? If the White 00:05:11.939 --> 00:05:14.019 House loses the appeals on this Habba ruling, 00:05:14.740 --> 00:05:16.800 what are the wider implications? It could get 00:05:16.800 --> 00:05:21.300 really messy. Potentially. Several other acting 00:05:21.300 --> 00:05:23.720 U .S. attorneys appointed under similar circumstances 00:05:23.720 --> 00:05:25.980 across the country could also be found invalid. 00:05:26.120 --> 00:05:28.459 That would create just an enormous mess imagine 00:05:28.459 --> 00:05:30.560 trying to clean that up legally cases thrown 00:05:30.560 --> 00:05:34.060 out refiled and The mess just gets bigger every 00:05:34.060 --> 00:05:36.639 extra day it drags on it really can paralyze 00:05:36.639 --> 00:05:38.779 parts of the justice system It really underscores 00:05:38.779 --> 00:05:41.699 why the integrity of these appointments and processes 00:05:41.699 --> 00:05:45.699 is so fundamental. It's the bedrock Which actually 00:05:45.699 --> 00:05:48.839 leads us nicely into our next topic the foundations 00:05:48.839 --> 00:05:51.639 of electoral power Let's talk about the redistricting 00:05:51.639 --> 00:05:54.370 Derby. It's officially kicked off Starting in 00:05:54.370 --> 00:05:57.029 Texas, new maps, gerrymandered maps, just got 00:05:57.029 --> 00:05:58.769 approved by the State House and the key Senate 00:05:58.769 --> 00:06:00.629 committee. Looks like they're heading for full 00:06:00.629 --> 00:06:02.329 Senate approval. What's the immediate effect? 00:06:02.670 --> 00:06:04.410 Well, the immediate effect is pretty dramatic 00:06:04.410 --> 00:06:07.230 for some Democrats there. Representatives Greg 00:06:07.230 --> 00:06:09.629 Cesar and Lloyd Doggett, they've basically been 00:06:09.629 --> 00:06:12.790 drawn into the same district, TX 37. Doggett 00:06:12.790 --> 00:06:14.490 has already said he'll step down if the maps 00:06:14.490 --> 00:06:17.250 stand. And you also see Republican Chip Roy deciding 00:06:17.250 --> 00:06:19.939 to run for Texas Attorney General. Maybe because 00:06:19.939 --> 00:06:22.720 his new district got more Trumpy neighborhoods, 00:06:23.060 --> 00:06:25.500 making a primary challenge slightly riskier for 00:06:25.500 --> 00:06:27.899 him. And California saw this and responded almost 00:06:27.899 --> 00:06:30.779 immediately. Lawmakers approved Governor Newsom's 00:06:30.779 --> 00:06:33.600 plan to, well, temporarily gerrymander their 00:06:33.600 --> 00:06:36.000 maps. The idea is the independent commission 00:06:36.000 --> 00:06:39.139 gets the job back in 2032. Newsom was blunt. 00:06:39.579 --> 00:06:41.819 They fired the first shot, Texas. We wouldn't 00:06:41.819 --> 00:06:43.759 be here had Texas not done what they just did. 00:06:44.009 --> 00:06:46.149 So, for you listeners in California, that measures 00:06:46.149 --> 00:06:48.649 on the ballot November 4th. But the campaigning, 00:06:48.769 --> 00:06:50.850 the electioneering is already pretty intense, 00:06:51.009 --> 00:06:53.709 I hear. Oh, yeah. Flyers are out already. And 00:06:53.709 --> 00:06:55.569 they're designed very carefully to look like 00:06:55.569 --> 00:06:58.790 they're from a left -leaning group. But turns 00:06:58.790 --> 00:07:01.230 out they're funded by Charles T. Mugger Jr., 00:07:01.230 --> 00:07:03.769 who our sources describe as a far -right Trumper. 00:07:04.370 --> 00:07:07.269 His goal is pretty clear. Keep as many Republican 00:07:07.269 --> 00:07:10.990 seats in California safe as possible. It's quite 00:07:10.990 --> 00:07:13.550 the tactic. Deceptive, yeah. And Newsom's counter, 00:07:13.649 --> 00:07:15.750 he's pointing to Munger's donations, right? To 00:07:15.750 --> 00:07:18.810 anti -choice, anti -LGBTQ. Exactly. Trying to 00:07:18.810 --> 00:07:21.310 expose the agenda behind the seemingly progressive 00:07:21.310 --> 00:07:23.569 flyers. It's a messaging war. How's the money 00:07:23.569 --> 00:07:26.029 race looking? It's interesting. Newsom raised 00:07:26.029 --> 00:07:28.709 $6 .2 million really quickly from over 200 ,000 00:07:28.709 --> 00:07:31.949 people. Grassroots stuff. Munger, being a billionaire, 00:07:32.170 --> 00:07:35.250 could obviously drop a lot more cash. But that 00:07:35.250 --> 00:07:37.889 early grassroots surge for Newsom is notable. 00:07:38.110 --> 00:07:40.149 And it might tie into this bigger picture idea 00:07:40.149 --> 00:07:42.250 that maybe pure money doesn't guarantee wins 00:07:42.250 --> 00:07:44.430 in California ballot prox like it used to. Maybe 00:07:44.430 --> 00:07:47.389 over 90 percent predictability back then. But 00:07:47.389 --> 00:07:50.790 shifts in media, less network TV watching might 00:07:50.790 --> 00:07:52.709 be changing that game. Current polls actually 00:07:52.709 --> 00:07:55.149 show a Newsom side up by about 20 points. So 00:07:55.149 --> 00:07:57.790 money isn't everything, perhaps. So this gerrymandering 00:07:57.790 --> 00:08:00.170 fight feels like just the start, doesn't it? 00:08:00.470 --> 00:08:02.610 The opening salvo and a bigger power struggle. 00:08:03.089 --> 00:08:04.829 Our sources point to Republican efforts to hold 00:08:04.829 --> 00:08:08.310 power, sometimes with, quote, no scruples. You 00:08:08.310 --> 00:08:10.910 have Donald Trump saying, absurdly, that just 00:08:10.910 --> 00:08:13.329 eliminating mail and ballots would flip a hundred 00:08:13.329 --> 00:08:15.449 seats. That's agree. Which sounds like, you know, 00:08:15.670 --> 00:08:17.430 setting the stage to challenge Democratic wins 00:08:17.430 --> 00:08:20.310 later probably means a blizzard of post -election 00:08:20.310 --> 00:08:22.370 lawsuits, as one source put it. And then there's 00:08:22.370 --> 00:08:25.069 that Steve Bannon plan, which is described as 00:08:25.069 --> 00:08:28.170 truly evil, deploying Black Shirts ICE agents, 00:08:28.410 --> 00:08:31.170 his term, to polling places and areas with lots 00:08:31.170 --> 00:08:33.429 of immigrants. The term Black Shirts itself is 00:08:33.429 --> 00:08:35.649 obviously meant to intimidate, evoke fascism. 00:08:35.740 --> 00:08:38.220 It's aimed at deterring voters, he calls Larry. 00:08:39.340 --> 00:08:41.360 Now, legally, that plan should probably get shut 00:08:41.360 --> 00:08:43.740 down fast by a judge, but just talking about 00:08:43.740 --> 00:08:45.899 it can have a chilling effect. So the core issue 00:08:45.899 --> 00:08:48.059 here, for you listening, is about the fairness 00:08:48.059 --> 00:08:51.019 of the whole system. Voter access, the power 00:08:51.019 --> 00:08:53.519 of your vote. When the rules themselves are being 00:08:53.519 --> 00:08:56.440 fought over and potentially manipulated, it really 00:08:56.440 --> 00:08:58.320 strikes at the heart of representative democracy, 00:08:58.480 --> 00:09:01.320 OK, from fighting over ballots to something that 00:09:01.320 --> 00:09:04.720 hits every single household, energy. the future 00:09:04.720 --> 00:09:06.919 of it. And here's where it gets really interesting, 00:09:07.019 --> 00:09:08.559 because Donald Trump seems to have backed himself 00:09:08.559 --> 00:09:11.779 into a corner on this, a worst of both worlds 00:09:11.779 --> 00:09:15.500 situation. His clear dislike for renewables like 00:09:15.500 --> 00:09:19.379 solar and wind. Why? Who knows? Big oil. Just 00:09:19.379 --> 00:09:21.580 opposing anything Obama or Biden did, that wind 00:09:21.580 --> 00:09:23.539 farm thing near his golf course, whatever the 00:09:23.539 --> 00:09:26.159 reason. He's not a fan. But has he actually managed 00:09:26.159 --> 00:09:28.639 to stop the progress of clean energy? Well, that's 00:09:28.639 --> 00:09:30.559 the fascinating part, despite the rhetoric, despite 00:09:30.559 --> 00:09:33.009 some policy efforts. Solar power. especially 00:09:33.009 --> 00:09:35.009 just keeps marching forward. Pretty strongly, 00:09:35.049 --> 00:09:37.769 actually. The EIA, that's the Energy Information 00:09:37.769 --> 00:09:39.909 Administration, they predict the U .S. will add 00:09:39.909 --> 00:09:42.750 33 gigawatts of solar capacity just this year. 00:09:43.549 --> 00:09:46.350 That's a little over half of all new electricity 00:09:46.350 --> 00:09:49.850 generation capacity coming online in 2025 from 00:09:49.850 --> 00:09:52.070 all sources combined, including fossil fuels. 00:09:52.309 --> 00:09:56.129 OK, so why? If there's political pushback, why 00:09:56.129 --> 00:09:58.909 is solar still surging? What's the fundamental 00:09:58.909 --> 00:10:02.350 issue for Trump and big oil here? The fundamental 00:10:02.350 --> 00:10:04.830 issue is economics, really. Renewables are just 00:10:04.830 --> 00:10:07.009 becoming a smarter investment, simple as that. 00:10:07.330 --> 00:10:09.389 They're often cheaper or just more profitable 00:10:09.389 --> 00:10:11.750 than building new fossil fuel plants, especially 00:10:11.750 --> 00:10:13.870 when you plan these projects out for decades, 00:10:14.269 --> 00:10:16.809 which you have to. Investors look at the long 00:10:16.809 --> 00:10:19.409 term and the math for renewables is just getting 00:10:19.409 --> 00:10:21.389 better and better. Now here's the other half 00:10:21.389 --> 00:10:23.409 of that worst of both worlds problem we mentioned. 00:10:23.789 --> 00:10:26.399 If you actually try to slow down renewables. 00:10:26.580 --> 00:10:28.940 You're not just slowing renewables, you're slowing 00:10:28.940 --> 00:10:31.700 the overall growth of new energy supply, period. 00:10:32.320 --> 00:10:33.879 And this is happening right when electricity 00:10:33.879 --> 00:10:36.950 demand is going up, up, up. think crypto mining, 00:10:37.289 --> 00:10:40.389 population growth, and especially AI. AI is hugely 00:10:40.389 --> 00:10:42.789 energy hungry. Right. So let's break that down 00:10:42.789 --> 00:10:44.649 for you, the listener. It's pretty simple, isn't 00:10:44.649 --> 00:10:46.809 it? Demand goes way up. Supply doesn't keep pace 00:10:46.809 --> 00:10:48.730 because new sources are being deliberately slowed. 00:10:48.889 --> 00:10:51.610 What happens? Prices go up. Your energy bill 00:10:51.610 --> 00:10:54.250 gets higher. It creates an energy pinch right 00:10:54.250 --> 00:10:57.330 in your household budget. Exactly. There's an 00:10:57.330 --> 00:10:59.679 analysis from Energy Innovation that puts numbers 00:10:59.679 --> 00:11:02.580 on it. They estimate this failure to keep up 00:11:02.580 --> 00:11:04.600 with demand. It'll likely increase household 00:11:04.600 --> 00:11:07.200 energy prices by about 18 % over the next 10 00:11:07.200 --> 00:11:10.120 years. That's around $170 a year extra for the 00:11:10.120 --> 00:11:13.320 average family. And they also predict about 750 00:11:13.320 --> 00:11:16.090 ,000 jobs lost. because we're not fully investing 00:11:16.090 --> 00:11:18.710 in the renewable sector buildup. Real economic 00:11:18.710 --> 00:11:21.009 consequences. And the politics of that are pretty 00:11:21.009 --> 00:11:24.009 clear, too. An energy pinch hitting families, 00:11:24.470 --> 00:11:27.110 especially if you add in regular inflation, maybe 00:11:27.110 --> 00:11:30.289 effects from trade wars. Yeah, that could get 00:11:30.289 --> 00:11:32.389 pretty ugly, pretty fast for the president and 00:11:32.389 --> 00:11:34.649 his party, as one source put it. It becomes a 00:11:34.649 --> 00:11:37.389 major political vulnerability, not just an environmental 00:11:37.389 --> 00:11:39.909 issue. So quite a journey today in this deep 00:11:39.909 --> 00:11:43.820 dive. We went from British pub snubs and complex 00:11:43.820 --> 00:11:47.059 legal rulings to fierce battles over election 00:11:47.059 --> 00:11:50.080 maps and this quiet but hugely important shift 00:11:50.080 --> 00:11:51.919 happening in our energy system. Yeah, and it 00:11:51.919 --> 00:11:53.820 really highlights how connecting these different 00:11:53.820 --> 00:11:57.399 dots, politics, law, economics, technology, give 00:11:57.399 --> 00:11:59.179 you a much clearer picture of what's actually 00:11:59.179 --> 00:12:00.600 going on. They aren't separate stories. They're 00:12:00.600 --> 00:12:02.840 all interwoven. So what's the takeaway? It's 00:12:02.840 --> 00:12:05.940 a snapshot, really. A snapshot of just how dynamic 00:12:05.940 --> 00:12:08.580 and interconnected things are. Political ambition, 00:12:09.100 --> 00:12:12.460 legal fights, tech changes. They're all constantly 00:12:12.460 --> 00:12:14.840 reshaping the world around us and impacting you 00:12:14.840 --> 00:12:16.840 directly. And maybe a final thought to leave 00:12:16.840 --> 00:12:19.259 you with. Considering all these efforts we've 00:12:19.259 --> 00:12:21.399 seen to shape how you perceive things. Yeah. 00:12:21.700 --> 00:12:24.259 The snubs, the legal spin, the gerrymandering 00:12:24.259 --> 00:12:27.139 flyers and these massive economic forces and 00:12:27.139 --> 00:12:29.059 energy. What's your responsibility in cutting 00:12:29.059 --> 00:12:31.750 through all that? in digging for the facts, understanding 00:12:31.750 --> 00:12:34.590 the real long -term consequences of these trends 00:12:34.590 --> 00:12:36.929 for your community, for the future, something 00:12:36.929 --> 00:12:38.870 to think about. Thanks for joining us for the 00:12:38.870 --> 00:12:41.110 Deep Dive. Keep asking questions, stay curious, 00:12:41.330 --> 00:12:42.190 and we'll catch you next time.