WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.379 Welcome to the Deep Dive. Today we're really 00:00:02.379 --> 00:00:04.280 peeling back the layers on a fascinating collection 00:00:04.280 --> 00:00:06.459 of sources. They reveal some of the most critical 00:00:06.459 --> 00:00:08.060 political maneuvers happening right now. We've 00:00:08.060 --> 00:00:10.560 got some really compelling insights into, well, 00:00:10.699 --> 00:00:12.960 high stakes international diplomacy, the details 00:00:12.960 --> 00:00:15.160 of domestic legal battles and, you know, the 00:00:15.160 --> 00:00:17.320 ever shifting landscape of electoral politics. 00:00:17.879 --> 00:00:19.800 Our mission, as always, is to sift through all 00:00:19.800 --> 00:00:21.760 this information, pull out those essential nuggets 00:00:21.760 --> 00:00:24.000 of knowledge and give you the context you need. 00:00:24.300 --> 00:00:26.739 We want you to walk away feeling truly well informed, 00:00:26.899 --> 00:00:29.300 maybe even with a few aha moments, but without 00:00:29.289 --> 00:00:32.090 feeling overloaded. Our sources today are pretty 00:00:32.090 --> 00:00:34.469 diverse, everything from news analysis and statistical 00:00:34.469 --> 00:00:37.810 modeling to legal reports and some pretty bold 00:00:37.810 --> 00:00:40.509 strategic proposals. Together, they paint a complex, 00:00:40.950 --> 00:00:43.329 sometimes surprising picture of power strategy 00:00:43.329 --> 00:00:46.369 and, well, the political repercussions. OK, let's 00:00:46.369 --> 00:00:47.750 unpack this first one. We're starting with a 00:00:47.750 --> 00:00:49.950 highly anticipated event. the meeting between 00:00:49.950 --> 00:00:52.710 Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin in Alaska. The 00:00:52.710 --> 00:00:55.429 actual choice of location for this Friday summit 00:00:55.429 --> 00:00:58.530 is generating quite a bit of chatter. What's 00:00:58.530 --> 00:01:01.030 the immediate reaction we're seeing in the sources 00:01:01.030 --> 00:01:03.729 about this gathering? Yeah, the location itself, 00:01:03.770 --> 00:01:06.730 Alaska, is definitely a talking point, especially 00:01:06.730 --> 00:01:10.230 among Russian military bloggers who seem genuinely 00:01:10.230 --> 00:01:12.569 enthusiastic. They see Alaska and they use the 00:01:12.569 --> 00:01:15.269 phrase, rightfully theirs, drawing these parallels 00:01:15.269 --> 00:01:17.829 to history where countries sold or ceded land. 00:01:18.310 --> 00:01:21.030 sharp contrast to more neutral spots like Geneva 00:01:21.030 --> 00:01:23.090 or maybe Vienna, right? Right. Much more loaded. 00:01:23.430 --> 00:01:26.030 Exactly. But what's really fascinating here, 00:01:26.129 --> 00:01:28.969 I think, beyond just the venue, is the proposed 00:01:28.969 --> 00:01:32.549 agenda, especially around Ukraine. The analyses 00:01:32.549 --> 00:01:34.890 we've looked at suggest a potential offer from 00:01:34.890 --> 00:01:37.310 Trump basically give part of Ukraine to Russia 00:01:37.310 --> 00:01:40.650 for a temporary peace, which would, you know, 00:01:40.790 --> 00:01:43.969 let Putin rebuild his forces. But this immediately 00:01:43.969 --> 00:01:45.969 brings up a critical question, doesn't it? What 00:01:45.969 --> 00:01:48.650 about Ukraine's say in all this? And what did 00:01:48.650 --> 00:01:50.989 the sources tell us about Ukraine's response? 00:01:51.629 --> 00:01:53.590 Because it seems unlikely they'd just be passive 00:01:53.590 --> 00:01:56.250 observers here. Precisely. President Zelensky 00:01:56.250 --> 00:01:58.750 has already been very firm. He's rejected any 00:01:58.750 --> 00:02:01.189 idea like that. The Ukrainian Constitution, and 00:02:01.189 --> 00:02:02.890 this is crucial, doesn't actually give him the 00:02:02.890 --> 00:02:05.670 authority to just cede land. And he insists any 00:02:05.670 --> 00:02:08.330 deal has to involve Ukraine directly. Trump, 00:02:08.530 --> 00:02:10.189 though, reportedly sees it differently, more 00:02:10.189 --> 00:02:13.650 like a real estate deal, you know, trading land 00:02:13.650 --> 00:02:16.719 here for land there, like buying property. And 00:02:16.719 --> 00:02:20.780 while maybe theoretically a swap of Crimea for 00:02:20.780 --> 00:02:23.180 some eastern territory might be something Zelensky 00:02:23.180 --> 00:02:26.180 could consider in a different reality, the sources 00:02:26.180 --> 00:02:28.580 are very clear. There's zero indication Putin 00:02:28.580 --> 00:02:31.800 would ever actually return Crimea. None. This 00:02:31.800 --> 00:02:34.539 kind of high stakes land for peace bargaining. 00:02:34.680 --> 00:02:38.620 Yeah. It feels familiar. What historical parallel 00:02:38.620 --> 00:02:40.699 do our sources draw? It's quite a striking one. 00:02:40.780 --> 00:02:43.280 Well, that brings us to a really compelling part 00:02:43.280 --> 00:02:46.020 of this analysis. The sources draw this stark 00:02:46.020 --> 00:02:49.360 parallel to the 1938 Munich agreement. That's 00:02:49.360 --> 00:02:51.099 where British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain 00:02:51.099 --> 00:02:53.479 essentially handed over the Sudetenland, part 00:02:53.479 --> 00:02:56.319 of Czechoslovakia, to Adolf Hitler. In exchange 00:02:56.319 --> 00:02:58.740 for peace in our time. Exactly. In return for 00:02:58.740 --> 00:03:00.680 what turned out to be a totally meaningless promise 00:03:00.680 --> 00:03:02.860 of peace. And what's chilling about that moment 00:03:02.860 --> 00:03:05.039 is Czechoslovakia wasn't even at the table. They 00:03:05.039 --> 00:03:07.580 had no say in their own fate. Winston Churchill 00:03:07.580 --> 00:03:09.849 had that famous line about it. You were given 00:03:09.849 --> 00:03:12.569 the choice between war and dishonor. You chose 00:03:12.569 --> 00:03:15.810 dishonor and you will have war. And history proved 00:03:15.810 --> 00:03:18.949 him right. Sadly, yes. Hitler then swallowed 00:03:18.949 --> 00:03:21.330 all of Czechoslovakia, which really set the stage 00:03:21.330 --> 00:03:23.750 for World War II. So, OK, that's the historical 00:03:23.750 --> 00:03:26.590 context. What stops something similar happening 00:03:26.590 --> 00:03:29.610 now? Is Ukraine's position fundamentally different 00:03:29.610 --> 00:03:31.530 or are we just seeing history repeat itself? 00:03:31.849 --> 00:03:33.710 Well, the key difference, according to these 00:03:33.710 --> 00:03:37.349 analyses, is Ukraine's deep, deep distrust of 00:03:37.349 --> 00:03:40.810 Russia. and their absolute demand for solid security 00:03:40.810 --> 00:03:44.099 guarantees. Real ones. This makes any deal that 00:03:44.099 --> 00:03:46.740 actually favors Ukraine highly unlikely because, 00:03:46.860 --> 00:03:48.900 as the sources put it pretty bluntly, neither 00:03:48.900 --> 00:03:51.180 Trump nor Putin cares one whit about Ukraine. 00:03:51.879 --> 00:03:54.580 So Putin's tactic, the sources suggest, is likely 00:03:54.580 --> 00:03:57.520 to offer these meaningless promises, things Trump 00:03:57.520 --> 00:03:59.580 can then go and publicly claim is a big win. 00:03:59.659 --> 00:04:01.240 We saw something a bit similar. Remember when 00:04:01.240 --> 00:04:03.699 Ursula von der Leyen talked about that $600 billion 00:04:03.699 --> 00:04:07.219 EU investment in the U .S.? Vaguely, yes. Well, 00:04:07.300 --> 00:04:09.620 the catch was it wasn't a government commitment. 00:04:09.780 --> 00:04:12.199 It was all dependent on private companies deciding 00:04:12.199 --> 00:04:14.240 it was in their interest, kind of glossed over 00:04:14.240 --> 00:04:17.100 that part. Right. The details matter. So in this 00:04:17.100 --> 00:04:20.459 scenario, what kind of meaningless promises could 00:04:20.459 --> 00:04:23.439 Putin realistically offer that might actually 00:04:23.439 --> 00:04:26.680 appeal to Trump, given his focus on the photo 00:04:26.680 --> 00:04:29.639 op and claiming wins? The sources lay out several 00:04:29.639 --> 00:04:32.699 possibilities. Putin could promise to stop selling 00:04:32.699 --> 00:04:35.339 oil to India, knowing full well China would just 00:04:35.339 --> 00:04:37.439 step in, buy it, and resell it. No real change. 00:04:37.540 --> 00:04:40.680 OK. He could agree to stop drone attacks on Kyiv, 00:04:40.680 --> 00:04:43.259 for example, but then just switch to using missiles 00:04:43.259 --> 00:04:45.379 a few weeks later. A technicality, basically. 00:04:45.439 --> 00:04:48.019 Pretty much. Or he might propose working with 00:04:48.019 --> 00:04:50.500 the US to exploit Ukraine's rare earth minerals, 00:04:51.139 --> 00:04:53.740 maybe eliminate tariffs on the tiny amount of 00:04:53.740 --> 00:04:55.839 US goods sold to Russia. We're talking like $500 00:04:55.839 --> 00:04:58.319 million about what goes to Bermuda. Hardly a 00:04:58.319 --> 00:05:01.100 game changer. Not at all. And maybe the most 00:05:01.100 --> 00:05:03.500 provocative, he could offer to nominate Trump 00:05:03.500 --> 00:05:06.839 for a Nobel Peace Prize. Look, the clear takeaway 00:05:06.839 --> 00:05:09.560 is Putin has a long history of breaking promises. 00:05:09.920 --> 00:05:12.660 He knows or seems to believe that Trump cares 00:05:12.660 --> 00:05:15.160 more about the handshake and the photo op than 00:05:15.160 --> 00:05:18.339 the actual verifiable details. You know, Reagan's 00:05:18.339 --> 00:05:20.680 approach was trust but verify. Trump's approach, 00:05:20.920 --> 00:05:23.339 these sources say, is pretty much the same, except 00:05:23.339 --> 00:05:26.670 without the verify part. Putin's agreed to ceasefires 00:05:26.670 --> 00:05:29.050 before and then broken them within weeks. It's 00:05:29.050 --> 00:05:31.949 happened multiple times. So given that pattern, 00:05:32.250 --> 00:05:34.529 what do the sources predict as the real outcome 00:05:34.529 --> 00:05:37.129 of this meeting? Beyond the headlines, John Bolton's 00:05:37.129 --> 00:05:39.430 assessment, which our sources quote, Does that 00:05:39.430 --> 00:05:41.769 line up? It absolutely does. Bolton's view is 00:05:41.769 --> 00:05:44.290 pretty grim. He says, I have a feeling this is 00:05:44.290 --> 00:05:47.209 sliding very quickly in Russia's direction. Hmm. 00:05:47.410 --> 00:05:49.209 He predicts Putin will make an offer that maybe 00:05:49.209 --> 00:05:51.529 Trump doesn't even fully understand, then turn 00:05:51.529 --> 00:05:54.069 around and tell Zelensky, basically, you have 00:05:54.069 --> 00:05:57.810 no cards. Hmm. The core insight here, according 00:05:57.810 --> 00:05:59.930 to these analyses, is that Trump just wants the 00:05:59.930 --> 00:06:02.350 credit for making a deal. The substance, the 00:06:02.350 --> 00:06:05.220 implications for Ukraine, less important. So 00:06:05.220 --> 00:06:07.620 if getting a deal for the optics is Trump's goal, 00:06:07.879 --> 00:06:10.600 what about Putin? What do our sources say about 00:06:10.600 --> 00:06:12.519 his deeper motivations? What does he really want 00:06:12.519 --> 00:06:15.160 from this tactically and strategically? That's 00:06:15.160 --> 00:06:17.439 a really critical question about Putin's endgame, 00:06:17.480 --> 00:06:19.959 isn't it? Tactically, the sources suggest he 00:06:19.959 --> 00:06:22.300 wants a deal that Trump thinks is great, that 00:06:22.300 --> 00:06:26.079 he can sell as a win, but which is actually completely 00:06:26.079 --> 00:06:28.420 unacceptable to the other NATO members. Driving 00:06:28.420 --> 00:06:32.430 a wedge. Exactly. So discord between Trump and 00:06:32.430 --> 00:06:34.610 the rest of the alliance. That's the goal. His 00:06:34.610 --> 00:06:37.370 ideal deal. It probably involves land swaps, 00:06:37.529 --> 00:06:40.550 yes, but also these crucial promises. No NATO 00:06:40.550 --> 00:06:42.930 troops in Ukraine. Ukraine stays out of military 00:06:42.930 --> 00:06:45.790 alliances. The West doesn't rearm Ukraine, and 00:06:45.790 --> 00:06:47.709 Ukraine isn't allowed to develop its own weapons 00:06:47.709 --> 00:06:51.410 industry. Basically, keep Ukraine weak, vulnerable 00:06:51.410 --> 00:06:53.970 for another invasion down the road. And strategically. 00:06:54.290 --> 00:06:56.670 The bigger picture. Strategically, the historical 00:06:56.670 --> 00:06:59.490 echo is fascinating. Putin, the sources suggest, 00:06:59.649 --> 00:07:01.129 might be thinking about the Yalta Conference 00:07:01.129 --> 00:07:04.430 in 1945. You know, where Stalin, Roosevelt, and 00:07:04.430 --> 00:07:07.050 Churchill essentially carved up Europe. Dividing 00:07:07.050 --> 00:07:10.170 spheres of influence. Precisely. Putin's vision, 00:07:10.389 --> 00:07:12.529 as these sources depict it, could be a kind of 00:07:12.529 --> 00:07:15.689 global division. Russia bosses Europe, the US 00:07:15.689 --> 00:07:18.050 handles North and South America, and China gets 00:07:18.050 --> 00:07:21.240 Asia. Trump... maybe, sees this as a win for 00:07:21.240 --> 00:07:23.459 being a good negotiator, acquiring more real 00:07:23.459 --> 00:07:26.259 estate on the global map. And it's crucial to 00:07:26.259 --> 00:07:29.579 remember Putin's view. He's called the 1991 breakup 00:07:29.579 --> 00:07:32.220 of the Soviet Union the greatest geopolitical 00:07:32.220 --> 00:07:34.759 catastrophe of the century, reassembling it, 00:07:34.779 --> 00:07:38.079 even partly, by force. Well, in his mind, that 00:07:38.079 --> 00:07:40.139 could make him one of the greatest czars of all 00:07:40.139 --> 00:07:42.500 time. OK, so shifting from that global chessboard, 00:07:42.600 --> 00:07:44.639 let's bring it home. Our sources show similar 00:07:44.639 --> 00:07:46.459 kinds of strategic plays and vulnerabilities 00:07:46.459 --> 00:07:49.509 happening right here. First up. economic policies, 00:07:49.689 --> 00:07:51.629 specifically tariffs. They're broadly unpopular 00:07:51.629 --> 00:07:54.050 nationally, we know that. But what do the sources 00:07:54.050 --> 00:07:56.529 tell us about their impact in those key swing 00:07:56.529 --> 00:07:59.269 states? Yeah, we looked at the statistical modeling 00:07:59.269 --> 00:08:01.810 from G. Eliot Morris. He's Nate Silver's successor 00:08:01.810 --> 00:08:04.509 at FiveThirtyEight. He uses this method to figure 00:08:04.509 --> 00:08:07.009 out state by state views on tariffs by correlating 00:08:07.009 --> 00:08:09.889 them with demographics, race, age, sex, education, 00:08:10.069 --> 00:08:12.889 income, party affiliation, all that on a national 00:08:12.889 --> 00:08:15.149 level. And what did he find in the swing states? 00:08:15.449 --> 00:08:18.209 Well, what's striking is that in all 13 sw - 00:08:17.680 --> 00:08:21.040 states analyzed, approval for tariffs is lower 00:08:21.040 --> 00:08:24.279 than Trump's 2024 vote percentage in that same 00:08:24.279 --> 00:08:26.800 state. Meaning? Meaning a substantial number 00:08:26.800 --> 00:08:29.500 of people who actually voted for Trump are unhappy 00:08:29.500 --> 00:08:33.679 with the tariffs. Just for context, only 10 states 00:08:33.679 --> 00:08:36.500 overall show tariff approval over 50 percent, 00:08:36.500 --> 00:08:39.740 and they're all deep red states. Even West Virginia, 00:08:39.879 --> 00:08:42.820 the highest at 56 percent approval. Trump got 00:08:42.820 --> 00:08:45.019 70 percent of the vote there in 2024, so there's 00:08:45.019 --> 00:08:47.240 still a gap. Okay, connecting this to the bigger 00:08:47.240 --> 00:08:49.779 picture, that sounds like a potential weak spot 00:08:49.779 --> 00:08:51.940 for one side and maybe a clear opening for the 00:08:51.940 --> 00:08:54.500 other, especially if the economy is already squeezing 00:08:54.500 --> 00:08:57.210 people. Absolutely. It gives Democrats a pretty 00:08:57.210 --> 00:08:59.029 direct line of attack for the midterms, doesn't 00:08:59.029 --> 00:09:01.610 it? Especially if we see, say, a recession or 00:09:01.610 --> 00:09:04.029 more inflation. It just makes it easier to highlight 00:09:04.029 --> 00:09:06.250 how these specific economic policies might be 00:09:06.250 --> 00:09:08.610 hitting voters' wallets, even voters within a 00:09:08.610 --> 00:09:10.889 candidate's own base. It lets Democrats, you 00:09:10.889 --> 00:09:13.009 know, pin the tail on the elephant, blaming tariffs 00:09:13.009 --> 00:09:16.389 for any financial squeeze. Right. Beyond economics, 00:09:16.549 --> 00:09:18.730 though, our sources point to another domestic 00:09:18.730 --> 00:09:22.460 battleground. this relentless, seemingly coordinated 00:09:22.460 --> 00:09:25.440 campaign using legal and administrative power 00:09:25.440 --> 00:09:28.340 against perceived critics. Starting with the 00:09:28.340 --> 00:09:30.299 surprising turn in the Letitia James case in 00:09:30.299 --> 00:09:32.559 New York, she went after Trump successfully, 00:09:33.100 --> 00:09:35.720 and now it looks like the tables might be turning. 00:09:35.879 --> 00:09:38.779 That's right. Letitia James, the New York AG, 00:09:39.139 --> 00:09:42.259 won that big civil case against Trump over half 00:09:42.259 --> 00:09:44.879 a billion dollars now with interest, though it's 00:09:44.879 --> 00:09:47.360 still on appeal. OK. What's fascinating now is 00:09:47.360 --> 00:09:49.860 this apparent revenge strategy. The Department 00:09:49.860 --> 00:09:51.919 of Justice has subpoenaed James. It's part of 00:09:51.919 --> 00:09:53.960 an investigation into whether making Trump pay 00:09:53.960 --> 00:09:57.360 for, well, defrauding banks violated his civil 00:09:57.360 --> 00:09:59.460 rights. His civil rights. Yeah. The sources note 00:09:59.460 --> 00:10:01.320 the irony there, saying it's like the 14th Amendment 00:10:01.320 --> 00:10:03.840 guarantees everyone, regardless of race, the 00:10:03.840 --> 00:10:06.019 right to defraud banks. The key players involved 00:10:06.019 --> 00:10:09.460 are interesting, too. John Sartone, the interim 00:10:09.460 --> 00:10:11.259 U .S. attorney up there, he worked for Trump's 00:10:11.259 --> 00:10:13.899 election team, and federal judges actually refused 00:10:13.899 --> 00:10:16.440 to make his appointment permanent. And then there's 00:10:16.440 --> 00:10:18.779 special prosecutor Ed Martin, who Trump once 00:10:18.779 --> 00:10:21.039 nominated for U .S. attorney for D .C., but had 00:10:21.039 --> 00:10:23.720 to withdraw. Now he's apparently been cyst on 00:10:23.720 --> 00:10:26.659 James. And there's something else, too. About 00:10:26.659 --> 00:10:29.399 her residency? Yes. There are these unverified 00:10:29.399 --> 00:10:32.159 media reports claiming James listed her niece's 00:10:32.159 --> 00:10:34.700 Virginia house as her main residence on a mortgage 00:10:34.700 --> 00:10:37.600 application. That could potentially be bank fraud. 00:10:38.139 --> 00:10:40.240 She's hired Abby Lowell, a very high profile 00:10:40.240 --> 00:10:42.620 defense attorney, to handle it. So this isn't 00:10:42.620 --> 00:10:45.139 just about Letitia James then. The sources paint 00:10:45.139 --> 00:10:47.679 this as part of a much broader, more systematic 00:10:47.679 --> 00:10:50.600 use of federal power. What's the underlying pattern 00:10:50.600 --> 00:10:52.679 here? What's the motivation? Well, what's really 00:10:52.679 --> 00:10:54.700 insightful, I think, is how this case fits into 00:10:54.700 --> 00:10:56.919 this frankly chilling pattern of weaponizing 00:10:56.919 --> 00:11:00.700 federal agencies. Our sources detail a very deliberate 00:11:00.700 --> 00:11:03.299 strategy, using the full might of the federal 00:11:03.299 --> 00:11:05.779 government not just to punish critics, but to 00:11:05.779 --> 00:11:09.019 create this profound chilling effect across the 00:11:09.019 --> 00:11:11.500 board. Sending a message. Exactly. Sending a 00:11:11.500 --> 00:11:14.259 message. Don't cross me. Don't criticize me. 00:11:14.639 --> 00:11:17.000 And it extends to a lot of high profile people. 00:11:17.220 --> 00:11:19.059 You see these allegations of treason against 00:11:19.059 --> 00:11:21.940 Barack Obama leading to a grand jury probe despite, 00:11:21.940 --> 00:11:24.779 you know, tons of evidence of Russian interference 00:11:24.779 --> 00:11:27.759 in 2016 and zero evidence Obama did anything 00:11:27.759 --> 00:11:30.980 wrong. Right. James Comey... the former FBI Director 00:11:30.980 --> 00:11:33.340 Trump fired. In John Brennan, the former CIA 00:11:33.340 --> 00:11:35.720 Director Trump often attacked, both reportedly 00:11:35.720 --> 00:11:39.000 under FBI investigation now. Senator Adam Schiff, 00:11:39.120 --> 00:11:42.139 who managed the impeachment. The DOJ is apparently 00:11:42.139 --> 00:11:44.580 looking into alleged mortgage fraud, something 00:11:44.580 --> 00:11:47.570 his lawyer strongly. denies. Liz Cheney. Liz 00:11:47.570 --> 00:11:49.529 Cheney, co -chair of the January 6th committee. 00:11:49.870 --> 00:11:52.309 Trump called for a televised military tribunal 00:11:52.309 --> 00:11:55.129 for her, though no credible reports of an FBI 00:11:55.129 --> 00:11:57.490 investigation there yet. Even the Vindman brothers, 00:11:57.490 --> 00:11:59.690 Alexander, who testified about the Zelensky call, 00:12:00.009 --> 00:12:02.490 and his twin, Eugene, who reported they had a 00:12:02.490 --> 00:12:04.889 business venture investigated by Ed Martin. And 00:12:04.889 --> 00:12:06.990 Jack Smith, the special counsel who indicted 00:12:06.990 --> 00:12:10.230 Trump over the documents case on January 6th. 00:12:10.230 --> 00:12:12.190 His cases were suspended after the election, 00:12:12.190 --> 00:12:14.629 but now Trump has sixed the office's special 00:12:14.629 --> 00:12:17.350 counsel on him. him for a supposed Hatch Act 00:12:17.350 --> 00:12:19.750 violation. The Hatch Act. Isn't that usually 00:12:19.750 --> 00:12:23.070 for federal employees engaging in politics? Generally, 00:12:23.129 --> 00:12:25.940 yes. Look. The consensus from the sources is 00:12:25.940 --> 00:12:28.100 pretty clear. Most of these cases seem all made 00:12:28.100 --> 00:12:30.879 up. They probably will not get very far. But 00:12:30.879 --> 00:12:34.720 the targets, they rack up huge legal bills. Their 00:12:34.720 --> 00:12:36.779 lives are greatly disrupted. And that's the point, 00:12:36.860 --> 00:12:38.899 right, to send a message to anyone thinking of 00:12:38.899 --> 00:12:40.860 criticizing him in the future. And this targeting, 00:12:41.139 --> 00:12:42.919 it doesn't stop with individuals. It's even reaching 00:12:42.919 --> 00:12:45.639 into universities. Harvard specifically is facing 00:12:45.639 --> 00:12:48.179 this unprecedented threat over its patents. Why 00:12:48.179 --> 00:12:50.559 patents? What's that about? Yeah, this raises 00:12:50.559 --> 00:12:53.059 a really important question about how science 00:12:53.059 --> 00:12:55.259 and innovation usually work here. The process 00:12:55.259 --> 00:12:58.200 that's been in place for, what, 75 years? It's 00:12:58.200 --> 00:13:01.179 pretty standard. Universities get federal research 00:13:01.179 --> 00:13:03.460 funding. They invent things. They file patents. 00:13:03.860 --> 00:13:05.879 Then they license those patents to companies, 00:13:06.019 --> 00:13:09.320 get fees or royalties. It turns taxpayer -funded 00:13:09.320 --> 00:13:12.460 research into actual products and services. It's 00:13:12.460 --> 00:13:14.059 worked well. Nobody's really complained about 00:13:14.059 --> 00:13:15.960 it before. So what's different now with Harvard? 00:13:16.200 --> 00:13:18.440 Well, the Secretary of Commerce, Howard Lutnick, 00:13:18.600 --> 00:13:21.779 is demanding Harvard produce this huge list of 00:13:21.779 --> 00:13:24.360 all patents that came from federal grants. He 00:13:24.360 --> 00:13:26.980 says it's to check compliance with the Bay Dole 00:13:26.980 --> 00:13:29.659 Act. That's the law saying inventions from federal 00:13:29.659 --> 00:13:31.820 grants should benefit the American public, be 00:13:31.820 --> 00:13:34.460 commercialized. OK. Lutnick wants to know, is 00:13:34.460 --> 00:13:36.580 each patent being used? What are the licensing 00:13:36.580 --> 00:13:38.559 details? Where is the manufacturing happening? 00:13:38.600 --> 00:13:40.840 It's very extensive. And Harvard's response? 00:13:41.320 --> 00:13:43.440 Harvard basically says, look, our innovations 00:13:43.440 --> 00:13:46.240 are life -saving and industry redefining. and 00:13:46.240 --> 00:13:48.600 we're fully committed to complying with Betel. 00:13:49.200 --> 00:13:51.399 But the sources strongly suggest Trump himself 00:13:51.399 --> 00:13:54.379 has no interest in the Betel Act. It's really 00:13:54.379 --> 00:13:56.659 just about finding ways to punish Harvard if 00:13:56.659 --> 00:13:59.860 it refuses to submit to him. And financial punishment, 00:14:00.000 --> 00:14:02.940 that's often high on his do list. So it's leverage, 00:14:03.399 --> 00:14:06.059 not really about the law itself. And this is 00:14:06.059 --> 00:14:08.240 just aimed at Harvard, right? What's the broader 00:14:08.240 --> 00:14:10.240 picture for federal grants and universities? 00:14:10.639 --> 00:14:12.940 No, it definitely seems part of a bigger pattern. 00:14:13.120 --> 00:14:15.419 We're seeing reports of thousands of grants from 00:14:15.419 --> 00:14:18.279 NIH, the National Institutes of Health, NSF, 00:14:18.379 --> 00:14:20.720 the National Science Foundation, EPA, you name 00:14:20.720 --> 00:14:23.779 it, being prematurely terminated at universities 00:14:23.779 --> 00:14:25.879 all across the country. And what kinds of grants 00:14:25.879 --> 00:14:27.720 are being targeted? Well, they seem to be grants 00:14:27.720 --> 00:14:30.019 dealing with things like clean energy, climate 00:14:30.019 --> 00:14:32.389 change. and what the administration calls woke 00:14:32.389 --> 00:14:35.850 social, behavioral, and economic sciences, areas 00:14:35.850 --> 00:14:38.309 Trump wants to stamp out. So universities must 00:14:38.309 --> 00:14:41.289 be pushing back. Oh, yeah. Universities, even 00:14:41.289 --> 00:14:43.690 some state governments, are suing the federal 00:14:43.690 --> 00:14:45.929 government over these terminations, arguing they're 00:14:45.929 --> 00:14:49.110 arbitrary. Florida is mentioned as a special 00:14:49.110 --> 00:14:52.169 case. Governor Ron DeSantis has actually encouraged 00:14:52.169 --> 00:14:54.629 the termination of grants to his own state's 00:14:54.629 --> 00:14:56.690 universities. He said the Trump administration 00:14:56.690 --> 00:15:00.210 is working to get The rot out of higher education, 00:15:00.509 --> 00:15:03.330 the intellectual rot, the ideological rot. Wow. 00:15:03.610 --> 00:15:05.850 Are there specific examples of grants cut in 00:15:05.850 --> 00:15:09.190 Florida? The sources give a couple. One was a 00:15:09.190 --> 00:15:11.730 University of South Florida grant meant to improve 00:15:11.730 --> 00:15:14.649 an underserved minority neighborhood near Tampa. 00:15:15.409 --> 00:15:17.409 Another was helping restore clean water service 00:15:17.409 --> 00:15:19.529 to apartment complexes hit by Hurricane Milton. 00:15:20.090 --> 00:15:22.750 Both terminated. So what are the legal grounds 00:15:22.750 --> 00:15:24.909 here? Can the government just cancel grants like 00:15:24.909 --> 00:15:27.570 that? It's complicated. Unlike private contracts, 00:15:27.610 --> 00:15:29.269 where you can't just cancel if the service is 00:15:29.269 --> 00:15:31.470 being provided, the government is generally allowed 00:15:31.470 --> 00:15:34.309 to terminate contracts any time, but it has to 00:15:34.309 --> 00:15:36.990 have a valid justification. So the sources basically 00:15:36.990 --> 00:15:39.110 say the courts are going to be working overtime 00:15:39.110 --> 00:15:41.169 for the next several years, trying to figure 00:15:41.169 --> 00:15:43.230 out if the justifications here hold up. Okay. 00:15:43.509 --> 00:15:45.570 Finally, let's shift to the upcoming elections, 00:15:46.070 --> 00:15:49.350 specifically the House. Our sources say retirement 00:15:49.350 --> 00:15:52.350 season is on hold. And it's all tied to this 00:15:52.350 --> 00:15:54.610 unprecedented uncertainty around redistricting. 00:15:55.309 --> 00:15:57.730 What's going on? Why is this usual part of the 00:15:57.730 --> 00:16:01.690 cycle paused? Yeah, normally August recess is 00:16:01.690 --> 00:16:03.909 prime time for this. Members go home, talk to 00:16:03.909 --> 00:16:06.269 constituents, family, friends, decide if they 00:16:06.269 --> 00:16:08.230 want to run again. You know, some older members 00:16:08.230 --> 00:16:10.669 miss home. Maybe they're tired of the constant 00:16:10.669 --> 00:16:13.169 fundraising, the constituents yelling. The grind. 00:16:13.450 --> 00:16:16.799 Exactly. On average, you see about 39 house retirements 00:16:16.799 --> 00:16:19.179 around this time each cycle. But the big difference 00:16:19.179 --> 00:16:22.659 now, the new factor for 2026, is this huge uncertainty. 00:16:23.279 --> 00:16:25.299 Members literally don't know what their district 00:16:25.299 --> 00:16:27.539 will look like because of all this redistricting 00:16:27.539 --> 00:16:30.000 curer. Unlike previous cycles where it was mostly 00:16:30.000 --> 00:16:33.100 settled by now. Right. Usually after a census, 00:16:33.320 --> 00:16:35.379 the lines are pretty much set by the summer before 00:16:35.379 --> 00:16:38.240 the election year. Not this time. And what's 00:16:38.240 --> 00:16:40.820 fascinating is how this uncertainty ripples outwards. 00:16:41.279 --> 00:16:43.340 It's not just the members directly targeted for 00:16:43.340 --> 00:16:45.899 defeat. Think about it. Even a safe neighboring 00:16:45.899 --> 00:16:48.379 district might suddenly become competitive. Say 00:16:48.379 --> 00:16:51.240 you have a safe R -plus -10 district. To make 00:16:51.240 --> 00:16:53.519 a nearby targeted district more winnable for 00:16:53.519 --> 00:16:55.820 Republicans, they might redraw the line so that 00:16:55.820 --> 00:17:02.850 R -plus -10 becomes maybe R -plus -4. The targeted 00:17:02.850 --> 00:17:05.210 one. Precisely. So incumbents who thought they 00:17:05.210 --> 00:17:07.569 were totally secure might suddenly find themselves 00:17:07.569 --> 00:17:09.970 in a real fight. This could lead to a whole spate 00:17:09.970 --> 00:17:12.210 of retirements in the fall instead of the summer. 00:17:12.670 --> 00:17:14.829 And what are the knock on effects of these late 00:17:14.829 --> 00:17:17.210 retirements on the election cycle itself? Well, 00:17:17.309 --> 00:17:20.190 the downstream consequences are pretty significant. 00:17:21.029 --> 00:17:23.089 Filing deadlines for primaries start kicking 00:17:23.089 --> 00:17:26.569 in around December. If members retire late, say 00:17:26.569 --> 00:17:29.589 in the fall, that leaves much less time for like 00:17:29.589 --> 00:17:31.369 state senators to decide if they want to run 00:17:31.369 --> 00:17:34.009 for that House seat or for state House members 00:17:34.009 --> 00:17:36.329 to plan a run for the now vacant state Senate 00:17:36.329 --> 00:17:39.869 seat. It creates a whole chain reaction. It could 00:17:39.869 --> 00:17:42.950 lead to really hastily made decisions, maybe 00:17:42.950 --> 00:17:45.490 candidates who really aren't viable jumping in 00:17:45.490 --> 00:17:47.349 just because the opportunity is there late. You 00:17:47.349 --> 00:17:49.329 could end up with some really messy primaries 00:17:49.329 --> 00:17:52.019 next spring. As the analyses we read put it, 00:17:52.380 --> 00:17:54.440 we now have a level of uncertainty in the House 00:17:54.440 --> 00:17:56.000 that we have never had before at this point in 00:17:56.000 --> 00:17:58.619 the cycle. This redistricting push is clearly 00:17:58.619 --> 00:18:01.519 making a lot of members nervous, especially Republicans 00:18:01.519 --> 00:18:03.619 in blue states, right? Right. They seem caught 00:18:03.619 --> 00:18:05.900 between a rock and a hard place. They absolutely 00:18:05.900 --> 00:18:08.690 are. Imagine their dilemma. They can go talk 00:18:08.690 --> 00:18:11.390 to Speaker Mike Johnson, point out that if these 00:18:11.390 --> 00:18:14.029 aggressive redistricting plans move forward in 00:18:14.029 --> 00:18:16.910 their states, they and maybe several colleagues 00:18:16.910 --> 00:18:19.690 will probably lose their seats, which could mean 00:18:19.690 --> 00:18:22.609 zero net gain for the Republican Party overall, 00:18:23.069 --> 00:18:25.490 while also really angering independent voters 00:18:25.490 --> 00:18:28.710 who just don't like the idea of midterm redistricting 00:18:28.710 --> 00:18:31.529 at all. Which states are we talking about primarily? 00:18:32.100 --> 00:18:34.859 Axios highlights incumbents in California, Texas, 00:18:35.099 --> 00:18:37.380 Ohio, and Missouri as being right on the front 00:18:37.380 --> 00:18:40.319 lines. Democrats might also target seats in New 00:18:40.319 --> 00:18:42.099 Jersey and Illinois, though that could be tougher. 00:18:42.579 --> 00:18:44.920 New York is seeing it potentially easier, but 00:18:44.920 --> 00:18:47.180 the rules require two consecutive legislative 00:18:47.180 --> 00:18:49.339 sessions to change lines. So that would be for 00:18:49.339 --> 00:18:53.000 2028, not 2026. And Florida, you mentioned Florida 00:18:53.000 --> 00:18:54.680 earlier. Florida is a really interesting case. 00:18:54.700 --> 00:18:57.460 It's already heavily gerrymandered. Republicans 00:18:57.460 --> 00:19:00.299 hold 20 out of 28 House seats. That's 71 percent, 00:19:00.359 --> 00:19:02.279 even though Trump only won 56 percent of the 00:19:02.279 --> 00:19:04.660 vote there in 2024. So not much room left to 00:19:04.660 --> 00:19:08.190 squeeze. You'd think, but it's still. Conceivable 00:19:08.190 --> 00:19:10.470 that Republicans could go for the goal and try 00:19:10.470 --> 00:19:13.069 to wipe out a few of the remaining eight Democrats? 00:19:13.670 --> 00:19:16.630 Governor DeSantis apparently hasn't made a decision 00:19:16.630 --> 00:19:19.849 on this yet. So facing this threat, what can 00:19:19.849 --> 00:19:22.670 these Republicans actually do? Our sources mention 00:19:22.670 --> 00:19:25.789 a possible legislative fix and something about 00:19:25.789 --> 00:19:28.069 who might support it. This raises that important 00:19:28.069 --> 00:19:30.869 question. What are their options? Well, the sources 00:19:30.869 --> 00:19:33.029 point to a bill from Representative Kevin Kegley 00:19:33.029 --> 00:19:35.849 is a Republican from California. It would ban 00:19:35.849 --> 00:19:38.950 mid decade redistricting nationwide. OK, a federal 00:19:38.950 --> 00:19:41.509 ban. Right. And the really interesting twist 00:19:41.509 --> 00:19:44.369 is the potential coalition behind it. The thinking 00:19:44.369 --> 00:19:46.769 is most likely all the Democrats will support 00:19:46.769 --> 00:19:50.289 it naturally, but also crucially, those Republicans 00:19:50.289 --> 00:19:52.490 about to lose their seats because of state level 00:19:52.490 --> 00:19:54.349 gerrymandering. So it could actually pass the 00:19:54.349 --> 00:19:56.470 House. It suggests a possible majority. Yeah. 00:19:56.890 --> 00:19:58.990 Which puts those blue state Republicans in a 00:19:58.990 --> 00:20:01.710 terrible bind, doesn't it? Do they support Kylie's 00:20:01.710 --> 00:20:03.910 bill and get primaries back home for crossing 00:20:03.910 --> 00:20:06.450 the party line on redistricting? Or do they oppose 00:20:06.450 --> 00:20:08.289 the bill and have your district be redrawn so 00:20:08.289 --> 00:20:11.549 you can't possibly win it? Tough choice. OK. 00:20:11.609 --> 00:20:13.509 And finally, there's this really provocative 00:20:13.509 --> 00:20:16.349 strategy outlined by two Democratic strategists, 00:20:16.569 --> 00:20:18.549 Arkady Gurney and Sarah Knight. They call it 00:20:18.549 --> 00:20:23.529 Project 2026. And it's rooted in Cold War thinking. 00:20:24.139 --> 00:20:27.140 Mutually Assured Destruction, M .A .D. What exactly 00:20:27.140 --> 00:20:29.119 does that mean in this context? It sounds pretty 00:20:29.119 --> 00:20:31.519 aggressive. It is aggressive and the concept 00:20:31.519 --> 00:20:33.660 as laid out has two main parts. The first part 00:20:33.660 --> 00:20:36.480 is called counter force. This is basically Democrats 00:20:36.480 --> 00:20:38.900 redistricting their states as much as they possibly 00:20:38.900 --> 00:20:42.569 can aiming to Match or exceed the number of House 00:20:42.569 --> 00:20:44.529 seats Republicans would flip through their own 00:20:44.529 --> 00:20:47.250 gerrymandering? It's described as a pretty straightforward, 00:20:47.509 --> 00:20:49.269 kind -for -kind battle. Your House seats for 00:20:49.269 --> 00:20:51.470 my House seats. Tip for tat. Okay, that sounds 00:20:51.470 --> 00:20:53.569 like typical hardball politics. What's the second 00:20:53.569 --> 00:20:57.150 part? Ah, the second part. Counter value. This 00:20:57.150 --> 00:20:59.210 is where it gets really interesting and much 00:20:59.210 --> 00:21:02.309 more aggressive. This part would, as the sources 00:21:02.309 --> 00:21:06.210 say, go way beyond that if invoked. It involves 00:21:06.210 --> 00:21:08.890 using the blue state's much greater economic 00:21:08.890 --> 00:21:11.630 power to inflict actual tangible pain on the 00:21:11.630 --> 00:21:14.549 red states. Economic power. How so? Well, the 00:21:14.549 --> 00:21:18.069 key premise is the economic disparity. The 15 00:21:18.069 --> 00:21:20.470 states where Democrats have the trifecta governor, 00:21:20.789 --> 00:21:24.359 state house, state senate are collectively, economically 00:21:24.359 --> 00:21:27.559 much stronger than the 23 states where Republicans 00:21:27.559 --> 00:21:30.279 have the trifecta. OK, so leverage that economic 00:21:30.279 --> 00:21:32.180 strength. How specifically could they do that? 00:21:32.420 --> 00:21:34.180 The sources outlined some pretty aggressive tactics, 00:21:34.220 --> 00:21:36.160 right? They do. Some really specific examples 00:21:36.160 --> 00:21:38.519 are given. Loose states could pass laws making 00:21:38.519 --> 00:21:41.099 it. more difficult for big corporations to operate 00:21:41.099 --> 00:21:43.299 in red states. For instance, they could forbid 00:21:43.299 --> 00:21:45.980 their state pension funds, which are huge investors 00:21:45.980 --> 00:21:48.980 from buying stocks, ETFs, or mutual funds that 00:21:48.980 --> 00:21:51.019 include companies headquartered in designated 00:21:51.019 --> 00:21:53.779 bad states. Bad states. Yeah, the governor would 00:21:53.779 --> 00:21:56.480 maintain a list. Think big companies headquartered 00:21:56.480 --> 00:21:59.519 in red states. AT &T, American Airlines, Exxon 00:21:59.519 --> 00:22:04.130 Mobil, Phillips 66. The goal. depress the prices 00:22:04.130 --> 00:22:07.029 of their stock. Wow. What else? State agencies 00:22:07.029 --> 00:22:09.390 in blue states could be banned from buying anything 00:22:09.390 --> 00:22:11.710 from a company on the bad state list unless there 00:22:11.710 --> 00:22:14.690 was literally no alternative. So procurement 00:22:14.690 --> 00:22:19.069 power. Exactly. So maybe no Dell computers from 00:22:19.069 --> 00:22:22.809 Round Rock, Texas. Good news for HP and Palo 00:22:22.809 --> 00:22:25.730 Alto, perhaps. No Teslas from Austin. Good news 00:22:25.730 --> 00:22:28.430 for GM and Ford in Michigan. and extend that 00:22:28.430 --> 00:22:30.910 to banning all state contracts, including services, 00:22:31.190 --> 00:22:33.349 with companies on that bad state list. Okay, 00:22:33.430 --> 00:22:35.230 that's targeting corporations. What about other 00:22:35.230 --> 00:22:37.430 tactics? Another one mentioned is poaching key 00:22:37.430 --> 00:22:39.849 personnel. States like California, Illinois, 00:22:39.869 --> 00:22:42.390 New York could offer substantial relocation bonuses 00:22:42.390 --> 00:22:44.750 for doctors, nurses, teachers, and other valued 00:22:44.750 --> 00:22:47.250 professionals to move to their states, specifically 00:22:47.250 --> 00:22:49.569 if they settle in areas that are currently underserved 00:22:49.569 --> 00:22:51.589 in those blue states. So lure away essential 00:22:51.589 --> 00:22:54.309 workers. Right. The governor could even appoint 00:22:54.309 --> 00:22:57.259 a chief poaching officer. to coordinate it, set 00:22:57.259 --> 00:23:00.019 up a website listing vacancies. Now, the sources 00:23:00.019 --> 00:23:03.000 acknowledge the criticism that this would be 00:23:03.000 --> 00:23:04.980 hurting the poor patients and students in Texas, 00:23:05.059 --> 00:23:07.319 for example. But the stated justification would 00:23:07.319 --> 00:23:09.700 be about improved services for the poor people 00:23:09.700 --> 00:23:13.869 in California. Any other examples targeting specific 00:23:13.869 --> 00:23:16.470 industries? Yes, for instance, Texas produces 00:23:16.470 --> 00:23:19.250 a lot of oil and gas so things like higher taxes 00:23:19.250 --> 00:23:22.549 on gas guzzling cars bigger subsidies for electric 00:23:22.549 --> 00:23:25.250 ones those come to mind here and Finally the 00:23:25.250 --> 00:23:27.390 idea of hiring creative professionals in blue 00:23:27.390 --> 00:23:29.950 state specifically to think up ways to use their 00:23:29.950 --> 00:23:32.710 economic buying and market power to actively 00:23:32.710 --> 00:23:36.049 treat bad states Basically inflict maximum pain 00:23:36.049 --> 00:23:38.670 at the lowest cost to their own state. So if 00:23:38.670 --> 00:23:40.970 this counter value thing were actually deployed 00:23:41.599 --> 00:23:44.079 It's not just economic warfare, is it? The sources 00:23:44.079 --> 00:23:46.160 suggest it's almost a redefinition of federalism, 00:23:46.460 --> 00:23:48.119 pitting states against each other like Cold War 00:23:48.119 --> 00:23:51.240 adversaries. Is this kind of state on state economic 00:23:51.240 --> 00:23:54.380 fight truly unprecedented? Connecting this to 00:23:54.380 --> 00:23:56.299 the bigger picture, the sources say that while 00:23:56.299 --> 00:23:59.680 it is unprecedented for the states to act this 00:23:59.680 --> 00:24:02.279 way towards each other, it actually parallels 00:24:02.279 --> 00:24:04.640 how the Trump administration is seen as using 00:24:04.640 --> 00:24:07.579 every bit of power it has to force law firms, 00:24:07.900 --> 00:24:10.619 media companies, universities, nonprofits and 00:24:10.619 --> 00:24:13.480 more to bend to its will. So the states using 00:24:13.480 --> 00:24:16.569 the same playbook back. Kind of. The idea is 00:24:16.569 --> 00:24:19.309 that the states, maybe a compact among those 00:24:19.309 --> 00:24:21.930 15 blue trifecta states, could be a countervailing 00:24:21.930 --> 00:24:25.509 force, a credible threat, actually using federalism 00:24:25.509 --> 00:24:27.789 to pit the massive economies of the blue states 00:24:27.789 --> 00:24:30.569 against the often largely agricultural economies 00:24:30.569 --> 00:24:33.049 of the red states. That could be a game changer 00:24:33.049 --> 00:24:35.029 if done right. Well, we have certainly covered 00:24:35.029 --> 00:24:38.400 a lot of ground in this deep dive. Wow. the high 00:24:38.400 --> 00:24:40.480 stakes of international diplomacy and that intricate 00:24:40.480 --> 00:24:42.940 dance of domestic politics, right down to these 00:24:42.940 --> 00:24:45.039 really unprecedented strategies being floated 00:24:45.039 --> 00:24:47.740 for our electoral map. It's clear that power 00:24:47.740 --> 00:24:50.079 influenced the simple pursuit of political gain. 00:24:50.599 --> 00:24:52.319 It's all shaping our world in really profound 00:24:52.319 --> 00:24:55.390 ways, both here at home and abroad. Indeed. The 00:24:55.390 --> 00:24:57.869 sources we've dug into today really highlight 00:24:57.869 --> 00:25:00.410 just how much is in play, doesn't it? From those 00:25:00.410 --> 00:25:02.650 individual legal fights right up to the basic 00:25:02.650 --> 00:25:04.809 structure of our election system and even the 00:25:04.809 --> 00:25:07.769 balance of global power. It really encourages 00:25:07.769 --> 00:25:10.269 you, I think, to think critically about the implications 00:25:10.269 --> 00:25:13.430 of every single move on this very complex political 00:25:13.430 --> 00:25:15.990 chessboard. So as you go about your week, maybe 00:25:15.990 --> 00:25:18.730 consider this. How might these strategies, we've 00:25:18.730 --> 00:25:20.450 talked about whether it's a kind of real estate 00:25:20.450 --> 00:25:24.089 deal for Ukraine or this mutually assured destruction 00:25:24.089 --> 00:25:27.250 plan between states, how might they actually 00:25:27.250 --> 00:25:29.750 reshape the landscape of power in the years ahead? 00:25:30.410 --> 00:25:32.190 Was maybe one area you'll be watching a bit more 00:25:32.190 --> 00:25:34.769 closely now with these insights in mind. And 00:25:34.769 --> 00:25:37.269 remember, staying informed isn't just about knowing 00:25:37.269 --> 00:25:39.750 the facts. It's about understanding the motivations, 00:25:40.210 --> 00:25:42.890 seeing the historical echoes, grasping the potential 00:25:42.890 --> 00:25:45.250 ripple effects. We hope this deep dive has given 00:25:45.250 --> 00:25:47.589 you a valuable shortcut to that kind of understanding. 00:25:47.990 --> 00:25:50.309 Until next time, keep digging, keep questioning, 00:25:50.829 --> 00:25:51.509 and keep exploring.