WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.620 Welcome to the deep dive. If you're looking for 00:00:02.620 --> 00:00:05.080 a shortcut to really being well -informed, well, 00:00:05.099 --> 00:00:07.400 you're in the right place. Today, we're aiming 00:00:07.400 --> 00:00:10.220 to cut through all the noise, pulling out the 00:00:10.220 --> 00:00:11.800 key insights from a whole stack of different 00:00:11.800 --> 00:00:14.820 sources. We're going on a bit of a journey, really, 00:00:14.839 --> 00:00:17.859 sweeping from high stakes international trade 00:00:17.859 --> 00:00:20.579 all the way to domestic legal fights, political 00:00:20.579 --> 00:00:23.280 strategy, and even faith in policy. Yeah, our 00:00:23.280 --> 00:00:25.920 mission here is basically to light up what actually 00:00:25.920 --> 00:00:28.960 matters, help you connect the dots between things 00:00:28.960 --> 00:00:31.980 that Maybe at first seemed totally separate the 00:00:31.980 --> 00:00:35.299 sources we've dug into from news analysis to 00:00:35.299 --> 00:00:37.700 specific policy stuff They're gonna be our guide. 00:00:38.179 --> 00:00:40.659 So let's just dive in. Okay, let's unpack this 00:00:40.659 --> 00:00:43.020 first topic then Donald Trump's trade policy 00:00:43.020 --> 00:00:45.159 as the sources describe it And the main argument 00:00:45.159 --> 00:00:47.100 seems to be it's not just lacking coherence, 00:00:47.179 --> 00:00:50.039 it's more like, well, an improvised one man show. 00:00:50.219 --> 00:00:52.840 What really jumped out at me was this basic conflict 00:00:52.840 --> 00:00:54.700 in the goal stated, like protecting American 00:00:54.700 --> 00:00:57.039 industry that's protectionism, pure and simple, 00:00:57.039 --> 00:00:59.539 but then also demanding open markets abroad, 00:00:59.719 --> 00:01:02.280 which is open trade. Those two things don't really 00:01:02.280 --> 00:01:04.599 sit well together, do they? No, they really don't. 00:01:04.739 --> 00:01:07.579 And the sources, they really hit that point by 00:01:07.579 --> 00:01:09.680 showing how unpredictable it all is. We're seeing 00:01:09.680 --> 00:01:12.680 almost daily changes. You know, which tariffs, 00:01:12.900 --> 00:01:14.560 which countries, what's the timeline? It keeps 00:01:14.560 --> 00:01:17.599 shifting. And remember that promise of literally 00:01:17.599 --> 00:01:20.500 hundreds of trade deals by, what was it, July 00:01:20.500 --> 00:01:23.480 or August? The reality, just three deals so far. 00:01:23.680 --> 00:01:26.079 And only one of those is actually like finalized. 00:01:26.420 --> 00:01:29.269 Two were just preliminary. Right. It really does 00:01:29.269 --> 00:01:31.530 seem like a moving target. And this improvisation, 00:01:31.549 --> 00:01:34.489 it's been pretty obvious lately, like that announcement 00:01:34.489 --> 00:01:37.890 of a 35 percent tariff on Canada explicitly tied 00:01:37.890 --> 00:01:40.450 to them not stopping Sentinel. That's a novel 00:01:40.450 --> 00:01:42.329 linkage. Then there were those variable blanket 00:01:42.329 --> 00:01:44.709 tariffs, 15, 20 or 25 percent. That's up from 00:01:44.709 --> 00:01:46.650 the 10 percent promise before hitting any country 00:01:46.650 --> 00:01:50.010 that doesn't get a deal done soon. And we can't 00:01:50.010 --> 00:01:52.209 forget the earlier threats to 50 percent on copper, 00:01:52.489 --> 00:01:54.590 up to 200 percent on pharmaceuticals. Plus the 00:01:54.590 --> 00:01:56.870 August 1 deadline for deals switching from soft 00:01:56.870 --> 00:02:00.189 to hard. It's a lot. It really is. But here's 00:02:00.189 --> 00:02:02.469 where it gets. Well, the sources call it the 00:02:02.469 --> 00:02:05.930 nuttiest development. A 50 percent tariff threatened 00:02:05.930 --> 00:02:09.590 against Brazil starting August 1st, 2025. So 00:02:09.590 --> 00:02:11.710 a way off. But still. Yeah. And the reasons given 00:02:11.710 --> 00:02:13.729 they're apparently in letter to President Lula. 00:02:14.009 --> 00:02:16.409 It mentions anger over the trial of former President 00:02:16.409 --> 00:02:18.870 Bolsonaro calling it a witch hunt, an international 00:02:18.870 --> 00:02:22.330 disgrace, and also these alleged secret and unlawful 00:02:22.330 --> 00:02:24.770 censorship orders from Brazil's Supreme Court 00:02:24.770 --> 00:02:26.969 hitting U .S. social media, including Trump's 00:02:26.969 --> 00:02:30.129 own company. Wow. Okay. So, tariff policy. Normally 00:02:30.129 --> 00:02:32.669 about trade being used under this idea of an 00:02:32.669 --> 00:02:36.360 imagined national emergency to what? tread upon 00:02:36.360 --> 00:02:38.180 Brazil's sovereignty, as the source puts it. 00:02:38.379 --> 00:02:40.159 And it seems like it's more for personal goals 00:02:40.159 --> 00:02:43.300 than US interests or actual trade issues. That's 00:02:43.300 --> 00:02:45.759 a serious blurring of lines. And the sources 00:02:45.759 --> 00:02:47.479 even say White House insiders admitted other 00:02:47.479 --> 00:02:49.240 ways to pressure Brazil were just seen as too 00:02:49.240 --> 00:02:51.479 slow, too complicated. Yeah, and if you think 00:02:51.479 --> 00:02:54.400 about the wider impact on international talks, 00:02:54.500 --> 00:02:56.680 it's got to be hard for other leaders. The sources 00:02:56.680 --> 00:02:59.479 suggest there's basically zero guarantee that 00:02:59.479 --> 00:03:02.729 this flamethrower, as they call it, won't get 00:03:02.729 --> 00:03:05.669 turned on them next. And looking back, those 00:03:05.669 --> 00:03:08.949 past deadlines haven't often stuck, except for 00:03:08.949 --> 00:03:12.430 that one time, which lasted just three days and 00:03:12.430 --> 00:03:14.689 tanked the markets pretty badly. That really 00:03:14.689 --> 00:03:16.870 speaks volumes about the real world impact, doesn't 00:03:16.870 --> 00:03:19.430 it? That kind of volatility. OK, so from that 00:03:19.430 --> 00:03:21.069 global economic scene, let's shift back home 00:03:21.069 --> 00:03:23.550 to a domestic legal fight that's moving really 00:03:23.550 --> 00:03:26.719 fast. On June 26th, the Supreme Court stepped 00:03:26.719 --> 00:03:29.639 in. They paused a lower court's nationwide injunction. 00:03:30.219 --> 00:03:32.340 That injunction was trying to block an executive 00:03:32.340 --> 00:03:34.740 order about denying citizenship to some U .S.-born 00:03:34.740 --> 00:03:37.139 individuals. The Supreme Court's reasoning was 00:03:37.139 --> 00:03:39.699 specific. The lower court went too far applying 00:03:39.699 --> 00:03:41.819 it nationwide instead of just to the people actually 00:03:41.819 --> 00:03:44.240 in the case. Right. But what's fascinating here 00:03:44.240 --> 00:03:46.060 is they didn't just shut it down completely. 00:03:46.439 --> 00:03:49.819 They made a point of clarifying. that a nationwide 00:03:49.819 --> 00:03:53.280 injunction might be okay sometimes, like if the 00:03:53.280 --> 00:03:56.379 lower court certifies a class action, or maybe 00:03:56.379 --> 00:03:58.580 if it's the only way to give complete relief 00:03:58.580 --> 00:04:00.569 to the plaintiffs, you know. like states having 00:04:00.569 --> 00:04:03.009 to bear costs. So that little clarification, 00:04:03.229 --> 00:04:05.650 it basically opened a door for the next legal 00:04:05.650 --> 00:04:08.389 move. And they moved fast, didn't they? The very 00:04:08.389 --> 00:04:11.310 next day, the ACLU changed their federal lawsuit 00:04:11.310 --> 00:04:13.770 in New Hampshire. They asked to certify a class 00:04:13.770 --> 00:04:16.050 exactly like the Supreme Court suggested, a class 00:04:16.050 --> 00:04:18.250 of kids and parents hit by the executive order. 00:04:18.490 --> 00:04:20.949 That's right. And then U .S. District Judge Joseph 00:04:20.949 --> 00:04:23.819 LaPlante. He's a George W. Bush appointee. He 00:04:23.819 --> 00:04:27.399 acted on that. He certified a class action specifically 00:04:27.399 --> 00:04:30.579 for current and future U .S.-born children. Not 00:04:30.579 --> 00:04:33.220 the parents, though, which the ACLU wanted. And 00:04:33.220 --> 00:04:34.959 then having certified the class, he broadened 00:04:34.959 --> 00:04:37.439 his earlier injunction to apply nationwide again. 00:04:38.180 --> 00:04:40.420 His reasoning was pretty strong. He said, denying 00:04:40.420 --> 00:04:42.939 citizenship is clearly irreparable harm, not 00:04:42.939 --> 00:04:45.399 a close call. Called it the greatest privilege 00:04:45.399 --> 00:04:47.939 that exists in the world. And he specifically 00:04:47.939 --> 00:04:50.560 mentioned the Supreme Court's order saying that 00:04:50.560 --> 00:04:52.680 said the Supreme Court suggested a class action 00:04:52.680 --> 00:04:55.040 is a better option, basically following their 00:04:55.040 --> 00:04:57.920 roadmap. Hmm, quite a statement. So what does 00:04:57.920 --> 00:05:00.399 this all mean for you watching this unfold? Well, 00:05:00.399 --> 00:05:02.540 Judge Laplante put his own order on hold for 00:05:02.540 --> 00:05:05.060 seven days to allow for an appeal, which everyone 00:05:05.060 --> 00:05:06.779 knows is coming. So it looks like this whole 00:05:06.779 --> 00:05:09.019 legal fight is heading straight back to the Supreme 00:05:09.019 --> 00:05:11.500 Court, almost like a direct reply to their earlier 00:05:11.500 --> 00:05:13.680 ruling. Exactly. It's not just illegal back and 00:05:13.680 --> 00:05:16.720 forth. It's a real test of executive power versus 00:05:16.720 --> 00:05:19.879 the judiciary, especially in this very charged 00:05:19.879 --> 00:05:22.220 atmosphere. The Supreme Court basically laid 00:05:22.220 --> 00:05:25.560 out the next play. And speaking of charged atmospheres, 00:05:25.819 --> 00:05:27.939 let's move to political strategy, specifically 00:05:27.939 --> 00:05:31.290 the House and the midterm. Sources say House 00:05:31.290 --> 00:05:33.410 Republicans, Speaker Johnson included, are sounding 00:05:33.410 --> 00:05:36.850 confident in public. But privately. They see 00:05:36.850 --> 00:05:39.589 some real hurdles for the 2026 midterms. You 00:05:39.589 --> 00:05:41.790 know, history usually favors the party out of 00:05:41.790 --> 00:05:44.250 the White House in midterms. Plus, Trump's reported 00:05:44.250 --> 00:05:47.449 unpopularity 12 points underwater. And the BBB 00:05:47.449 --> 00:05:50.160 agenda's unpopularity 23 points underwater. Those 00:05:50.160 --> 00:05:52.839 are tough numbers. And that private concern, 00:05:53.139 --> 00:05:55.500 that's likely why they're already strategizing 00:05:55.500 --> 00:05:57.579 to keep their house majority. The main tactic, 00:05:57.819 --> 00:06:00.060 redrawing congressional district maps more often 00:06:00.060 --> 00:06:02.769 than just once a decade, which... Legally, they 00:06:02.769 --> 00:06:05.170 can do. The sources lay out sort of four criteria 00:06:05.170 --> 00:06:07.810 for the best states for this strategy. Big population, 00:06:08.389 --> 00:06:11.029 politically purple red, partisan control of the 00:06:11.029 --> 00:06:13.649 map drawing process. And this is key not already 00:06:13.649 --> 00:06:15.850 super gerrymandered, which is why Florida, for 00:06:15.850 --> 00:06:17.810 example, is explicitly not part of this plan. 00:06:18.029 --> 00:06:20.110 Oh, OK. So it's not just about winning the next 00:06:20.110 --> 00:06:22.089 election. It's about changing the playing field 00:06:22.089 --> 00:06:25.110 itself. Let's look at Ohio, then, as a key target 00:06:25.110 --> 00:06:27.709 state. They actually have to draw a new map there 00:06:27.709 --> 00:06:30.269 by state law. The current one didn't get bipartisan 00:06:30.269 --> 00:06:32.589 backing. First shot goes to the Ohio Redistricting 00:06:32.589 --> 00:06:35.290 Commission. But if they don't get a supermajority... 00:06:35.310 --> 00:06:38.129 it falls to the state legislature, which is heavily 00:06:38.129 --> 00:06:40.189 Republican. Right. And a huge factor in Ohio 00:06:40.189 --> 00:06:42.089 now is the state Supreme Court. It used to be 00:06:42.089 --> 00:06:44.250 four, three Republican. Now it's six, one, a 00:06:44.250 --> 00:06:46.990 much stronger majority. So the GOP goal there 00:06:46.990 --> 00:06:49.490 is ambitious. They're looking at maybe shifting 00:06:49.490 --> 00:06:52.389 the current 10 Republicans, five Democrats delegation 00:06:52.389 --> 00:06:55.930 to possibly 12 to three or even 13 to two. And 00:06:55.930 --> 00:06:58.209 the source is named Mercy Captor, Democrat and 00:06:58.209 --> 00:07:00.930 OH09, as a likely target in that scenario. It's 00:07:00.930 --> 00:07:03.319 a pretty aggressive plan. And Ohio wasn't alone. 00:07:03.519 --> 00:07:05.980 Over in Texas, Governor Abbott called a special 00:07:05.980 --> 00:07:08.220 legislative session, and he specifically added, 00:07:08.639 --> 00:07:10.819 discuss redrawing the congressional district 00:07:10.819 --> 00:07:14.019 maps to the agenda. So no subtlety there. No, 00:07:14.019 --> 00:07:17.019 not at all. Currently, Texas has 25 Republicans, 00:07:17.220 --> 00:07:19.839 13 Democrats in the House. The sources think 00:07:19.839 --> 00:07:22.939 Democrats, Henry Koeller, his district, TX 28, 00:07:23.019 --> 00:07:27.079 is R plus two. And Vicenta Gonzalez, TX 34, is 00:07:27.079 --> 00:07:30.310 rated even. Those are probably the main targets 00:07:30.310 --> 00:07:33.149 trying to go after Veronica Escobar and TX 16. 00:07:33.189 --> 00:07:36.610 That's a D plus 11 district that would need some 00:07:36.610 --> 00:07:39.769 Very acrobatic map drawing as the source puts 00:07:39.769 --> 00:07:42.129 it. Yeah, sounds tricky, but we should also mention 00:07:42.129 --> 00:07:44.220 the risks here, right? It's not a guaranteed 00:07:44.220 --> 00:07:47.100 win. Politicians might be nervous because gerrymandering 00:07:47.100 --> 00:07:49.360 itself isn't very popular politically. Plus, 00:07:49.420 --> 00:07:51.759 if there's a big blue wave, heavily gerrymandered 00:07:51.759 --> 00:07:53.860 maps can sometimes lead to even bigger losses 00:07:53.860 --> 00:07:55.620 for the party that drew them. And of course, 00:07:55.720 --> 00:07:57.480 the courts will definitely get involved, which 00:07:57.480 --> 00:07:59.500 makes the final outcome pretty unpredictable. 00:08:00.019 --> 00:08:02.100 Absolutely. It really brings up that fundamental 00:08:02.100 --> 00:08:03.899 question about representative democracy, doesn't 00:08:03.899 --> 00:08:06.100 it? You know, are voters choosing their representatives 00:08:06.100 --> 00:08:08.360 or is it the other way around? OK, let's shift 00:08:08.360 --> 00:08:12.399 gears again to a really controversial and, honestly, 00:08:13.139 --> 00:08:16.019 speculative topic. Yeah. The Epstein Files. It 00:08:16.019 --> 00:08:18.199 starts with this missing minute of video from 00:08:18.199 --> 00:08:21.439 Epstein's jail cell the night he died. Just think. 00:08:22.680 --> 00:08:24.579 The Zapruder film of the Kennedy assassination 00:08:24.579 --> 00:08:27.600 is only 26 .6 seconds long. And look how much 00:08:27.600 --> 00:08:29.720 debate that caused. And it's not even missing 00:08:29.720 --> 00:08:32.100 time. So a whole missing minute, that leaves 00:08:32.100 --> 00:08:34.840 a huge space for, well, speculation. Mm -hmm. 00:08:35.000 --> 00:08:37.659 And that leads right to the core issue, the supposed 00:08:37.659 --> 00:08:40.600 Epstein client list. The White House says flat 00:08:40.600 --> 00:08:43.799 out, no such list exists. But then you have several 00:08:43.799 --> 00:08:46.080 people contradicting that. Pam Bondi said back 00:08:46.080 --> 00:08:49.320 in April it was sitting on her desk. Elon Musk 00:08:49.320 --> 00:08:51.440 has claimed multiple times he's seen it. Alan 00:08:51.440 --> 00:08:53.480 Dershowitz also said he saw it, but couldn't 00:08:53.480 --> 00:08:55.100 say more because of attorney -client privilege. 00:08:55.340 --> 00:08:56.860 And even Donald Trump himself has apparently 00:08:56.860 --> 00:08:58.639 seen the list. That's according to Bill O 'Reilly. 00:08:59.039 --> 00:09:00.639 O 'Reilly said Trump told him he wouldn't release 00:09:00.639 --> 00:09:02.620 it because some people on it would be unfairly 00:09:02.620 --> 00:09:05.039 destroyed, which is... quite a reason to withhold 00:09:05.039 --> 00:09:07.799 it, given the public interest. So look, the exact 00:09:07.799 --> 00:09:10.440 nature of this document, is it literally a list 00:09:10.440 --> 00:09:13.139 of clients for trafficking? Or maybe an address 00:09:13.139 --> 00:09:15.039 book, email contacts. That's still a question 00:09:15.039 --> 00:09:17.299 mark. But the sources seem pretty clear. There's 00:09:17.299 --> 00:09:19.740 some kind of document that exists. Many people 00:09:19.740 --> 00:09:22.679 seem to have seen it. And it's somewhere in the 00:09:22.679 --> 00:09:24.899 ballpark of a client list. OK, so that leads 00:09:24.899 --> 00:09:27.980 to the big question. Why would the administration 00:09:27.980 --> 00:09:30.919 try to bury the document, as the source put it? 00:09:31.019 --> 00:09:32.899 Well, it probably doesn't only name Democrats, 00:09:33.059 --> 00:09:35.580 right? because Trump would likely release that 00:09:35.580 --> 00:09:38.200 in a heartbeat. Right. So the possibilities seem 00:09:38.200 --> 00:09:41.059 to be either it implicates one or more Republicans, 00:09:41.299 --> 00:09:43.980 maybe even Trump himself, or maybe it doesn't 00:09:43.980 --> 00:09:45.919 directly implicate anyone in crimes, but just 00:09:45.919 --> 00:09:48.639 having names on any list associated with Epstein, 00:09:48.980 --> 00:09:50.639 including almost certainly Trump's own name, 00:09:50.740 --> 00:09:53.320 would be damaging. The conclusion drawn in the 00:09:53.320 --> 00:09:55.019 material is that Trump is probably protecting 00:09:55.019 --> 00:09:57.100 himself here, but leaving the fallout from a 00:09:57.100 --> 00:09:59.799 potential cover -up is less bad than being tied 00:09:59.799 --> 00:10:02.200 more closely to Epstein. It really shows the 00:10:02.200 --> 00:10:04.340 calculations involved in controlling a story. 00:10:04.600 --> 00:10:06.879 Yeah, it becomes less about what's actually on 00:10:06.879 --> 00:10:09.139 the list and more about the political damage 00:10:09.139 --> 00:10:11.879 from its existence being known. Okay, our final 00:10:11.879 --> 00:10:14.399 segment today looks at a really significant change 00:10:14.399 --> 00:10:18.200 involving churches and politics. The IRS recently 00:10:18.200 --> 00:10:20.710 got rid of a long -standing rule. The one that 00:10:20.710 --> 00:10:23.049 could strip tax -exempt status from churches 00:10:23.049 --> 00:10:25.710 if they endorsed political candidates. You know, 00:10:25.730 --> 00:10:28.090 in the past, conservative pastors often found 00:10:28.090 --> 00:10:31.190 subtle ways to signal preferences without explicit 00:10:31.190 --> 00:10:33.769 endorsements. This changes that game entirely. 00:10:34.169 --> 00:10:36.389 It does. And the sources really frame this as 00:10:36.389 --> 00:10:38.490 a kind of double -edged sword for the churches 00:10:38.490 --> 00:10:41.110 themselves. Experts like Jane Mayer from The 00:10:41.110 --> 00:10:43.629 New Yorker, Stephen Emert from the Secular Coalition 00:10:43.629 --> 00:10:47.149 of America, they warn it creates this huge loophole 00:10:47.149 --> 00:10:50.159 for even more money in politics. donors could 00:10:50.159 --> 00:10:52.980 get tax breaks for essentially political contributions 00:10:52.980 --> 00:10:55.539 made through churches. And Philip Hackney, a 00:10:55.539 --> 00:10:58.000 law professor at Pitt, adds it could corrupt 00:10:58.000 --> 00:11:00.379 their mission more towards politics and away 00:11:00.379 --> 00:11:03.120 from their true beliefs. So beyond just policy, 00:11:03.259 --> 00:11:05.039 it could actually change the nature of these 00:11:05.039 --> 00:11:07.620 institutions. What about the practical effects 00:11:07.620 --> 00:11:10.320 on congregations? Could mean ministers have less 00:11:10.320 --> 00:11:13.000 time for, you know, spiritual matters, more resources 00:11:13.000 --> 00:11:15.399 going to campaigns. And for the people in the 00:11:15.399 --> 00:11:18.220 pews, Even if they lean right politically, the 00:11:18.220 --> 00:11:20.620 sources suggest it could get exhausting, like 00:11:20.620 --> 00:11:23.039 feeling church services becoming just a long 00:11:23.039 --> 00:11:25.960 political ad for the GOP. And what's really striking 00:11:25.960 --> 00:11:28.679 is the polling data in the sources. It shows 00:11:28.679 --> 00:11:31.500 most believers. across basically all religions 00:11:31.500 --> 00:11:34.059 actually oppose getting rid of the Johnson Amendment. 00:11:34.259 --> 00:11:36.539 That's the rule that was revoked. The numbers 00:11:36.539 --> 00:11:39.500 are pretty overwhelming. 62 % of white evangelicals, 00:11:39.659 --> 00:11:42.899 59 % of black Protestants, 77 % of white mainline 00:11:42.899 --> 00:11:46.419 Protestants, 79 % of white Catholics, 78 % of 00:11:46.419 --> 00:11:48.759 Hispanic Catholics, 72 % of Hispanic Protestants, 00:11:48.899 --> 00:11:52.139 77 % of Jewish Americans. All opposed. There's 00:11:52.139 --> 00:11:54.539 a quote from Reverend Dr. Shannon Fleck of Faithful 00:11:54.539 --> 00:12:00.500 America. She says, remind the sanctity of our 00:12:00.500 --> 00:12:02.080 religious practices as they will to the health 00:12:02.080 --> 00:12:04.559 of our democracy. And she adds, sanctuaries are 00:12:04.559 --> 00:12:06.980 meant for worship, not partisan agendas and politicking. 00:12:07.480 --> 00:12:09.919 Wow, those numbers really tell a story. And this 00:12:09.919 --> 00:12:13.019 policy change, it connects to that growing expangelical 00:12:13.019 --> 00:12:15.320 movement too, doesn't it? And the bigger trend 00:12:15.320 --> 00:12:18.000 over decades, a fewer Americans affiliating as 00:12:18.000 --> 00:12:21.659 Christian, down from 90 % in 1990 to about 63 00:12:21.659 --> 00:12:25.759 % now. The worry is making churches even more 00:12:25.759 --> 00:12:28.139 overtly partisan rather than spiritual might 00:12:28.139 --> 00:12:30.440 just accelerate that trend, might push out people 00:12:30.440 --> 00:12:33.279 who stayed for community or faith, but not necessarily 00:12:33.279 --> 00:12:35.460 for the politics. Yeah, if you tie this into 00:12:35.460 --> 00:12:38.620 the broader theme from the sources, they characterize 00:12:38.620 --> 00:12:41.539 this era of Trumpism as being defined by greed 00:12:41.539 --> 00:12:43.340 and short -term thinking. They draw parallels 00:12:43.340 --> 00:12:45.460 to other groups, politicians, businesses, law 00:12:45.460 --> 00:12:47.919 firms, media that have maybe sold out core principles, 00:12:48.220 --> 00:12:50.340 and the sources end with this really powerful 00:12:50.340 --> 00:12:53.509 idea. The churches cannot serve two masters Trump 00:12:53.509 --> 00:12:56.509 and Jesus Christ and by removing this last obstacle 00:12:56.509 --> 00:12:58.629 to selling out entirely They might actually lose 00:12:58.629 --> 00:13:00.789 many more followers in the long run. It's a profound 00:13:00.789 --> 00:13:02.769 choice. They're facing We certainly covered a 00:13:02.769 --> 00:13:06.210 lot of ground today from those global trade fights 00:13:06.210 --> 00:13:08.769 and constitutional court battles to the nitty 00:13:08.769 --> 00:13:11.409 gritty of gerrymandering and the changing role 00:13:11.409 --> 00:13:14.049 of religion in public life. But what's really 00:13:14.049 --> 00:13:16.269 interesting when you step back is how these things, 00:13:16.289 --> 00:13:18.970 which seem so different, are all connected by 00:13:18.970 --> 00:13:21.750 these undercurrents of power, influence, and 00:13:21.750 --> 00:13:24.870 maybe the mix of personal versus public motives 00:13:24.870 --> 00:13:26.970 driving things. It's not just separate stories. 00:13:27.049 --> 00:13:29.899 It's a pattern. Which leaves a really interesting 00:13:29.899 --> 00:13:32.279 question for you, the listener, to think about 00:13:32.279 --> 00:13:35.559 this pursuit of short -term gain, political or 00:13:35.559 --> 00:13:37.759 personal, that we've seen across all these different 00:13:37.759 --> 00:13:40.779 areas. How might that actually reshape the fundamental 00:13:40.779 --> 00:13:42.980 nature of our institutions over the long haul, 00:13:43.159 --> 00:13:45.220 whether it's international relations, the courts, 00:13:45.740 --> 00:13:49.019 democracy itself, or even the spiritual purpose 00:13:49.019 --> 00:13:50.980 of faith groups? What are the lasting effects? 00:13:51.480 --> 00:13:53.759 Definitely something to chew on. Thanks for joining 00:13:53.759 --> 00:13:56.039 us on this deep dive. We hope you keep digging 00:13:56.039 --> 00:13:57.019 and stay curious.