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Alright, so you're with us today for another

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deep dive and we've got some pretty fascinating

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news articles all dated March 24th, 2025. So

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pretty recent stuff. We're going to kind of pick

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them apart, see what we can learn from them,

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really connect the dots. I think one of the biggest

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themes that emerges is looking at how the Trump

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administration's policies are kind of shaking

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things up, right? And then naturally, what are

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the reactions going to be? How are people going

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to push back? What does this mean for the Democrats

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moving forward? You know, the whole landscape.

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So that's what we're going to be exploring today.

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And it should be pretty interesting to see what

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comes out of all this. Yeah, no, absolutely.

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I think these articles give us a really, really

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interesting albeit kind of scary, look at where

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things stand right now, and things are moving

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fast, maybe even changing in some pretty fundamental

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ways. So yeah, let's jump right in. I think it

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makes sense to start with Trump's approach to

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immigration, which is, shall we say, making some

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waves. Definitely. It seems like there's a huge

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focus on deportations now. We're talking about

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potentially over half a million immigrants being

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targeted for deportation, specifically folks

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who came from Haiti, Venezuela, Cuba and Nicaragua.

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And what's interesting is they all entered the

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U .S. legally under this Biden era parole program.

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And the whole point of that program was to actually

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decrease illegal immigration, you know, by giving

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them temporary legal status for a couple of years.

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All right. And one of the authors makes this

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really striking Harrison, they say it's like

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trying to reduce jaywalking by just getting rid

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of crosswalks altogether. I mean, if you take

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away the legal pathway, it doesn't just make

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people disappear, they still need to get somewhere.

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Kind of just pushing them further into the shadows,

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making the whole situation even more complicated.

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Exactly. And we're talking big numbers here,

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like 213 ,000 people from Haiti, 120 ,700 from

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Venezuela, 110 ,900 from Cuba, and another 93

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,000 from Nicaragua. Their legal status expires

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on April 24th, and after that, they're basically

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at risk of being deported through this expedited

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removal process, which is, from what I understand,

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much harsher. It really limits their ability

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to appeal, to fight the deportation in court.

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It's like fewer legal protections all around.

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Yeah, it definitely raises some serious questions

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about due process. You've got hundreds of thousands

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of people potentially facing deportation with

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limited legal options. It's going to be, well,

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chaotic, as one of the advocates, Karen Tumlin,

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puts it. the Justice Action Center. They're already

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suing the administration over this. Yeah, and

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there's this, I don't know, kind of cynical observation

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in one of the articles about Ukrainian refugees.

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You know, at one point, there was talk of revoking

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their parole status, too. There are about 240

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,000 of them. But so far, nothing's happened.

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And the author makes this pointed comment saying,

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well, maybe it's because Ukrainians are white,

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and then they throw in that line, you know, all

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immigrants are equal, but some are less equal

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than others. Can't help but wonder if there's

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some truth to that, you know? It's definitely

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thought -provoking. And tying it back to the

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bigger picture, the article suggests this is

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all kind of low -hanging fruit for the Trump

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administration. These are people from countries

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he's criticized in the past, and because they

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registered for the parole program, the government

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knows exactly where they are. I mean, what article

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even mentions the possibility of publishing their

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names and like encouraging employers to fire

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them? Pretty extreme stuff. It is. And of course,

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Trump is all over social media saying these actions

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are solving the immigration crisis, you know,

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using his executive power to push through these.

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pretty sweeping policy changes. Now, moving on,

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another big theme that jumps out is this concerted

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effort to dismantle, like, really take apart

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Lyndon Johnson's Great Society programs. And

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it's not just tinkering around the edges. It

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seems like a very deliberate, systematic effort

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to weaken or even eliminate programs in areas

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like voting rights, desegregation, environmental

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protection, education, affirmative action, health

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care, you name it. It's a pretty fundamental

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shift in how the government sees this role in

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dealing with inequality. like going back to a

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time before the New Deal when it was more about

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individual and state responsibility. I mean,

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just to give you some examples, they revoked

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Johnson's 1965 executive order on equal opportunity

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for federal contractors, like right out of the

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gate. They're reallowing segregated federal facilities.

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They're undermining the Department of Education,

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which, of course, manages all those scholarships

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and loans created by Johnson's Higher Education

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Act. And there's a good chance they'll support

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deep cuts to Medicare and Medicaid. And on top

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of all that, they're pushing for voting restrictions,

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which is, you know, the complete opposite of

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what Johnson was trying to do with the Voting

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Rights Act. They're like they're going after

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the very foundation of these programs. And one

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author puts it pretty bluntly, saying Trump wants

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to make America great again, like it was before

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the Great Society, maybe say the 1950s or the

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1850s. It's a pretty stark assessment, but you

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can see where they're coming from. And it seems

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like this is driven by that deep -seated belief

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among small government conservatives that these

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programs were always overreach, you know, that

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the federal government just got too big and too

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involved in people's lives and now they have

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the opportunity to really roll back the clock

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on decades of social progress. But, you know,

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it's not all one sided. The articles also talk

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about how states might be able to push back against

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this. Yeah, that's a fascinating angle. The argument

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is that Trump has been trying to weaken these

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traditional power centers in the U .S. Congress,

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the media, law firms, universities, by kind of

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picking them off one by one. But states are different.

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They have their own governments, their own resources.

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And the Supreme Court has often sided with states

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against the federal government in the past. And

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they give this example of the conflict with Maine

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over transgender girls in sports. Trump wanted

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to ban them, but the governor, Janet Mills, refused,

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and the administration threatened to withhold

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federal funding, you know, money that Maine is

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legally entitled to. It shows you the kind of

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tension that can arise. But the articles propose

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this interesting counter -strategy. What if you

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had a bunch of Democratic governors, maybe even

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some Republicans who believe in states' rights,

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what if they all banded together and said, no,

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we're not doing this? You know, they could file

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lawsuits, launch PR campaigns, even put financial

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pressure on the federal government. Like encouraging

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people to delay their tax payments. It's a bold

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idea for sure. But there's something to that

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safety in numbers logic, right? If enough states

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and individuals participate, it could really

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throw a wrench into things. It would be a high

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stakes gamble, but it shows you the power that

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states potentially have. And speaking of legal

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challenges, the articles highlight two specific

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lawsuits out of like 132 that have been filed

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against the Trump administration that are particularly

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important to watch. Yeah, these are being seen

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as a real test of whether the Supreme Court is

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going to stand up to the executive branch or

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just go along with whatever Trump wants. The

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first case is about impoundment, which basically

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means the president refusing to spend money that

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Congress has already approved. And the legal

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arguments against impoundment seem pretty strong.

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I mean, the president's oath of office says he

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has to faithfully execute the laws, right? And

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that includes spending laws. Plus, there's this

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law, the Impoundment Control Act of 1974, that

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says the president has to get approval from Congress

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if he doesn't want to spend the money. And they

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quote a couple of Supreme Court justices from

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before they were on the court, of course. John

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Roberts in 1985 said, No area seems more clearly

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the province of Congress than the power of the

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purse. And Brett Kavanaugh in 2013 wrote that

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even the president does not have unilateral authority

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to refuse to spend money that Congress has appropriated.

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So it'll be interesting to see how they rule

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on this, because if the court sides with Trump,

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it really weakens Congress's power of the purse.

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And it basically means more power for the executive

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branch. You know, that whole separation of powers

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thing is at stake here. The other big case is

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about birthright citizenship. Can the president

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just ignore the 14th Amendment and say, nope,

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certain babies born in the U .S. aren't citizens

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anymore? The amendment says pretty clearly all

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persons born or naturalized in the United States

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and subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens

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of the United States. Right. And they explain

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that subject to the jurisdiction thereof means

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almost everyone born here, including children

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of undocumented immigrants, because, well, they're

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subject to U .S. law. The Supreme Court even

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ruled on this in the past in a case called United

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States v. Wong Kim Arc. They said the only real

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exception is children of foreign diplomats. So,

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yeah, this case is a big deal. One article even

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says that if the court sides with Trump on either

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of these cases, the impoundment one or the birthright

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citizenship one, it could be. the end of democracy

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and the start of autocracy. I mean, that's a

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pretty scary thought. It definitely highlights

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how important independent judiciary is. And looking

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ahead, the articles also raise this concern that

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even if Democrats win everything in 2029, the

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presidency, the House, the Senate, it might be

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really hard to undo all the damage that's been

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done. Yeah, they're saying that Trump is basically

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restructuring the entire federal government.

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It's like an FDR level overhaul. It's not just

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about revoking a few executive orders. You have

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all these experienced government people who've

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been fired or quit. And it's going to be tough

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to find replacements, especially if people are

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worried about getting purged if the next administration

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changes. So one idea they propose is to strengthen

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civil service protections, you know, make it

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harder for presidents to just fire people for

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political reasons, give people more legal recourse

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if they are unfairly targeted. It's about making

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sure the government has a stable expert workforce,

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no matter who's in charge. Now, shifting gears

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a bit, there's this upcoming election in Wisconsin

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for the state Supreme Court that's getting a

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lot of attention. It's seen as a really important

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bellwether race. It's a 10 year term, and it'll

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decide whether the court leans liberal or conservative.

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And even though it's supposed to be nonpartisan.

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It's become super nationalized. Trump has endorsed

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the conservative candidate Brad Schimel and Elon

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Musk has poured over 12 million dollars into

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supporting him. And Musk's tactics are pretty

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interesting. He's been offering people in Wisconsin

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100 bucks for their email addresses and home

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addresses, supposedly for a petition drive. But

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it's pretty clear he's just building a voter

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database. Democrats are calling it buying votes

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and it definitely raises some ethical questions.

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It's a lot of money to throw around. And it shows

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how much influence wealthy individuals can have

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in these state -level races. And the articles

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also talk about how nasty the campaign has gotten

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on both sides, you know, a lot of personal attacks

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and negativity, just like we see in national

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politics. This election matters because the Wisconsin

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Supreme Court is going to be deciding on things

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like abortion, gerrymandering, the voting rights.

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So the stakes are pretty high. And it's worth

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remembering that a Trump endorsement isn't a

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sure thing. In 2023, a candidate he opposed actually

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won a Wisconsin Supreme Court race by a landslide.

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So it'll be fascinating to see what happens this

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time around. Now, switching over to the Democratic

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Party, the articles do a bit of a postmortem

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on the 2024 election and where the party stands

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now. And the overall picture isn't pretty. They

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talk to some top Democrats. And there are a lot

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of different explanations for why Kamala Harris

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lost. Some people blame Biden for running again

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at 80 years old. Others say Harris was just a

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bad candidate, that she didn't do enough to distinguish

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herself from Biden, who wasn't very popular,

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and that she ran an old school campaign, ignoring

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things like podcasts and social media. They also

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say the Democrats didn't do a good job of fighting

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back against Republican attacks on wokeness,

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you know, things like transgender issues. And

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there's a sense that the party has become too

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elitist, too focused on catering to special interest

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groups. And some people say they just couldn't

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match Trump's, well, his testosterone, his ability

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to dominate the conversation. And of course,

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the economy wasn't great and inflation was a

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big issue and the border was a mess. And you

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can't forget that Trump just has this certain

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appeal to some voters and maybe Harris was just

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the wrong candidate at the wrong time. It's a

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lot for the Democrats to digest. They're basically

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going through an identity crisis, trying to figure

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out what went wrong and where to go from here.

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And one thing that keeps coming up is this idea

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that They're just not connecting with enough

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voters anymore. Yeah, they lost the presidency.

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They lost the Senate. And there's a lot of frustration

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among Democratic voters that their leaders in

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Congress aren't doing enough to oppose Trump

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and people like Musk. It's like they've lost

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that sense of unity and purpose they had during

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the resistance years. And some Democrats are

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even starting to openly criticize the leadership.

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Senator Michael Bennett kind of hinted that Chuck

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Schumer should step down as Senate Majority Leader,

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and a CNN poll found that 52 % of Democratic

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-leaning voters think the party leadership is

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going in the wrong direction. So you have people

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like AOC and Bernie Sanders going on their fighting

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oligarchy tour and drawing big crowds. And there's

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talk about AOC maybe challenging Schumer in a

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primary in twenty twenty eight or maybe Chris

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Murphy taking over sooner. And then you have

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this upcoming special election in Arizona's seventh

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district, which is seen as a kind of test case

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for the party's direction, you know, whether

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they're going to go more progressive or stick

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with a more centrist approach. It's definitely

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a period of transition and uncertainty for the

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Democrats. Now let's talk about Elon Musk. The

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article suggests that his close relationship

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with Trump could be very profitable for his businesses.

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Yeah, even though Tesla stock has taken a hit

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since Musk started cozying up to Trump, his companies

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are in line to receive billions of dollars in

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government contracts. For example, there's $42

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billion set aside for expanding high -speed Internet

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in rural areas, which would be a huge boost for

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Musk's Starlink satellite Internet service. And

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then there's always the possibility of SpaceX

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getting more lucrative contracts from NASA. So

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you have to wonder if this is the payoff for

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that 300 million dollars Musk donated to Trump's

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campaign. Watchdog groups like the Project on

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Government Oversight are warning about the potential

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for abusive power and corruption. It just doesn't

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look good when a major political donor gets billions

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of dollars in government contracts after helping

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that politician get elected. And there's a chance

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this could backfire on Musk. You know, his competitors

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like Blue Origin and Boeing are going to be pretty

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unhappy and regular people might see it as a

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quid pro quo. The Democrats could really try

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to make this an issue. Now, lastly, there's this

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interesting development with the Southern District

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of New York, the SDNY. The SDNY is known for

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being this really powerful and independent prosecutor's

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office. But Trump just appointed Jay Clayton

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to run it. And Clayton is a former SEC head with

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zero experience as a prosecutor. So the big question

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is, is he going to keep the SDNY independent

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or is he going to use it to go after Trump's

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enemies in New York? And Clayton's history is

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kind of mixed. His law firm has represented Trump

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in the past, which is already raising eyebrows.

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And there are rumors that he was involved in

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some shady dealings that led to the previous

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acting head of the SDNY resigning. So you can

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see why people are worried that politics might

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be influencing decisions at the SDNY. But Clayton

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also have this track record of supporting diversity

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and inclusion efforts at the SEC. And he focused

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on protecting everyday investors. And he's friends

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with a former Manhattan district attorney who

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investigated Trump. So who knows? It's really

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hard to say what kind of leader he'll be at the

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SDNY, but it's a powerful office and the potential

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for politicization is definitely a concern. And

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just to throw in one last interesting tidbit,

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Trump is basically on the ballot in Canada right

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now. The new prime minister, Mark Carney, called

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a snap election for April 28th. And the main

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issue is how to deal with Trump. Carney has been

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very critical of Trump, saying things like, President

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Trump claims that Canada isn't a real country.

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He wants to break us so America can own us. So

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this election is basically about whether the

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liberals under Carney or the conservatives under

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Pierre Poilier are better equipped to stand up

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to Trump. And it'll be interesting to see how

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Trump reacts if Carney wins with a strong anti

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-Trump mandate. You know, will he retaliate with

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tariffs or start a trade war? Canadian elections

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are usually pretty short and polite compared

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to ours. So this one is going to be pretty unique.

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Yeah, it's not every day that a U .S. president

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becomes a major issue in another country's election.

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So that's a wrap on our deep dive for today.

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We've covered a lot of ground. Trump's immigration

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crackdown, his efforts to dismantle the Great

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Society, potential for states to push back those

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crucial Supreme Court cases, the Democrats identity

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crisis, Elon Musk's growing influence, the SDNY

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situation, and even Trump's impact on Canadian

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politics. It's a lot to process. And it shows

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you how quickly things are changing and how interconnected

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everything is. The decisions being made right

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now, both in the U .S. and internationally, could

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have a lasting impact on how our government functions

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and how we relate to the rest of the world. So

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for you, our listener, as you think about all

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these events, the policy changes, the legal battles,

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the political maneuvering, what do you think

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is the most important factor that will shape

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the future? It's a question worth pondering as

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these stories continue to unfold. Thanks for

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joining us.
