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Man, sometimes it feels like the world is just

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moving way too fast. Yeah. And it's almost impossible

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to keep up with what's really important, you

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know, without getting totally overwhelmed with

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all the noise. Absolutely. That's why we're taking

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a deep dive today. That's right. Into some really

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key materials that we've gathered. Legal stuff,

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some really interesting economic analysis from

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the team over at KKR. And then also a briefing

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document that kind of ties it all together. Yeah.

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hopefully we can get a better sense of what's

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actually going on. Exactly. We're going beyond

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just like the headlines and the surface level

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stuff. We're really gonna dig deep into some

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of the big changes that we've seen lately in

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the legal world, the economy, education, all

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kind of as of late March 2025. And the goal is

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really to connect the dots between these things

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that might seem totally separate at first glance

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and try to pull out the insights that are gonna

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matter most for you guys. for you to really understand

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what's happening right now and get ready for

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some surprises along the way. OK, I love surprises.

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Some little ha -ha moments. Some ha -ha moments,

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OK? We should have a sound effect for that. Yeah,

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we should. All right. Yeah, we'll get to those.

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OK, let's unpack all of this. OK. Starting, I

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guess, with the legal front, where things have

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gotten pretty spicy recently, one case that really

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stood out to me involves the Trump administration

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and Judge James Bosberg. All right. And it's

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about information related to flights to Venezuela.

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And it seems like things have gotten really kind

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of aggressive. Yeah, the thing that's so fascinating

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here is just how openly the administration has

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been defying a court order. Yeah. It's not even

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just like, oh, they're slow rolling the information.

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You know, they're like taking their time. The

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language in their legal filings has been so...

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so insulting towards the judge. Give me an example.

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Like one of the things they said was it was a

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Paclunian dispute over the micromanagement of

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immaterial fact -finding. Wow. They accused the

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judge of engaging in like unnecessary judicial

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phishing expeditions. Okay, so really, really

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disrespectful. It's wild. This is not the kind

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of language you usually see in these documents.

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Okay, so I'm guessing Judge Boesberg didn't just

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let that go, right? What was his reaction? No,

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not at all. He shot back pretty directly. Basically

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said, the information you provided is woefully

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insufficient and set a very hard deadline for

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them to give him what he wants. Okay, so real

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showdown brewing there. Yeah, absolutely. So

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what are the consequences if they don't actually

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meet those deadlines? Now, I know it can be tough

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to hold a a former president directly in contempt,

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what about his legal team, the people around

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him? So this brings up the question of where

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does the court's power actually reach? And like

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you said, holding a former president in contempt

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has its own complexities, which we don't need

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to get into all of that. But their lawyers, the

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people working for them, they are definitely

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within the court's reach. Like retired federal

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judge Shira Scheinlein has said, if they fail

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to comply with these orders, if they provide

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false information, they could be hit with criminal

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contempt charges. Now whether that actually happens

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is another question. Given who's running the

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Justice Department right now, AG Pem Bondi, it

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seems pretty unlikely. Okay, so criminal contempt's

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maybe a long shot. What other options does Judge

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Bosberg have then? Civil contempt is definitely

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on the table. And that can get pretty serious.

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That could mean jail time, which would definitely

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get their attention. It could mean hefty fines

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that could add up really quickly. And probably

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the most like, professionally damaging thing

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would be a referral to the bar for disciplinary

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action. Right. So they could potentially lose

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their law licenses. Oh, wow. And this is important.

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Even a presidential pardon wouldn't protect them

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from that. So a pardon wouldn't cover that? No,

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a pardon wouldn't cover the loss of their bar

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card. OK. So that's a pretty powerful tool. Wow.

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I mean, it's kind of wild to see lawyers taking

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these risks. Yeah, it's a big gamble for sure.

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Yeah, it really shows you how high the stakes

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are. Absolutely. On a kind of related note, Chief

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Justice John Roberts actually made a really unusual

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public statement recently that I thought was

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pretty interesting. What's fascinating about

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this is that Roberts almost never weighs in publicly

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like this. Right. And he did it in response to

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some Republicans calling for Boasberg to be impeached.

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OK. So, you know, he put out this very short

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two sentence statement and he said, for more

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than two centuries, it has been established that

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impeachment is not not an appropriate response

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to disagreement concerning a judicial decision.

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The normal appellate review process exists for

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that purpose. That's a pretty clear message.

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Yeah. No ambiguity there. No. He's defending

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the courts. And this isn't the first time he's

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done that, right? Not at all. He's been pretty

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consistent in defending the independence of the

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judiciary. Even going back to when Trump was

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president, like in 2018, he issued a similar

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warning. OK. So he clearly sees these attacks

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on judges as a threat to the whole system. Yeah,

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and it makes it even more interesting that Judge

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Boesberg, I mean, he's kind of a weird target

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for this kind of attack, isn't he? Totally. If

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you look at his background, he's not some partisan

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hack. Right. He was appointed by both Bush and

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Obama. OK. Even Roberts has a lot of respect

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for him. He's appointed him to a bunch of important

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roles, like being the chief judge of the FISA

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court. And get this, he was actually college

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roommates with Brett Kavanaugh. Wow, okay. So

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this is not some radical figure. He's a really

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lousy target for the administration to go after.

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It's almost like they only really care about

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decisions that come straight from the Supreme

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Court. Right, like that's the only court that

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matters to them. probably because they think

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they have that 6 -3 majority locked in. But they

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might be miscalculating here, because if this

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Boasberg case actually makes it to the Supreme

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Court, there are at least a couple of those conservative

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justices who have shown that they're not afraid

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to go against the administration. Interesting.

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So it might not be the slam dunk they're hoping

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for. All right, well, let's shift gears a little

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bit, but stay on the legal thing. There's this

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whole situation with the Pol Weiss law firm.

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Yeah. That honestly sounds like something out

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of a movie. It's pretty wild. It's like a political

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thriller or something. It really is. The administration

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is basically targeting this law firm. Right.

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Because one of their former partners, Mark Pomerantz,

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was involved in some investigations related to

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President Trump. Yeah, he was part of those investigations.

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So what did they do? Like, how did they target

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the firm? So they issued an executive order that

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basically stripped the firm of its security clearances.

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Wow. And that makes it incredibly difficult for

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them to work on any federal cases or even interact

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with federal government employees. So they're

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basically shut out. Yeah, they're pretty much

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frozen out. And it seems like this is about more

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than just punishing this one firm. Oh, absolutely.

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It sends a really chilling message to any organization

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that might even think about investigating the

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administration. Right, don't even think about

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it. Or opposing them in any way. It's a huge

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power play. So how did Paul Weiss respond to

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this? Pretty intense pressure. Well, they basically

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caved. OK. You know, they were facing huge pressure,

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reportedly losing clients. Right. And they ended

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up making a bunch of concessions. Like what?

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So they formally apologized for Pomerance's wrongdoing.

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Wow. They agreed to scrap their DEI efforts,

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their diversity, equity, and inclusion programs.

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And they promised to do $40 million worth of

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pro bono legal work for the government. Oh, wow.

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And I remember it was specifically pro bono work

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related to combating anti -Semitism and assisting

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veterans. But there's some real skepticism about

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whether that anti -Semitism claim was genuine.

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Oh, yeah, totally. I mean, if you look at the

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administration's own history, there are connections

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to some pretty questionable figures. The idea

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that this was really about fighting anti -Semitism

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just doesn't hold water. It seems much more like

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they forced this concession out of the firm.

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It's a pretty messed up situation. Yeah, one

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of our sources said, the whole thing stinks to

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high heaven. I can see why they would say that.

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You know, it's setting a dangerous precedent.

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Right. Can you hold a law firm responsible for

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what a former partner does? Right. And can the

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president really use executive power to extract

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these kinds of concessions? Yeah, it's pretty

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worried. It is. But the thing is, even if some

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of those provisions are legally dubious, challenging

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them in court takes a a lot of time and money,

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and that's probably what the administration's

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counting on. Wear them down. Exactly. And it

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sounds like Paul Weiss might not be the only

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firm facing this kind of pressure. Unfortunately,

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no. There are rumors that other firms are in

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the administration's sights. Hm. That's not a

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good trend. No, not at all. It's pretty concerning

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for the legal profession as a whole. Yeah. OK.

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Well, on a slightly lighter note, there's this

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Schadenfreude story this week that I just had

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to share. Oh, yeah. This is a good one. It's

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just too perfect. It really is. So this Minnesota

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state senator, Justin Eichhorn, he actually introduced

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a bill to try to classify what he called Trump

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derangement syndrome as a mental illness. You

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can't make this stuff up. I know, right? Too

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good. And he defined it as, like, an acute onset

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of paranoia in reaction to the policies and presidencies

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of President Donald J. Trump. Wow. So anyone

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who disagrees with Trump is basically mentally

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ill? That's the gist of it, yeah. OK. But. Here's

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the best part. What happened? So shortly after

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introducing this bill, Senator Eichhorn, who

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is a married father of four. Oh, wow. He gets

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caught up in this whole, like, online solicitation

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thing. Oh, no. But he's messaging someone he

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thinks is a 17 -year -old girl. Oh, dear. Sending

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messages like, chance you are still available

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tonight. And what's a guy got to do to get with

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the hottest girl online tonight? Oh, my. Of course,

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it turns out it's an undercover police detective.

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Classic. So he shows up for the meeting with

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with like $129 in a condom. Oh no. And he gets

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busted. Wow. Arrested for soliciting a minor.

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So what happened to him? Well, he immediately

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resigned from the state Senate. OK. And reportedly,

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his wife is planning to file for divorce. Talk

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about a fall from grace. Yeah, it's pretty, pretty

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wild. That's comma for you. Yeah, I guess so.

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All right. Well, let's move on to the economy.

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Yeah, let's talk money, money, money, money.

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So we've got this analysis from KKR about the

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March 2025 FOMC meeting. That's the Federal Open

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Market Committee. Right, the Fed. Yeah, the Fed.

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And it seems like they're painting a pretty complicated

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picture. Yeah, things are definitely getting

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interesting. So what did the Fed actually do

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at this meeting? Okay, so the big decision was

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they kept interest rates unchanged, which everyone

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was expecting, but they did announce a pretty

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big slowdown in the pace of quantitative tightening.

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Okay, and for our listeners who might not be

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total economics nerds, can you explain what quantitative

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tightening actually is? Sure, so basically it's

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like the opposite of quantitative easing, which

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is what the Fed did during those crisis periods.

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They pumped a ton of money into the economy.

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Quantitative tightening is when they start pulling

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their money back out. OK, so they're slowing

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down that process. Right. They reduced it from

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$25 billion per month down to just $5 billion

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per month starting in April. And that's a bigger

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and earlier reduction than a lot of people, including

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KKR, were expecting. Interesting. So what about

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the Fed's overall assessment of the economy?

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It sounds like they've changed their tune a bit.

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Yeah, they've definitely adjusted their forecasts.

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So they put out these projections. It's called

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the dot clot, which basically shows where each

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Fed official thinks the economy's headed. Right.

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And they've downgraded their expectations for

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economic growth in both 2025 and 2026. So they're

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expecting slower growth. Right, slower growth.

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But at the same time, they've actually raised

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their inflation forecasts for those same years.

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So slower growth and higher inflation. That's

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the picture they're painting. But they're still

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predicting two interest rate cuts in both of

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those years. Yeah, that's the thing. It seems

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a little contradictory. It does, right? And that's

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exactly what KKR pointed out in their analysis.

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They think this shows that the Fed is more worried

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about growth slowing down too much than they

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are about inflation getting out of control. Interesting.

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And this fits with their bigger regime change

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thesis. Which is? Basically, they think the fundamental

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drivers of the economy are shifting and that

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we're going to need lower interest rates in the

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long run. Okay, so it sounds like those trade

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disputes and the tariffs are playing a big role

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in this economic picture. Oh, for sure. Yeah.

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Powell himself, the Fed chair, you know, he acknowledged

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that people are really worried about the economy,

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especially because of the ongoing trade war.

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Right. And he even used the word transitory.

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Okay. When he was talking about inflation caused

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by tariffs. Now that word transitory, that's

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a bit loaded, isn't it? It is, especially for

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the Fed. After all that inflation we saw back

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in 2021 to 2023. Yeah, they kept saying it was

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transitory back then. Exactly, not really. So

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KKR thinks that Powell, using that word now,

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means the Fed is pretty confident they can handle

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whatever inflation comes from these tariffs.

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OK, so they think they've got it under control.

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That's what it seems like. And KKR has some specific

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projections about how those tariffs are going

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to hit US growth, right? They do. They're forecasting

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a drag of about 0 .8 percentage points, or 80

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% basis points if you're into the financial jargon

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on US economic growth this year. And they say

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that's directly because of those tariffs. And

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how high do they think those tariffs are going

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to get? They're expecting them to average around

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11%. OK, that's significant. Yeah, it's a pretty

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big hit. And they also say April 2 is a key date

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to watch. OK, why is that? Because that's when

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the administration might announce even more tariffs.

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So things could actually get worse. Potentially,

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yeah. But here's the interesting thing. KKR also

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suggests that these same policies might actually

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create opportunities in other parts of the world.

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Right. It's kind of a weird silver lining. So

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they're talking about a structural opportunity

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emerging outside of the U .S. OK. And that's

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because of those U .S. tariffs and because Europe

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and China are responding differently. So how

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are they responding differently? Well, they're

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both putting in place new fiscal stimulus measures

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while the U .S. is basically tightening its economic

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policy. So it's kind of like they're going in

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in opposite directions. Exactly. And KKR also

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expects the US dollar to keep weakening. OK,

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interesting. So what's the big economic indicator

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that KKR is watching right now? What are they

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really focused on? Productivity. They're specifically

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looking at the data for the first quarter of

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this year, which comes out in late April. And

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they think if productivity takes a hit, that's

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going to put a lot of pressure on the Fed to

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cut interest rates. And it could also be bad

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news for the stock market. OK, so productivity

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is the key thing to watch. That's the one. All

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right, well, let's move on from money to education.

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OK. And it sounds like the Trump administration

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is being super aggressive here. Yeah, they're

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really shaking things up. Really trying to reshape

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the whole higher education system. Yeah, they're

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coming at it from all angles. So let's start

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with those defunding efforts. OK. You've seen

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some pretty huge numbers being thrown around.

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Oh, yeah, some really big cuts. Like, what are

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some examples? Well, Columbia University reportedly

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had about 400 million in federal grants and contracts

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canceled. And the administration said it was

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because they weren't doing enough to fight anti

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-Semitism on campus. And then you've got the

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University of Pennsylvania. They lost $175 million,

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supposedly because of their policies on transgender

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athletes. OK, so those are two pretty big examples.

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Yeah, those are just the tip of the iceberg,

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though. Really? Yeah, there are a bunch of other

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universities under investigation right now. Oh,

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wow. For similar stuff, you know, not dealing

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with anti -Semitism or having controversial diversity

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programs and affirmative action policies. OK,

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and what about that USAID stuff? Oh, yeah, the

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United States Agency for International Right,

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USA. So they've basically been gutted. OK. And

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that's reportedly cost Johns Hopkins University

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something like $800 million. Wow. In existing

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contracts, which has led to a ton of layoffs.

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Oh, wow. It's been a big blow. OK, so legally

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speaking, these defunding moves seem pretty shaky,

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right? Yeah, a lot of legal experts are saying

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that they're saying it could be a breach of contract

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by the government. OK. And that they're not following

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the proper procedures for cutting off funding.

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Right, because normally there's a whole process.

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for that exactly the argument is that the president

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can't just unilaterally cancel these agreements

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right just because he doesn't like what a university

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is doing so it's not as simple as him just saying

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I don't like you no more money right it's not

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that easy okay Donna Lieberman from the NYCLU,

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the New York Civil Liberties Union, she called

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it an unconstitutional attempt to censor speech.

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Wow. But even if the universities have a strong

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legal case, going up against the federal government

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in court is a long and expensive battle. Right.

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And who knows what kind of judge you're going

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to get. Exactly. You could end up with a Trump

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appointee. So that's a big risk for these universities.

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Yeah. It's a tough spot for them. It really is.

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And we've seen some really different responses

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from different universities. Columbia and Georgetown

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come to mind? Yeah, those are two good examples.

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So how did they handle this pressure? Well, Columbia

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basically surrendered. People have called it

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utterly humiliating. They agreed to all sorts

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of demands. Like what? Give me some specifics.

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Well, they're going to discipline students who

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were involved in those pro -Palestinian protests.

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They're adopting a very specific definition of

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anti -Semitism, which could be seen as pretty

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limiting. They're overhauling their admissions

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policies. They're basically putting their Middle

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East studies departments under academic receivership.

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So they're losing control of those departments.

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Pretty much, yeah. Wow. They're increasing the

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presence of police on campus, giving them more

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authority. And they're even banning masks on

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campus, unless you have ID. Wow. That's a lot

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of concessions. It's a pretty comprehensive surrender.

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OK, so what about Georgetown? What do they do?

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Well, Georgetown Law, under Dean William Tremer,

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they put up a much stronger They were facing

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pressure from the acting U .S. attorney to get

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rid of their DEI initiatives, their diversity,

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equity, and inclusion programs. And Trier basically

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said, no way. Okay, so how did he justify that?

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What were his arguments? So he really emphasized

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the idea of academic freedom. saying that the

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government can't tell universities what to teach,

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and he cited the First Amendment. Okay, so free

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speech arguments. Exactly. He also pointed out

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how ironic it was. that a Catholic official was

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threatening Georgetown. Right, because Georgetown

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is a Jesuit institution. Exactly. You know, their

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whole identity is built on this idea of open

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dialogue and intellectual inquiry. And he also

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demanded guarantees that Georgetown faculty and

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staff wouldn't be discriminated against in hiring.

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So it was a really strong defense of the university's

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autonomy. So they stood their ground? They did.

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Okay, so in addition to the defunding stuff,

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there are also reports that the administration

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is targeting foreign -born students and faculty.

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Yeah, that's a really worrying trend. Yeah, it

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seems like it could have some pretty big long

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-term consequences. Oh, absolutely. For universities.

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Yeah, it could really hurt their ability to attract

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global talent. Right. We've seen multiple cases

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of foreign students and faculty at places like

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Columbia, Brown, Georgetown being detained or

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even deported. Wow. And the administration's

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rhetoric is really disturbing. Give me an example.

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They're using terms like terrorists, gang members,

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invaders. Wow. Okay. It's very dehumanizing.

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Yeah, that's pretty extreme. It is. And it's

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creating this climate of fear. Right. On campuses,

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some universities in California are even holding

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training sessions to teach students and faculty

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what to do if ICE agents show up. Oh, wow. So

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they're preparing for that. Yeah, it's getting

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pretty serious. It's a pretty sad state of affairs.

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It is. Okay. So on top of all that, there's this

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report that the administration is actually trying

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to dismantle of the Department of Education.

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I know, it's crazy, right? It's a huge move.

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It is. So how would they even go about doing

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that? Well, Trump apparently signed an executive

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order. OK. Telling the Secretary of Education

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to start shutting the department down. OK. And

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giving control of education back to the states.

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Right. Now, to actually abolish a federal agency,

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you need Congress to sign off on it. OK. But

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the administration's plan seems to be to just

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make the department non -functional. OK, so starved

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of resources. Exactly. Through executive actions

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and budget cuts. And what kind of impact could

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that have? Well, it could really change the way

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education is run in this country. Right. Less

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federal oversight, less federal funding. Yeah,

00:20:08.750 --> 00:20:11.750
it's a big shift. It is. But it could also backfire

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politically. OK. You know, it could be a big

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issue for Democrats in the next election. Right.

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They could use it against the administration.

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Exactly. Now, the administration often tries

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to justify these actions, especially the ones

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targeting universities, by saying it's all about

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fighting anti -Semitism. Right. That's their

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go -to line. But it doesn't seem like that's

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the whole story, does it? No, it feels pretty

00:20:34.069 --> 00:20:36.150
disingenuous. Yeah. I mean, there's been a lot

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of criticism of that claim. Oh, yeah. One of

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our sources put it perfectly. They quoted Gary

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Cooper and said, it's so phony. Nobody believes

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it. I mean, that's pretty blunt. Yeah, but it's

00:20:47.109 --> 00:20:50.049
true. OK, so if it's not really about anti -Semitism,

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what is it actually about then? Well, it seems

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like it's part of these broader culture wars.

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OK. You know, there's a deep resentment of universities

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within the Republican Party. They see them as

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these bastions of liberalism. And there's also

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resentment from voters who didn't go to college.

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Right. They feel like these universities are

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out of touch. Yeah. And then you've got the fact

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that universities teach critical thinking. They

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expose students to different perspectives. And

00:21:17.000 --> 00:21:19.680
that often clashes with the MAGA worldview. Yeah,

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so they're seen as a threat. Exactly. One commentator

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said, it's not really fighting anti -Semitism

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V1 .0. It's more like culture wars, V by 4553

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by 96. So it's just the latest iteration? Yeah,

00:21:34.160 --> 00:21:37.059
it's the same old fight, just a new battleground.

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And there could even be national security implications

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here, right? Oh yeah, potentially big ones. Like

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what? Well, if you weaken American universities,

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you're basically shooting yourself in the foot.

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You're making it harder to educate the best and

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brightest, to do cutting -edge research, and

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that could ultimately make the U .S. less competitive

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globally. Especially against countries like China.

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Exactly. They're the ones who stand to benefit.

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Okay, so amidst all this pretty heavy stuff.

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Yeah. There was one little story of Froudenfreude

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that I wanted to share. Oh yeah, the fish doorbell.

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Yes, tell me about this. This is such a cool

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story. Okay. So in Utrecht, in the Netherlands,

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they had this problem with fish. Okay. They couldn't

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get through this lock on the canal. Right. During

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their spawning season. So they could reproduce.

00:22:23.289 --> 00:22:25.539
Exactly. Okay, so what did they do? I'm guessing

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they didn't just like ignore the problem? No,

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they came up with this brilliant solution. They

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set up a website with a live underwater webcam.

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So you can see the fish? Yeah, you can see the

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fish swimming around. And then there's this button

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that anyone in the world can click to let the

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lock keeper know that there are fish waiting

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to go through. So basically a doorbell for fish.

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Exactly, a fish doorbell. That's awesome. It's

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so cool and it's been super successful. Really?

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Yeah, millions of people have used it.
