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Welcome back everybody.

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For today's deep dive, you sent over some fascinating articles

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about the US government budget showdown

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and also some market analysis.

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So should be an interesting one.

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Definitely a lot to unpack there.

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Yeah, so if you're trying to figure out

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what exactly went down in Washington,

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how the markets are reacting to it all,

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this is the place to be.

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Absolutely, and it's pretty remarkable.

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We almost had another government shutdown.

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You know, Congress really waited

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until the last possible second.

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Yeah, they really did.

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They passed that budget bill just in time,

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though I did think it was kind of weird

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that technically we're still gonna have a shutdown

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for a few hours.

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Yeah, a few hours during off hours.

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So should be pretty minimal impact.

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But yeah, this whole thing was a really close call

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and it really kind of highlights the,

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I guess the deep partisan divide in Congress.

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Yeah, for sure.

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This budget bill is basically just a temporary fix.

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It keeps the funding at the current levels

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only until March 14th of next year.

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So they're just kicking the can down the road

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a little bit longer.

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Yeah.

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Delaying the inevitable.

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So who are the real winners and losers

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in this budget deal?

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I mean, on the surface it looks like

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both the Democrats and Republicans

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got some of what they wanted.

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Yeah, there was a little something for everyone,

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it seems like.

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The Democrats got $100 billion in disaster aid,

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which was really important to them.

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Right.

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Republicans, on the other hand,

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they got 10 billion in farm aid.

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Something they've been pushing for.

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Okay.

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But you know, it's interesting

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is what didn't make it into the final bill.

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Oh, that's a good point.

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What kind of things were left out?

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Well, for one, the debt ceiling wasn't suspended,

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which was a major demand from former President Trump,

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and the bill also went through a huge reduction.

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It went from 1,500 pages all the way down to 500 pages.

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That's a lot of pork that got cut.

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Yeah, wow, that is quite the reduction.

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Yeah.

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Any specific cuts that stood out to you?

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Yeah, actually a few.

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One was that they tried to ease E15 gasoline sales

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and that ended up failing,

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which is bad news for Iowa corn farmers

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and of course for Senator Joni Ernst,

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who'd been advocating for it.

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Then there were those proposed regulations

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on pharmacy benefit managers and social media companies,

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specifically those dealing with revenge porn.

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Well, those got taken out too.

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Senator Ted Cruz insists that he had nothing to do

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with Elon Musk and Donald Trump's business interests

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when it comes to those social media regulations

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being removed, but you know, it does make you think.

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Yeah, it really does.

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Speaking of Trump and Musk,

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their responses to this budget deal

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were pretty different.

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Trump, who seemed to be pushing for a shutdown at first,

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has been totally silent since it passed,

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almost like he's not happy with it.

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Yeah, very different from Elon Musk,

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who publicly praised Speaker Mike Johnson on ex Twitter,

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you know, for getting the deal done.

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He did end his post with kind of an ambiguous line though.

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He said, ball should now be in the dem court.

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Given that the Republicans will control both the House

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and the Senate and the presidency come January,

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it's hard to tell what exactly he means by that.

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He's just trying to stir the pot a little bit.

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Well, he's been doing a lot of that lately.

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Do you see he also endorsed a German political party

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with ties to neo-Nazis?

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I did see that yet.

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But getting back to the budget deal, the clock is ticking.

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They've only got till March 14th

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until this temporary fix runs out,

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and it sounds like the next round of negotiations

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could be even more complicated.

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March 14th is definitely a date to circle on the calendar.

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You've got the Republican party

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dealing with these internal divisions.

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There's a potential leadership change,

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maybe a new speaker of the House who's inexperienced.

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Plus, last time around, everyone was in a rush

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to avoid a shutdown before the holidays,

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that saving Christmas pressure is gone now,

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which might make some groups really dig in

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and fight even harder for what they want.

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Yeah, and then of course you've got the wild cards,

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Trump and Musk, who always seem to enjoy shaking things up.

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Yeah, they always keep things interesting.

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Former President Trump may not be in office,

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but he's still incredibly influential

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in the Republican party.

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Absolutely.

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And Elon Musk is clearly getting more and more

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involved in politics, particularly within the GOP.

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His endorsement of Speaker Johnson

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definitely says something about his intentions,

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but it's hard to say what his real motives are.

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Yeah, his actions always seem to grab headlines.

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And those headlines sometimes make you question his judgment.

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Like recently endorsing that German political party

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linked to neo-Nazis, that race of eyebrows.

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It's a little concerning, to be honest.

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I can't help but think all this political drama

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must be affecting how consumers feel.

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If people are unsure about what's going to happen,

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they're probably less likely to spend money,

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which could have a big impact on the whole economy.

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Right, and the Schwab report actually

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touches on those concerns too.

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They're saying there's a chance of increased volatility

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in the markets because of all this political

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and economic uncertainty.

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They also talk about the possible impact

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of rising interest rates.

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That's right, they specifically mention that as a concern,

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especially for certain businesses and industries

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that are really sensitive to interest rate changes.

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Exactly, rising interest rates kind of have this domino effect.

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They make it pricier for companies

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to borrow money, which can slow down growth and investment.

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But at the same time, rising interest rates

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make bonds look better to investors,

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which might mean money gets pulled out of the stock market.

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So it sounds like we're in a bit of a waiting game.

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Inflation is cooling off a little, which is good news,

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but there's still a lot of uncertainty in the air

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politically, economically, and how consumers will react

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to all this.

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What are your thoughts on where things might go

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in the next few months?

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Well, it really does feel like we're watching

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some kind of financial drama unfold.

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And in the background, you've got this political thriller

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of the budget battle going on.

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And the stakes are really high.

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The decisions that get made the next few months,

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both by politicians and regular people like you listening,

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they're going to have a real impact on the economy.

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It's a lot to take in.

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So let's try to connect the dots a bit.

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We have this March 14th deadline coming up

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when the temporary budget deal runs out.

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What could make these next budget negotiations

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even harder than the ones we just went through?

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Yeah, well, as we've talked about,

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the Republican Party is really divided right now.

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They're having this big internal power struggle.

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It's not even clear who's going to come out on top.

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And on top of that, we might have a brand new speaker

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at the house who doesn't have a lot of experience.

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That definitely adds to the uncertainty.

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A new speaker who's not familiar with all the ins and outs

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of how things work in Congress could really complicate things.

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And remember last time everyone was so focused

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on avoiding a shutdown before Christmas?

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You know, they had that saving Christmas pressure.

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This time that's gone.

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So certain groups might feel more bolden to dig in

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and really fight for what they want.

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And then there's always Trump and Musk, those wild cards.

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They always seem to like shaking things up.

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Oh yeah, they definitely keep things interesting.

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You know, former President Trump might not be in office

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anymore, but he's still a major force

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in the Republican Party.

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For sure.

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And Elon Musk is getting more and more involved

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in politics these days,

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especially with the Republicans.

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Yeah, his endorsement of Speaker Johnson

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was a pretty clear sign of that,

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but it's still hard to figure out what his real goals are.

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Yeah, his actions tend to make a lot of noise.

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And sometimes, you know, those headlines

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make you wonder about his judgment.

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Like when he endorsed that German political party

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with connections to neo-Nazis,

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that was definitely an eyebrow razor.

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Yeah, that was a bit unsettling, to be honest.

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I have this feeling that all this political drama

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has got to be affecting how consumers are feeling.

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It makes sense.

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I mean, if people aren't sure about the future,

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they're probably less likely to spend money.

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And that could have a domino effect on the entire economy.

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That's a valid point.

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And the Schwab Report actually mentions those concerns too.

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They're warning about the possibility of the markets

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becoming more volatile because of all this political

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and economic uncertainty.

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And, you know, the Schwab Report also highlights

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the potential impact of interest rates going up.

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Right, they specifically mentioned that as a concern,

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especially for businesses and industries

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that are really sensitive to interest rate changes.

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it kind of creates this chain reaction.

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It gets more expensive for companies to borrow money,

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which can slow down growth and investment.

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And then at the same time, rising interest rates

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make bonds more appealing to investors.

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So money might start flowing out of the stock market.

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So it sounds like the next few months

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could be a bit of a bumpy ride.

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Inflation is starting to cool down, which is good.

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But there's still so much uncertainty

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about everything politically, economically,

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and how consumers will react to it all.

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What are your thoughts on where things might be headed?

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You know, it's really amazing how much influence

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people like Trump and Musk have,

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even when they're not officially in politics.

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Their actions and what they say

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can really move markets and change public opinion.

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It's like something we wouldn't have even imagined

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a few years ago.

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It's a real change in how power works in our society, right?

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I mean, we're used to thinking of politicians

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as the ones who make change happen.

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But now you have these tech billionaires

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with their huge platforms and millions of followers

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who can have a huge influence.

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Yeah, it's a whole new world.

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And it's hard to say what's gonna happen next.

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But one thing's for sure, we can't ignore it.

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We need to understand how these new power players work

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and how what they do can affect us.

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So let's bring this back to you, the listener.

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Why should you care about all this stuff

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about politics and the economy and the markets?

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How does it relate to your everyday life?

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Well, for one thing, it can help you understand

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the news better.

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You know, figure out what's really going on in the world.

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But it goes even deeper than that.

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These things directly affect your money,

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your job, even your retirement.

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Yeah, like if you're invested in the stock market,

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understanding these political and economic trends

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can help you make smarter decisions about your investments.

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If you know that rising interest rates

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might hurt certain industries

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or that political uncertainty

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could make the market more volatile,

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you can adjust your portfolio to match.

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It's about being proactive and informed

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instead of just reacting to things

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after they've already happened.

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That's right.

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Knowledge is power.

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And that's especially true today

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when things are so complicated and changing so fast.

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Well said.

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So as we wrap up this deep dive,

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I want to leave you with something to think about.

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How do you think people like Trump and Musk,

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especially with Musk getting more involved

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with the Republicans,

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how do you think they're going to shape politics

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and the economy going forward?

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And how might that affect your own financial decisions?

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It's definitely something to consider

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as we head into the new year.

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Absolutely.

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Thanks for listening everybody.

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And until next time, stay curious,

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stay informed and stay engaged.

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See ya.

