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Welcome back to the deep dive.

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Oh yeah.

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Yadda, we're diving head first

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into ElectoralVote.com's analysis from December 17th.

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Okay.

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We're gonna untangle RFK Junior's

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wild confirmation hearings,

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unpack some surprising pardons,

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and even take a look at the political earthquake

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over in Germany.

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Sounds good.

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So it's pretty incredible how the recent election

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is still sending those shock waves through everything.

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Look at that.

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And seeing the fallout,

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not just with the new administration,

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but with all the reactions and political maneuvering,

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it's fascinating.

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It is.

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Like RFK Junior's confirmation for HHS.

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Democrats are a hard no,

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but Republicans are playing it so cautiously.

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It just seems like a really odd strategy.

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Well, it's all about political strategy really.

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Openly opposing RFK Junior right now

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could backfire lifetime,

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especially with what happened with Senator Ernst

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and Hexa.

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Everyone remembers that.

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They're in a tight spot.

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I see.

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So they're kind of damned if they do.

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Damned if they don't.

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But even with that,

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there are some little hints.

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That things might not be so smooth.

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Interesting.

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You know, Trump's out there putting on the pressure,

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even talking about primary challenges,

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and then you have these senators asking RFK Junior

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to clarify his stance on vaccines.

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I mean, come on.

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Everyone knows where he stands on that.

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Well, it's a classic tactic.

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Right, you know these senators,

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they wanna be able to say,

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hey, look, I gave him a chance.

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I listened to his side.

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But ultimately, I just couldn't support him.

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But as for Trump,

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I mean, the fact that he's getting involved like this,

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that's a big sign.

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Yeah, what do you think that means?

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Well, he wouldn't be doing this

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unless he sensed some real trouble.

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And you have to think about those senators,

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the ones who are up for reelection soon.

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I mean, they're walking a tightrope.

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So is there an actual chance

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that this nomination could actually fail?

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It's definitely a possibility.

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It would be a big blow to Trump's agenda, if it did.

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I think the bigger issue is that it might show

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that some Republicans are willing to break ranks.

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Interesting.

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We might see more pushback against Trump's nominees

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if that happens.

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So speaking of breaking ranks,

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we have to talk about Manchin and Cinema,

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blocking McFerrin's nomination for the NLRB chair.

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I mean, everyone thought that was a done deal.

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It was a sure thing.

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And their votes against her just solidified

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that they're done with the Democrats.

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It was parting shot, really.

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Manchin, you know, he gave his whole rationale

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about business and all that.

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Cinema, classic cinema, said nothing.

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It's fascinating how they can take

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such different approaches.

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But they end up in the same place.

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I mean, Manchin's focused on business and cinema,

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well, who knows.

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to analyze what they'll do next.

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I mean, this whole thing throws a wrench

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into labor relations, especially with Trump coming in.

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And speaking of uncertainty,

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can we talk about what's happening in the house?

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It's a wild ride.

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Yeah, AOC, Moskovitz and Sparts are all making moves.

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It's hard to keep up.

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Well, let's start with AOC, right?

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She's going for a powerful committee position,

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but she's facing pushback.

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Okay, why is that?

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For one, she's still relatively young.

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Her influence is still there.

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She's not afraid to challenge the establishment.

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That's for sure.

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So it's a power struggle, playing out for everyone to see.

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Then we have the whole Moskovitz thing.

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Right, the rumors about FEMA.

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Yeah, everyone's talking about him

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heading up FEMA under Trump.

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It's interesting, isn't it?

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It is.

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Because you have to think about his background,

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his connections to DeSantis,

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and now Trump's new chief of staff.

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It makes you wonder, is this a political play by Trump?

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Or does he genuinely want someone competent in that role?

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Or maybe a little of both?

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It could be.

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You know, maybe it's Trump's way of reaching out

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to more moderate Democrats.

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It's possible.

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It'll be interesting to see how that plays out.

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And then there's Sparts.

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Right, she just withdrew from all her committee assignments.

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Just like that.

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Just like that.

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I mean, she says it's because of dysfunction and the GOP,

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but she's a bit of a wild card, you know?

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Yeah, she is.

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Remember back during the Speaker elections?

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I actually kept changing her vote.

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Who knows what she'll do next?

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It's impossible to say.

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She definitely adds to the chaos.

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But what it all means.

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Who can say?

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It's hard to know.

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OK, so let's switch gears a little bit.

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Let's talk about presidential pardons.

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Biden just issued a bunch of them.

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And some of the people he pardoned

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are raising some eyebrows.

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Well, of the pardon power is always controversial.

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Especially at the end of a presidency.

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It's understandable that people are looking closely

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at Biden's choices.

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Especially since some of these folks don't

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have the cleanest records.

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People are wondering if there are any backroom deals

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or favors being traded.

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But this time, it might be something else.

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Really?

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What do you think?

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Well, remember the COVID prison releases?

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From a few years back?

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They might be a factor here.

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You mean because they let people out to reduce overcrowding?

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To stop the virus from spreading?

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And so now they have all these people

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who were granted clemency.

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They're on house arrest.

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Imagine sending them all back to prison now.

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After they've been rebuilding their lives for years.

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That would be a mess.

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It wouldn't be fair either.

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It wouldn't.

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So maybe the White House was trying to be practical?

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But it definitely doesn't look good.

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Yeah, it looks pretty bad.

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So maybe not some kind of quid pro quo.

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Mm-hmm.

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But it's still a tough one for people to accept.

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I can see that.

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And now it's sparked a whole debate among Democrats.

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About whether Biden should just go ahead and pardon anyone.

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Who might be targeted.

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Under a Trump administration.

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So pre-emptive pardons.

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That's a tough one.

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Yeah, you've got people like Bernie Sanders saying

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Biden should seriously consider it.

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his power.

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You know, it's like.

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It's a tough balance.

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Yeah, you have to weigh protecting people

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against potentially protecting someone like Trump.

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It all comes back to the pardon power itself, right?

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Is it just broken?

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Is there any way to fix it?

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The pardon power is right there in the Constitution.

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So to change it, you'd need an amendment.

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And in this political climate, forget it.

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Right, that's not happening.

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And even if you could do it, how do you fix it

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without creating a whole new set of problems?

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That's the tough part.

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It's a mess.

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So we're stuck with this system that's

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both necessary and totally flawed.

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might not be the pardon power.

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But the fact that the Justice Department can be used as.

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Right, like a weapon.

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A political weapon.

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A political game.

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And the things that used to stop that from happening,

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like norms and presidential restraint, they're gone.

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Yeah, they're gone.

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So maybe we need to do something drastic.

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like the Federal Reserve?

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You know, a quasi-public agency.

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So it wouldn't be subject to all the political whims.

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That's a really interesting idea.

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It's something to think about.

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It is.

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OK, but let's switch gears again.

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And talk about Kamala Harris.

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What's next for her?

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Well, I don't think she's done with politics.

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I don't either.

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She's still relatively young.

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And she's won a lot of elections.

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And all those connections she made during the campaign,

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those are still there.

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She's not going anywhere.

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So what are her options?

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I mean, a 2028 run for president is definitely a possibility.

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Yeah, it's on the table.

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But it won't be easy.

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The competition will be tough.

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And people still have doubts about her from last time.

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Right.

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With Nysa Mout, that seat is wide open.

285
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Yeah.

286
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And she'd be a strong candidate.

287
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No, yeah.

288
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She'd probably win.

289
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But she can't do both, right?

290
00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:00,640
No, not really.

291
00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:03,200
If she runs for governor, it'll look like she's just

292
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using it to get to the White House.

293
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Exactly.

294
00:09:05,680 --> 00:09:06,840
Voters won't like that.

295
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And if she serves a full term as governor,

296
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she'll be too old to run for president again.

297
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That's the trade-off.

298
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It's a tough choice.

299
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Yeah.

300
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She has some time to decide.

301
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She does.

302
00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:20,000
OK, let's move on to something a little more straightforward.

303
00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:20,720
OK.

304
00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:22,640
Trump's hush money case.

305
00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:23,320
Right.

306
00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:24,920
There is a big development there.

307
00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:28,520
Yeah, Judge Merchant rejected Trump's whole argument.

308
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About presidential immunity.

309
00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,240
And it wasn't just a simple rejection either.

310
00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:32,720
No.

311
00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:33,920
He really shut it down.

312
00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,600
Yeah, he said the case would have moved forward,

313
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even if that argument was valid.

314
00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:39,240
Wow.

315
00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:40,640
That's strong.

316
00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:41,000
It is.

317
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So basically, the judge is saying,

318
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this is a weak argument.

319
00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:44,680
Right.

320
00:09:44,680 --> 00:09:46,520
And you should have brought it up during the trial.

321
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So what now?

322
00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:49,640
What's left for Trump's lawyers to argue?

323
00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:52,160
Well, they're hoping the case gets dismissed

324
00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,400
because Trump's the president-elect now.

325
00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:54,920
Oh, OK.

326
00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,680
But honestly, that's a long shot.

327
00:09:57,680 --> 00:09:58,160
Right.

328
00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:02,760
I doubt being president erases everything you did before.

329
00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:04,400
Yeah, the courts don't really see it that way.

330
00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:05,320
Nope.

331
00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:10,840
OK, so we've talked about pardons, political maneuvering,

332
00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:12,640
legal battles.

333
00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:14,880
I think it's time for a trip across the Atlantic.

334
00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:15,400
Sounds good.

335
00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:16,480
Where are we going?

336
00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:17,360
Germany.

337
00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:18,560
Oh, wow.

338
00:10:18,560 --> 00:10:20,560
There's been a major political shakeup there.

339
00:10:20,560 --> 00:10:21,960
Yeah, I saw the headlines.

340
00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:23,120
The government collapsed.

341
00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:23,360
Right.

342
00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:25,720
And Schultz lost a vote of no confidence.

343
00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:26,160
Yeah.

344
00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,960
But it's not quite as dramatic as it seems.

345
00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:29,360
Really?

346
00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:31,640
It seems like Schultz might have actually planned this.

347
00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:32,400
You're kidding.

348
00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:34,320
He might have engineered this whole thing.

349
00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:35,320
Wow.

350
00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:36,880
To force an early election.

351
00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:38,360
That's a bold move.

352
00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:41,760
It is, especially with all the global uncertainty

353
00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:43,040
and Trump coming back.

354
00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,280
Yeah, what do you think it means?

355
00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:47,720
Well, you have to remember, Germany

356
00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:50,760
is really sensitive to political instability.

357
00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:51,280
Yeah.

358
00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:53,800
So this move just adds another layer of complexity.

359
00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:54,240
Right.

360
00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,160
Schultz is facing an uphill battle.

361
00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:57,160
Yeah.

362
00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:00,160
And the outcome could have big implications for Ukraine.

363
00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:03,360
It's a reminder that what happens in one country

364
00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:04,640
affects everyone.

365
00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:05,000
Right.

366
00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:06,480
Politics are never just local.

367
00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:07,520
Never.

368
00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,760
Well, before we wrap up this part of our deep dive,

369
00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:16,480
let's turn our attention to a case of international intrigue

370
00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:18,600
and a missing agent.

371
00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:19,240
Interesting.

372
00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:21,200
It's like something out of a spy novel, really.

373
00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:22,040
It does.

374
00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:22,520
Yeah.

375
00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:24,200
So who are we looking at here?

376
00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:25,600
Who are the?

377
00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:27,440
Well, there are a few possibilities.

378
00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:32,000
Some intelligence officials think he might have been abducted.

379
00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:32,360
OK.

380
00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:36,000
You know, by another country, maybe Russia or China,

381
00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,960
he had access to some pretty sensitive information

382
00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:40,920
that would be valuable to them.

383
00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:42,840
Yeah, that's scary.

384
00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:43,360
Yeah.

385
00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:44,360
It's like a movie plot.

386
00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:45,280
It is.

387
00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:47,200
But what about defection?

388
00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:48,400
Is that a possibility?

389
00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:50,000
It's definitely on the table.

390
00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:51,560
I mean, some people are saying he

391
00:11:51,560 --> 00:11:53,960
might have been unhappy with his work

392
00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,800
or maybe someone promised him a better life.

393
00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:57,160
Right.

394
00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:00,320
I mean, it's worth noting that he had expressed concerns

395
00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:02,520
about British intelligence.

396
00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:06,040
So we're looking at two pretty strong possibilities.

397
00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:07,320
Yeah.

398
00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:09,400
Abduction or defection.

399
00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:10,760
And we don't know which one it is.

400
00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:12,960
Right, it's a mystery.

401
00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:14,320
What are the authorities doing?

402
00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:17,560
Well, there's a huge international investigation going on.

403
00:12:17,560 --> 00:12:17,840
OK.

404
00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:20,560
You know, agencies from all over are working together.

405
00:12:20,560 --> 00:12:21,720
They're looking at everything.

406
00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:22,240
Yeah.

407
00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:25,880
Communications, movements, contacts, anything that could help.

408
00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:27,600
It sounds like they're doing everything they can.

409
00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:28,360
They are.

410
00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:31,440
But with so little to go on, is there

411
00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:33,360
any real chance of finding him?

412
00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:34,760
It's a tough case.

413
00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:35,720
That's for sure.

414
00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:37,280
But they're not giving up.

415
00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:37,780
OK.

416
00:12:37,780 --> 00:12:40,400
They're hoping for a break, maybe a witness

417
00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:43,560
or some new evidence, something to point them

418
00:12:43,560 --> 00:12:44,400
in the right direction.

419
00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:45,440
That makes sense.

420
00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:46,880
But the clock is ticking.

421
00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:49,920
The longer this goes on, the harder it'll be to find them.

422
00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:51,560
Well, let's hope they find him soon.

423
00:12:51,560 --> 00:12:52,240
Me too.

424
00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,400
This whole story really highlights

425
00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:56,360
the dangers of that world.

426
00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:57,880
The world of espionage.

427
00:12:57,880 --> 00:12:58,240
Yeah.

428
00:12:58,240 --> 00:12:59,480
All the risks involved.

429
00:12:59,480 --> 00:12:59,680
Yeah.

430
00:12:59,680 --> 00:13:01,360
It's a world built on trust.

431
00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:01,720
Right.

432
00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:05,680
And when that trust is broken, the consequences can be huge.

433
00:13:05,680 --> 00:13:07,120
Yeah.

434
00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:09,160
One wrong move.

435
00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,960
And things could go global.

436
00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:14,680
It's true.

437
00:13:14,680 --> 00:13:15,240
OK.

438
00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:16,720
Let's shift gears a little.

439
00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:17,200
OK.

440
00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,240
And talk about a different kind of power struggle.

441
00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:19,640
All right.

442
00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:20,440
What are we thinking?

443
00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:22,640
Meta versus the EU.

444
00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:23,320
Ah.

445
00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:26,200
OK, the tech giant versus the regulators.

446
00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:28,080
Right, a real David and Goliath situation.

447
00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:29,120
Yeah, it is.

448
00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:32,640
So what's at the heart of this fight, it seems like?

449
00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:34,760
Well, it all comes down to data privacy.

450
00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:35,080
OK.

451
00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:35,640
Right.

452
00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:37,920
The EU has all these strict rules

453
00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:40,560
about how companies can use people's data.

454
00:13:40,560 --> 00:13:41,000
Right.

455
00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,760
And they're saying, meta broke those rules.

456
00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:44,440
Repeatedly.

457
00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:45,480
Over and over again.

458
00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:48,640
So basically, the EU is saying, we have these rules.

459
00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:49,480
Right.

460
00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:50,960
And you have to follow them.

461
00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:51,640
Right.

462
00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:52,520
Even if you're meta.

463
00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:53,600
Exactly.

464
00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:55,240
But meta's not just going to roll over, right?

465
00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:56,240
Oh, no.

466
00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:57,640
They're used to doing things their way.

467
00:13:57,640 --> 00:13:58,480
Exactly.

468
00:13:58,480 --> 00:13:59,760
They're pushing back.

469
00:13:59,760 --> 00:13:59,960
Right.

470
00:13:59,960 --> 00:14:01,120
So what's their argument?

471
00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:04,080
Well, they're saying that these rules are stifling

472
00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:04,880
innovation.

473
00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:05,320
OK.

474
00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,120
And that they're hurting their business.

475
00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:09,200
OK, so it's a classic battle, then.

476
00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:09,760
It is.

477
00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,120
Innovation versus regulation.

478
00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:12,400
Yeah.

479
00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:14,440
What are the stakes for meta?

480
00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:14,680
Right.

481
00:14:14,680 --> 00:14:15,600
What could happen to them?

482
00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:19,560
Well, the EU can impose some pretty hefty fines.

483
00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:23,080
And this lawsuit could mean even bigger ones.

484
00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:26,080
They could even restrict meta's operations in Europe.

485
00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:28,960
Wow, that would be a huge blow.

486
00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:29,920
It would.

487
00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,160
So how's meta fighting back?

488
00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:33,400
Well, they're doing a lot.

489
00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:33,840
OK.

490
00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:34,960
They're going to court.

491
00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:35,320
OK.

492
00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:36,960
They're lobbying to change the rules.

493
00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:37,360
Right.

494
00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:39,720
And they're trying to win over public opinion.

495
00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:41,760
OK, so they're fighting on all fronts.

496
00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:42,400
They are.

497
00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:43,720
And this isn't just about meta.

498
00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:45,760
No, it's much bigger than that.

499
00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:46,240
What do you mean?

500
00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:48,520
This is about the future of data privacy.

501
00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:49,000
OK.

502
00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:50,480
And who has the power?

503
00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:50,920
Right.

504
00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:52,960
Tech companies or governments?

505
00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:54,360
This is going to be interesting to watch.

506
00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:55,200
It is.

507
00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:58,720
OK, for something a little lighter, let's talk about video games.

508
00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:00,400
Video games, OK.

509
00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:03,960
Specifically, grand strategy games.

510
00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:05,360
Grand strategy, OK.

511
00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:08,800
So for people who aren't gamers, what are these games?

512
00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:12,160
OK, so imagine you're in charge of a whole nation.

513
00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:16,240
You make all the decisions, the economy, diplomacy, wars,

514
00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:17,760
technology, everything.

515
00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:18,320
Wow.

516
00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:20,360
You have to think long term.

517
00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:21,080
OK.

518
00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:24,960
Manage your resources and outsmart your opponents.

519
00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,560
So it's like a giant history simulation.

520
00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:28,600
Kind of, yeah.

521
00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:31,360
But there's some controversy around these games, right?

522
00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,640
Yeah, the main concern is that they

523
00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,640
might trivialize history.

524
00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:37,280
OK.

525
00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:40,440
Or reinforce harmful stereotypes.

526
00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:42,520
Right, because they have to simplify things.

527
00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:44,080
Exactly.

528
00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:46,920
So are those concerns valid?

529
00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:50,480
I think there's definitely room for improvement

530
00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:52,640
in how some games handle those things.

531
00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:53,040
OK.

532
00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,320
But these games can also be a really good way

533
00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:56,520
to learn about history.

534
00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,440
They can get people interested and make them want to learn more.

535
00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:00,960
So it's like a double-edged sword.

536
00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:01,760
Exactly.

537
00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:06,560
On one hand, they can oversimplify and misrepresent things.

538
00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:09,160
But on the other, they could be a great way.

539
00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:10,880
Right, to engage with history.

540
00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:12,360
Yeah, it makes you think.

541
00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:12,760
Right.

542
00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:15,800
So even games that are meant to be fun

543
00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,080
can touch on some pretty complex issues.

544
00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:18,720
For sure.

545
00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:22,720
History, representation, cultural sensitivity.

546
00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:24,120
Yep, it's all there.

547
00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:28,680
It shows that the world of gaming is evolving

548
00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:30,320
and reflecting the real world.

549
00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:31,640
Absolutely.

550
00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:36,240
OK, before we wrap things up, I want to go back to those pardons

551
00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:37,200
Biden issued.

552
00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:37,720
Right.

553
00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:40,520
It seems like there's always another layer with these pardons.

554
00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:43,440
When you look closer at who Biden pardoned,

555
00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:45,480
some of the names are pretty surprising.

556
00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:47,040
Yeah, I was looking at the list.

557
00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:49,120
It makes you wonder what was going through his head.

558
00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:50,720
It really does.

559
00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:52,960
I mean, we're talking about a judge who

560
00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:56,720
is taking bribes, sending kids to juvenile detention.

561
00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:57,280
Or money.

562
00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:57,920
For money.

563
00:16:57,920 --> 00:16:59,080
It's unbelievable.

564
00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:02,920
And then a city controller who stole millions.

565
00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:04,040
Of millions.

566
00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:06,120
Of public funds.

567
00:17:06,120 --> 00:17:08,160
It's hard to understand.

568
00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:10,320
I mean, these aren't small-time offenses.

569
00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:11,400
No, not at all.

570
00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:12,680
These are serious crimes.

571
00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:15,440
It makes you wonder what Biden was thinking.

572
00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:16,480
Right.

573
00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:19,080
Was it just compassion?

574
00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:20,000
It's hard to say.

575
00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,240
Or was there something else going on?

576
00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,640
I mean, some people are saying there were backroom deals.

577
00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:25,120
Right.

578
00:17:25,120 --> 00:17:26,320
Or political favors.

579
00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:27,880
That's always a possibility.

580
00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:28,960
It is.

581
00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:30,400
But we have to remember.

582
00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:31,040
Yeah.

583
00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:33,160
The COVID prison releases.

584
00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:34,040
Yeah.

585
00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:35,280
Those could be a factor here.

586
00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:35,640
Right.

587
00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:36,800
They let all those people out.

588
00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:37,920
To slow down the virus.

589
00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:38,760
I exactly.

590
00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,680
So now imagine you have these people.

591
00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:42,640
Who were pardoned.

592
00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:43,040
Right.

593
00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:44,120
They'd been on house arrest.

594
00:17:44,120 --> 00:17:45,240
Rebuilding their lives.

595
00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:46,680
And now you're going to send them back.

596
00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:47,720
After all this time.

597
00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:49,200
It would be chaos.

598
00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:50,400
And it wouldn't be right.

599
00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:50,800
No.

600
00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:51,320
You wouldn't.

601
00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:53,360
So maybe the White House was trying to.

602
00:17:53,360 --> 00:17:54,280
Find a solution.

603
00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:54,520
Yeah.

604
00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:55,720
Balance things out.

605
00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:57,560
But it's still a tough one.

606
00:17:57,560 --> 00:17:57,880
It is.

607
00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:00,000
Especially for the people who think.

608
00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:00,440
Yeah.

609
00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:02,480
These criminals should serve their time.

610
00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:03,560
No matter what.

611
00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:06,520
It shows how complicated the justice system is.

612
00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:07,280
It really is.

613
00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:08,480
And how hard it is.

614
00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:09,000
Yeah.

615
00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:10,840
To balance all the different factors.

616
00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:12,360
It's not always black and white.

617
00:18:12,360 --> 00:18:14,600
And these pardons really highlight that.

618
00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:15,280
They do.

619
00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:18,640
And this whole debate has spilled over into another issue.

620
00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:19,560
What's that?

621
00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:20,960
Preemptive pardons.

622
00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:21,840
Oh wow.

623
00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:23,880
People are talking about whether Biden should

624
00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:24,840
pardon people.

625
00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:25,360
OK.

626
00:18:25,360 --> 00:18:27,160
Before Trump can even target them.

627
00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:28,640
The whole other set of problems.

628
00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:29,320
It is.

629
00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:31,040
You have people like Bernie Sanders.

630
00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:31,440
Yeah.

631
00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:32,520
Who think it's a good idea.

632
00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:33,960
To protect people from Trump.

633
00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:34,600
Exactly.

634
00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:35,840
But then you have Adam Schiff.

635
00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:36,280
Right.

636
00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:38,400
Who's worried about the precedent it would set.

637
00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:40,080
You can't just pardon everyone.

638
00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:40,320
Yeah.

639
00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:41,600
It undermines the whole system.

640
00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:42,520
Exactly.

641
00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:43,760
It's a tough call.

642
00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:44,120
It is.

643
00:18:44,120 --> 00:18:45,800
You have to weigh protecting people.

644
00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:46,280
Yeah.

645
00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:48,240
Against protecting the system itself.

646
00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:49,760
It's a tough balance.

647
00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:51,280
And it all comes back to.

648
00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:52,520
A party power.

649
00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:54,360
Is it broken?

650
00:18:54,360 --> 00:18:55,800
Can we fix it?

651
00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:57,360
These are big questions.

652
00:18:57,360 --> 00:18:58,040
They are.

653
00:18:58,040 --> 00:18:59,520
And they've been around for a long time.

654
00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:01,240
Centuries, really?

655
00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:03,560
The pardon power is in the Constitution.

656
00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:05,000
So to change it.

657
00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:06,800
You need an amendment.

658
00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:07,880
Good luck with that.

659
00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:08,360
Yeah.

660
00:19:08,360 --> 00:19:08,960
Not going to happen.

661
00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:10,400
And even if you could.

662
00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:10,800
Yeah.

663
00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:11,880
How do you fix it?

664
00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:13,920
Without creating new problems.

665
00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:14,400
Right.

666
00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:15,320
That's the challenge.

667
00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:16,240
It's a tough one.

668
00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:16,720
It is.

669
00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:18,200
So we're left with this system.

670
00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:19,760
That's both essential.

671
00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:20,800
And flawed.

672
00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:21,680
It's a dilemma.

673
00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:23,080
It really is.

674
00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:24,680
It reminds us that power.

675
00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:26,160
Even with good intentions.

676
00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:27,160
Can be misused.

677
00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:27,840
Absolutely.

678
00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:28,680
We have to be careful.

679
00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:29,600
And stay informed.

680
00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:30,760
Exactly.

681
00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:31,200
OK.

682
00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:32,240
Let's head back to Germany.

683
00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:33,120
Back to Germany.

684
00:19:33,120 --> 00:19:33,280
Yeah.

685
00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:34,640
Remember that political shakeup?

686
00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:35,120
Oh yeah.

687
00:19:35,120 --> 00:19:36,440
The no confidence vote.

688
00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:37,920
It seemed so sudden.

689
00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:38,360
It did.

690
00:19:38,360 --> 00:19:39,280
But it turns out.

691
00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:39,880
Yeah.

692
00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:42,520
Schultz might have planned the whole thing.

693
00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:43,320
What?

694
00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:44,960
He might have orchestrated that vote.

695
00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:46,600
To get an early election.

696
00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:47,520
That's right.

697
00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:48,680
It's incredible.

698
00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:49,600
It's a risky move.

699
00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:50,360
It is.

700
00:19:50,360 --> 00:19:51,240
But it could pay off.

701
00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:52,520
If he wins.

702
00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:53,800
Exactly.

703
00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:55,040
But why did he do it?

704
00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:56,000
That's the question.

705
00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:57,800
Well, his government was falling apart.

706
00:19:57,800 --> 00:19:58,200
Right.

707
00:19:58,200 --> 00:19:59,320
And Germany's facing.

708
00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:00,480
A lot of challenges.

709
00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:00,720
Right.

710
00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:02,080
Both at home and abroad.

711
00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:03,560
And with Trump coming back.

712
00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:04,080
Yeah.

713
00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:04,880
It's a whole new world.

714
00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:06,680
It's like he's trying to get ahead of the curve.

715
00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:07,880
It's a smart strategy.

716
00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:08,600
If it works.

717
00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:10,640
It shows you how quickly things can change.

718
00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:11,680
In politics.

719
00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:13,080
You have to be adaptable.

720
00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:13,840
And strategic.

721
00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:15,480
And in the results of this election.

722
00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:16,400
They're going to be important.

723
00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:17,360
Not just for Germany.

724
00:20:17,360 --> 00:20:18,400
But for everyone.

725
00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:20,280
It reminds us that we're all connected.

726
00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:21,520
What happens in one place.

727
00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:22,600
Affects us all.

728
00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:23,440
Exactly.

729
00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,440
That's why it's so important to stay informed.

730
00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:26,200
And engage.

731
00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:27,680
And to keep digging deeper.

732
00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:29,720
To understand what's really going on.

733
00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,360
Well, this deep dive has taken us all over the place.

734
00:20:32,360 --> 00:20:33,280
We've covered a lot.

735
00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,360
From pardons to espionage.

736
00:20:35,360 --> 00:20:38,160
To tech giants and video games.

737
00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:39,320
We've talked about power.

738
00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,360
And how it can be used and abused.

739
00:20:41,360 --> 00:20:43,480
And the importance of critical thinking.

740
00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:46,040
In a world full of information.

741
00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:47,360
So what are your takeaways?

742
00:20:47,360 --> 00:20:49,360
They'll stuck with you.

743
00:20:49,360 --> 00:20:51,080
I think for me.

744
00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:51,760
Yeah.

745
00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:55,200
It's the reminder that even with all the challenges.

746
00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:55,720
Yeah.

747
00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,720
There's still so much ingenuity.

748
00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:00,040
Resilience.

749
00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:01,880
People are still striving for knowledge.

750
00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:03,720
And that's what matters.

751
00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:05,240
That's what keeps us moving forward.

752
00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:06,600
Absolutely.

753
00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:08,160
So as we face the future.

754
00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:09,920
Let's keep talking to each other.

755
00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:11,440
Keep thinking critically.

756
00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:13,560
And keep searching for the truth.

757
00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:14,720
Well said.

758
00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:16,480
Thanks for joining us on this deep dive.

759
00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:18,040
It's been a pleasure.

760
00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:19,400
Until next time.

761
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:20,520
Keep questioning.

762
00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:21,520
Keep learning.

763
00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:38,760
And keep engaging with the world.

