All right, so let's dive right into the world after the 24 election.
Specifically, a world where Donald Trump is back in the White House.
You guys sent over some really interesting sources.
We've got that electoral vote analysis, some actual legal documents, and even
some, some pretty spicy political commentary to unpack.
So think of this as your like super crash course and everything from how those
electoral votes actually get counted to what Trump's legal battles and these
kind of massive shifts in state legislatures could mean for, well, for all of us really.
Yeah, I mean, there's some pretty big questions here, right?
Like how much power does a president actually have to change things?
You know, like birthright citizenship, what does the average American really
want from their government?
Are state legislature becoming like more important than what happens in
Washington buckle up because this is going to be a wild ride.
So first things first, let's talk about how we actually get from election day to
a new president, you know, being sworn in.
I gotta dig into this, this whole process is way more complex and then honestly
a bit more fragile than I ever realized.
Yeah, it's pretty mind blowing when you actually stop and think about it.
I mean, the rules for how those all important electoral votes are cast and
counted, they're laid out in these old legal documents and get this, there isn't
even like a standardized form for those certificates of ascertainment that each
state sends to Congress, each governor basically does their own thing, which
feels kind of unnerving, you know, when you realize how much actually rides on
these pieces of paper.
Seriously, like imagine a presidential election coming down to like a typo on
one of those certificates.
Yeah.
I mean, Congress did pass that electoral count reform act in 2022, right?
After all that drama of the 2020 election, but is that really enough?
Yeah, that's the million dollar question.
The act was supposed to like prevent these disputes by making it super clear
what the vice president's role is in the process.
So basically they're trying to eliminate any room for like someone to, you
know, interpret things their own way, which as we've seen can lead to chaos.
But whether it's enough to like actually prevent another January 6th situation,
I mean, that's a debate that's, it's still raging on.
Okay.
So this system is, shall we say, a work in progress.
But speaking of legal battles, let's jump to Trump's big win against ABC News.
$15 million payout for one statement made during an interview.
I mean, that's got to send shock waves through newsrooms, right?
Yeah, this case is a total game changer for how the media can or maybe can't report
on Trump.
It highlights this, this super delicate tightrope they have to walk between, you
know, reporting the facts and avoiding any potential legal landmines.
Like in this case, the difference between the terms sexual assault and rape
under New York law, it was crucial, even though the jury basically said what
happened fit the, you know, the common definition of rape.
Wow.
So it's all about these legal nuances, but those nuances can cost millions.
It makes you wonder, is this a strategy by Trump to like basically intimidate media
outlets into self-censoring, even if what they're reporting is, you know, totally
accurate?
It's a, it's a chilling thought, isn't it?
This case definitely throws a wrench into the already like super complicated
relationship between Trump and the media.
And it raises some, some serious questions about the future of, you know, press
freedom here in the U.S.
Okay.
So we've seen how the legal system might be used to silence critics, but
let's shift gears a bit and talk about one of Trump's biggest campaign promises,
ending birthright citizenship.
I mean, this was a cornerstone of his platform, but the legal hurdles he would
have to clear are massive.
You're talking about the 14th amendment here, the one that explicitly says anyone
born on U.S.
soil is a citizen.
It's basically the bedrock of American citizenship.
Trying to change that is like trying to move a mountain.
So is there any way Trump could realistically get around that?
A full repeal, almost impossible.
The process for amending the Constitution is designed to be super, super
difficult.
You need super majorities in both Congress and state legislatures.
But, and this is where it gets tricky, Trump could try to like chip away at it
using executive orders.
Executive orders, like what could those actually do?
Well, he could target things like passports, uh, social security numbers
or even federal benefits for children of undocumented immigrants.
It wouldn't be a clean break from the 14th amendment, but it would definitely
create a whole lot of chaos and legal battles.
So basically a legal battle that would probably end up at the Supreme Court.
Exactly.
And it wouldn't be a quick process either.
It could drag on for years with no guarantee of, uh, of success.
And let's not forget, if a Democrat wins the White House in 28, they could just
reverse everything, making the whole fight kind of pointless.
Except of course for all the, the division and uncertainty it would cause
in the meantime.
Which some might argue is exactly what Trump wants.
Yeah.
But let's step back from the legal maneuvering for a sec and talk about the American people themselves.
Like what's going on with the national mood right now?
What do people actually want from their government?
This analysis from Jonathan Last over at the Bull Work, it really, um, got me thinking.
Lester makes a, a really fascinating argument.
He says that Trump's appeal isn't based on those, uh, those classic Republican promises
of a better economy or whatever.
It's something much deeper, a desire for, uh, retribution basically.
It's about punishing enemies, both, uh, both foreign and domestic.
That becomes the, the main focus.
Not, not necessarily improving the lives of everyday Americans.
Yeah.
You know, reading that really resonated with me.
It seems like people are like tired of the, the same old political games and, uh, Democratic
pollster, Molly Murphy seems to agree.
She's warning that attacking Trump's character or, or saying he's breaking
norms, just it's not going to work anymore.
People are disillusioned with the system and they're less concerned with those things
than they are with seeing like real results.
That's right.
So the question becomes, how do you address those, uh, those desires?
Murphy suggests that Democrats need to focus on.
On Trump's economic policies and how those policies actually affect everyday Americans.
So instead of saying Trump is bad, they need to say these policies are hurting your wallet.
Exactly.
Like highlight how tariffs are, you know, leading to higher prices or how tax cuts
are disproportionately benefiting the, uh, the wealthy, not the average person.
It almost feels like we're talking about two completely different Americas here,
each with their own values and, uh, priorities.
And speaking of different Americas, it seems like what's happening at the state level
is becoming just as important, if not more important than what's going on in Washington.
That's a, uh, that's a really important point.
State legislatures are becoming increasingly powerful, especially given the, the potential
for gridlock in DC, control over crucial issues like, uh, like voting rights, education,
and even healthcare is shifting to the states.
And that has, uh, that has huge implications for all of us.
Right.
Like in Michigan, for example, Republicans flip the state house in 2024 election,
breaking that Democratic trifecta and really throwing a wrench into the state government.
Michigan is a perfect example of how even a small shifted in power can have a massive consequences.
We saw, um, similar dynamics in Minnesota where Democrats lost their super majority in the house,
making it way harder for them to, to get anything done.
So we're seeing this trend towards like divided government at the state level,
which could make the, the partisan battles we're seeing nationally even worse.
Yeah.
And, and it's not just about gridlock, is it?
There's this whole wave of, uh, conservative policies.
Yeah.
And red states often going way beyond anything Trump himself has proposed.
Absolutely.
It's a, uh, a full on policy blitz, especially on issues like, um, voting rights, education,
and, uh, social issues.
Think of it like a, a, a testing ground for policies that could eventually go national.
Okay.
So like, give me some examples.
What are we talking about here?
Well, in Idaho, lawmakers want to allow teachers to carry concealed guns in schools and let
parents sue schools and libraries for, uh, for content they don't like.
Teachers with guns.
That's, uh, that's terrifying.
It's definitely controversial.
And then there's, uh, Oklahoma, which is trying to restrict abortion access even further
and mandate the, uh, the display of the 10 commandments in public schools.
Okay.
So those are like pretty extreme examples.
What about a big state like Texas?
Texas is, well, Texas, they're planning to create their own, uh, border patrol and, and
crack down even harder on, on undocumented immigrants.
And we can't forget about, uh, Florida with, with Governor DeSantis leading the charge there.
Right.
DeSantis is all about, uh, school choice policies, restricting transgender rights and even teaching,
anti-communism in schools.
So it seems like it's not just about what's happening in DC anymore.
It's about what's happening in our own backyards, you know, in, in state capitals across the
country.
That's exactly right.
The balance of power is, is shifting and understanding what's happening at the state level is, uh,
is crucial for understanding the, the future of American politics.
It's a lot to wrap your head around.
And it feels like we're just, uh, we're just scratching the surface.
But speaking of people who are actively trying to, uh, reshape the political landscape, we
have to talk about Cleta Mitchell and her, uh, election integrity network.
Mitchell, who was, uh, deeply involved in Trump's attempts to, to overturn the 2020 election,
is now working with a, uh, a group called ALE to push for even tighter voting restrictions.
Wait, ALEC.
What's that?
You might not have heard of ALE, but they're, uh, they're kind of a big deal.
It's this, uh, powerful group of conservative lawmakers and corporations that actually writes,
uh, model legislation.
Think of it like a blueprint for red states to follow.
And Mitchell is using their platform to push for some pre-radical changes.
Okay.
So what exactly are they, uh, proposing?
Their agenda is, uh, extensive, to say the least.
They want things like, um, requiring documentary proof of citizenship to vote, limiting early
voting periods, and making it much harder to challenge election laws in court.
It seems like these measures would like, make it harder for people to, like, make it harder
for people to vote, especially, uh, certain groups.
That's the, uh, that's the concern.
While they claim it's all about, um, preventing non-citizen voting, critics argue the, the
real impact would be to disenfranchise voters who tend to vote Democratic.
So basically using, uh, election integrity as a cover to, to suppress votes and hold
on to power.
That's, uh, pretty chilling.
It's definitely a, a controversial strategy and it's part of a, a broader trend we're
seeing across the country.
This feels like the tip of the iceberg.
So where do we go from here?
Stay tuned for part two of our deep dives.
Where we'll explore the potential consequences of these trends and what they could mean for
the, uh, the future of American democracy.
You know, it's, it's easy to get caught up in the, the day-to-day headlines and all that,
but when you, when you step back and look at the big picture, it's, it's clear we're at
a crossroads in American history really and the choices we make now as individuals, as
communities, as a nation, they're, they're going to have like ripple effects for, for
generations to come.
Yeah.
It's kind of overwhelming when you put it like that.
I mean, we've just scratched the surface of all the political maneuvering and, and the
policy changes happening and it already feels like a lot to process.
So where do we even begin to unpack the, uh, the potential consequences of all this?
Well, I think it's important to remember that these aren't just like abstract political
battles.
These, these decisions have, uh, they have real world impacts on people's lives.
Take those, uh, state level policies we were just discussing.
Now, imagine you're, you're a parent and I had her now sending your kid to school where,
where teachers might be tearing guns.
Does that make you feel, you know, safer or more anxious?
Honestly, that thought terrifies me.
And what about those, uh, restrictions on abortion access in Oklahoma?
How are those going to affect women's healthcare and their ability to, to make decisions about
their own bodies?
Exactly.
These policies have the potential to, to reshape the, uh, the fabric of our society
really from our schools and healthcare systems to our, uh, you know, fundamental rights and
freedoms.
And the fact that they're often being enacted at the state level where there's less, uh,
national attention and scrutiny makes it, it makes it even more crucial that we, that
we pay attention to what's happening in our, in our own communities.
Right.
It's like a domino effect.
You start chipping away at rights and freedoms in one state and pretty soon it, it spreads
across the country.
So what can we do about it?
How do we push back against these trends?
Well, it starts with awareness.
We can't fight what we don't see.
Right.
So stay informed about what's happening at both of the national and local levels.
Read news from diverse sources, engage with local organizations, attend town hall meetings
and make your, make your voice heard.
So it's not just about following the presidential race or the drama in Congress.
We need to pay attention to our state legislatures, our city councils, our school boards, all the,
all the places where decisions are being made that directly impact our lives.
Exactly.
And don't underestimate the, the power of your own voice.
Contact your, your elected officials, write letters to the editor, organize with your,
your neighbors.
There are, there are so many ways to get involved and make a difference.
I think it's, it's easy to feel powerless in the face of such, you know, big systemic issues,
but you're right.
That, that change starts at the, the grassroots level.
Okay.
So we've talked about the importance of staying informed, you getting involved.
What else should people be thinking about as we, as we navigate this new political landscape?
I think it's, it's crucial to cultivate, uh, critical thinking skills.
We're bombarded with information from all sides, news, social media, political ads.
And it can be really hard to, to separate fact from fiction, especially in, in such a polarized environment.
It's like, it's like we're living in an echo chamber where everyone just, just realize
everyone just, just reinforces their own beliefs.
And anything that, that challenges those beliefs is automatically dismissed as, as fake news or propaganda.
Exactly.
So, so be skeptical of, of everything you read in here, check sources, consider different perspectives,
and be willing to, to change your mind when, when presented with new information.
Also, it's not just about like consuming information.
It's about like actively engaging with it, questioning it and, and forming our own, uh, informed opinions.
Precisely.
And, and don't be afraid to have, you know, difficult conversations, even with, with people who hold different views.
Listen with an open mind.
Try to, to understand where they're coming from and, and look for, for common ground.
Yeah.
That's, that's easier said than done, especially when the, the political climate feels so, so toxic, but you're right.
We, we can't just retreat into our own little bubbles and, and demonize everyone who disagrees with us.
That's not how we, you know, solve problems or build a better future.
Exactly.
And remember, even in the face of all these, these challenges, there are, there are also reasons for, for hope.
We're seeing a, a surge in activism and, and civic engagement, especially among young people.
They're, they're demanding change, holding leaders accountable and pushing for a, a more just and equitable society.
That's, that's definitely encouraging.
But let's, let's not sugarcoat things.
There are some serious threats to, to American democracy right now.
We've talked about the, the erosion of norms, the attacks on the rule of law and the, the efforts to,
to suppress voting rights.
How, how worried should we be?
I think it's, it's important to be, to be realistic about the dangers we face.
These, these trends are, are alarming and they have the potential to, to undermine the foundations of our democracy.
But, but we can't give in to, to despair or apathy.
We have to believe that, that change is possible and that our actions can, can make a difference.
So it's a, it's a balancing act.
We need to be aware of the, the threats without becoming paralyzed by, by fear.
We need to stay engaged without becoming overwhelmed by the, the constant barrage of, of news and information.
Exactly.
It's a, it's a marathon, not a sprint.
And it requires stamina, resilience and a commitment to the, the long game.
But I truly believe that the future of American democracy is, is worth fighting for.
Will said.
And speaking of the future, let's, let's shift our focus to, to some of the specific things that we're going to do.
To some of the specific areas where these battles are playing out.
We've already touched on, on voting rights, but education is another key battleground.
Absolutely.
And it's not just about curriculum choices or textbook controversies.
It's about the, the very nature of, of public education and its role in shaping the, the future of our democracy.
We're, we're seeing this growing push for a school choice, which essentially diverts public funds to, to private schools, often with, with religious affiliations.
And this is being framed as a matter of parental rights and, and freedom of choice.
But the critics argue that it undermines the principle of a common education system.
It further exacerbates inequality and it risks eroding the, the separation of church and state.
It's a, it's a deeply complex issue with strong arguments on, on both sides.
But, but one thing's clear, the stakes are, are incredibly high.
The future of American education and, and by extension, the future of American society hinges on these, on these debates.
And the same can be said about healthcare.
Another area where we're seeing a stark divide between red and blue states.
Right. Republican led states are, are pushing to, to restrict abortion access while some Democratic led states are trying to expand.
It's, it's a fundamental question of bodily autonomy and reproductive rights.
It's a question that the, the Supreme Court has put squarely back into the, the hands of the states where we're now seeing a patchwork of, of laws across the country with some states offering, you know, safe and legal abortion care.
Well, others have effectively banded, banded all together.
It's a, it's a deeply personal and emotional issue.
And, and it's one that's likely to remain highly contentious for the, for the foreseeable future.
And then there are the social issues like LGBTQ plus rights, which have become increasingly politicized.
We're seeing a, a wave of legislation targeting transgender youth, particularly in red states.
From banning gender affirming care to restricting participation in sports and even regulating bathroom access.
These laws are being framed as, as protecting children.
But, but LGBTQ plus advocates are you discriminatory, harmful and, and based on fear and misinformation.
And the impact on these, these young people is, is devastating. They're being denied access to, to healthcare, ostracized from their, their peers and subjected to a level of scrutiny and hostility.
That's, that's simply unconscionable.
It's a, it's a truly heartbreaking situation.
And it's, it's a stark reminder of the, the cruelty that can result when, when political agenda is Trump, basic human decency and compassion.
And the, the saddest part is these are just a few examples of the, the many fronts on which these, these battles are being fought.
It, it can feel overwhelming trying to, to keep up with it all.
Right. It's a, it's a constant barrage of, of news, legislation, court cases, often with, with conflicting information and perspectives.
It's, it's easy to feel lost in the, in the noise.
And that's why it's so important to cultivate reliable sources of information to, to think critically about the, the narratives we're being presented with and to, to engage in, in civil dialogue, even with those who, who hold different views.
It's about staying informed, staying engaged and refusing to give in to, to apathy or despair.
Exactly. Because the, the future of our democracy depends on it.
Well, speaking of, of staying informed, let's, let's turn our attention back to the, the media and its role in, in covering these, these turbulent times.
We've already discussed Trump's lawsuit against ABC News, but there are, there are broader trends at play here.
Yes. The, the media landscape is more fragmented and polarized than, than ever before.
We're seeing a rise in, in partisan outlets, the, the spread of misinformation and a growing distrust of, of traditional news sources.
Yes. It's, it's making it increasingly difficult to, to discern fact from fiction, to navigate the information overload.
Yeah. And to have, you know, constructive conversations about the, the issues that matter most.
And this is further exacerbated by the, the rise of social media, where algorithms often prioritize engagement over, over accuracy, creating these, these echo chambers where people are only,
exposed to information that reinforces their existing beliefs.
It's a, it's a real challenge.
Yeah.
Both for, for journalists trying to, to report the news responsibly and for, for citizens trying to, to stay informed.
And it's a challenge that we, that we need to address head on.
We need to support quality journalism, promote media literacy and hold platforms accountable for the spread of misinformation.
Because a healthy democracy requires a well-informed citizenry.
And that means having access to accurate, unbiased information.
Absolutely. The, the media plays a vital role in, in holding power accountable, informing the public and fostering a shared understanding of the, the challenges we face.
And in these turbulent times, that role is more crucial than ever.
Right. We need a media that is both vigilant and insightful, that can cut through the noise and provide us with the information.
We need to, to make informed decisions about, about our future.
Speaking of the future, let's, let's take a step back and consider the, the broader implications of these, of these trends.
We've talked about, you know, specific policies and political battles.
But what does all of this mean for the, the long-term trajectory of, of American society?
That's a, that's a big question.
And, and one that's difficult to answer with any certainty.
But I think there are a few key themes that emerge from, from our discussion.
Yeah. First, we're seeing a, a deepening of political polarization with the two major parties becoming increasingly, ideologically distinct and antagonistic.
This is making it increasingly difficult to, to find common ground, to, to compromise and to, to govern effectively.
It's, it's leading to gridlock dysfunction and a sense of frustration and disillusionment among the, the electorate.
Second, we're seeing a rise in, in identity politics with people increasingly defining themselves and their, their political allegiances based on their race, religion, gender or, or other group affiliations.
This is creating a more fragmented and divided society where people are more likely to see each other as, as members of opposing tribes rather than as fellow citizens.
It's, it's making it harder to have, you know, civil conversations, to empathize with those who are different from us and to, and to find common ground.
And third, we're seeing a decline in trust and institutions from, from government and the media to corporations and even religious organizations.
This is a dangerous trend because it, it erodes the, the foundations of, of a functioning society when, when people lose faith in the, the institutions that are supposed to, to serve them.
They become more susceptible to conspiracy theories, extremism and political manipulation.
And all of this is taking place against a backdrop of rapid technological change, globalization and, and economic inequality.
It's a, it's a complex and challenging landscape and there aren't, there are no easy answers.
But one thing is clear. The choices we make today will have profound consequences for the future.
We, we need to be mindful of the, the forces at play, the stakes involved and the, the long term implications of our actions.
And we need to remember that the, the future is not predetermined.
It's something we create collectively through our, our choices, our actions and our engagement.
Absolutely. We have the power to, to shape the future we want, but it requires awareness commitment and a willingness to, to work together.
Well, on that note, let's, let's bring our discussion back to the, the present moment we've talked about the, the big picture.
But what are some of the, the specific challenges and opportunities that we're likely to face in the coming months and years?
Well, one key area to watch is the, the Supreme Court, which has become increasingly conservative and activist in, in recent years.
Right. And with a six, three conservative majority, the, the court is poised to, to reshape American law and society on a wide range of, of issues.
From abortion and gun rights to, to voting rights and environmental regulations, the, the court's rulings will have far reaching consequences.
And with a president who's likely to push the, the boundaries of executive power, we could see some, some major legal battles brewing.
Absolutely. The, the separation of powers, the rule of law and the very foundations of our, of our democracy could be put to the, the test.
I would say it's a sobering thought, but on a more positive note, there are also opportunities for progress.
Yes. Despite the, the challenges we face, there are also reasons for hope.
We're seeing a surge in, in activism and, and civic engagement, particularly among like young people.
And there's a, a growing recognition of the, the need to address systemic inequalities from racial injustice to economic disparities.
And technology, while posing certain risks, also offers new tools for organizing, mobilizing and amplifying voices that have traditionally been marginalized.
So it's a, it's a mixed bag to say the least, but, but ultimately the future of our democracy rests on our, our collective will, our, our commitment to its principles.
Yeah. And our willingness to, to engage in the hard work of making it more just and equitable for, for all.
I could have said it better myself. It's a time for both vigilance and, and hope for both realism and idealism.
And it's a time for, for action. We can't afford to sit on the sidelines and watch as, as events unfold.
We need to be active participants in, in shaping the future we want.
Exactly. Because the, the future is not something that happens to us. It's something we, we create together.
Yeah.
Wow. We've really gone down the rabbit hole on this one. It's, it's incredible to think how much has changed in just a few years.
Yeah. And, and how much is still hanging in the balance, you know, when we started this, this deep dive into the, the 2024 election and, and what a Trump victory would actually mean.
I had no idea how much it would connect to, to everything from the courts to, to classrooms to even what's happening in my own state.
It is fascinating, isn't it? How, how seemingly isolated events or policies can like ripple outwards and create these, these chain reactions.
We've talked about everything from, you know, the mechanics of the electoral college to power state legislatures.
And what it all boils down to is this, the future of America is being actively shaped right now.
And we're all a part of that process, whether we, whether we realize it or not.
Right. And I think that's, that's one of the biggest takeaways for me. The, the importance of being an informed and engaged citizen.
It's easy to, to feel like our individual voices don't, don't matter. But when you see how these, these seemingly small decisions at the state level or even, you know, local level can have such massive consequences,
it really, really highlights the, the power we all hold.
It's like that old saying, think globally, act locally. We need to be aware of the big picture of the, the national trends, the, the global forces at play.
But we also need to be actively engaged in our own communities, our own states, holding our, our elected officials accountable and pushing for the changes we, we want to see.
Okay. So we need to be aware. We need to be engaged and we need to be, you know, critical thinkers, but, but where do we even start?
I mean, there's so much information out there, so many different perspectives. It's, it's easy to get lost in the noise.
It can definitely feel overwhelming, but I think the first step is to be, you know, really intentional about the, the information we, we consume.
We need to diversify our, our news sources, seek out different perspectives and be wary of those, those echo chambers you mentioned earlier.
We're only exposed to information that, that reinforces our existing beliefs.
So challenge ourselves to, to read something we disagree with, listen to a podcast that, that makes us uncomfortable.
Talk to someone who, who sees the world differently.
Exactly. It's, it's not about changing our minds necessarily, but it's about expanding our, our understanding, seeing the nuances and realizing that the world is rarely black and white and that kind of critical thinking it's, it's essential for navigating this, this complex and constantly changing political lens.
Okay. So diversify our news sources, engage in critical thinking, be active in our communities.
What, what else can we do to ensure where we're not just passengers on this, on this wild ride, but, but active participants in, in shaping the future?
I think one of the most powerful things we can do is to, to focus on building bridges, not walls.
The level of polarization in our, our society is, is alarming and it's, it's making it incredibly difficult to, to have meaningful conversations, to, to find common ground and to, and to solve problems together.
You know, in preparing for this, for this deep dive, I read so many articles and your opinions that were just dripping with animosity towards the, the other side.
It's, it's easy to get caught up in that us versus them mentality, but it's, it's ultimately so, so destructive.
Absolutely. And I think it's important to remember that most people, regardless of their, their political beliefs, want the same basic things, a good life for themselves and their families, a safe and healthy community, a future filled with opportunity.
We may disagree on the best way to achieve those things, but, but that doesn't mean we can't have, you know, respectful conversations, listen to each other's perspectives and maybe even find some, some common ground.
It's about remembering that we're all human beings, first and foremost, not you know, political labels or, or ideologies.
Right. And that, that human connection, that empathy, it's the, the foundation for building a more just equitable and, and compassionate society.
It's, it's what allows us to, to see beyond our differences and, and work together towards a common goal.
That's, that's powerful. And, and I think it's a, a good reminder as we, as we wrap up this deep dive to approach these, these complex issues with, with both our heads and our, our hearts, we need to be informed, engaged and critical thinkers.
Yes. But we also need to be compassionate and empathetic and open to dialogue.
It's a, a delicate balance, but I think it's the key to, to navigating these, these turbulent times and, and shaping a better future for ourselves and, and generations to come.
I couldn't agree more. Well, on that note, I think we've given you plenty to think about as you continue to, to explore these topics.
The 2024 election, the, the rise of Trump, the, the shifting political landscape. Remember that this is just the beginning of the conversation.
Yeah. Stay curious, stay engaged and never underestimate the power of your own voice.
Thank you for joining us on this deep dive. Until next time, keep learning, keep questioning and keep building those, those bridges.