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Welcome to the deep dive.

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We're gonna be diving into some fascinating news today

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from after the election.

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Oh yeah, this is always really interesting

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to watch what happens right after.

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Yeah, this is all from ElectoralVote.com.

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Oh, cool.

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You sent this in.

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So, big thanks for that.

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And we're gonna be talking about a little bunch of stuff,

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but the one that's on everybody's mind right now

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is Hunter Biden.

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What's going on with these pardon,

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and is this, you know,

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people are saying is it justified or not?

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Right.

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Let's just like remind everybody,

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like what are the offenses that we're talking about here?

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Right.

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Just so we're all on the same page.

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Yeah, we've got the gun purchase form.

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Right.

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Lying on that.

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While he was struggling with addiction.

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And then there's that tax evasion charge,

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which is a lot of money.

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Like 1.4 million.

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Yeah, so it's not nothing.

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No, it's not nothing.

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Yeah, but then it goes deeper into like,

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well, why would Biden do this,

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and are there actually justifications for this?

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Right.

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And like you said at the beginning,

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there's always a lot of talk about this.

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Did he do this? Did he do that?

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But we have to remember that presidents do have

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this broad power to pardon.

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And it's been used for a lot of reasons throughout history.

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It's been used for good, it's been used for bad.

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And it's interesting because in this case,

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the article suggests that maybe Biden was thinking about,

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and well, what's Trump gonna do with this when he gets in?

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Oh.

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Like, is he gonna weaponize this to like?

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Right, so is this like a preemptive?

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Yeah, exactly.

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So is this preemptive?

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Is he trying to like stop Trump

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from being able to use it as a political tool?

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So he's like getting out ahead of it.

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Exactly.

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To try to get out ahead of it.

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Like it went out of the sales.

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Right, and maybe lessen the potential blowback too.

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Right, and there's this whole double standard thing, right?

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Like Woodhunter Jones, some random person

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who's not related to the president.

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Yeah, if this was Joe Schmoe, would this have happened?

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Would he have gotten the same treatment?

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Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

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What do you think about that?

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Yeah, and that's a big point that the article makes.

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And it's a really compelling point.

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Is there a double standard?

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Is there some unequal treatment in the justice system?

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Like it really makes you think about, you know,

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are the scales of justice truly balanced?

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Like is it really fair for everybody?

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Mm-hmm.

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And it's not just, you know, Biden the article

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talks about all these other presidents

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and some pretty questionable pardons

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that have happened throughout history.

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Right, so this is not a partisan issue.

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Exactly, this is not a partisan issue.

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This is something that goes way back.

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It's much bigger than...

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Yeah, way bigger than just Biden.

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Yeah, and so you've got this whole thing with it,

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pardon me, is it justified, is it not?

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But then the article kind of throws in this whole other wrench,

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which is like, well, what if Trump was the one handling it?

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And it paints a pretty, like,

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kind of scary picture of what could have happened.

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Yeah, because if you think about, I mean,

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the article suggests that Trump would use this politically.

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you can see how he would do that.

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He would have used it to attack Biden

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and maybe even push for Hunter to get, like,

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worse punishments.

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Right, so this is this whole, like, abusive power thing.

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Exactly, like, how far can a president go?

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What are the limits?

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And especially with some of the things

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that Trump has done in the past, it's really concerning.

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Yeah, and you know what's interesting?

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Because the article brings up the hypocrisy of it all.

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Like, you have all these Republicans that are saying,

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oh, this pardon's horrible.

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But then you think back to Trump,

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and he pardoned all these people, like, his allies.

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Exactly, and it's like they have amnesia or something.

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It's like they just forgot about all the pardons

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that Trump gave out.

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that there are these double standards,

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like, depending on which party you're in.

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And from the way that the article is written,

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it almost sounds like Biden's playing this, like, chess game.

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Oh, totally. It's like 40 chess.

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He's like, okay, if I don't do it this way,

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then Trump is gonna do this,

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and it's gonna be so much worse,

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so I'm gonna do the lesser two evils.

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He's trying to, like, anticipate what Trump is gonna do.

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And it's like, is that even justified?

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Like, should he be doing that?

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And this leads us perfectly into this next story

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about Trump replacing the FBI director with Cash Patel.

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Ooh, yeah, this was-

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And this is just crazy.

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This is a wild one.

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So you've got Patel, who's been very outspoken about the FBI.

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He's called them compromised.

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He's said that they need to, like, go after people

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who lied about American citizens,

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and he even wrote a whole book.

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Comparing the FBI to the KGB.

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No way.

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is this, like, deep state organization

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that's out to get people.

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And that's his book.

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Yeah, that's his book, and, you know,

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it's pretty extreme stuff.

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and I wonder, like, what's the agenda there?

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are kind of like, oh, hold on a minute,

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this is a little too far.

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are hesitant about this nomination.

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So even within the party, there's some...

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Pushback.

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I mean, the article's bringing up some really big concerns

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about, you know, is the FBI going to be independent, right?

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Can it really, like, do its job?

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without political influence?

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Without someone, like, breathing down their neck.

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Yeah, exactly.

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And think about the freedom of the press, too.

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Like, what happens to that?

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What about people who disagree with the government?

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Like, can they still speak out without being afraid?

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So this is, like, the foundations of democracy

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we're talking about.

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These are like the cornerstones of a democracy.

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And it makes you wonder what would happen

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if those were shaken.

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And speaking of shaking up the system,

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this next thing about Trump and his cabinet,

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second term.

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It's going to be interesting to see how he approaches that.

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Because there's a lot of speculation

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about what he might do.

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So it looks like he might try to get around having

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to have the Senate confirm people.

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Oh, it's like.

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Like appointing people without having them.

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Like a loophole.

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Yeah, a loophole, exactly.

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So using more of these, like, acting secretaries.

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Which are just temporary.

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But they don't need the Senate to say yes.

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So he can just put whoever he wants in.

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And then there's also this idea of the kitchen cabinet.

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Oh, I've heard of that.

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So these are, like, his buddies, you know.

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Unofficial.

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Unofficial advisors, yeah.

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But they don't have, like, official positions.

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So they're just the people that he's, like.

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They're the people he trusts.

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Talking to behind the scenes.

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It's like he's trying to bypass Congress

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and just put his own people in all the important spots.

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And even if they're not qualified.

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Oh, wow.

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It's more about loyalty to him.

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Than it is about, you know, actually being good at the job.

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So it's almost like he's running the country,

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like it's his own business.

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And the article was talking about how this is kind of like what

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Andrew Jackson did way back when.

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Yeah, he had this whole kitchen cabinet thing going on too.

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Interesting.

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So it's not a new tactic.

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Not a new tactic, no.

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But the article says that it could be a lot worse this time

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around.

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Oh, like he's going to take it to a whole new level.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Like on steroids.

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And the fact that he can just skip the whole Senate confirmation

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thing?

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That's what's really worrying because that's

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supposed to be, like, a check on his power.

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You know, the Senate is supposed to make sure

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that he's not just putting crazy people in charge.

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So it's like a safeguard.

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Exactly, a safeguard.

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And if that safeguard's not there, then.

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Then what's to stop him?

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Yeah, that's scary.

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And the article saying that if the Senate doesn't push back

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against this.

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Then that could set a really bad precedent

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for future presidents.

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Oh, so it's not just about Trump.

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It's about.

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It's about the future.

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The whole system.

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Yeah, the whole system is at stake here.

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It's wild how one election can just, like, totally

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change the game.

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Yeah, it's like a domino effect.

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Totally.

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One thing leads to another.

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And speaking of wild, this next story,

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I was not expecting this at all.

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The court ruled that Texas can just keep doing their own

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border control thing.

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Yeah, that was a surprise.

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Like, I thought that was the federal government's job.

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You'd think right.

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Yeah.

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But it seems like Texas is just like, nope,

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we're going to do our own thing.

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And the court's like, OK, go ahead.

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Yeah, and the article is raising some red flags

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about this.

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Like, our state's going too far.

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Right.

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Are they overstepping their boundaries?

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And what about people's rights at the border?

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Yeah, exactly.

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What about human rights?

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And it sounds like Trump is going to be all for this.

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Oh, yeah, he's probably going to love it.

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Like, this just plays right into his whole agenda.

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He's like, Texas, you're doing great.

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Keep it up.

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And then who knows what other states

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are going to start doing their own thing.

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Right, it could be like a free for all.

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Yeah, so this is like a whole other can of worms.

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Gifts only.

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So much for unity, right?

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Yeah, so much for that.

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And it sounds like Trump might even try to like,

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bend the rules to get his way on immigration.

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Yeah, the article was talking about how he might try to find

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loopholes in the law.

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So he can just do whatever he wants, basically.

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Pretty much.

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And it doesn't even matter if it undermines

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the federal government.

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Oh, wow.

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So it's like he's putting his own agenda above everything else.

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Yeah, it's like he's saying, I'm in charge,

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and I'm going to do what I want.

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And speaking of doing what he wants,

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remember all that nepotism from his first term?

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Oh, yeah.

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Like, Tiffany Trump's father-in-law?

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Oh, yeah, Jared Kushner's dad?

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Come on.

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He's like a family reunion in the White House.

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Yeah, and the article is saying that we might see even more

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of that this time around.

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Oh, great.

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Just what we need.

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He just can't help himself.

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Nope, it's all about loyalty, you know?

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Right, but what about like actually having

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qualified people in those positions?

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Yeah, what about experience?

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It's like he doesn't even care.

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Nope, it's all about who you know and who you're loyal to.

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And remember how RFK Jr. endorsed Trump?

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Oh, yeah.

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It looks like that didn't really get him anywhere.

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It seems like Trump ignored all his suggestions

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for cabinet positions.

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Like he wanted to be Secretary of Agriculture.

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Yeah, he thought that endorsement would give him some pull.

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But Trump was like, nope, I'm going to pick my own guy.

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Yeah, it just goes to show you that even an endorsement

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from someone like RFK Jr. doesn't mean much to Trump.

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So it's really all about loyalty.

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Loyalty above all else.

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Wow, so we've covered a lot here.

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Partons, FBI shakeups, border control, nepotism.

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What does this all mean for the average person?

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Well, these articles are anything to go by.

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It seems like things are going to be pretty crazy.

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Buckle up.

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Yeah, buckle up, Buttercup, because it's

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going to be a bumpy ride.

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Like we're talking about the very foundation

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of our democracy here, like the rule of law,

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the independence of our institutions, even just basic

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ethics.

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All of that is under threat.

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It's pretty overwhelming, honestly.

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Yeah, it's a lot to take in.

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Like it feels like Trump is just pushing the limits.

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Yeah, he's testing the boundaries,

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seeing how far he can go.

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And it's like he's daring someone to stop him.

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Yeah, and the question is, will anyone stop him?

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Yeah, that's the big question.

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Like, are the checks and balances going to hold?

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And the article did mention that there is some pushback,

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even from within his own party.

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Oh, yeah, that's right.

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Like some Republicans are like, whoa, hold on a second.

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Yeah, that's actually a good sign.

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Yeah, maybe there's hope there.

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Yeah, maybe they'll be able to hold him accountable.

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We can only hope.

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Fingers crossed.

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Yeah, because this deep dive has definitely

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left me with more questions than answers.

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Oh, yeah, me too.

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But it's good to be asking these questions, right?

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Well, definitely.

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Like we need to be aware of what's going on.

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We can't just bury our heads in this hand.

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Yeah, we have to be informed and engaged.

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Exactly.

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And we can't just rely on this system to fix itself.

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We have to be part of the solution.

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Yeah, it's up to all of us to make sure our democracy stays strong.

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It's our responsibility.

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It's a lot to process, isn't it?

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This whole deep dive has really uncovered some stuff

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that I really wasn't expecting.

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And where do we even go from here?

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Like it makes me wonder, what can we, as citizens, even

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do when it feels like the people in charge are just

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kind of doing whatever they want?

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Yeah, it's like you said earlier.

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It's almost like he's testing the limits.

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Right.

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Like daring someone to stop him.

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Yeah.

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But the article does suggest that maybe there's some hope.

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Oh.

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Yeah.

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Because even within the Republican Party,

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there are people speaking out against some of this stuff.

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Right.

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We talked about with the patella nomination.

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Exactly.

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And that could be a really important sign.

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OK.

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Because if there's enough pushback from his own party,

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then maybe that will keep him in check a little bit.

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OK, so we're not completely powerless?

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No, not at all.

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It's just that so much of this feels

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like it's out of our hands.

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Yeah.

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I mean, a lot of it is we elect these people,

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and then we kind of have to trust

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that they'll do the right thing.

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Right.

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But we can't just sit back and do nothing.

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Right.

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So what can we do?

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Well, for one, we have to stay informed.

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Right.

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Like we're doing now.

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By listening to this show.

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Exactly.

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You got to know what's going on if you

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want to have any chance of influencing it.

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Right.

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Right.

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So we're doing our part.

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Yes.

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And it's not just about national politics either.

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Oh, right.

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It's about local elections too.

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OK.

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School boards, city councils, all of that.

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So like getting involved in our communities.

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Exactly.

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Because that's where a lot of the decisions that

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affect our daily lives are made.

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Right.

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So it's not just about the president.

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No.

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It's about holding all of our elected officials accountable.

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And making sure they know that we're paying attention.

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Exactly.

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OK.

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I like that.

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So it's like, we're all in this together.

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We are.

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And we have to work together to make sure our democracy survives.

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Yeah.

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Because if we don't, who will?

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Wow.

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This deep dive has been a real roller coaster of emotions.

462
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Oh, yeah.

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Like I started out kind of excited,

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you know, new administration, new possibilities.

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Right.

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And then it was like, oh my gosh, what's happening?

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Yeah.

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But I'm ending on a note of hope.

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Good.

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Like we're not powerless.

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We can make a difference.

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We absolutely can.

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So thank you for sharing your insights and expertise with us.

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My pleasure.

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I think we all learned a lot today.

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I hope so.

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And to our listeners out there, thank you for joining us

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on this deep dive.

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Yeah.

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Thanks for listening.

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It's been a wild ride, but we're in this together.

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We are.

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And together, we can make sure that our democracy thrives.

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That's the goal.

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So stay informed, stay engaged, and keep fighting the good fight.

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Couldn't have said it better myself.

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Thanks for joining us on the deep dive.